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Stugots
Mikey A God bless football Stugots.
Billy Gill
Thank you Mikey A college football. The elite eight is coming up this week. The NFL. The final week of the regular season. We have a great game of if the season ended today coming up for you in just a minute. Billy, what's going on with that Dolphins hat?
Stugots
This Dolphins hat. Oh, you like this hat? So I got this. It does.
Billy Gill
Helmet hat.
Stugots
Yeah, it has the Stripes has the logos on the side. My. My cousin's wife gave it to me in a little secret Santa exchange over the break. I. I like it. I gotta be honest.
Mikey A
Somebody gets you. I mean, it should be your Cardinals hat or a bear's hat or a cheese hat, but I mean, I guess.
Stugots
Cardinals and the Bears have been eliminated from the playoffs, so we can move on from them. It's. It's down to the Chiefs and the Dolphins at this point for front runner. Billy, you know what I mean?
Billy Gill
I could tell you that the Dolphins are out of the playoffs as well.
Stugots
Oh, I mean, okay.
Billy Gill
I mean, if you're the Chiefs and you control whether or not Joe Burrow makes the playoffs, then you do the right thing and you let Denver into the playoffs. I mean.
Stugots
Oh, I mean, but like, Joe Burrow's not going to make the playoffs. The Dolphins are playing the Jets. The jets, it's a must lose for them.
Mikey A
By the way, telling me, that's not a game. The jets win because they shouldn't, and.
Billy Gill
The Dolphins lose because he doesn't know the Jets.
Mikey A
I mean, I mean, this, this feels like every bit a Jets win for no reason.
Stugots
Yes, potentially. I mean, if Aaron Rodgers wants to go out on top, if he wants to retire, whatever. But like, Aaron Rodgers understood the assignment yesterday. Aaron Rodgers said, you know what? We need to lose this game and I'm going to do my damnedest to make sure we lose this game. And then they took him out because it was close for like 3/4. It was like a 9 to 0 game for like 3/4. Then all of a sudden the Bills decided, you know what? Now let's, let's not. Let's put up 40 points and then they take out Aaron Rodgers. Then Tyrod Taylor comes in and he does not understand that he's supposed to lose the game. He. He had his own agenda. Okay, I have a.
Billy Gill
His agenda was Tyrod Taylor.
Stugots
Yes.
Mikey A
His agenda was I'm going to start next year for this team.
Stugots
I have a game. I have a game called My Agenda. And these are the players that played with my agenda yesterday in mind. Tyrod Taylor, probably like number three on the list. Okay. If you give me a moment, I'll figure out a number two, number one on my agenda yesterday. Drew Locke did not understand what he was supposed to be doing at all yesterday.
Billy Gill
No.
Stugots
Seem to think, you know what? This is a great opportunity for me to go out and ingratiate myself with Giant sands. No, friend, you're probably the most hated person in New York right now. Because your shenanigans yesterday of your five touchdowns has had the Giants go back from potentially number one to number four. Which may be a good thing. Which may be a good thing because if you're watching the bowl games and you saw Shador Sanders come out in Giants cleats saying, oh, you know what, I'm going to be the number one pick. I'm going to end up New York. And then you watch Colorado play, you're like, oh, I don't know, I want this to be the number one pick. I don't know if I want this to be our franchise quarterback. You know what I mean? But guess what, Giants? Now you may not have a choice. And now you may get Shador. Anyways, I don't know if Shador knew something and he knew that Giants were going to blow this, but guess who's number one in the picks right now? It's the Patriots. Because of course the Patriots are going to end up with the number one pick overall.
Billy Gill
Now they don't need a quarterback. So, I mean, they're going to hold.
Mikey A
They'Re going to, they're going to hold an auction for the highest bidder. By the way, number two for my agenda, Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans. Baker Mayfield threw five touchdowns and I think most of them were inside the five. Even though Bucky Irving ran for 120 yards. They're like, nope, we're going to throw this to Mike Evans because he might not get his thousand yards, but he's going to get more touchdowns.
Billy Gill
Yeah, but they needed to win that game though. I mean, yeah, but I mean it.
Mikey A
Was first and goal inside the three.
Billy Gill
And they're like, no, but I'm saying Billy's talking about guys who don't get that this is a must lose game and Drew Lock is out there for himself. And I listen, Billy, I guarantee you the jets are going to overpay for Drew Lock next year.
Stugots
I mean, I, I, I was, I.
Mikey A
Was sitting back and I was making a case. Tyrone, make it a case.
Stugots
As someone who wanted the Dolphins to win at 4 o'clock and was like, man, okay, let's look. Circle of trust here, friends. Let's just, let's have a circle of trust moment, just us. We're going to have sensitive topics come up in this conversation, ok? Circle of trust. Just Mikey Stugatz, myself and our loyal listening fans, ok? And I don't want any betrayals out there and I don't want any of this to get out because again, this is the circle of trust. If your Team is in playoff contention. You should not be resting. Circle of trust. Circle of trust. Anthony Richardson. Play. Circle of trust. Tua Play. Oh, Circle of trust. Jalen Waddle. Play.
Billy Gill
You won without those guys, though. I mean, but.
Stugots
But it's. It honestly feels like no one wants to get the final playoff spot in the afc. Except Joe Burrow.
Billy Gill
And Joe, you have to go to Buffalo.
Stugots
Listen, friend. Get out of here. Joe Burrow, you're not making the playoffs. Just give up, okay?
Billy Gill
I think the winner of the super bowl should have to play the Bengals. How about that?
Stugots
What?
Billy Gill
No one wants to. No one wants to play Joe Burrow right now, Billy. Nobody. No. Why would you?
Stugots
I mean, you're not going to have to. Right? One team has to play Joe Burrow and it's the Steelers. And by the way, Steelers. Steelers kind of need to win that game next week if they want to win their division.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Stugots
Have home field. So like, yes, there's a couple of still up in the airs or up for grabs if I like to call them. You want to know the up for grabs for next week? Sure. Have it all written down. Up for grabs next week. This is. It's kind of a season ended today, but up for grabs. AFC North, NFC north and NFC South. And by the way, we are waking up to a morning where for the first time, the Lions are not in the driver's seat.
Billy Gill
No, Sam Arnold is.
