GBF - Security Golic and Zapruder Film Room

Summary

Episode Summary: GBF - Security Golic and Zapruder Film Room

Overview

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stu Gatz, alongside guest Chris Simms, delve into a multifaceted discussion encompassing NFL and college football insights, fantasy football strategies, and intriguing conspiracy theories related to the JFK assassination and Area 51. The conversation is lively, filled with humor, personal anecdotes, and spirited debates, making it a compelling listen for sports enthusiasts and curious minds alike.

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Section 1: NFL and College Football Insights

The episode begins with an in-depth analysis of current college football rankings and their implications for playoff selections. Guest Gordy provides a breakdown of recent ranking shifts, particularly highlighting Georgia's drop to 12th place and BYU's rise to 6th due to changes in strength of schedule and team performances.

Gordy [14:03]: "I was surprised with the strength of schedule and strength of resume Georgia has that they dropped as much as they did. They dropped nine spots right to number 12, which basically puts them out..."

The hosts debate the subjectivity inherent in the playoff committee's decisions, discussing whether teams like Colorado and BYU deserve automatic bids based on their performances and potential.

Gordy [17:44]: "Do you think the committee members are actively thinking, okay, let's use this one, but we could be setting this up for future ones..."

Section 2: Fantasy Football Strategies

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to fantasy football picks and strategies. The hosts share their weekly selections, analyzing team performances, player matchups, and potential outcomes.

Stu Gatz [27:36]: "I'm going to take the Chargers, I think in a close one. But I could see the upset happening. The Bills, the Bills Chiefs game, it's going to be really damn good."

This segment showcases the hosts' differing opinions and approaches to fantasy football, adding depth to the overall discussion.

Section 3: Conspiracy Theories - JFK Assassination and Area 51

Transitioning from sports, the conversation takes a turn towards historical conspiracies. Stu Gatz passionately argues against the lone gunman theory of JFK's assassination, proposing government involvement instead.

Stu Gatz [41:06]: "Well, the United States government killed JFK. Right. There's no doubt there's no doubt about that..."

The discussion extends to Area 51 and the existence of aliens, where the hosts explore hypothetical scenarios and share their personal beliefs.

Stu Gatz [50:34]: "I definitely would blame it on humans. I'm guaranteeing."

Humor intertwines with serious debate as they ponder the possibilities of extraterrestrial life and government cover-ups.

Section 4: Host Interactions and Anecdotes

Throughout the episode, personal stories and interactions add a layer of camaraderie and humor. For instance, Mojo discusses his attempts to uplift K. Funk's performance in their fantasy league, leading to playful banter and strategizing.

Mojo [100:21]: "I'm a man of my word. I said I wasn't picking the Bengals at all this year. Plus, I just interviewed Sean Merriman for TMZ Sports just an hour ago. So I am going to take the Chargers."

Additionally, the hosts brainstorm potential spin-off shows that blend their interests in sports and historical mysteries, highlighting their creative synergy.

Stu Gatz [45:25]: "We could solve like history's crimes and use football to see if we can solve crimes."

Section 5: Promotional Segments and Sponsor Messages

While the primary focus remains on content discussions, brief promotional segments for sponsors like Simplisafe and DraftKings are interspersed throughout. However, as per instructions, these are summarized succinctly without delving into specifics.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully balances sports analysis with engaging discussions on historical conspiracies, all while maintaining a humorous and personable atmosphere. The diverse range of topics and dynamic interactions among the hosts and guest make it a standout episode that caters to both sports aficionados and listeners intrigued by deeper, speculative conversations.

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Notable Quotes:

• Gordy on College Rankings:

  "I was surprised with the strength of schedule and strength of resume Georgia has that they dropped as much as they did. They dropped nine spots right to number 12, which basically puts them out..."
  [14:03]

• Stu Gatz on the JFK Conspiracy:

  "Well, the United States government killed JFK. Right. There's no doubt there's no doubt about that..."
  [41:06]

• Stu Gatz on Aliens:

  "Nah, they're high on life. They're doing really. That's why they're not stupid and they're not killing their own planets. They're out having a good time."
  [50:07]

• Chris Simms on Playoff Implications:

  "Mike, is a lot of this much to do about nothing because, like, Georgia will play Tennessee, right. Indiana will play Ohio State. These things will kind of sort themselves out."
  [16:05]

These quotes encapsulate the essence of the discussions, providing insight into the perspectives and motivations of the speakers.

Transcript

[Stu Gatz]

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[Chris Simms]

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[Stu Gatz]

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[Billy]

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[Stu Gatz]

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[Mojo]

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[Billy]

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[Chris Simms]

Billy, what do you think the odds are of overtime right now.

[Billy]

Very low, but we still have a chance of.

[Chris Simms]

There's no chance.

[Billy]

God bless football, everybody.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah, God bless football, Stu Gods.

[Chris Simms]

God bless football.

[Billy]

So right now the Eagles are up 26 to 10, but the commanders are driving. And if they get a touchdown, a two point conversion, an onside kick recovery, then another touchdown and another two point conversion, we can be facing some overtime here.

[Chris Simms]

We're not gonna do this.

[Billy]

Well, you never know.

[Stu Gatz]

Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

[Mojo]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

Can I tell you about something? Billy? Billy, Billy brought up Nick Sirianni and I had to put on my glasses to see this because I'm getting old.

[Billy]

Okay?

[Chris Simms]

I was sleeping 45 minutes ago. Billy said this is a big game for your boy, Nick Sirianni. A, he's not my boy. B, his career, his career record, okay? He's my boy. His career record is 41 and 19. He's been to the THR. The playoffs three consecutive seasons and was a play away from winning the Super Bowl. Like, like the whole or the whole conversation is ludicrous. That's all I'm saying.

[Billy]

This big, big bounce back game for him. I mean seven and three commanders, we have a big episode today, by the way, if you're listening now. And as you can tell, we're doing this Thursday night as this game is winding down. We have Chris Sims, we have Mike Golick, we have studio God's picks. We, we have a regular guys coming back to make their weekly picks. Carl and Mojo and the crew. And also, spoiler alert, we're going to get to the bottom of the JFK assassination with Chris Sims.

[Stu Gatz]

Yes.

[Billy]

Which I know.

[Stu Gatz]

And aliens.

[Billy]

And. And aliens, which I never thought would be a conversation we'd have, but that's coming up. And by the way, only because we.

[Chris Simms]

Couldn'T get Oliver Stone.

[Billy]

By the way.

[Mojo]

You still with us?

[Billy]

Yeah. What would happen to Oliver?

[Chris Simms]

I was asking. I was not. I was not. Don't find me. I was just asking.

[Billy]

No fines here. Up, up. Touchdown. Here we go. Need a two point conversion. Touchdown. 26, 16. Yeah. By the way, God Bless Football is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company New York, New York. This is fun, huh? Watching the end of the game together.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, it's great.

[Billy]

Is it?

[Chris Simms]

Been doing this for 30 years and I'm up on Thursday night with you two. Watch.

[Billy]

This is, I mean, 7 and 3 versus 7 and 2. This was looking like it was going to be a great game. And then it Turned into a total crap game. And now here at the end, it's turning out into it. Maybe. Maybe an okay game.

[Stu Gatz]

Come on, Stu, we're the same age.

[Billy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

And of course. Right. I can't believe you're up this late. I mean, Mikey, this will be the third consecutive game that Jaden Daniels did. He just saw that touchdown pass.

[Billy]

Yeah, he did.

[Chris Simms]

Okay, so it would have been his third consecutive game. It was a garbage touchdown. It doesn't count. Third consecutive game without a touchdown. Last three games he's thrown one. He hasn't been great. And they haven't been great. Last three games.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

No. Has the league caught up to him?

[Billy]

Oh, wow. Can you have a sophomore slump your rookie season?

[Chris Simms]

Yeah. The second half of your first season.

[Billy]

Here we go. This is the play of the game so far. Two point conversion, 26 to 16. Oh, he's scrambling. He's scrambling. Oh, they got him. Oh, no, he's running away. Oh. Oh, no one's open. Oh, that's a pass interference. Wow. They got away with when he pushed back out of bounds. That seems like this is going to wrap up the game. Ten points now, Billy, I don't think.

[Chris Simms]

You can do play by play.

[Billy]

I mean, this airs tomorrow. We're fine.

[Stu Gatz]

This airs tomorrow, all right.

[Billy]

Or I mean, I mean, it airs right now. Whatever date is it aired yesterday, I guess, if you're listening, on a Saturday or two days ago on a Sunday. Oh, you know what? He may have caught that. No, that second foot didn't get down. Zach Gertz, huh? Still in the league.

[Chris Simms]

Still at it.

[Billy]

Yeah, still at it.

[Chris Simms]

Revenge game, I think.

[Stu Gatz]

I think. I think May maybe two touchdowns ago.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah. At seven, nothing, Right.

[Billy]

Yeah. Anyway, so exciting week. You guys ready for. What week is this? Week 11.

[Chris Simms]

It is week. Week 11. Big weekend. You have the Ravens and the Steelers. You have the Bills and the Chiefs. It's going to be a fun weekend. It's a great weekend.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

Good college games.

[Billy]

What are you most looking forward to on this episode, guys?

[Stu Gatz]

Oh, talking about jfk.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Billy]

You know what I'm looking forward to? Our weekly fantasy contest. Go to DKNG Co Smirnoff if you want to compete against us. $3 buy in. And if you watch on the YouTube or you watch on the DraftKings network, I already let you know I'm taking all your money this week.

[Chris Simms]

All right? Billy, can I ask you a question?

[Billy]

Ooh, they're reviewing the play. We're still alive. Yes.

[Chris Simms]

What's the question, Sims?

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

Weird dude, huh?

[Billy]

Because he spent so much time doing his own research on JFK and aliens.

[Chris Simms]

I'm just saying. Okay. I am. I'm. I'm asking you the question. I don't find him to be weird. I love him. He's a good friend of mine.

[Billy]

Hold on.

[Chris Simms]

I think you find him to be a little bit.

[Billy]

No, no, no, no. You're not going to do that to me. Where you have declared him a weird guy and now you're trying to pawn that up onto me.

[Chris Simms]

I just asked a question. I mean, all I did.

[Billy]

That's going to be a catch, by the way, that we're going to. We're going to have an eight point game and they're going to have to kick an onside kick here, by the way.

[Chris Simms]

Nothing wrong with weird Weir. Cool. I love him to death. And if he's weird, he's weird. Big deal. I'm weird. Anyway. What? Mike, Let me.

[Stu Gatz]

I. I'd like to let the audience a little behind the curtain. So before Sims signed on. Stupid stuff. Oh, boy.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

What happened?

[Billy]

It's an eight point game now today point.

[Chris Simms]

What's gonna happen?

[Billy]

They just. They overturned the.

[Chris Simms]

No, but what do you guys think is. I get what. I get what happened. What do you think is going to happen?

[Billy]

Well, now there's an outside kick and if they get the ball back, it's an eight point game. That's one score. They have 28 seconds to score. Another touchdown, another two point conversion.

[Chris Simms]

I don't like that you have to declare the outside kick.

[Billy]

Me neither. I mean, everybody knows I hate it anyways, but I don't. I don't.

[Chris Simms]

No, I know, but I still. I mean, come on. Declare. It takes the element of surprise out of it once in a while.

[Billy]

Getting Nick Sirianni would be a fun hang.

[Chris Simms]

Yep.

[Billy]

Really?

[Mojo]

No.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

Not a chance. Why?

[Chris Simms]

He takes himself way too seriously.

[Stu Gatz]

He's way too seriously. He's the kind of guy where you. You say a joke and he yells at you because it's factually incorrect.

[Chris Simms]

You know what he does? He gets you. He gets you and your friends into a massive fight and walks away like.

[Billy]

He'S that guy with other people. Right? Like not you guys.

[Chris Simms]

He gets you guys in a fight with other people and he's not involved in the fight, but he starts it.

[Billy]

But he doesn't.

[Chris Simms]

He doesn't participate.

[Billy]

Yeah, probably.

[Chris Simms]

That's. Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah.

[Billy]

All right, here's the.

[Chris Simms]

I love him, though.

[Billy]

Big onside kick.

[Chris Simms]

Mikey. Can you imagine having a four year Mikey? We're Jeff Fitz, 41 and 19. Super Bowl. Can you imagine?

[Stu Gatz]

No.

[Chris Simms]

Right. Fire him.

[Billy]

Terrible kick.

[Stu Gatz]

Get rid of him.

[Billy]

Terrible. Well, that'll.

[Stu Gatz]

That'll do it for that.

[Billy]

So that'll probably wrap things up. Should we get to the episode 26 to 18? Hey, would you guys want Deon as your coach? Do we get to that in this episode? I think we do.

[Chris Simms]

I would.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

I got fedora, right?

[Billy]

Would you like.

[Chris Simms]

Wait, am I getting Shador?

[Billy]

Would you want him without Shador? Because I was seeing. I was seeing out there. Hey, would Jerry Jones hire Deion Sanders to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys? But they have Dak, right? So unless they trade Dak because they drafted Shador, which. Why would they do that anyways? Would. Would you want Dion without Shador?

