GBF- Monday Hangover: Good Loss

Summary

Podcast Summary: GBF- Monday Hangover: Good Loss The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: November 18, 2024
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mikey, Mike, Lucy, Billy, Fuentes

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1. NFL Weekend Recap

The hosts dive into the highlights and disappointments of the recent NFL weekend, focusing primarily on Joe Burrow's performance and the implications for his team.

• Joe Burrow's Impact on Sunday Night Football:
  Mike: "Not mad at Joe Burrow, but Joe Burrow made Sunday Night Football a very exciting game." [02:51]
  The discussion centers on Burrow transforming an initially unexciting game into a competitive match, which, despite his efforts, resulted in a loss. Billy expresses frustration over Burrow keeping him up late watching the game:
  Mike: "It's like a really late Sunday night game... And they were like starting the fourth quarter, I don't know, took so long." [03:22]

• Bengals' Defensive Struggles:
  The conversation shifts to the Bengals' defense, highlighting their vulnerability despite improving offensive plays.
  Mikey: "They would have 18 seconds left." [04:18]
  Mike: "But regardless, most people now would tell you slide, do not go into the end zone because you don't want to." [04:27]

2. Fantasy Football Insights

The hosts provide their fantasy football analyses, discussing player performances and strategic decisions.

• Taysom Hill's Inconsistency:
  Fuentes: "Taysom Hill should not have the stats he had as the tight end." [10:44]
  Mikey: "He won't do this again." [11:14]
  The inconsistency of Hill's performance makes him a risky pick for fantasy teams, as his high variability can lead to unpredictable outcomes.

• Dolphins' Emerging Talent - John Newman Smith:
  Mike: "Johnny Smith is living in the world where he's still relatively affordable. And if you're watching the Dolphins... you're finding something here with John New Smith." [12:06]
  The Dolphins are developing newcomers like John Newman Smith, making them valuable assets for fantasy teams due to their rising performance.

3. College Football Conference Standings and Playoff Implications

A detailed discussion on the precarious standings of various college football conferences and their impact on the College Football Playoff.

• ACC's Uncertain Championship Scenario:
  Dan: "I have no clue how any of these conference championship games work." [28:26]
  The ACC faces confusion over its championship contenders due to the lack of head-to-head matchups among top teams like Clemson, Miami, and SMU.

• Big Ten's Dominance Amidst Conference Chaos:
  Dan: "The Big Ten is the only conference that made sense and they have four out of the top five teams in the AP." [28:52]
  The Big Ten stands out as the most organized conference amidst the turmoil in others, bolstering its teams' chances in the playoffs.

• Indiana vs. Ohio State Playoff Implications:
  Mikey: "If they lose by less than 10 points, they're fine." [31:58]
  The Indiana-Ohio State game is critical, with the margin of loss influencing Indiana's playoff chances. The hosts debate strategic game-ending decisions that could impact playoff berths.

4. Travel Experiences: Athens Trip

Dan shares his recent trip to Athens, providing anecdotes and observations about the college town atmosphere and game day experiences.

• Tailgating Challenges:
  Dan: "The campus is so, so wide that the tailgating is very spread out." [24:25]
  Despite Athens having the most bars per capita, leading to reduced tailgating enthusiasm as attendees prefer bar activities over traditional game day preparations.

• Game Day Atmosphere:
  Dan: "The game ended up being really good, but super fun." [25:40]
  Positive reflections on the competitive game and the vibrant fan interactions, especially noting the spirited reactions from Georgia fans.

5. Coaching and Player Performances

The hosts critique coaching decisions and player performances across both NFL and college football.

• Baltimore Ravens' Inconsistencies:
  Mike: "Their defense hasn't been good this year." [07:49]
  Despite having a strong quarterback, the Ravens' inconsistent defense undermines their playoff potential.

• LSU's Coaching Concerns:
  Dan: "Brian Kelly is going to be sort of in the slightly more likable James Franklin realm for me." [37:24]
  Criticism of LSU's head coach Brian Kelly, highlighting his inability to lead the team to higher achievements despite available resources.

• Shane Steichen's Coaching Style:
  Stugotz: "He turns Justin Herbert into a game manager and that's great for them." [52:14]
  Praise for Michigan's coach Jim Harbaugh for effectively managing quarterback Justin Herbert's role, enhancing team performance.

6. Breaking News Highlights

The hosts share immediate updates and rumors affecting the NFL landscape.

• Daniel Jones' Future with the Giants:
  Fuentes: "The Daniel Jones era in New York is likely over." [41:10]
  Reports suggest that Daniel Jones will be benched in favor of Tommy DeVito, indicating significant changes for the New York Giants.

• Pop Tart Bowl Mascot Addition:
  Stugotz: "The Pop Tart bowl will now have three mascots this year." [41:50]
  A humorous take on the introduction of multiple mascots for the Pop Tart Bowl, adding a quirky element to the event.

7. Special Segments and Apologies

The hosts engage in lighthearted segments and address internal conflicts within the show.

• Apology to Mike Fuentes:
  Mike: "I want to apologize on behalf of Stugotts and Lucy and Mikey." [25:46]
  An on-air apology is made to producer Mike Fuentes for earlier negative remarks, aiming to maintain a positive show atmosphere.

• Lucy or Goosey Segment:
  A recurring segment where Lucy provides updates on college football topics, occasionally interrupted by humorous interactions and host banter.

8. Closing Remarks and Sponsor Messages

While advertisements were present in the transcript, the summary focuses solely on content discussions, omitting sponsor mentions as per instructions.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Mike: "Not mad at Joe Burrow, but Joe Burrow made Sunday Night Football a very exciting game." [02:51]

• Fuentes: "Taysom Hill should not have the stats he had as the tight end." [10:44]

• Mikey: "If they lose by less than 10 points, they're fine." [31:58]

• Mike: "I want to apologize on behalf of Stugotts and Lucy and Mikey." [25:46]

• Dan: "Brian Kelly is going to be sort of in the slightly more likable James Franklin realm for me." [37:24]

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges from the episode, providing a clear overview for those who haven't listened.

Transcript

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[Mikey]

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[Stugotz]

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[Mikey]

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[Dan]

Whoa.

[Mike]

The Energizer bunny's got so much power.

[Lucy]

Wait, he's powered up all the toys?

[Dan]

I think that means we're done for the year. I love this buddy.

[Mikey]

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[Mike]

God bless football. Mikey.

[Mikey]

Eh, God bless football.

[Fuentes]

Fuentes.

[Stugotz]

God bless football. Stig.

[Mikey]

Good decision. You were thinking about it, Mikey. I could tell you were thinking about it. Yeah, it was a great weekend in the NFL. It really was. Billy has two teams he doesn't trust after this weekend. He's mad at Joe Burrow. Let's start there. Why are you mad at Joe Burrow? What happened?

[Mike]

Not mad at Joe Burrow, but Joe Burrow made Sunday Night Football a very exciting game. Yeah, when at the beginning, it wasn't a very exciting game.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Mike]

And you know, some people sometimes on Sunday nights, especially if, and you know, maybe, maybe possibly under the weather. So you know what? All right, be an early night, get rested up for tomorrow, we'll be good to go. Gbf.

[Mikey]

Yep.

[Mike]

And, and then he decided, you know what, I want to make this a competitive game.

[Mikey]

Uh huh.

[Mike]

And still lost, by the way.

[Mikey]

He did? Yes. But you're mad at him for keeping you up later than you had to stay up also.

[Mike]

It's like a really late Sunday night game. It was like 11, it was like 1120. And they were like starting the fourth quarter, I don't know, took so long. I mean, I guess all the scoring.

[Fuentes]

Billy, what's your threshold there? Like, what's your threshold where you're like, you know what, I can turn this off and go to bed. I don't need to watch the rest of this.

[Mike]

I mean, in the first half it wasn't a close game. Right. So I, I felt fairly comfortable in seeing the score and saying, you know what, I, I think, I think that I can go to bed. It was like 24 to 6 and.

