GBF- Monday Hangover: I'm listening, bleep-holes

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: GBF- Monday Hangover: I'm listening, bleep-holes
Release Date: January 13, 2025

From the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz dive deep into the latest happenings in the sports world, focusing on the NFL playoff season, coaching strategies, player performances, and fantasy football insights.

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1. Wildcard Weekend Analysis

Overall Sentiment: The hosts express disappointment with the recent wildcard weekend, describing it as underwhelming with few standout performances.

• Stugotz (02:19): "Not so wild the wild card weekend, huh?"
• Mikey A (02:24): "Boring card weekend."
• Billy Gill (02:27): "Got a little wild at the end. Just. I mean, a little bit."

Key Games Discussed:

• Houston Texans vs. Los Angeles Chargers:
  • Stugotz (04:10): "Jaden Daniels advancing on to take on the Detroit Lions."
  • Mikey A (05:18): "Bo Nix had a playoff moment. He did the first drive of the game."

Player Performances:

• Jaden Daniels: Praised for his role, though concerns about durability are raised.

  • Stugotz (05:29): "He was responsible for 87% of their offense."
  • Mikey A (05:40): "I would wonder if he's going to be durable enough?"

• Justin Herbert: Criticized for his performance and decision-making.

  • Mikey A (18:20): "My first loser, Justin Herbert."

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2. Coaching News and Speculations

Mike Tomlin and Coaching Trends:

• Stugotz (07:40): Discussion about the potential departure of Mike Tomlin from the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• Billy Gill (31:11): "I'm scared... who’s going to be the Jets coach, man?"
• Mikey A (32:33): Concerns about the Jets potentially hiring ineffective coaches like Flores.
  • "They’re leaning towards one that Miami Dolphin fans know well."

Marcus Freeman's Future:

• Stugotz (06:20): "How about Marcus Freeman taking the interview?"
• Mikey A (07:32): "If he wins the national championship, he could be heading to the Bears."
• Stugotz (13:53): "I don't want to saddle Gojo. He’s going to be doing this for the next 25 years."

Eric Mangini's Aspirations:

• Mikey A (43:04): "Eric Mangini wants any call."
• Stugotz (43:16): "The poor Eric Mangini."

Potential Coaching Moves:

• Billy Gill (46:30): Speculation about Deion Sanders potentially coaching the Raiders.
  • "Deion's reaching out to the Raiders."

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3. Winners and Losers Highlights

Notable Losers:

• Justin Herbert (18:20):

  • Mikey A: "Rough one for Justin Herbert. We were convinced Justin Herbert had turned the corner."

• Jim Harbaugh (19:19):

  • Stugotz: "Justin Herbert's coach, Jim Harbaugh, right in the playoffs."

• Rex Ryan (19:51):

  • Billy Gill: "Rex Ryan said that the Chargers were going to have a bye week playing the Houston Texans..."

• Cameron Dicker (20:16):

  • Mikey A: "Cameron Dicker... he got absolutely demolished."

• Mike Tomlin (21:45):

  • Fuentes: "He hasn't won a game in a decade of playoff."

Notable Winners:

• Chiefs:

  • Stugotz (22:06): "They have the Chiefs wanted exactly what they're getting."

• Derrick Henry and Mike Evans:

  • Mikey A (23:24): "Derrick Henry, amazing. Big winner."

• Justin Tucker (24:17):

  • Mikey A: "Justin Tucker, four for four on extra points."

Unique Moments:

• Jaden Daniels Bleeding:
  • Mikey A (27:48): "Jaden Daniels, him bleeding... blood all over the place makes you look so cool."

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4. Big Board Bets (Fantasy Football Predictions)

Billy Gill's Bets:

1. Kyron Williams Over Anytime Touchdown (52:16):

   • Mikey A: "I need a slump buster, which is Kyron Williams."

2. Jordan Addison Over 4.5 Receptions (52:35):

   • Mikey A: "Jordan Addison over four and a half receptions."

3. Jalen Naylor Over 17.5 Receiving Yards (53:18):

   • Mikey A: "Jalen Naylor, over 17 and a half receiving yards."

Discussion on Fantasy Challenges:

• Limited Team Variety:

  • Mikey A (25:03): "It's hard to do the daily fantasy at this time of year because there's so many or there's so few teams to choose from."

• Performance Pressures:

  • Billy Gill (52:26): "You're beating yourself up because you are down over the last three weeks."

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5. Team-Specific Discussions

Philadelphia Eagles:

• Stugotz (26:01): "I have them in the NFC Championship game."
• Eagles' Fan Base:
  • Stugotz (26:06): "Fan base. Big losers."

Baltimore Ravens vs. Buffalo Bills:

• Stugotz (35:05): "Lamar Jackson, who is awesome, against Josh Allen."

New England Patriots:

• Billy Gill (43:09): "He takes the dog for a walk and comes back and opens the door and go, hun. Anybody call?"

Los Angeles Rams:

• Mikey A (35:42): "The Ravens play the Bills this weekend. What a game."

Notre Dame:

• Nick Sirianni and James Franklin:

  • Mikey A (38:19): "We're whispering here amongst friends whether or not we were rooting for Notre Dame to win or lose."

• Jessica's Feedback:

  • Mikey A (39:28): "She reached out to us and just said, I'm listening, bleep-holes."

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6. Fun and Banter

The hosts engage in light-hearted segments discussing hypothetical scenarios, such as opening businesses with coaches, and playful jabs at each other's preferences.

• Opening a Painting Company:

  • Stugotz (28:38): "Who would you want to start a painting company with? Gojo or Golic?"

• Eric Mangini’s Absence:

  • Mikey A (46:43): "It'd be so funny to get a text from Eric Mangini tomorrow."

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Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz (03:12): "I'm starting to get sad because I know we only have less than a month left of this."
• Billy Gill (03:01): "Who is the country rooting for less? Ohio State or Notre Dame?"
• Mikey A (27:55): "Jaden Daniels, him bleeding... blood all over the place makes you look so cool."
• Mikey A (34:29): "I would stop being a Jets fan."
• Stugotz (50:43): "He was on the Sopranos. Oh, my God."

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Conclusion:

In this episode, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, alongside Mikey A, Billy Gill, and Fuentes, provide a comprehensive and spirited analysis of the NFL playoff season's wildcard weekend. They delve into team performances, coaching changes, and player impacts while intertwining humor and personal fantasy football insights. The conversation reflects both frustration and excitement as the playoff landscape continues to evolve.

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Note: Advertisements and non-content segments have been omitted to focus solely on the discussions and insights provided by the hosts.

Transcript

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[Stugatz]

God bless football. Billy Gill God bless football.

[Mikey A]

Mikey A God Bless football.

[Stugatz]

Stugots thank you, Mikey A Not so wild the wild card weekend, huh?

[Mikey A]

Boring card weekend.

[Billy Gill]

Got a little wild at the end. Just. I mean, a little bit.

[Mikey A]

It was a good last game.

[Stugatz]

It was. Are you proud of that line right there? Boring card. I could tell.

[Mikey A]

I was.

[Stugatz]

You were ashamed. No, he was ashamed, Mikey.

[Mikey A]

I mean, it's that time of year, right? I just feel shame at this point.

[Stugatz]

I know. You feel gross, right?

[Mikey A]

Yeah, kind of.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

A couple more weeks of football left. That's real. You know what it is? I think that that's the reality that's setting in is that I'm starting to get sad because I know we only have less than a month left of this.

[Stugatz]

Right. And no one loves football more than you.

[Mikey A]

No one. Right. I mean, college is wrapping up. We're seven days away from the end of college.

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

You know.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Mikey A]

So that's already kind of like it's a slow march to depression.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

I know that college is about to end. The NFL's a couple more weeks, and then. Then what do we do?

[Stugatz]

I'll get to the NFL in a second. Who is the country rooting for less? Ohio State or Notre Dame?

[Mikey A]

Oh, it's a bad matchup. I mean, it's not a bad matchup in terms of, like, the teams. It's a bad matchup in terms of likability.

[Billy Gill]

Is the country rooted for less? Yes. The answer is yes.

[Stugatz]

We're gonna be happy either way, right? Yeah. And disappointed either way.

