Felix Rosenqvist: The First Bearded Indy 500 Winner | Hour 2

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2 — Felix Rosenqvist: The First Bearded Indy 500 Winner

Date: May 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode, recorded live from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, blends classic Le Batard banter with a special guest: Felix Rosenqvist, fresh off his historic, record-close win at the Indy 500. The first bearded winner in the event’s 110-year history, Felix joins Dan, Stugotz, Greg Cote, Chris Cote, and the crew for raucous discussions about quirky hygiene habits, the culture of winning, and what life is like in the immediate aftermath of a career-defining victory. The group also debates the meaning of winning and sacrifice in the careers of stars like LeBron James, with signature irreverence and wit.

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Toothpaste Debates & Quirky Hygiene Habits

[01:56–08:00]

• Bryce Harper’s Toothpaste Technique: Chris Cote revisits a previous topic—Bryce Harper’s habit of squeezing toothpaste directly into his mouth instead of onto a toothbrush. This spurs a larger conversation about personal hygiene boundaries in relationships.
• Toothbrush Boundaries: The group teases out whether it’s gross to share a toothbrush or if separate toothpaste tubes for couples are necessary.
  • Chris Cote: "I'm not saying her teeth or any part of her is gross, but my mouth is gross..." [03:26]
  • Greg Cody: "Would sooner brush my teeth with my forefinger, which I have done, than use my wife's toothbrush." [05:11]
  • Stugotz: Shares that he and his wife have separate toothpaste tubes, sparking confusion among the group.
• Swimming Pool Hygiene: Greg Cody admits to shampooing his hair in the pool and brushing his teeth with his finger in a pinch, which draws strong reactions.
  • Chris Cote: "Why don't you just bathe in bleach then?" [06:36]
  • Greg Cody: "That seems dangerous. Dan, are you suggesting people do that?" [06:40]
• Chlorine vs. Saltwater Pools: A debate breaks out over which is superior, with Greg preferring chlorine and the others noting the saltwater pool trend.
  • Greg Cody: "If I want a saltwater pool, I'll go to the ocean..." [07:14]

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Felix Rosenqvist Joins: Green Flags, Red Flags

[07:33–11:15]

• Felix’s Fresh Take on Hygiene: Felix is quickly thrown into the mix, quizzed on all the hygiene topics just discussed, now couched in a racing “flag” metaphor.
  • On Shampooing in the Pool:
    • Felix: “That’s probably a red flag to me.” [08:07]
  • On Peeing in the Pool:
    • Felix: “Gotta say green flag on that one... I’m guilty of that one, I think.” [08:24]
  • On Squeezing Toothpaste Into Mouth:
    • Felix: “Green flag, baby... I think I’ve been guilty of that, because sometimes, you just need, like, toothpaste in your mouth, but you don’t need a toothbrush.” [08:41]
  • On Sharing a Toothbrush with a Partner:
    • Felix: “I think it’s a green flag. You know, it’s family on that toothbrush.” [09:27]
  • On Letting Tap Water Run While Brushing: Guilty. “Red flag for my significant other.” [09:36]
• Witty Flag Play: The group keeps the “flag” theme going, riffing on race terminology for hygiene habits.
• Potty Routine Questions: Dan asks Felix whether he sits or stands when urinating or wiping; Felix gamely answers, revealing a mix of both depending on context.
  • Felix: “At night? I sit.” [09:59]
• Felix’s Discovery About Himself:
  • "Yesterday I learned I’m the first bearded Indy 500 winner ever in 110 years. ... This fact beaten." [11:03]

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Felix’s Indy 500 Win: Emotions, Swag & Swedish Pride

[11:19–18:29]

• Winning the Closest Indy 500 Ever: Felix describes the surreal aftermath of his photo-finish victory by just 0.0233 seconds.
  • Felix: “I saw people on the grandstand celebrating. ... For a split second, I was like, you probably should confirm.” [11:31]
• Messages from Sweden’s Royalty: Felix is awash in congratulations, including a telegram (both a letter and a PDF) from the King and Queen of Sweden.
  • Felix: “It's a mix of the future and the past.” [12:49]
• Swag & Sudden Celebrity: Felix talks about the barrage of gifts and “servants” that now accompany him.
  • Felix: “Apparently I have like servants, and people carry my water bottles and give me coffee and wake me up in the morning.” [17:26]
• Swedish Sports Community: He’s yet to process all the congratulatory messages from athlete peers, but notes former Swedish Indy 500 winners have already reached out.

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The Physical and Mental Toll of Racing

[19:41–20:39]

• Greg Cody & Chris Cote Prompt for Details: The group explores how physically (and mentally) punishing the Indy 500 is.
  • Felix: “It’s probably the sport where it looks the easiest, but it's the most difficult.” [19:59]
  • Discusses being in the car for four hours, drinking hot water, and how the “mental aspect is actually bigger than the physical one.”
• Winning an Oval for the First Time:
  • Felix: “Ovals are ... fast, they're dangerous, but ... also more rewarding when you win.” [21:21]
  • His first oval race was Indy in 2019: “I was completely terrified, by the way. ... But I kind of learned how to become [a lunatic].”