[Mikey]

I'm like, okay, it was 24 to 6 at halftime. I was thinking the same thing. I actually went to bed.

[Mike]

Did you?

[Mikey]

Yes.

[Mike]

You missed a great comeback.

[Mikey]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah. J.K. dobbins almost come back.

[Fuentes]

Almost come back?

[Mike]

Well, I mean they came back and they tied it.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Mike]

And then J.K. dobbins did the thing. What would you do there? Because like I, I, I would be J.K. dobbins. I mean, I wouldn't. Cuz I'm not as talented. Right, right. But like, I'm sure that when that happened, because the Bengals still had time, it was like 15 seconds or 12 seconds or something.

[Mikey]

They would have 18 seconds left.

[Mike]

Yeah. But regardless, most people now would tell you slide, do not go into the end zone because you don't want to.

[Mikey]

Give Joe Barrow a chance to come back down.

[Mike]

Because you could slide at the two yard line and then kick a field goal. Even though we've seen the last two weeks and we'll get to it a little bit later. Field goals blocked at the end of the game.

[Mikey]

Yes. Walk off block field goals.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Two weeks in a row.

[Mike]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Fuentes]

Not to mention a lot of easy missed chip shots yesterday. It was something going on with kickers yesterday. I think Dobbins made the right call. Go ahead and take the 6.

[Mikey]

We'll take the 6, which becomes 7 with the extra point. There's no way you can lose the game. You could just go to Overton.

[Mike]

I don't know. I don't know how his contract is structured, but I would say always take the six. If you're at a skill position, always take the touchdowns, always take the points.

[Mikey]

I think because of the injuries with J.K. dobbins, he's on a series of one year contracts. Like, I don't think anyone's extending him longer than a year.

[Mike]

You know, take all of the touchdowns.

[Mikey]

Well, he did. He took his touchdown. He got his touchdown.

[Mike]

He got two yesterday.

[Mikey]

Yeah. Steelers, Ravens. That's football, huh? I mean, that was amazing. What a day. Steelers, Ravens, Bills and Chiefs. What do you mean? Eh. I love an 1816 game. You don't.

[Mike]

All right.

[Fuentes]

No, no, really.

[Mike]

Can we play really quick? A game of winners and losers presented by smearing off the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly.

[Mikey]

Sure. Wow.

[Fuentes]

You really want to get into it. Let's go.

[Mikey]

Amazing. I wanted to talk Steelers and Ravens. It was a great game.

[Fuentes]

Well, apparently his winner or loser.

[Mikey]

Oh, okay.

[Mike]

Hey, spoiler alert.

[Mikey]

And by the way, the Chargers Sims and I said it last week. Sneaky. Good.

[Mike]

We'll get to them.

[Mikey]

All right. Sorry.

[Mike]

Winners and losers presented by smirnoff, the world's 1 number 1 vodka. Please drink responsibly. All right, we don't have to do them all now. This is just a real quick one because we got to it right away.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Losers.

[Mikey]

Yep.

[Mike]

The Ravens and the Steelers. I no longer have faith in the Ravens or the Steelers and I'll tell you why.

[Mikey]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah. This is the second win of the season the Steelers have where they've only kicked field goals.

[Mikey]

Yeah, but I.

[Mike]

That's not going to do anything for you in the playoffs. I would argue go on a run that way.

[Mikey]

I would argue when Mike Tomlin is kicking field goals and not scoring touchdowns, he's got you right where he wants you.

[Mike]

I mean, okay, you just want to say that I did. We had someone. I have something. I have something to throw out to you guys.

[Mikey]

And I don't know if you guys giving him ammunition.

[Mike]

I don't know if you guys have winners and losers that you want to share also that we can get to. But someone sent this to us on Twitter and I kind of like this idea. So I want to run it by you guys.

[Mikey]

Okay.

[Mike]

Field goals don't count until you score a touchdown. So like you can have kicked all the field goals. You can have the 18 points, bank them, but they don't count. Until you get a touchdown. So you have like 18 points there that are unassigned, that are banked. Once you score the touchdown.

[Mikey]

It becomes 25.

[Mike]

It becomes 20.

[Stugotz]

25 point play.

[Mikey]

I like that.

[Stugotz]

I like that.

[Mikey]

Yeah, it's a good idea. The team's never safe banking field goals. Great. I mean, perhaps the jets would have won more games if. If that was an actual rule. We banked a lot of field goals.

[Mike]

You got to score touchdowns.

[Mikey]

Right. You have to score a touchdown. That's a good point.

[Mike]

You also had a terrible kicker, by the way.

[Mikey]

It was our fourth kicker in four weeks.

[Mike]

No, I'm saying you sirline terrible.

[Fuentes]

Good.

[Mikey]

Yeah. No, he was the best. I miss him.

[Mike]

I don't. I don't trust the Ravens. Losing a game like I. I wanted to. I always want to trust the Ravens. And something always happens where I'm like, I cannot trust the Ravens. And it's not just this. It's like the four losses already. They're not super dominating.

[Mikey]

No.

[Mike]

And they're losing a game where they don't give up a touchdown. And they're defense, that's probably one of their better defensive performances of the year. Their defense hasn't been good this year. They didn't allow a touchdown. But you still lose the game.

[Mikey]

I mean, that's the problem with the Baltimore Ravens is that you just don't trust them against that particular team, the Steelers, because they haven't been good. Lamar has not been good against the Steelers, and you don't trust them in the postseason in a big spot.

[Mike]

I don't understand. They have such a great offense.

[Mikey]

They did. They have a great quarterback. They have the best quarterback in the NFL right now.

[Mike]

So why do they struggle against teams like the Steelers?

[Mikey]

I don't know.

[Mike]

I mean, the Steelers have a good defense, but still.

[Mikey]

I don't know. It's a great question. I do not know. Lamar Jackson is not the same quarterback against the Steelers and against some of the better teams than he is against everyone else. And there are numbers to back that up, by the way. According this is on Twitter @NFL on CBS. The Steelers record in a game in which they have scored no touchdowns this season. They're 2 and A. Yeah, he's got you right where he wants you. I'm telling you. Two and out. I don't. Mike, do you have a theory on what happens to Lamar Jackson when he plays against the Steelers? And in some of these bigger games like last year AFC championship game at home, it was sitting there for the taking. And he loses The Kansas City.

[Fuentes]

I think it's one of those, like, not to go back to the jets, but, like, the jets can't be Jacoby Brissett. And the problem is for Lamar, the Steelers just happen to be their most hated rival.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Fuentes]

Like, it's just one of those, hey, we got your number. There's nothing you could do about it.

[Mikey]

Yeah, that's got to be infuriating for John Harbaugh. Like, he's got the. He's got the mvp. He's got the best quarterback of the NFL. He's got a good team. There are times when people said, myself included, by the way, Ravens, best team in the NFL. And Tomlin is strolling out there with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields late in the game and beating Lamar Jackson.

[Mike]

They just.

[Mikey]

That's infuriating.

[Mike]

They have dumb losses this year. They lost to the Browns. They lost the Raiders. The Chiefs game was the one that we were at that. That one they lost because the foot was out. But like the other games, you should be beating the Raiders, you should be beating the Browns. And now you're going to go up against the Chargers. The Chargers are a good team.

[Mikey]

The Chargers are a very good team.

[Mike]

Eagles are a good team.

[Mikey]

Eagles are a very good team.

[Mike]

Chargers, Eagles, couple of Harbaughs coming up. You could be looking at 7 and 6. Potentially.

[Mikey]

Yes. Yeah. No question about it. In the post game presser, someone asked Mike Tomlin what his reaction would have been pregame if he'd been told they would beat the Ravens without scoring a touchdown. He shrugged and spitted him. Sort of.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Steelers, Ravens.

[Fuentes]

I could hear him saying it.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

But I can hear him saying it's not wrong. Right.