[Billy Gill]

I. I don't want to even see this team celebrating confetti. I just want visuals of all the people depressed after they lose. Whoever loses, I just want to watch them be depressed. That's. That's my celebration.

[Stugatz]

It took. It took what, four games before we actually got a good game. And that game was last night. Baker Mayfield out of the playoff. Jaden Daniels advancing on to take on the Detroit Lions. I mean, exciting. Did he win the rookie quarterback competition? Because I'm. I'm not certain.

[Billy Gill]

Phoenix didn't help himself yesterday.

[Stugatz]

I know, but Michael Penck did. And not playing in the playoffs makes me think, what's there with Michael Penix?

[Billy Gill]

Michael Penix needed to beat the Carolina Panthers to have a shot, and he lost. So I'm. I'm going to go ahead and say.

[Stugatz]

Jaden, I know, but he threw five or six of the greatest incompletions I've.

[Mikey A]

Ever seen Michael Penix played.

[Billy Gill]

It's fair. It's fair.

[Mikey A]

Games like. What are you doing?

[Stugatz]

You look good, though, Billy. All right. Jaden Daniels won.

[Mikey A]

Bo Nix had a moment. He had a playoff moment. He did the first drive of the game. Bo Nicks. I said, you know what? Bo Nicks may do this.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

And. And then every other drive came after that first drive of the game. They had. They had a good half. Like, they kept it close to the half. They missed a field goal. Well, they had that game.

[Stugatz]

They had that first drive that you're referring to.

[Mikey A]

First drive.

[Stugatz]

And they had nothing else after that.

[Mikey A]

Yes.

[Stugatz]

If the game ended right there.

[Mikey A]

They had a fake punt. That was successful. Fun little Fake punt.

[Billy Gill]

If the game ended now.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, game ended now. The Eagles kind of ho hum the Bills. Yeah, right.

[Mikey A]

By the way, you mentioned Jaden Daniels and did he win?

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

I was worried at how easily he was thrown out of bounds. Like 15 yards. He just got hit and then just went flying. I was. I was concerned about how easily he went flying there.

[Stugatz]

He was responsible for 87% of their offense.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, yeah, he's good. But is it crazy to wonder if he's going to be durable enough?

[Stugatz]

No, it's not crazy to wonder.

[Mikey A]

I would. I would. Look, I'm not a dietitian. I don't know these things. He needs to put on weight before next season.

[Stugatz]

Really?

[Mikey A]

This season's not over yet. He needs to bulk up a little bit, I think.

[Stugatz]

Okay.

[Mikey A]

And that's coming from someone who has never had any bulk in his life. He needs to bulk up.

[Billy Gill]

Well, speaking of someone who's completely all bulk, if you're Cliff Kingsbury, you better take a job this offseason because you are one injury for that guy away from being at the bottom of the list of everybody said, coach, I would get out now while it's hot.

[Stugatz]

Wow. How about the. The Bears expressing some interest in Marcus Freeman? Huh?

[Billy Gill]

How about Marcus Freeman taking the interview?

[Mikey A]

That's crazy.

[Stugatz]

That's leverage.

[Mikey A]

But that's.

[Billy Gill]

No, because he just signed. It's four months ago that he just signed. I can't imagine. I mean, that they're going to be like, okay, here's more.

[Stugatz]

No, but Mikey, he's in the national championship game. Like, if the threat of leaving Notre Dame, you. You think he cares? Like, if he has a deal, if he has an offer from the Bears, his agent takes that right back to Notre Dame and says, hey, I know we signed this four months ago, but it's time to fire up a new one.

[Mikey A]

I mean, I got to be honest with you.

[Stugatz]

And is there a better face of a franchise than Marcus Freeman? Huh?

[Mikey A]

I got to be honest with you, no. If I was a team and I was interviewing a coach who was still playing games in the playoffs or in Marcus Freeman's case, about to play for the national championship, and I call and I'm. And they're like, yeah, yeah, I'll take your call. I'd cross them off my list immediately. Say, you know what? I need someone who's focused on getting the job done. And you, my friend, are clearly distracted. By the way, is there any indicator that someone's not going to get a job more than they interviewed on Zoom? Like, what are these Zoom interviews that we keep hearing about this year? Like, interviewed, remotely interviewed, you know, video interview, like, you're not getting the job. I hate to break it to you.

[Stugatz]

Are these guys who are. Who are coaching in the postseason? Is that why they're doing it via Zoom? I think that Spags do one via Zoom. I don't know.

[Mikey A]

Ben Johnson done some, but, like, it was for the Patriots. And you know, that. That we can all agree. Circle of trust. We're friends here, right?

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

I mean, Vrabel had that job like a month and a half ago with the Patriots.

[Stugatz]

I would say Brable had that job the second he was fired by Tennessee.

[Billy Gill]

I. Yeah, I was gonna. Seriously, it goes back that far. They were like, you know what, Mike? Take a year off. Go. Go do some stuff. We're gonna let Geron Mayo get us a quarterback. We're gonna see if he's any good, and we're gonna. We're gonna. He'll be the guy after the guy. He'll be the guy after Belichick, and then you come in and save the day. So go ahead and take a year. We'll get this thing figured out.

[Mikey A]

Mayo had in his contract that he was gonna be the next head coach, so, like, they had to make him.

[Stugatz]

They had to go to Mayo for at least a year. But I do think there is something to, hey, Mike, don't be the guy that replaces the guy. And I think Vrabel probably felt like, I don't want to be the guy that replaces Bill Belichick. I'll be the guy that replaces Gerard May.

[Mikey A]

The only thing about that that I don't 100% get is why spend a year in Cleveland? Like, why?

[Billy Gill]

It's Ohio.

[Stugatz]

Isn't that worried that area. Isn't that his thing? You just lay low for a year, though, when you know you're getting someone else's job, you just, you know, you kind of lay low. Don't. Don't create waves. You know what I'm saying?

[Mikey A]

Sure. I mean, no, but lay low in.

[Stugatz]

Cleveland, no one's paying attention. Everyone knows the Patriots watch it and.

[Mikey A]

You know, can we have. Can we have a very in poor taste conversation? Sure. Very poor. Always circle of trust.

[Billy Gill]

Always.

[Mikey A]

Mike. Yay. Stuart's answer. Mikey, don't answer this. Two guys. You answer this. Okay, who's someone out there whose job you'd love to take that you just lay low for a year after they're gone? So, like, you're looking at the landscape and, like, that's What I want my landing spot to be. And I will lay low for a year for that gig.

[Stugatz]

Such a good question.

[Mikey A]

Just. Mikey, don't answer this again.

[Stugatz]

Such a good question. Someone out there greeny get up.

[Mikey A]

You'd want greenies.

[Billy Gill]

There's no way you pay for a job.

[Stugatz]

Why? That's a fun show. I like that show.

[Mikey A]

Let me tell you something.

[Billy Gill]

Of course you like it. You're not getting up that early.

[Mikey A]

Don't take this the wrong way.

[Stugatz]

You guys are right. You guys are right.

[Mikey A]

You're not getting Greeny salary.

[Stugatz]

No. Oh, I know.

[Mikey A]

So let's.

[Stugatz]

That I know. That I'm aware of. Man. I'm trying to think college game day. I'm trying to think what I want.

[Mikey A]

Like, whose job would you want from game day, though?

[Stugatz]

Stanford Steve's.

[Mikey A]

That's what I was thinking. I was thinking you'd want Stanford Steve's. But then I could see the argument where you'd say you wanted Bear's job. You'd lay low for a year. But Stanford Steve's locked this down for two years now.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, so. So what happened is I didn't want to be the guy that replaced the Bear. I want to be the guy that replaces Stanford Steve.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. Right.

[Stugatz]

And so that's what I'm angling for.

[Mikey A]

I'm not.

[Stugatz]

I'm not angling for it. I'm joking. I love that guy.

[Mikey A]

But no, we're doing the other. We're doing the other game, though. The Bear would have been your answer. Because the Bear, you lay low for.

[Stugatz]

A year, let Stanford Steve kind of have a bad season, which he did a year ago. Well, he did. I was a great year this year. He had a great year this year. He had a great year this year. I as good as you. I had a better year.