[Chris Simms]

Would you, Mike?

[Stu Gatz]

I. I would rather Shadoor without Dion than Dion without Shador.

[Chris Simms]

Well, you would always take the player over the coach, the quarterback, because it's unknown whether either of them would be good in the NFL. And I'll take the unknown quarterback over the unknown coach. So I'm with you on that. Hey, I'm doing that. Yeah, the Eagles are really good. Sirianni is a good coach. Jalen Hurts is an MVP candidate.

[Billy]

There you go.

[Chris Simms]

I put you guys to one.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

You know, he's now 42 and 19.

[Billy]

All right, well, that's it. Who are we going to first here?

[Stu Gatz]

Let's go to Golic.

[Billy]

Oh, the man that didn't let us into his.

[Stu Gatz]

Find out. Find out Golic's dream job.

[Billy]

Oh, God, I forgot about that. That was a good episode.

[Chris Simms]

Wait, Billy, I have a question for you.

[Billy]

Yeah, Golic.

[Chris Simms]

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[Gordy]

I was surprised with the strength of schedule and strength of resume Georgia has that they dropped as much as they did. They dropped nine spots right to number 12, which basically puts them out because as long as a group of five is below the 12 slot, they get the 12 slot and knock the 12 slot out. So Georgia, while technically at the 12 slot, isn't really there because Boise State was 13, they would move to 12. I think they did a little bit of course correction on BYU and I know in the ESPN show Greg McElroy had been talking about how BYU got disrespected the first week and they did a course correct. And Reese Davis said he didn't think it was. It was because Georgia and Miami lost. So they just naturally fell below byu. But BYU and Indiana both jumped Tennessee. Tennessee stayed at 7 and Indiana went from 8 to 5 and BYU went from 9 to 6. So I do think it was a little bit of a correction for BYU to give them a little more love.

[Chris Simms]

Do you think the committee. Mike, do you want to see Colorado get into the playoff and do you think the committee wants to see Colorado get into the playoff?

[Gordy]

Oh, no, they don't want to see him get into the playoffs. I mean, this is just going to go to the. Should conference champions be in the play or get automatic spots? Because outside I think the Sun Belt, I think all the conferences took away divisions. So do you just go to who wins the regular season conference and don't have that extra game? Because quite honestly, you could have the extra game playing the conference championship game, lose it and be out of the playoffs and somebody in the conference could have not made the championship game, not had to play that extra game and still be in the playoffs. So there's going to be, you know, flaws to every system. And quite honestly, do you take the human element out of it? Do you go back to the old BCS computer? You know, I mean, you looked at, you looked at the four playoff teams picked by the committee over the years and if you put the, basically the computer, the old BCS computer in there, a lot of times it was the same four teams. Well, now it's 12. Now it's a little bit more now. It's, It's. It's. So 4 was subjective. 12 is subjective, but obviously with more teams. So do you take the human element out of it and just put all the information in a computer and let it spit out to 12 teams?

[Chris Simms]

Billy, did you hear what I heard? I mean, all of a sudden Golic is into the BCS again, huh?

[Billy]

Longing for the BCS is all I heard.

[Chris Simms]

I.

[Gordy]

Listen, I. I had. I had no problem. Now the BCS was just two teams. Obviously, the committee was four teams, not our bcs.

[Billy]

It was six last year.

[Gordy]

No, believe me, I' still waiting to pull my hammy whenever you do the show.

[Billy]

Longing for our bcs. Remember we. We flirted with the idea of adding Lucy to the committee, which, you know, could help you out because maybe it'll give us some more credibility. Maybe things will be somewhat under control.

[Gordy]

Well, yeah, I mean, that would certainly class it up a bit. There's no doubt about that.

[Billy]

Mike, is a lot of this much to do about nothing because, like, Georgia will play Tennessee, right. Indiana will play Ohio State. These things will kind of sort themselves out.

[Chris Simms]

And the committee knows that, Billy. Right.

[Gordy]

So. So what, what. Why I look at where the rankings are. BYU going to 6, I think is important because if they were to lose in the Big 12 championship game to Iowa State or probably Colorado, then while that Colorado, let's just say it's Colorado, would have an automatic bid. I think BYU is high enough to where they wouldn't drop out. They could still make the playoffs.

[Chris Simms]

Where I.

[Gordy]

So I think the Big 12 could possibly get two teams. And if Indiana were to lose Ohio State, BYU will move up another spot to at least number five. So I think the Big 12 has a chance to get two teams in. The ACC is down to one with Miami being the highest seed now at nine, that they're going to have one team. It's going to be Miami and SMU or possibly Clemson, but probably Miami and SMU. Winner's going to be in, loser is going to be out, and they're going to have one representative.

[Billy]

How much of that do you think the committee factors in? Because, like, you've said that you would love to be part of the committee one day. Do you think that there are committee members who are actively thinking, okay, let's use this one, but we could be setting this up for future ones and like, this is a good team, but if they slip, if we have them here, they'll fall out. But if we put them two spots higher, they'll Stay in. So they, not that they're protecting teams or kind of trying to, you know, set it up for, for failure potentially. But do you think some of that is going on?

[Gordy]

I don't think there's anything wrong with positioning teams. No. I mean and you hear different things out of the committee every week. It's supposed to be a week to week thing which I, I get. But I mean I, I think BYU deserves to be in a position to where if they were to lose now again, if they got blown out, maybe you think differently. But if it was a close game that they could still be in the top 12 and if they were ranked 10, that wouldn't happen. If they were ranked nine or eight, maybe that even wouldn't happen. But six or five, they have a good shot. So I do think you, you, you have to have a little bit of foresight.

[Billy]

It's also a very different season. Right. Where the undefeated team isn't really a thing. Like outside of Oregon being undefeated you'll have like an Indiana and a BYU who are still undefeated but everyone's lost. Right. So there's nothing wrong with a one loss. BYU being 12th in the country and getting in.

[Gordy]

Oh no, there's going to be a two loss team, maybe a couple of two loss teams that, that get in. Alabama sitting at 10. So if they, they don't move, they're going to be in there. There could be a couple of two loss SEC teams in there. I mean Texas A and M and Texas still have to play as you mentioned, Georgia and Tennessee still have to play Ohio State and Indiana have to play Ohio State at number two. Think about Ohio State. Yeah, so they had a one point loss to Oregon. If they were to lose a close game to a committee's number five Indiana, now they're not playing in a conference championship game. So the most, as long as they win the rest of their regular season games, the most they can have is two losses. They're going to be in the top 12. Right. I mean they're a close loss to Indiana who is at 5 is not going to make OSU fall out of the playoffs. Just not going to happen. So there could actually be a benefit to not playing in a conference championship game where you're basically you're done and you're locked in and don't have the threat of losing a conference championship game.

[Billy]

We talked about it last week a little bit, but I think as we're getting closer it seems less likely that a three loss team or multiple three loss teams are going to make it.

[Gordy]

In if it, if it is, it's an SEC team for sure.

[Chris Simms]

If it is. Right.

[Gordy]

Yeah. Well, Georgia. No, Georgia loses to Tennessee, they're done. They're already, the committee already right now they're out.

[Billy]

So if they lose, they're going to fall further.

[Gordy]

So if they get a third loss, there's no shot that they're in the playoffs. I do not, I do not think there will be a three loss team in the playoffs.

[Stu Gatz]

Mike, you mentioned Miami before and considering how they won all their games, you know, nail biters at the end and miraculous comebacks and then losing to Georgia Tech, are you surprised they only dropped four or five spots? What? Did they drop five spots?

[Gordy]

Yeah, they dropped, they dropped five spots. I am surprised a little bit because they've been living on the edge for weeks and living on the edge against, all right, teams, not great teams. Okay. Teams they've been having needed Cam Ward to pull their butts out of the fire and that just didn't happen against Georgia Tech. So I was surprised they fell. I, I mean, I, I get it. They, they, the committee's saying they were still undefeated before they lost. But if you look at some of their losses, I mean, I, or some of their wins, they were, they were very, very close. So. But I think to Billy's point, they're in a position now to where if they lose the conference championship game, they're going to be out, they're at nine. They're going to fall outside the top 12.

[Chris Simms]

If the Canes lose another game, they're out of the playoffs is what you're saying. Is what you're saying. And you're right.

[Gordy]

Oh, absolutely right.

[Chris Simms]

Any game. It could be Syracuse, final regular season game of the year.

[Gordy]

Exactly.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Gordy]

There is there. Including the conference championship, there's not going to be a two loss ACC team, I don't think. Unless it's the automatic qualifier somehow, some way. That would be the only way.

[Billy]

Well, could they be a two loss team that doesn't make the conference championship and makes it in because they're stronger than the conference champion?

[Gordy]

Well, no, a conference champion has an automatic bid.

[Stu Gatz]

Right.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Gordy]

And if Miami gets a second loss before the conference championship game, they're at nine now they get a second loss, now they're, they're done. I mean, there, there's, there's no way they'll be in the top 12.

[Chris Simms]

Mike, will you be attending the Notre Dame army game in a couple of weeks at Yankee Stadium?

[Gordy]

I will. I will not. I usually have to travel on that day for my Sunday game.

[Chris Simms]

Because, Mike, I was thinking, like, Notre Dame's gonna get in whether they win that game or not. Army has no chance of getting in if they lose that game. And perhaps you should talk to the folks over at Notre Dame and, you know, maybe figure out a way for our armed forces, the people that protect this country, to possibly get into the playoff. What do you think?

[Gordy]

Notre Dame is absolutely, positively not guaranteed a spot if they lose.

[Billy]

Oh, come on.

[Chris Simms]

They're in. I mean, come on.

[Billy]

They're listening regardless.

[Gordy]

They're sitting at 8. They can only be 9, 10, or 11. If a group of 5 is outside the top 12, because that 12 spot is a death spot, you get knocked out. I think if Notre Dame loses the Army, I don't. I do not think they're making the playoffs.

[Chris Simms]

I'm kind of with Billy where I feel like the committee is going to put. They would be the three lost team that could get in Notre Dame. No.

[Gordy]

No way. No way.

[Chris Simms]

Not a chance.

[Gordy]

No three lost team will be an SEC team if there is, but I don't think there will.

[Billy]

Well, I mean, they'd only have two if they lost to army right now's getting in. Mike, come on, don't worry about this. Don't stress this situation.

[Gordy]

Lose the Army. I'm telling you, they're not getting it.

[Billy]

They don't have a conference game game to lose. So they'll be fine. They're fine. Don't worry.

[Chris Simms]

But, Mike, if you're going to lose and not make the playoff, the team that you would want to lose to is the Army. Right?

[Gordy]

If, if, if you go that route, yes, I would rather them lose the army than. Than lose to Virginia or usc. Certainly not usc.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Gordy]

They were to drop a game. I would rather be the army than anybody. I'd rather them not drop a game, believe me. But, yes, it would be to Army.

[Chris Simms]

He hates this conversation. He does. He just. He hates.

[Billy]

I understand why.

[Chris Simms]

I just put him in such a bad spot. Like, you know, he's going like. Everyone knows who Mike is and how much Mike appreciates the military, and we're putting him in a terrible spot doing that.

[Stu Gatz]

You.

[Gordy]

You thrive on doing that.

[Chris Simms]

Mike, how would you feel? Billy and I were discussing this on the show the other day. How would you feel if in the NFL there was a selection committee and they selected who the playoff teams were going to be?

[Gordy]

Oh, I would hate it. Yeah, I like it all decided on the field. I would hate the subjectivity of that.

[Chris Simms]

Really?

[Gordy]

No, no, no. Don't give me that unless I'm on the committee.

[Billy]

Yeah. Do you just want to be on committees in general?

[Chris Simms]

He loves me.

[Gordy]

This college football committee seems to eat really well.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, it's only gears in my belly. You can buy food.

[Gordy]

I'd rather. I'd rather have it given to me.

[Stu Gatz]

Where.

[Billy]

Where's the line, like, for committee? Like, you want to be like, the HOA committee. You want to be like, school board? Like, where's the line for you?

[Gordy]

I want to. I want to. When I'm done with everything, I'd like to be the security guy that drives around in the truck with the. With the development's name on the side of it, like, grail, you know?

[Billy]

And what would you be doing?

[Chris Simms]

You just drive around.

[Gordy]

Yeah, right.

[Chris Simms]

He's talking about, like, fake security. It's not real. No, I know.

[Billy]

Like, flashlight. Like, if you see something, you know, you know, teens, skateboards. What do you do? Like. Like point of flash, I think. Keep them.

[Gordy]

No, it would take a lot for me to get out of my car. It's just about having a presence.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Billy]

Okay. Would you want, like, one of the little. Not a blue and red one, obviously, because you wouldn't want to be impersonating a cop, but maybe like, a yellow, like, siren on the top. You just hit, like, a thing, like a. Oh.

[Gordy]

Oh, absolutely. Moving along, kids.

[Chris Simms]

Moving along. Yeah. Plus, it makes it official.

[Billy]

What a strange dream.

[Gordy]

And then have all the kids swear at me. Look at this. Rent a cop, right?

[Chris Simms]

What is keeping you from pursuing. Yeah, come on. What is keeping you from doing this? I mean, you as a Whacking Hut security guy would be great.