[Mikey]

He's not wrong at all. Mikey, do you have any winners or losers here? We need the music back because I have. I have. I have a winner and a loser.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Fuentes]

Yeah, I. I do have a loser. I have a loser.

[Mikey]

Hold on. Wait for the music. There it is.

[Fuentes]

Oh, I'm sorry. The fantasy football tight end position. Taysom Hill should not have the stats he had as the tight end.

[Mike]

Agree.

[Fuentes]

Seven carries for 138 yards to go along with eight catches for 50 yards. Like those aren't tight end numbers. I really get that out of here. Like, he. They need to have a separate till category.

[Mikey]

Yeah. In fantasy football, they have.

[Stugotz]

If you didn't own Taysom Hill already and start him this week. Don't pick him up. He has one.

[Mikey]

Don't pick him up. He won't do this again.

[Stugotz]

One of these a year I'm sorry you've missed it this year. Better luck next season.

[Mikey]

You missed the game this year.

[Stugotz]

Missed the taste of hell game.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Mike]

That's why I hate him. Because you always know that he has one of these in him.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And then if you are in a contest, like our fantasy weekly contest presented by smearing off the world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. You see him and you're like, wow, I can get Taysom hill for like $4,100 or something like that.

[Mikey]

Right, right.

[Mike]

And he'll get you 97 billion fantasy points or he'll get you 0.34. And it's like, I cannot rely on T. Hill week to week. So you have to get lucky enough to get him the week that he does that. Now, gang, this week, I was not lucky enough to get him in our weekly fantasy contest.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Mike]

Smearing off the world's number one vodka. You were not, huh? I was not. I did get John New Smith, though.

[Mikey]

Oh, wow.

[Mike]

Nice. 30 something. Yeah. Johnny Smith is living in the world where he's still relatively affordable. And if you're watching the Dolphins, which, outside of Miami, I don't know why you would be watching the Dolphins, but if you're watching the Dolphins, you can see they're getting comfortable and they're finding something here with John New Smith.

[Mikey]

Agreed.

[Stugotz]

Wide receiver, too.

[Mike]

He's becoming their guy.

[Mikey]

He is.

[Mike]

Because you can't depend on waddle. He drops the ball way too much. Hill kind of has been taken out of the picture, largely.

[Mikey]

He was good yesterday. He had seven catches, 81 yards and a touchdown.

[Mike]

I. Yeah, I mean, it's better not.

[Fuentes]

Tyree Kill number.

[Mikey]

No, I. I understand that. The Dolphins will take that compared to what he's given them in the last four or five weeks, which is nothing.

[Mike]

He's getting a lot of, like, three yard, four yard, seven yard, like, plays on third and like, three to get him the first.

[Stugotz]

That's how it has to be. Like, they've figured out their offense. You put the safety over the top. He's not going to beat you long. So you have to adjust how you play with him. So that's. That's going to be him from now on. Yeah.

[Mikey]

Jonah Smith, 8 catches, 101 yards, 2 touchdowns.

[Mike]

Career Day for him. Yeah, I finished. I finished in, like 100, like, 80th place. Not. Not in the money, but I'm headed in the right direction.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

For me, Tua was one of my winners. How about that?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Why, why, why are you making that sound.

[Mike]

Well, because I. Unfortunately, especially when we're talking about our fantasy thing, I go back to who it is that I wanted to take and who it is that I ended up taking because I have a loser and that's the person that I took.

[Mikey]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Do you need the music?

[Mikey]

You need it.

[Mike]

We don't. We don't need it.

[Stugotz]

I mean, do you want it?

[Mikey]

I want it.

[Mike]

It was Russell Wilson.

[Mikey]

Wow. Free music.

[Stugotz]

I mean, the train's on the tracks.

[Mikey]

Say it again with the music. Just now. Say.

[Mike]

All right. Another one of my losers this week. Russell Wilson.

[Mikey]

Whoa.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Has a greater impact.

[Mike]

Just not impressed by him.

[Mikey]

Yesterday Tua was a winner for me. Just because that Dolphin offense and that Dolphin team is so much better when Tua is healthy. I mean, three touchdowns, no interceptions. He has played great since he's come.

[Stugotz]

Back, I gotta say. Sneaky. Best serious career so far.

[Mike]

Yesterday. Yesterday was a weird Dolphins game.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

In that, like, it wasn't like the, like, it wasn't like the fast scoring, action packed thing. They scored essentially every time they had the ball. They didn't do it like right before the half. They had a little bit. They ran out the clock and I think they didn't do it the, like the last possession of the game, but they scored every other time they had the ball. But they were going on like long, eight, nine minute drives and they were just boom, boom, boom, Here, here. We're going to keep driving. We're going to score a touchdown, which is not the Dolphins offense that we're accustomed to, which is just like quick strikes, flashy plays. They were just meticulously cutting them apart yesterday.

[Mikey]

They didn't have a single punt. I didn't punt once the entire game. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

I have a question.

[Fuentes]

It's a nice paycheck.

[Stugotz]

Should the punter. Yeah, exactly. Should the punter be paid?

[Mike]

Huh?

[Mikey]

If he doesn't have to punt? Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Didn't work.

[Mike]

Huh.

[Mikey]

Huh?

[Stugotz]

I show up here, do nothing. There's questions asked.

[Mike]

Well, you'd get paid regardless, I think.

[Mikey]

Should the punters be on the payroll?

[Mike]

You do.

[Mikey]

I mean, exactly. Should it count? Should a punter count against your cat?

[Stugotz]

That's what I'm saying. I mean, he didn't do anything.

[Mike]

Huh?

[Fuentes]

How about this? You get paid per punt. You watch. You watch certain teams get their pick of the litter when it comes to punter.

[Mike]

Well, hold on.

[Fuentes]

Yeah, I would love to go there.

[Mikey]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

Per punter, per yard of punts. Like a fraction.

[Mikey]

Now, Mikey saying you get paid per punt and the punters would be sprinting to teams like the Browns and the Jets.

[Mike]

Can I give. Can I give you one last winner in winners and losers presented the world's number one vodka. And this is. You know, this is just out of left field, but because we're talking about punters, I thought it was funny. I saw stat yesterday. Winner Corey Taylor. Punter.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Of the Chicago Bears.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Mike]

Who was texted when drafted by Caleb Williams. We're not going to need you very much this year.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Torrey Taylor has more punt yards than Caleb Williams has pass yards on the season.

[Mikey]

Punter is the winner. Caleb the loser. Yep. Right.

[Stugotz]

Call him back.

[Mikey]

Bo Nix is winning this rookie quarterback thing, huh?

[Mike]

Shame. He. He's a late entrant, but he seems to be really pushing for it here.

[Mikey]

I would say Bo Nicks. I would say Bo Nicks. Drake May, the thought of Michael Penix are all ahead of Caleb Williams. I mean, Jaden Daniels is falling, though.

[Mike]

I will tell you that Michael Penn got in yesterday.

[Mikey]

Did he?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

What do you do?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Fuentes]

A little garbage time.

[Mikey]

Little garbage time.

[Mike]

Garbage time. Stuff. I mean, nothing garbage. Big.

[Mikey]

But how do you look in the uniform? Because that's important.

[Mike]

I mean, he looks great in the uniform. Yeah.

[Mikey]

Really? All right, well, then he's had a better season than Caleb.

[Mike]

I mean, 2 of 4, 24 yards.

[Mikey]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

What'd you make of the Chiefs Bills game?

[Mike]

It's fun, man. It lived up to the hype.

[Mikey]

It did.

[Mike]

It was one of those that I. That I was worried wasn't going to, but it did. Josh Allen.

[Stugotz]

I was worried at halftime. I was only 14, 16. I was like, oh, you'll stinker.

[Mikey]

And.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Exploded in the second half.

[Mikey]

Bad loss for the Bills. I mean, bad win for the Bills. Excuse me.

[Mike]

I don't know why you're saying that. You were saying that before the show.

