Stugotz (2:51)

Thank you. We are at New Orleans radio row super bowl week. Chiefs and Eagles coming up. And the Bear, Chris Felika is going to join us in about 10 minutes. Wow. To give us his gambling advice. Look at Mikey A's face. He's not even here and he's happy. I mean, I got those bets in before to make sure the line doesn't.

Billy Gill (3:10)

Move too much on me.

Mike Golick (3:11)

Bada boy. Real ball knower.

Stugotz (3:14)

He's ready.

Mike Golick (3:14)

Doesn't need the bear to come help out now, Mikey. Mikey A is the one who knocks.

Stugotz (3:19)

We're waiting for Billy to get here, unfortunately.

Mikey A (3:22)

Oh, geez.

Stugotz (3:23)

Billy ill. He's a little under the.

Mikey A (3:25)

He's sick before he gets the Super Bowl. Oh, that does not bode well.

Mike Golick (3:29)

I know, I know, Billy.

Stugotz (3:31)

Wow.

Mike Golick (3:31)

But that's. I mean, and down in this city especially, you're just asking for trouble.

Stugotz (3:36)

That's not good, Mike. So your dad thinks this is the best Super Bowl. Correct me if I'm wrong. The best super bowl city. New Orleans. Cuz it's a walking city.

Mike Golick (3:44)

Yep, it's a walking city. And like, it's not intimidated by the Super Bowl. Some team like city, the super bowl come to town, the super bowl becomes their whole personality. New Orleans is so much bigger than our football game.

Stugotz (3:55)

And you know what?

Mikey A (3:56)

There's plenty.

Stugotz (3:57)

You.

Dan Le Batard (3:57)

You.

Mikey A (3:57)

There's not like four places to go that are packed all the time.

Stugotz (4:00)

Yes.

Mikey A (4:01)

There's tons of little dives, bigger restaurants. You can always find a place to go get a. A beer or go get some food.

Stugotz (4:07)

Yep. What have you consumed so far, Mike?

Mikey A (4:11)

Redfish. Po boy.

Stugotz (4:12)

Yes.

Mikey A (4:13)

And jambalaya.

Stugotz (4:15)

Right.

Mikey A (4:16)

And followed that up. Wash that down with three beignets.

Stugotz (4:18)

Oh, wow.

Mikey A (4:19)

Yeah.

Stugotz (4:20)

Really?

Dan Le Batard (4:20)

Yeah.

Stugotz (4:20)

How do you feel?

Mikey A (4:21)

That was yesterday. I feel pretty good today. Today I'll hurt myself a little bit later. I'm gonna go get a workout in though. I think at least I'm gonna try. But yeah, I'm one of those. I will eat the local food.

Stugotz (4:32)

Aren't you promoting diabetes prevention? I mean. Yeah.

Mike Golick (4:37)

I mean, you need to have diabetes in order to then prevent or stave it off.

Stugotz (4:42)

Exactly.

Mike Golick (4:43)

Checkmate.

Stugotz (4:44)

You know what? I don't care that he doesn't have diabetes. That's what radio, roast, super bowl, we talk.

Mike Golick (4:49)

Oh, no, he's got diabetes.

Mikey A (4:51)

Oh, I have diabetes.

Mike Golick (4:52)

Rest ass. Sure. Well earned.

Dan Le Batard (4:54)

They are.

Stugotz (4:55)

Yeah.

Mike Golick (4:55)

Or not given, built different. But st. No, my dad went with the tried and true method of picking out food in New Orleans because we were talking about this the other night when we Were walking to dinner. And when you walk around down here, as a outsider coming in, the locals probably know how to discern this. But as an outsider, you see all these signs, and it said such and such. Home of this.

Stugotz (5:16)

Right.

Mike Golick (5:16)

Or the original that.

Stugotz (5:18)

Yes.

Mike Golick (5:18)

I have no idea if they're lying or telling the truth. And so dad went and looked, and he found home of the.

Dan Le Batard (5:23)

Whatever it was.

Mikey A (5:24)

Home of the blackened redfish. Po boy.

Stugotz (5:27)

Really? And I ordered. So you researched this.

Dan Le Batard (5:29)

No, no.

Mike Golick (5:30)

He just saw the sign.

Mikey A (5:31)

I just fell into the.

Stugotz (5:33)

And I did.

Mikey A (5:34)

I text Mike and I said, mike, I fell into the trap.

Stugotz (5:36)

Right. I'm in.

Mikey A (5:37)

I'm in the home of the xxxx.

Stugotz (5:40)

One of the many homes.

Mike Golick (5:41)

It's like in the movie Elf when he walks in.

Stugotz (5:44)

Wow.

Mike Golick (5:44)

World's best cup of coffee. Congratulations.

Stugotz (5:47)

No, it also reminds me, like, every city you'll find New York style. Joe's New York Style Pizza. Oh, exactly. Then you get in there, it tastes nothing like New York pizza.

Mikey A (5:54)

Oh, I fel right into the trap.

Mike Golick (5:57)

Oh, yeah, they served him fish that they imported from, like, California.

Stugotz (6:01)

Yeah, she.

Mikey A (6:02)

I. I ordered it. She walked back, said, another sucker out here.

Stugotz (6:05)

Yeah, we got it.

Mike Golick (6:06)

Skunk with scales put on.

Dan Le Batard (6:08)

Give him.

Mike Golick (6:08)

Give him the perch.

Stugotz (6:09)

Right? Oh, yeah.

Mike Golick (6:10)

We poured this out of the Gulf this morning. Get a little of this, nerd.

Stugotz (6:13)

I commend them for the false advertising. I have to be honest. Yeah.

Mikey A (6:16)

Suckered me and got my 25 bucks.

Stugotz (6:18)

Yeah, it's. It's the best. It's.

Mike Golick (6:20)

It's the Golic tried and true method here. If you're wandering a city near you, we can assure you after a lot of careful experiment, you'll have a good time. I don't know if it's authentic, but you'll have.

Stugotz (6:31)

But. And that's what I did.

Dan Le Batard (6:32)

I was just wandering.

Mikey A (6:33)

I was just looking at names of places, and I'll be damned if it didn't say home of. And it lured me in.

Stugotz (6:39)

I'm surprised that you think. I'm not saying it's a bad city. I'm. I'm delving into this. Right. But I like, I feel like warm weather now. We're getting good weather, but I think Glendale for me was probably as good as it gets.

Dan Le Batard (6:50)

Too far apart. Too far apart.

Mikey A (6:52)

2. If you. Here's my thing. If you have to get in a car, I'm done.

Stugotz (6:57)

Okay.

Mikey A (6:57)

I mean, because I can walk.

Stugotz (6:58)

And we did get into several cars.

Mikey A (6:59)

Vegas, I could walk everywhere, especially to the stadium. And here I can walk everywhere. To me again, it's what is best for me, not for the teams involved. Not for the Super Bowl. How does it affect moi?

Stugotz (7:15)

Yes.

Mike Golick (7:15)

It's dad and Stephen A. Smith. Like Stephen A. Smith wanting to move the All Star game or game, who the finals teams are because he wants a good.

Stugotz (7:23)

They.

Mike Golick (7:23)

They gotta handle two sites for that. That's a dangerous game. Super bowl, we get one and everyone's got a bid for it. Like everyone's groveling to the NFL for the chance to do this. The NBA, they actually have to leave it up to the teams that decide to be the best.

Stugotz (7:37)

Sucker business. It's crazy. How do you guys feel about the game? Like I like. So many people are saying, hey, not a fan of this game, don't want the matchup. Had the matchup two years ago. Even though it was one of the greatest Super Bowls. Yeah. We've ever seen. People seem to not want it again. And that. That's surprising to me. Why would you want this?

Mikey A (7:55)

Say they don't want it yet.

Stugotz (7:56)

The.

Mikey A (7:56)

The viewership will be just as high.

Stugotz (7:59)

I know.

Mikey A (8:00)

I mean, listen, I actually like Philly in the game because of Saquon. I think really just hammer them.

Stugotz (8:06)

Keeps Patrick off the field.

Mikey A (8:07)

If as long as Philly's not down two scores with five minutes to go, they better run the hell out of Saquon behind that old line.

Stugotz (8:14)

Set the narrative, Gojo. What are you smiling about?

Mike Golick (8:16)

You got to set the narrative for the week.

Stugotz (8:18)

And he fell right into it. He did. I know.

Dan Le Batard (8:20)

I picked.

Mikey A (8:20)

Listen, I picked Buffalo over Kansas City too. It's not like I wasn't wrong before.

Stugotz (8:23)

No. But I told Mikey a last week. Okay, forget about this. Last week I said I'm going to set the tone. Everyone's going to take Philadelphia because they have Saquon Barkley and that keeps Patrick Mahomes off the field. You'll walk right into it. Yes.

Mike Golick (8:36)

He set the narrative. And now you're in ST's NAR. You're part of the Stugots coaching tree at radio.

Dan Le Batard (8:41)

Congratulations.

Mikey A (8:42)

As soon as both games are over, I. I picked Philly.

Stugotz (8:44)

It's hard not to pick Philadelphia.

Mikey A (8:47)

Kansas City.

Mike Golick (8:48)

It's very easy to not pick Philadelphia. I made a problem total opposite of dad after the AFC championship game and after the championship round, I made a solemn vow to myself. I locked it in a time capsule and I opened it this week and it said, don't pick against the Chiefs. There's going to be a million shiny objects out there. They're going to tell you. Oh, man, the Eagles, they got so much talent on this roster. Look what Howie Roseman did this offseason. It's so great. Don't do it.

Stugotz (9:09)

Right. Don't do it. Yeah. So you know, I have to keep doing it. I do. Eventually I'm going to be right. I mean, yes, they're going to lose. At some point, the coin will land on tails. At some point, maybe. Gojo, I was asking your dad last week because I think Jason Kelsey is in a, is in a weird predicament, right? Oh, yeah. Where he's saying that he's rooting for the Eagles, but I don't think he's really rooting for the Eagles. And you should root for your brother. Right. He's retired. And so I was asking your dad, had Mike played at. If Notre Dame had played. Was it Alabama? Yeah, if he. Oh, no. If you went to Alabama and they played Notre Dame in the national championship game, would he root for you or would he root for Notre Dame? And he said he would root for, for you.

Mikey A (9:49)

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Stugotz (9:50)

So A, do you believe that he'd be rooting for you over his school? And B, should Jason Kelsey be rooting for his brother over his former team?

Mike Golick (9:58)

He said he is rooting for Travis to do well and you could have rooted for me to do well and still been fine if Notre Dame.

Dan Le Batard (10:06)

No, I would wanted your.

Stugotz (10:07)

What if it had been one of.

Mike Golick (10:08)

What if it would have been one of your brothers? What if it had been Bob? You guys played the NFL at the same time. Because kid's different. Like I fully think if this is one of Jason Kelce's kids and it's in the same spot, totally different. But if it's one of your brothers and let's say you had spent your whole, you already spent most of your career in Philly. Whole career in Philly. But Bob's playing in a Super bowl with somebody else against the Eagles.

Mikey A (10:28)

If I'm not playing for Philly anymore, I'm rooting for my brother.

Stugotz (10:32)

And Mike is right. Why is Jason feel the need to come out and root for the. He doesn't want the Eagles to win. The Eagles winning makes him look bad.

Mike Golick (10:39)

I, I, I, I do think he is like almost a mascot of that city, though. Like he was there for so long and was a part of so much winning for them. That's pretty tough to all of a sudden extract yourself from. I do think deep down where in place. He didn't talk about at parties, though. Yeah, those guys cry so much talking about each other, such a loving relationship.

Stugotz (10:58)

There's no way. Yeah. Yeah. Mike, are these Super Bowls still tough for you to come to? Like, because you told me one time, like, they're difficult because you never. You wanted to. The first time you wanted to come to a Super bowl was because you were playing.

Mikey A (11:11)

Right? Right. I think having worked the last couple have kind of taken that off, I was able to be on the sideline and work them. I did enjoy that.

Stugotz (11:19)

Right.

Mikey A (11:20)

So, yeah, I think I'm. Listen, I've been out of the league since 94. I better be over it. I mean, if I can't get over that.

Stugotz (11:28)

Right. Wow. Who do you think is going to win, Mike?

Mikey A (11:31)

I think Philly's going to win.

