Donald Trump BOOED At NBA Finals + Adam Silver's Response | Hour 2

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Donald Trump BOOED At NBA Finals + Adam Silver’s Response | Hour 2
Date: June 9, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Special Guest: Adam Pally

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Episode Overview

This lively episode centers on the intersection of sports, celebrity, and politics at the NBA Finals, following former President Donald Trump’s much-discussed appearance—and the accompanying cascade of boos—at Madison Square Garden. The crew dissects NBA Commissioner Adam Silver’s diplomatic response, Broadway pricing out “regular” celebrities, fan culture, and the blurred lines between sports, business, and social issues. Special guest Adam Pally (The Mindy Project, Happy Endings) joins in with Knicks heartbreak, comedic candor, and riffs on the state of fandom.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Knicks Finals Drama, Adam Pally’s Knicks Fandom

• Struggles and Optimism:

  • Adam Pally opens up about the Knicks' challenging Finals game. Despite feeling it was a "trap" due to Trump’s presence and team logistics, he hasn't lost confidence:

    "I kind of felt yesterday... it was a bit of a trap going in... I haven't lost any confidence." (02:36)

• Player Frustrations:

  • Pally expresses more frustration with Bridges’ inconsistency than with Karl-Anthony Towns, defending Towns’ skill despite recent letdowns:

    "I get frustrated with Bridges, like... the inconsistency is wild." (04:14)

Trump at Madison Square Garden

• Polarizing Presence and Avoidance:

  • Dan presses Adam and the crew for political commentary about Trump's appearance. Adam Pally semi-jokingly declines, wary of “smoke,” and ultimately blames “the chaos” on the Knicks’ loss.

    "I'd like to pass because I think everyone knows how I feel about it and I do blame the loss on the chaos." (03:49)

• Celebrity Row & Mega-Pricing:

  • Observations that “Celebrity Row” is now filled with hedge funders, not traditional celebrities.
  • $1 million tickets sold for charity draw both cynicism and acceptance from the panel.

    "You had like Turturro and Stiller... but I was kind of bummed that there weren’t more New York celebs... celebrities aren't uber rich anymore." (05:33)
    "Those were auctioned for charity for the Garden of Dreams, so I'll give those $1 million tickets a slide." (06:14)

Media, Spectacle, and the NBA Finals Atmosphere

• Street Fights—AI Meme or Real Fandom?

  • Adam jokingly refuses to believe viral post-game fights were real New York fans:

    "They took a bunch of Miami Heat fans and they put Knicks jerseys on them. I don't, I don't believe anything I see here. This is not my fans." (09:03)

• Spike Lee vs. Timothée Chalamet Fantasy Boxing

  • Adam humorously breaks down odds and New York grit—Chalamet wins on youth, but Lee has city legend status:

    "Timmy's long, lanky... people don't give Timmy enough. My guy’s from the city." (08:15)

Adam Silver’s Response to Trump’s Appearance

• Broadcast Coverage & Strategic Sanitizing

  • Detailed analysis of Adam Silver’s soundbite, his history with Trump, and narrative sanitization on the ABC broadcast.

    “He’s the most milquetoast commissioner in the history of sports.” — Greg Cody (29:32)
    “If that is indeed so... conspiring so that my broadcast mutes... in the name of sanitizing... is not what I want.” — Dan Le Batard (34:08)

  • The show contrasts press box sound (loud booing) with the broadcast (muted, shorter reaction):

    “Is what ABC and the league presented to us nicer than what was actually happening in the arena? And what I prefer is the truth.” — Dan Le Batard (34:08)

• Sports as "Community" vs. Reality of Power

  • Dan challenges the panel on whether commissioners should “sit out” social statements or show leadership:

    “I’m getting a little tired of people respecting the office when it’s being desecrated by the person who’s in the office.” (28:32)

• Who Does Silver Work For?

  • The show debates whether Silver should show independence or merely serve the NBA’s owners, especially with political tensions and racial dynamics at play:

    “He is the employee of 30 men... Not too many billionaires have a problem with that dude in office right now.” — David Jacoby (32:17, 33:01)

  • Dan: "You can... bully both partners and owners. You can. You’re allowed. But if all you want is to keep the job... not really leadership." (41:03)

Corporate “Social Responsibility” & Performative Activism

• Cynicism about Brands & Virtue-Signaling
  • David Jacoby and others mock brands for performative activism on hot-button issues like Pride Month or Black Lives Matter, noting swift pivots based on social winds:

    "Do I really think McDonald's gives a shit about Black History Month? No, they don't." (36:57)
    "They don’t care, ladies and gentlemen. They care about what makes their lives easier." — Jacoby, on corporations and political events (37:48)

Adam Pally on Extending His Life, Fandom, and Comedy

• Pivot to Wellness:

  • Adam shares the origins of his health podcast with John Gabrus, explaining his hard-living ways and desire for longevity:

    “I don't really want to die before, like too soon. I'd like to hold that off a little bit. And so my interests have changed...” (21:09)

  • On what he’s learned:

    "I've learned that I’m not healthy... But that’s OK... If you can just make one good choice a day, that will compound..." (21:58)

• Hilarious Knicks Devotion:

  • Dan revisits Pally's claim that he'd drink his own urine for a Knicks championship, escalating stakes with dark humor:

    "Yeah, I mean, I think I could get a cup down, a shot maybe..." (19:20)

  • Dan’s ultimate would-you-rather:

    “The Knicks win the championship or Donald Trump is no longer president.” (20:24)
    Adam: “I am having a heart attack. I think I'm having. I have to go to the hospital.” (20:45)

• Candid Career Reflections:

  • Pally discusses his infamous snowbound “Late Late Show” hosting stint and how he brings self-deprecating honesty to both TV and podcasting:

    “I only know one way to do it... which is the way I would do it.” (13:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Pally on Avoiding Political Smoke:

  • "Oh, I could do. Oh, Dan, I'm sorry. I could do anything I want." (03:43)

• On Broadcast Gamesmanship:

  • “There is something strategic about doing it during the anthem when people are less likely to boo.” — Dan (38:22)

• On Leadership vs. PR:

  • “You guys are saying he has to do the public relations. No, you don’t... Not if you’re a real leader.” — Dan (31:45)
  • “If all you want is to keep the job and keep the peace... not really leadership, Dan.” — Dan (41:03)

• On Brands & Activism:

  • “They're just like, let me lick my finger. Oh the wind's blowing this way. Oh yeah, yeah, that’s awful.” — Jacoby (36:57)

• Pally’s Knicks Martyrdom:

  • “I mean, I think I could get a cup down, a shot maybe... to secure a W. You'd want it chilled, right?” (19:20)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Adam Pally on Knicks loss and chaos of Trump’s presence: (02:36–03:49)
• Debate on whether to comment politically / “passing” on the Trump question: (03:13–04:08)
• Celebrity Row, ticket prices, NYC culture at MSG: (04:45–06:14)
• Broadcast/arena sound differences; ABC and MSG’s strategic handling: (38:22–39:41)
• Adam Silver’s response and Commissioner job critique: (28:04–34:08, 41:03–41:50)
• Corporate social responsibility & activism from brands: (36:05–38:00)
• Would-you-rather (Knicks title vs. Trump presidency): (20:24–20:45)
• Pally on health/wellness podcast and personal growth: (21:09–21:58)
• Candid talk about TV career and irreverent sports interviews: (13:19–15:41)

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Episode Flow and Tone

The episode is fast-witted, irreverent, and skeptical, blending sports despair with biting media criticism and acute pop-culture references. Adam Pally’s comic energy sets a bantering, frequently self-deprecating rhythm, while Dan Le Batard presses for true talk over PR-approved answers. There’s a consistent theme of questioning sanitized narratives—whether about celebrity, leadership, or broadcasting big moments—and poking fun at both personal and institutional foibles.

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For Further Listening

• Adam Pally’s podcast: Staying Alive with Adam Pally and John Gabrus (health/wellness from a comic’s POV)
• Previous “Local Hour” episodes for Miami- and sports-culture deep dives

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This summary covers the meaningful content and the unique flavor of the discussion, skipping ads, promos, and outros as instructed.

Transcript

[Adam Pally]

Lamine Yamal steps into McDonald's, looks left, sees Pulisic, looks right, sees Jimenez, gives

[Dan Le Batard]

a nod to Ronaldinho in the corner

[Adam Pally]

with a FIFA World cup meal. Ronaldinho sees son in the booth. Son finds Beckham going for extra Big Mac sauce. He's got Davies at the table just behind him. Davies going for his collectible cup.

[Mike Ryan]

A steal by Henry, who pulls his own collectible cup.

[Adam Pally]

Collect one of nine legendary cups with

[Mike Ryan]

a FIFA World cup meal.

[Adam Pally]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[David Jacoby]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Adam Pally]

This summer, serve up the Cookout classics, Heinz ketchup and Kraft singles. Every good burger needs a layer of

[Mike Ryan]

perfectly melty cheese and thick, rich ketchup.

[Dan Le Batard]

We all know it's not a cookout

[Adam Pally]

without Heinz and Kraft.

[Stugats]

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[Tony]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Karl Anthony Towns has not yet scored in the fourth quarter of the finals,

[Tony]

and he's your MVP. Please.

[Dan Le Batard]

Happy 87th birthday to Dick Vital.

[Stugats]

Happy birthday to him.

[Tony]

I don't care.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good luck. We mentioned that Adam Pally was going to be on with us. The Mindy Project, Happy Endings, the Sonic the Hedgehog series. He also does a podcast, Staying Alive with Adam Pali and John Gabris. It's about health and wellness, which is not something I associate with him. I don't associate health and wellness with Adam Pali because he lives. He lives hard. He has famously lived hard. Have you slept, Adam? Are you in bad shape? Because you're a Knicks fan and I imagine you went into last night with a certain feeling, and now you sort of feel the opposite of whatever that feeling was. How are you? Good to see you.

[Adam Pally]

It's good to see you too, Dan. I'm okay. I'm okay. I kind of felt yesterday, I think a lot of New Yorkers felt that it was a bit of a trap going in. Like, you know, things were. Were not leading up in our direction. You had the chaos of the President, you had the, the fact that our team was staying in the hotel and not their own houses. It was just a trap game to me and I haven't lost any confidence. There's some things I'd like to see go better, but I feel like we're in a good position.

[Dan Le Batard]

How did you feel about Trump being at the game?

[Mike Ryan]

Pass.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really?

[Adam Pally]

No, no, no. I just don't want any, any smoke. I mean, I think people probably know my political leaning.