[Mikey A]

And he's the referee and the field goal kicking. Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Right. Yeah. Jealous. I mean, yeah. He's on college game day, SVP Sports center at night. He's got. He's got a great gig.

[Mikey A]

Let me ask you this question.

[Stugatz]

Does it come with a ton of pressure? You know, I don't like pressure. I choke in the postseason. Yeah, that's. That's. I'm good.

[Mikey A]

Let me ask you this question, and this is going to put you in an uncomfortable position. Maybe I shouldn't ask this question.

[Stugatz]

Why are you doing.

[Mikey A]

Because the parties involved. But let's say hypothetically. Yes, hypothetically.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Mikey A]

Gojo and Golic, big falling out.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Mikey A]

One of them's gonna leave.

[Stugatz]

Father, son.

[Mikey A]

Father son. But big falling out professionally. They say, you know what? Maybe this relationship works just as a father son relationship. And. And they're gonna break up. They both reach out to you, and they say, hey, let just lay low for a year. We're gonna rebuild this, you and I.

[Billy Gill]

I love this question.

[Mikey A]

Which one? They both have reached out to you at the same time.

[Stugatz]

You know how much I love this question. Mikey, answer.

[Mikey A]

No, Mikey's not answering. No, don't answer this, Mike. No, which one? Which one are you saying, you know what? I will. I will wait out a year for X. Or. Or. Here's the dirtiest way of doing it.

[Stugatz]

Jesus Christ.

[Mikey A]

And by the way, happy playoffs. Here's the dirtiest way of doing it.

[Stugatz]

Wasn't so wild.

[Billy Gill]

We're in Billy's wheelhouse. Do you see how into the microphone he is? He is so excited.

[Stugatz]

Interrogating me.

[Mikey A]

They both say, you know what? I wanted. I want to work with you. And then one says, we'll give it a year. And the other one says, let's start right now. So you accept to start right now with one to do just for a year to get to the other one.

[Stugatz]

Huh. So one Golic's a bridge to another Golic. Oh, wow.

[Billy Gill]

See, that makes it easier to me.

[Mikey A]

I think so, too.

[Stugatz]

Well, why.

[Mikey A]

I think there's an obvious answer there.

[Stugatz]

Well, because you're making both guys happy. I mean.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, you're not. You're not. You're not making either guy. You're not insulting either guy. But at the same time, I mean, there's an obvious one that you do short term and one that you do long term.

[Stugatz]

Well.

[Fuentes]

Well, now you gave away.

[Billy Gill]

There's an obvious answer.

[Stugatz]

Is this an age thing? I mean, what are we doing here?

[Mikey A]

I'm not doing anything. I'm just asking questions.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. This is your question.

[Stugatz]

I understand what you're saying. Go look for a year to get to Go Joe.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. But the thing with Gojo is there's always an Emerson going around that could take your job. You know what I mean?

[Stugatz]

Yeah. And so I love Gojo so much that I don't want to saddle Gojo. Gojo's a young man. He is just starting out in this industry. Yeah, I am finishing up in this industry.

[Mikey A]

Are you?

[Stugatz]

Well, I'm not finishing up, but I'm closer to the end that I am to the beginning, let's put it that way. Okay. And so I don't want to do that to Gojo.

[Mikey A]

Do what?

[Stugatz]

Gojo like, I don't want to saddle Go Gojo. Should be doing this if he's not doing it with his dad, Gojo should find a young co host or two to do the show with moving forward, because he's going to be doing this for the next 25 years. So what I would do in a sprint, like a two year sprint, is saddle up with Mike Golic. Senior. And I would revive his hall of Fame career and he would revive my hall of Fame career.

[Mikey A]

You don't have a Hall of Fame.

[Stugatz]

I think I have a Hall of Fame career. I think I'm strolling in five years a day. I stopped talking into a mic.

[Mikey A]

Which hall of Fame do you think you're strolling into?

[Stugatz]

The radio hall of Fame. I mean, really? I'm not making it to the Radio hall of Fame.

[Mikey A]

No. Is this breaking news to you?

[Stugatz]

All right, so listen. But perhaps standing next to golden for two years, perhaps. And if I could help, you know, resurrect and bring him back and have him, you know, where he was with Mike Greenberg in the height of Mike and Mike.

[Mikey A]

You're going to bring him up to where he was. He needs you. All right. Who would you rather open a restaurant with?

[Billy Gill]

Nice. Super wild card weekend.

[Mikey A]

Exactly.

[Stugatz]

Right? Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Happens when there's five games and one.

[Stugatz]

Tonight, by the way, Billy's big board bets coming up in the final segment of the show. Plus, we have winners and losers. And if the season ended today, I mean, let me think. Restaurant with Gojo or Golic. Those are my only choices. Why a restaurant?

[Mikey A]

That's the game, huh?

[Stugatz]

Golick.

[Mikey A]

Wow.

[Stugatz]

Yeah. Golick.

[Mikey A]

Okay.

[Stugatz]

Senior.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, I got. Yeah, yeah.

[Stugatz]

More time. You know, Gojo's not going to take a restaurant seriously, is he?

[Mikey A]

I don't know. I don't know why we asked this question. It's. Who asked this?

[Stugatz]

Why are you putting me in bad spots?

[Mikey A]

I'm not.

[Stugatz]

All right. Anyway, ask you who.

[Billy Gill]

Who would you rather open a car detailing shop with?

[Stugatz]

Next. Who would you rather open a car detailing shop with in all of sports?

[Billy Gill]

Answer. Move on. Obvious answer.

[Stugatz]

No, it's Golic. Right.

[Mikey A]

Move on.

[Billy Gill]

Obvious answer.

[Mikey A]

Bills looked good.

[Stugatz]

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[Mikey A]

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[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

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[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. Welcome back.

[Stugatz]

Thanks.

[Mikey A]

I'm excited about this time of year. First week didn't really satisfy me.

[Stugatz]

I mean, wild card weekend is typically great. This was a. A bad wild card weekend. We still have one game tonight. Last night's game was good. The Bucks and the Commanders bailed us out. But for the most part, you're right.

[Mikey A]

I think the only surprise we had was that the Texans beat the Chargers. But it wasn't a good surprise because that game was like.

[Stugatz]

I mean, it was the whole playoff game.

[Mikey A]

It was like, who. Who wanted to lose that game more? Neither side looked particularly good.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Mikey A]

Like, I. I don't think the Texans look. And, and I may regret saying this, they do not stand circle of trust. They do not stand a chance against the Chiefs next weekend.

[Stugatz]

Really?

[Mikey A]

Chiefs have not looked good.

[Stugatz]

But I would say the Texans are getting hot at the right time.

[Mikey A]

I mean, you thought the Texans were hot yesterday.

[Stugatz]

I mean, they won a game. Two days ago, they won a playoff game that not many people had them winning. And by the way, Jim Harbaugh. How about that at Justin Herbert.

[Mikey A]

Thank you.

[Stugatz]

Four interceptions. Are you kidding me?

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Justin, through three all year through.

[Stugatz]

I know.

[Billy Gill]

In the game.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Although probably two of them were his fault.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Okay.

[Stugatz]

You know what? They're all his fault.

[Mikey A]

I hate that only two of the four were his.

[Stugatz]

Right? Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Well, I mean, you guys want to play a quick game?

[Stugatz]

Sure.

[Mikey A]

I like to call winners and losers.

[Stugatz]

Ah, yes.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

All right.

[Mikey A]

Here's the thing about winners and losers. It's presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. My first loser, Justin Herbert.

[Stugatz]

Yep.

[Mikey A]

Rough one for Justin Herbert. We were convinced Justin Herbert had turned the corner.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

What a great season he had. Low key, great season. Only a couple interceptions all year. Very quiet. Because everyone was talking about Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. So Justin Herbert made sure everyone was going to be talking about him after this first round of playoffs.

[Stugatz]

I have a loser okay. Justin Herbert's coach, Jim Harbaugh, right in the playoffs. Team is always ready. Team is poised. He's a tough coach. They're going to run the football. They're going to stop the run. They didn't do anything. They didn't do any of that. And he loses on a weekend where his brother, the better coach, the better Horbaugh, wins another playoff game. Tim or John, he goes up to Buffalo next week. So Jim Horbaugh, my loser. How about that?