[Gordy]

Oh, listen, because I'm doing a show every day with my son and calling games on the weekends. I mean, how much do you want to bog me down here? I'm in semi retirement.

[Billy]

12 to 4, you know, in the afternoon. What are we doing? Let's drive around.

[Gordy]

Golfing, hopefully. Golfing.

[Billy]

Okay. I'm looking up for you now. Like, at police auctions. Retired police cars. Maybe we can kind of get you one. You could just drive around.

[Chris Simms]

Yes.

[Billy]

For you or something.

[Gordy]

Mike, I don't really want to fake it right now. I'd actually like to have a job as a development security person.

[Billy]

Oh, God. You're fine. You don't need to. You don't need to be paid whatever it is that they're paid. You're okay. Oh, I found one.

[Stu Gatz]

Pay him in a spread.

[Billy]

Yeah, he just wants food.

[Gordy]

That would be part of the deal that I get three squares yeah.

[Chris Simms]

Mike, what is the long shift?

[Billy]

Three squares.

[Stu Gatz]

I was gonna say a four hour shift. He wants three squares, right?

[Billy]

Crazy.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, it's unbelievable.

[Billy]

I found you a 2008 Dodge Charger sedan, retired police car for twelve hundred dollars, Mike.

[Gordy]

Oh, wow.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Gordy]

Seeing twelve hundred bucks is fine because I only needed to drive in the neighborhood.

[Billy]

Yeah. You know, I mean, air conditioning maybe.

[Chris Simms]

I mean, twelve hundred dollars is two stops. Radio, road, talking about diabetes. I mean, that's what it is, right? Who? That's half.

[Gordy]

That's half a stop.

[Chris Simms]

Who?

[Gordy]

You.

[Billy]

Don'T know who you're talking to.

[Chris Simms]

Half a stop. So what are you saying? That's seven and a half minutes of a 15 minute interview with 94.7 the bone in New Orleans. Yeah. Yes. Oh, God. Mike, of the NFL games, it's such a big NFL weekend. Which game are you most excited for? You have Steelers and Ravens. You have Bills and Chiefs. It's a great weekend in the NFL. Is there one that stands out for you?

[Gordy]

I mean, those are the two. You know, the Chiefs winning 15 in a row, but they're kind of. Kind of just pulling games out. It's amazing. It wouldn't. Would it shock anybody if the Bills won this game? And I don't know who had the Steelers at the top of the division, man, going into the season when they had two quarterbacks to say you have two quarterbacks, you have none. But they had no, no real tie to either Justin Fields or Russell Wilson. They could go with either one. And now Mike Tomlin looks like a genius even though Justin Fields went 4 and 2. He switches to Russell Wilson and it's worked. The Ravens offense is just incredible. But they're back. The back end of the defense just given up so many chunk plays. But the thing about it is the Steelers. Well, I. Aren't a monster passing team. They're a better passing team with Russ than Justin Fields. And Russ always has thrown the best deep ball, you know, and Mike Williams has been a recipient of that. George Pickens has been a recipient to that. And Baltimore has shown propensity to give up the big play. So that's something Baltimore has gotten. I don't know how they're going to fix it, but they have to try and fix it.

[Chris Simms]

Mike, what are the Colts doing with Anthony Richardson? I mean, it's ridiculous.

[Stu Gatz]

Listen.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Gordy]

Even though we don't think they're a playoff team, a couple of weeks ago they were. They were in the hunt for the, for the. The AFC wild card.

[Chris Simms]

Yes.

[Gordy]

And quite honestly, they still are.

[Chris Simms]

I mean, technically, if, if.

[Gordy]

Yeah, if you look at it, they kind of still are. Now, do we think they're a playoff team? Not really. But I think a couple of weeks ago, Shane Steichen owed it to the other 52 guys in the locker room to make it to take a shot. Because Anthony Richardson was not playing well. And he wasn't alone. He wasn't alone, but he wasn't playing well turning the ball over. So see, if that Joe Flacco magic like he had in Cleveland would come back. It didn't. So now you go back to Anthony Richardson and you keep him in. Now, you don't play musical chairs at the quarterback position. Now you keep him in. Unless he is just completely lost out there. You. You let him. You let him play the string out.

[Chris Simms]

Billy, what are you laughing at?

[Billy]

There?

[Chris Simms]

I see you're typing. You're looking up something. What are you laughing at?

[Billy]

I found you a 2011 Ford Crown Victoria. Oh, and it has the bumper on the front and everything. This is a nice looking former police car, Mike.

[Gordy]

Oh, the bumper on the front where I could tap something if I need.

[Billy]

Yeah, if you had to. It's a good one.

[Gordy]

Just the threat of tapping something, I think is key.

[Stu Gatz]

It's black stand, perhaps.

[Billy]

It has the white doors here. It plenty of room to kind of put your own personalized deal decal on there. Golic Security or whatever you want.

[Gordy]

And Mike. Yeah, you're right. I mean, does the lemonade stand. Do they have a permit?

[Billy]

That's a great question, right?

[Gordy]

Are they able find out.

[Billy]

Yeah, you'll get to the bottom of that. I have.

[Gordy]

Or is it a rogue lemonade stand? I'll get to the bottom of it.

[Chris Simms]

I'd like to come up with some scenarios for next week, if we could of if Mike were a security guard driving around and certain things happen in the neighborhood, how he would handle said things. You know what.

[Gordy]

What I would get out of the car for.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Billy]

Well, I imagine the lemonade stand. And you know, not to. Not to put out there that you may be able to be bought. But if someone hands you a cold cup of lemonade, I think maybe we look the other way. You say, you know what? Just get your affairs in order. We'll be back tomorrow.

[Gordy]

It depends on the transgression. I may have to leave there with a couple of cups and some snacks.

[Billy]

Right? Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

I love the idea. I love the idea of burglars using food to lure Mike out of the car.

[Billy]

Like he's Yogi Bear or something.

[Mojo]

Right.

[Chris Simms]

And they Start. Start robbing.

[Billy]

He just, like, floats out of his car and his nose is, like, smelling the Yogi Bear and he's floating.

[Chris Simms]

Oh, man. Check him out. Gojo and golic every day, 8 to 10am Eastern on the DraftKings network and wherever you get your podcast. Do you have a game this weekend, Mike?

[Gordy]

I do. I am doing the Bengals at the Chargers.

[Chris Simms]

Nice.

[Gordy]

In la.

[Chris Simms]

Chargers. Sneaky. Good, Mike.

[Gordy]

Yeah, Chargers are. I mean, we thought it'd be a year or so for Jim to build the team he wants, but, boy, that defense has come along quickly on the offense. Herbert obviously still throwing the ball well, but not to the. Not to the. Quentin Johnston is having himself a nice year.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, they're.

[Gordy]

They're a surprise team. Yeah, I do that Sunday game, and then I pick up a quick Thursday game. I do next Thursday. Pittsburgh at Cleveland.

[Chris Simms]

Nice.

[Billy]

You can skip that one. Okay. Yeah, that's fine.

[Chris Simms]

What Billy is saying is he's gonna skip that one. I mean.

[Billy]

No, no. We actually have a watch party for that one. Mike, you had a. We thought it'd be a good one last Sunday, but, like, sneaky, good game. And it was looking like it wasn't going to be at the beginning. It was looking like the Texans were going to blow them out.

[Gordy]

Then, sure enough, 23 7, Houston outscores Detroit in the first half and then 19, zip. In the second half. Yeah, it was. Was a tale of two games, for sure.

[Chris Simms]

All right, Mike, we. We know you have to run Arizona. We loved it, by the way. Fantastic. Beautiful spot. We left a gift in the mailbox. I hope you guys got it. So, I mean, thank you for letting me say that.

[Gordy]

I'm afraid to look at any gift that you send because I have no idea what it's going to do.

[Chris Simms]

That's not nice. I mean.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah, come on.

[Gordy]

It's either alive or white powder. So I don't know.

[Stu Gatz]

Oh, depends on the white powder.

[Chris Simms]

The white powder I left in the bathroom, Mike. All right, have a good weekend. It is time for this week's edition of Stu gouts, presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. College Football Week 12, 5 and 7 a week ago. 56, 51 and 2 on the season. Not terrible. Blaine Gabbert. Let's get to the games. Texas minus 13 and a half. They're taking on Arkansas. It's at Arkansas. Arkansas buy it down to 13. Texas wins and they cover Texas by 17 points on the road. Colorado minus 11. Take it on Utah. Colorado wins and they cover Colorado by 21 points at home over Utah. Liberty -14 and a half at UMass. UMass. Terrible. Liberty pretty good. But I have a terrible team versus a pretty good team. I take the team that's pretty good. Liberty is minus 14 and a half. Buy it down to 14. Liberty wins the game. Liberty covers. They win by 21 points on the road. Jacksonville State. Billy's not going to be happy. Minus 14. Taking on FIU. Buy it down to 13 and a half. I'm taking Jacksonville State to win by 17 points. Georgia Southern minus seven and a half. Take it on, Troy. Buy it down to seven. Georgia Southern wins. They cover Georgia Southern by 10 points. Illinois minus three. Take it on Michigan State. Buy it down to two and a half. Illinois wins and covers. They win by 10 points at home. Oregon taking on Wisconsin. Wisconsin not very good. Oregon might be the best team in the country. Buy it down to 13 and a half. I'm taking Oregon to win and cover. They win by 21 points. Big game this weekend. Tennessee, Georgia, SEC clash. Tennessee getting 10 points. Georgia should not be favored by 10 points over anyone at this point, but they are. I'm taking Tennessee. Georgia wins the game. Tennessee covers Georgia by a field goal. Memphis minus 14 ticket on UAB. Buy it down to 13 and a half. Memphis wins by 17 points. BYU minus two and a half. They're taking on Kansas. Kansas. They have the audacity that they're going to stroll into Provo, Utah on a Saturday night and get a win. They're not BYU. Will they win? They cover BYU by 10 points at home. NFL Week 104 and 3 a week ago 45, 272 on the season. I am on a heater. I really am. Lions minus 13. Taking on the Jaguars. Lions win. They cover. Buy it down to 12 and a half. The Lions win by 21 points at home. Ravens minus three at the Steelers. I'm digging the Ravens here. It's two and a half. Buy it down to two and a half. I'm taking the Ravens to win and cover. The Ravens by seven points on the road. Dolphins. They bounced back last week. Now they're home this week. They're taking on the Raiders. It's minus seven. I like the Dolphins. They are still in the mix. Buy it down to six and a half. The Dolphins win. They cover the game. The Dolphins by 14 points at home over the Raiders. San Francisco getting healthy. Minus six and a half. Take it on Seattle. Buy it down to San. The Niners win and they cover The Niners by 13 points at home. Broncos minus two and a half. They're taking on the Falcons. Broncos are sneaky good. I'm telling you. The Broncos win and they cover the Broncos by 10 points at home. And finally, the Chargers Sunday night. Take it on the Bengals. Chargers minus one and a half. Take the Chargers. They win. They cover the Chargers by seven points at home. Those are the picks, everyone. Good luck. Stugatz here for my friends over at Simplisafe, the holiday season is right around the corner. That means you're away more and burglars know it. That means you need to protect your home. And right now, Simplisafe is giving exclusive early access to its Black Friday sale to God bless football listeners. Simplisafe is the home security I trust to keep my home and family safe. Simplisafe is a new way to protect your home home that stops intruders before they break into your home. Old school systems only take action once someone is already inside your home. That's too late. Simplisafe's Active guard Outdoor protection changes the game by preventing crime before it even happens. If someone's lurking around or acting suspiciously, those agents see them in real time, talk to them directly, set off your spotlight, and even call the police before they've had a chance to break in. Simplisafe is offering my listeners exclusive early access to their Black Friday sale this week only. You can take 60% off any new system with a select professional monitoring plan. This is their best offer of the year. Head to simplisafe.com gbf to claim your discount and make sure your home is safe this holiday season. Don't wait. This offer won't last long. Keep your home, your family and your peace of mind protected. With Simplisafe, there's no safe like Simplisafe.

[Billy]

Sims is like the, the prototypical like great student who graduated from like the Naval Academy. Like he's what it's supposed to look like for then like Tom Cruise to come in and just undercut him.

[Chris Simms]

You're making Sims out to be Iceman. I mean that's what you're essentially Now, Iceman eventually came around. He did. He came around. They became friends. But that's essentially what you're making Sims to be. And I agree with you guys. Iceman, he is the cocky guy on the beach, dog tags, out playing volleyball, high fiving his teammates. That's who he is.

[Billy]

I don't think he'd have a problem with It. To be honest with you.

[Stu Gatz]

During the final mission, Sims is also one of the guys in the first group around Tom Cruise. When he's singing to Kelly McGillis, he's there. Like, he's the one that's going like, oh, I've done this before. Yeah, I know this move. And then. And then it's time for the final mission. And Tom Cruise and Chris Simms are.

[Chris Simms]

There getting their orders.

[Stu Gatz]

And then all of a sudden, Mike Gold runs up with his flight suit on. They're like, what the hell are you doing here?

[Chris Simms]

He's like, one last ride. And they all go together. Wait, so now you have Golic. It's Tom Cruise. He's with.