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Indy 500 Payout, What’s Next, and “Pool Guy” Dreams

[22:07–22:40]

• Prizes & Practicality:
  • Felix: “I won a 1A Corvette. I won $4.3 million.” [12:06]
  • Plans to finally hire a pool guy and buy his sister a snowmobile.
• Greg Cody: On Chlorine as a Cleansing Agent
  • Still stands by his theory that pool chlorine is “good for the hair.” [24:06]
  • Cites a meteorologist as his source—met with group incredulity.

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Shifting Gears: NBA, LeBron James, and Sacrifices for Winning

[29:01–39:01]

• LeBron’s Salary Demands & Legacy:
  • Discussion pivots to LeBron James refusing to take a discount to help his team sign more talent.
  • Chris Cote: “LeBron James, every season that he has played has been underpaid because there’s a salary cap.” [29:01]
  • Stugotz: “You can’t also say winning’s most important ... if you’re not willing to take a pay cut.” [30:30]
  • Greg Cody: “At this point in his life, how rich is he? ... The difference between making $55 million a year and $48 million ... is nothing.” [30:42]
  • Chris Cote lays out the financial and brand-building advantages LeBron has, arguing the case for taking less.
• Examples from Other Sports:
  • Tom Brady’s repeated pay cuts
  • The Miami “Big Three” era
• LeBron’s Change in Approach:
  • “When he got to Miami, he expected ... certain perks ... and didn’t get any of those things. So immediately thereafter ... ‘not ever [taking less] again.’” [38:01]
  • Greg Cody suggests people (like LeBron) can change with age, but Chris Cote pushes back.
• Agency and Side Business:
  • Discussion about LeBron’s agency, Klutch Sports, and its revenue: “Represents 94 NBA players ... about 5% of contracts.” [33:45]
  • Also touches on LeBron’s content business and losses in that venture.
• Knicks/Jalen Brunson/Becky Hammond Sound-Off:
  • Controversy revisited about Becky Hammond’s opinions on guard-led NBA champions, with crew debate on whether smaller guards can be a team's main championship piece, citing historic outliers like Steph Curry and Isaiah Thomas.

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Notable Quotes

• Felix Rosenqvist on surreal celebrity:
  “It’s so weird, man. ... I’m like not a very extravagant guy. But now apparently I have like servants and people carry my water bottles and give me coffee and wake me up in the morning.” [17:26]
• Felix on being the first bearded winner:
  “Yesterday I learned I’m the first bearded Indy 500 winner ever in 110 years. And that was the most shocking fact of my life. This fact beaten.” [11:03]
• Felix on racing ovals:
  “My first oval race was the Indy 500 2019. And I was, like, completely terrified by the way. ... But I kind of learned ... to not let my fear distract me.” [21:19]
• Chris Cote on LeBron’s worth:
  “LeBron James, every season that he has played has been underpaid because there’s a salary cap.” [29:01]
• Greg Cody on toothpaste:
  “Would sooner brush my teeth with my forefinger, which I have done, than use my wife’s toothbrush.” [05:11]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:56] – Hygiene habits and toothpaste debate
• [07:33] – Felix Rosenqvist joins, “flag” game on hygiene topics
• [11:19] – Felix on the emotions of his Indy 500 win
• [12:06] – Felix recounts getting messages from Swedish royalty
• [17:26] – Felix describes his new lifestyle and “servants”
• [19:59] – The physical/mental toll of racing
• [21:19] – Felix on the challenge of winning ovals vs. road courses
• [22:07] – Felix’s plans for his prize money
• [29:01] – The LeBron salary debate begins
• [33:40] – Discussion of LeBron’s agency, side businesses, and Big Three approach
• [37:08] – The Miami pay cut “wink-wink” deals and LeBron’s changed stance
• [38:45] – Greg Cody’s generational argument about sacrifices for winning

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Tone and Flow

The episode is a quintessential Le Batard Show romp: irreverent, rapid-fire, full of sidebars, unlikely debates, and a blend of genuine sports insight with comedic tangents. Felix Rosenqvist fits right in, gamely tackling awkward and amusing topics before offering generous insight into the life of a newly minted sports hero.

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Memorable Moments

• The roundtable’s escalating disgust and hilarity over Greg Cody’s swimming pool “shower” practices (shampooing in the deep end)
• Felix’s playful willingness to weigh in on every “flag” question, siding with peeing in the pool but stopping short at pool-side shampooing
• The reveal that after 110 years, he’s the first bearded Indy 500 winner, and that getting a “telegram” from the King and Queen of Sweden was up there with his prize money
• The meta discussion about changing American sports myths (small guard can’t lead an NBA team to a title?) and how social media “remember when you said...” dynamics play out in modern discourse.

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For fans and newcomers alike, the episode is both a window into the peculiar world of star athletes just after a breakthrough, and a showcase for the show's relentless, joyful, and unorthodox approach to sports talk.

Transcript

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[Chris Cote]

The winner of last weekend's Indy 500 is going to join us here. In moments, Felix Rosenquist is going to be with us. The closest Indy 500 ever. He won it by 0.0233 seconds. Heartbreak for the second place finisher. I want to before we get to that though, go back to yesterday's conversation about the weird way that Bryce Har brushes his teeth. Greg Cody, I don't know if you have seen this or not, but this is how Bryce Harper brushes his teeth. He puts the toothpaste in his mouth first. He does not put it on his toothbrush. He just squeezes minty fresh into his mouth from the bottom of the tube and then starts with the brushing. It seems unpleasant and it got us into a conversation about how couples brush their teeth. I think the angriest or close to the angries that Valerie has ever been with me is one time I did not Like, I was bothered by the fact that my toothbrush was used. And I'm like, I don't like that. I like my toothbrush to be my toothbrush. I'm not sharing. I don't want to be sharing.