Stugotz (11:32)

I mean, who do you think is going to win? Go.

Mike Golick (11:33)

I think Kansas City wins.

Stugotz (11:35)

Really? And you're taking the Chiefs.

Mike Golick (11:37)

I'm taking the Chiefs.

Stugotz (11:38)

I like your chances. The Bears next. Stugaccia. I want to tell you a story. I'm serious here. My wife and my two daughters, they begged me to buy a peloton. So I bought a peloton. And then I watched that peloton sit in my office and stare at me. So you know what I did one day I looked at it and so I decided to get off my ass and I jumped on the peloton because no one else was using it and I paid for it. I mean, so why not? Then I realized eventually that they bought it for me. And I gotta tell you, way more challenging than I could have ever imagined. Peloton coaches are walking the walk. I love the coaches. I do the Grateful Dead one. It's fantastic. Fantastic. They have a sub three hour marathon runner, military trained athlete, a former college basketball player, and so many other well rounded coaches on their team. All this experience really shows in their classes, which are never short of challenging, especially for me. So I jumped on it that first time. It was challenging, more challenging than I thought. And then I wanted to beat the bike and so I kept jumping on it and I absolutely love it. I. I mean, I'm the only one who uses it, but again, they got it for me. I mean, I had no idea. That's a little passive aggressive that you think, find your push, find your power. With peloton@1peloton.com Mikey, remind me because it is very important to say the thing that everyone's going to say, but say it first. Yeah.

Nate Tice (13:10)

Timing is everything.

Stugotz (13:10)

Which is. And this will be the talk at Radio Row, I would say midweek, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, once they hear it from me and it starts spreading around Radio Row. So I want to be a trendsetter. I want to be the guy very important at Radio Row that you set the pace. Okay. That you come out first. And what I am telling you is what everyone's going to say, and they'll be ripping me off, is this Eagle team is better built to beat this Chiefs team than the last Eagles team was to beat that Chiefs team because of Saquon Barkley, because of their ability to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. And that will be their strategy. I said it first. They will run the ball. They will run it a lot in an effort, not only because it's a strength of theirs, but. But also to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field. That's it.

Nate Tice (14:04)

And they had to upgrade at center and everything.

Billy Gill (14:06)

Allow me to retort.

Stugotz (14:08)

Okay. Oh, wow. Retort of the week. This is. This is amazing. Go ahead with one word. Yes.

Billy Gill (14:16)

Spags.

Stugotz (14:17)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it.

Billy Gill (14:20)

Bags.

Stugotz (14:21)

I get it. But I'm just saying, like, people are going to say, they're not going to really make a prediction. They're going to say, hey, if the Eagles win, it's because of that offensive line, because of Saquon and their ability to do an 11 play drive 3 yards at a time for. For 12 minutes. That keeps Patrick Mahomes off the field. That's it. That will be the take.

Nate Tice (14:44)

It's a good strategy.

Stugotz (14:45)

Thank you.

Nate Tice (14:45)

It worked. It worked for everybody against Tom Brady that ever tried to beat Tom Brady and then rush and get pressure with four, Right.

Stugotz (14:52)

I'm not saying.

Billy Gill (14:53)

You know who stopped Tom Brady?

Stugotz (14:55)

Who?

Billy Gill (14:57)

Stags.

Stugotz (14:57)

Yeah. Well, you know who stopped?

Nate Tice (15:01)

I don't think he did.

Stugotz (15:03)

He did, but Tom Brady won.

Nate Tice (15:05)

Yeah.

Billy Gill (15:07)

No, the Giants.

Nate Tice (15:08)

Oh, you're agent.

Billy Gill (15:09)

Who's the defensive coordinator for the Giants?

Nate Tice (15:11)

That's agent history, right? Yeah.

Stugotz (15:13)

Yes.

Billy Gill (15:13)

Oh, I'm sorry.

Nate Tice (15:14)

I don't know when Brady. He was. Was Spags a coordinator for the Chiefs when they lost to the Bucks?

Stugotz (15:20)

I don't know.

Nate Tice (15:20)

I don't think he was. Was he?

Stugotz (15:22)

I'm not sure. It's a great question. I want to say no. What year?

Billy Gill (15:26)

Listen, don't dive too in Spags.

Stugotz (15:29)

No, that's not a rebuttal, Spags.

Billy Gill (15:32)

It's how dare you, sir? Spags is an absolute rebuttal.

Stugotz (15:37)

I would say Mahomes is the better rebuttal.

Nate Tice (15:39)

Yeah, that's the best rebuttal.

Demario Davis (15:40)

Right?

Billy Gill (15:41)

You just said the whole point is to keep my homes off the field. And I think it's hard to keep Mahomes off the field because.

Stugotz (15:51)

Got it.

Nate Tice (15:52)

Wait, how does that make any sense?

Stugotz (15:56)

Right?

Nate Tice (15:56)

How does that make any sense?

Billy Gill (15:57)

What do you mean, how does it make sense?

Nate Tice (15:58)

Because he can't keep the holes off the field.

Stugotz (16:01)

What Mikey is saying is they could try to run the football they want. Spags will have something ready for them that will prevent them from running the football. And Mahomes will be on the field the entire game, is what he's saying.

Nate Tice (16:11)

Well, you would think that the game plan for the Chiefs also would be like, make Jalen hurts throw, because that's the worst part of the offense, right?

Stugotz (16:17)

Yeah, of course it is.

Nate Tice (16:19)

The part that's not as good.

Stugotz (16:20)

Yeah. He's gonna beg Jalen hurts to beat him. Yeah. Bags.

Nate Tice (16:23)

Find it.

Dan Le Batard (16:24)

Find.

Nate Tice (16:24)

Find disgruntled AJ Brown and throw it to him a million times.

Chris Felica (16:27)

Yes.

Nate Tice (16:27)

And hopefully that works out.

Stugotz (16:28)

Yeah.

Mikey A (16:29)

Yeah.

Stugotz (16:31)

There's no way Jason Kelsey is rooting for the Eagles to win this game. I don't care what he says. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of the conversation. I'm ending the conversation by saying Jason Kelsey is not. Not rooting for the Eagles to win the game.

Nate Tice (16:43)

His mom will give him, like, a side eye.

Stugotz (16:46)

Who wants things to get better when you leave?

Dan Le Batard (16:48)

Exactly.

Stugotz (16:49)

Nobody.

Billy Gill (16:50)

But here's my question. Does Jason leave Travis sad in the locker room to go party with the Eagles if the Eagles win? Because I say yes.

Stugotz (17:01)

Yeah, I do, too. Listen, do you think the Bear, the first year he left college game day. Chris Felica, who's going to join us here in a. In a couple of minutes, do you think the Bear was rooting for Stanford Steve the first year he was away from college game day. Stanford Steve was dreadful that first year. And I'm telling you, Felika may have acted like he was a concerned friend. Hang in there. It's going to get better. He was cackling. He was delighted. And then Stanford Steed had one for the ages this year. And I'll tell you, the Bear wasn't happy about it. I don't care what he says. No one in the history of anything wants things to get better after they leave. They don't.

Nate Tice (17:41)

Well, this is like the. In public, he has to be happy for him.

Stugotz (17:45)

Of course.

Nate Tice (17:45)

And then the second the camera's off.

Stugotz (17:47)

Yes.

Nate Tice (17:47)

Curse at everything there is about him.

Dan Le Batard (17:49)

Steve.

Nate Tice (17:50)

How does he know? You know, like, how does he know?

Stugotz (17:53)

I'm excited.

Nate Tice (17:54)

I really hope he doesn't shoot down my, like, rushing prop bet thing. I've been riding it most of the season with Mahomes what's the worst super.

Stugotz (18:00)

Bowl bet you've ever made? Do you have one?

Nate Tice (18:02)

I mean, I have a lot of bad football bets. Like, I, I always see, like, these part. These parlays and have, like, multiple touchdowns from both teams. And it's like, wait, so you expect, like, seven touchdowns to be scored in this game? Like, a lot of people do that, right? And it's like, oh, well, I have. I have this kicker for two and a half over one and a half. And then these three guys on the same team scores a touchdown, and it's like, how many points you think they're gonna get? You're like, you know, and then you have to get this many guys in order. Like, you know.

Stugotz (18:27)

Yeah. If you guys had to guess.

Billy Gill (18:29)

Seahawks. Seahawks with the points was the worst bet. Well, it's, It's. I would say it's more of a bad beat than a bad, bad bet.

Stugotz (18:38)

But how many bets on the super bowl do you think Chris Felica currently has? Like, right now, at the moment, currently, at the time we're taping this, which, which is just over a week before the Super Bowl. If you had to guess the over or under on how many bets Felika has made on said super bowl, and I set the number at six, would you say over or under?

Billy Gill (19:04)

I mean, are we counting all the ones that he probably made preseason that included one of these two teams to win it? Because if that's the case, it's way over.

Stugotz (19:14)

Okay.

Dan Le Batard (19:14)

I mean, we're in.

Billy Gill (19:15)

We're in the. We're in the mid double digits.

Stugotz (19:16)

No, Mikey, I'm including those. I'm saying yes. Anything?

Billy Gill (19:19)

No, it's over.

Stugotz (19:20)

It's over. It's over. 6.

Billy Gill (19:22)

He grabbed the early line. He grabbed the hypothetical line.

Stugotz (19:26)

Right.

Billy Gill (19:26)

He grabbed the money line. He grabbed all the lines.

Stugotz (19:29)

Are you saying. Are you saying that he has a ton of parlays with the super bowl with the super bowl winner attached?

Billy Gill (19:36)

I like to think so. Otherwise, what are we doing here?

Stugotz (19:39)

He's next level. You're right. But he also likes to let things play out. Like, he wants to know who's injured. He wants to know. He needs all the information. He's a professional. He takes this seriously. The Bear is with us right now. Chris Felica, our friend. We were, we were discussing. We're about a week away from the Super Bowl. We were discussing. I sent the over under at six Bear as to how many bets you currently have on the Super Bowl. Mikey said way over.

Dan Le Batard (20:10)

I say under over on the actual game itself. Like, if we're in. If we're counting like, all of, like, the losers that I, that I had in terms of like, super bowl matchups and, and things like that, then, then, yes, it is indeed over. But in terms of this game itself, right, the number of bets I currently have in pocket is zero.

Stugotz (20:33)

Really? Really?

Dan Le Batard (20:35)

Yep, yep. Yeah, I, I, I have quite a few, like, bets involving like, those crossboard parlays that I put together. Yes, I have a good number of those with both the, like, the Eagles and Chiefs live to win. But in terms of like, any props or anything, like touchdown scores, things like that, I have not played anything. And the big reason why, okay, is I like to play a lot of unders. And I think what you're going to see over the next week or so is that you're going to see a lot of these prop yardage totals, reception totals, carry all these. The initial public push is always to bet it over. So, like, if you're looking for an under, someone like me is looking for an under. It's better off for me to wait because more often than not, I'm going to get a little bit of a better number than I would if I immediately rush out right away and bet a, bet an opener embedded under and it's, it's bumped up to a couple of yards, so. Well, yeah, I'll be, I'll be looking to hammer some unders over the next week or so.

Stugotz (21:38)

All right, so when would you actually, like, hone in, though? Like, you will hone in and say, here, like, here are the Bears bets.

Dan Le Batard (21:44)

You know, over the, over the next few days, probably Monday, Tuesday or so. I'll really take a good hard look at a lot of the props. The superbook put out their prop list last night and that, that's usually once they put their stuff out. I mean, it gets hit right away and the numbers move. I'll kind of take a look at all of their markets and just kind of dial in and see what I, what I'm going to bet. Like, there is one bet that I am looking at right now to that I, that I have my eye, my eye on, involving a Xavier Worthy longest rush.

Stugotz (22:19)

All right, hold on.

Dan Le Batard (22:20)

Rushing yards.

Stugotz (22:21)

Slow down a second, Bear. I have a pad and a pen. I got to write this down, so hold on a second, Mikey. You're writing this down. All right, I heard Worthy, so go ahead.

Dan Le Batard (22:32)

Yeah, no, I'm going to be looking at Xavier Worthy's rushing yardage over in this game. I don't know what it is. I'm guessing it's probably going to be around my guess is going to be around five, five and a half.

Nate Tice (22:43)

I'm seeing it right now and if.