[Mikey A]

Wow.

[Billy Gill]

I've got a loser for you.

[Mikey A]

Okay. Go, Mike. Wow.

[Billy Gill]

Rex Ryan. Bad weekend for Rex Ryan.

[Stugatz]

Why is that?

[Billy Gill]

I'm not even talking about the fact that he is supposedly out of the running for the jets job, although that might make him a winner. Rex Ryan said that the Chargers were going to have a bye week playing the Houston Texans, and the Houston Texans heard it. And after the game, they were smoking their victory cigars and they were making sure that they knew what Rex Ryan said. Not a good look, Rex.

[Stugatz]

No, not a good look.

[Mikey A]

I mean, victory cigars after wild card weekend round is also not a good look.

[Stugatz]

Yes, I agree. Agree.

[Mikey A]

And having Rex Ryan bulletin board material.

[Stugatz]

But I think what they were celebrating was their victory over Rex Ryan.

[Mikey A]

Ah, yes. Okay.

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

That's what it was.

[Stugatz]

Yes. How about Rex Ryan guaranteeing he was gonna get the jets job, and he's not getting the jets job. I love that.

[Billy Gill]

No, he's not.

[Mikey A]

Poor guy. I have a loser.

[Stugatz]

Another loser.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Ah. Were there any winners?

[Mikey A]

There were winners. There were winners.

[Stugatz]

I have a winner.

[Mikey A]

Okay. I have a loser, though.

[Stugatz]

Okay.

[Billy Gill]

I have another loser.

[Mikey A]

Cameron Dicker, the kicker. Kicker for the Chargers, did something I have never seen before.

[Stugatz]

What's that?

[Mikey A]

Where he was going to kick an extra point. It was blocked, and he decided. You know what? I'm going to make a business decision here. I don't want to get totally destroyed, so I'm just going to bat the ball down. Except that's not how it works when you're kicking an extra point and it gets blocked and it doesn't cross the line of scrimmage. That's a live ball, friend.

[Stugatz]

Yep.

[Mikey A]

And guess what? You still got absolutely rocked. And instead of just getting tackled, holding the ball and just calling it a day, you got absolutely demolished. And then the Texans picked up that ball and ran it the other way for two points. Didn't end up mattering, but. Oh, yeah. Loser. Cameron Dicker.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Go into the fetal position or try. Don't go somewhere in between. I just go one way or go the other.

[Fuentes]

Catch it and go down.

[Mikey A]

Get rocked. Or just go down and have them touch you. Batting it down was the worst thing he could have done there. Big winner, by the way. Texan special teams coach was going crazy on the sidelines. I don't know what his name is. I mean, he'd be a bigger winner if we all knew his name.

[Stugatz]

Should we try to get him on?

[Mikey A]

Oh, boy. No, please don't. I feel like it's a year of.

[Billy Gill]

Special teams coaches going crazy.

[Stugatz]

Right, special teams coach.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Speaking of losers, Mike Tomlinson. Go ahead. Fuentes.

[Mikey A]

Oh, boy.

[Fuentes]

I got a loser.

[Stugatz]

He hasn't won a game in a decade of playoff. He's over the last decade of playoff.

[Billy Gill]

Games, outscored in the first half of game 76 to 0 in the playoffs.

[Stugatz]

His team looked like they didn't want to be there. Go ahead.

[Fuentes]

My loser is everybody that bet. Saquon Barkley. Anytime. Touchdown. Because he had a house call at.

[Stugatz]

The end of the game and he.

[Fuentes]

Went down to end the game.

[Mikey A]

That one was rough.

[Stugatz]

Y.

[Mikey A]

That one was rough. Bad.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

That one hurt my feelings.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

I have a winner. They didn't play yesterday, but I guarantee you the Chiefs wanted exactly what they're getting. The Texans, they did not want the Chargers, they didn't want Harbaugh, they didn't want Herbert coming off a win. They got the Houston Texans. And Billy has already said the Chiefs are on to the AFC Championship game, and I agree with it.

[Fuentes]

They didn't want the Broncos either.

[Stugatz]

Right. Big winner, the Chiefs.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

I have someone who didn't win or lose, even though they coached and lost the game yesterday. Todd Bowles. No one cares.

[Mikey A]

Okay?

[Stugatz]

He's one and three in the boat. He's never on the hot seat. Yeah, no one cares. They're never talking about who's going to be the next coach to replace Bulls in Tampa.

[Mikey A]

Can I have a positive. Can I have a winner?

[Stugatz]

Yeah. I gave you a winner. The Chiefs.

[Mikey A]

Lad monkey.

[Stugatz]

He's good.

[Mikey A]

Oh. 197 receiving yards. Fuentes rolled his eye. Do you not think?

[Fuentes]

Oh, no. I rolled it in an affirmation.

[Mikey A]

Big game.

[Fuentes]

Big game for the rookie.

[Mikey A]

Big game for lad. McConkey.

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

I don't know if he can go very far. Vladimik, one receiver.

[Stugatz]

But I love that they lost 32 12.

[Mikey A]

Oh, no, but he was.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, but he had a big.

[Stugatz]

I know.

[Mikey A]

He is a big winner.

[Billy Gill]

He did his part.

[Mikey A]

There was a lot of, like, huge individual performances this weekend.

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

Derrick Henry, amazing. Big winner.

[Stugatz]

He was there for the taking. Anyone could have had him.

[Mikey A]

Big winner.

[Stugatz]

Derek Henry, Mike Evans. He's great. Is he a winner, though?

[Fuentes]

I mean, he punked his longtime rival Lattimore, scored the touchdown.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Fuentes]

Baker, though. Big loser.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Big loser. Yeah.

[Fuentes]

Big fumble.

[Stugatz]

The fumble.

[Mikey A]

That fumble is the weird.

[Fuentes]

The weird Mistime spirit snap. So nobody moves so they don't get the first down on 13 inches, which leads to a field goal, and then they lose.

[Mikey A]

Can I give you. Can I give you a winner you're not expecting?

[Stugatz]

Of course. I love that. Wow. Hold on a second. A winner that we're not expecting?

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Okay.

[Mikey A]

Justin Tucker, four for four on extra points. Didn't have a field goal attempt. Four for four and extra points. There's an early. Early calls of his demise saying, should they cut him?

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

And I don't want to. I don't want to be that person.

[Billy Gill]

And now he's hitting all the extras.

[Mikey A]

I told you we're gonna have a situation where he wins them a big one. Now. I was. I was alluding to maybe the super bowl. So we still have a ways to go on that one, but when it's that time of the year, Justin Tucker's gonna be ready.

[Fuentes]

There was some.

[Mikey A]

And ready he was.

[Fuentes]

Shaky kicker performances yesterday.

[Mikey A]

There were.

[Fuentes]

There was Tucker, who we're not sure about, even though he made all four. Jake Elliott.

[Mikey A]

Not sure about Jake Elliott or the Eagles.

[Billy Gill]

Zane Gonzalez.

[Fuentes]

Zane Gonzalez, the big one.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Fuentes]

Doinked it in for the win, but a little. Little worrisome.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. Big moment for him. Yeah, big moment for him. I was. I was rooting for. If I'm. If I'm going to be perfectly honest with you.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Mikey A]

I was kind of. I was kind of rooting for that one to go out so that I could get. I could get another couple fantasy points because.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Last week in our fantasy league presented by smearing off the world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. I ended up finishing, like, 4 40th place. So I was just outside of the money. If. If I got one more Terry McLaurin touchdown. Oh. Because I had Jaden, that would have been two touchdowns, and I. I probably would have finished in the money. It's hard to do the daily fantasy at this time of year because there's so many or there's so few teams to choose from that so many people have the same teams.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Mikey A]

You know, like, there's not a lot of variety in terms of who you can get. So this is really where you separate the mice from the men. Is That a thing.

[Fuentes]

One. One last winner.

[Stugatz]

Is it?

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Do you separate mice from men?

[Mikey A]

Yeah. You do?