[Stugotz]

And she was mad because that means, like, you're saying she's gross.

[Chris Cote]

Well, I'm not saying it's gross. I'm saying I don't want my toothbrush in any other human being's mouth, not anybody's. I want my toothbrush to be only my toothbrush.

[Dan LeBatard]

You could be saying he's gross. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Want that for Valerie?

[Chris Cote]

I would never say that about my beloved angel. I'm not saying her teeth or any part of her is growth, but my. My mouth is growth. Did you hear me last segment? My tone was bad and it came out of a stinky mouth. How do you guys. How do you guys do this with your significant others?

[Stugotz]

The guys this morning thought that I was weird, that I have my own. I think Trista was offended, maybe as a woman, I don't know, but that.

[Female Contributor]

Why did you give it that marbley sound?

[Stugotz]

Well, because maybe it's. Maybe it's a couple's thing, you know, like if you were with someone and. Anyway, whatever, focus on the wrong thing here. Trisa, especially was offended that I have my own toothpaste. My wife has her own. I have my own. What's the problem here?

[Female Contributor]

What is the point of that, Zagak?

[Stugotz]

Well, I, I. When I'm brushing my teeth, why do I have to go over. We have two sinks. Why do I have to go over to her sink and, like, fiddle around and find the tooth?

[Producer or Announcer]

You just put the toothpaste in the middle between two sinks.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, is it the same brand?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Producer or Announcer]

That's weird.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's where it gets a little weirder. I'm in a similar situation. Sinks are far apart, not even connected. They're. They're both on their own island bathroom.

[Stugotz]

Huh.

[Dan LeBatard]

I have a different. I have a different toothpaste preference.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I do, too.

[Dan LeBatard]

So I have my own.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I think she. She.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think.

[Stugotz]

Look, my wife very clearly likes us having completely separate stuff when it comes to the bedrooms. I think that's what it's about.

[Female Contributor]

Girlfriends.

[Greg Cody]

You have to have different toothbrushes. Come on. What do you.

[Producer or Announcer]

Well, yeah, that we're saying toothpaste.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, Toothpaste.

[Producer or Announcer]

Everyone has different toothbrushes.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, well, not. Apparently not everybody, because, you know, Dan's using.

[Chris Cote]

No, this was something that happened one time and it never happened again.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, toothbrushes cost like three bucks. Go buy your own shitty toothbrush. Would sooner brush my teeth with my forefinger, which I have done, than use my wife's toothbrush. And it's nothing against her.

[Chris Cote]

That's not brushing your teeth, doing it with your forefinger.

[Stugotz]

I mean, that was a move when you were like eight.

[Producer or Announcer]

When have you done that? You said, I've done that occasionally.

[Greg Cody]

You know, I'm on a one night trip, I'll forget to pack a toothbrush. I don't want to go buy a toothbrush.

[Stugotz]

You call downstairs, they'll bring one up to you.

[Chris Cote]

I'm the kind of guy that does that.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, you go like this. It's done.

[Chris Cote]

I also shampoo my hair in a swimming pool.

[Greg Cody]

I may have invented the.

[Chris Cote]

That's not brushing your teeth, it's dirtying your finger.

[Greg Cody]

No, it isn't, girl.

[Producer or Announcer]

My family was over my dad's house for Memorial Day in the pool. And my wife and my.

[Stugotz]

Also known as Greg's shower.

[Producer or Announcer]

My wife, my daughter and my sister in law all learned of that fact in the pool. And they were like, just mortified at the idea. They're like, wait, you bring shampoo in here? And he was just like, yeah. Sometimes he got really embarrassed.

[Greg Cody]

I do it on the deep end.

[Stugotz]

Does that have to do with. It definitely stays on that side.

[Producer or Announcer]

It has nothing to do with.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. The pool guy. Oh, it's the poor. Send a gigantic jug of chlorine once a week. What is that? Chlorine?

[Stugotz]

You're still doing a chlorine pool?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

The chlorine damages your hair, neutralizing the shampoo.

[Greg Cody]

No, I don't look at it that way. It's in and out.

[Chris Cote]

Why don't you just bathe and bleach that? Why don't you just do that?

[Greg Cody]

That seems dangerous. Dan, are you suggesting people do that?

[Chris Cote]

I'm telling you that what laboratory suggests

[Greg Cody]

people bathe in bleach.

[Chris Cote]

I think that chlorine, once you get out of the pool covered in chlorine, you're not clean, you're just covered in chlorine.

[Greg Cody]

Anybody who goes in the pool then is, quote, unquote, covered in.

[Stugotz]

Most people have saltwater pools.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like.

[Stugotz]

Like I do.

[Chris Cote]

No, I don't think that's most.

[Producer or Announcer]

No, I think saltwater pools are becoming a thing. I don't know if it's more popular, but it is a trend.

[Dan LeBatard]

Most people, though.

[Producer or Announcer]

I don't know if it's most people.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's evening out a little.

[Producer or Announcer]

It's Rich people.