[David Jacoby]

They got him.

[Tony]

That was quick.

[David Jacoby]

He knew it. He said I didn't drive. Dan, of course, had to press and wouldn't let it just slide. And now he's out. See? Happy.

[Dan Le Batard]

He can't pass on that question. You can't, you can't. You gotta have.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I could do. Oh, Dan, I'm sorry. I could do anything I want.

[David Jacoby]

Yeah. Huh.

[Tony]

Damn. You figured that out.

[Adam Pally]

I think we forgot about that. I mean, I could literally leave with a push of a button right now. Is that what that happened? Yeah, I, I'd like to pass because I think everyone knows how I feel about it and I do blame the loss on the chaos. And Carl Anthony Towns hasn't scored in the fourth quarter.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who is the Knick that you get most frustrated with? Is it Karl Anthony Towns or is it somebody else?

[Adam Pally]

It's not Carl. I think Carl gets. Carl's an amazing player. I mean like I feel like we. Any other era, any other per like person and he's, he's an all time Nick. I get for. I get frustrated with Bridges, like, and not because of the picks. It's just the inconsistency is wild and like, you know, like what happened, what happened to him last night between the two games? Like, you know what I mean? Like that, that, that can make you frustrated.

[Greg Cody]

Are there any celebrities at the game last night that you seen? You're like, I'm a much bigger fan than them. I deserve to be there.

[Adam Pally]

That's a great question. Thank you. Actually, I didn't recognize many celebrities last night and I think even the celebs were kind of priced out of the game. When you look at like who was on the front row, it was mostly like. Well like it's was mostly like the dads that are go to my kids school, private schools in New York. It's like hedge fund dudes and jewelry salesmen. You know, it's like I didn't really recognize a lot of the people in the crowd. I mean obviously you had like Turturro and Stiller and Timmy in the, in the. What Was that movie with a min. He Timmy looked like Despicable Me 3 last night.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, he looked like. He was just like Vector.

[Adam Pally]

He had the vector fit on. But yeah, like those guys I saw. But I was kind of bummed that there weren't more New York celebs that you would normally see at the game because obviously it was like bought up by like uber rich people. And unfortunately celebrities aren't uber rich anymore.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's funny because there were two tickets on Celebrity Row that were sold for $1 million. And the. To his point, the people who got it were Gibson, Dunn Crutcher LLP and the private equity firm Veritas Capital says sports more than Gibson Gun Crutcher llp.

[Adam Pally]

No, exactly. You know, the one thing that is good about those tickets, I will say just to defend my Knicks again, is that those were auctioned for charity for the Garden of Dreams. So I'll give those $1 million tickets a slide.

[Tony]

Anti charity.

[Ira Winderman]

Dan.

[David Jacoby]

Good job, Dan.

[Adam Pally]

But Dan is anti charity. He's told me that many times. Actually, he said that the. That he's also anti taxes, anti charity. Dan doesn't like to pay anybody anything. That's truth. He doesn't tip. He's. He. I had a long conversation with him about his philosophy on valets. He's like, well, their job is getting the car. Why do I have to give them extra money when they're like Dan, it's, it's. Anyway, what was the question?

[Dan Le Batard]

Gibson, Dunn Crutcher llp. You're not going to. I'm not anti charity. I'm anti Gibson, Dunn Crutcher LLP giving

[Tony]

$1 million to charity.

[Adam Pally]

No, I, again, like, I agree. I think that it kind of sucked the vibe last night and I think we'll, we'll have a return to it. I think I, you know, I miss the watch parties. I love the chaos of it. And like, I think, you know, last night was just set up. It was just like too much. And we'll see what happens in the next game. I don't think we can play the same way for that we did in the second half for a full, full game. I would be really surprised.

[Mike Ryan]

Adam, this is a potential halftime show, in my opinion. Who do you think would win a two round boxing match between Spike Lee and. And Timothy Shalam?

[Adam Pally]

Are we talk. Great, great question. I thought about this a lot. Thank you. Now are we talking what's the age? Is Spike his age now and now?

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, and still is, if that matters.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, spike is over seven.

[Mike Ryan]

It doesn't matter.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, but as is, you have to go. Timmy, I mean, he's 27 versus a 70 year old, I think. I think if Spike was, you know, mookie age, I think we'd have way more of a fight. But Timmy's long. Timmy's long, lanky. A little lanky. So I think he's a longer reach, maybe.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep.

[Adam Pally]

And also, Timmy grew up on, like, 40th street in Hell's Kitchen. Like, like, I think. I think people don't give Timmy enough. Like, he didn't just become a Kardashian. The dude was, like, dancing on the subway, you know, like, my guy's from the city.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to show you these fights here in the streets of New York after last night's game. Why?

[Adam Pally]

Why?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, because this is just getting.

[Adam Pally]

Why do you have to see this?

[Dan Le Batard]

This is just getting started. This is going to get a lot worse over the next few games.

[David Jacoby]

Kind of show we do here. Adam.

[Adam Pally]

No, it's not going to get worse. This is all frustration. I, I, I. First of all, this all seems staged to me. This all seems staged. Hold on.

[Quince Representative]

A cop's about to come in with an uppercut.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is not staged in any way.

[Adam Pally]

This seems A.I. this is A.I. this look like Miami fans.