Stugots
Lions are no longer, no longer the number one seed. Right now they're a five seed. And I mean, it's just because they haven't played this week yet and they're playing tonight. So must win game for the Lions tonight. And also it's setting up for one of the biggest regular seasons ever in a game that you don't want taking place when it's taking place, which is Sunday Night Football next week, which is Lions, Vikings. And you do not want to be playing that game. I mean, you want to win that game so that you get a buy. But like under normal circumstances, you just want to rest your guys and not be playing at 8 o'clock on Sunday night. The last week of the season.
Mikey A
One of those two teams is going to have to go on the road the following week. Like think about how crazy that is. One of those two teams is going to have to either go to probably Atlanta or Tampa on the road next week. Despite having 14 wins. By the way, how do you feel for Sam Darnold watching? Like, I'm sure you saw the video of him walking into the locker room and then lifting him on his shoulders and dousing him with water. And all I could think was for Zach Bleepin Wilson.
Billy Gill
Well, that's gonna happen to him in three years. Yeah. No, you'll see. I mean, maybe four, something like that. No, it hurts. I honestly, you guys laugh at the notion when I say to you, what are the Vikings going to do in the off season? How can you walk away from Sam Darnold after the season he's given you this year as a New York jet, he had 13 career wins. He has 14 wins this season, season alone for the Vikings. How could you walk away from what he's done and go with the unknown of JJ McCarthy? The only answer is obviously the contract. But it's going to be hard for the Vikings to walk away from Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold is going to get paid.
Mikey A
I want to ask Shirley Schefter what she thinks that JJ McCarthy could fetch in a trade at this point.
Billy Gill
Okay.
Mikey A
Like what?
Billy Gill
What?
Mikey A
I mean, yeah, I mean, I want to know what.
Stugots
Sure, have that about it.
Billy Gill
Well, she could ask Adam.
Mikey A
Listen, Shirley's got it.
Stugots
We gotta ask Jeff in the background. Jeff's feet.
Billy Gill
But, Billy, you were happy with Drew Locke because you needed the Colts to lose that game. So that worked out for you.
Stugots
That worked out for me. But like, if you're a Giants fan, you're watching this happen. Like, how? How? On, like, Drew Lock. Drew Locke. Like, what are. What are we doing with Drew Locke? Get out of here. Yesterday Stugat, I was like, because. Because I knew Tyler Huntley was starting for the Dolphins. I was talking myself into, like, wanting anyone be quarterback for the Dolphins because I was like, Tyler Huntley in a must win game. Like, what are we doing? Also, and I knew it was going to happen, and it happened somewhat. Like, I really, I really don't want to be seeing videos of two on the sidelines with a headset, like, hyping up the guys, like, I need a break from this. Again. Circle of trust. I need a break from this. You want to be a great teammate? Play. Play in a must win game. Again. Again. Circle of trust. And I know we read the thing. He really wanted to be out there. Training staff, Mike McDaniel, Greer, all of them are the ones that like, no, no, you can't play. Play. You know what you do. Circle of trust. Circle of trust. All of us here. Circle of trust. You lied to the trainers. That's exactly what you do. I used to do it in track all the time. I wasn't a football feet. I had Purple ankles because they were so badly sprained. I couldn't walk. I was limping and I was like, give me a pole. I'll go back out there. And they're like, dude, you are going to kill yourself if you try to pole vault with sprained ankles. You can't even walk. You're going to go up in the air, fall down and break your neck. But I tried the lie, Lie, lie to the trainers. That's what you do.
Billy Gill
I think getting one pasture tracking field coach is a little bit easier than getting through the layers of the NFL.
Mikey A
I'm not sure.
Stugots
NFL, listen. Let me tell you something.
Billy Gill
Slip them 100.
Stugots
I mean, there's players out there all the time playing with injuries they shouldn't have. You have guys playing concussed all the time because they're just like, hey, what year is it? And they're like, oh, 2014. They're like, close enough. Get back out there, buddy. He said four. Exactly. They got three of the four numbers, right? Perfect.
Billy Gill
All right, so Billy, what do you do? You're saying players play. Okay, if you're playing off contention. Okay, so the. So the Chiefs have nothing to play for. But the Chiefs can help your Dolphins out next week. So what do you do if you're Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs? Because you can just merely let the Broncos win and the Broncos get in. You don't have to deal with Tua. You don't have to deal with Joe Burrow. How about that?
Stugots
Well, okay, so I mean, I don't think they're afraid of dealing with the Dolphins. And two of they hosted them in the first round of the playoffs last year and they beat them pretty easily.
Billy Gill
Well, they wouldn't get them in the first round, Billy. Keep them.
Stugots
No, I know, right? I know, but I'm saying they. Look, I mean, if they got him later in the playoffs, it's even better for them than in the first round as far as the Chiefs are concerned. The Chiefs have already said they're benching everyone. So the Broncos are going to have to beat like third string Chiefs, which we'll see if that.
Billy Gill
Hold on. There might be a Drew Lock scenario where Carson Wentz is playing for Carson Wentzen.
Stugots
Wentz.
Mikey A
Carson Wentz agenda. A Carson Wentz agenda could ruin a lot of seasons.
Stugots
This is. This is gonna sound bad.
Billy Gill
Fascinating.
Stugots
This is gonna sound bad and very disrespectful. I think the third string Chiefs could still beat the Broncos. I think they can still beat the Broncos. Bo Nicks has not really shown me Very much as of late.
Billy Gill
I think the question is, could the third string Chiefs beat the Bills? Man, I don't know.
Stugots
I don't understand the Bills. Like, it's so crazy because coming in, we're like, the Bills don't really have anyone. Like, Josh Allen doesn't really have a weapon here. And then they said like an NFL record for most people who have scored a touchdown on offense in the season. They, they said franchise records for touchdowns scored in a season. It's crazy. By the way, I don't know if you guys caught this yesterday. I. You, you may have, you may not have because it was so late in the game that you, you may have turned off the Jets Bills game. Were you watching that game at all or.
Billy Gill
No? No.
Stugots
Okay.
Mikey A
I, I did.
Stugots
Well, okay then, then Mikey. I'm sure, I'm sure Mikey caught this because on the opposite side of the own agenda, we were getting like crazy, selfless Josh Allen praise at one point for simply handing a ball off to Cook to score a touchdown on like the one yard line. Because they're like, oh, you know, Josh is. This is perfect for Josh. He's going to go in there, he's going to pad his touchdown stats and his MVP candidacy and like, whoa, whoa. I can't believe it. Oh, he did the right thing. That was so selfless.