[Dan LeBatard]

Honestly, I think it's still more chlorine pools.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah. I'd much rather have a chlorine pool. I don't want to go to the. If I want a saltwater pool, I'll go to the ocean to try to please.

[Chris Cote]

Or in the shallow end.

[Greg Cody]

You got to do it the deep end, though. See, it would be rude to wash your hair in the shallow end, of course, because that's where most people hang out.

[Chris Cote]

So I. I've been watching the Indy 500 champion listening to this, and I think he's mortified. So let's just include him. Part of these conversations that we're having. He just won the closest Indy 500 ever. Felix Rosenquist is with us. Yes. Welcome to him. So first question, a normal question. Thank you for being on with us. What do you think about somebody who shampoos in their swimming pool?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

That's the. That's the funniest question I've had since I came to New York.

[Greg Cody]

You're welcome.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I don't think that's a. That's probably a red flag to me.

[Producer or Announcer]

Not a yellow flag?

[Chris Cote]

No, it's a red flag.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Checkered flag, maybe? Yeah, yellow flag. Okay.

[Greg Cody]

That's more like it. Thank you. Okay.

[Chris Cote]

How do you feel about somebody who pees in the pool?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Gotta say green flag on that one.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. You made a good game.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I'm guilty. I'm guilty of that one, I think.

[Chris Cote]

All right.

[Stugotz]

Caution.

[Dan LeBatard]

Red flag. Checkered flag. I. I like the whole thing. How about squeezing a toothpaste tube directly into your mouth and then brushing.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Green flag, baby. Oh, wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wait, do you do that? I know green flag means you're okay with it, but do you do that?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Whoa, we found a second.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I think I've been guilty of that, because sometimes, you know, when you don't, you just want to freshen up, and you just do. You just need, like, toothpaste in your mouth, but you don't need a toothbrush. So you take a little. Basically what you said, and then a little gulp of water, and you, like, flush it out. So. Yeah.

[Producer or Announcer]

Homemade mouthwash.

[Chris Cote]

All right.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Your significant other mouthwash.

[Chris Cote]

Which flag is your significant other using your toothbrush?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

What flag? She considers my toothbrush.

[Chris Cote]

No, no, no. If I tell you your significant other wants to use your toothbrush, what kind of flag do you give that? Green flag, yellow flag or red flag?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I think it's a green flag. You know, it's family. It's family on that toothbrush.

[Dan LeBatard]

Letting the water run the entire time. You're Brushing your teeth?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Yeah, I do that all the time.

[Greg Cody]

Really?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

And it's a red flag for my significant other. He thinks about that water bill.

[Dan LeBatard]

If you splash the mirror while you're brushing your teeth, do you. Do you immediately clean it?

[Stugotz]

No. Never.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Yes, I do. That's. It becomes kind of an annoyance over time.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, I like how thoughtful you are. Now say with me, this is gonna take a turn. Do you stand or sit?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Oh, no, gotta stay at night. I sit.

[Female Contributor]

That's. That's a man that wants a long term relationship. You can't have extra dribble around the floor.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I mean, well, I'm a very

[Felix Rosenqvist]

clean guy, so I. I'm just not going to take the guests at night, bro. I don't want to turn on the light.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, well, actually, I got a

[Felix Rosenqvist]

better day standing at night. Sitting.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, how about. All right, when we're going in for the, you know, pit stop, number two going deep, and it's time to wipe. Standing or sitting?

[Producer or Announcer]

Wait, wiping.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Number two, people does stand.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. This is a reaction that we always get. Yes. It's actually like a 50, 50 split. But the sitters cannot imagine a world in which people stand.

[Producer or Announcer]

Don't knock it till you tried it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, and I'm sorry for all of

[Felix Rosenqvist]

this, by the way. Wait, so there's a 50, 50 split?

[Dan LeBatard]

It's pretty close.

[Chris Cote]

I don't think it's 50. 50.

[Producer or Announcer]

You don't have to do a split. You can just stand up and then just.

[Chris Cote]

I don't think. I don't think it's a 50, 50 split. But you're shocked. Learned that there are people who wipe standing up.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

So yesterday I learned that I'm the first bearded Indy 500 winner ever in 110 years. And that was the most shocking fact of my life. This. This fact beaten.

[Greg Cody]

That one must fill you with pride.

[Dan LeBatard]

How about that?

[Chris Cote]

All right, let's talk to him about why he's here again. The closest Indy 500 race ever. 0.0233 seconds. Did you know you'd won?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Yeah, I was pretty sure I'd want it, but I had to kind of double check. You know, I saw people on the grandstand celebrating. It's like half a million people there, by the way. It's absolutely nuts. But for a split second, I was like, you probably should confirm. And then I heard my team radio, and it was like absolute roar. And it was like a brawl on our pit stand. And then I think I allowed myself to accept that I wanted. Yeah, it was pretty Cool.

[Chris Cote]

What are the craziest things that have happened to your life in the last couple of days?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I got a telegram from the King and Queen of Sweden. Wow, that's pretty. That's kind of when you realize that you've done something special. Otherwise, I mean, I won a 1A Corvette. I won $4.3 million. I won my pocket.

[Chris Cote]

He lists the money third.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Hold on a second. Let's say.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, that's good.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

A lot of stuff. A lot of swag comes with this wind. And I think we're only getting started, to be honest.