[Stu Gatz]

No, he's there with him.

[Chris Simms]

Okay. One last ride.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

One last ride.

[Billy]

If we were in the world of Independence Day, I could see. I could see Golic as Randy Quaid, like, saving us from the aliens, but also as Bill Pullman, the president. Goal. It could be both Quaid's Randy and Dennis somehow.

[Chris Simms]

You're right.

[Stu Gatz]

See, and I got. I got Sims as the guy on the ground at Area 51, being, like, training the pilots.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

You know, like, he knew about the alien. These are not the normal planes you guys are used to.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

Area. I'm not training any pilots, but I am, like, somewhere in Area 51 looking for the good that they've been hiding from everybody in society. I'm, like, breaking the rules, going, oh, I don't have clearance here. Hold on. I gotta get in there and see what's going on. I want to see that kind of.

[Chris Simms]

You think there's weed in Area 51? I mean, what, you want the aliens?

[Stu Gatz]

I mean, I want the aliens. I want. Yeah. I want all that stuff that they talk about. The alien ships, whatever. All the things that they've always said through the years that is covered up there.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

I mean, I've always been interested in that and the JFK assassination. There's, like, two things that I have, like, a little bit of a hobby with. Every now and then, we'll read stuff on. Yeah, I would. I would consider myself the most knowledgeable JFK assassination person any of you know. Okay. I will say that I have done my diligence. Watching, reading, doing all that. So, yeah, I find that stuff kind of cool. Maybe they have the secrets to who killed JFK there in Area 51?

[Chris Simms]

Huh?

[Billy]

Well, hold on a second. So what happened with jfk, right?

[Chris Simms]

Who killed him?

[Stu Gatz]

Well, the. Well, the United States government killed jfk. Right. There's no doubt there's oh, there's no doubt about that. I mean Lee Harvey Oswald was in the CIA. He was a. So to get into it, there's a lot. It's deep. Right. Either way. But yeah, it was the United States government was maybe in cahoots with some other things here and there. But either way, when you lead it back to that, no doubt about it. No, no questions.

[Billy]

Multiple. Multiple shooters or just one, right?

[Stu Gatz]

Oh, I mean, well, I mean, we'll see. I mean. Oh yeah. Lee Harvey Oswald pulled off the greatest shooting expedition that nobody else has ever done.

[Billy]

Still the magic bullet, Chris, because bullets.

[Stu Gatz]

Go through bodies and then they take right turns and then take left turns and then go through somebody's body and then take another left turn and then go back left the other way. That's what you all you have to say to people who believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed jfk.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

You have to go. Wait, so you're telling me you believe in a theory that a bullet went through someone took a right turn, then took a left turn, went through somebody took a left turn and then took another left turn and came out? That's all you're going to have to say?

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

And I mean there's only this visual evidence of a guy's head being blown off and going this way. But yeah, no, he got shot from the back. Okay, sure. Yeah.

[Billy]

And what happened at the grassy knoll?

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah, well, that's where the shot was. I mean that, that's. There was.

[Billy]

Who was it?

[Stu Gatz]

Right. Well, I don't know. Somebody that was working for the CIA or somebody there.

[Chris Simms]

How about the mafia? Was the mafia involved or.

[Stu Gatz]

Mafia, I think was helping of the covering up and some of that, but not like there that day. They didn't take all the agents off the streets. Right. And make it. They didn't make it to this parade route. Have you ever been to the place where he got shot? No, I mean. Oh, you need to go see it.

[Chris Simms]

Really?

[Stu Gatz]

First of all, it's the biggest coup d tie. I don't even know how to shoot a gun. But I'm just telling you, if I was there, I'd go. I might be able to hit him from here. It's all so close and so tight. You don't understand, Billy. It literally from that observatory building, like he is right underneath them. It's. It's like less than 100 yards away. It's not far. The grassy knoll is like I could have thrown a football and hit him in the head from there. Like it's no, no joke. So that's where there's a lot there. But we can dive into that more and more as you.

[Chris Simms]

No, no, no. I want to stay right here. You went to the grassy knoll?

[Stu Gatz]

I mean, I've been there twice. Wow.

[Billy]

No, the take, like follow up notes on what you missed.

[Stu Gatz]

The first time I've stood on the X. Exactly. There's an X on the street where it all happened. And it's crazy. There's like the feel, the power that's there and all that, but.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

Oh, come on. I mean, people coming out of the woodworks and taking cameras out of people's hands seconds after it happened. Right. The changing of the autopsy. I mean, you all saw his head's blown off, right? I mean, the autopsy is heads together and there's a little.

[Billy]

I've never checked out the autopsy.

[Stu Gatz]

It's all a coup d'etat, man. It's all a coup.

[Chris Simms]

I can't tell if he's an expert or if he watched Oliver Stone's jfk. I mean, I just.

[Stu Gatz]

I've watched that.

[Billy]

And what did he get wrong? What did Oliver Stone get wrong?

[Stu Gatz]

And his follow up. And like, he did a documentary that's really good. I don't. I can't remember the best thing that I've read some books that have, like, you know what they do? This is what got me started. In eighth grade, I had somebody come to my school and they did like a, you know, a presentation. And there it was on the assassination, which I was already interested in, but they sued the US Government. And he said, listen, they sue you. If you sue them, they'll send you the information. But they drowned you in the information. Right. If the report's 200 pages, they send you a million books and a million pages and make you go through it and you have to figure it out. And yes, the best books I've read have actual documentation, like document 2449, abc debit, you know, whatever. And it has all this. And if you read through it, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's just exhausting to read or decipher through. And most people don't want to do that.

[Billy]

So I have an idea, Chris and I feel like this is like an idea that we pitched to Peacock. And I don't know how it is. Right, right. But I feel like Peacock is a place for it. So I'm volunteering. I think me and you go together and it's Billy and Chris Simms or Chris Simms and Billy, because you obviously have a bigger name. Chris Sims and Billy. I don't even have to be in there.

[Stu Gatz]

Right.

[Billy]

And it's just.

[Chris Simms]

So now it's just Chris Sims.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah.

[Billy]

Football history, crime solvers. And we just go around and we try to solve like. Like history's crimes. And it's. You, like, on the grassy null and it's like you trying to see, can I throw a football and hit JFK in that head from the grassy. Like, we use football to see if we can solve crimes.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah. But, Billy, you would be JFK in.

[Stu Gatz]

That scenario where me and you travel together and do all that, man. Yeah. I'm think there's much of a lifeline for that show.

[Billy]

You know, I'd be doing a lot of work.

[Mojo]

Yeah.

[Billy]

But a lot of the lead work, you just be kind of showing up and kind of, like, guiding me around. I had an idea once, Chris, that I think that you would have liked, and it never got off the ground. And I never even pitched it because, like, I thought that it was going to go nowhere. But it was when we were at ESPN and they were launching ESPN plus and they were just looking for content, and I wanted to pitch a travel show where it was me and Mike Leach going around the country, and he was just teaching me American history. So, like, he would take me to, like, battle sites and just tell me all of these things that he knew off of the top of his head. One day I'm gonna. I'm gonna hook a fish that's gonna do a travel show.

[Chris Simms]

I'm glad you never pitched it.

[Stu Gatz]

One day, you tell me, you tell me, who wants to invest in that horrible idea?

[Billy]

This is where you pull the strings, right? Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

Right?

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Billy]

I'm getting you the answers to the JFK thing that you so desire.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

Right.

[Billy]

Form of a television show.

[Stu Gatz]

All you have to know. Right. Is like, with every time everybody says, says, oh, it's about to get released, and they don't release those last hundred pages.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

That's all you got. Trump was talking about it.

[Gordy]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

I was like, when Trump got elected on 2016, it was the thing I was most excited about. I was like, my gosh, we're going to finally find the JFK stuff because he promised it. Right. But what happens all. Every time is the CIA comes in, they go, you can't, because we killed them. And we just can't tell everybody that or we'll lose faith in the government. And that's all there is to know.

[Chris Simms]

I want you to rethink your position on what Billy is proposing, because he is willing to be JFK in this scenario. So you're on the grassy. No, no, no. You're on the grassy.

[Stu Gatz]

No football on his head.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, you get the. That's exactly. And now we all want to throw football.

[Stu Gatz]

Can you curve it somewhere? Can you curve the football?

[Chris Simms]

Can we talk?

[Stu Gatz]

It's a magic football theory.

[Billy]

Okay, hold on a second. How about this?

[Mojo]

Jesus.

[Billy]

If this will seal the deal, I will ride on the back of a convertible and you can throw a football at my head in Dallas.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah, no, it's not going to seal the deal because the rest of the trip sounds not fun, and it's a lot of work for nothing. All right, so I'm not doing it.

[Billy]

All right, it's gonna be great. Imagine it's like Mythbusters, but with, like, unsolved historical crimes in football.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

Right.

[Billy]

Yes, yes.

[Stu Gatz]

Mythbusters football historical game tape.

[Billy]

Exactly right.

[Stu Gatz]

Let's go to the Subruder film.

[Billy]

I'm gonna do. Oh, my God. The Zapruder film room. And we have down the film with X's and naming.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Billy]

I'm gonna put some work in on this, Chris.

[Stu Gatz]

I'll do the go ahead with you.

[Billy]

In a couple weeks.

[Stu Gatz]

I'm just glad my jersey's back up this week. Thanks a lot for acknowledging me.

[Billy]

Now, here's the thing that Mikey and Stugotts may have not noticed or may not tell you is when we recorded earlier today for another part of the episode that was not up, I actually went to make sure that that was up for you this week, because I know I hurt you so much last week.

[Chris Simms]

Week.

[Stu Gatz]

Well, why isn't it up all the time? That didn't make me feel any better. I don't understand. So you're just telling me you're just trying to use me and butter me up a little bit for 30 minutes every day. And that's. I thought it was there all the time.

[Billy]

It is there all the time. But I had taken it down last week. We're doing some cleaning. I moved it around so that we wouldn't damage it, and then I forgot to put it back up, but it's fine. I have a question for you regarding Area 51. Because I don't know how much research you've done into Area 51.

[Chris Simms]

I'm perfectly fine staying here the entire time. Go ahead, Billy.

[Billy]

So. So do you guys think. I don't know. Do you believe in aliens? First of all, yes. Okay, so that's a good starting point.

[Chris Simms]

Have you encountered one?

[Stu Gatz]

No. No, I haven't But, I mean, I just, you know, I'm playing the percentages. The universe is big. Gosh, damn. We got a lot of big. And we got a ton of videos of we're seeing flying through our Earth right now. And you're going, that. That's not a normal airplane. I don't know what the that is. So, yeah, I'm a believer in it.

[Billy]

Do you think that they've made their way to Earth and they've kind of interacted with humans or we have, like, an alien species or whatever at Area 51?

[Stu Gatz]

I don't think so. I don't. I mean, maybe they caught one that's dead. I mean, I could see that maybe or something like that. Are they roaming amongst us? No. Are they coming here right now going, why is this species trying to kill themselves? And up the place they live? Definitely. They're like, wait, this is like. This is the dumbest I've ever seen. Are they the dumbest people or dumbest beings in the universe? They're ruining their planet they live on, and they talk about God's green Earth all the time. What? I don't understand it.

[Billy]

Okay, well, my question was more. So what kind of drugs do you think aliens do? Like, you think they have drugs on their planets that are different than, like, drugs here on Earth?

[Stu Gatz]

Nah, they're high on life. They're doing really. That's why they're not stupid and they're not killing their own planets. They're out having a good time.

[Billy]

There's lots of dead planets out there, Chris, that could have been killed by aliens.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah. You know, probably humans did that too. We just don't know yet. I'm gonna bet anything bad, I'm gonna blame it on humans. I'm guaranteeing.

[Billy]

You think humans went and killed off other planets? Would you like to know that this.

[Stu Gatz]

Shows looks right now? I mean, every billionaire on Earth is trying to get off the planet again right now. Looking to get a starship spaceship cruiser.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

And build a place somewhere else.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

It's all a little weird out there.

[Chris Simms]

You could do that.

[Billy]

Would you go live on another planet?

[Stu Gatz]

No, I would like, not be boring as hell.

[Billy]

There's nothing to do.

[Stu Gatz]

I've been developing Earth, but I would prefer Earth not to be 80 in November in the northeast. That. That's a little weird.

[Chris Simms]

Would you smoke weed with an alien?

[Billy]

Cars?

[Chris Simms]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

We got a lot of work to do.

[Chris Simms]

Would you smoke weed with an alien?

[Stu Gatz]

Oh, yeah, I definitely would. Right? I mean, that would enhance the experience. I think I might Be able to speak his language when I smoke weed with him a little bit like, oh yeah, I get what he's saying. Oh yeah, me too.

[Chris Simms]

Do you think.

[Stu Gatz]

Think the Dolphins aren't that good either. And Billy's agree.

[Chris Simms]

Do you think a team of aliens would beat the Chiefs?

[Billy]

Wow.

[Stu Gatz]

I would think they'd have some special powers. They'd have some special. Right. They're. They're alien. Randy Moss would just be too much for any of our tent people to handle.

[Chris Simms]

You done?