Dan Le Batard (22:45)

It'S anywhere in that range I'm going to go over. I know I just said I like playing a bunch of unders but here, here I am with it over and the reason being is I'm not sure Isaiah Pacheco is fully healthy and fully immersed to be able to really contribute run running wise inside we've seen Kareem Kareem Hunt run. They did not really have a great game on the ground against Buffalo last time out. So I, I think you're going to see Andy Reid and and that offense try and get Worthy involved in the running game on some jet sweeps or anything like that. So I, I'd be looking at Xavier Worthy if it's anywhere in the area of like five and a half and potentially going over because he's been used in the running game quite a bit the second half of the year.

Nate Tice (23:25)

Chris Speaking of the running game, the last few Super Bowls I've really cashed in on quarterback rushing overs and right now the one I see is Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes 29 and a half. He had 40 something yards against the Bill. So if we were in a draftkings state and we were doing this, I was wondering what how you would feel about 29 and a half for Patrick Mahomes.

Dan Le Batard (23:44)

That number actually got blasted I think last night. I think it was somewhere around 24 and a half, 25 and a half and it's moved up quite a bit. So at that number I think it's hard because I would lean towards an under the way I would actually look to bet Mahomes is look for if they have like a longest rush single carry prop because odds are he'll have one of those scrambles where he breaks contained and he runs for 12, 13, 14 yards and they move the sticks and probably that'll be good enough to go over that that yard. But Mahomes is one of the was it was a central figure in one of the worst beats ever in a Super bowl prop the super bowl against the 49ers a few years ago in Miami he had those ridiculous kneel downs where it was like I'm going to lose seven yards, I'm going to lose eight yards and he was way over his Russian total for the game and then those rushing yard, the kneel downs lost him. So I like thinking of like the the game theory and how I think the game is going to play out and if it's going to be a close game and you think maybe the Chiefs are going to win, then maybe there is a victory formation and he's losing maybe three kneel downs. Maybe he's losing eight, nine, 10 yards on those three carries and that ultimately could do you in. So I look a longest individual carry for Mahomes, more than I would just going over in the game.

Stugotz (25:10)

So take the under. I mean.

Dan Le Batard (25:12)

Yeah, yeah, that's what I would. I would, I'd go under 29 and a half if that's what it is now.

Stugotz (25:17)

Okay, wait a second. Did you have the Mahomes over that year? The year he kept kneeling?

Dan Le Batard (25:21)

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

Stugotz (25:25)

You didn't sound bitter at all.

Nate Tice (25:30)

It just takes that one time. That one time ruins it forever.

Stugotz (25:34)

Go ahead.

Billy Gill (25:36)

Speaking of longest rush, I feel like it doesn't matter what that number is for Saquon Barkley because he's going to get it on the first carry. Saquon Barkley, longest rush last few times I've seen it in the high 20s. Are you still thinking that they're going to be able to do that this time around against the Chiefs?

Dan Le Batard (25:53)

I think it's 26 and a half. I think is what the superbook put up there last night. And I know Bill Crackenberger, who's a really sharp pro better. He immediately bet the under and I don't know if I agree with him there. I think that Chiefs rush defense has been a little spotty. I would bet over 26 and a half before I would under but I, I certainly wouldn't argue with anyone if, if, if you did go, if you did go under thinking maybe Kansas City and Spags and that D has things locked up but they haven't been able to put this high enough. Like you said the last couple of weeks. First carry last week, what 65 yards, whatever the hell it was to the house and nothing better than cashing a bet on the first play of the game. Yeah, but yeah, I would lean towards over this because he seems to always break at least one long run. The thing I'm going to be curious about with the Eagles in the running game and all these running props here, I'm curious what they post like Will Shipley's numbers at because we don't know if Gainwell is going to play. Gainwell is someone that Jeff Schwartz and I have loved to play overs. We had his over in the, in the Rams game. We had it. We had his over the round before that as well. And they all hit. Then we had the overs again last time out against Washington and he would have gone under, but he fell a half a yard short and then unfortunately got hurt on that kickoff return. So we'll see if he's going to be able to play, but maybe, maybe the, the Shipley numbers might be a little deflated too. Again, we don't know how much play he's going to get because that was a blowout game. And how much will they bench Saquon to get him a little bit of a rest? So it's going to be curious to see how the Eagles offense might be affected. Saquon get more carries, Shipley get more carries, how they kind of balance that out. If you have a, if you have an idea on that, you might have a little bit of an edge on those numbers.

Stugotz (27:37)

Guys, this is very exciting and I'm sorry I didn't get to it sooner. The Bear is part of the FOX pregame show for the Super Bowl. I mean, I am, I think the Bear would rather be on his couch watching the game, but he's going to be a part of the FOX pregame show. What are you doing for the FOX pregame show?

Dan Le Batard (27:54)

That is amazing. I'm probably going to be doing exactly what I'm doing with you right now. Ripping through a bunch of debts that I have made or would mater. Break. Break down the game for, for all the. Yeah, I'm looking forward to. I'm sure it'll be a fun little, A fun little segment and then I'll get, get back to the green room or the hotel or the sports bar, wherever the hell we're. We're going to be set up or sideline. Not. Definitely not the sideline, I can tell you that. But somewhere watching the game with the. Of all my pals.

Stugotz (28:20)

Do you have access. Do you have access to the sidelines?

Dan Le Batard (28:24)

I doubt it. I know I have a credential, but I'm sure it just gets me in the dome for that day. And I'm sure I shouldn't say I'm sure, but I would imagine that Fox has some type of green room set up somewhere that, I mean, I'll have access to that, but I'm not. The NFL is never a access sideline. They like those clean sidelines. Who. Guys, you know that.

Stugotz (28:45)

I know. Where do you rank New Orleans in terms of cities that host championship games?

Dan Le Batard (28:50)

Oh, absolutely. Near the top.

Stugotz (28:52)

Everyone says that. Everybody.

Dan Le Batard (28:54)

It's because the, the, the, the, the, the atmosphere, the, the food, everything about the city is great. Bourbon street and just all the different restaurants. And of course you've got the casinos there, which always are never a bad thing. But yeah, in terms of the city itself, that part is great. However, I won't say the top because the airport is a pain in the ass. It's. There's flights in and out of. There are few and far between difficult connections. The weather can kind of be like, you never hit or miss. It could be really rainy, it could be unusually chilly, or it could just be like super swamp humid. So it's like the core of it itself, like the heart of it. Like the really, really important things, the food in the atmosphere. Great. But all the. The ancillary stuff about flights in and out and weather potentially. But I'm looking forward to getting down there.

Stugotz (29:56)

I will tell you guys that the Bear was nice enough to invite me to dinner on. On Wednesday with Jeff Schwartz. He said I could bring a plus one. I'm not certain who that plus one is going to be. It might be Billy Gill, but Bear is asking me to have dinner at 5:15. I mean, holy, dude, I am old, but I'm not that old, man.

Dan Le Batard (30:17)

When I saw. When I went to make the reservations, it was like I put in like 7:30. I'm like, oh, perfect. And 7:30, nothing. 7:15, nothing. 7 nothing. So I'm like like the. The two highlighted. The first two highlighted boxes I saw were 515 and like 9.

Stugotz (30:34)

Right.

Dan Le Batard (30:34)

And I'm like, God. I'm like, I definitely can't do nine because we actually have to be up on Thursday morning to do some bare bets digital stuff. So like, we. I can't really have a night owl type thing.

Stugotz (30:47)

Right.

Dan Le Batard (30:47)

But I'm like, you know what? I'm still going to be a little bit on. He's gonna be my first day there. So I'm going to be a little bit on east coast time, still the hour travel. I'll be looking to settle in and then there's no time limit on this dinner. We can get there.

Stugotz (31:01)

I understand.

Dan Le Batard (31:02)

5:15, enjoy a drink and then. Okay, we're ready to order now, so. Yeah, we. We can milk it a little.

Stugotz (31:08)

Me and Schwartz, couple of Jews cutting it up. How about that?

Dan Le Batard (31:11)

Perfect.

Stugotz (31:11)

Yeah.

Dan Le Batard (31:11)

GW Fins. By the way, we'll give GW fans a very gratuitous prop.

Stugotz (31:16)

Very nice. Good job. You can't do that on the pregame lobster.

Dan Le Batard (31:21)

The lobster dumplings at Ravioli are unbelievable.

Stugotz (31:23)

Right? Mikey is mad that we're having dinner and he's not coming. He's very upset. I can see it all over him.

Dan Le Batard (31:29)

I'm sorry.

Stugotz (31:30)

I tried, Mikey. Go ahead.

Dan Le Batard (31:33)

Did you though?

Demario Davis (31:34)

Did you though?

Stugotz (31:34)

I. Billy did.

Billy Gill (31:36)

I think Bear tried just as much.

Stugotz (31:39)

Billy tried harder. He did. In his defense. Go ahead.

Billy Gill (31:42)

I believe that.

Stugotz (31:44)

I know you do. Go ahead, Bear.

Nate Tice (31:46)

Now that you mentioned casinos, I'm a big casino guy, especially roulette. And when I was in Vegas last year, I had an idea that I'm going to set up pool all my perdia money from metal arc here. And I'm just gonna put it on a color on the roulette table. I didn't get a chance to do it last year, so. Because I figure if I lose the money, I just pay for my own meals all week.

Dan Le Batard (32:03)

Love it.

Nate Tice (32:03)

Or I can double my cash. Right. So if you were hypothetically going to be a casino and you're betting a color, red or black, what is the bear put the money on?

Dan Le Batard (32:13)

I'm gonna go red. I know the motto on the other side there. But I'm a big Liverpool guy, so it's like the right of Liverpool reds.

Nate Tice (32:23)

Oh, that's. That's great reasoning.

Dan Le Batard (32:24)

We're dominating the world right now.

Nate Tice (32:26)

That's a good point.

Stugotz (32:26)

Are you?

Dan Le Batard (32:28)

I'll go red.

Nate Tice (32:28)

Okay, you'd rather.

Dan Le Batard (32:30)

You'd rather go. See, that's a. Because you get what you get double. So you'd rather do that one spiel, one spin of the roulette wheel, then just go down, sit in and be a grasshopper at a blackjack table. Sit down. Here is whatever I want and play one hand.

Nate Tice (32:45)

I don't want to think about it. I want to put it all on one thing for the week. Either double my money or I pay for my meals. That's it.

Stugotz (32:50)

I love the term grasshopper. That is.

Nate Tice (32:52)

That's a great term.

Billy Gill (32:54)

I also love the idea of him taking all that money, putting it in blackjack and he's getting aces and then he's got to split him and then he gets aces again and he splits it again and he winds up losing everything.

Dan Le Batard (33:04)

Or, or, or a split and then it double down as well.

Nate Tice (33:08)

Yeah, and the money's coming out of my own pocket.

Dan Le Batard (33:10)

Five times the stake out there and oh, lose everything. That's a very nice. Yeah, the. The dealer turns over like the other showing like 4, 9, 13, 16, 20. No, everyone loses.

Nate Tice (33:28)

Now you're giving me PTSD because for my birthday I went down to the casino and I had to split eights three times. So I kept splitting and then I had three 18s and the dealer had, I think she was showing a, a 7 and then she ends up, I'm like, you know, you get a 10, it's over a 2 and then a 10. That was at 19. I lost all three hands, right?

Stugotz (33:43)

Yeah.

Dan Le Batard (33:44)

Yeah. I don't think I've ever walked out of Harrah's in New Orleans ahead. So it's probably to my benefit not to.

Stugotz (33:52)

And he takes it seriously.

Dan Le Batard (33:53)

Even though I do want to go in there and see if they, if they are using the, the Caesars Las Vegas sports book. That's what I am curious about because there is a Kentucky Derby future I'm looking to get down on. So if they have a, they have Kentucky. If they have Kentucky Derby future prices up there, I want to check that out.

Stugotz (34:11)

I love it.

Billy Gill (34:13)

My pen and pad is ready.

Dan Le Batard (34:14)

What Kentucky talked about it yet?

Stugotz (34:18)

It's not a fully fleshed out idea. I'll cut it out.