Billy Gill
You know what?
Stugots
If the, if the NFL MVP award comes down to one touchdown, which I don't think it will, I think, you know what, Josh did the right thing. That was the right play. And we were like praising Josh Allen for simply handing the ball off to his running back on the one yard line, which was insane. I thought. It's like, guys, like, calm it down. If you want Josh Allen to win the mvp, just vote for him. Okay? Like, let's not do this whole thing like he's Superman just because he handed off. The guy has videos coming out all. Look, circle of trust. Circle of trust. I kind of like Josh Allen now. Circle of trust.
Billy Gill
I know you've always liked him, Mikey. Circle. I want to try circle of trust. I want to try it. I want to try. Mikey, Mikey, Mikey.
Stugots
He's always like, Josh, no, false, false.
Billy Gill
No, no, Mikey.
Stugots
He has. So here's the thing. Here's the thing. No, here's the thing. We have videos of him, like, doing all this charitable work. My cleats, my. Cause he does things with children with cancer. Like, he seems to be a very nice guy, right?
Billy Gill
Yes.
Stugots
But all of a sudden handing the ball off to his running back on the one Yard line, like, makes him a saint. It's insane. Like, that's not why he's like a decent person. Because he decided to just give the ball to his running back. Like, get out of here with that stuff.
Billy Gill
He's a selfless, he's a selfless leader, Billy. That's what he wasn't.
Stugots
He wasn't until that moment. That's when he became like the good selfless guy. And it's like, wow, you know what? I'd be, I'd be shocked. I'd be shocked if he doesn't win like Walter Payton, man of the year for handing the ball off on the one yard line. Like, not for any of the other stuff, just for handing the ball off the one yard line. You know what? Walter Payton, man of the year. Thank you, Josh Allen. What a good guy you are.
Billy Gill
Hey, guys, circle of trust. Josh Allen likes you. Billy, what are you doing?
Stugots
I don't know about that. I'm not criticizing.
Billy Gill
Josh told me he likes you.
Stugots
I'm not criticizing Josh. I'm criticizing, I'm criticizing, like, what happened around it. Also, also if, if, like we're analyzing the MVP race, like, and the stats because, like, that's become a thing where like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, whatever.
Billy Gill
It should be Sam Darnold.
Stugots
Okay? It shouldn't, but they should be Billy Self, selfless, Josh Allen, man, they take him out of the game a lot. Like, he has pretty good stats and like, he didn't play the fourth quarter yesterday and like, early in the season he wasn't playing a lot. Also, like, they take him out when these games are blown out, which kind of affects the stats slightly.
Billy Gill
Yes, Mikey. He quickly dismissed me saying it should be Sam Darnold. You could also include Jaden Daniels in that conversation last night. And Josh Allen's likely going to win it. But Mikey A seemed to agree with me on Darnold because he knows how good of a season he's having.
Stugots
Can I, can I, can I say something? Can I say something that happened yesterday?
Mikey A
I mean, that was a team. Hold on a second. That was a team that was slated for six wins. They've got 14. I know Sam Darnold. He's got 30, 14 wins.
Stugots
Can I, he's not gonna win.
Mikey A
Listen, I, I, I, Josh Allen should win. Lamar Jackson should be second place.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Mikey A
Sam Darnold should be in the conversation. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Stugots
If you vote for him, you're lighting your vote on fire. That is a waste of A vote. Don't even bother.
Mikey A
I didn't say I'd vote for him. Number one. But he's on the list. That's all I'm saying. He's on the list.
Stugots
Slot him in number three if you want. That's fine.
Billy Gill
Sure.
Stugots
That's fine.
Billy Gill
Thank you.
Mikey A
That's all I want.
Stugots
Now, here's. Here's the thing that. I don't know. I don't know why we're doing postseason awards today, but if. If you want, we can talk about.
Billy Gill
This if the season ended today. I mean, today.
Stugots
How about the. The Rookie of the year? And we've been talking about Jada Daniels all this time and panic. So what?
Mikey A
They have something really.
Billy Gill
Good season on a bad team, though.
Stugots
Yeah, he's. He's not gonna win Rookie of the year, but.
Billy Gill
Well, no, Jaden is.
Stugots
He is, but Rock Bowers is setting records, like, very secretly. Also.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Stugots
Also looks like he played in the 1970s. Like his hair situation. Circle of trust. His hair situation. The man looks 50 years old, right? He looks like what every NFL player looked like in, like, 1975.
Mikey A
Yes.
Billy Gill
Ray Nitschke.
Stugots
Yeah, I know what's going on there, but great, great, great player. Brock Bowers. Congratulations.
Mikey A
I do. The circle of trust. I haven't got.
Billy Gill
Yeah, try it.
Mikey A
Okay. Circle of trust, guys. Circle of trust. The Falcons made the right move, taking Michael Panicks.
Billy Gill
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Listen, that was the greatest incompletion of all time last night. Did you see it? Did you see the one in the first quarter that I'm talking about? Everyone was raving about the arm strength. It was like. It's one of those, like, 50 yard seam passes that was like. It was like a laser, man. He doesn't have to throw. He doesn't have to put loft on it to get it downfield. It's like Elway, you know, Josh Allen, to be honest with you, it seems.
Stugots
To be pretty good. Pretty good. And he's. He's going to give you Kirk Cousins next year for the jets, so.
Billy Gill
No, no, no. We're signing Drew Locke.
Stugots
Okay, good. All right.
Mikey A
To complete with. To compete with Tyrod.
Billy Gill
Maybe Carson Wentz.
Mikey A
Week goes, we'll see his agenda. By the way, Carson Wentz wins this game, he's a Jet next year. Call it now.
Billy Gill
No doubts.
Stugots
Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet? Yeah, sold it to Carvana. Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.
Billy Gill
The guy who wanted to pay me.
Stugots
In foreign currency, no interest, over 36 months.
Billy Gill
Yeah, no, Carvana gave me an Offer in minutes.
Stugots
Picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient. Just like that.
Billy Gill
Yep.
Stugots
No hassle.
Billy Gill
None.
Stugots
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Billy Gill
Billy, there are two games this week that are interesting to me and only two games. And it makes me think that perhaps there should be like, you know, six to eight teams in this. It's the, it's the Notre Dame, Georgia game, right? Yeah.
Stugots
And Ohio State, Oregon.
Mikey A
And Ohio State.