[Billy]

So the Chiefs are playing the Bills?

[Chris Simms]

No, that was a question for Billy. BFT with Mike Florio. The unbuttoned podcast. Football Night in America as well. Chris Sims is with us here. God bless football. Let's start with Anthony Richardson. Some people would say Anthony Richardson is an alien. Seriously, physically. What are the Colts doing? Sims? What are they doing?

[Stu Gatz]

All right, so here, here's some things. I've said a few things too on, on TV and tried to tell some people a little bit. Right. Like, I mean, I understand why they benched him. The, the play was all over the place. We talked about this. Right, right. The tapping out of the game. That's odd too. And I've said even, you know, over the last week on my pod and Defluorio a little bit. It's just that, that there's more than just that. They, they benched him not only because of some of that stuff, but I don't think he's quite been the day to day professional they would like him to be. So this was a little bit of like, hey, set an example. We want you to go back and start acting the right way here and being detailed and doing the things you need to do on a day to day, week to week basis to be the starting quarterback in the NFL. So there was a little bit of that is why he was also benched by the Indianapolis Colts. And of course they were in the playoff race at 4 and 4 when they did it. So I get it. But now they're going, we lost two games. The offense hasn't looked all that great with Joe Flacco. It certainly has. And the big picture is still we want Anthony Richardson to be the future of our organization. So I think within looking at that, they probably had a meeting Tuesday and went, wait, we can't cut off our nose despite our face here, even though we know Anthony Richardson hasn't done some of the things we'd like him to do. He's not a bad guy. He likes the game. We like him, we believe in him. He'll Clean up some of these things as far as detail on the day to day basis and we got to get him out there to play and we're four and six and what are we really expecting to do if we get to the playoffs or anything anyways, Come on, they're not that kind of team. So I think it is the right decision to go back with him. And I think if you look at it last two weeks, I'm not so sure. Hey, they're every bit as dangerous with him at quarterback. Yeah, they might be a little more surgical with Flacco, but Anthony Richardson's ability to make big plays, which he does every game with his right arm, it might be three or four, but it's wow. And then his running coupled with Jonathan Taylor, I think all of that, they just looked at it and said, let's go back to what our future is and what we're looking at. Big picture of our organization.

[Chris Simms]

Chris, I thought they never should have went away from Anthony Richardson.

[Stu Gatz]

I remember you saying that.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, I'm wondering what it does to the rest of the team, the rest of that locker room when you have a coach who comes out and he says with all that bluster and he says, hey, this guy, he's our quarterback, Flacco for the remainder of the year and then two weeks later he changes his tune and it's back to Anthony Richardson. Does that impact the rest of the guys on the team?

[Stu Gatz]

I don't think it does. I think one, they're going to look at it and go, okay, I'm glad that they, you know, gave Anthony Richardson a little bit of a slap on the wrist for, you know, being late to meetings or being late to rehab or whatever else. Right. Again, I don't think this is a guy that's disliked at all on their football team. It's a guy that I just think people in the locker room looked at to go, he could step it up a little bit as far as being the quarterback of our team and doing all the little things that all quarterbacks do in the NFL. So I think that's where, you know, the team is going to look at that. They know he's the big picture, the coach. When you make a quarterback change like that too, you got to make a definitive statement like that to a degree. And the locker room knows that too. I mean, they can't say, hey, hey, we're going to go with Joe and we'll just see how he plays this week. And if it's not good, we'll. We'll Take his ass out, too. I mean, that doesn't do any good either. So sometimes coach speak gets, you know, coaches in trouble. But I think, you know, these guys know what's going on there and they understand it and they saw the way Joe Placo played the last two weeks to go. Okay, wait, we're not that much better or maybe we're worse with Flacco. Let's go with Anthony Richardson and. And hopefully he gets better at the things we've talked about. Sims, it's a question I didn't think I'd be asking you, but they asked Aaron Rodgers if he was coming back next year and he says, yeah, I think so. My question is, do I want him back? Is that is like, is that something I should want him to come back? Yeah, but it has to be like, you gotta. We almost need to get a contract written up and like going like, no, you need to do this, this and this and this and this and this and this and this. And then we'll let you back on the football team because, like, if you're going to come back, like, you don't get to run the show anymore. We don't run your offense anymore. Your offense sucks. It's sucky ducky. We've seen that. So, yeah, you can come back. But we're hiring an offensive coordinator that we think is best for our team. And you're not going to run any of the plays you like. They're going to run the plays we like. No more screen to Devonte and then screen to Garrett and then screen debris hall and then three yard slant to Breeze hall and then three yard slant to Garrett Wilson. Like, that's got to change. That's where you don't want them, right? This is my big thing in my quarterback rankings. I took a lot of crap for saying he was the 14th quarterback Best quarterback in football. The way it looks like I should have made him lower. I don't know. What do you want to say? That was my thing. He can't play the way he thinks he can play. He thought he was going to dance around and do all this crap that he's been doing his whole career. He hasn't done that in three years, let alone coming off an Achilles injury. So yeah, if he does come back, it's got to be like, like the sheriff comes into town and goes, hey, hey, no, no, no. Like almost a little bit like Kubiak with Peyton Manning in the last year. Remember that? Yes, we know you have a million ways to throw 90 million screens and Short passes to make your stats look good. But that ain't doing. When it comes time for the playoffs, we're going to be tough. We're going to run the ball. You're not going to call your 9th screen check to Wes Welker out here. We're going to do that and we're going to play that way. And I feel like that's what it will have to be with Aaron Rogers at this point if you want him back. Mikey, Chris Brock.

[Chris Simms]

Purdy's had a pretty good year. That team's starting to get healthy. I know you love that team. I know you love that coach. You're not going to be surprised if that team beats the Lions NFC championship game or makes it that far, I guess is what I'm saying.

[Stu Gatz]

Well, I wouldn't be shocked if they made it that far. If you had to ask me right now, I'd go no, they're not going to make it that far with the. They have a little bit of the disease of it up right now. Right. Whether it's missed field goals, letting up a big kick return, a big punt return. You know, we're in a shootout with the Chiefs and we're about to score and we fumble on the four yard line going in. They've had a lot of that this year that we're blowing out the Seattle Seahawks on a Thursday night. Oh no. Now they ran 105 yard kick return back for a touchdown. We're in a football game all of a sudden that's they just been a little sloppy. But their top end quality play St Godzilla is worthy of that when they play really good. Yeah. I would be not be shocked if they go to the NFC championship. McCaffrey changes their team. You saw their explosive. They're all going to get better at running the ball with them. Last week was all past game and Purdy to your point has been better this year than last year in my opinion.

[Billy]

Wow.

[Stu Gatz]

You know, as far as making plays happen that aren't necessarily there to be had all the time, he's done more on his own this year and that's what I've like big throws, scramble, buy time, scramble. Right, whatever. All of that, that's where he's you know, picked it up a notch in my opinion.

[Billy]

Chris, you guys got a had a good Sunday night football game last week. This week, not a bad one in the Bengals and the chargers. But yeah, 4 o'clock we have a battle of big dogs. We have the Chiefs and we have the Bills.

[Chris Simms]

What a weekend.

[Billy]

I feel like this is a who's who's game for the AFC.

[Stu Gatz]

Well, yeah, you got Raven Steelers in one, right? You got that one at 4:25. And hey, I think our game is damn good. I do. It's the Bengals, we know it's desperation time. The Chargers, nobody's given them the credit they deserve. Their defense is awesome, but I don't think people really understand it or don't want to give it credit because they've had an easy schedule to this point to a degree. I think it's going to be a fun game on Sunday night. And I think this is the cool thing and you've seen this a little bit. Joe Burrow is the best zone quarterback in football. The Chargers love to play zone, zone. Nobody scored more than 20 points against the Chargers this year. Right. So I, I expect Joe Burrow if the Chargers play their zones and as awesome as they are that still pick them apart, I think they'll go plus 20 points. But I still just don't trust that Bengals defense. That's the issue there. So I'm going to take the Chargers, I think in a close one. But I could see the upset happening. The Bills, the Bills Chiefs game, it's going to be really damn good. I'm leaning Chiefs. You know, I, I and, and for, for these reasons, the Chiefs, they got a big offensive line even though Pacheco's not there. You got to worry about their run. They'll stay patient and consistent with it. Normally in those type of situations, these are the teams that give the, the Bills problems on defense. The Bills are not real big on their front seven. So then they have to flood people in the box to slow that down and then that leads it to favorable looks in the pass game. The Bills aren't good at man to man. They play a lot of zone and Andy Reed and Mahomes are great at spreading these zones out and finding Travis Kelsey wide open in the end zone like the divisional playoff game last year. So I look at that and then I also worry about Billy, the injuries a little bit on the Bills offense. Keon, Keon Coleman and Amari Cooper, like if they're not playing, I don't think they're going to be able to move the ball consistently on the Chiefs. I'm going to take the Chiefs to win on the road in a close one, but I think it'll be a fun one for sure. Billy, I couldn't help but notice you, you threw the term big dog in there in that question.

[Billy]

Yeah, big dogs.

[Stu Gatz]

Were you trying to hint at something there.

[Billy]

Not just. I feel like, chris, I'll come clean. I'll tell you. So last Sunday, we were in Arizona, and we were doing a watch along for the jets and the Cardinals game.

[Chris Simms]

Wow. When he's done telling you this, you'll want to be on the grassy knoll throwing footballs at his face. Go ahead.

[Billy]

No, that's not true. So.

[Stu Gatz]

No, that's.

[Billy]

You guys will regularly brag to us about, like, oh, I have Josh Allen's number. Oh, I have Baker Mayfield's number. Oh, he starts throwing these things around. So as we're. As we're doing the show, we're like, just, you know, so text Josh like, hey. Or it wasn't Josh. It was text Baker like, hey. It was Baker. At first you're like, hey. Just text Baker like, hey, hang in there, Big Dog. It was a good game. Like, you know, it was a good loss for Baker last week. Just keep your head up, Big Dog. And he refused to do so. And then we said, like, just, okay, then text Josh like, you're so good friends with these people. Text Josh, be like, hey, you know, good game, Big Dog. Like, you know, big win there for you. Right. Refused to do it. So then Charles Barkley showed up, and we're like, hey. Just say, hey, Chuck, how's it going, Big Dog? Because he has this. He maintains this thing that no one likes being called Big Dog. And I said, that's absolutely not the case. People like it. If they're big dogs, they like being called Big Dog.

[Stu Gatz]

Well, yeah, I don't know. There's nothing bad about it. I don't think there's anything bad. That's. That's what I'd say.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Billy]

And that's all that happened. Happened.

[Chris Simms]

Well, now you know why you got your.

[Stu Gatz]

You seem intent on that word big Dog and reaching out to these guys. He can't just say, hey, great game. He doesn't. He has to say big Dog or weird.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

But after all that.

[Stu Gatz]

Thank you. After all that, the person he was willing to call Big Dog was you. He was gonna text you.

[Chris Simms]

No.

[Stu Gatz]

Hey, Sims. Have a good show today, Big Dog.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, it was like, that doesn't count. No. Billy Sims are friends. No, Billy.

[Stu Gatz]

But Stu said he was gonna text. Did you write big Dog on there?

[Chris Simms]

I don't remember.

[Stu Gatz]

Did you write, have a good show, big Dog?

[Billy]

I did.

[Stu Gatz]

I did. I got. I got one. Which I thought was so random, but now it's explaining that. Now it's making sense. It was 5:30 on a Sunday afternoon. Good luck, Big Dog with the show.

[Billy]

Good luck.

[Stu Gatz]

Who the are you and what'd you do with Billy?

[Billy]

Who are you supportive? I'm trying to. I'm trying to have us have this good, you know, relationship headed into our travel show together. Yes. Yes. Okay.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah.

[Billy]

Big Dog.

[Chris Simms]

Big Dog. Are the Cardinals for real?

[Stu Gatz]

I mean, the Cardinals are like for real as far as a playoff team. Yes. Right. I don't think they have some of the high end players you need to like make a run in the playoffs, but the way Kyler Murray's playing, they're creative in the run game and the pass game. You see, they know how to use this. Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison Jr. And do all that. James Connor's damn good. The defense, the same thing. A lot of good. There's just not enough Great. But I think, yes, they're good enough to be in the playoffs, that's for sure. Stugotts. But this is why I was big on, like, don't make a trade before the trade deadline or do that. It's so set up for them to really take their team to another level this off season with some of the draft picks they have, some of the money they're going to have and I think they're going to be able to add to their football team to where next year when we're doing a show in like May and you go, hey, who's a team that you think is going to be like really good and surprise people this year? I'm going to go, I think it's the Arizona Cardinals. Look what they did in free agency in the draft. They already had a good nucleus. Watch out for them this year. They're close. They're one more off season away from me going, woo. Watch out for the Cardinals and what they got on both sides of the ball.

[Chris Simms]

Chris, if we assume the jets job will be open, it is open. The Jacksonville job is going to be open. The Bears, Cowboys, which of those jobs, if you were a potential head coach, would you most want?

[Stu Gatz]

Ooh, the Bears would be up there.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah. They would have to.