[Stugatz]

Oh, yeah.

[Fuentes]

Some are big.

[Billy Gill]

Of course you do.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Fuentes]

But Terry McLaurin. Very happy for him.

[Mikey A]

Are you? Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Nice of you.

[Fuentes]

The amount of dog quarterbacks he had to deal with in Washington until now, he finally gets to like, I'm on a team that wins.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

I'm on a good team. I feel good for all the commanders.

[Mikey A]

Little bit. Yeah.

[Stugatz]

And their fan base. Actually, speaking of fan bases, the Eagles. Fan base. Big losers.

[Mikey A]

Oh.

[Stugatz]

I mean, a month ago, all of you wanted to fire Nick Sirianni. And I'm not going to allow you to celebrate Nick Sirianni now.

[Mikey A]

You're not?

[Stugatz]

No.

[Fuentes]

He's right, though. He's right.

[Stugatz]

Seriously, they're a bunch of phonies.

[Mikey A]

Well, I mean, they're Billy fans.

[Stugatz]

Come on.

[Mikey A]

What do you expect? Don't give.

[Stugatz]

He's taking them to the playoffs three consecutive years when they wanted him fired.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Now it's four consecutive years. And now I'm not certain the Eagles aren't the best team in the nfc. And that defense played great, great over the weekend. They get the winner of Minnesota and the Rams coming to Philadelphia next week. I have them in the NFC Championship game. I mean, they'll take on the Lions or the commanders. And watch out for the commanders in that game. That's the quarterback you don't want to see.

[Fuentes]

They beat him once already.

[Mikey A]

You don't believe that.

[Stugatz]

Washington beat him.

[Mikey A]

You don't believe.

[Stugatz]

Believe that, Billy. They beat him.

[Mikey A]

You don't believe.

[Stugatz]

And by the way, Jaden Daniels, was there any doubt. And this is saying something, you know, when you're, when you consider the fact that we're talking about a rookie. When they got the ball back with just over four minutes to go, did you have any doubt that Tampa Bay was going to get the ball? Like, did you know right then and there the game was over? Because I did. Like he was going to take that thing right down to the end and Washington was going to win it. Why? Because he's Jaden Daniels.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. I mean, for, for, for fantasy purposes. I was hoping. A quick score, quick long touchdown.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

From Terry McLaurin. I really was hoping for it because then I had. I had some pat. I had some bucks that I could get. Get some points. I was hoping for some garbage time miracles, to be perfectly honest with you.

[Fuentes]

I didn't think it was over, but I'm like, Baker's gonna have to at least get a field goal with like a Minute left or something to win the game.

[Mikey A]

Can I, Can I?

[Stugatz]

He's so poised.

[Mikey A]

Jaden Daniels, him bleeding. Oh, who? Jaden.

[Stugatz]

Oh, Jaden.

[Mikey A]

Jaden. Cut on his face. The blood dripping down his face. And then the. I mean, once you see, like some of that. Because you saw like the little stitches or like the glue or whatever they do close, like, that's a little. A little cut. That's not. That's not a huge deal.

[Billy Gill]

It's nothing.

[Mikey A]

The blood all over the place. Bleeding from your face makes you look so cool.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Stugatz]

Regardless of who you are.

[Mikey A]

If you're like, in battle, I mean, remember how cool Tebow looked? And he wasn't even bleeding. He just, like, slid in red paint that was in a wet field in the end zone. It's like, wow, this guy looks like a badass. And it was just paint, Jada, with the blood down his face. Like, oh, my God.

[Stugatz]

Paint could do a lot for a.

[Billy Gill]

Guy on his little paper cut.

[Stugatz]

I mean, serious. Look at Mel Gibson in Braveheart without the pain. And then watch the scene with the.

[Fuentes]

This is a great point.

[Stugatz]

It's totally different, Guys.

[Mikey A]

Imagine Kiss if they all performed without paint on. You'd be like, these guys are kind of.

[Billy Gill]

These guys are just weird.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. These outfits.

[Fuentes]

Why is there so much leather?

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Who would you want to start a painting company with? Gojo or Golic?

[Mikey A]

Wow. For a year.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Fuentes]

I would hire a company.

[Mikey A]

We're opening our own Sherwin Williams.

[Fuentes]

But if you saw a painting company named the Goliks, you're like, wow.

[Stugatz]

The Golic Painting Company.

[Mikey A]

Senior. Honestly, looks like someone that would be behind the counter of a painting company.

[Stugatz]

I agree.

[Mikey A]

Like, he goes into the computer and goes. And it shoots like the right exact things, small glass.

[Billy Gill]

He gets excited when he sees a different kind of color. I haven't seen this one yet.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, this is going to look great. Gojo's the guy that carries, like, the heavy stuff to the car for you, like ladders and stuff.

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Right. Does he go on the jobs, though?

[Mikey A]

He also. No, he's like, sometimes he's missing.

[Fuentes]

His forearms are full of sunspots.

[Mikey A]

Where did Junior go? You don't know? Sometimes he's missing, just emerges from a van.

[Stugatz]

His excuse is he was always loading up another van.

[Mikey A]

Exactly. Right. Yeah.

[Fuentes]

It comes from behind the counter. Five gallon bucket of paint thinner, you know, dad, come on, stop listening at your role. He's like, I got this, son.

[Stugatz]

The Goliks.

[Mikey A]

The Goliks.

[Stugatz]

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[Mikey A]

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[Stugatz]

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[Mikey A]

Pretty smart, huh?

[Stugatz]

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[Mikey A]

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[Stugatz]

Billy.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Mikey a said something to me during the break.

[Mikey A]

What did he say?

[Stugatz]

I can't believe he said it.

[Mikey A]

What?

[Stugatz]

I was shocked when he said it.

[Mikey A]

You're gonna tell me what it is.

[Stugatz]

He said, Stu, I'm starting to get scared.

[Mikey A]

Wow.

[Stugatz]

I have no idea what he's scared about.

[Billy Gill]

You do, though.

[Stugatz]

I do.

[Billy Gill]

You do, though.

[Stugatz]

I have an idea of where this.

[Billy Gill]

Because you're scared, too.

[Stugatz]

All I did was look back at you and nodded. What are you scared of? What's going on?

[Billy Gill]

I'm scared. Who's going to be the jets coach, man?

[Stugatz]

Oh, really scared. Oh, you're starting to get scared? Really? Because on the weekend, even though the Patriot. The Patriots won the weekend, even though they didn't do anything, I mean, Brady.

[Billy Gill]

Starting to be rumors that Aaron Glenn's going to go to the Saints.

[Stugatz]

Right, Billy, Listen, before we get to why you're so scared, Billy has stages of rabel that we'll get to in just a second.

[Mikey A]

Stages of.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, I can't wa.

[Mikey A]

For.

[Billy Gill]

I can't wait for stages of ra.

[Stugatz]

But. But, Mikey, what is your concern? That the jets are going to hire a bad head coach? The wrong head coach.

[Mikey A]

What?

[Stugatz]

You're. Why are you scared now as opposed to before the weekend?

[Billy Gill]

Because this is my Super Bowl. When, like, off season. Like, this is the coach that's going to turn it around. How many times I've said that? This is the player we're going to draft in the first round that's going to turn it around. And don't take my super bowl and give me a bad one to start. Like, I don't want a bad head coach and a bad gm. And I'm worried they're leaning towards. They're leaning towards one that Miami Dolphin fans know well.

[Stugatz]

Oh, really? Flores?

[Billy Gill]

That'd be the one.

[Mikey A]

Do you not want Flores?

[Billy Gill]

I not not. You need a culture change, and a culture change doesn't come with the guy who told TUA you don't belong in the league.

[Stugatz]

Maybe he learned from that, though. That's all I'm saying.

[Mikey A]

Aaron Rodgers, you don't.

[Billy Gill]

You don't learn. You don't you don't change who you are.

[Mikey A]

That's.

[Billy Gill]

Who is.

[Mikey A]

He's done. Aaron Rodgers, right?

[Stugatz]

I'm not sure.

[Mikey A]

Really?

[Billy Gill]

No, I'm not sure.

[Stugatz]

I'm not sure.