Billy Gill
Oregon, Ohio State game. Yeah, that's it. The other games, like the fact that they had all this time to come up with an expanded 12 team playoff. And what they came up with is a scenario in which Boise State has a bye week to freshen up before their first playoff.
Stugots
And Arizona State.
Billy Gill
And Arizona State is absurd. I'm sorry.
Mikey A
Listen, the 12 teams is fine. I get what you're trying to do. The problem is you got to seed them right way. Just seed them 1 to 12. You don't. You do not need to seed them where the conference champion is the ones getting the buy because then we would have the right teams getting the buy and the right teams played. Last week, we might have had some good games. Last week we might have had. We might have had Boise State, Arizona State. I might have enjoyed that. That might have been.
Billy Gill
Okay, well.
Stugots
And by the way, and if you see them 1 to 12, Alabama gets in.
Billy Gill
Oh, no doubt, no doubt, of course.
Mikey A
Well, listen, if you want to get the conference champions in because of whatever, like, that's fine, but you don't have to give Them a buy. You do not have to do that.
Stugots
I do like the idea of like the bubble teams. Not like the bubble teams that didn't make it. Like Boise State and Arizona State. Like guys playing game. Congratulations, you made the playoffs. You're both playing in the first round for the right to play the real schools. Like respectfully. Respectfully to Boise State and Arizona State and all circle of trust and fan bases and the states and you know, the United States of America. Respectfully to all of them. But Boise State, you have a blue field and you had one moment in. In a bowl game 15 years ago that anyone remembers.
Mikey A
It was a good moment, though.
Stugots
The wedding was proposal. It was a great moment. Oh, great moment. Marriage play, wedding, proposal. Oh, I hope that the Statue of Liberty together. Yeah.
Billy Gill
Oh, that would be two moments then.
Stugots
I mean, it was all connected. It's all one thing. Exactly. Right? You had a night. Congratulations. We love you for it. That doesn't mean you get a buy.
Billy Gill
This is just between us, right?
Stugots
That doesn't mean you gotta buy.
Billy Gill
Right?
Stugots
Just because, like. Enough.
Billy Gill
Right?
Stugots
Enough. I want Arizona State.
Billy Gill
Arizona State? Are you kidding me? Good. Since Jake Plummer's been there, you're a party school.
Stugots
Okay? I'm sure you have great tailgates. Great. No one gives a. Like you don't deserve a buy. Okay, like, enough with this.
Billy Gill
Agreed.
Stugots
Yeah.
Mikey A
I think Billy should be the Joe Lenardi of college football because I hear him talking about bubble teams of college football.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Mikey A
Billy brackets. Billy brackets. Do it.
Stugots
I'm gonna write this down.
Mikey A
I want it.
Billy Gill
Yes.
Stugots
Did you see what's picking up steam this week?
Billy Gill
No.
Stugots
Nick Saban should be commissioner of college football.
Billy Gill
I'm down with that.
Stugots
Of course you are. I knew as soon as I.
Mikey A
Commissioner of college football forever.
Stugots
As soon as I saw that, I said, I know someone who's gonna love.
Mikey A
Can we call him a czar? Can we call him a czar?
Billy Gill
Yes. The czar of college football. Yes.
Stugots
I don't know why I wrote down.
Mikey A
Billy brackets, but Alabama would never miss a playoff again.
Stugots
Oh, no, no, no. Come on, get out of here. That's fine.
Billy Gill
So you're not excited, really? I'm with you guys. I'm excited for two of the four games. Arizona State should not have a buy.
Stugots
Look, we're doing this wrong and I want Texas obviously to advance. Right. However, I mean, we've sitting around playing Arizona State for. Respectfully to Arizona State and the state of Arizona State. I'm just. I'm trying to be respectful.
Billy Gill
Yeah, yeah. But you don't have to be.
Stugots
By the way, the Pop Tarts bowl. It names Pop Tarts Bowl. Lived up to expectations. Holy crap. Pop Tarts gets it.
Mikey A
They just get it.
Stugots
They get it. I know there's people. They get it in more ways than. Than you think, because I know there's a lot of people here. Like, you know what? Like, I don't. I don't. I don't want a gimmicky bowl game like friends. That's all bowl games are. It's all gimmicks. It's all for the brands. So, like Pop Tarts trying the hardest and being the best at the gimmicks. I love it.
Billy Gill
Sinking into it. Yes. They should all do that.
Stugots
So, you guys, I don't know if you saw what happened in the Pop Tarts bowl, not just on the field, but off the field as well.
Mikey A
So who watched on the field?
Stugots
Well, on the field, no one's playing defense whatsoever.
Billy Gill
Played a half. I mean, I didn't watch the Pop Tarts Bowl.
Mikey A
Broke a record. Took himself out.
Billy Gill
Good for him. Between us, I mean.
Stugots
Well, here's. So here's. Here's what you missed in the Pop Tarts bowls. To guts. I don't know if you saw last year's edition of the Pop Tarts poll, but it was, you know, last year was. Was a big hit. It was very exciting. You had the Pop Tarts mascot dancing around, and then at the end, the Pop Tarts mascot stepped on the big fake toaster.
Billy Gill
Fake.
Stugots
And then the Pop Tarts mascot went into the. I guess it's not fake. The Pop Tarts mascot went into the giant toaster and then came out and they ate the Pop Tarts mascot. Pop Tarts mascot sacrificed him or herself last year and was eaten by the winning team. It was a very sad day because we lost a great mascot. And then this year's Pop Tarts bowl came out.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Stugots
Yeah. Strawberry Frosted. Pop Tart. Then this year's Pop Tarts bowl started. And, you know, with the new year comes a new trophy for the Pop Tarts bowl. This Pop Tarts bowl trophy is a working toaster. And we had three mascots this year, but again, we're still missing Strawberry Frosted. Who paid the ultimate sacrifice and sacrificed him or herself to the winning team, who then, you know, ate Strawberry Frost. It didn't eat Strawberry Frosted completely. You know, they ate as much as you could. It was a giant Pop Tart. So we were out there and we were running around. The Pop Tarts were running around which are the Pop Tarts gonna be? They ripped off their Pop Tarts. You know, I don't even know. Clothes. Pop Tarts clothes. Like the aluminum foil wrapping. And we saw who the new Pop Tarts mascots were, and then we paid tribute to the Strawberry Frosted Pop Tart. Who? Who?