[Stu Gatz]

Probably want the. I'd probably want the Bears. Yeah, I think, yeah. I just think there's a lot of young talent on the football. The jets are just so many things.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

And as the Aaron Rogers thing and all of that where it's just like, I don't know, I don't. And you got a few players who were. Yeah. Due to make some big contracts and some older players. You're going to have to make some decisions on and whether you want to keep them going forward, all that. Yeah. I look at the Bears as having the best nucleus with that quarterback. D.J. moore dunes a Cole commit. They need some improvements on the O line, but there's some pieces there on the defense, too. That would be the team. I would look at too many unknowns with some of the other stuff. And, yeah, Dallas has got a lot of work to do. I think that's the one. I think that would be the one. Chicago for sure.

[Chris Simms]

Do you think the guy that most teams are going to want is Ben Johnson? Is that the guy, or is it Belichick?

[Stu Gatz]

No, I think I. I think it's Ben Johnson. I think it's going to be. You know, what do I want to say? Taster's choice with. With Belichick. Like, I. I could see a lot of teams just going, no way do we want to deal with that? Blah, blah, blah. We're not doing that. And then he might just have one or two team. One or two teams that are like, no, we want you. Right? I go to. This is. To me. I know Bill Belichick's out there. I get it. Right. I'd. I'd want Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel would be the guy that I would want over everybody. That'd be number one on my list. I had a Ben Johnson, right? Yeah, Ben Johnson's right there. I think he's the next guy you look at, and he's the guy that makes the most sense to me. When I think of Chicago and go, oh, what do they want to do? And help Caleb Williams out and all that. That makes a lot of sense there. I feel like I'm missing some people. Like I've told you, I think in the past. Todd Monkin, I think, deserves some talk in this conversation. The defensive coordinator for the Chargers, Jesse Minner, is going to be involved in this conversation a little bit. You know, those are some of the names that really pop out to me right off the top of my head.

[Chris Simms]

The Chargers are sneaky good. Huh?

[Stu Gatz]

The Chargers are sneaky good. The. The. The thing that's holding them back is the fact that people haven't got to see them on the national stage a whole lot. And like I said that early that the schedule they've had, I don't think people have bought into. Oh, wow. They're actually good. People are just going, oh, they're beating teams they're supposed to beat. I get that. No, they're good. The.

[Chris Simms]

The.

[Stu Gatz]

The defense is really damn good. The. Dion. Dion Henley Their middle linebacker, he is phenomenal. He's one of the better linebackers in football. Their D line's got everything. They're secondary smart. They got really good safeties. They're banged up at corner, so they're playing some young guys right now. But then, yeah, the offensive side of the ball, they remind me of my dad's late 80s New York Giants.

[Chris Simms]

Yes.

[Stu Gatz]

Like it's, it's like you saw last week, week, it's Justin Herbert 15 for 18. And like four or five of those throws are big throws that change the football game. That's kind of how my dad and them used to play. That's the way it was. Defense, run the ball. Oh, wait, you're cheating on the run. Oh, Big Phil's going to throw a 30 yard throw to Mark Ingram or Steven Baker or Mark Bavaro right here and change the field position. That's the way it goes. And it's a tough formula to defend. They're playing damn good football. I got a little crush on the Chargers too, guys.

[Chris Simms]

So do I. They're a good team. They're well coached. We'll get you out of here in just a second. PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock, the unbuttoned podcast. Football night in America. Raven Steelers. Lamar struggled with Pittsburgh. The Ravens have struggled against Mike Tomlin. What are you thinking in that game? Such a big game. Such a great game.

[Stu Gatz]

Oh, it is. It's going to be an awesome game. I am pumped for it.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

The Steelers know how to defend Lamar even though Lamar hasn't played them all that much.

[Gordy]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

Think about how long he's been there. He's one in three. He's only played four times. He's always hurt. Hurt, yeah. This is a different Baltimore team than ever before, though. This is the best offense Baltimore has ever had, ever. I know Lamar's first full year as a starter when he won the mvp, they were really good. I don't get me wrong here. But that was more of a system taking a league by storm and people like, wait, I don't know how to defend him. And the run and all this they're doing right. This is like, like they can do whatever they want. They can run it, he can run it and he can absolutely dice you up in the pass game. Now, I do think Pittsburgh will be able to contain him maybe a little bit from some of the scrambling and all that, but there's just too many weapons I think he has right now and I just don't know. Do I think Pittsburgh can keep pace, right? This Baltimore defense stinks. It stinks. But I don't know if I think Pittsburgh can just outscore Baltimore that way. I got to see a little more from that Pittsburgh offense. It's been better. I like what Russell Wilson's doing all that, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I took the Ravens 28, 24 just because. And I think it'll be a fun game. I just feel like that Ravens offense is pretty damn special. And I gotta see the Steelers win those kind of game. One of those games with their offense first before I buy into it. I'm not betting money on that one, but I'm taking the Ravens.

[Chris Simms]

Me and Billy were trying to argue earlier this week with Ler that the Dolphins are back in the mix. Are the Dolphins back in the mix?

[Stu Gatz]

They're in the mix. They are to go on a run here, and it's going to be tough. Right. I think that that seventh seed in the AFC playoffs, though, is still there and up for grabs. Right. Like, I think that will be and continue to be here throughout the year. So we'll see where it goes in that department. But let me see. Let me just. I just want to do this, pull up their schedule nonetheless, just to get a little feel for it.

[Chris Simms]

It's pretty easy. You can put them at 5 and 6 right now. Sims.

[Billy]

I mean, no, but they have. They have the Texans, they have the packers, they have the 49ers.

[Stu Gatz]

The Raiders and Patriots will know how to defend them, right? They will. And it won't look as pretty as you think, but I do think, like you're saying, Stu Gots, they'll win the next two, but then after that, yeah, I, you know, I don't know if I'm ready to say they can make the playoffs, but I think they'll make a strong push and I think for that seventh spot. My point is, is that 9 and 8, I think, is eventually going to get you in there, and it might be them and the Broncos and the Bengals and the Colts all jumbled up for that last spot to kind of make it happen. So they got a shot. They're alive. Their defense is better than I gave it credit for. The offense, you know, we'll see. Again, like I said, said, I still got questions of whether I think this can really work with this current formula and how they're playing right now.

[Chris Simms]

All right, last one for me. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Billy.

[Stu Gatz]

Go ahead, Billy.

[Billy]

I was gonna say, it seems, Chris, like teams have figured out if you just don't let Tyreek get behind you. You can let Johnny Smith get 40, 50, 60 yards a game and you'll be perfectly fine.

[Stu Gatz]

It doesn't matter that, that that's kind of it. And I think even to couple that or even accentuate what you're saying there, don't let them get behind you. And really the big thing is that I think see teams because like right, we're not Tula throwing 60 yard bombs is not necessarily on everybody's mind when you play them. I think the biggest thing is you see them taking away him catching balls like 12 to 15 yards down the middle of the field on the run. Right. If you think of all the crazy Dolphin plays, it's him or waddle like 15 yards over the middle on the run. Great throw, accurate zoom. And then they carve through the defense. Right, right. We haven't seen that in a while and I think that's where most teams are going. We take away that, we'll deal with some of the other stuff and a run here and that. But they're a different offense that way. And I think, you know, you're spot on there, Billy.

[Chris Simms]

Chris, if the Lions played the Chiefs right now, who would you take?

[Stu Gatz]

The Lions.

[Chris Simms]

Really?

[Stu Gatz]

I would take the Lions. I wouldn't be easy, but I would. I think the Lions are like arguably the toughest matchup in football for the Chiefs.

[Chris Simms]

Wow.

[Stu Gatz]

I think, I think that'd be the one team in the Super Bowl. I think if they play him, I go, oh, I don't know. I just think there's a little too much offense and too many answers everywhere. And even though their defense isn't great, their game plan specific and the Chiefs just don't have a lot of answers on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah, I think I'd probably take, take. I'd probably take the, the, the Lions on that one.

[Billy]

Chris, when we were watching the game last week, the Lions and the Texans that you guys covered.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah.

[Billy]

One of the things that I obviously don't know as much as you, but one of the things that I saw that was like, oh, like this is different and it sounds stupid and simple is okay, so if the Lions are going to kick field goals instead of going for it on fourth down and just take the points, they could, they could run through the playoffs and not shoot themselves in the foot make being overly aggressive. Dan Campbell and running themselves out of game.

[Stu Gatz]

They don't need to be that aggressive. Right?

[Billy]

They don't.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

And that. And of course I was not A fan of what they did in the NFC Championship Game. And I think they found to me the right touch this year as far as when to be aggressive and when to go. No, let's just kick the field goal or punt here. Let's not do that. I'm always in favor, Billy, of when you're the better team or you're the best team. Just keep playing football. Don't make it all about one play. Play. The cream will rise to the top, right? The more we play, our team's better. The more plays we have against each other, the better team will show out and win that football game. So, yeah, I'm not into these. A lot of these teams with these. I'm going to win the game on this play. And I want to go, you can't win the game on this play, but you can lose the game on this play, you idiots, with your aggressive. I got to be aggressive. The analytics say be aggressive, right? And that's what they did last year. That's what they did. They weren't going to win the game if they got the first down, but you can talk to the 49ers and they'll all go. We can't believe they went for it there. Thank God they did it. It gave us a second wind in that game and gave us a chance. And I don't think he'll do it that way this year. They're phenomenal. They got it all. And even, like, come on, what they did in that game the other night, got unlucky tip pass interceptions, right? Houston still got issues, as you can see, but to be down like that, they don't panic and they just go, hey, we got a whole second half to play, and if we just play good football, we're better than them. We don't need to take any chances. And you saw that, and they came right back and beat him.

[Chris Simms]

I've never been more wrong about thinking whether or not a head coach would be great or not. Like, I didn't think Dan Campbell would be this good, Chris. Did you?

[Stu Gatz]

No. I mean, no, not this good. Not. Not this good. I knew he had some traits to be an incredible leader and a communicator. I'd heard enough about him, you know, through the years, of course, because I hear about anybody in the Parcels coaching train. I always know the dirt on those guys, right? So, yeah, he was part of the Parcels and Sean Payton group there and all that. And I had always heard about what a football guy is, what a great talker and communicator. And leader. He is. And, you know, he's not just some raw, dumb, big tight end meathead who puts a dip in his mouth. And like, he's smart. He knows what buttons to push. He's. He's been absolutely phenomenal. He's like a. He's the offensive version of Mike Vrabel. That's what I look at him as.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, right. Yes.

[Stu Gatz]

He played offense. It's tough. Mother you don't want to with. But he's got a little personality. And Vrabel's like, I'm a defensive guy. My personality is not the same. My personality is I look at you and you get scared list. That's what it is.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

But it's still the same way. Hands on, great motivator. Know how to talk to their guys. Very similar that way.

[Chris Simms]

I love coaches like that. The players feel like they're playing in a game with them. You know, it's exactly right. Yes.

[Stu Gatz]

That's what it is.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Stu Gatz]

And you gotta have the right touch. Right? You gotta have the right touch. Cause we've seen some of these X Player guys, whatever, not work. And I think sometimes maybe they're too player friendly or it's too much about just talk and motivation all the time. There's gotta be a little bit of both there. And I think Dan Campbell and Vrabel really got that.

[Chris Simms]

All right. PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock, the unbuttoned podcast as well. Football night in America. They have the Bengals and the Chargers coming up this Sunday night. This was a pleasure. I mean, aliens, JFK conspiracies.

[Mojo]

What?

[Chris Simms]

We hit it all.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah, we hit it all.

[Chris Simms]

I'm very happy about it.

[Stu Gatz]

Yeah, you just let me know, you know, anytime you want to dive into more some JFK stuff, let me know. But. Yeah, it's. It's crazy, man. I can. I got so many great stories for you that are, like, documented. It's. It's phenomenal.

[Chris Simms]

It really is. You also have a lot of work before we see you next week. You have two pitches to make on behalf half of you and Billy for a couple of shows.

[Billy]

I'm working on that. I'm gonna get back to Chris when we're good. Don't worry. Yeah, I'm working. I'll handle that. Chris, I got you.

[Stu Gatz]

You better be paying me a lot because that sounds a lot of wasting my time.

[Billy]

No, Peacock. Peacock will pay you. Don't worry. Not me.

[Stu Gatz]

Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. We'll put it on their tab.

[Billy]

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[Stu Gatz]

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[Mojo]

Did I hear you guys analyzing and discussing football? Do we still do that on this show?

[Chris Simms]

You know what? Our apologies. Yeah, I don't know what got into us. You know, that's what happens when you guys aren't around. When you're not around. Exactly.

[Mike Rollis]

It's very serious around here.

[Stu Gatz]

Right?

[Mojo]

Is. Is that a bad thing? Because, I mean, technically it's called God bless football, but if either Funk or I are on the show, obviously we're not going to be discussing football at all. We're just going to be insulting people the whole time.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, well, that's the way we like it. Don't change a thing.