[Mikey A]

I think he's done with the Jets.

[Stugatz]

I think. I don't know if he's done. I. I don't know if he's done with the Jets. I just. I'm not certain he's done playing football.

[Mikey A]

I saw. I saw videos of. Of the locker room after the jets win over the Dolphins, and he looked quite emotional. Like, he looked like he had been crying. Like I.

[Stugatz]

Like he played his last football game.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. Like he. He knew.

[Stugatz]

Right. But that happens, and then, you know, a couple of weeks go by, a couple of months go by, and then all of a sudden your ph. And you're like, whose number is this? And you let it go to voicemail because you don't want to answer the voicemails from Mike Tomlin, and suddenly, you know, the Steelers have interest in you. You know? I'm serious.

[Mikey A]

I mean, loser in Winners and Losers.

[Stugatz]

Oh, really? Back to that.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. We don't need the music. No, no, no, don't worry. Russell Wilson, big loser. Oh, my gosh. For a guy who Cigars for years has been saying, was playing his way out of the hall of Fame, starting.

[Stugatz]

To play himself back in, and then.

[Mikey A]

No, he played his way out of having a contract and a starting job. Talking three, four weeks ago.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

About the Steelers and like, yeah, you gotta sign Russ. Like, you got to give them like, 30 million. Like, don't give him like, a 50. You got to give them like, $35 million a year. Like, they found their quarterback. They're going to make it work.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

And the last, like, two, three weeks, you're like, oh, boy. No, they do not have a quarterback.

[Stugatz]

That's not their.

[Mikey A]

They need to figure out this quarterback situation again.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, they do. You're right. There's all kinds of speculation that Tomlin should, you know, and the Steelers should mutually part ways and all that. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Tomlin has a no trade clause. He could decide if they want to get rid of him. He could decide if he wants to go to that team or not. I will tell you this. If the Steelers get rid of Mike Tomlin and the jets don't hire him within the hour, I'm going to stop being a Jets fan. How about that?

[Billy Gill]

If you're Mike Tomlin joking, I laugh when. When I see Woody Johnson I was.

[Stugatz]

About to say, no, thank you.

[Billy Gill]

Click.

[Stugatz]

But I just called them overrated. Listen, for the Steelers, making the playoffs every season and losing is unacceptable. For the jets making the playoffs every year and losing, that's our Super Bowl.

[Mikey A]

The problem with.

[Stugatz]

Thank you.

[Mikey A]

The problem with the Steelers is like, they very clearly have hit a wall, right? Like every year. No, but it's like, look, we never, we can never, you know, we never have a losing season. We always, you know, whatever. But like, you also just. You can't get over that hump in the playoffs, right? And it's fine until you're kind of stuck. Like, that's where growing up, like the Dolphins were for the longest time. And it's like, oh, the Dolphins have the highest win percentage of any team ever. And it's like, yeah, but like, they can't win a playoff game and they can't go deep in the playoffs. It's fun. Like, fine, we never lose, but we also never actually win.

[Stugatz]

Right?

[Mikey A]

And that's kind of where the bunches be there.

[Billy Gill]

There are a bunch of retread coaches on that staff, though. It's always, it's. There's never. There's never some up and coming offensive or defensive coordinator that throws a wrinkle in and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, this is what got him over the hump. They just hire other.

[Stugatz]

They hire Arthur Smith. Right? Arthur Smith.

[Billy Gill]

They don't develop any coaches. They just hire them.

[Stugatz]

Right. It's going to be interesting to see what happens there. By the way, the Ravens play the Bills this weekend. What a game. I mean, it is such an amazing game. Lamar Jackson, who is awesome, against Josh Allen and they're playing for the right to go to Kansas City. I mean, it feels like there should be more for winning that game than having to travel to Arrowhead to take on Patrick Mahomes. I'm excited for that game, man.

[Mikey A]

What if Mike Tomlin goes to the Bears?

[Stugatz]

I mean, it seems like a good spot for him.

[Fuentes]

Yeah. When was the last time he developed a young quarterback? I don't think he ever has. He inherited Ben Ross. No, he's had a bunch.

[Stugatz]

He inherited Roethlisberger. That kept him a year too long.

[Fuentes]

Yeah, they had Russell Wilson. Now Kenny Pickett, he didn't do anything with.

[Stugatz]

No, no. Well, they traded Kenny Pickett. I could see him going to the Bears. My Tomlin. There are certain places where Mike Tomlin works. Chicago is one of them.

[Mikey A]

I.

[Stugatz]

And I think throw Mike Tomlin down here in Miami. Don't Work.

[Mikey A]

I also. I also think that Tomlin goes to, like, city commission meetings and stuff like that, like, to oppose them putting a roof on the stadium. He's like, we were going to play in Soldier Field. We're not moving.

[Stugatz]

Yep.

[Mikey A]

I like the history of this field.

[Stugatz]

If it doesn't snow. Generate snow.

[Mikey A]

Exactly right. Save the money for the roof and snow machine. Yeah, exactly right. You want to plow snow out of your driveway, bring it to Soldier Field and put it on my field. That's what I want. Bring snow from home. You know how the Bills have, like, you know, their fans, like, come in and plow the snow? It's like, no, no. Bring your snow from home.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Mikey A]

Throw it all over your seats. Exactly right. That's what he wants.

[Stugatz]

Why are you digging that snow out? Throw some on. I like Tomlin in Chicago.

[Mikey A]

Do too. Marcus Freeman. He can't leave.

[Stugatz]

He's not leaving.

[Mikey A]

Right. Like, that would.

[Stugatz]

He's not.

[Mikey A]

That would be wild.

[Stugatz]

It'd be stupid to leave Notre Dame.

[Mikey A]

I'm kind of with you. He's a made man there.

[Stugatz]

Right? He's a. Listen, Notre Dame. If you can win at Notre Dame, you'll have a job for the next 30 years.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

I mean, and college is closer to the NFL than it's ever been. Like, in terms of salary, in terms of everything. Exposure, all of it. Why would you want to go to Chicago when you're the head coach of Notre Dame, the biggest brand in college football? Why would you want to go to the Bears and get fired in three seasons?

[Mikey A]

Should we. And no is a perfectly acceptable answer on this. Should we be rethinking our reaction to that loss to Northern Illinois?

[Stugatz]

What do you mean?

[Mikey A]

I'm with you. I don't. I. No apologies.

[Stugatz]

We had a really big deal.

[Mikey A]

They should have stayed out of the playoffs. That loss.

[Stugatz]

I know.

[Billy Gill]

Terrible.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

I'm not going to. I'm not going to backtrack on that whatsoever. Bad loss. Hot seat.

[Stugatz]

I want to. I want Notre Dame to win the national championship. But we have Golic on the next day with the Northern Illinois coach.

[Mikey A]

If Notre Dame wins the national championship.

[Stugatz]

Yes. Claiming national championship. Yes.

[Mikey A]

If Notre Dame wins a national championship. I don't know that we're going to get go. Like, I think he's going to be on a tour.

[Stugatz]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Everyone's going to want to talk to him.

[Stugatz]

Not the new guys. Not Sam Hartman, by the way.

[Mikey A]

I don't know if you guys are privy to this, Mikey. I don't think you are. I don't know if you are Fuentes. Last week we spoke to Lucy, and we were previewing the games, Notre Dame game specifically. And we're talking about whether or not we're. We're whispering here amongst friends whether or not we were rooting for Notre Dame to win or lose. And then we all kind of said we were hoping that they would lose. Unless Jessica listens, in which case we were rooting for her and her team to do well. Because of course, we wanted. We're friends with her, we wanted to be happy, all of that stuff. Right?

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

Turns out she was listening and she reached out to us and just said, I'm listen. I'm paraphrasing here. So I don't want to. Something along the lines of I do listen a holes or something like that. It may not have been exactly that, but that was definitely the vibe.

[Stugatz]

It was.

[Mikey A]

Which was, she knows we were lying.

[Stugatz]

About a holes, I listened, or something like that. To which I responded, why?

[Mikey A]

Yeah, well, so who. Who do we want to win? Do we want Ohio State or do we want the Goalix and Jess to be happy?

[Stugatz]

Oh, wow.