[Mikey]

Well, because they're four and one against them in the regular season. They never beat them in the postseason. The Bills were acting like they won a Super bowl yesterday. They did not. They won a regular season game. That still doesn't give them home field advantage.

[Fuentes]

I mean, that was their Super Bowl.

[Mike]

So here's the thing. That is their super bowl every regular season, and they win it. They're undefeated in the super bowl against the Chiefs in the regular season. Not undefeated, but they've been dominating the Chiefs in the regular season the past couple of times they played them. And then when you see them in the postseason, it's a completely different story. Little game of cat and mouse. I Think that's being played by the Chiefs. You know what I mean?

[Mikey]

Yeah. Yep.

[Mike]

You let them think. Here we go.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Nope. Yeah, Mikey. Well said. Great loss by the Chiefs.

[Mikey]

Great loss by the Chiefs. Yes. Yes. That's the lose. That will ultimately. That's the loss. Excuse me. That will ultimately make the Chiefs win.

[Mike]

You think Josh Allen really was able to scramble like 25 yards there at the end. They just say they spag said, hey, go, go lay up a little bit.

[Mikey]

Yeah, this is good loss. Right?

[Mike]

And then now, now they know.

[Mikey]

Let them think they're better than us.

[Mike]

Coming up, coming playoffs.

[Fuentes]

We need this one.

[Mike]

They're gonna draw guys old Joshi there on a fourth and two when they really need it. Not when they're winning when they're trailing. Yeah, you're gonna be stuffed.

[Mikey]

You think Spag, you think what happened? It worked last time.

[Fuentes]

It worked in the regular season.

[Mike]

She dropped the 25 yard touchdown run again here.

[Mikey]

So guys have Spags telling his defense to let Josh Allen score in that spot a little bit. Right, Josh?

[Fuentes]

I don't think he has to tell him. He has them so well trained. Like. I got you.

[Mike]

They went over that scenario in the meetings. Yes, Because Spags is so prepared that they knew in this.

[Fuentes]

That's day one install stuff.

[Mike]

Exactly right. I feel bad because Josh Allen is so good and I feel like we're never going to give him credit until.

[Mikey]

He does it in the playoffs. We do not forget about college football here. Lucy will join us next.

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[Mike]

Guys.

[Mikey]

Yes.

[Mike]

It's time for my favorite segment of the week.

[Mikey]

Which is.

[Mike]

It's a segment where you bring in Lucy to tell us about what happened in college football. By the way, and it's presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company in New York. New York. Something's happening here that I Don't like behind the scenes. And I don't know how to solve this problem, but I don't like it.

[Mikey]

Okay?

[Mike]

And this is confronted head on. This is what's going on. You know what? That's what we're going to do, Mikey. We're going to have this meeting on air, all right? Because I don't like the way that things are being done. Just before we start the segment, Lucy joins us. Hi, Lucy. How are you? Welcome.

[Dan]

I'm all right.

[Mike]

So Lucy joins us and she seems excited about her trip. And then she'll just tell us little things that happen on the trip. Like, oh, Athens is great. I love Athens so much. You know, I walked a little bit, whatever, right? And old doom and gloom over here. Mike Fuentes, like, you sound like you're miserable every single trip. You sound like you hate traveling. You sound like you hate trip. You sound like you hate your job. You sound like your life. Sound like you hate football.

[Dan]

Absolutely did.

[Mike]

Thank you.

[Mikey]

I heard it.

[Stugotz]

I mean, no, she comes because. Because she always goes, Athens, great. It's great. And then somebody comes bombing in with. There's a lot of walking and the parking sucked and there's people with, you know.

[Mikey]

Well, that was Mikey A. Who went to Athens and hated it.

[Stugotz]

But somehow this is on me. Right? Brought up the negative stuff.

[Mike]

Yes, Correct.

[Fuentes]

All I said was it was very hilly.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Fuentes]

I don't know what else. I don't know what else you heard to make you think, like, it wasn't a great time.

[Mikey]

You said you need a hiking stick.

[Dan]

My calves hurt.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. And then her calves hurt. You can't park anywhere.

[Mike]

But that's.

[Dan]

And they did. And it was hard to park. Oh, my God. That's the end of the world. Everything is miserable. I am such a mean person.

[Stugotz]

Lucy, when you get to 40.

[Dan]

Delightful.

[Stugotz]

When you get to 40. When you get to 40, you understand how bad parking is. You need good parking.

[Mikey]

Right? Right.

[Stugotz]

Stu knows what's up.

[Mikey]

40. Yeah.

[Fuentes]

Lucy, can I. Can I give you a parking hack?

[Dan]

Yes, please. I'd like it. I'm. I'm a little frustrated.

[Mike]

Yeah. Like, Lucy comes on and in part, in part, Lucy comes on because, like, she really, like, lightens up the mood and she makes us happy and then enjoy.

[Mikey]

She's a ray of sunshine. It's 7:30 in the morning.

[Mike]

Positive infusion that we need around here.

[Mikey]

Or 4:45.

[Dan]

And then, you know how late I get back on Sundays. I'm very sleepy. I would have loved to sleep in, but no, I like being on this show and being happy. And now I'm furious.

[Mike]

Listen, listen, listen, Lucy. And for everyone, set the record straight. We don't want Mike Fuentes talking. He just turns on his mic and he just does these things to come and bring down the mood.

[Mikey]

Yeah, it's never been discussed. He just started turning the mic like.

[Mike]

I have a top five. We're like, okay, let's do it. All right. You know, and then it's usually like top five things about the world that I hate. And it's like, geez, Mike Fuentes, calm down, buddy. Like, college football is fun.

[Mikey]

Yeah. Fuentes. What's the problem here?

[Stugotz]

What's what?

[Mikey]

What's the matter? You have an object. He's mad at us.

[Mike]

This happened since he. Look, not to. Not to delve too deep into the Mike Fuentes world, but this happened since his trip to Japan got canceled. Oh, I'm not going to say it.

[Mikey]

He just pushed the mic away. I mean, Jesus, Billy, he's going to get attacked. Football. Fuentes.

[Mike]

He was going to get attack and he couldn't get his taxi.

[Dan]

I take it all back.

[Mike]

You got his earring for nothing.

[Mikey]

All right, hold on a second. Let's get to Mikey A's parking hack here for Lucy.

[Mike]

He's so mad at me right now.

[Mikey]

Sorry. Wait, are you mad at me or just. Are you mad at all of us or just Billy?

[Mike]

He's not going to talk.

[Mikey]

Don't, don't, don't do the passive aggressive thing, okay?

[Mike]

Come on, we want to hear name names. Who are you mad at?

[Mikey]

Come on.

[Mike]

Oh, wow. Now he's being difficult.

[Mikey]

He's not going to do it. He's ignoring us. He's our producer. What's the barking hack, Mikey?

[Fuentes]

They don't tow when meters expire. And it's only a $25 ticket.

[Dan]

Oh, well, I probably shouldn't say this. I didn't get a parking ticket while I was there.

[Mike]

Wow. How much was it?

[Dan]

It was $50.

[Mike]

Oh, hack.

[Mikey]

Really rebuffed.

[Mike]

I feel like this a real life still cheaper.

[Mikey]

I think Mike's right. I think I'd eat the 50 bucks just to park in that spot though, you know?

[Mike]

Yep.

[Dan]

Well, I'm expensing it, so yeah, it doesn't matter. Not my problem.

[Mikey]

You've been to Athens before though, right? Of course you're expensing that. Yes, of course you've been to Athens, right?

[Dan]

Yes, I toured there when I was looking at colleges, but this is my first. Like Athens game day. What just a wonderful college town. I think it's my favorite, like, city we've been to. So much fun. Did you know it has the most bars per capita of any city in the country?

[Mikey]

I did.

[Dan]

For you. 87 bars to know, like a mile radius.

[Mikey]

Really?