Dan Le Batard (34:21)

I'll cut it out. I cannot reveal. See, the only place I know you can bet it is the Caesar's future book in Las Vegas. The only spot that I know that has it up. And obviously I'm not in Las Vegas and I looked at the app in Massachusetts where I could drive to Massachusetts and bet it and they don't have it up. Like circa in Las Vegas doesn't have it up. So like I'm curious to see with the Caesars Vegas race book will be be up in New Orleans. I'm excited about that.

Stugotz (34:51)

I love you so much, Bear. I really do. By the time Super Bowl Sunday rolls around, how many bets will you have on the Super Bowl? Like.

Dan Le Batard (35:00)

Probably at least a dozen probably. I don't like to really spread myself super thin just because I, the more, the more you, the more you have, the more likely you are to kind of level out and move closer to 500. But I'll, I'll hit, I'll hit a half a dozen or so probably really good and I'll probably wind up having like a, like a total of 12 or so. I know everyone's going to want everyone. Like everyone loves like the anthem bets and like the, the, the Kendrick Lamar like songless bets. But like you can't really get down on those anymore. Like a couple years ago, like when word got out about idiots out there tweeting the. Oh, the anthem is be a minute and 37 seconds and like every offshore sports book in the world took it down. So you can get the information now for the most part. And yeah, you've Got moles in there with the. With the rehearsal crew, and hey, it's going to be blah, blah, blah, but there really aren't many places that. That take that anymore. Jeff Schwarz actually tells a great story about the. The Gatorade color for the super bowl, right? Like when Jared Lorenzen, the deceased quarterback for the Giants, like, I don't know if it was him or one of his buddies, like, they went by the. Like, like, peaked in all, like the Gatorade color. Like the Gatorade buckets on the sideline. And like, looking at. It's like purple Gatorade. I'm like, oh, yeah, the Gatorade's purple. So, like, everyone was like betting purple Gatorade that day because of the information directly from the sideline. So like a. He tells it much better than I do. So if we. At dinner on Wednesday or just listen to the very best podcast, he told the story on the pod the other day.

Stugotz (36:37)

That was a great book.

Dan Le Batard (36:39)

Direct information from the sideline for Jared Lorenzen about the. The Gatorade being purple.

Stugotz (36:43)

But I would imagine, like Gatorade color, coin toss, length of the national anthem. All that stuff is beneath you, bear, right? Is that fair?

Dan Le Batard (36:50)

No, not at all.

Stugotz (36:51)

Really.

Dan Le Batard (36:52)

I. I weigh. I will.

Billy Gill (36:55)

Money is money.

Dan Le Batard (36:55)

It's everywhere. I mean, exactly. Right? There was.

Stugotz (36:58)

I feel shame when I bet those.

Dan Le Batard (37:00)

I mean, the year, and this is however many years ago, it was the year that Justin Timberlake was the halftime act, right? A friend of a friend was involved with JT somehow and either helped him write songs or a band manager, something. And I was like, let me find out here. And I hit my body up. I'm like, hey, would you mind asking blah, blah, blah about like, blah? And he's like, yeah, what do you want to know? And I'm like, looking at the prop list, I'm like, well, Justin Timberlake, we wearing a hat. And you hear my buddy on it, hey, is JT wearing a hat and you're. No. Will Justin Timberlake have facial hair? He doesn't have a beer or anything, does he? No. And I try. Perfect, right? And so that was a. And ever since then, my. My ability to find places to get down on halftime show props and anthem props has been few and far between.

Stugotz (38:02)

Insider trading.

Dan Le Batard (38:03)

Exactly.

Stugotz (38:05)

But very smart.

Dan Le Batard (38:06)

No, believe me, we're not talking about massive amounts of money here.

Stugotz (38:09)

No, I know, but you like the prop bets as long as you know the outcome in advance. Correct. Like, if you know it's going to be hedge, you'll bet the coin does Correct. But how would you possibly know that?

Dan Le Batard (38:19)

No, now you wouldn't know. Yeah, it's funny. That is like the most bit prop I know. Tails never fails. And you got people out there saying like, yeah, well, the reason people say tails because like the head is a little bit heavier on the commemorative coin. So naturally I'm like, whatever. I'm gonna let. I'm gonna let you throw your money away on that. What I'll stick to. I'll stick to Gatorade call. I'll stick to Xavier Worthy and his. His longest carry and who will score the. The last touchdown of the game. Blah, blah, blah. So actually there's another prop out there I heard this year too. Like, will there be a. A touchdown via the tush push? Which I I, I don't know what the price was now, but someone was telling me that there was a, a prop. I hate that damn play.

Stugotz (39:07)

It's got to be like a. It's got to be minus a thousand.

Dan Le Batard (39:10)

It has, I'm sure.

Stugotz (39:11)

Yeah.

Dan Le Batard (39:11)

They need to get rid of that. It's so bad. It's not a, it's not a football play, right?

Stugotz (39:16)

It. And it's a rugby, right? And you can't blame the defense for trying to time it and jumping off sides. You can't do that either. Like, something's got to give there, right?

Dan Le Batard (39:24)

Well, you're just gonna let the default. Okay, no, but you know, we're not gonna try and time it and jump. You're just gonna let shove Jalen hurts his ass into the end zone. Like, give me a break.

Stugotz (39:33)

Right?

Dan Le Batard (39:34)

And then I think I heard one of the. Like someone was saying like the official post game like in the. They asked him about the timing of it and they're like, well, the, the play clock is what the is what the team is competing against on offense. So that's their defense. Whereas the, the defense is trying to just create it. I'm like, boy, whatever.

Nate Tice (39:51)

Yeah, you hate it.

Dan Le Batard (39:52)

Unless dumbass play. Lose it.

Nate Tice (39:53)

Unless you're a Jalen hurts anytime. Touchdown. Better. Then you love it, right?

Dan Le Batard (39:57)

Yeah. Or you bet.

Stugotz (39:59)

Yes on the Tush push.

Nate Tice (40:00)

Love the Tush push. It's great.

Stugotz (40:04)

But I'm with you. What's the best super bowl bet you've ever made? Like, there's one that you remember Bear. There's one you think back at you.

Mike Golick (40:11)

Like, oh, Tori Holt.

Dan Le Batard (40:13)

Tori Holt. First touchdown score. Rams Titans in that Super Bowl. Think it was like 15, 16 to 1. And that was A. I remember ABC had the game, so I was working it and it was in our little green room viewing area with a bunch of former players who obviously can't bet. And I was like, here's what I. Here's what I. Here's what I bet on. And when Torri Holt scored, one of the guys was like, wait a minute, you just won? I'm like, yeah. He's like, oh my God, that's awesome. So they're like so like obtuse to anything that's going on there, right? But yeah. Tori Holt. Tori Holt for first touchdown in Titans Rams super bowl is my favorite experience. The. The Patrick Mahomes kneel down rushing prop over loss was a bad one. I had Aaron Donald in the MVP in the Rams Bengals super bowl and he should have been, but he wasn't. I had Falcons money line against the Patriots when they pissed away the 28.3lead. So more often than not, the super bowl memories that I have are, are, oh, I had a Kyle Juice Chick touchdown last year as well. So that was a, that was a good score as well. But. But most of the super bowl memories are.

Stugotz (41:26)

Are more.

Dan Le Batard (41:27)

More bad than good.

Billy Gill (41:29)

Bear, I can't believe we haven't asked you yet. Who are you taking in the game, though?

Stugotz (41:34)

I don't think he knows yet.

Dan Le Batard (41:36)

I. I'm.

Billy Gill (41:38)

He has an idea of what he wants.

Stugotz (41:40)

Yeah.

Billy Gill (41:40)

But he's waiting for the right number.

Stugotz (41:42)

So you're aware this will not air until Tuesday. Just so you know, Bear. Okay.

Dan Le Batard (41:48)

No one's listening anyway.

Stugotz (41:50)

Right.

Dan Le Batard (41:52)

I'm trying to get a lot of group think like out there and just kind of see where people's minds are and maybe not be on the side of the group think if that makes sense. Like it seems like right now most people are in the camp of oh, the Eagles are the better team and they got Barkley now and they were, they were favored a couple of years ago and now they're better than they were. And so, so they should win and Barkley should be the mvp. And that's kind of been the prevailing school of thought I've heard out there right now. But, but like I'm, I'm really looking for any reason I can to bet the Chiefs. Because if you bet against the Chiefs and you lose, you're like, what the hell was I doing? Exactly like you, you deserve. You deserve whatever you get.

Stugotz (42:37)

Yeah.

Dan Le Batard (42:37)

If you look to fade him and you do. I mean, they've lost what, one real game in the last year that was the game to the Bills and like the, the playoff losses that, that Mahomes has Had have just been like the one super bowl they lost where they were without what, four off starting offensive lineman against Tampa Bay. It's like, it's hard to pull the trigger and bet a bet against them. So I'm. I think when push comes to shove, you see shove. But should push. See what I did there? I'll probably. I'll probably wind up betting bet in Kansas City would probably be the way I think I'm gonna wind up going.

Stugotz (43:13)

It's all about, can you put your head down on the pillow at night and fall asleep peacefully? Okay. And if you. Listen, if you bet Mahomes and you win, great. If you're betting, I'm with you on this. You bet against Mahomes, you'll have. And you lose, you'll have sleepless nights for like a week, you know.

Dan Le Batard (43:28)

What the hell was I doing?

Stugotz (43:32)

You're so right. What's the worst bet you've made?

Dan Le Batard (43:35)

The worst bet I've made?

Stugotz (43:37)

Yes.

Dan Le Batard (43:38)

In. In what? In the Super Bowl.

Stugotz (43:40)

On the Super Bowl? Yeah.

Dan Le Batard (43:41)

Oh, God.

Billy Gill (43:43)

Jets to win.

Dan Le Batard (43:44)

I was going to say betting the Jets.

Stugotz (43:46)

He never bet that season this year.

Dan Le Batard (43:47)

Does that count?

Stugotz (43:48)

Did you really bet that?

Chris Felica (43:50)

Of course he did.

Dan Le Batard (43:51)

I did.

Billy Gill (43:52)

You don't even cash that ticket. You frame it.

Dan Le Batard (43:56)

I. I did because I was not. We went think back to the beginning of the season where we were, bruh.

Stugotz (44:02)

Yeah.

Dan Le Batard (44:03)

The roster that they had and the way the schedule shook down and like, people weren't sold on Buffalo being great this year. I wasn't sold on the Dolphins. You knew the Patriots were going to be one of the worst teams in the league. And it's like you could have seen a scenario where they were starting like, like 7 and 1 and like making a real run and then just went downhill from there. But yeah, it never, never, never again. As SVP said on his pod a couple of weeks ago about his travel back from the college football championship game. Yeah, never again, never again will I bet on the jets to make or win the super bowl. Because hope is a dangerous thing with that he never, ever, ever, ever. Do you want to give yourself an ounce of hope and optimism with the jets because they'll just absolutely kneecap you.

Stugotz (44:49)

Well, since you brought them up, would you make of their coaching hire? I liked it same.

Dan Le Batard (44:53)

I mean, I heard it was either going to be him or Joe Brady were the two front runners.

Stugotz (44:58)

Right.

Dan Le Batard (44:59)

I think it's good to have someone maybe, maybe who, who is there and is familiar with the organization and was there the, the last time they had an ounce of positive coaching and a positive front office and positive results are coming close to the Super Bowl. We will see. Obviously, the staff is going to be important. What they do at quarterback is going to be important. They'll have the benefits of a. A lesser schedule this year which, which will be good. But. Yeah, what do you do with quarterback? I mean, is Aaron going to come back for another year? Are they going to go Tyrod Taylor for a year? They're going to find another bridge quarterback for the year. You're probably not going to be drafting a quarterback where they are 10 because they have so many different holes that they need to fill. But look, obviously the NFL is a league where you can turn things around pretty quickly. But, but, but I think someone there who kind of understands what jets fans have gone through for the last however many years. I think that's a. Yes, that's a good thing. Especially he was, he lived it in Detroit as well. He was part of a massive turnaround and Beacon that city believe. So maybe he can do. Do the same with the Jets. I just hope I don't have the number of times we're going to see Mark Ingram catching the fake spike against there in front of Aaron Glenn to the next start of the regular season. How many times? We see that a lot.

Stugotz (46:19)

But Bear, you know what he wants to be there. And you're right. He knows the, he knows the pain of the Jet fans. He knows what we want. He knows how bad it's been for how long and for how long. But most importantly, he hopes that this is his last job in the NFL. And that's very important. We don't normally get a coach who. This is the final destination for. Aaron Glenn wants this to be his final destination. So I like that.