[Chris Cote]

Well, tell us something about the swag in a second, but tell us how you got the telegram. I didn't think we were still doing telegrams. Did someone hand you a telegram? Did someone email you a telegram?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

So basically the King's people reached out to my people and it was an email conversation and I had to provide my physical address. And then they sent the telegram in the form of a letter and a copy in a PDF to my email. Wow. It's a mix of the future and the. And the past.

[Chris Cote]

But so when, when you click.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Very cool.

[Chris Cote]

When you click on it, you're like, you don't know what that is. Which one, which one did you get first?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I'm in New York now, so I got the PDF.

[Chris Cote]

Okay. So you're clicking on it, you're like, what is this? Do I trust this? Is this real? Is this, is this spam?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Potential malware?

[Dan LeBatard]

Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks? I know it.

[Sponsor or Guest Speaker]

Well, it's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo fucking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the Night.

[Sponsor or Guest Speaker]

It has that effect on people.

[Dan LeBatard]

It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering, keep it Cuervo.

[Greg Cody]

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[Chris Cote]

LeBatard what is the worst part of the life?

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats

[Felix Rosenqvist]

the worst part of the life of what?

[Stugotz]

This is the Don Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Greg Cody]

What is the community of Swedish athletes like? Is it close? I'm wondering if if you've been hearing from other professional at like Gustav Forsling of the Florida Panthers or anybody else that's reached out here.

[Dan LeBatard]

Weird.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

To be fair with you, I haven't really looked. I have. I think it's in a four digits amount. The amount of messages. And that's not including Instagram, DMs like text message. And WhatsApp is like over a thousand and I haven't even. We just been on a whirlwind here, like a media tour. So I'm gonna take a. When I come home tonight, I'm gonna sit down and go through. But yeah, the two previous Swedish Indy 500 winners have contacted me. It's pretty cool. We have three, I think. Yeah, that's a 9 million people nation.

[Chris Cote]

When you say the swag is incredible. Go ahead and tell us some of the things you're just being handed baskets of free stuff.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Pretty much. Pretty much. It's wherever we go. It seems like I just now have like people around me that handle stuff for me and I'm a. It's so weird, man. I'm like not a very extra extravagant guy. But now apparently I have like servants and people carries my water bottles and gives me coffees and I wake me up in the morning, like a little alarm and stuff. It's definitely a different life from this day on.

[Chris Cote]

Is this something that you have literally dreamt about? Does racing and winning a race this way, is it something that has actually crept into your sleep?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

If I, if I had any sleep, I'm sure it would have. Yeah, dude, it's. I mean, I don't know how much you follow racing, but that finish was like. A lot of people I met said it was the best Indy 500 ever.

[Chris Cote]

And

[Felix Rosenqvist]

yeah, this is stuff you dream about since you're a kid. It's just incredible.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm curious the draw of the Indy 500 to a European because, you know, half a million people on the grounds, it's a huge moment for IndyCar. And all eyes go on that here in the States, but in Europe, that's Formula one country. I wonder if you, if you guys grow up over there knowing about the Indy 500, if it's on a pedestal the way that it is here.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

The cool thing is that it is. Everyone back home knows what this race is. And I, I grew up, you know, when I was eight, I saw Kenny Breck win it. My fellow Sweden in, in 99. And it's just one of those marquee events that it's like the Masters or the Super Bowl. Like everyone knows about this race whether they love racing or not. And, and that's why it's so cool. You know, you're. It's. If you want any other race, you will be obviously in this community, people know about it, but this one is like you jump in a cab in Gothenburg and people know what the Indy 500 is. Yeah. Now I think it's as well, which is awesome.

[Female Contributor]

I'm curious just about the toll on your body for a race like this. How sore are you after racing, period, versus the Indy 500? Like, as specific as you can get. Because I think a lot of people don't realize how much of an exertion it is.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

It is an incredibly physical sport. It's probably the sport where it looks the easiest, but it is the most difficult. I mean, I didn't realize, but we were in the cars for four hours on Sunday and you basically have this little, like, straw to drink out of, where basically like drinking hot tea because it sits next to the radiator and super warm. So it's. It's a massive physical toll. But I think Indy 500 is more like a mental. The mental aspect is actually bigger than the physical one. But, yeah, we. Unfortunately, we have to train a lot for preparing ourselves for these races.

[Stugotz]

Felix, what is the hardest part of the life?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Dude, it's. It's pretty easy to be me right now.

[Chris Cote]

Is it? I would think that the having a baby a couple of weeks ago is the reason you're actually not sleeping. It's not the last couple of days

[Felix Rosenqvist]

and the reason why I'm in New York so I don't have to change diapers.

[Chris Cote]

And congratulations on that. She's taking care of everything. And you've got servants now who make sure that everything is taken care of for you. You'd never. You'd never won an oval race before, ever, correct?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Yeah, I've only won the. The ones we have to turn right as well.

[Chris Cote]

So how rare is that?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

For me, it's very rare. And for me, it's such a statement to myself more than anything to win an oval. Like, in Sweden or in Europe, we don't have ovals. So my first oval race was the Indy 500 2019. And I was, like, completely terrified by the way. It's like an absolute crazy thing to do. Like you're racing at 230 miles per hour, wheel to wheel, and everyone's an absolute lunatic in this field, like you have to be to be good. But I wasn't then. But I kind of learned how to become one and to not let my fear distract me. But, yeah, ovals are. Yeah, they're. They're fast, they're dangerous, but they're, I say, also more rewarding when you. When you win.