[Mikey A]

Because I still maintain. I maintain bad business for the Goalix if Notre Dame wins.

[Stugatz]

Bad business, Right. Because the younger generation, Notre Dame guys, Kyle Rudolph's of the world, they become the Golics.

[Billy Gill]

But not only that, the Golix are so professional, they'll be willing to go on the media tour on why we lost, whereas everybody else is like, no, it's too emotional. I can't talk about the loss. The Golics will get more if they lose because the goal looks are professional.

[Stugatz]

As long as it pays. I mean.

[Billy Gill]

Well, of course.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Diabetes.

[Stugatz]

This law is brought to you by.

[Mikey A]

Seniors gonna be going around the super bowl, like, promoting stress balls like antidepressants.

[Stugatz]

It's a good question. Who do we want to lose more? I'm rooting for Ryan Day because it's absurd to think that if he wins a national championship, he's still in a bad season.

[Mikey A]

It'd be funny. If he wins the national championship, he gets fired.

[Stugatz]

It'd be great.

[Mikey A]

Just can't be Michigan, take the Bears job.

[Stugatz]

Ann Arbor, they're gonna throw a parade in Michigan if they win the national championship. I'm rooting for Notre Dame, man, I'm so torn because I love the Goalix, but it takes away the jokes that we, you know, play like a champion today. They're actual champions.

[Mikey A]

Well, they're not yet.

[Stugatz]

I know, but they're. I don't think they're Gonna win the game.

[Mikey A]

They're gonna have to take down the play like a college football semifinalist today. Sign if they win, and then they could put their champion sign back.

[Stugatz]

Quite mediocre today.

[Mikey A]

Didn't we say that to Marcus Freeman?

[Stugatz]

What?

[Mikey A]

I think we said.

[Billy Gill]

What's this we stuff Sign? I didn't say that. Who said students say that?

[Stugatz]

I think you said that. Yeah.

[Mikey A]

He's never coming on our show again. If he was a national championship. Our time with Marcus Freeman is over.

[Stugatz]

Well, no, I reached out to Notre Dame to get Marcus Freeman. They said if we win the national championship, we'll do something.

[Mikey A]

They said, ask the Bears.

[Stugatz]

I should put a request in today.

[Mikey A]

Yes, for the Bears. Listen, we know you and Marcus have this thing all tied up, so if he wins.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Mikey A]

Can you get. Can you get him on our show?

[Stugatz]

I'll send it to Notre Dame and copy the Bears.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, I like that. That's gonna piss no one off. That's a great idea. Just BCC them.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Oh, God. Freeman, stay put. Stay put. Don't go anywhere.

[Mikey A]

Hey, I have big board bets if you want next segment.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, we never got to. If the season ended today, we can.

[Mikey A]

Do that next segment, too.

[Stugatz]

All right, We'll. We'll weave in and out of your. Your big board bets. And if the season ended today, my. Yeah, I'm starting to get nervous. You're starting to get nervous?

[Mikey A]

What are you getting nervous about?

[Stugatz]

It. It's scared because we never make.

[Billy Gill]

Not nervous. I'm always nervous. Scared.

[Stugatz]

We never make the right decision. We never make the right decision.

[Mikey A]

If you could get one jets retread. So, like a Jets coach from your past, who would it be?

[Stugatz]

Probably Rex.

[Mikey A]

Really?

[Stugatz]

Yeah. You know, I'm Weeb. Yeah. You want a Super Bowl? I am. I'm scared, too, because we have quickly become the. The worst team in that. In that division again.

[Mikey A]

I mean, by the way, the answer.

[Billy Gill]

Is Bill Parcells, right? If you could get one retread, give me Bill Parcel.

[Stugatz]

No, I think the answer is Weeb.

[Mikey A]

I mean, but you're. It's not a time machine. You get present day Bill Parcels.

[Fuentes]

I was about to say, how old is Bill Parcel?

[Stugatz]

Yeah, like, don't care.

[Mikey A]

Really? You don't care?

[Stugatz]

Wait, do I. I have to get present day Weeb. He's been dead for 30.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Might be hard.

[Fuentes]

What's Mangini doing?

[Mikey A]

Bill's 83.

[Stugatz]

I would take Joe Walton.

[Mikey A]

Mangini. Mangini always thinks he's going to get the call, right? Like, he.

[Stugatz]

He's he's constantly sitting by a phone.

[Mikey A]

He thinks that he's doing the Mike Vrabel move where he's just taking the year off and he's always going to get the call and he's still kind of just waiting.

[Billy Gill]

He takes the dog for a walk and comes back and opens the door and go, hun. Anybody call? Yeah, anybody call?

[Mikey A]

I like that. I like that. Like, his family's like, we, we don't. Dad, we don't need a landline anymore. And he's like, I. I still need a voicemail. And he still had. And he has, like the old classic taste. He's like, play it back, Play it back. I didn't hear that. Who was that? I didn't hear the number.

[Stugatz]

What are we doing? The poor Eric Mangini. I don't know that guy.

[Billy Gill]

I don't know, but I like it.

[Stugatz]

He was the toast of New York at one time.

[Mikey A]

I hope he doesn't call on the Sopranos.

[Stugatz]

He was on the Sopranos. Oh, my God.

[Mikey A]

It'd be so funny to get a text from Eric Mangini. I don't have his number, but it was so funny. You get a text from Eric Mangini tomorrow. He's like, I listen. Bleep holes.

[Stugatz]

All right, we have one game this evening. Billy is getting his big board bets prepared for you. It is the Vikings. It is the Rams. The winner will move on to take on Philadelphia next week. The Lions have the commanders, so that's going to be. That's going to be interesting. Commanders, by the way, a year removed from getting rid of Daniel Snyder, his owner, getting rid of, you know, their head coach and bringing in Snyder, Saying no to Bill Belichick, by the way. And here they are, one of the final eight teams in the NFL. I mean, they made the right decisions. They did. I can't believe. Well, the main right decision they made was not getting rid of Snyder, was not getting rid of their head coach, was not saying no to Bill Belichick and hiring Dan Quinn. It was draft drafting Jaden Daniels because if all those other things were still in place, Jaden Daniels is so good, the Commanders would still be where they are today.

[Mikey A]

I thought it was the Eck move, right?

[Stugatz]

Well, the Eckler. The Eckler.

[Mikey A]

I miss him.

[Billy Gill]

He had a day.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, he did have a day.

[Mikey A]

I miss him.

[Billy Gill]

He would have been my winner.

[Stugatz]

I feel good for Austin Eckler. Losers. Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Did you see the video that someone put out?

[Stugatz]

And you know, Eckler loved. I don't care What? He says he's such a gentleman. He would never say it. He loved that he won. He advanced, and the Chargers lost. What a weekend for Eckler.

[Mikey A]

I don't know if he's wired that way.

[Stugatz]

He is wired that way.

[Mikey A]

Okay.

[Stugatz]

Okay.

[Mikey A]

Did you see the.

[Billy Gill]

Tom Telesco got fired.

[Mikey A]

I saw that. Tommy T. Well, he, he. That one. I think that. I think there was some bad blood there. Right. Because, like, when we spoke to him last year, he kind of was. Maybe he wanted to go play with Tom Tesco and he wanted to play in Las Vegas.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

And it seemed like he never got that call.

[Stugatz]

Right. Well, luckily, yeah. Yes.

[Billy Gill]

Well, when you can go get an.

[Mikey A]

Alexander Madison and Deion Sanders might be your coach next year.

[Stugatz]

Right?

[Mikey A]

Deion's reaching out to the Raiders. His people are reaching out to the Raiders saying he wants to be the coach here next year.

[Stugatz]

He's playing with Jaden Daniels. He's lucky he didn't get that call.

[Mikey A]

No, he is.

[Stugatz]

I mean, Mangini wanted that call, but.

[Mikey A]

He'S still waiting that call.

[Fuentes]

Mangini wants any call, any call.

[Stugatz]

Did someone call me? Anybody? So it's interesting. I, I. You guys don't think Jaden Daniels has a chance. The Commanders have a chance against the Lions. A lot of pressure on the Lions. No pressure on Jaden Daniels.