Dan Le Batard (46:41)

Well, no, we, we had a coach who. It was his final cut job. Rich Kotite.

Stugotz (46:44)

Oh, that's right.

Dan Le Batard (46:45)

And it was his final job in the NFL. If only the team.

Stugotz (46:48)

The same sentence there.

Dan Le Batard (46:50)

Yeah. Yeah.

Stugotz (46:52)

Do you want Aaron Rodgers back?

Dan Le Batard (46:57)

Yeah, I think that's an answer.

Stugotz (46:59)

It was such a good answer.

Dan Le Batard (47:00)

No, no, that was an answer.

Stugotz (47:02)

I think we should just leave.

Dan Le Batard (47:03)

It's probably out there, right?

Stugotz (47:06)

Yeah. Yes, he is.

Dan Le Batard (47:08)

I, I think if you could bring back him for, for, for one year. Does he have, does he have one year left on his deal? I don't even know.

Stugotz (47:16)

No, they'd have to.

Billy Gill (47:17)

They have to restructure a little bit. But if he wants to be there, he'll make it work.

Stugotz (47:22)

Bear, he's the best option of the.

Dan Le Batard (47:23)

Year and then maybe Maybe you draft to take a flyer on like a, a, a quarterback. Well he's going to get, he's going to move into the first round. He, he's the, he's the, he's the pie riser right now. He's, he's, he's going to wind up moving into the first round. So that's, but you draft someone that, that maybe, maybe has a chance. I don't know who that is right now. And then next year obviously Garrett Nuss Meyer is going to be a, a guy who would probably be QB1 if he was coming out this year. So there, there might be some options next year as well. But I think for like if you're looking for one year, I think you'd probably be better off seeing if Aaron wants to come back for one more year.

Stugotz (48:04)

No question. We'll get you out of here. On this note, the Bear went to the University of Miami. He is a Big Cane's fan. Big Cane supporter. Are the Canes back?

Dan Le Batard (48:16)

Define back.

Stugotz (48:17)

Carson Beck your thoughts.

Dan Le Batard (48:20)

I it makes all the sense in the world and I'm glad they, I mean they needed to do something because you were not going to be able to go into that next season with Emory Williams as your starting quarterback. But the, the issue now is you need to find people around him. You need some of those recruits to step up at wide receiver in tight end and be players that they, they thought they could be. Maybe you can find someone in the the second portal go round who the hell knows. He changes defensive coordinator. Seems like it's probably a, a good thing. But yeah, you'll need your secondary to to be better and they've made steps to address that. I think you're probably looking at it again. Another schedule is a little bit more difficult this year. They open with Notre Dame down there at Joe Robbie. I'll never call it anything else.

Stugotz (49:05)

Right.

Dan Le Batard (49:05)

Because you can't take the guy's name off of a stadium.

Stugotz (49:07)

Right.

Dan Le Batard (49:07)

But I think if you're looking at the fact that you've got Notre Dame, you have Florida non conference like you should be in the ACC championship game next year and again they should have been in the SEC championship game this year with the best quarterback they've had in school history. But their defense was a sip and they couldn't. But are they. I hate they'll never be back to what of course I know them as and what all of our my generation of Miami alums and friends and fans and know of know of them as being back but any to to not expect them to compete to make the College Football Playoff next year. They'll absolutely compete to do that.

Stugotz (49:45)

Mikey, it just dawned on me. I never heard that tape before. And he's right. Once you put someone's name on a stadium, you can't take the name off the stadium.

Dan Le Batard (49:54)

That goes. That goes in our next book.

Stugotz (49:56)

Oh, yes, yes, our next book. Yeah, I can't wait. The 20 biggest myths about college Football. And then we have a second house, right?

Dan Le Batard (50:07)

The imposing will of 110,000 fans at Michigan's quietest. 110,000 people you've ever heard in your life. Michigan Stadium.

Stugotz (50:15)

I have Stanzig writing it already. Don't worry about it. We're good. Okay, I'll start.

Dan Le Batard (50:19)

I'll start on it in Turks and Caicos after I finish reading your book on the beach in a couple of weeks.

Stugotz (50:24)

Bear, we love you. Thank you. I'm gonna see you Wednesday at 5:15 for dinner.

Dan Le Batard (50:31)

By the way, we're going to Denny's. I didn't tell you that?

Stugotz (50:33)

Okay, I will have just finished up lunch, but.

Dan Le Batard (50:37)

No pressure.

Stugotz (50:38)

I'll try to make it light. And we look forward to having you on later in the week. I want to know. This is what I want to know. If we have you on again towards the end of the week, if anything you said here today has changed by the time we get to Friday, let's say. Okay.

Dan Le Batard (50:52)

I hope not, but it might.

Stugotz (50:54)

We'll see. We'll find out together. All right, Bear, good luck to you on the pre game show. I'll see you in New Orleans. And I look forward very much to seeing you, buddy. It's been a long time.

Dan Le Batard (51:03)

Thanks, bud. Appreciate you.

Stugotz (51:04)

You got it, man. Thank you for doing this. Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet? Yeah, sold it to Carvana. Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy. The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest, over 36 months. Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient. Just like that. Yeah.

Chris Felica (51:28)

No hassle?

Stugotz (51:29)

None. That is super convenient. Sell your car to Carvana and swap Hassle for convenience. Pick up. These may apply. All right, so I do a thing called Weekend Observations. Demario Davis with us here at super bowl week. It's Radio Row. We will get to what he's doing on behalf of Ashley here in just a second. But I was watching a game and Tom Brady. I do a thing called Weekend Observations where I just write down a bunch of sports observations in my Notes. We try to make it funny and entertaining. And here's what I wrote down. This was Tom Brady, okay? No one wraps up a ball carrier like demario Davis.

Demario Davis (52:17)

It's my job, man. I gotta get him down, dog. I gotta get him down.

Stugotz (52:20)

But do you agree there is no one that wraps up a ball carrier like demario.

Demario Davis (52:25)

First of all, you gotta put an epic pause on that. Yes, I think, man, I do take a lot of pride in tackling.

Stugotz (52:32)

And.

Demario Davis (52:32)

And what a lot of people don't know is I didn't play defense, really, until my senior year in high school.

Stugotz (52:39)

Really?

Demario Davis (52:40)

Yeah. I was. I thought I was gonna be a receiver. I knew I was going to make it to the pros. That was my goal, Right. I'm gonna make it the pros, but I thought I was.

Stugotz (52:46)

When did you know you were going to make it to the pros?

Demario Davis (52:49)

I would. I really knew when I got to college, but.

Stugotz (52:52)

Okay.

Demario Davis (52:52)

When I said it in fourth grade, the first time I said it, wow. I was like, I'm going to NFL. I meant it.

Stugotz (52:57)

You spoke it into.

Demario Davis (52:59)

It was never like, you know, I hear teachers talking. You got. You can't just have a plan A. You need to have a plan B.

Stugotz (53:04)

Right?

Demario Davis (53:04)

I'm like, man, I'm gonna have a plan for my plan A.

Stugotz (53:07)

Right.

Demario Davis (53:07)

You know, and that's my mindset. But so I played receiver, and I had a coach, he brought me over the defense, and he showed me how to tackle. Coach McCann. Shout out to Coach McCann. He taught me how to tackle, and it was a shoulder tackle. And I still use the form that he showed me to this day. You got people who tackle with their face, got spear. You got guys who do, like, a little sling tackle. You got people who cut tackle. But I use a shoulder tackle, and this has been effective.

Stugotz (53:31)

Wow. I cannot believe you said I'm. You set out. So you said at an early age, I'm going to be an NFL football player. And then you would not stop until you achieve that goal. That's incredible.

Demario Davis (53:40)

I mean, at that age, you don't know what you're really declaring.

Stugotz (53:45)

Right.

Demario Davis (53:45)

All I know is I'm a dogmatic person. My kids are like this. I got six kids. My son and one of my daughters are like this. Like, when their mind is set on something, even as their mom and dad, we can't sway them.

Stugotz (53:55)

Wow.

Demario Davis (53:56)

We got to figure out a way to. To. To redirect them.

Stugotz (53:59)

Right?

Demario Davis (53:59)

It's like. And I'm like that. So when I said, you know, my uncle asked Me? What do you want to be? I'm like, I want to go to the NFL. We had just watched a playoff football game on tv. The whole family was watching.

Stugotz (54:08)

Sure.

Demario Davis (54:09)

I'm like, I want to be my whole family sitting around TV watching me.

Stugotz (54:12)

Right.

Demario Davis (54:12)

And I was like, I'm going to the NFL.

Stugotz (54:14)

Yeah.

Demario Davis (54:14)

I meant it. And everything was. I mean, I started practicing doing my autograph when I was, like, in the sixth grade.

Stugotz (54:21)

Really? No.

Demario Davis (54:21)

And it's like, I use the autograph that I. I practice like, a thousand different ones, and I was like, oh, that's the one I'm gonna use.

Stugotz (54:26)

Right.

Demario Davis (54:27)

That's the same one I do to this day.

Stugotz (54:28)

That's pretty incredible. Are you having fun here in New Orleans?

Demario Davis (54:31)

Oh, man. Listen, where else would you rather be? It's a great city, and it's an amazing city. It's one of the most unique cities right. In the country. Yeah, it's. It's great for, like, weeks.

Stugotz (54:41)

Yeah.

Demario Davis (54:42)

So come get your dose, and then you go. Go on where you got to go.

Stugotz (54:45)

Right. Get it in small doses, you're saying? Yeah, right.

Demario Davis (54:47)

I mean, it's so much to take in.

Stugotz (54:49)

I'll gain too much weight if I stay here too long, man.

Demario Davis (54:51)

Man, the food is unbelievable. Everybody I talk to is like, what they're looking forward to is the eating.

Stugotz (54:55)

Right.

Demario Davis (54:56)

Man, so much culture here. It's Mardi Gras week.

Stugotz (54:59)

Yes.

Demario Davis (54:59)

It's festival season. It's kicking in, man. Listen, it's an amazing time, and people are just, you know, getting here open Tonight was great last night.

Stugotz (55:07)

Right.

Demario Davis (55:08)

You just can tell the energy is going to be crazy. Listen, this game is about to be phenomenal. Yeah, that's. That's what, you know, it's a lot of games that, you know, super bowl could go any kind of way.

Stugotz (55:19)

You sure?

Demario Davis (55:20)

You might get an epic super bowl, like. Like ravens and 49ers. Last time it was in New Orleans. Or you might get when Patriots played the Rams. Nobody remembers that game.

Stugotz (55:27)

Right.

Demario Davis (55:28)

And yeah, you're right. I think this is going to be an epic game. You got two phenomenal quarterbacks. I mean, I'm looking at those guys when they came in open tonight and they on the stage together, they doing the high fives and. And doing all that, but you looked in the eyes, man. You saw two killers.

Stugotz (55:41)

Yeah.

Demario Davis (55:42)

And this. This game is about to be good, man.

Stugotz (55:44)

Well, it was great the last time they played, right? Oh, yeah.

Demario Davis (55:46)

It was a phenomenal game.

Stugotz (55:47)

Right.

Demario Davis (55:48)

Went down to the end. You know, Mahomes proved his greatness once again.

Stugotz (55:52)

Right.

Demario Davis (55:52)

But I think that sat in the back of Jalen hurts mind and you know, A.J. brown, them guys, they haven't forgot.

Stugotz (56:00)

Yeah.

Demario Davis (56:00)

And now they got Saquon. They coming to town, so.

Stugotz (56:03)

Well, they have the thing that can keep. That can keep Patrick Mahomes off the field and that take one in a running game, right? Yeah, yeah. Right.

Demario Davis (56:08)

I mean, you know, when you're playing the Chiefs, it's really one thing. Keep. Keep Mahomes and Andy Reid off the field at the end of the game, right?

Stugotz (56:16)

Yes.

Demario Davis (56:16)

I think. I think last year, the super bowl, we knew what was gonna happen. Even though they were backed up against the wall. I mean, I almost had the ball at the end.

Stugotz (56:23)

Yeah.

Demario Davis (56:23)

And it was like, yeah, you go ahead and cancel Christmas. And the way he went down the field was so epic.