Mikey A
A true in memoriam.
Stugots
A Truin memorial on the screen. It was 2024 to 2024. Whatever the years were. And they were. You know, the sad music was playing without you, my friend. So. So that's all playing and we have a nice tribute. And lo and behold, rising from the dead was Strawberry Frosted Pop Tart mask mascot on top of the scoreboard now.
Billy Gill
Wow.
Stugots
Didn't look. Didn't look the same as last year's Strawberry Frosted Pop Tart. This one looked exactly like the devoured Strawberry Frosted Pop Tart. So it had pieces missing and it was all, you know, charred and burned and there's strawberry frosting. But gave us hope. Gave us hope because this year's winners chose to eat cinnamon or cinnamon roll. I don't know which Pop Tart. It was supposed to eat the cinnamon roll. The MVP got to choose which flavor we're gonna eat. They chose the cinnamon roll. But now we know cinnamon roll may be back next year and may not be gone forever. So it's important. Big day. Big day for the Pop Tarts Bowl. They get it.
Billy Gill
Thank you for the recap.
Stugots
Yeah, well, I. I like how you say thank you for the very thorough too of the Pop Tarts poll because I didn't recap a single damn thing that happened in the actual game.
Billy Gill
Well, who cares about anything that happened in that game? Right. By the way, circle of trust. Okay. I think the teams that lost last week in the College Football Playoff.
Stugots
Yeah.
Billy Gill
If they played Arizona State or Boise State, the teams that lost that have been eliminated on a neutral field. I think I take all four losing teams to win the game.
Stugots
Indiana looked pretty bad.
Billy Gill
I forgot about that.
Stugots
They looked pretty bad.
Billy Gill
Yeah. But Indiana, Boise State on a neutral field?
Stugots
I mean, well, hold on. Are we talking Boise State or Arizona State?
Billy Gill
Would you take Tennessee over Arizona State or Boise State on a neutral field right now?
Mikey A
Now.
Billy Gill
Yes. Yeah.
Stugots
Yeah.
Billy Gill
What are we doing?
Stugots
I. I don't know. It's a good question. What are we doing? Smu. How do we feel about smu?
Billy Gill
They beat Boise State.
Mikey A
They beat Boise State. They might. Neutral field day, too.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Stugots
All right.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Stugots
It was the fourth.
Billy Gill
Who did Notre Dame beat at? Indiana.
Stugots
Indiana.
Billy Gill
I'll check it out. Hold On. I'll tell you right now, this is a fun game with the four losing.
Mikey A
Clemson.
Stugots
Clemson. I think Clemson.
Billy Gill
Just Clemson over both teams.
Stugots
I would, too. Just. Just based on. On their history. I'd take Clemson pedigree. Yes. Yeah.
Billy Gill
Ridiculous.
Stugots
I'm so glad that we. I'm so glad we have 12 teams in the playoffs, though. It's. It's great. So much fun.
Billy Gill
It's. It's pretty stupid. Billy, you're gonna make your big board bets.
Mikey A
The Bengals.
Billy Gill
What was that?
Stugots
My big. I do have my big board bet so we can get to. What was that? Mikey?
Mikey A
I was just gonna say I would do the same thing with the Bengals after this week. Whoever win, whoever loses the first round of the NFL playoffs, I'd take the Bengals over them in a neutral site.
Billy Gill
Yeah. How do you address this with Carson Wentz? Because Carson Wentz could be out there playing for himself. But really, what's best for the team? Like, what is Andy. Carson Wentz.
Stugots
I mean, why would.
Mikey A
The third string.
Stugots
Why would they want to lose, though? The Chiefs?
Billy Gill
Well, I just think if you're looking at the. The landscape of the afc, the two teams. Of the three teams that still have a chance of making it into the playoffs, the other six spots, you want the Broncos.
Stugots
The Broncos. The Broncos.
Billy Gill
I know what you're. The Broncos are very good. They're well coached. They have a Super bowl champion head coach, Sean Payton. I get it. I'm just saying, if you're just basing it on the quarterback and stuff like that, I think the team you most would want in there in the event that you have to play them at some point would be the Denver Broncos.
Mikey A
Joe Burrow has a winning record against Mahomes.
Stugots
Well, okay, so I think. And I could be wrong, I think you'd want the Dolphins if. And I'm saying this is a biased.
Billy Gill
Dolphins over the Broncos.
Stugots
I do. Because the Broncos. It took the.
Mikey A
But you can't control that.
Billy Gill
You can't control it.
Mikey A
You can't control that.
Billy Gill
But. But Mikey's right. You can't control it. Billy. What. The only thing you could control is keeping Joe Burrow.
Stugots
Well, okay, but, but, but that game is happening Saturday, I believe. So you're going to know the result of that game beforehand. That's they play Pittsburgh Saturday. And the Steelers need to win.
Billy Gill
And the Steelers need to win. You're right. Yes.
Stugots
So, like you're going to go into your game is if you're. The Chiefs and the Dolphins, by the way, both play Sunday at 4:25 Saturday at 8:00 is the Bengals and the Steelers. So you're going to know the Bengals result headed into that game.
Mikey A
If the Ravens win at 4:00, the Steelers have nothing to play for.
Billy Gill
Yeah, it's a wrap, actually.
Stugots
It's a wrap.
Billy Gill
The Ravens will have locked the Ravens beating the Browns at home, which they will at 1:00. At 4:30. I'm sorry. Then it's over.
Stugots
Essentially, Mike Tomlin does not rest.
Billy Gill
Oh, no, that's a good one.
Mikey A
You give us a dress.
Billy Gill
Well, well, hold on, Mikey. Because he might be playing for that fifth seed because the Chargers are also 10 and 6. So what does.
Mikey A
What does that do for you?
Billy Gill
What is.
Mikey A
What does the fifth seed versus the six seed do for you?
Billy Gill
The fifth seed brings you to Houston. That's what it does for you. It brings you to Houston. Week one of the playoffs does not.
Mikey A
Care who is across.
Billy Gill
No. But the six seed brings you to Baltimore. Come on, stop that.
Stugots
He would want that would want Texas. I want that.
Mikey A
He wants to prove it.
Stugots
I think headed into. I think head into the playoffs, I. Texas might be the team everybody wants.
Mikey A
Yes.
Stugots
I mean it depends who, who Depends who gets the final wild card spot. Put Texans right now. I'm not looking good.