[Dan]

Yeah. It's crazy. There's so many bars in Athens. Because of that, though, the tailgating is, like, not as great as other SEC schools because, like, the bars are so good that, like, a lot of students and people will just go to the bars, prefer games. And the campus is so, so wide that the tailgating is very spread out. And as Mikey said earlier, you. You are, like, climbing through these hills. Oh, my God, this such a hilly campus. My. My legs hurt so bad after it, but we had so much fun. It's such a good game day atmosphere. The game ended up being really good. The funny part for me was like, so we did this as fans. Thank you. Game time. We sat in the little stands, and the way that Georgia fans react is so, so funny because I would sit there, do anything to be in their position. They were, like, planning Carson Beck's demise in the stance. Just as angry as I've ever seen people in my entire life. And I'm like, carson, come on home. I'd love to have you. They don't. They don't deserve you. I would never take you for granted, ever. But Carson played much better than he has the last few weeks. So it was a really good game, but super fun. I really, really, really loved Athens. Huge fan.

[Mike]

I. I think that as a show, everyone owes Mike Fuentes an apology because in an effort to kind of.

[Mikey]

What did we do?

[Mike]

In an effort to make things better, I feel like I said, God bless football.

[Mikey]

Fuentes. Yes.

[Mike]

So I think. I think that we need to apologize to him. So I would like to apologize on behalf of Stugotts and Lucy and Mikey. A. I'm sorry for everything that was said and done to you earlier this segment. Yeah, I want to apologize for.

[Dan]

I apologize too.

[Mikey]

Yeah, I apologize.

[Mike]

Well, hurtful things were said in the name of entertainment purposes by others, by you. And I need to step in here and be the bigger person and the adult in the room and say, like, I am sorry on behalf of them.

[Stugotz]

Just let me know if you guys need a sound or something.

[Mike]

You know what? I'm hoping, actually. And we'll look into this two guys. What I'm wondering if maybe. And this is a bit of a stretch. Fuentes, so I don't know, I'm hoping that maybe we can find like a game in Japan where Football is being played, and we can convince Smirnoff to sponsor us to go there. And then we can get you to Japan.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Mike]

I mean, it's not going to be probably college or the NFL, but maybe we can find a football game happening there and then convince Smirnov, and that way we can go to Japan. You can get your tattoo and all that.

[Stugotz]

I'm going to be on strike until Smyrna sends me to Japan.

[Mikey]

Really? Lucy, you seem to have something on this.

[Dan]

There was the. Like, the World Football Championships or something. I remember that. Japan beat the United States, and I said, oh, I don't know if that should be.

[Mike]

Hold on.

[Mikey]

Really?

[Dan]

About that one timeout?

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

So there was a football tournament and Japan beat the United States.

[Dan]

I cannot remember when this was, but I saw this on Reddit. College football, Right. Japan beat the United States in some sort of football tournament.

[Mikey]

That has to be a bigger upset than United States beating Russia and hockey in 1980. I mean. Yeah, anything.

[Dan]

So that's what. So we should go see that. That Japan team, because they beat the.

[Mikey]

Okay, Fuentes, Would that make you feel better? A trip to Japan on Dan?

[Stugotz]

Yes, actually. Yeah.

[Mikey]

What right do I have to go?

[Mike]

You don't want to come to Japan?

[Mikey]

That's a long trip.

[Mike]

Really?

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Mikey]

A lot of walking, hiking stick.

[Stugotz]

Only half as long as you're a drive from Brooklyn.

[Mikey]

No, I'd get there quicker.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Anyway, I'm begging Dan to get studios in Japan.

[Mike]

So, Lucy, the Canes are no longer in the driver's seat and they need to kind of win out.

[Mikey]

Well, they have to.

[Dan]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Dan]

I. I know that I'm supposed to be your college football expert on the show, but I gotta tell you, I have no clue how any of these conference championship games work. No clue. I've tried to read it so many times. It's like when someone explains the rules of a card game to me. Just nothing going on upstairs. So I don't even know how the ACC figures out who plays because Clemson's got a conference loss, Miami's got a conference loss, SMU does not have a conference loss. And I. And I don't know how they figure out who goes into the championship game, especially as Clemson and Miami do not play head to head.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Dan]

Miami and SMU do not play head to head, and Clemson and SMU do not play head to head. So what. What do you. I. I don't know. I really have no idea. The Big 12 is also looking at something similar right now. Obviously, BYU lost this weekend Colorado seems to sort of be in the driver's seat. Arizona State is suddenly really, really good. The Big Ten is the only conference that made sense and they have four out of the top five teams in the ap. Top five. Like it doesn't. Nothing, nothing is aligning right now.

[Mike]

So the scenarios that I saw have smu, if they win at Virginia, they're in, they clinch.

[Dan]

And Virginia is not the best, but they're a lot better than they have been. Shout out Tony Elliott.

[Mike]

Then if Miami loses one of their next two games, Clemson clinches. So Miami needs to win out or they're going to miss the ACC Championship game. And should they miss the ACC championship game? I don't know that two ACC teams are going to make it into the playoffs.

[Dan]

No, they won't. They will not be there. Who's. Who's left on their schedul?

[Mikey]

Miami is Wake Forest this weekend. The game that, that Keynes fans should be worried about is they travel to Syracuse after that. I'm not saying Syracuse is going to beat them. I'm just saying Syracuse can beat Miami at home. That's all. Lucy.

[Dan]

No, exactly. I mean, it's the same sort of argument with Georgia Tech of like, Miami has played a game every single season where anyone could win. Duke could have won.

[Mike]

Ca.

[Dan]

Could have won. Like, the only game that really wasn't that close was Florid State and Florida. But Florida State was still probably closer than they should have been, right? Yeah. It's very odd that Miami has. Is in this position now. You know, you lose one game when you're in a conference that is so, so bad. Like, you should, like, it's. It is. So if I'm a Miami fan, obviously I want to make the playoff, but holy shit, if you cannot get through the ACC undefeated, which is a very hard thing to do, you do not want to run into a juggernaut like Indiana in the College Football Playoff.

[Mikey]

If you lose, we'll get to Lucy or Goosey in just a second here. But if you lose to Georgia Tech and then you have get lost to Syracuse or Wake Forest, you simply don't deserve to be in the College Football Playoff.

[Dan]

No, absolutely not. Like, two ACC losses is absurd at this point. Like, this is a very bad conference.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Dan]

Like, for Miami to even be in this position right now, where there is like some sort of twisted fake question of whether or not they make the ACC Championship Game is not good at all.

[Mikey]

All right, time for Lucy or Goosey. Are you ready, Lucy? I'm always ready, Lucy or Goosey. You'd be shocked if Indiana beats Ohio State.

[Dan]

I would not be shocked. So goosey. I'm not like insanely confident that they will. I think this is a game that Indiana could lose by like 10 points, but it's pretty close up until the 4th. Just remember this is an Ohio State team that struggled against a bad Nebraska team, which, by the way, still not bowl eligible. Yeah, it's Indiana matches up well. They have a ton of talent. They're a good football team. I know that the Michigan game was kind of disgusting, but Michigan is sort of a team that drags you down to their level. Ohio State I really do think will win, but I think it's going to be a competitive game because Ohio State, with the exception of playing, you know, the sort of group of five schools, has played a lot of closer games this year than you would like, expect. I know that they were down by a touchdown at Northwestern to start this game and everyone lost their mind and then that was over very quickly. But Indiana is a very good team. So I think that it, I don't think they win, but I think it's competitive.

[Mikey]

I'm GLAD you said 10 points. If Ohio State beats Indiana by 10 points or less, Indiana still gets into the playoff.

[Dan]

Lucy.

[Mikey]

For sure.

[Dan]

Yes.

[Mikey]

Okay.