Stugotz (56:27)

Yes.

Demario Davis (56:28)

It was like watching poetry in motion.

Stugotz (56:30)

Because you knew he was gonna do it. It's just a matter of watching it, watching it play out. Right.

Demario Davis (56:34)

Listen. Now, what I will tell you is.

Stugotz (56:36)

I think people be okay with Andy Reid on the field, by the way, as opposed to Patrick. That's his machine.

Demario Davis (56:41)

Let's not get. Let's not forget who's behind it.

Stugotz (56:43)

Right.

Demario Davis (56:44)

Having a great offensive mind at the end of the game.

Stugotz (56:46)

Right.

Demario Davis (56:46)

You know, you got to have a general that's on the field doing it, but you got to have a great play caller and they got to be in sync. But I tell you what, the Eagles have, that can pose a threat.

Stugotz (56:55)

Okay.

Demario Davis (56:56)

That I think that the. The 49ers might have not had at that moment. You need somebody that can make that game changing sack.

Stugotz (57:04)

Right.

Demario Davis (57:04)

You remember when Aaron Donald was in the super bowl, he got that big sack at the end of game. What? The only thing that can stop a quarterback like Mahomes, that's. That's on that Tom Brady level. If he. If he hasn't quite got to it, he's right there knocking at the door.

Stugotz (57:16)

Right.

Demario Davis (57:17)

They're going down the field. They already know where they're going with the ball. When they get to the line of scrimmage.

Stugotz (57:21)

Sure.

Demario Davis (57:21)

And everybody knows it's really just like, don't drop the pass.

Stugotz (57:24)

Right.

Demario Davis (57:25)

He's going to get the ball to the right guy, gonna make the right decision all the way down the field. The only person that can be affected. This is why the most important defensive position is a pass rusher. Somebody got to be able to get to him inside of three seconds.

Stugotz (57:36)

Right.

Demario Davis (57:36)

And I think like the guy who's made so many of these type of epic sacks is Brandon Graham.

Stugotz (57:42)

Yeah. That's what he does. Right.

Demario Davis (57:44)

He's always making that phenomenal sack. So if. If we get to the last drive of the game and Mahomes is driving down and Brandon Graham gets a sack Porsche, I'm gonna be like, demario Davis called this.

Stugotz (57:53)

I'm gonna say that. And. And I like that because you're saying for the first time, Mahomes won't get it done. You're saying. You're saying.

Demario Davis (58:00)

I'm not saying that. I am not saying that. You are not going to protect me with that. I just said don't be shocked if that happens.

Stugotz (58:05)

Do you want me to ask you again? At the end, you say Mahomes is going to get it done, and then. But that way you have all sides covered. You know what I'm saying? You can't be wrong.

Demario Davis (58:11)

I just said I wouldn't be surprised that happened.

Stugotz (58:13)

No, I know, but.

Demario Davis (58:14)

But for me, I think if I had to make a pick, I'm saying three Pete is going to happen.

Stugotz (58:18)

Okay. Which defense do you trust the most, though? Because defensive lineman after quarterback, the D lineman, are the best players on the field in the Super Bowl.

Demario Davis (58:26)

Yes. The defense I trust the most. Oh, man.

Stugotz (58:29)

They're both good. Man.

Demario Davis (58:30)

They're both really good. Number one pass defense. That's tough.

Stugotz (58:33)

I know.

Demario Davis (58:34)

With some defensive lineman that can get it done.

Stugotz (58:37)

Yeah. And Spags on the other.

Demario Davis (58:39)

Listen, that corner blitz.

Stugotz (58:41)

Yes.

Demario Davis (58:42)

On Josh Allen.

Stugotz (58:43)

Yes.

Demario Davis (58:43)

Oh, my gosh. Nobody saw that coming.

Stugotz (58:45)

Can you explain that? Can you? Because you're marveling at something I don't think we know. I. We talk about this all the time.

Demario Davis (58:51)

Yeah.

Stugotz (58:52)

We have no idea what we're watching. So can you explain why that was so like. Even to someone like. Like you who's played the game your entire life.

Demario Davis (59:00)

Yes.

Stugotz (59:00)

Why was that so surprising?

Demario Davis (59:01)

Yes. Because when the offensive line kind of comes out and they're looking. They pretty much have numbered where the blitz can come from.

Stugotz (59:07)

Okay.

Demario Davis (59:07)

And there's so many guys. And so it can be, you know, kind of your four defensive linemen or your three linebackers or the two linebackers in a nickel. And that's most time who you're watching. If it's the safety start moving, which is the guys who are on the back. If they start rotating, it's one of them blitzing.

Stugotz (59:20)

Okay.

Demario Davis (59:21)

Very rarely do you think that the corner is coming.

Stugotz (59:25)

Right.

Demario Davis (59:25)

And so if you've shown that team's kind of aware of it, but it's just hard to pick up and it has to be called at the right time. That's what they did. It was like. Because it's so risky, if you blitz the corner.

Stugotz (59:36)

Yes.

Demario Davis (59:36)

You're almost giving up a first down because it's easy. It's hard to hide that the corner is blissing without rotating the safety over there.

Stugotz (59:43)

Sure.

Demario Davis (59:43)

So it's like 10 yards of grass that he can just throw right to and get the first down.

Stugotz (59:47)

So they saved it for that time.

Demario Davis (59:48)

They saved it for the right time. Quarterback missed it and he almost scrambled. Scrambled right into the blitz.

Stugotz (59:52)

I know. So you're telling me Josh Allen had no idea that was coming?

Demario Davis (59:55)

He, he. No, he didn't know it was.

Stugotz (59:56)

That's amazing.

Demario Davis (59:57)

He would have got to a different play.

Stugotz (59:58)

Wow.

Demario Davis (59:59)

Got to a different place. He missed it.

Stugotz (60:01)

Tell us what. That's incredible. Thank you for breaking that down. Because, you know, as fans, we watch football, Right. We're just watching the quarterbacks. We don't know what's going on inside the trenches.

Demario Davis (60:09)

You know, I mean that's what, that's what a quarterback has to be able to diagnose.

Stugotz (60:12)

Right.

Demario Davis (60:12)

Like when you talk about the hardest position to play.

Stugotz (60:14)

Yeah.

Demario Davis (60:14)

I don't want to just say Josh Allen missed it. It looks like he missed it. But they have to diagnose all that.

Stugotz (60:19)

Right.

Demario Davis (60:19)

To know exactly where they're going to go with the ball. Get the team to the perfect play call. That's what, when you talk about like the go to doing, that's what Tom Brady would do. He would be able to look at the defense and know exactly what they were in and get the team to the. The play that was going to give them the. The optimal chance of success.

Stugotz (60:34)

Preparation.

Demario Davis (60:35)

Yeah.

Stugotz (60:35)

Film doesn't lie. Right. Film tells you everything you need to know. Tell us what you're doing on behalf of Ashley. You're doing great things.

Demario Davis (60:40)

Oh, my gosh.

Stugotz (60:41)

Listen, you're a good man, I gotta tell you. Oh, man.

Demario Davis (60:43)

I'm just a man trying to do his part.

Stugotz (60:45)

Well. You're a well dressed man trying to do his part well, thank you, man. Thank you, man.

Demario Davis (60:49)

Shout out to my wife. She helps me with the threads. Man. Ashley is awesome, man. They care so much about our country and they. So they have initials going all over, but they have a deep connection to New Orleans and want to help people and so they partner with us pretty much throughout the whole season. For my hundred start, which. Which happened this season, my hundred start in New Orleans.

Stugotz (61:10)

Amazing.

Demario Davis (61:11)

They partnered with us to do 100 beds for the Covenant House, which is A shelter for. For youth. The only, the only shelter in. In this region for. For young people. So they're doing amazing things. So we partnered with Covenant House many times over holiday events, but we got a chance to donate a hundred beds to that place. Man, that meant so much to him. Just imagine, you know, a young person having their own place, you know, and it feeling safe and building and being a nice new bed.

Stugotz (61:38)

Yeah.

Demario Davis (61:39)

So that was great.

Dan Le Batard (61:40)

We.

Demario Davis (61:40)

We remodeled a house. This amazing lady, she has a son that's autistic. And, man, she does so much. You know, life has a lot of adversity, but she's just taking it and blessing people. She's an amazing singer. Amazing. Does. Does hair in the city. Just helps so many different people. So we got a chance to remodel her whole house with Ashley Furniture. They have been great, man, and it's, it's, it's. It's great to see them connected to the community and doing work with for people and changing their lives. And so it's been great. They've been a phenomenal partner.

Stugotz (62:16)

It's great to see the pride you have when you're, when you're telling those stories.

Demario Davis (62:19)

Yeah. I mean, it's real work. And we live in a world that's moving so fast, and a lot of things are happening.

Stugotz (62:28)

Yeah.

Demario Davis (62:28)

But, man, don't forget there's people around you.

Stugotz (62:30)

Right.

Demario Davis (62:31)

And everybody's going through something and everybody could use something.

Stugotz (62:35)

Right.

Demario Davis (62:36)

And so you have something that can help somebody, and somebody has something that can help you, and that's what interconnects our world. So.

Stugotz (62:44)

And may they understand that you surprised the nurse. Right. New Year's Eve. Yes.

Demario Davis (62:49)

And she actually done so much that you forget. You forget. And so being able to surprise a first responder, man, the tragedy.

Stugotz (62:56)

This is one of the coolest things I've ever. Go ahead, tell the story. But it's one of the great things I've heard, man.

Demario Davis (63:00)

Listen. Tragic what happened on the 1st, man, you don't get that time back, you know, that's something that has marked us. This is such a resilient city. And to, to everyone that was on the scene, you know, our, our fire department, our police department, first responders, it took, Took everybody. And you imagine what's happening. Everybody's realist, people that have to be on point and times like that. So we got a chance to bless a nurse who's one of the first responders who's having to navigate that, that, that tragic moment. And we were able to give her two super bowl tickets, you know, courtesy of partnership with Ashley.

Stugotz (63:38)

Smile on your face, man.

Demario Davis (63:39)

Yeah, man. That was awesome. Yeah, awesome.

Stugotz (63:41)

You're awesome, man.

Demario Davis (63:41)

Oh, man. Praise Jesus.

Stugotz (63:42)

It's your super. It's your super bowl week, man. Enjoy the hell out.

Chris Felica (63:45)

You're hosting.

Stugotz (63:46)

You're the host. You know that, right? Everyone asking you for, hey, where am I going to dinner? Where do I go? I need tickets. They're coming to you, right?

Demario Davis (63:53)

See, that's the great thing about this city, man. It's a festive season right now. So it's parties everywhere. It's parade season, so the festivities high. You can't pick a wrong place to go. Everybody's talking about the food. It's awesome. So it's great to just welcome the world to our city.

Stugotz (64:10)

All right. Doing great work with Ashley. Also, check out his foundation. Devoted dreamers. He's also the best dressed man here on Radio Row. Tell your wife she did a phenomenal job.

Demario Davis (64:19)

Hey, I appreciate you, man. It's a blast. Blessing to you.

Stugotz (64:21)

All right. Appreciate you, man. Thank you, D'Amaro.

Demario Davis (64:23)

Yes, sir.

Stugotz (64:23)

Okay, man.

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Stugotz (65:46)

Nate Tice is with us. He's the host of Football 301 on Yahoo. Sports and they're recording on the Toyota Land Cruiser set. That sounds pretty cool. But you are. How old are you?

Chris Felica (65:57)

35.

Stugotz (65:58)

You cannot give yourself a current curfew super bowl week when you're 35.

Chris Felica (66:02)

I had to, man.

Stugotz (66:03)

You do that when you're my age, which is 50.

Chris Felica (66:06)

Better days are behind me. I, yeah, I, I used to be a contender.

Stugotz (66:10)

Right.

Chris Felica (66:10)

Especially at the bar. No, but that's. That's kind of what I had to do. I was like, oh, I looked at my schedule. I was like, huh. I don't know if I could do this with a headache.

Stugotz (66:17)

Right.

Chris Felica (66:18)

I, I love the city. I, I. My uncle played for The Saints for 10 years, so I used to go to the Manning Academy here in Louisiana, so I used to come every year in New Orleans in January. And so, like, it's kind of fun actually doing it for work now.

Stugotz (66:30)

And yes.