[Billy]

It's funny you should mention him because I'm getting a little concerned because kfunk is always the first one to arrive and he's always the one kind of rounding up the troops and he's nowhere to be found today, which we did have something planned for him that fell through. But regardless, I. I legitimately do not know where K. Funk is. I texted him, where are you? And he hasn't responded. So I don't know what's going on with him today. I'm a little bit concerned. And here's. Here's the worst part about it. He actually had a winning week last week, the first time he's had one in about a month. And A half. And he's not here to even celebrate it.

[Mojo]

Well, I was wondering about that too, because I figured he would have came on to, like, talk trash or celebrate. I mean, I did give him a gift. I picked him winners. Now, I. I didn't give him a four and O or four and one or five and a week. I. I made it the smallest margin of a winning week as I possibly could.

[Stu Gatz]

So you.

[Chris Simms]

Mojo. Mojo. Just so we're clear, you went into it trying to give him a three in two weeks so he can feel good about. About it, Right?

[Mojo]

Correct. That's exactly what was happening. I was actually starting to get concerned about his.

[Chris Simms]

Right.

[Mojo]

His mental well being. You know, I think that's something we were gonna have to discuss on the show. But I figured time to give him a win to make him a winner, because obviously he's incapable of doing that himself.

[Chris Simms]

Right. That was very nice of you.

[Stu Gatz]

Great guy.

[Gordy]

What a great guy.

[Mojo]

Yeah, I'm a great guy.

[Stu Gatz]

I feel like you giving him three and two is like the jets win against the Texans, and I can't wait. Wait for him to get his ass kicked next week like the jets did with the Cardinals. Like, it's all just. Here's a little bit of hope. Here's a little bit of hope. Let's just go ahead and snatch it away. That.

[Mike Rollis]

That. That pick really blew up in your face, though, Mojo.

[Mojo]

Yeah.

[Mike Rollis]

Remember you tried it? You told me that me and my brother could kiss your ass and you were getting revenge for me taking your 247 championship when we were in WWE. Yeah, that really blew up.

[Mojo]

Well, that goes back to my earlier point, Rollis. I mean, that was actually a double win for me because it allowed me to give Funk a win, which he desperately needed, but it also gave me the opportunity to bury you. So that. That was kind of like a double whammy for me.

[Mike Rollis]

Well, I appreciate it. I mean, it worked out for me, so.

[Mojo]

Closing the gap, buddy.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, Billy, what are the records right now for the season?

[Billy]

So Mojo's still in first place with a.607 win percentage. He went down a little bit. He had a two and three week, but he's still leading the pack here.

[Chris Simms]

How about that? First place and he gave K. Funk a week. I mean, amazing.

[Gordy]

What a guy.

[Mojo]

What a guy.

[Billy]

Next amongst the regulars is Carl, who's 26, 19 to 1. Had a two and three week also, but still has a.576 win percentage. Now shooting up the standings is Mike Rolls, who now is one game under.500 at 17 and 18. Wow. He's past share bear share bears 21, 28 and 2 with a.431 win percentage. And then K. Funk last week, after his big three and two week, jumped over Gordy. So K. Funk is 1833 and two and Gordy is 1831 and two at the moment.

[Stu Gatz]

Right.

[Chris Simms]

Well, poor Gordy.

[Mojo]

He's a baseball guy.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, Gordy.

[Mojo]

Yeah. He's the equivalent of when we had Jabba on the show for so long. I mean, you can't rip a baseball guy for not, you know, making good.

[Chris Simms]

Oh, no, I'm not ripping him. I love Gordy and Gordy, listen, it doesn't matter if he loses this thing. Gordy's the big winner here. We all know that. It's Gordy or Carl. I mean.

[Mojo]

So, guys, what do we. What do we do with today's episode? There's only six of us. We actually can hear each other speak. I mean, we could tell stories and interactions. Like, this is a whole. We haven't had this since. I think I first came on the show.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

I don't know what to do with myself. Do you want to make your pegs and just give K. Funk the opposite? What do you want to do here if we.

[Mojo]

Are we going right into pics? I figured Mike Rollis had a good wrestling or football story for us that he could tell.

[Chris Simms]

I gotta be honest with you. We're a little upset with Mike Rollis because his brother's defense in the ass. Okay.

[Mojo]

Oh, wow.

[Stu Gatz]

No, I'm leaving it in.

[Mojo]

You know, I think what. What happens is his brother actually listens to this show.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Mojo]

When we talk trash about his defense, that's when he makes sure that they give up like two and a half points and just shut everything down. And when, when we praise him, you know, he lets his foot off the gas. I think that's how he's been coaching the Arizona Cardinals. Is that right, Mike?

[Mike Rollis]

Can you confirm that that could be the case? He doesn't respond to text during season very often, so if he's got enough time to listen to God Bless Football and not even respond to me, we might have an issue. But it is the bye week this week, so we're chilling in Arizona a little bit.

[Chris Simms]

Carl, I want you to make a ruling on this. We need you to make a ruling on this. We're going to start this without K. Funk. Okay. I'm not waiting here. Okay. Like so, Carl, from a legal standpoint, I'm going to let Mojo pick and K. Funk Gets the opposite of what Mojo picks. Is there anything K folk could do to us next week? Because you know he's going to be upset about it. Is there anything that he could do next week that will erase what's happening this week?

[Stu Gatz]

The only thing I would think he.

[Chris Simms]

Could do would be the next week he picks and gives Mojo his picks the opposite of his picks.

[Mojo]

Okay, I'm okay with that any week. I accept.

[Chris Simms]

All right, Mikey A. What's your suggestion here?

[Gordy]

No, no, no.

[Stu Gatz]

He can. He can erase last week's picks, this week's picks if he wants to. If he brings on Verlander and Kate Upton.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Chris Simms]

Oh, so, okay, you're saying if he has a bad record, he can make that bad record go away by bringing on Verlander and Kate Upton.

[Billy]

One.

[Mojo]

One alone is not enough. No, one alone is not enough.

[Chris Simms]

So, Mike Wallace, are you good with this arrangement? Is that. Are you okay with this?

[Mike Rollis]

Yeah, that works for me.

[Chris Simms]

Yep. Okay. Carl, are you good with this arrangement? If he, if he. If he can do, that's fine with me.

[Stu Gatz]

I want to see Kate myself.

[Chris Simms]

Okay. Not Berlander. Huh? Mojo, are you okay with this arrangement?

[Mojo]

I will forever be okay with any arrangement that allows me to pick opposite of K. Funk's picks. It's a guaranteed minimum four in one week for me. So that's how bad he is.

[Chris Simms]

All right, but you're making the picks this week, so you know. Okay.

[Mojo]

Yeah, I know. I don't know if I should be a good guy or not.

[Chris Simms]

Well, think about what K. Funk would do. Would do the opposite it.

[Mojo]

Okay, yeah, but if he just stays in last place, it's not even funny anymore. It's just like sad slash pathetic, right? Talking trash about him. He's not even here.

[Chris Simms]

He'll never come back. If he stays in last place, he'll never come back. You have the power to keep him happy, Mojo. Give him another three and two this week. I mean, damn it.

[Mojo]

All right, I'll.

[Chris Simms]

I'll, I'll.

[Mojo]

All right, fine.

[Billy]

He also, by the way, as I mentioned before, he jumped over Gordy. So Gordy, while having an off season, really is doing a service to K. Funk and his mental well being by having a worse season than K. Funk. Also, I don't think Gordy cares at all what his record is. Well, K. Funk cares.

[Chris Simms]

I don't think Gordon cares about anything.

[Billy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mojo]

I think Gordy does is he gets the tape and then he plays it in a room full of chicks while he's partying. He's like, hey, check me out on this cool podcast.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Mojo]

And he uses it as a. I bet you any money in the world that's what's happening.

[Billy]

No one checks the results. Doesn't matter.

[Mojo]

Or to get out of, like, parking and speeding tickets with the cops. And that's why he's befriended them and brought them on the show.

[Stu Gatz]

I know, Gord.

[Mojo]

I spent a lot of time with Gordon.

[Stu Gatz]

No, he's no longer in last place.

[Billy]

Yeah, I'll tell him he's not in last place anymore. Mike, by the way, you went hunting. How did. How did that go last week?

[Mike Rollis]

Struck out.

[Billy]

Huh.

[Chris Simms]

Oh, really?

[Mike Rollis]

Well, it was a slow week. I still got some. Some meat in the freezer from last time, but it was a slow week. I probably sat for over 30 hours, and I saw about five deer, and.

[Billy]

None of them were.

[Mike Rollis]

None of them were shooters, as we say. So good time in nature, good reset, you know, good time to let my charge on. God bless football here as I come for Mojo. Sink in and get a mental reset. But no, no deer.

[Chris Simms]

All right? What a life. You believe you got slide off. Carl. It was Carl. Carl. It was the line of the week on the entire episode last week where you just blurted out, no one on the Zoom works.

[Mike Rollis]

I thought this was work. That's what Mojo told me, Said, I got a job.

[Billy]

Carl, if you go back in time, what would you redo with your life? To end up, I guess, in a different path? Like, would you join. Would you become a wrestler?

[Mojo]

Maybe.

[Billy]

What would you do?

[Stu Gatz]

If I'd have.

[Chris Simms]

If I'd have grown to be 6 foot 3, I would have wanted to play basketball. Yeah. Yeah.

[Billy]

You've been a small basketball player.

[Stu Gatz]

I. I was the shortest guy in the ninth grade.

[Chris Simms]

Shortest males. And I wanted to be six three.

[Stu Gatz]

I had a good handle.

[Chris Simms]

But there you go, right? It worked out just fine for you, Carl. I gotta be honest. I'm not complaining.

[Stu Gatz]

I'm not complaining.

[Chris Simms]

All right, Billy, I'm gonna start. I'm gonna start making picks here. Okay. With the guys, and we'll. We'll see what happens with the K. We have the Ravens at the Steelers. That's the first game this weekend.

[Stu Gatz]

Week.

[Chris Simms]

I'll give you share. Bears pick. He took the Steelers. I'll give you Gordy's pick. He also took the Steelers. Ravens at Steelers. Steelers are plus three. I don't see Mojo there, so I'm gonna go to Carl Douglas first. Carl who? You take it here. My wife and her entire family are from Pittsburgh, so I'm taking The Steelers this time. All right. You're taking the Steelers. Mike, who do you have here?

[Mike Rollis]

Yeah, I mean, this is. I don't like how chalky it's getting here, but I gotta go with, I can't believe I'm picking Russell Wilson. He's like my sworn enemy. He doesn't know it, but, yeah, I think that. Home dogs. I'll go Steelers.

[Billy]

What's your issue with enemy?

[Chris Simms]

Thank you.

[Mike Rollis]

Oh, just. There, there. I never really bought into the whole college football rivalry. Rivalry, except with Wisconsin. Like, I hated Wisconsin so much. And Russell Wilson came in for one year, and, I mean, if I'm just going to be honest, he absolutely diced us up. He went, like 16 of 17 for 250 yards and 4 TDS or something like that. One time, I was blitzing, and he got outside me. I mean, I. I forced him out of bounce, but he. He evaded the sack and gained a couple yards. It was. It was a rough game.

[Chris Simms]

Let it go. So you're taking the Steelers hold on.

[Stu Gatz]

To that for life.

[Mike Rollis]

It's only been 12 years. I can't just let it go.

[Chris Simms]

All right, so you're taking. You're taking Russ here, huh?

[Mike Rollis]

Yeah, I'll take Russ.

[Chris Simms]

All right, Mojo, you are up. K gets the opposite.

[Mojo]

All right, well, I also played against Russell Wilson in college at the University of Maryland, and we also taxed that ass and beat the crap out of him and his team. So I obviously cannot pick him. And as a Maryland guy, you know, I'm not picking against Baltimore, so I will be taking the Ravens. Funk will be taking the Steelers. But seeing as how the other two guys took the Steelers, majority says that's the more popular pick. So that is the gift for Funk from Mojo.

[Chris Simms]

That's why you're good at this. I mean, Gordy took the Steelers, so.

[Mike Rollis]

Yeah, that's a bad side.

[Chris Simms]

Wait, so. So. So, Mojo, when you were playing against Russ in college, if I told you then that Russ would turn into this, you would have told me what?

[Mojo]

It's hard to say for a player to become that. That good at such a high level for that long, but I will say I would not be surprised that it happened. We played them. It was a monsoon, man. You couldn't get any traction. But I remember it wasn't the best play call, but it was. I believe it was, like, for the game, and he was, like, going for a Hail Mary. We were. We rushed three when they were protecting with, like, six or seven. I ended up missing sacking Russ three times in the Same play.

[Stu Gatz]

I just couldn't.

[Mojo]

I couldn't get there, man. One play in, one play.

[Stu Gatz]

He scrambled.

[Mojo]

I'm not even kidding when I say it might have been like an 18 second scramble. It was the longest we had the entire season. I mean, granted we're all getting frickin triple team, but still it was so ridiculous. They had like this offensive tackle that was. Was like 6 foot 9 or 10. He was massive. And Russ just disappeared behind him. You couldn't see him like he's just.

[Mike Rollis]

Now my question is, with the advanced statistics, do you get three pressures on one play for that? You know? Yeah, that like when you get a.

[Chris Simms]

He was panning the stats wrong.

[Mojo]

What the hell, man?

[Chris Simms]

He was padding his own stats. That is great.