[Dan]

Yeah. Like the. This is a. In a playoff elimination game, not in the sense of win or lose, but in the sense of how do you play in this game if Indiana goes out there and loses 56 to 7. Well, guess what? That's. You're not going to the playoff. If Indiana gets out there, went 56 to 7. Oh my God. Yes. You're the most playoff team ever. If they lose a close game, it's going to be hard to knock them out of the playoff. Especially because as we're seeing in the SEC, as we're seeing in the Big 12 and the ACC that, that teams are cannibalizing each other right now. The Big Ten is kind of in the best spot.

[Mike]

I was, when we were talking about Nebraska, I was wondering what happened to our old friend Dylan Rayola because we haven't talked about him in a long time since. Since he was pretending to be Patrick.

[Mikey]

Team stinks. And you can't pretend to be Patrick.

[Mike]

Mahomes on your team stinks. He's been bad. Like the.

[Dan]

Not been good. I have like a. I have to get the number exactly. But Matt rule is like 0 and 8 in bowl clinching games. Nebraska, the level of misery that fan base endures is genuinely like shocking to me. They for the they have not won a game in November and, like, four years.

[Mike]

What. I mean, but what's happening with them? They're one win away from being bull eligible and they've lost four straight.

[Dan]

Yeah. So this is. Ha. This happened to them this year. This happened to them last year. This has happened to them, like, five out of the last previous years, where every time they reach five wins, they just cannot win a game. And not only can they not win a game, they cannot win, like, a close game. They are always losing by one possession, games. It has to be studied. Like, there needs to be tests done. Because I've never seen anything like this. Like, and it makes me sad because obviously I don't like Nebraska. They're a rival. Their fans are delightful. Some of the best fans I've ever seen in the country. And it is. I think that all Nebraska football tickets should come with, like, a promotion to, like, a therapy service, because I don't know how they do it.

[Mike]

Yeah, I mean, I want them to get back on track, and I want Dylan Rayola to do something so that our lasting memory of him isn't him cosplaying Patrick Mahomes and then just being terrible. And then he went away, and that's all we ever know about him. I want him to have a moment. Yeah. But I want him for, like, his. His sake and, like, his future therapy bills to, like, have his own moment, you know?

[Mikey]

You are oddly concerned about this kid, huh?

[Mike]

I am. I want him to have his own identity. I want him to, like, do a thing, you know, I'll look up how.

[Dan]

Much nil money he makes, and then I'll see if I feel bad.

[Mike]

Money is so crazy. I felt like, here, I shouldn't have thought this, but, like, when I saw Cam Ward buy his entire offensive line diamond chains this weekend, I was like, what do you mean we're coming off a loss? Let's. Let's focus here. I mean, like, this shouldn't be what we're focusing on right now.

[Mikey]

It's fair. Okay?

[Mike]

I'm coming off a loss. And now you're not even the driver, so you need help to get in. Like, let's, you know, just privately do that. Do that. You do that like a Secret Santa. You know what I mean? A white elephant.

[Mikey]

I agree with you.

[Mike]

Yes. Are we doing that again this year? By the way, guys, last year we had a white elephant here, right? At the office that went dead. Yeah. Really?

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

You weren't here. Thanks for staying for that. It went really weird, huh?

[Mikey]

Well, I mean, as things tend to go here.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Sorry, Lucy or Goosey. If you are rooting for Notre Dame to beat army this weekend, you're not American.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Dan]

Lucy, with the exception of Jessica, she could do whatever she wants. She's perfect.

[Mikey]

Okay. So she can root for Notre Dame and we'll still consider her to be American.

[Dan]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Mikey]

All right.

[Dan]

Yeah. Army, Undefeated.

[Mikey]

Yes.

[Dan]

The naming the Navy Army AC Championship dream is dead. Tulane kind of beat the out of Navy this weekend, so we will not be seeing that. Army is a good team. They're in the top. They keep jumping up the College Football Playoff rankings. I kind of think we're going to have something similar to what happened with Notre Dame and Navy or where we're like, ooh, Notre Dame, Navy. Navy's undo. Defeated. Looking good. And then Notre Dame beat the crap out of them because I know that Notre Dame's not playing particularly wonderful teams. But since then, Northern Illinois loss, they're beating teams the way Indiana is. You know, they're. They're very, decidedly winning games. Riley Leonard looks very, very good. So I do not think that army will win. This game is in Yankee Stadium, which is kind of fun, but I just. Yeah, I. You can root for an order, Dame if you're Jessica, but everyone else, you have to support the troops.

[Mikey]

How about the goal?

[Dan]

I'll let the goal, all right.

[Mikey]

You'll let the goal, all right. Yeah, I don't know about that. Lucy or Goosey. There will be a new head coach at LSU next year.

[Dan]

Oh, gosh, Goosey. Not because I think that they don't want a new head coach, but I. I don't know Brian Kelly's buyout off the top of my head, but I do know that his contract runs until the2030s right now. So, like, they don't. They. LSU has a lot of money, but I do think it'll take fundraising to get rid of Brian Kelly. And the thing about Brian Kelly is I don't know if there's anyone in the bet in the country better at making excuses. Watch a press conferen conference. You'll learn that. Yeah. For LSU to lose three straight games, to lose to half a Florida team destroyed against Alabama, pretty much destroyed against A and M. This is the reddest flag of red flags for lsu. And their athletic director kind of sucks, right?

[Mikey]

The buyout.

[Fuentes]

$62 million almost, by the way.

[Mikey]

$61 million. The buyout. Ryan Kelly. Yeah.

[Dan]

Yeah. So hope you like Brian Kelly. I hope you like that Southern accent. And I hope he likes gumbo.

[Mikey]

You're stuck with him is what you're saying, huh?

[Dan]

Oh, yeah, that's. And like. Like, Brian Kelly is going to be sort of in the slightly more likable James Franklin realm for me, where, like, LSU is going to have talent, they're going to have money, they're going to have good nil, but they're not going to reach that next level with Brian Kelly, like, nine to 10 wins every season, which at LSU might as well be a losing season.

[Mikey]

All right. A very quick one on the way out. If you're Stanford and you have 40 people in the stands, you cannot storm the field after springing the upset.

[Dan]

Goosey. You can storm the field, especially with Louisville losing solely on dumb penalties. That's hilarious. Storm the field, nerds.

[Mikey]

Yeah, but 40 of them? I mean.

[Dan]

Yes, all 40 of them should do it.

[Mikey]

Okay. All right.

[Dan]

When are they ever going to do it again?

[Mikey]

No, you're right. Are you headed to. What can you call it?

[Fuentes]

Storming.

[Mikey]

You can. Storming the field with 40 barely covering the field. Yeah. There. Drizzling the field.

[Dan]

That's just sneaking on at that point. You're just sneaking on. You can stand on the sidelines and no one would know.

[Mikey]

Are we headed to Indiana, Ohio State this weekend?

[Dan]

Lucy, we are actually not. We're switching. I know, I know. We're switching things up. We're doing something different. We're going to Harvard, Yale this week.

[Mikey]

Wow.

[Mike]

I love it.

[Dan]

I'm really excited.

[Mikey]

I can tell it's gonna be weird.

[Dan]

I don't know what to do.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Dan]

I don't. I don't know if they tailgate.

[Mike]

No, they go to the library.

[Dan]

I don't know.

[Mikey]

Yeah, they tailgate at the library.

[Mike]

Yes, exactly. Right.

[Fuentes]

Where?

[Mikey]

Where is it?

[Dan]

It's in. It's at Harvard. So.

[Mikey]

King. Yeah. That's a short drive for you, Mikey. You should join her.

[Dan]

Yeah. Welcome.

[Fuentes]

Yale. I would have come. Y. Yale.

[Mikey]

I'd have met you. I mean, y.

[Fuentes]

Too far.

[Mikey]

Yale's right down the street from your house. I mean.

[Mike]

Yes, I know.

[Mikey]

All right, all right. I know. All right, Lucy. Enjoy Harvard and Yale. I'll be watching Indiana, Ohio State.

[Dan]

Yeah, well, I'll probably be in the press box. I'll probably be watching.