[Mike Ryan]

Cops are watching the cops.

[Adam Pally]

This looks like an AI Thing. They took a bunch of Miami Heat fans and they put Knicks jerseys on them. I don't, I don't believe anything I see here. This is not my fans.

[David Jacoby]

You know how I know it's not AI because one guy's hitting another guy with a bus stop sign. And I don't think any artificial intelligence could figure out that a New Yorker would get the bus stop sign and use that as a weapon.

[Adam Pally]

That's how I know it's AI because the first thing a New Yorker would use is the barricade.

[Tony]

Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks? I know it. Well, it's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy. Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo walking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night. It has that effect on people. It does. You usually take the credit for it. But again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hootin and hollerin'. Keep it, Cuervo.

[Mike Ryan]

Keep it cuervo baby.

[Tony]

Summer always hits different once the big game starts stacking up. Now you've got finals games on every other night, baseball's rolling all week, racing on the weekends, and suddenly everybody's looking for an excuse to get together. The other night a buddy texted me, we've got the game on. Come through. I figured I'd stop by for maybe an hour. That was optimistic. Next thing you know, everybody's locked into the game and we're all part of the coaching staff. Somebody's yelling at the ref, somebody else is suddenly an expert on pitch strategy, and nobody's even pretending they're leaving early anymore. It's one of those nights where you take a sip of Miller Lite, look around and realize, yeah, this is exactly what summer is supposed to be. That's why Miller Lite is always part of these nights for me. It's clean, refreshing, easy to drink when it's hot outside, and perfect for long nights hanging with friends, watching games. An all American summer starts with an all American beer, Miller lite. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Surely every time you're watching this, you recognize that your wife is laughing, that she married. She married Larry David.

[Mike Ryan]

I do, yeah. One of the great characters in the history of television, in my humble opinion. And. And to my credit, my personality.

[Dan Le Batard]

In my humble opinion, followed by to my credit, amazing.

[Mike Ryan]

My personality.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just amazing.

[Mike Ryan]

Free date. Curb your enthusiasm.

[Dan Le Batard]

St. Oh, wow.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not going to say Larry David patterned himself.

[Dan Le Batard]

You copy. All right. Put it on the poll, please. Jude, you did Greg Cody copyright being an asshole long before Larry David.

[Adam Pally]

This is the Dan Lebatar show with the stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show in a New York riot is the first thing a rioter will use as a weapon. The barricade. Mike Ryan has been wanting to ask you a question for 11 years.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Adam, I'm a huge fan because I was introduced to you by your appearance on the Late Late show when you had an opportunity to fill in as guest host and there was a blizzard and it was the most captivating TV I had ever seen in my entire life. And I'm curious, I'm curious to get inside your mind a little bit because that was a huge opportunity. I imagine part of you was gunning for that job and the blizzard comes and ruins everything. What was the driving force behind the weirdness behind that show? Was that just you coping because your dream had been cast aside by the weather?

[Adam Pally]

That's a great question. Thank you so much. I thought about this a lot. I know, unfortunately, that show, they let me host the Late Late show and they gave me a crack at it. And I only similarly to anything I do in my career and my job is like, I only know one way to do it kind of, which is the way I would do it. And so I, I tried a little to like, conform to what a talk show would be. But even with like the blizzard, it was going to be that way even if there wasn't a blizzard, you know, because that's the way that I, I work and that's what I find funny. So it's, it's like six of one and half a dozen of the other because I truly don't know how to put anything out into the world that's not just like who I am.

[Tony]

That interview with Martellus Bennett is probably one of the greatest sports interviews ever made. Did you find your counterpoint in one. In another person there? Did you even know what you were getting into with Martellus?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, I knew Martellus Ben. I mean, I'm a football fan. You know, I like sports, and so I knew that he was.

[Stugats]

He's.

[Adam Pally]

He's really good on camera, and I knew that he had a sense of humor. Um, I. I think I pushed him a little too far when I asked. I think I asked him, like, second question, like, how big of a dick is Jay Cutler? And I think that that, like, threw him off probably because the answer is, like, huge.

[Dan Le Batard]

I imagine you're perpetually frustrated by sports coverage because of how irreverent you. You are, and you don't see a lot of it in situations like that. There's genuflecting before the Martellus Bennett's of the world.

[Adam Pally]

True, true. I mean, I. And I think that. I think that like, sometimes sports could serve. I mean, obviously we have to. We have to do the dance, you know, because there's integrity on the line and money on the line, and, like, you know, you want. You have to do the dance. But I think sometimes. I mean, look at what happens when the players ask the players questions, right? Like, sometimes. Like, did you see that Media day thing yesterday where Carl Anthony Towns was asked a question by, like, a rookie point guard on, like, the. The Bullets or something? Or the Bullets, the. The Wizards. And. And. And he answered like, he was, like, super honest and was basically like, you know, Jimmy. Like, f. Jimmy Butler, you know, and like, I'm gonna win a championship, and Jimmy Butler's not. Like, no one got that answer out of him except the other player asking the brunt, like, the question. I think sports could be served a little bit by people being like, you know, everyone says Jay Cutler is a huge, you know, not. Not great to. To be around. Is that true? Like, you know, and. And I mean, I'm bagging on Jay Cutler, you know, because he is awful. But I think that. That it could go for anybody. It could go for anybody.