Billy Gill
The Steelers are gonna have stuff to play.
Mikey A
Nobody wants the Bengals.
Billy Gill
Yeah, nobody wants the Bengals who aren't in the playoffs. I love the NFL. Billy. We have a Monday night game tonight. Lions 49ers. Yes. I love you guys said it earlier. There's gonna be potentially a team as a wild card.
Mikey A
No, there is going to be a 14 win team as a wild card. That's happening.
Billy Gill
It's absolutely insane. 14 and three wild card. They. I know. The NFL should do something about that though.
Stugots
What are they gonna do?
Billy Gill
What.
Stugots
What are they.
Billy Gill
Just seat them by record, man.
Stugots
Oh.
Billy Gill
What do you think? You can't have the Falcons. You can't have the Bucks as a higher seed than the. Than the 14 and 3.
Mikey A
You sure can.
Billy Gill
Baker's gonna be a problem.
Stugots
I mean.
Billy Gill
Yes. I mean, you might beat the box, but you're gonna have to kill Baker.
Stugots
I mean seriously. Oh, okay.
Billy Gill
I mean, he's a good.
Mikey A
You got some bets.
Stugots
I. I do have some bets.
Billy Gill
By the way. Five and one against. You got. You're welcome everyone for the great season I've had.
Mikey A
Thank you.
Billy Gill
The Raiders also tonight, by the way.
Stugots
Raiders didn't understand the assignment yesterday. I think. I think Antonio Pierce was playing for his own agenda yesterday. Right.
Mikey A
That's because they didn't have A Keenan Allen to tell everybody we're not playing for the coach.
Billy Gill
That's right.
Mikey A
That's why had it.
Billy Gill
Devonte Adams. He's with the jets now, right? Yes.
Stugots
Did you guys see also this weekend that there was some. Some whispers. Some whispers Mike McCarthy may have done enough to keep his shot.
Billy Gill
So good.
Stugots
So good.
Mikey A
Get a new contract.
Stugots
It's crazy. There was. There was a caveat of. It's not just up to Jerry, though, which, by the way. Yes, it is.
Mikey A
It is. Trust. It is.
Stugots
It definitely is just up to Jerry.
Billy Gill
The circle of trust. It is. I mean, just.
Stugots
But it's okay, Mike. You let it go. We're not supposed to have this episode. We don't have sponsors. So don't kill yourself. Let that one. Let that one fly.
Billy Gill
Don't worry. We're good.
Mikey A
We're good.
Billy Gill
Sorry, Billy. I'm sorry.
Stugots
Sorry. Sorry, children, if you're listening out here. But anyways, you want some big board bets.
Billy Gill
Yes, I want some big board bets. And I want to finish with. If the season ended today. Mikey has okay off matchups.
Stugots
All right. I'll go very quick.
Billy Gill
Okay.
Stugots
All right. Big board bets brought to you by. We don't have a sponsor right now. If I was in a draft, Kings State. These are bets that I may. I may feel strongly enough about to put in the first one. The Lions minus three and a half tonight.
Billy Gill
Smart pick.
Stugots
Must win game today for the Lions, which is crazy when you have 13 wins and you only have two games left in the season. But they need to win this game. And 49ers not. Not looking the best right now. So I'm gonna say the Lions plus or sorry. Minus three and a half.
Billy Gill
So, Billy, while you're doing your second pick here, I think it's such a fascinating decision the Niners have to make in the offseason. Kyle Shanahan's fine. They'll keep them. I'm not certain they should. The decision is whether or not Mikey. They pay Brock Purdy. I mean, because they've been living on that rookie scale, that rookie contract, and filling in around Brock Purdy, and he's been good. Good enough to get them to the Super Bowl. I don't know if he's great. I don't know if he's a guy that you want to Pay, you know, $30 million a year to, so.
Stugots
Well, that is a perfect setup, guys, because my next one is Brock Purdy over 254 and a half passing yard.
Billy Gill
You're welcome.
Stugots
Yep. Lions pass defense, not the best Right.
Billy Gill
What do they do there?
Mikey A
Trade them to the Jets? Because I would take them in a second.
Billy Gill
I was gonna say let the jets side. Suddenly the jets have a quarterback room. That's Brock Purdy, Carson Grew Lock and Tyrod.
Mikey A
Don't Forget Tyrod.
Billy Gill
Aiden O'Connell.
Mikey A
I, I think you have to pay him. I think you have to pay him because you don't have another option.
Billy Gill
Yeah, I guess.
Stugots
I mean he's good. He's good enough. He wasn't their problem this season.
Billy Gill
No, no, Billy, he's good enough when you're paying him a rookie scale contract. Is he good enough when you're paying him, you know, elite level type money? Right.
Stugots
I don't worry about that. All right. The next one I am worried about what the. What do I honestly is going to sound. What do I care what they have to pay these players? It's not coming out of my money. I'm not a topologist. I don't even figure it out.
Billy Gill
Because you love football.
Mikey A
Somebody has to go. Somebody has to go. If you pay your quarterback, I don't care.
Billy Gill
You love football.
Stugots
Yeah, I love football, but I don't love math. So I'm not gonna be trying to figure out the. There's no math right now.
Billy Gill
They're paid them like dead cap and live cap.
Stugots
And this cap, he's buying his offensive.
Mikey A
Lineman hundred thousand dollar cars for Christmas.
Stugots
That was so dumb. Dude, why did you buy so many cars for your offensive lineman? You, you like you don't have the money yet. Like you spent almost your entire salary on cars for your offensive lineman. Don't do that. Wait until you get paid. Okay, maybe, but what if he gets injured today and he doesn't get his money? Just wait. Okay, anyways, next one, Jameer Gibbs over 18 and a half rushing attempts. All right, 49ers run defense, not the best. And I feel like Tamir Gibbs, now that he's the main guy is going to get a lot of attempts tonight. So we'll see.
Billy Gill
There are other running back who's out. Right? So that's. I like that bet, Billy. It's a good bet.
Stugots
Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully we get back on track. We. We had, we've had a bad two weeks. We're gonna be perfectly on circle of trust. We've had a bad two weeks. I've let you guys down two and five two weeks ago last week. Oh and two. Oh and two. And you say why Owen two made three picks? Because we had a late scratch on one of the, the bets. Before the game started. So that bet gets tossed out. So. Oh, and two.
Mikey A
Yeah.