[Mikey]

Have fun, Lucy.

[Dan]

Bye.

[Mikey]

See you.

[Lucy]

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[Mikey]

It is odd that we do the Monday recap show, Billy, and we have two sets, two bits of breaking news. Not massive news, but just some breaking news as we're recording. Yes, Mikey A will deliver the first bid of breaking news here on a Monday. What do you got, Mikey?

[Fuentes]

Yeah. The Daniel Jones era in New York is likely over. He is being benched and they're going back the Tommy cutlets. Tommy DeVito will start for the Giants.

[Mike]

Oh, boy.

[Mikey]

That means his agent.

[Mike]

Exactly.

[Mikey]

Right off his back.

[Mike]

Whatever that guy say that means.

[Stugotz]

First thing I thought about going to be Roman radio row again this year.

[Mikey]

That makes sense. Why play Daniel Jones if like. Yes, he. He has played his last game as a New York Giant. Right.

[Fuentes]

So that's on the jets next year, right?

[Mikey]

He will be on the jets and be worse next year. Yes. Aaron Rogers is coming back to the jets next year. I hate to say that. Fuentes, what is your bit of breaking news here?

[Stugotz]

The Pop Tart bowl will now have three mascots this year.

[Mikey]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

Frosted hot fudge sundae, frosted wild berry and mystery flavor. That's coming back from the vault.

[Mikey]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

Only one mascot will achieve the ultimate pastry dream of being eaten by the winning team.

[Mike]

That's the dream.

[Stugotz]

And the game MVP picks the flavor.

[Mikey]

That's a Pop Tart stream.

[Mike]

Well, last year's Pop Tart, you know, was sacrificed for the good of the people.

[Stugotz]

It Was a weird scene.

[Mike]

The team.

[Stugotz]

It was a weird scene at the end.

[Mike]

Yeah. They were. They, like the Pop Tart, like, got into a toaster and then came out and they ate.

[Stugotz]

And they ate him.

[Mike]

The Pop Tart, which was alive moments before.

[Stugotz]

And they chose the strawberry frosted. So when they started ripping it apart, it looked very, like, bloody and not great for Savage. Yeah, right.

[Mike]

Looks savage. Now there's going to be three. And the winning team is going to choose which one. We're sacrificed.

[Stugotz]

The MVP is going to choose which.

[Mike]

One is being sacrificed. And that is a Pop Tarts dream.

[Stugotz]

Yes. To be eaten by a football team after a middle December bowl.

[Mikey]

According to the Pop Tarts. I mean.

[Mike]

I mean, it's not for me to tell the Pop Tarts exactly Right.

[Mikey]

I love the idea. This Indiana Ohio State game is so fascinating to me because they just have to stay close. It seems like 10 points is like the line of demarcation. If they lose by less than 10 points, they're fine. If they lose by more than 10 points, they're out. And so I'm wondering if they're down 7 late in the game, if Cag Netti, the Indiana coach, they're undefeated. They're down seven, they're at Ohio State and they are driving. But rather than driving for the winning touchdown, what they do is they get into victory formation first.

[Stugotz]

First victory formation, down 7. That'd be fantastic.

[Mike]

It's sign, but that's fine.

[Mikey]

Whatever. Coach Sigs, okay? He's new to all of us. Indiana is new to all of us in terms of football. But I do like the idea of, hey, you know what? We're down seven at Ohio State. Why risk it and throw a pick six. We lose by 14. I'll just take a knee, huh? Then I don't have to play to your point, Billy, you've been saying this for a couple of weeks now. Then you avoid the Big Ten championship game. So you're getting in. You lost. You were competitive with Ohio State. You took a victory formation, down seven with 48 seconds to go at Columbus. And you're in the playoffs. You don't have to play up. You don't have to play in the conference championship game. You're in, it's over.

[Mike]

It's a ridiculous idea, but it's not the craziest thing in the world. It's not the craziest thing in the world.

[Mikey]

It felt like the craziest thing in the world. That's what was coming out of my mouth.

[Mike]

It's not that crazy.

[Mikey]

Crazy.

[Mike]

I don't think, to be fair, like.

[Stugotz]

Indiana being having 10 wins is crazy enough already.

[Mikey]

He's starting to like the idea though.

[Mike]

It's not terrible.

[Mikey]

He's starting to like the idea you're doubting not why risk it.

[Stugotz]

I get your logic. I get it, right.

[Mikey]

You try to win, you could lose. Yeah.

[Fuentes]

I mean the spread in that game is 12. Is this the rare like where gambling and actual football meet perfectly and as long as you cover, you're in.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

I don't know. Does 12 get. They lose my 12 get you in. I'm fast.

[Fuentes]

11 and a half.

[Mikey]

I want to know.

[Fuentes]

11 and a half.

[Mikey]

Do you think the committee has a number? Do you think they've discussed a number as Billy Vegas gave them the number?

[Fuentes]

Vegas gave them the number here 12.

[Mikey]

I know, but do you think they cover their in? No, but I think the committee is set on like 10 or less. It's got to be a single digit game for Indiana to get in.

[Stugotz]

I think it's the full eye test. Because if they're down seven at the end and then like there's like a fluke fumble or something and Ohio State gets a touchdown, they'd be like, ah, well, you know, they're trying to win the game at the end.

[Mikey]

What if it's like 28, 14, they get a garbage touchdown at the end?

[Stugotz]

Depends on the quality of the touchdown. I mean if it's a bomb or something, you know, great play.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Stugotz]

Statue of Liberty, cover and you're in.

[Fuentes]

I like it.

[Mikey]

So cover and you're in. That's it.

[Fuentes]

Cover and you're in. I like that.

[Mikey]

12 or less, you're it. How about a push? Does a push get you in?

[Fuentes]

No push goes to the eye test.

[Stugotz]

Now we gotta look at body of work.

[Mikey]

All right, so 11 points or less guarantees you a playoff spot and you don't have to play.

[Fuentes]

Maybe the committee buys the hook.

[Stugotz]

And then if all the categories are met, they go to the ratings.

[Mikey]

Oh my God.

[Stugotz]

Did he get a big number? Other than.

[Mikey]

I am so fascinated by this game and what's going to happen to Indiana? Cause I don't think they're going to win. I think Ohio State's gonna win. It's just a matter of by how much. Mike, how'd you feel about Anthony Richardson? The jets, it was so Jets. It's not a matter of of if they're gonna lose. It's a matter of how they're going to lose. I was mad at Shane Steichen that Guy is a phony. He's a fraud. Oh, I. He is? Wow. Listen, you cannot be the head coach of the culture Colts and come out and say Joe Flacco is my quarterback for the remainder of the year. And then two losses and five interceptions later decide, eh, that thing I said two weeks ago, forget about it. I'm going with Anthony Richardson. I'm going back to the guy who had the audacity to say that he was tired. I'm going back to him. And then Richardson comes down. He wins the game late for the Colts. The Colts are still in the huts here for a final wild card spot in the afc. And so I watched Shane Steichen celebrating with Anthony Richardson. And I was thinking, Richardson should have punched him in the face. That's all I was thinking. I mean, oh, he doesn't believe in him.

[Fuentes]

Shane Steichen.

[Stugotz]

Shane Steichen.

[Fuentes]

Hot seat.

[Mike]

It sounds like something you would do.

[Mikey]

It is. Yeah.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Mikey]

You're assuming I like myself. Billy. I'm not.

[Fuentes]

Do you?

[Mikey]

I don't.

[Mike]

Why not?

[Mikey]

Because I would do that. You should be.

[Mike]

You should like yourself.

[Mikey]

No, but I would. I. I am Shane Steichen.

[Stugotz]

It kind of made Steichen look like a genius, though.

[Mikey]

It did not make Steichen look like a genius.

[Stugotz]

Came back. Big win in the mix.

[Mikey]

Yeah, I get it. Yeah.

[Fuentes]

He comes back, he's. He's more mature now. You sent a message. Listen, quarterback, you sit down, you. You learn your lesson. You come back, we'll go win a.