[David Jacoby]

Adam, you had the opportunity to star in two different projects that are kind of foundational things. One is the Mandalorian, which is a Star wars thing. And you had one of the great scenes, you and Sudeikis. The other one was Mel Brooks, History of the World Part 2, which one of those things was more of a pinch me moment for you.

[Adam Pally]

Ooh. They were equal. I mean, I think. I think the being on this. Being in. I have almost staring at my Scout Trooper. No, my grogu that they sent me after. I keep him kind of in my window, but I dressed him up, and he's wearing a dog collar and a yarmulke. But I. I think Star wars was. Was just, you know, I mean. I mean. I mean, you're a huge Star wars head, right?

[David Jacoby]

I am.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I've listened to your POD and stuff. Like, you're like a enormous dork. Well, and that started. That is a compliment. You're a huge nerd.

[David Jacoby]

Okay.

[Adam Pally]

It's enormous compliment. I could never invest my time in something so fake. And I think that that's amazing that you do that.

[David Jacoby]

Definitely turning it to. Not a.

[Tony]

No.

[Adam Pally]

These are all compliments. And especially this huge NBA career and stuff. And yet you still have time to pour into something that has no meaning anyway. It's incredible. I'm really. It's impressive. Um, but, yeah, Star wars was cool. And.

[David Jacoby]

And.

[Adam Pally]

And also that was directed. That. That episode was directed by Taika Waititi, who's like, one of my best friends in the business and.

[David Jacoby]

And.

[Adam Pally]

And the funniest guy. So it really just felt like we were. Me and said because we're hanging out. Honest. Like, it didn't feel real until we saw it, you know?

[Tony]

Is that how you pronounce his name? You're friends with him?

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Tony]

I'm asking because it seems like you.

[Adam Pally]

You know, But I was. Wait, yeah. Or is that just a yeah? That's how I. I mean, you want to try it?

[Tony]

Nah, I think it's a tt, but titty works.

[Adam Pally]

Okay. Titty titty tasks.

[Dan Le Batard]

You told Ike Barinholtz on his podcast that you would do basically anything to have the Knicks win a championship, including, but not limited to drinking your own urine.

[Adam Pally]

Well, yeah, that's for.

[Quince Representative]

Pull.

[Adam Pally]

That a. Pull out of context, obviously. But, yeah, I would. I mean, the question was, like, what would you do for a Knicks championship? And. And. And. And I think. Yeah, I mean, I think I could get a cup down a shot maybe. I don't know if I could do like a camelback, but I could. I could get down a little to it to secure a W. You'd want it chilled, right?

[Mike Ryan]

You don't want it warm?

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I actually think you want a room temp.

[Mike Ryan]

Really? Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Or body temp. Whatever.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the pole. If you drink your own urine, do you want it to be cold on the rocks?

[Adam Pally]

You know, sometimes chilled whiskey, sometimes is

[Greg Cody]

gross warm or on the rock.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

An Old fashioned.

[Dan Le Batard]

What was taken out of context? What did I take out of context? You're saying I took something out of context? I didn't take anything out of context.

[Adam Pally]

Where's your producer? He's yelling at me. Danny's yelling at me. Is anyone going to step in?

[Dan Le Batard]

What did I take out of context?

[Adam Pally]

You said I'm being bullied. I'm being bullied live on air by the host.

[Dan Le Batard]

You said that you would drink your own urine for the Knicks to win a championship. That's how badly you want them to win a championship. Let me circle back around on the Trump question. You wouldn't answer. I give you one or the other, but you can only choose one or the other. The Knicks win the championship or Donald Trump is no longer president.

[Adam Pally]

I am having a heart attack. I think I'm having. I have to go to the hospital.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's the host of Staying Alive with Adam Pali and Don Gabris from Smartless Media. Why do you do that podcast? What made you decide to choose health and wellness as a topic in the comedy space? Not a lot of people are doing that one.

[Adam Pally]

You know, I think I've lived, I lived a hard life, as you said. I. Not a hard life, but like, you know, I like to get after it. And I have kids now and a family and I don't, I think like a lot of us, like, I don't really want to die before, like too soon. I'd like to hold that off a little bit. And so my interests have changed to kind of like things that I can do to prolong my life. And I've found out that a lot of people have feel that way. So it's, it was a natural way to start talking to friends of mine

[Dan Le Batard]

and you do it with one of your best friends, if not your best friend. What have you learned while doing it?

[Adam Pally]

I've learned that I am not healthy, that I was never healthy, that I don't know how to exercise or eat. And then I've also learned from working my best friend that that's okay. And I think a lot of people don't. And it's just about effort. Like, if you can just make one good choice a day, that will compound and soon it'll be two good choices and soon it'll be three good choices. And then pretty soon most of the choices you make during the day will be good.

[Dan Le Batard]

You should know, Adam, that Mike Ryan, back when we were at ESPN was dying to get you to come in and host the show with us. And for whatever reason ESPN never allowed it to happen. So your career has since blown up.

[Adam Pally]

That's so shocking.

[Dan Le Batard]

Your career has since blown up. But the invitation is open if you want to come down here at any point. I know you're in Miami sometimes, so.

[Adam Pally]

Oh, I love it. Miami. I would love to do that. Thank you so much.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good talking to you.

[Tony]

No, you heard Zaz.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, I don't think. I think he's sincere that you thought that was a. No. You thought that was a polite celebrity. You thought that.