[Stugotz]

You mentioned the prize. 4.34 million what are you gonna buy?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I have a lot of bets. 500. I'm gonna buy you this. Buy that snowmobile for my sister. Apparently. I'm gonna start with that.

[Greg Cody]

Apparently?

[Chris Cote]

What do you mean, apparently?

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I heard you talk about, like, pools before.

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Like, you talked about swimming pools and chlorine and all. So I tried to do that myself to, like, do the whole mixture with chemicals. Right now I might actually pay someone to.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's amazing. You're getting a pool guy.

[Chris Cote]

A pool guy and a snowmobile for his sister.

[Dan LeBatard]

I got a good one. 90 bucks a month.

[Chris Cote]

Felix. Congratulations, sir. Delightful to talk to you. It was fun watching and it was fun talking to you.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

Thank you very much.

[Chris Cote]

Except for the long pauses. Thank you. We appreciate it. That was a high wire. That really was.

[Stugotz]

I love that guy.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, he was pretty playful. Pretty lovable.

[Dan LeBatard]

You think the Indy 500 planner would have faster wi fi

[Chris Cote]

somehow. Answers incredibly slow.

[Greg Cody]

Thoughtful. Very thoughtful.

[Chris Cote]

The shampooing of the hair in the pool, Cody, you're not rethinking that. You're doubling down on that?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, of course. Tripling down. Yeah. I'm disappointed that Rosenquist didn't get on board there.

[Stugotz]

You feel clean when you get out of the pool?

[Greg Cody]

Very much so, yeah. Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Do you feel clean when you get out of the pool? Because I don't. I feel like there's a chemical on me. I feel if it's not a saltwater pool, I even. Well, salt water too, actually. But the chlorine is worse. Like, I feel like there's a film off on me when I get out of a pool. And I don't want that in my hair. That's not like shampoo doesn't remedy the fact that I don't want chlorine in my hair.

[Greg Cody]

Chlorine is a cleansing agent, you know. What are you doing?

[Chris Cote]

You think it's good for the hair? You think chlorine, you think?

[Greg Cody]

I've been told that by meteorologists.

[Chris Cote]

Meteorologists. Weather people. Weather people, yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Don no, the former Channel 10 guy told me that chlorinating your hair was good for you.

[Chris Cote]

Don no is who you mentioned someone who hasn't been on television doing the weather in 25 years. How is it that you've only gotten worse since this root for the Canadian.

[Female Contributor]

Oh, my God.

[Greg Cody]

Go ahead, put that on rerun replay. What do you call that? Repeat.

[Stugotz]

He sounds like Commissioner Gordon telling Batman to go get the Joker.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you.

[Chris Cote]

Why would I ask a meteorologist if chlorine is good for the hair.

[Greg Cody]

He deals with rainfall and stuff like that. Water, precipitation.

[Producer or Announcer]

But chlorine's not in any of that precipitation.

[Dan LeBatard]

Greg's right about this.

[Chris Cote]

You're doubling your. Thank you, Billy. You're doubling down. You're doubling down on chlorine and shampooing in the pool. You sound like Becky Hammond. Becky Hammond said the New York Knicks cannot win with Jalen Brunson as their best player. And she was asked about it again, and Becky Hammond did her best. Greg Cody.

[Dan LeBatard]

Knicks fans, you're taking a little bit

[Stugotz]

of grief from what you said about Jamie Brown. You are.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not big enough.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I never say hey.

[Chris Cote]

Exactly.

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[Chris Cote]

I mean, I speak from. I speak from experience, and I never.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

You know, Alan Iverson got mvp and

[Chris Cote]

he lost in the finals, and I

[Felix Rosenqvist]

think the two best teams are probably in the west, but I'm up. I'm up for being proven wrong.

[Chris Cote]

And that's the other thing, is I

[Felix Rosenqvist]

think Jalen Brunson's a hell of a player.

[Greg Cody]

A hell of a player.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I'm speaking historically on the NBA with.

[Chris Cote]

With what I said. I don't know why that's being brought, like, why everybody's so stuck on that. I said it two years ago.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

I stand by you.

[Chris Cote]

Clear that.

[Greg Cody]

Clear the air.

[Felix Rosenqvist]

There's no air to be cleared. I said what I said, he proves me wrong.

[Chris Cote]

He proves me wrong. I mean, I. I. Good for him, but I. I do

[Felix Rosenqvist]

think the two best teams are in the West.

[Stugotz]

We know who you like, right?

[Chris Cote]

Oh, you know who I'm cheering for.

[Greg Cody]

She's not wrong.

[Chris Cote]

Not yet.

[Greg Cody]

Not yet.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, make it right. That's also true.

[Dan LeBatard]

I like that answer. This is a whole, like, gotcha. Social media, old tweets and stuff.

[Stugotz]

They were the rest of that media.

[Dan LeBatard]

She ain't wrong yet.

[Stugotz]

Need to prove me wrong.

[Female Contributor]

Question. Jackson Dart.

[Dan LeBatard]

And then I like. Yeah, okay, so. So what? Then I'm wrong. Cool. Well, he kind of really undid this for the Internet, Becky.