[Fuentes]

I don't, I mean, I think they have a chance, but I don't think that. I don't think that their defense is good enough to stop the Lions. Lions scored, like, 50 points, like, what, like four times this year or something like that or.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Fuentes]

Something crazy.

[Stugatz]

Who do you think the, who do you think the Eagles would rather face, the Rams or the Vikings? I know it's a crazy question based on record, but you want Stafford walking in there over Sam Darnold.

[Fuentes]

The Rams are weird because I feel like they can beat anybody at any time.

[Stugatz]

I would want. I would want them.

[Fuentes]

I'd rather have the Vikings.

[Billy Gill]

Same here.

[Mikey A]

Did. Did you lose faith in Jordan Love this year at all?

[Stugatz]

I mean, three interceptions. Ham was hurt.

[Mikey A]

I felt like we were coming in and, and we were ready to, like, anoint him the MVP of the league. And, like, the next got paid like, he was.

[Stugatz]

Well, I mean, he went to Dallas last year. Blew him out on the road in the postseason. Close game, I think, against San Francisco the next round. So he had to get paid. They had to pay him. Sure. Maybe he's not as good as we thought.

[Fuentes]

I mean, they paid him off two.

[Stugatz]

Games and he's missing Christian Watson in that spot. It's why. It's why I asked those questions with Sims every year. Do you play your starters in those? In that last regular season game, Watson got hurt. Love got his hand banged up. The packers kind of had to play their guys, though. So I don't know why you're down on Jordan.

[Billy Gill]

Have you lost more faith in C.J. stroud or Jordan Love? And I realized Stroud one.

[Stugatz]

I know, that's so crazy.

[Billy Gill]

He didn't play very well.

[Fuentes]

I also don't feel like Christian Watson's a needle mover for Jordan Love.

[Stugatz]

He's just a deep threat.

[Fuentes]

That's it. He's a. He's a guy that demands attention. But I don't think Jordan Love necessarily plays any better.

[Mikey A]

He. He also, by the way, converted that first down and his receiver just, I don't know, forgot where he was on the field and didn't even try to get his feet down in balance.

[Stugatz]

Right? Yeah. Why is lafleur never on the hot seat?

[Fuentes]

Good looking.

[Stugatz]

Any CD sits in Most good looking.

[Fuentes]

Guy on the field at all times.

[Mikey A]

Really?

[Stugatz]

I don't know about that.

[Mikey A]

I don't know about that.

[Stugatz]

Unless Freeman's on the field.

[Billy Gill]

What if, what if. Yeah, what if Marcus Freeman gets that Bears twice?

[Stugatz]

He's not. Tomlin's going to Chicago. I'm with Billy on this. That's the place to go.

[Billy Gill]

I'd love that.

[Stugatz]

Oh, so good. I mean, Chicago, another place that would take just getting to the playoffs every year and losing.

[Mikey A]

Did you. Did you guys see. We haven't talked about it yet. Did you see what James Franklin said before the game to Marcus Freeman?

[Stugatz]

What?

[Mikey A]

I mean, so he, he, I guess they spoke before the game or whatever and he said like, how old are you? And then he said something like, oh, you have like a great hairline or something like that. And there's speculation that that was used as added motivation for Marcus Freeman and Notre Dame was condescending James Franklin, kind of making it seem like, ah, you know, welcome to the party. Which, by the way, right? And James Franklin is the. Acting as the host of a party he's never been to is like the craziest thing.

[Stugatz]

Nuts.

[Mikey A]

Like, hey, yes, welcome, youngster. Now you know what it's like. It's like, now I know what it's like. Dude, this is your first time here also. What are you talking about?

[Stugatz]

Different ages, but we're getting here.

[Mikey A]

This is, this is not your house. What are you talking about?

[Stugatz]

James Franklin holding court as some cagey vet coach who has been there over and over again.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Is laugh out loud funny?

[Billy Gill]

I mean, I saw this tweet and it made me laugh so hard. Is James Franklin the Vince Lombardi of Mike Tomlinson? And it made me laugh so hard. It's so perfect. Is he the best at being Mike Tomlin? Yeah, kind of. Just. Just right up get there, then you're done.

[Stugatz]

No, but James Franklin doesn't even get there. He doesn't get that now.

[Billy Gill]

He does.

[Stugatz]

By the way, I would like a rule. If I repeat this on the main.

[Mikey A]

Show, like, I won't tell.

[Stugatz]

Just. Yeah. Between us, I think the fan. Every year after the regular season, there should be a vote where the fans could eliminate a team that's limping into the playoffs because they know that team's not any good and they could take a non playoff team who is really, really hot and insert them in.

[Billy Gill]

Trying to put Bengals in over.

[Stugatz]

The Bengals would have won that game.

[Fuentes]

That's what I'm saying.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, they would have.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, the Bengals would have won that game.

[Fuentes]

So you put him in over the Broncos.

[Stugatz]

No, over.

[Billy Gill]

No, you put him in over the Steelers.

[Stugatz]

I take the Steelers out. I put the Bengals in it. Steelers were limping into the playoffs. Broncos were hot going into the playoffs.

[Billy Gill]

Or would you have taken out the Texans at that point?

[Stugatz]

I would have taken said I would have taken out the Steelers.

[Billy Gill]

We all said last week we all said the Texans were the worst team in the.

[Stugatz]

You can only do it.

[Billy Gill]

I agree.

[Stugatz]

No division winners get in. You can only do it with the wild card team, guys. That's it.

[Billy Gill]

Okay, Texans.

[Fuentes]

Because the Texas, they won their division.

[Stugatz]

I take the Steelers out. I put the R. I put the Bengals in. And the Bengals are going to Buffalo this weekend.

[Mikey A]

Let's get some big board bets.

[Stugatz]

I mean, and who would want that? Yes, please. As opposed to what we got, which is something even better.

[Mikey A]

All right, Billy's big board breath brought to you by. We don't have a sponsor right now. These are bets that if I was in the draftkings state, I would be tempted to make. However, I'm not. All right, I've hit a bit of a. I've hit a bit of a skid since week 15. I am 3 and 11 since week 15. So I need a slump buster, which is Kyron Williams. Anytime. Touchdown.

[Stugatz]

I like it.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. I just need a win.

[Stugatz]

All right.

[Mikey A]

I need a win there.

[Stugatz]

So you went to your go to guy.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. Kyron Williams. He's had touchdowns in five of the last six weeks. I feel like he is our Guy.

[Stugatz]

Okay, so that is the first of Billy's big board bets. He is beating himself up because he is down over the last, what, three weeks?

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugatz]

Okay, big deal. You had a great season. All right.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, I mean, I'm still. It doesn't matter. I'm not gonna give you the numbers. Race against the clock here, Billy.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, it's a new season.

[Mikey A]

I'm 45 and 28 on the season. All right, my next one, Jordan Addison over four and a half reception.

[Stugatz]

Addison over four and a half. I'm guessing the theory there is a lot of the. A lot of the guys will be going after Justin Jefferson. They don't want Jefferson to beat him. Addison will get one on one coverage. Billy is taking Jordan Addison over four and a half completions on his big board.

[Mikey A]

He had one reception last week, but he had six targets. Last week was a weird one.

[Stugatz]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

For the Vikings, no one had a lot of things, but five of six weeks he has had the over on four and a half reception.

[Stugatz]

Okay, so one more bet here for Billy.

[Fuentes]

He was hot at the end of the season.

[Stugatz]

Jordan Addison was.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Fuentes]

Except for that last game.

[Stugatz]

Except for that last game.

[Mikey A]

All right, here's the fun one that we're gonna do. Jalen Naylor, over 17 and a half receiving yards. He had 53 last week against Detroit. He had 81 two weeks ago against the Packers. This is the guy that we're all going to be looking at and as soon as he gets that over and receiving yards for the game. Game. We're going to say, yes, we were in this together.

[Stugatz]

Is that what we're going to say?

[Mikey A]

Yeah, that's what we're all going to say collectively. I'm going to say, tweet that at me. Yes, we're in this together.

[Stugatz]

The oddest part of the show, God bless football, everyone. Was Mike saying he felt good for Terry McClure.