[Mike Rollis]

Pressure rate skyrocketed on that.

[Chris Simms]

Mikey A is looking for. I believe Mikey A is looking for the play right now so we can show.

[Mojo]

Did you find that.

[Billy]

So rolls. You had eight tackles the game against Russ. Not a bad game for you.

[Mike Rollis]

Okay.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Mike Rollis]

I mean, look it they. Yeah, it didn't go well. I mean that's. I. We can promote that box score if we want.

[Stu Gatz]

You know.

[Mike Rollis]

I mean, when I.

[Chris Simms]

At the.

[Mike Rollis]

On the ESPN article, does it say Rollis has eight tackles in loss? Is that the. Is that the headline?

[Billy]

I mean, we could rewrite it that way, by the way.

[Mike Rollis]

Okay, honestly, you know what? Now that you mention it, that was kind of. The storyline coming out of that game was I had eight tackles.

[Billy]

If. If you did question whether or not he actually considers him his like nemesis or not, you were exactly right. He was like 17 of 18 for 178 yards, four touchdowns. And somehow with the four touchdowns, you guys lost 42 to 13.

[Chris Simms]

Damn.

[Mike Rollis]

Yeah, it was rough. I mean, it was like every time we sat back in cover two, they ran. They just, just like out coached us, outplayed us. Everything just diced us up.

[Billy]

Which is the worst, I guess, game that you remember? Like which do you have the most PTSD from? It's not the Russell Wilson game.

[Mike Rollis]

I mean we got absolutely stomped in Michigan. That was probably the worst.

[Chris Simms]

What was the score?

[Mike Rollis]

I don't remember.

[Chris Simms]

Really? Wow.

[Mike Rollis]

55. Nothing. Maybe. Like it was. It was rough.

[Chris Simms]

Listen, did Northwestern ever beat Minnesota when you're there?

[Mike Rollis]

Northwestern did. That was a close one that they had Trevor Simeon. Now you want to talk about. Couldn't believe that Trevor Simeon became. I mean he's been in the league now for like 15 years or something crazy. And like I think he went 1 for 7 against us. And they still beat us 21 to 13.

[Mojo]

I got a pretty good story, I gotta say. If we're talking about worst college moments here.

[Chris Simms]

Yes.

[Mojo]

Yeah, we're playing Boston College my senior year, we're at Boston College, I'm playing at Maryland. I believe the situation was if we beat them, we would go on to the ACC championship game. Likely. If. If we took the dub and I had this awesome play, I split a double team, tackle for loss, fourth fumble, we recover. And it was going to like seal the deal. And instead the ref called the running backs knee down. And it was total, like it was so obvious. I don't know why the coach didn't throw the flag. Maybe he didn't get it out in time. The next play, they take it in for a score that wins the game, right? So we go from going to the ACC championship game instead dropping all the way down to go to the road forties truck stopped Humanitarian bowl in Boise, Idaho. I was so pissed off, right? It was like my hero moment just ripped away from me. And we're going to the frickin toilet bowl literally afterwards. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, this day cannot get any worse. And I go back to my locker and the team, all showers, and they're all getting in the bus. I'm the last one to get in the showers, right? And I'm just so pissed off. Off and empty shower. Well, mind you, there's no one else showering in there but me. And then all of a sudden, I don't know if y'all remember Ralph French.

[Chris Simms]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mojo]

Big fridge.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah.

[Mojo]

Walks in butt naked, takes the shower right next to me. As soon as I got in, hadn't soaked up nothing, stank as hell, playing in the mud. Immediately just walked out of the shower, refused to be in that situation, so had to fly all the way home smelling like ass. After having my dreams torn out. That was, that was the dumps for me. That was my worst college moment.

[Chris Simms]

Smell like ass. Put that on the podcast.

[Billy]

So the quarterback, the quarterback in the game you guys lost 58 to nothing was Denard Robinson. But he was one of three quarterbacks because it was 38 nothing at halftime. So they then went and replaced the quarterback two more times. Time. Yeah, that's a rough one.

[Mike Rollis]

That was a fun one.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, it seems like you enjoyed it, Mike. All right, let's get to the. Let's get to the next game. Here we have Browns at Saints. Saints are minus one. Gordy has taken the Saints here. Share Bear has also taken the Saints I'm gonna go to you first, Mike. Mike, who you taking here? Browns at Saints, Saints minus one at home.

[Mike Rollis]

I mean, just to, you know, diversify a little bit here and. And give myself some insurance. I can't pick the same as Gordy again. I mean, that's just way too risky. So I'm going James Jameis Winston revenge game. I think he lights him up.

[Chris Simms]

Wow, I like that. Carl Douglas, who you taking here? Browns at Saints, Saints minus one. I've already made my picks before hearing about Gordy, but I'm going with the Saints as well. Okay, you're taking the Saints mojo. Who are you taking here?

[Mojo]

Well, I just arrived at a new strategy here. Instantaneously. If K. Funk takes all of Gord's picks, then there's no way he can get last place for the season.

[Chris Simms]

Done.

[Billy]

It's true.

[Chris Simms]

Yep.

[Mojo]

So I feel like that's a good friend move to make.

[Chris Simms]

All right, so have K. Funko opposite Gordy.

[Mojo]

No, no, no. To take all of Gord's picks.

[Chris Simms]

Okay.

[Billy]

He's slightly ahead of Gordy right now, I think, by a game.

[Chris Simms]

All right.

[Billy]

So he's gotta have to pass him at some point in time. Time.

[Chris Simms]

So is that what you want?

[Billy]

Then that leaves. What do we. What do we do with you? So are you taking opposite Gordy if K. Funk's taking all the same as Gordy?

[Mojo]

Oh, that's a. That's a good point, too. Well, for fun, let's. I'll take the Browns for this one.

[Billy]

Okay.

[Chris Simms]

All right, you'll take the Browns. Okay. Keep in mind, we want. We want K. Font to have a bad week here because we want to give him the ability to erase it, to have Verlander and up to Dawn, Right?

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Chris Simms]

Okay.

[Mojo]

He's been promising that for three years, man. It ain't happening. We gotta find somebody else.

[Chris Simms]

Wait until you throw an O and five in his face and see what the we all mean again.

[Billy]

We had something cooking for K. Funk to try to kind of get his mentals up. So it would be good if. If we do get that guest next week, if he's coming off of a bad week.

[Chris Simms]

That's true.

[Mojo]

So many storylines. There's a lot of ways we can go here.

[Chris Simms]

Poor K. I'm worried about him. He's never missed this segment. Let's go to Chiefs at Bills. A big game this week at Chiefs at Bill. Bills. The game's in Buffalo. We have Gordy taking the Bills here, minus two. We have Share Bear taking the Chiefs here plus two. Carl Douglas. I'll start with you. Chiefs at Bills. Bills minus two at home. I said it once, I'll say it again.

[Stu Gatz]

I'm not going against the Chiefs.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, I'll take the points. All right, Mike Rollos, who you taking here?

[Mike Rollis]

Yeah, they got it confirms after last week, they got some black magic going on over there. I. I don't know if it's Taylor Swift or Mahomes or Andy Reid or what, but, God, the Chiefs as underdogs. You got to go Chiefs.

[Chris Simms]

It's crazy. Chiefs underdog. Mojo, who you taking here?

[Mojo]

Gosh, man. Chiefs got the best referees in all of football, so that's helpful. Now, I'm looking at this from a storyline, perspective. Guys, they got to lose at some point, right? I mean, that keeps the fans on your side. You can't just go undefeated all year, that everybody will hate you. That doesn't help the NFL if everyone starts to turn on their babies. They need everyone to like this Taylor Swift relationship. And if there was a team to knock them off, I mean, the Bills certainly qualify to be that team. So, that being said, I guess I gotta stick with the previous strategy of keeping K Funk ahead of Gord Gordon. Or he can take the Bills and take the Chiefs.

[Chris Simms]

Okay. Okay, let's go. Let's go to the next game here. Bengals at Chargers. Chargers, they're playing well. Minus one and a half share. Bear took the Chargers. Gordy took the Bengals. Mike Rolls, who you taking here? Bengals at Chargers. Chargers, minus one and a half.

[Mike Rollis]

This is a really tough one. If you look at the Chargers wins this year, it's almost like the bottom of the draft. Like the start of the draft order. Like, they have hardly beaten a team that has more than two wins, but they are playing good ball. I mean, it's. Since it's a toss up for me, I'll go with. I'll take the points. I'll go Chargers.

[Chris Simms]

Okay. Carl Douglas, are you taking here? Mike has said everything I wanted to say. It's a tough game. I think the Charger defense will come through.

[Stu Gatz]

I'm a Ram fan, but I'll take.

[Chris Simms]

The Chargers and give me the points. All right. I like it. Carl. Mojo, who you taking here?

[Mojo]

I'm a man of my word. I said I wasn't picking the bungles at all this year. Plus, I just interviewed Sean Merriman for TMZ Sports just an hour ago. So I am going to take the Chargers. Plus, Gord, I think, took the bungles, too. So give Funk those guys.

[Chris Simms]

Did you invite Merriman on The podcast just.

[Mojo]

I think that would be a good addition for the show, actually.

[Chris Simms]

I agree. Let's get on that.

[Stu Gatz]

As.

[Mike Rollis]

As the. For the jets fans, is there a preferred winner here? This is a big, you know, this is a big wild card picture game.

[Chris Simms]

You know, I want the. I would want the Bengals to win. Right. Bengals have a worse record.

[Stu Gatz]

Six.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah. Bengals.

[Mike Rollis]

Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

But you could.

[Mike Rollis]

You could also argue you want to let the Chargers take like the five or six seed and get the Bengals further to the back of the line.

[Chris Simms]

Yeah, I. I'd rather get the Bengals to. To. To 4 and 7, I think.

[Stu Gatz]

Which one gives me hope because that's the one I don't want. I don't want anymore.

[Chris Simms]

Right. I don't want.

[Mike Rollis]

Fair enough.

[Chris Simms]

Wait, where's the AFC wild card at right now?

[Mike Rollis]

The Broncos, I think, are the 7 seed at like 5 and 5, so.

[Chris Simms]

5 and 5. I see what you're saying. So you get. You just kind of concede that. The Chargers. So they get the seven and three, Right. And then the jets, even if they win, they're at 4 and 7. You're chasing 5 and you're not really chasing the Chargers is what you're saying. We're more chasing the Bengals than the Chargers, Right? Yeah. Wow. To be a Jets fan is really up these days. It's the worst rubbing it in. I mean, just to hear.

[Stu Gatz]

Still go through that analysis.

[Chris Simms]

His brain working.

[Mojo]

Oh, my God.

[Chris Simms]

It's been my entire life is me trying to figure out and the 3 and 7 jets will make it to the playoffs. It unbelievable. All right, final game here. Texans at Cowboys. Cowboys. They're real and they're injured. Plus seven and a half. Gordy took the Cowboys here, taking the Texans. Sherbet also took the Cowboys at home. Take it on the Texans. Carl Douglas. Texans at Cowboys. Cowboys plus seven and a half. What you got? I've always learned from this show that you always take the points. Winneth a lot of points, but I hate the Cowboys.

[Billy]

I'll take the Texans.

[Chris Simms]

You learn nothing. I hate the Cowboy. Mike, who you take it.

[Mike Rollis]

I'm going with the Texans, too. I think CJ Stroud comes back a little pissed off and dices him up.

[Chris Simms]

Okay, Mojo, final pick here. Who you taking? You lost him for a second.

[Mojo]

To keep with the theme here, Funk will take the Cowboys, and I will take the Texans.

[Chris Simms]

Okay, wonderful. Let's. Let's all pray for K. Funk. We hope he returns week. I might reach out to him after this, to be honest. All right, before we get out of Here, Mike Rolls. Do you have anything to promote on the way out? Oh, yeah.

[Mike Rollis]

Rollis, regimen head there for your customized workout program. We'll get you feeling the best shape of your life.

[Chris Simms]

All right. Awesome. Carl Douglas, promote that big beautiful law firm out in LA for us. The one and only Douglas Hicks Law in Los Angeles. Angeles. Yeah.

[Stu Gatz]

We get Hicks on someday.

[Chris Simms]

Hey, sure, I'll get. Sure. Thank you. Let's go, Mojo. Promote only the way Mojo can promote on the way out.

[Mojo]

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[Chris Simms]

All right, boys. We appreciate it, Mojo. Thank you. And let's all hope that K Funk is back next week with Berlander and Upton spots here. For my friends over at Miller Light, holidays are right around the corner. They are. I love the holiday season. Who doesn't? I'm a Thanksgiving guy. I really am. I am a Thanksgiving guy. The food, the family, the football, and of course the ice cold Miller Lights. From family gatherings to holiday parties with friends, this season is for enjoying time with the most important people in your life. Make the holidays even better with Miller Light, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. I've been enjoying Miller Light during the holiday season with friends and family for many, many years. Really, all seasons, for many, many years. Now it is my go to beer. It's my only beer. It's the taste you can depend on. No games, no gimmicks. Just a great beer. For people who like beer, making memories at year end gatherings tastes like Miller time. Go to millerlite.com gbf to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Fewer calories in carbs than premium regular beer.