[Stugotz]

I mean, even if. Even if the Knicks win the finals, from an historical perspective, like, she. She's still right. She's still right. I mean, the only small guard. Who's your best player that leads you to a championship? It's Isaiah Thomas. And so I think it's fair two years ago to ask is Jaylah Brunson. Isaiah Thomas.

[Chris Cote]

You don't put Steph in there, though, because Steph is a little bit bigger, and we've just changed the entire game. I've been saying that all of My life since Isaiah won it, I've been saying, won it with a broken foot. Didn't he or didn't he?

[Stugotz]

I think they lost that.

[Chris Cote]

They lost that year. That's right. He was playing in the finals with a broken foot.

[Stugotz]

What a performance.

[Chris Cote]

Yes, But Steph, I just think that maybe that's no longer true. Because if you can shoot from 30ft, all of a sudden the size starts mattering a little bit less if we're going to just distort all of the numbers. So it might. I think a lot of things. I think a lot of people covering sports these days have to sort of rethink some things that have been true the entirety of their lives. Wemby can make it true by just all of a sudden the spurs win and they didn't have to lose first. Right. We've been saying that one for a long time. You have to suffer some before you win the championship in basketball.

[Female Contributor]

She did mention Steph in that original piece with Malika Andrews. She was like, you know, Steph's really the outlier. But I don't think Steph really falls into the same category. She's talking about. He's an off ball guard. He's more of a shooting com guard. Like, he's. He's moving a ton without the ball. I think she's talking about put the ball on the floor. You know, guy that creates his own shot. And Steph certainly can, but that's not really what his role is.

[Stugotz]

Don LeBatard, what do we got here?

[Greg Cody]

I got a Magnum condom. We won't get that out.

[Chris Cote]

That's shocking.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats.

[Greg Cody]

Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old.

[Chris Cote]

Right next to the condo.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Never forget it.

[Stugotz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Chris Cote]

We can probably take the helmet off. No, I'm gonna keep it on. And I. And it's falling apart. By the way, I have American Gigolo Richard gear in my hand because it's falling to pieces. The. The gear head not in. I wanted to get into. Because we have coming out later today, the step back part of a series that is looking back historically at LeBron James. During this time, Izzy Amin and myself sat down for a while and we talked to an assortment of interesting people who have been in LeBron's life. And it's a six part series and we're proud of it. So you could check that out on the feed later today. But LeBron is again. The report again from Brian Windhorse is no discounts. If Cleveland, if you want him, you're going to have to pay full price. It's not going to be that LeBron James continues to be underpaid. I've said this before. LeBron James, every season that he has played has been underpaid because there's a salary cap. And if there were not a salary cap, what he brings to your team, to your economy, to your city, you cannot pay him enough to have him not be underpaid in that sport. So he refuses to take a discount, even if it's the great punctuation story of going back to Cleveland. What are your thoughts there, Zaz? So according to Windhorse, this is according to Brian Windhoard.

[Stugotz]

Nothing wrong with that from LeBron's perspective. But you can't also say winning's most important and that's okay like that, that's totally okay. You could want both, but winning is not most important if you're not want to take a pay cut.

[Greg Cody]

I would think he would put winning first. I would think he would go to someplace thinking, this is my one last chance to get another ring. And if that means you have to take 10 million less a year, it sounds ridiculous to say, like, if that means you only have to take 10 million less a year, you do it. You know, I mean, at this point in his life, how rich is he? You know what I'm saying? Like, the difference between making 55 million a year and 48 million a year is nothing.

[Producer or Announcer]

Yeah, but they have 3 million to spend, according to Windhorst, and he made 54 last season.

[Stugotz]

It is hard to believe that he won't, like, if he makes 50 now, that you won't take 25 to help you win. Especially because, like, if he does do that, like, does anyone think differently? I'm like, oh, that's good. You're not worth 50 million anyway. Like, why not money?

[Female Contributor]

Because he's cheap as hell. He's just about the same cheapness as Tom Dundon. He doesn't even pay for the premium Spotify.

[Chris Cote]

This is not an either or choice. It's not in LeBron James mind. And I've been making a form of this argument since people accused a rod of selling out by going to the Texas Rangers and demanding a contract that was exactly double 252 million, the largest ever given in sports before that, which was 126 to Kevin Garnet. He wasn't choosing losing there. He thought he was going to take the winning with him. Why wouldn't LeBron James think that everywhere he goes, he takes the winning with him. Given that for more than 20 years, everywhere he goes, he takes the winning with him.

[Dan LeBatard]

Also, a Rod doesn't get enough credit because he was actually trying to give some money back and the union would not allow that, if I recall correctly.

[Stugotz]

No, you're right.

[Dan LeBatard]

A Rod was really trying to help facilitate initially what was a Boston deal that was very close. And then he ended up going to the Yankees. But he was, he was all about winning at that point in his career.

[Chris Cote]

I'm going back to the Texas Rangers.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I am too. No, no, he made that decision. I'm with you. He, he didn't think Texas was going to be bad. He thought he was the final piece. And then he suffered. He won MVPs, but they were last place teams. And then when it got time to Boston's interest, he was willing to do whatever it took to facilitate that deal. But, but you know, you can't have a guy at the peak of his powers with that union agreeing to that sort of stuff.

[Stugotz]

I mean, I understand what you're saying about, you know, these players, they believe they're taking the winning with them. So why would LeBron not believe he's taking the winning with him? I don't think it's about that. We're talking about a salary cap sport here and a player who has long talked about needing other good players around him. So it's not that he doesn't believe that he's taking the winning with him. It's if you take less money, you can continue to get all the good players around.