[Adam Pally]

No, I was dead serious. And I will call you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, there you go. Thank you, Adam. Good talking to you. Staying Alive podcast, you should check it out because he's doing different things in the space. Why, Tony, are you staring at Zaz?

[Greg Cody]

He thinks that I am the one who has to leave my seat for Adam.

[Mike Ryan]

And that's not.

[Tony]

Come in, hang out with the boys. Zaz.

[Adam Pally]

Got to go.

[Tony]

It's a Greg Cody Tuesday.

[Adam Pally]

Obviously, Greg Cody's got to stay.

[David Jacoby]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you, Adam. Good talking to you.

[Adam Pally]

Thank you, guys. Later.

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[Dan Le Batard]

So this is happening around Giannis now, and I've been around the Heat organization long enough here in town to understand understand that some of the things that are happening that aren't being spoken about are interesting. So you've got Ira Winderman and Ethan Skolnick are both saying that the Heat usually will privately shut down trade rumors to reporters when they know they won't get the guy. That hasn't happened this time. And Bill Simmons says, I feel like there's going to be a big trade soon. He says Giannis is my guess it'll probably be after Game four, before Game five. Don't usually teams avoid doing that sort of stuff. Bad form during the finals.

[Tony]

That was when they had a real commish, though.

[David Jacoby]

David Stearns, America There was a embargo on any sort of transaction being consummated during the NBA Finals. They didn't want to take any of the attention away from the crown jewel of our season. However, Adam Silver is a much more lenient kind of commissioner. So who knows? Maybe Giannis gets traded to the spurs in the middle of those Finals.

[Greg Cody]

You think there's a single team that is worried what Adam Silver is going to think if they make the trade right now?

[Mike Ryan]

No, but if. If you're the Heat, let's say he's going to the Heat. If you're the Heat, why would you want to be overshadowed by the Finals? Why not wait a week and a half and get the entire spotlight to yourself?

[Greg Cody]

Oh, I don't think the Heat care about that. I think the Heat wouldn't they. If the team on the other end says, we're ready to make a deal, oh, let's do it. Why not? We want all the spotlight like they. They want. They just want to get the deal done.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, but if they think they're going to lose that deal in a week and a half. Yes.

[Greg Cody]

They don't risk it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me play for you some sound of Adam Silver last night talking about Donald Trump. I want to get the thoughts of the group on this, because this is a respect for the office that's not being shown by the person who's in the office. And so I'm getting a little tired of people respecting the office when it's being desecrated by the person who's in the office. But here's Adam Silver being public relations schmarmy.

[Ira Winderman]

I found out because Jim Dolan invited him to the game and he said yes, and he's welcome to be here. I think that what makes sports so special, special, when there's so much that divides people, is it's something that we have in common, and we should look for those things that we have in common and build off that. And I'll also say about President Trump. You know, I've been with the league for a long time. I ran NBA Entertainment years ago. He did an I Love Game spot with us. He was a fixture at NBA at Madison Square Garden. You guys remember, all of you when you played here. Not Draymond, but back in the old days, he had courtside seats. He was here all the time. He was at draft. So he's a genuine Knicks fan. And so, yes, there's some inconvenience to the fans here. But one looking around this arena, it's packed. So people listen, they came early, they got through whatever extra security which is necessary. So as I said, I think we should be using sports to create more of a sense of community with people.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, he's just, he's the most milquetoast commissioner in the history of sports.

[Mike Ryan]

But, but, but what's he supposed to do, right? He's not going to intentionally be polarizing. He has to be conciliatory. He has to say exactly what he said, just for public relations purposes.

[David Jacoby]

I think he was fine up until the part, you know, where he says, look, sports is supposed to connect and it's supposed to bring people together. I thought that was all right out of the playbook. When he starts reading the bona fides of Donald Trump as a Knick fan, I'm like, okay, you don't have to like politics.

[Greg Cody]

He's a genuine fan. You think Trump can name more than one Knick?

[David Jacoby]

I know he knows Jalen Brunson.

[Greg Cody]

Genuine fan.

[David Jacoby]

But the thing is, so I had two friends, I had my cousin and one of my best friends was at the game last night.

[Tony]

There's the gay one.

[David Jacoby]

They both took the subway in. The subway takes you to Penn Station. They were instructed to leave Penn Station. In order to get in, they had to walk from basically 34th street all the way down at 6th Avenue, right by Macy's Herald Square, then down a block and that's where the line to get into Madison Square Garden started. Two and a half hours before game

[Greg Cody]

time, there were horror stories about people. We had to go walk here and then they told us to go here and they told us to go here and then they told us, we have no idea where you're supposed to go.

[David Jacoby]

It was not a great situation. And like I said, this was hours before game time. Having said that, my expectation was when we were gonna start at 8:30pm the broadcast, I thought that lower bowl was gonna be half empty. It was packed. Everybody got the message and they got in there one way or another. Cuz everyone knew it's gonna be a zoo.