Chris Felica (66:31)

Every time I'm here, I'm like, oh, yeah, City rocks right here are really nice and cool and fun. So. Yeah, loving it so far.

Stugotz (66:36)

Yeah, it's a great city. It really is. It's a great. It's a great big event city.

Chris Felica (66:39)

It is.

Stugotz (66:40)

It's a walking, walking city.

Dan Le Batard (66:41)

Yeah, that's.

Stugotz (66:42)

That's the big thing.

Chris Felica (66:42)

That's kind of, you know, I don't know if you've been to the combine in Indy. That's like, that's why I never think they'll move it.

Stugotz (66:47)

Right.

Chris Felica (66:48)

Everything is, like, three blocks from each other.

Stugotz (66:50)

Yes.

Chris Felica (66:50)

Bars included, restaurants, but just, like, where the facilities are.

Stugotz (66:53)

Yes.

Chris Felica (66:53)

And that's just such an underrated. No one wants to get in the car for five to ten minutes, do everything. So I think that's what's great about this.

Stugotz (66:59)

So I'm glad you brought up the combine, because I tell LeBatard all the time that if you just walk into St. Elmo's during combine week, you'll hear everything you need to hear.

Chris Felica (67:08)

That, that and prime 47.

Stugotz (67:10)

Oh, really? Which is a new spot.

Chris Felica (67:12)

No, it's been around.

Stugotz (67:13)

Okay.

Chris Felica (67:13)

It's just that time doesn't exist in prime 47.

Stugotz (67:16)

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

Chris Felica (67:17)

It's. It's the same lighting.

Stugotz (67:18)

Next thing you know.

Chris Felica (67:19)

Yeah. Same lighting no matter what.

Stugotz (67:21)

Right.

Chris Felica (67:21)

And the thing that happens, you know, during the combine is just a lot of guys, a lot of coaches and personnel guys, they're interviewing till 11pm so, like, really, the networking, quote unquote, the convention part of the combine, it's like, starts at midnight.

Stugotz (67:34)

Yeah.

Chris Felica (67:34)

It's like, not even just drinking wise. It's just like, people just finally are stepping out and actually can like hang out and stuff. So it's kind of a surreal thing where it's like, all right, 11 o'clock. Guess I'll start out. You know, I feel like I'm in New York or Miami, actually.

Stugotz (67:45)

Yeah, yeah, right. That's past your curfew, though.

Dan Le Batard (67:49)

I know.

Chris Felica (67:49)

I hang out longer in Indy than I do in New Orleans.

Stugotz (67:52)

Yeah, that's how you're supposed to do it, right? The places you shouldn't be.

Chris Felica (67:56)

Yeah, I know, I know. And I live in Vegas too, and I'm acting like I'm just like, yeah, don't even, can't even handle this.

Stugotz (68:01)

So Vegas, for me, that was a nightmare, like in terms of a Super Bowl.

Chris Felica (68:03)

Now I did meet you there and I was surprised. Okay, you did.

Stugotz (68:07)

All right.

Chris Felica (68:07)

I was surprised.

Stugotz (68:08)

No, no, I remembered. Yes, yes. I normally don't, to be honest with you.

Chris Felica (68:14)

No, I. No, that's the thing is I, I saw, I felt bad for people. People there, cuz you could tell everyone's excited. Vegas, okay.

Stugotz (68:20)

Yes.

Chris Felica (68:20)

And then after like day four and you guys had some crazy weather too, live shows and stuff, it was freezing.

Stugotz (68:25)

It was freezing.

Chris Felica (68:26)

Yeah. And like day four, I got to go home every night. Every day. I just saw everybody wear, worn out. It's just being in those casinos, it's like the little city states and you can't get out.

Stugotz (68:37)

Well, and not only that, it was like to get like once you got to the hotel, once you got to the media center, like to the front doors, you're still outside. You were just starting your trip. It took like 30 minutes from that point just to get into the media.

Chris Felica (68:51)

Everything.

Stugotz (68:51)

It took me two seconds today.

Chris Felica (68:52)

Yeah, I know, that's so great. My hotel's two blocks away.

Stugotz (68:55)

I know, it's pretty awesome. Tell us about the Football 301 on, on Yahoo Sports.

Chris Felica (69:00)

So we got Charles McDonald, who I know has been.

Stugotz (69:03)

Yeah. Friend of the show.

Chris Felica (69:03)

Yeah, friend of the show. So him, him and I and Matt Harmon, who does reception perception. His background's a lot more in fantasy, but really we talk about Texas. No scheme stuff. Really a lot of deep dive stuff. Charles helps me kind of come out my little, my little layer sometimes actually I gotta be a normal person about some of it. But really just like, there's a lot of like what happened when happened. We're really trying to go, why? How? I think a lot of people, like when they can just point out one thing to their buddy at the bar, you go like, hey, hey, this linebacker's pretty Good. Or, hey, they, like, run this coverage or something of that sort.

Stugotz (69:35)

Right.

Chris Felica (69:35)

My background, I kind of done every. Everything in football. Played, coach, scouted. I was a ball boy. I think with just all that has kind of led me to kind of go like, oh, maybe this. I was around a lot of smarter people through osmosis. I go, maybe look out for this. Maybe look for this guard that's weak against this blitz. And I think that's kind of like a nice angle for us, and it's a lot of fun to kind of dive into.

Stugotz (69:53)

So I think it's interesting because Dan and I say every week. And I just had this experience with Demario Davis, who explained to me why that corner blitz that Spags put on Josh Allen, he, like, actually took me through it as to why it was so special and how we actually set it up, because Dan and I have been talking about this for years. We don't know what we're watching on Sundays a lot. And that's. Right.

Chris Felica (70:15)

And that's what people think. The all 22, you know, the big. You know, the big X's and those stuff. You know that where you can see all the players on there.

Stugotz (70:21)

Right.

Chris Felica (70:21)

People think that's like, oh, you guys don't know what you're looking at and stuff. But you have to rewind it a million times because, like, you don't always see what the guard is doing from the sideline angle. You don't see downfield what the safety is doing. And that's what. That play was brilliant. I mean, we had 500 backlash breakdowns on that play and everything. But that's what's really cool, especially with blitz stuff, is that there's layers to it and there's rule breakers. And that's why I love Spagnola. I was a former offensive guy, but watch him. He breaks rules. And that's what. It's a total F me kind of thing.

Stugotz (70:51)

Right?

Chris Felica (70:51)

And he's able to do it. And you saw, like, that perfect fourth downplay was like, yeah, that's what Spags does to you. He does the. He does the 501 thing.

Stugotz (70:57)

Yes.

Chris Felica (70:57)

That you're not. You are prepared for it, but it would be like a leap of faith to get there for an offense. And that's what's really cool when you start dissecting.

Stugotz (71:03)

He is maybe. And I've had this discussion with him. He and I have become friends, but I've told him, like, I know he wants to maybe be a head coach again. Why leave this quarterback? Why leave this Coach, why leave this situation? There's nothing wrong with being the greatest coordinator that's ever lived. That's right.

Chris Felica (71:20)

And his, his reputation in my mind now, this speaking to this is he went from like a quarter head coach retread. Okay, interesting defense coordinator to now I consider him one of the greatest defense coordinators of all time.

Stugotz (71:31)

Yes.

Chris Felica (71:32)

With some. And I, I truly mean this. I think that some of the game plans, just like Belichick should go to Canton because he's one of the best game plan coordinators. Day. Once the playoffs start, it's so week to week.

Stugotz (71:43)

Right.

Chris Felica (71:43)

Like as far as like all right, that game plan, throw it out. Because we're starting a whole new one.

Stugotz (71:47)

Different team, different game plan.

Chris Felica (71:48)

And now we got all 18 weeks to like look at the previous film as opposed to maybe four in the middle of the season.

Stugotz (71:53)

Right.

Chris Felica (71:53)

Him and Andy Reid on the opposite side are the best. Like they are the. And now they have a bye week. So that's how I look at it too. It's like, all right, you probably paid pretty well too.

Stugotz (72:01)

Yeah.

Chris Felica (72:01)

You know, and everybody now his respect level has gone through the roof.

Stugotz (72:04)

Right. So you're saying Andy and Bill are the coaches who are, who are the best at getting their teams prepared week to week.

Dan Le Batard (72:11)

It's.

Chris Felica (72:11)

It's not just week to week, it's once we hit playoff time.

Stugotz (72:14)

Yes.

Chris Felica (72:14)

Those hyper specific game plans.

Stugotz (72:16)

Right.

Chris Felica (72:16)

That's the best way to put it. They're the ones that are able to create these one off game plans. The one off plays. That's like, oh, that was. I even come back to two years ago though when these two teams played in the Super Bowl. Remember the kind of back and forth touchdowns and motions and stuff.

Stugotz (72:29)

Yeah.

Chris Felica (72:29)

Because it wasn't. Andy Reid was able to watch every Eagles game where the coaches were from all the whole regular season. And they took those plays which are popular, but they took it from the Jaguars doing against the Eagles and like, like week four. And that's the difference is they put in the work and go, oh, that's interesting. We're gonna put it in now. That's what the extra by week does. It gives you the time to do it. So interesting. Yeah. That week to week. I keep saying week to week. I should say that specific playoff game plans. They are the best at it.

Stugotz (72:53)

Who's not doing that?

Chris Felica (72:55)

That's a good question.

Stugotz (72:56)

Yeah, I'm trying to even look like is Sirianni. Do I think Sirianni gets a raw deal like he does?

Chris Felica (73:02)

Right. I mean they keep winning and everything.

Stugotz (73:04)

Well, they've been to two Super Bowls, four years, playoffs, four consecutive years.

Chris Felica (73:08)

I thought one thing underrated aspect with Sirianni was the year before they went on the first super bowl run. So that would been 21, right? He benched himself as a play caller. And usually you'd be like, hahaha. But I thought the humility to go, no, Sten, you got the plays. Yes, I'm gonna bench. Because they were struggling the first four or five weeks, I want to say it was. And then they had a buy, right? And they launched from there. And then they got A.J. brown continued the next year. Steichen's now a head coach.

Stugotz (73:29)

That's not an easy thing with the ego involved in this sport. Think about that. He. He stripped himself of play calling, which is you never.

Chris Felica (73:35)

Usually what you see is the opposite.

Stugotz (73:36)

Correct.

Chris Felica (73:37)

Oh, I'm taking it away from him. He's fine. He's the first one in front of me on fire going, yeah, he's the human meat shield, right? And that's what most. And I always, I kind of look back then. I respect him for that because not a lot of head coaches would do that, especially ones that, you know, finally get their first head coaching job. Like, I'm going to be a play caller. Look at me, I'm the next McVeigh Shanahan, right? So that's one thing where I was like, hey, I mean, there is something to that and there's something to being like, like, I hate the term, but the CEO type that kind of gets everyone organized. And if they're, I mean, they keep winning games, man.

Stugotz (74:05)

So I mean, listen, Philly should be embracing him. He is Philly.

Dan Le Batard (74:10)

I mean, that should be the last.

Chris Felica (74:11)

Name using a bunch of vowels in it.

Stugotz (74:14)

Philly should want him to coach that team forever, man.

Chris Felica (74:16)

Just go watch.

Stugotz (74:17)

Listen, I, I said this to Ler. He got mad at me. But I said, if Sirianni wins this super bowl, he is the greatest Eagles coach in Eagles history.

Chris Felica (74:25)

The other one got ran out. Like Doug Andy Reed got ran out.

Stugotz (74:28)

I know, I know Sirianni can still win something.

Chris Felica (74:31)

Going to two and win a one is a lot better than a lot of other coaches.

Dan Le Batard (74:34)

I know.

Chris Felica (74:34)

Even if you end up as the Larry Coker of NFL coaches, it's not the worst.

Stugotz (74:38)

It's not the worst thing. Not. Listen, Larry Coker had the greatest start, I think, in college football history.

Chris Felica (74:43)

And that's kind of my, that's how I feel about him a little bit too. It's like, hey, yeah, he's taking over a Ferrari.

Stugotz (74:48)

Right.

Chris Felica (74:48)

But he's keeping it on the road.

Stugotz (74:50)

Yeah.

Chris Felica (74:50)

And I know there's every time they lose it's the funniest little like you know, everybody starts dropping rumors and gossip and everything. But I haven't gotten a lot of that lately because I think things have been pretty good in Philly.