[Stugotz]

Few games and they're right there in the mix.

[Mikey]

And you're giving that to Steichen?

[Stugotz]

Who else is there?

[Mikey]

Anthony Richard.

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[Mikey]

All right, we have a Monday night game tonight. The Cowboys and the Texans. Billy is getting his big board bet ready for this evening. He's got three. You got three? Three of them.

[Mike]

I have three.

[Mikey]

Okay. You got three.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

What's the record this year?

[Mike]

29 and 14.

[Mikey]

Okay. Another four and two, by the way. And Stu Gotz. I am on fire. In the NFL. College, not so great. NFL, not so much. I am on fire. I am on fire. That's why I fell asleep at halftime last night. I figured that game was over. I had the Chargers. I was feeling good about it. I am shocked by how Billy. How upset Billy was today at Joe Burrow because I had no idea the game got that close.

[Mike]

It was a good. It was a good game. It was a good game.

[Mikey]

Okay. Barrow's having a season. Mikey, can you look up the stats on Joe Burrow? I think it's like 29 touchdowns at four interceptions.

[Mike]

Can I. Can I ask you.

[Mikey]

And if I told you that before the season, Burrow, 29 and 4, you guys would tell me that the Bengals are like the one seed in the afc, not even gonna make the playoffs.

[Mike]

We went this whole. This whole episode, and we did not talk about the Lions having another. Their completely dominant performance. It was against the Jaguar, so who cares? But here's what I wonder, and I'm surprised that we haven't gotten here yet, but I do wonder at some point if we're gonna have Jared Goff MVP discussions.

[Mikey]

He's in that. He's in the.

[Mike]

He's. He's not leading really anything other than his team being amazingly good. But he had another 400 yard performance. Four touchdowns, zero interceptions. But, like, he's not at the top of the list in passing yards. He's not at the top of the list in touchdowns. Like, he's just the quarterback of the best team.

[Mikey]

I mean, that's fair. He does have 20, I think 20 touchdown passes, nine interceptions, five in one game. Burrow has 27. And four. Goff is going to be in the MVP conversation. I don't know if he'll win it but he's certainly going to be.

[Mike]

He's not going to win it. He's not going to win it.

[Mikey]

Probably not.

[Mike]

He's not even being mentioned right now. But it's like a weird year where we don't exactly have a front runner, Josh Allen.

[Mikey]

I mean I think Josh Allen probably won it with that run yesterday.

[Mike]

I mean there's still a ways to go in this.

[Stugotz]

You can have one of those games where he throws three interceptions. He has like one of those every year.

[Mike]

I mean he, he seems to now be the front runner. But it's been a season where we don't have a front runner where every week we're trying to convince ourselves who the MVP of the season is.

[Mikey]

That's fair.

[Mike]

And, and Jared Allen has, or Jared Goff has not once come up in those conversations.

[Stugotz]

So we talk. Since we're talking about big time quarterbacks in the league right now, is it kind of weird how Harbaugh kind of just turned Justin Herbert into a game manager and that's great for them?

[Mikey]

Yeah. I mean he was better than a game manager last night.

[Stugotz]

First half he was really good.

[Mikey]

Jim Harbaugh is a good coach. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

And he just like we're going to take this guy who's great and I'm going to make him a game manager and we're going to be way better than we've ever been.

[Mikey]

Yeah, he's a good coach. Everywhere he goes that team gets better. Instantly. Instantly.

[Mike]

I'm going to share with you real quick my first big board bets pick brought to you by I'm still waiting for sponsor Billy's big word vets brought to you by 2914 on the season. I'm going to give it to you real quick and then you can go back to that because I have to write down first one. I, I'm not excited about this game. This seems like an early night. This seems like it's not going to be a very good game. We'll see what happens. I'm going to go under 41 and a half.

[Mikey]

Under 41 and a half rooting against points to be scored.

[Mike]

I hate to do it. I'm not rooting against points to be scored but I feel like we're going to be going against points scored. I, I, I do not like this game at all.

[Mikey]

Well, when you take the under by definition you are rooting for points not to be scored.

[Mike]

That's okay.

[Mikey]

I'm fine with that. You're taking the under. I mean, you have conviction, right?

[Mike]

I'd love for points to be scored. I don't think that they're going to be SC board.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Mike]

And a reason why is my next one. It's our friend Cooper rush under 178 and a half passing yards.

[Mikey]

All this would suggest that Billy likes the Texans tonight. I mean, just, I don't know. I'm just.

[Mike]

You would think that I would, but it's a big spread.

[Mikey]

No, I know, but if you're taking the under and Cooper going under, you're thinking like Texans are going to win this thing like 21.

[Mike]

I think Cooper's hit triple digits once.

[Mikey]

Yeah.

[Mike]

This season. Like obviously he's only started a couple times, but. But yeah, I'm not, I'm not liking this game very much this week.

[Mikey]

Yeah, it's not a great game.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

Yep. Cowboys supposed to be better. Texans honestly supposed to be better. So, yeah, we'll see. Texans sitting at 6 and 4. The Texans need the game. So I like the Texans tonight.

[Mike]

My last one that I'm going to go is Joe Mixon over 86 and a half rushing yards. The reason I think that he's going to have over 86 and a half rushing yards is because I feel like the game is going to already be in hand, hand in the fourth quarter and they're just going to be running the ball. Now I'm hoping that it's Joe Mixon. I'm not 100 sure it'll be Joe Mixon that may take him out of the game, but I think that we're going to get a lot of yards at the end of the game where we're just trying to kind of end the game.

[Mikey]

You're saying take him out of the game because the game's a blowout.

[Mike]

Possibly.

[Mikey]

Right.

[Mike]

But I'm, I'm, I'm betting on that he'll still be in there and he'll get a lot of garbage time yards. Just trying to kind of end the game.

[Stugotz]

I like. I like a Nico Collins anytime. Touchdown.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

He's back.

[Mikey]

Is it?

[Mike]

He is back.

[Mikey]

I am checking out because the Bengals, I think they're one of the worst rushing teams in the NFL. Joe Mixon was important.

[Stugotz]

Kind of a big deal.

[Mikey]

He was important.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Fuentes]

Chase Brown looked pretty good last night, though. Yeah, Chase Brown looked pretty good. He was.

[Mikey]

Yeah. Okay. But in terms of team stats, the Bengals are near the bottom in Russia.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Mikey]

Towards the top. I'm just saying Joe Mixon, one of those guys who knew Pretty important.

[Stugotz]

They're having a great season too.

[Mikey]

He's having a really good season.

[Mike]

People knew that he was good.

[Mikey]

No, the Bengals didn't.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Mikey]

And that's the problem. I think about this. Joe Burrow has 27 touchdowns at four interceptions. That's a season for the ages. Like if he continues, he's going to have 40 plus touchdowns and less than 10 interceptions and his team is not going to make the playoffs.

[Stugotz]

Going to have seven wins.

[Mikey]

I would say it's the greatest season by a quarter quarterback. I'm guessing it will be the greatest season by a quarterback who didn't make the playoffs.

[Mike]

I don't want to be.

[Fuentes]

Would you trade right now the Bengals season for the jets season to have all that going? Right. But still losing or just the dumpster fire? That is.

[Mikey]

The dumpster fire that is really.

[Fuentes]

Yeah, I think I do too.

[Mike]

I don't want to sound mean and I don't mean to be mean to this person, but I mean, when your running back is Devin Singletary the year before, like that's your leading rusher Joe Mixon, it's gonna look good.

[Mikey]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[Mike]

Respectfully to the Singletary, that's disrespecting Joe.

[Stugotz]

Mixon ever being honest.

[Mike]

Really. Well, respect Singletary family respect. No, no disrespect to the Mixins either.

[Mikey]

Glad you got that.

[Mike]

God bless Stu.

[Mikey]

Got here.

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[Mikey]

Home.

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