[Tony]

Dan always points out who Adam Silver actually works for. So he has to be political in that sense. I also thought he did a little bit extra. But another thing that was hanging over this was these finals were airing on abc. We all know what's going on between this admin network. I thought the network went out of its way to not really show Donald Trump what happened on the broadcaster. And the national anthem was muted compared to some of the videos that we saw inside the arena. So I do think that ABC was trying to not make additional waves here in Adam Silver as a Broadcast partner, I think, respected that some, too.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to ask you guys some questions, though, about the time that we're in and go, you know, rewind five years to the pandemic when the NBA wasn't sitting this out politely, and you guys are saying that he has to do this. And I'm like, not if you're a real leader. No, not really. You don't have to do that. You don't. You guys are saying he has to do the public relations. No, you don't. He's the leader of the league. And maybe if you're afraid of your owners and your partners, but David Stern wasn't afraid of his owners and his partners. He was not.

[David Jacoby]

But then, as you pointed out, he's not the leader. He is the employee of 30 men who get together and someone.

[Greg Cody]

So with Stern.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[David Jacoby]

But no, Stern was the leader.

[Tony]

I know different types. We don't know how Stern would have reacted in these times. We don't have that evidence because there's

[David Jacoby]

a lot of stuff that, again, Donald Sterling was an NBA owner who was despicable both publicly and privately, and David Stern covered for him the entirety of the time. So every time we do this, and I'm guilty of it a lot, I always say, Stern wouldn't have done this, and Stern wouldn't let that happen. But there's some stuff that Stern did with this regard, like to things that should be universally morally objectionable that he didn't have a problem with, or if he did, he put his feelings secondary to whatever the business move was. What Adam Silver did there last night, as we could all sit here and be like, I can't believe he did this. Whatever. At the end of the day, that is a business move. And it's a business move not just based on the entirety of the league and their operations, but again, of the 30 individuals who he must report to. Here's a dirty secret, folks. Not too many billionaires have a problem with that dude in office right now. Quite the opposite. They're all trying to figure out how they can cozy up to make their business lives even more flourishing.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, to Dan's point, though, it is entirely accurate to say that during the pandemic, Donald Trump was openly outspoken against NBA players who were rallying against police, involved shootings who were. And he was against the Black Lives Matter shirts on the court, and he was against all that stuff. And he said at the time that. That the activism of the NBA players is going to result in the deterioration of support for the NBA. And so the idea that five years later he's coming off as a big NBA fan is a little bit weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

So I want to just examine a couple of things that you said here. Because he works for the owners, but he also kind of works for the players. And the divide here is such that Mike Ryan is saying something as possible. Fact that I'm like, wait a minute. That's not palatable to me, the networks and the commissioner. If that is indeed so what you're saying, conspiring so that my broadcast mutes what is the real feeling in that arena in the name of sanitizing the whole thing for my consumption in a way that's different from accurate is not what I want. I don't want a conspiring between television partners and leagues to give me a distortion of the truth that is less honest than what it is that you got if you were in the arena. Because if what you're saying is true, you're telling me, and I don't know that that's true, you're telling me that what ABC and the league presented to us was nicer than what was actually happening in the arena. And what I prefer is the truth.

[David Jacoby]

Dan, this ties into our conversation yesterday about, you know, Paramount and Skydance and the purchasing of things and the idea that as. As power is consolidated. And when I say power, I mean the power of broadcast is consolidated because these people are trying to appeal to a government that has made it very clear it's pay for play. You do something for me, I do something for you. You do something that hurts me or makes my life uncomfortable, I make your life uncomfortable. And it is corrupt, and it's wrong, and it is anti American, anti antitrust, all that stuff. But we allowed this as a society because people were worried about, oh, there might be a boy playing with girls in a high school game. That's what people decided the election was gonna be about. I'm sorry to say. America, you reap what you sow.

[Tony]

Yeah, I don't think you should hold the corporations to a higher standard than the office itself. But what Amin said is absolutely right. It's pay for play. And you have a. A very vengeful president at the time. But I'd say for us, we gotta hold people accountable when they blow, when the wind blows them into another direction. After January 6th, I believe coca Cola issued a statement demonizing what had happened. And then you cut to a few years later, and they're helping install a Diet Coke machine inside the Oval Office. That's how capitalism works. You Appease the power in place. And this president loves the power. And I think you and everyone else just needs to keep record of it and speak with your vote, speak with your dollars.

[David Jacoby]

Yeah, Mike, you're right. Because at the end of the day,

[Dan Le Batard]

an echo chamber, I don't.

[David Jacoby]

I wonder, like right now, June is Pride month. You got all these brands say, oh, happy Pride Month. In February, it's Black History Month. You go, do I really think McDonald's gives a shit about Black History Month? No, they don't. Right. In the same way that when George Floyd happened and everyone posted a black square, did I think that all these corporations actually felt bad and went, no. They're just like, let me lick my finger. Oh, the wind's blowing this way. Oh yeah, yeah, that's awful. And then the moment they got the vibe that like the winds are shifting, right? So January 6th. Oh, that's awful. But as the vibe shifted, and we know the vibe shifted, cuz the man won another election. The man won another election. At that point it's like, well, this is out the way. Think about your guy Jeff Bezos, right? He bought the Washington Post. Democracy dies in darkness. That's what they had on their thing. They were so anti Trump. And he was like, hey, I'm not gonna do anything editorial. I'm just here to finance to make sure the free press exists. The moment the dude won the election, he was like, I tried. They're not, they don't care, ladies and gentlemen. They care about what makes their lives easier.