Stugotz (74:59)

How about Fangs in terms of getting his team ready because this is such, it's such a fascinating super bowl where you have Mahomes, you have Jaylen Herz, you have all this offensive talent. Right. But the defenses are strong, the coordinators are great. It could be a low scoring game.

Chris Felica (75:12)

That's what I think it's going to be a lot of long drives too. Like it's, it's both of these defenses are top five and allowing exposure of plays and the fact that they don't allow them, I should say.

Stugotz (75:22)

Right.

Chris Felica (75:23)

So. And I think that they're very. You can be methodical against both of them. I, I think the Rams game was interesting against this Eagles defense where they're really doing a lot of at you runs around concept called duo. But what it is is just like vertical just is power basically without anyone pulling. And you can do that you if you're willing to live a 4 or 56 yard gains. Yeah. And the Chiefs are able to do that.

Stugotz (75:44)

Right.

Chris Felica (75:44)

That's what they want to do. They don't. They're not very excited, explosive anyways but they're hyper efficient.

Stugotz (75:48)

Right.

Chris Felica (75:48)

So I think that's a lot of long drives. I think I the line I've been kind of giving. I think this is gonna be the shortest super bowl like as far.

Stugotz (75:54)

I agree.

Chris Felica (75:54)

Yeah. Even with the halftime show.

Stugotz (75:56)

Well, because now you have. Listen, it was a great game two years ago, but now you have Saquon and to Sirianni's credit and Howie Roseman's credit to be able to get Saquon from the Giants, which is ludicrous and absurd. But you now have the guy. If he doesn't break one for 80 you could have those 11 play 10 minute drives. That the most important thing about them. We've kept Mahomes off the field.

Chris Felica (76:16)

That's it.

Stugotz (76:17)

That's it.

Chris Felica (76:17)

Both teams want to do that, right? The Chiefs want to go. Well, we don't want them hitting big play after big correct on us. So yeah, I, I am really curious. Like my eyes are going to Spags versus Jalen hurts and the Eagles offensive line. It really is because Spags is one of the best. Like he's one of the biggest blitzers, but he runs a lot of zone blitzes, and that's a difference than man coverage blitzes. And Jalen Hurts has been better against the blitz, but if you remember last year in the playoffs, Todd Bowles and the Bucks, they kind of exposed him.

Stugotz (76:41)

A little bit Y.

Chris Felica (76:42)

And he's not good against his own blitzes, though, because it's just a little more confusing, it's a little more exotic. So that's one thing where it's like, all right, if they get an explosive play off of it, that's gonna decide the game. But I think Spag's gonna try and bait him into that. One turnover. That could totally swing the game.

Stugotz (76:55)

Right? X's and O's are important, man. Just so you know. They are like. Like, let me not our car over there. Like, I know. You know, I know you want to try to. To drag out your personality and all that. No, we need X's and O's. Okay? Let me be the jackass. You give us X's and O's.

Chris Felica (77:09)

I know. I'm fine with that. This is my. This is more of my language. So we're good.

Stugotz (77:12)

No, I love the X's and O's, though. I really do. Because, again, we don't know what we're watching.

Chris Felica (77:16)

Yeah. So I'll. I'll tell you one little. Okay. One little inside baseball player.

Stugotz (77:19)

Okay.

Chris Felica (77:20)

All right. It's the coverage called palms, and it's a quarters coverage. So too high shell and on it. It's basically a defense trying to run Cover 2 and Cover 4 at the same time.

Stugotz (77:28)

Right.

Chris Felica (77:28)

And what you're trying to do is bait the quarterback into throwing to the slot, like a quick out route, and thinking that you can just have nice open space over there. John Hurts loves throwing those.

Stugotz (77:37)

Right.

Chris Felica (77:38)

The Chiefs are one of the best defenses at running this, so they'll blitz. Quarterback will think he's hot, and there's the corner who looks like he's running with the outside receiver. He'll turn around and be there to pick off or blow up the. Blow up the slot.

Stugotz (77:49)

Right.

Chris Felica (77:50)

Or the tight end. That's. I feel like that kind of play is going to be the one that decides the game. It's what the Chief do. It also baits Hertz into throwing what he wants to throw.

Stugotz (77:58)

Right.

Chris Felica (77:59)

But this is where I love this stuff. Is that okay? I know what you know. What? I know what you know.

Stugotz (78:03)

Right? All right.

Chris Felica (78:04)

Does Kellen Moore go, like, all right, now throw the vertical route. Right.

Stugotz (78:06)

Oh, I like that.

Chris Felica (78:07)

And that's what I. If he does right there. If I see that little hole shot, you know, that little 15 to 20 yarder towards the sideline, I'd be like, oh, the Eagles got some stuff. If I see that pick or that batted a ball or that blow up on a quick out route, that's when I'm like, okay, the Chief's got some stuff.

Stugotz (78:19)

Right?

Chris Felica (78:20)

There's gonna be those little kind of indicators like who's kind of maybe has the mental edge right away.

Stugotz (78:24)

I love it. It seems, maybe I'm wrong here. It seems like you think the Eagles have a. Have a pretty good shot here. I'm.

Chris Felica (78:29)

I'm leaning Chiefs.

Stugotz (78:30)

Are you?

Chris Felica (78:31)

Yeah.

Stugotz (78:32)

You're not going to be surprised if the Eagles win.

Chris Felica (78:33)

No, I'm not. Because they, they. I mean, I, I hate.

Stugotz (78:37)

I'm doing the same thing. By the way. I know top to bottom, the Eagles a better team, but I'm not betting. I'm not betting against this guy. That's right.

Chris Felica (78:43)

And I. And there's nothing where I look at with this Chiefs team where I'm like, oh, that's a glare during week. Like, everything's solid. You know, they just don't create explosives. But the thing is, Mahomes can be methodical and can nickel and dime you, so. And you got Andy Reid on a bye week and you got Steve Spagnol on a pie week. Yeah. It's just. I never go against it, but I do. Eagles can run the ball, stop the run, create explosive play, Stop explosive plays. That's a really good formula too.

Stugotz (79:04)

No doubt. How's the Land Cruiser set, by the way?

Dan Le Batard (79:07)

It's good.

Stugotz (79:07)

I'm jealous I don't have a Land Cruiser here. I mean. Oh, it's right here. Oh, my God.

Chris Felica (79:11)

I know, I know. It's like literally, but that's what I said. They literally have X's nose on it.

Dan Le Batard (79:14)

So it's like.

Chris Felica (79:14)

Yeah, I know, I know. So, so good. No, it's great. I know. They're doing a great job, though.

Stugotz (79:19)

Which part of football did you love the most? Was it the ball boy? Was it playing? Was it the coaching? Or is it this? I mean, ball boy is such a great time.

Chris Felica (79:28)

I was in high school, middle school, those old Vikings teams with Moss and Culpepper and stuff.

Stugotz (79:32)

Oh, wow.

Chris Felica (79:33)

Yeah. I saw some real.

Nate Tice (79:34)

Oh.

Stugotz (79:35)

Oh, my God.

Chris Felica (79:35)

Yeah.

Stugotz (79:36)

Some of the greatest.

Chris Felica (79:37)

Yeah. Moss lateral stuff.

Stugotz (79:39)

Yeah. Chris Carter just like unhinged, right?

Chris Felica (79:42)

Yes. Yeah. Oh, man.

Stugotz (79:43)

Never shutting up. Yeah, I said, I said that respectfully. He was just wired that way.

Chris Felica (79:48)

Well, that's also a warp. My line of thinking is that I watch Randy Moss, Dante Culpepper, Chris Carter, John Randall, Kevin Williams, all these guys. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Every receiver is like Randy Moss.

Stugotz (79:58)

Yeah, right?

Chris Felica (79:59)

And then I've never seen someone near that ever in my life.

Stugotz (80:02)

Not even close.

Chris Felica (80:03)

Not even close. It's like, oh, there's a lot more Nate Burleson's than Randy Moss.

Dan Le Batard (80:06)

Process.

Chris Felica (80:06)

I love Nate, too.

Stugotz (80:07)

There's a lot more Chris Carters. And I say that respectfully.

Chris Felica (80:12)

Two shots.

Stugotz (80:14)

No, he's done nothing to me. Chris Carter, he doesn't deserve it.

Chris Felica (80:17)

No, but being a. Being a ball boy was. I mean, even though I was making like 20 bucks a week, it was. It was invaluable.

Stugotz (80:22)

Right?

Chris Felica (80:22)

I mean, I remember the Vic play where two guys ran into each other. And the Vikings, I was there for that one. Like, so I saw a lot of kind of cool moments. Saw Brett Favre play five feet for me. Paid Manning.

Stugotz (80:31)

Amazing.

Chris Felica (80:32)

That probably is the best. And because maybe I was also 16.

Stugotz (80:34)

That. Right. And it comes with zero expectations too. Right? Just get the ball. Just get the ball there.

Chris Felica (80:38)

Throw it on your hand. Make sure it spirals. You can't throw overhandle. Refs.

Stugotz (80:42)

Oh, really?

Chris Felica (80:43)

Yeah, they hate it.

Stugotz (80:43)

Wait, what do you mean?

Chris Felica (80:44)

So you. There's a preferred throwing style.

Stugotz (80:46)

Time out. You were throwing balls back into the game, onto the field of play. Two referees, they needed a ball. Yes. And you're telling me you could not throw it overhanded?

Chris Felica (80:54)

Okay. They get mad at you if you throw it over hand.

Stugotz (80:57)

Because.

Chris Felica (80:57)

Because some of them can't catch.

Stugotz (80:58)

Okay.

Chris Felica (80:59)

So you have to throw an underhand throw. And they prefer with a little lob so you can adjust to it and everything like that.

Stugotz (81:04)

Right.

Chris Felica (81:05)

So no, but like. And I was a quarterback, so, like, there's times I was like it. Like, let it rip and hit it. And at one time, a ref actually loved that because it was like a no huddle, two minute situation. Like, thanks for getting the ball out there. And I was like, oh, God, that was gonna be fired. But no, no, but I one time threw it overhand and a ref lectured me.

Stugotz (81:21)

Really?

Chris Felica (81:22)

Not throw it it overhand. He's like, you do not know what my hands are like, who's who?

Stugotz (81:26)

Who was the ref?

Chris Felica (81:26)

I don't know. I know. I wish I know. Well, those guys are retired now too, so. Yeah, I know.

Stugotz (81:32)

But has there been a rat?

Chris Felica (81:34)

It might have been Hockley.

Stugotz (81:34)

Oh, guns. Really? Was. Was there a ref you didn't like. And even though you knew he wanted you to toss it underhanded, you just beamed them right in the face or something like that.

Chris Felica (81:42)

Actually, speaking of Hockley.

Stugotz (81:43)

Oh, really?

Chris Felica (81:44)

No, no. Personally, didn't be. But one thing. If I I want ball, all I.

Stugotz (81:49)

Want is ball boy story from you.

Chris Felica (81:51)

He got got bulky for a reason. He knows he's on tv. One thing with hockey I ever noticed. Always knows. Okay, so there's the orange guy that says TV timeout. Yeah, okay.

Stugotz (82:00)

Right.

Chris Felica (82:00)

Takes the pause.

Stugotz (82:01)

Yes.

Chris Felica (82:01)

Offense will be in a huddle sometimes and everything. A lot of refs just go into the quarterback like, hey, five seconds right then. And then back out of there.

Stugotz (82:08)

Right?

Chris Felica (82:08)

How Coy goes five seconds and just hangs because he knows the camera is going to be when I come back from commercial where they always show the offense breaking the bottle. Yes, there's Hockley always going. And then he goes.

Stugotz (82:22)

Showing off the gun.

Chris Felica (82:23)

Every quarterback in the league knows that. So everyone like, yeah, so I've been on the league. People were kind of busting some balls about us. Make sure I get that extra couple seconds in there.

Stugotz (82:30)

That is it. Right?

Chris Felica (82:33)

Show off the tries.

Stugotz (82:34)

Oh, my God, that is so good. Football 301, Yahoo Sports. They're right next to us here on the Toyota Land Cruiser set. Nate, we appreciate this, man. I got you out of here before your curfew.

Chris Felica (82:45)

Appreciate it.

Stugotz (82:46)

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