Billy Gill
Oh, all right. I was five and one again.
Stugots
I mean, you mentioned that.
Billy Gill
77, 43 and two on the season. I have the Lions tonight.
Stugots
Nobody cares.
Billy Gill
Mikey, let's get to the seat.
Stugots
Are you. Are you not happy that people have wanted to. To get my big board bets? You seem not happy every time it comes.
Billy Gill
Well, I mean, we're just making a big deal about your big board bets. And you do. We're not down on a small board and you dressed it up and it's all fun and it's just sitting here churning out winners and no one cares because they're enamored with you. Yes. I'm jealous.
Stugots
Jealousy.
Billy Gill
I heard that on a card.
Mikey A
I wrote him down because I bet him. As you said. Them. I wrote them down so I could bet.
Billy Gill
Yes. Yeah, I took the Lions tonight. So anyway, if the season. So Billy gave you his big board bets. He's been great all year. Except for the last two weeks. That's fine. Everyone has a little. Everyone has a little slop over the course of the season. Except me.
Stugots
Except you. I was gonna say except you.
Billy Gill
Thank you, Billy. All right, Mikey, so we'll finish out here with. If the season ended today, what do you have for us? If the NFL season ended today.
Mikey A
If the NFL season. All right. Circle of trust. The AFC is probably not going to change much, so we'll do them first. If the season ended today, the Denver Broncos are headed to the Buffalo Bills.
Billy Gill
Billy likes the Broncos.
Stugots
I mean, I do not like the Broncos. I've been very clear about that.
Billy Gill
Seems like he loves them.
Mikey A
That's what I heard.
Billy Gill
Exactly.
Stugots
Right.
Billy Gill
Thank you. Loves them. Not so sure. You want the Dolphins of the team. You want to let it if you're the Chiefs. Right.
Stugots
Broncos almost beat the Chiefs like a couple weeks ago. They had to block a field goal.
Billy Gill
Right. It's going to be a blowout. Broncos. The Bills blow out. The Broncos. Yes.
Mikey A
If the season ended today. This is. This is where it gets a little shaky. The Chargers would go to the Ravens or Bobble again.
Stugots
Wow.
Mikey A
Horrible.
Billy Gill
Horrible.
Stugots
Harbors are always one sided.
Billy Gill
Yes.
Mikey A
Yeah.
Stugots
It's always John. Seems like John.
Mikey A
Always John.
Stugots
John's figured Jim out. Yeah.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Stugots
John's got Jim's number.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Mikey A
They're brothers. They should have each other's number. If the season ended today.
Billy Gill
The joke. It was a good one.
Mikey A
The Steelers.
Billy Gill
Wait, hold on a second. What are we doing? Are we saying the Ravens win that game?
Stugots
Yeah, we're Just saying. If the season ended today. Yeah.
Billy Gill
Okay. Lamar wins the final. All right, all right, all right.
Mikey A
The Steelers go to the Texans.
Stugots
Yeah. You want that fear of the Steelers.
Billy Gill
You want. That's what I was saying before.
Stugots
Yeah.
Billy Gill
The Steelers win.
Stugots
Oh, okay.
Billy Gill
I mean, if we're going to play. The season ended today, I want to play. If the season ended today. I like making predictions. Yes.
Mikey A
Yes to the nfc.
Billy Gill
So the Chiefs have a bye week. That way. Who would the Chiefs get in that scenario? If those three teams.
Mikey A
The lowest. The lowest.
Stugots
Yeah.
Mikey A
They recede in the NFL.
Billy Gill
So who it would be the Steelers then, right?
Stugots
Well, it depends if the Broncos fall.
Mikey A
Off in your scenario.
Billy Gill
No, I'm saying if the three teams win. That I just said, Mikey. Yeah. It would be the Steelers.
Mikey A
Right. They would get the Steelers.
Billy Gill
So it would be Ravens, Bills, Steelers and Chiefs. Steelers at Kansas City. And then the. The Chiefs would play the winner of the Ravens and Bills in Buffalo. Oh, God. I'm just. I'm trying to figure out where it is that Lamar Jackson's gonna lose. And it's the second round.
Mikey A
I think you just did. I think you just did.
Billy Gill
Yes. I just nailed it. Yes.
Mikey A
All right. In the nfc, if the season ended today, the Green bay Packers, the 11 and 5 Green Bay packers would be facing the 13 and 3 Philadelphia Eagles.
Stugots
Jalen hurts, healthy.
Billy Gill
Well, if the season ended today, he.
Stugots
Wouldn'T be the season. Neither is Kenny. Neither is Kenny Pickett.
Mikey A
Neither is Kenny Pickett.
Stugots
Wow.
Billy Gill
So if the season ended today, the Eagles, who would be their quarterback?
Stugots
Yep. Packers had me yesterday. Packers had me a little concerned yesterday.
Billy Gill
They came back.
Stugots
They came back, but I don't know.
Billy Gill
They came back. Sam Darnold ended that game. I mean, because he's good now. Because he's good now.
Mikey A
Because he's not on the Jets.
Billy Gill
He will be again.
Mikey A
So. So.
Stugots
Eagles.
Mikey A
Packers.
Stugots
It's a great game. It's not if Tanner McKee is your quarterback. It is not.
Billy Gill
Okay. If the season ends today, Tanner would be your quarterback.
Stugots
Yeah.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Stugots
All right. Did you see? Did you see? They threw Tanner's first touchdown into the crowd and then they had to do some negotiating.
Mikey A
Yeah.
Billy Gill
Good thing for the Eagles the season doesn't end today. But if Big Dom.
Stugots
Big Dom got that ball back. Good to see him back in the mix.
Billy Gill
The NFC is going to be fun, huh?
Stugots
We'll see.
Mikey A
Let's go to the next game. If the season ended today.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Mikey A
The 11 win Washington Commanders would be going to the Rams. The 10 and 6 Rams would host the 11 and 5 Commanders. Wow.
Billy Gill
Two teams you don't want to see come playoff time is.
Stugots
Are they.
Billy Gill
No one wants to play the Rams, and no one wants to play Jaden Daniels.
Stugots
Okay.
Billy Gill
See that play last night, it looked like he, like, almost snapped his knee in half. And you guys see that?
Mikey A
He was fine.
Billy Gill
He was. He got up. He goes, now I'm fine. Everyone. The whole stadium was concerned. Coaches freaking out. Terry McLaurin walked over. He's like a good guy. Stop. Enough. Knock it off. Went on to have a great game. I love Jaden Daniels. Yeah.