[Mike Ryan]

In that moment, I will say, as a consumer who's not a Trump fan, I was satisfied by what ABC did. I thought they, they aired seven or ten seconds of pretty loud booing while showing Trump. I thought that was sufficient without laboring it. The alternative is if that broadcast is on Fox, I don't think we get even that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, well let's, let's play then. You show me and let me hear the sound from the ABC broadcast last night and we will compare it to press box sound. Here is the SOU from the broadcast. So there is something strategic about doing it during the anthem when people are less likely to boo. But let's hear now from the press box and see if it's the same.

[David Jacoby]

Okay, so there is a logical non political explanation to this, which is because the broadcast is trying to highlight the guy singing the national anthem. We're gonna make sure his mic is clear and we're gonna mute everything else in the background. It's the same reason why when Mike Breen and Richard Jefferson and Legs say they couldn't hear the whistle. They didn't even know that a foul had been called. But their voices sounded so clear because they've muted out how loud the audience is.

[Tony]

Yeah, I think that's probably what happened there. But it is strategic to show them during the national anthem. The national championship game did the very same thing. I did not see the national championship game broadcast. I was there. But in the stadium, they only showed him once after the national anthem. And you would have a smattering there. And that was a crowd that was far more favorable to the president being there. But also, I think as a director, knowing everything that I had to navigate and knowing what my audience is, even though my motivations would be, no, let's show them there and make sure that there's crowd shots. MSG was probably trying to avoid that too, so we can get that reaction. But people watching at home don't want to see him. Even if they support him, they don't want to see him.

[Greg Cody]

I disagree there. I think it was a major storyline going into watching the game is what the reaction is to the president's gonna be.

[Tony]

I appreciate you disagreeing. Seen the numbers. People just wanna watch the game. And showing that guy on screen elicits an emotion. Could be positive, could be negative, could certainly be polarizing within people's homes. And there is probably a directive like, let's try to limit our exposure here and keep our audience happy.

[Mike Ryan]

And part of what you say is why I think ABC played it right. Maybe that's unpopular. I think airing 7, 10 seconds of loud booing was sufficient. I thought it was spot on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's talk about leadership for a second, though, because it has been fairly startling to see Adam Silver replace David Stern, who did not work for the owners. This. Obviously, John Skipper says he has never been cursed out the way that he was cursed out by David Stern when he was the head of ESPN and a partner with David Stern. Because when you're in that position of power, you can, if you choose to use it, bully both partners and owners. You can. You're allowed. But if all you want is to keep the job and keep the peace, if that's all you want. Not really leadership, Dan.

[David Jacoby]

It is leadership in other areas. Like I.

[Tony]

Again, it's leadership that Dan disagrees with, but it is a way of leading.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I just don't think it's how he actually feels. I don't think that if you ask him for his honest opinions on what he thinks about the president being there, that that's what he would say.

[Tony]

Dan, you don't do everything that you feel because you run a company and you have to act in the best interests of the company oftentimes. And I think that's also leadership. Sometimes it's not just sacrificing other people. It's sacrificing your own convictions and beliefs for the greater good.

[David Jacoby]

But.

[Dan Le Batard]

But best for the company here is a little hard when the owners are white and the players are black and they're all part of the same company.

[Tony]

Yes. I don't even think it's a little hard. I think it's a lot hard.

[David Jacoby]

I would say it's actually not as hard as you would imagine, because again, while the players might also have their own personal feelings about certain things, they kind of care about getting paid a little bit more than that. And sometimes it's like, hey, I don't like it, but this is the way the world is. Is that again, I gotta go back to this because David Stern himself has said there were times where we did things that were contrary to my personal belief, but I felt like this was the best decision in the moment.

[Tony]

Donald Trump said something that helped the league. He was asked specifically about the ticket pricing on Air Force One. He was asked, isn't that a little too expensive for a ticket? You know what he said? He's like, well, that's the way that life is, and you can watch it semi kind of free on tv. That's great. If I'm the NBA, we keep ticket revenues up and you just put over our broadcast partnership. Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

The other thing is, if I'm a player, I can be as outspoken as I want to be or not. I don't need my commissioner to be my mouthpiece. I don't need Adam Silver to speak for me. If I want to come out strong against Trump, I'm going to do it.

[David Jacoby]

Guys, I've been waiting this whole time. Here it is. It's happening. I've been keeping track of this all day long. When is Stephen A. Smith gonna address Donald Trump? Didn't look like they did, guys. They just come back from break right now. They're showing the Trump clip right now.

[Greg Cody]

Block A, hour two.

[David Jacoby]

Oh, my God, guys, we've only got 50 some odd seconds left in our show, but I'm gonna try and do the Stephen A. Smith thing right now. As I'm looking at the screen, we've

[Dan Le Batard]

got another hour after these 50.

[Adam Pally]

What?

[Tony]

He's standing at a podium front of an American flag.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ah, he likes that. The president had something to say about

[Mike Ryan]

loves it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know what's happened to our business man.

[Tony]

I think I'm gonna go with him

[Dan Le Batard]

all right you guys are all gonna just go leave to go watch first take you're all gonna just leave me here?

[Tony]

Sickening that's that's disrespectful. I'll pull it up on YouTube.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're altogether you're all just gonna leave you're gonna go leave to go watch first take Stephen a. Smith in front of an American flag You can't reason with the sun.

[Adam Pally]

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[Mike Ryan]

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