[Dan LeBatard]

I understand why the money is a fascinating part of this. All the contract terms are going to be interesting to me. How long does he sign for? How does he want to keep his options open? Does he sign a multi year deal? What does that look like? Player option after player option. I think it's all interesting.

[Stugotz]

I envision he goes back to what he did every year this last go around with Cleveland, where every year is a one plus one.

[Chris Cote]

Trista, can you please see what kind of math you can do on this? I don't know the exact clientele that Klutch has, but when I tell you that Clutch, the brainchild of LeBron James with Rich Paul, represents 94 NBA players and you are getting basically the way LeBron is paid for carrying that sport, you're getting, I think it's 5%, I don't think it's 10%. I think it's 5% of 94 NBA contracts as part of how it is that you're running a business that has to be run with employees. Can you see if you can do some sort of quick math? I don't know who all those clients are, and I don't expect you to do 94 of them. But just trying to figure out what 5% of that would be. As LeBron's side hustle, he's got a content business that's losing a lot of money as well. The content business. Can you look that up for me, Chris? The reports on how much money the content business has lost over the. Over the last year, because it's been a good amount of money that he has lost. But when you say Zaslow that flatly, he can't say winning is the most important thing if he's not. Not willing to take less money. I would and have never understood I would take less money. I would want to work with my friends and have the best chance at winning at this point in my career because the money would not be that important. And I know I can make it up in commercials like, I know I can make it up with a retirement tour just by. Just by getting a sponsor to my retirement tour. I could do it, but I'm not in. I'm not the one who tells other people to take discounts on their services. I'm not the one to tell other people that they should get less than they're actually worth. When again, I will say underpaid his entire career. And why would he want to take $3,000,000 instead of 50 plus million instead of putting the burden on the franchise?

[Stugotz]

No.

[Chris Cote]

Go find other cheap players. You can find me good players. They're going to be players. I've gotten free agents to come to Cleveland because. Because the traveling circus is something that people want to be a part of. When LeBron James is at the center

[Dan LeBatard]

of your team, it's going to be a little bit different at this stage in his career.

[Stugotz]

It's not the guy anymore.

[Dan LeBatard]

Cleveland is more appealing when you know that LeBron is certifiably the best player in the league.

[Chris Cote]

Zaz was saying yesterday he's going to get Kyrie to come with him. That was yesterday.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Kyrie in 2026 is different than Kyrie back then. And even Kyrie back then was like, I'm out of here.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Producer or Announcer]

Yahoo reported in 2023, his company lost $30 million for the NBA.

[Female Contributor]

The revenue for his side hustle right around 50 million per year. But there's also other sports that they represent. Remember, they represent the NFL as well. Around 200 million a year is what it looks like they're making off of the contracts.

[Chris Cote]

I don't think that LeBron is still interested in the ownership game, but that costs billions like you have to have. It's not hundreds of millions that gets you into the NBA ownership game anymore. And, and all of us, everyone listening to this says take a discount, right? Everyone listening to this says, what's going to be the difference in your life in real terms, LeBron, between taking less money and not taking less money.

[Greg Cody]

Especially with the example of Jalen Brunson

[Sponsor or Guest Speaker]

right now with his friends in the championship.

[Female Contributor]

Without that, you don't get OG Anunoby signed to a long term deal. You don't get Mikhail Bridges signed to a long term deal. You don't figure out a way to get all the Villanova boys there. You don't get Carl Anthony Towns making million. Without Jalen Brunson taking that pay cut, this Knicks team does not exist.

[Stugotz]

We do see this everywhere in sports where you'll have great play. I mean, Connor McDavid just took a discount last year.

[Chris Cote]

Tom Brady did it every year, Every, every year, the last seven, ten years of his career.

[Stugotz]

It's not because they're trying to save the owner money. They're trying to help the team in a salary cap sport.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that's how the Big Three in Miami came together 15 years ago. LeBron's main source of income isn't even his NBA contract anymore. He's got plenty of money otherwise. And what would assure more than a sacrifice financially, what would assure that his homecoming in Cleveland is the sentimental, well received thing that everybody hopes it is.

[Chris Cote]

Just be clear on this part though, okay? This changed. You said he did it in Miami and he did, but never again. Because when he got to Miami, he expected that to come with certain perks. He thought he would get 200 tickets and suites and assortment of other things that would have made it a wink, wink deal. And he didn't get any of those things. And so immediately thereafter he's like, I'm not doing that again, not ever. And he has. Not like that that you say he did it before and he did, but he learned the lesson that I'm never doing it again.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but he was 25 then and he's 41 now. People change. He's matured. He's a different person. Not just a different player, a different person than he was. And I think at this point in his career and his life, maybe he is willing to make.

[Chris Cote]

No, he's not. Okay, no. But what do you mean maybe he is? He's not. The conversation started with he's not.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, well, we'll see.

[Producer or Announcer]

Nobody.

[Chris Cote]

Well, I can't do anything with that.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's good radio. Good stuff, Greg. Becky Hammond right there. I like that.

[Greg Cody]

You can't say that. He won't end up taking a sacrifice. You don't have to bend the knee

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Chris Cote]

And also good for the Vegas Knights.

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