Mikey A
Are you ready?
Stugots
Yeah.
Mikey A
Next one.
Billy Gill
All right.
Mikey A
If the season ended today, mind you, this one is very much up in the air. Very much up in the air. This is the biggest one up in the air. But if the season ended today, the 132 Detroit Lions would be traveling to the 9 and 7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Stugots
Wow.
Mikey A
Circle of trust. Give me the bucks.
Stugots
Oh, shut up.
Billy Gill
Circle of trust.
Mikey A
Circle of trust. In that game. Give me the bucks.
Billy Gill
Circle of trust.
Stugots
Same. Oh, you guys are insane. You guys are crazy.
Billy Gill
You like the Lions, huh?
Stugots
That. That. That. What I. You know what I like in that game? The over. 150%. I like the over in that game.
Billy Gill
You should already put it on the big board.
Mikey A
Goff on grass home. Baker.
Billy Gill
Oh, my God. Have the bucks. I'll do the adjusted line. Bucks win by 21.
Stugots
Wow. Buy it up.
Billy Gill
Take the bucks.
Mikey A
Minus 19i.
Billy Gill
Baker winning the Super Bowl.
Mikey A
Circle of trust. Circle of trust. God bless football.
Billy Gill
God bless.
Stugots
God bless football. Water damage is no joke.
Billy Gill
Did you know that water damage makes.
Stugots
Up more than 25% of all home insurance claims?
Billy Gill
And the average claim costs over $13,000.
Stugots
Don't let a small leak turn into a big expense.
Billy Gill
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode GBF- Monday Hangover: Circle of Trust and Agendas
Release Date: December 30, 2024
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
In the episode titled "Monday Hangover: Circle of Trust and Agendas," Dan Le Batard and Stugotz dive deep into the tumultuous world of sports, predominantly focusing on the NFL and college football playoffs. The conversation is lively, filled with insightful analysis, humorous banter, and candid opinions on team performances and playoff implications.
The hosts kick off the discussion by analyzing the current state of the NFL playoffs, emphasizing the roles of the Kansas City Chiefs and the Miami Dolphins. Stugotz initiates the conversation with skepticism about the Dolphins' playoff prospects:
Stugotz [03:09]: "The Dolphins are playing the Jets. The Jets, it's a must lose for them."
Billy Gill interjects, suggesting that the Dolphins might also be out of the playoffs:
Billy Gill [03:13]: "I could tell you that the Dolphins are out of the playoffs as well."
The debate intensifies as they discuss quarterback performances and team agendas. Stugotz criticizes quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers and Tyrod Taylor for not prioritizing team success:
Stugotz [03:45]: "Aaron Rodgers understood the assignment yesterday. Aaron Rodgers said, 'We need to lose this game,' and then they took him out because it was close."
Billy counters by discussing the unpredictability of game outcomes and the potential for teams like the Denver Broncos to influence playoff spots.
A significant portion of the conversation centers around key players like Joe Burrow, Drew Lock, and Baker Mayfield. Stugotz expresses doubt about Joe Burrow making the playoffs:
Stugotz [07:22]: "It honestly feels like no one wants to get the final playoff spot in the AFC, except Joe Burrow."
Mikey A adds to the discussion by highlighting Baker Mayfield's strong performance:
Mikey A [05:48]: "Baker Mayfield threw five touchdowns and I think most of them were inside the five."
They also touch upon the potential trade value of quarterbacks, debating whether Sam Darnold should remain with his team or be part of a trade.
Transitioning to college football, the hosts express mixed feelings about the expanded 12-team playoff system. Billy Gill voices his frustration with certain matchups:
Billy Gill [22:39]: "Arizona State is absurd. I'm sorry."
Mikey A suggests a more straightforward seeding approach:
Mikey A [22:55]: "The problem is you got to seed them the right way. Just seed them 1 to 12."
Stugotz adds a humorous take on the inclusion of teams like Boise State and Arizona State, questioning their merit in the playoff:
Stugotz [23:24]: "Boise State, you have a blue field and you had one moment in a bowl game 15 years ago that anyone remembers."
The conversation shifts to the merits of established college football programs. Stugotz humorously suggests that Nick Saban should be the commissioner of college football, underscoring his admiration for traditional coaching excellence:
Stugotz [25:17]: "Nick Saban should be commissioner of college football."
The hosts delve into the ongoing MVP race, with a particular focus on Josh Allen and Sam Darnold. Stugotz critiques the over-praise of Allen for a single play:
Stugotz [16:27]: "All of us here... lying to the trainers. That's exactly what you do."
Billy defends Allen's leadership qualities, while Mikey A brings Sam Darnold into the conversation, advocating for his inclusion in the MVP discussions:
Mikey A [18:08]: "Sam Darnold should be in the conversation. That's all I'm saying."
The latter part of the episode focuses on "Big Board Bets," where the hosts share their predictions and wagers on upcoming games. Stugotz outlines his picks, emphasizing the Lions' necessity to win their game:
Stugotz [36:34]: "The Lions minus three and a half tonight. Must win game today for the Lions."
Billy Gill and Mikey A contribute their own predictions, including opinions on quarterbacks like Brock Purdy and Carson Wentz. The conversation highlights the strategic aspects of betting on team performances and individual player stats.
Throughout the episode, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engage in humorous exchanges, poking fun at each other's betting strategies and team preferences. For instance, when discussing the Pop Tarts Bowl, Stugotz delivers a satirical recap of the event:
Stugotz [27:16]: "They threw Tanner's first touchdown into the crowd and then they had to do some negotiating."
This blend of humor and sports analysis keeps the conversation engaging and entertaining for listeners.
In "Monday Hangover: Circle of Trust and Agendas," Dan Le Batard and Stugotz provide a comprehensive and entertaining analysis of the NFL and college football playoff landscapes. Through a mix of insightful commentary, humorous banter, and strategic betting predictions, the hosts offer a compelling narrative for sports enthusiasts eager to understand the complexities and dynamics of the current sports season.
Stugotz [46:51]: "Circle of trust. God bless football."
The episode wraps up with light-hearted farewells and a final nod to the enduring passion for football, encapsulating the essence of the show as a hub for original and engaging sports content.
Note: All timestamps correspond to the moments when notable quotes were made during the episode.