GBF- Super Week: Wrapping up Radio Row

Summary

Detailed Summary of GBF- Super Week: Wrapping up Radio Row

Episode Release Date: February 8, 2025

Introduction The episode kicks off with hosts Billy Gill and Mikey A engaging in lively banter about recent casino experiences and Super Bowl preparations. The conversation quickly dives into personal anecdotes and humorous exchanges, setting an energetic tone for the episode.

Casino Chronicles Billy Gill shares a humorous tale about a recent casino visit where he observed others losing money while he refrained from betting. Mikey A counters with his own experience, detailing how he advised a fellow patron to cash out after a series of losses and subsequent minor wins. This segment highlights the hosts' differing approaches to gambling and showcases their camaraderie.

Notable Quote:

• Billy Gill [01:00]: "I have a source who tells me that you spent a good deal of time at a casino in New Orleans and you didn't bet a single penny."
• Mikey A [02:18]: "Person cashes out and says, you know what? I'm going to go. I'm up right now. I'm going to go."

Spotlight on Super Bowl Preparations The discussion seamlessly transitions to Super Bowl preparations, with hosts and guests sharing their excitement and strategies for the upcoming game. They delve into team dynamics, player performances, and coaching strategies, particularly focusing on the Philadelphia Eagles and their coach Nick Sirianni.

Guest Interview: Malcolm Jenkins Malcolm Jenkins joins the conversation, bringing insights from his involvement with the Phillips Auction House's "Game of Art" initiative. He emphasizes the intersection of sports and art, discussing how athletes can leverage their platforms to engage with the art community. Jenkins also touches on his recent ventures into business and empowering fellow athletes through collaborative investments.

Notable Quote:

• Malcolm Jenkins [13:39]: "One being sports and art, and I see no better city to represent that. Like, if you look at the heroes of this city in New Orleans, it's the artists and the athletes, and when those two worlds combine, there's an opportunity to create real change."

Jenkins further elaborates on his passion for photography, inspired by mentors like Larry Fitzgerald and artists like Gordon Parks. He highlights the importance of capturing meaningful moments and the role of art in personal and community development.

Super Bowl Predictions and Team Analysis The conversation intensifies as guests analyze the strengths and weaknesses of the Philadelphia Eagles and their Super Bowl opponents. They debate the impact of key players like Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts, and Patrick Mahomes, evaluating their contributions and predicting potential outcomes of the game.

Notable Quote:

• Victor Cruz [50:22]: "He is going to have the best running back season of all time. He would have broken the record in fewer attempts than Eric Dickerson."
• Billy Gill [55:21]: "It's team versus position. Yep. Greatest guy at the most important position. Sports. Yes."

Broadcasting and Career Transitions Guests share their experiences transitioning from professional sports to broadcasting. Malcolm Jenkins discusses the challenges and rewards of his new role in media, emphasizing the importance of preparation and continuous learning. The hosts commend his seamless transition and dedication to maintaining a strong presence in the sports community.

Notable Quote:

• Malcolm Jenkins [41:14]: "It's about building those relationships and establishing the culture of what Amazon’s going to be and Thursday Night Football is going to be."

Fun and Light-Hearted Segments Throughout the episode, hosts and guests engage in playful interactions, including humorous discussions about fashion, personal hobbies, and quirky anecdotes. Adam Pally's segment on his "fit fluencer" role and interactions with fellow guests adds a fun and relatable dimension to the show.

Notable Quote:

• Adam Pally [65:45]: "I'm a fit fluencer."
• Gerald McCoy [88:19]: "I love it."

Closing Remarks As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the Super Bowl week festivities, the importance of maintaining health and wellness post-NFL careers, and express gratitude towards their guests for sharing their insights and stories. The segment closes with a mix of humor and heartfelt appreciation, leaving listeners engaged and entertained.

Notable Quote:

• Chris Felica [72:32]: "We can create ways of dishes to be able to make them taste a little bit different. And so I'm happy for it."
• Malcolm Jenkins [87:35]: "Thank you, brother."

Conclusion "GBF- Super Week: Wrapping up Radio Row" offers a rich blend of personal stories, expert sports analysis, and engaging conversations with notable guests. The episode successfully captures the excitement of Super Bowl week while providing valuable insights into the lives and careers of retired NFL players. With its dynamic discussions and memorable quotes, this episode serves as an informative and entertaining recap for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Billy Gill]

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. This episode is brought to you by Love Hurts.

[Chris Felica]

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[Billy Gill]

Career, from childhood roles in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and the Goonies to a recent Academy Award win for Everything Everywhere all at Once.

[Chris Felica]

But now Keefe finally stars as a.

[Billy Gill]

Leading man in the film Love Hurts. Love Hurts is the perfect date night movie. Its mix of over the top action comedy and a ton of heart. Love Hurts. Only at theaters February 7th. God bless football. Billy Gill.

[Mikey A]

God bless football. Mikey. Eh?

[Stugots]

God bless football.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Stugots.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you, Mikey A. Billy.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

I have a source who tells me that you spent a good deal of time at a casino in New Orleans and you didn't bet a single penny. Everyone took Chris Felica's bet on Rent.

[Chris Felica]

Hold on.

[Billy Gill]

And they won a ton of money. And Billy just sat there and watched and was laughing when others lost money.

[Mikey A]

I don't know who your source is.

[Billy Gill]

That's diabolical.

[Mikey A]

That's diabolic.

[Billy Gill]

I'm not gonna tell you. I don't reveal my sources. I can't.

[Mikey A]

That's not true. I was not la diabolically as someone was losing money. And I'm assuming I know who the source is because I was walking around the casino with one other person, right? So unless that person has told multiple people, this person probably went and told you directly what was going on. And I was not laughing diabolically as this person lost money. In fact, in fact, I would argue I helped this person walk away with a decent amount of money because this person went and played blackjack and lost all of the money that said person had. Had intended to gamble in four hands, right? Boom, boom, boom. Gone. All the money was gone. Four quick losses, four straight hands. All of the money was gone. Then we were walking around and it was a bit of a who's who last night at the casino. I'm not going to lie.

[Billy Gill]

Every night. Yeah.

[Mikey A]

But like, it. And just like, it's funny because if you're walking around like, and you're here like on Radio Row, everyone has like a big entourage and all this stuff. And like, you can't get in contact with all these people at the casino. Everyone's on the same level for the most part. Right. Unless you're like in the high rollers room, which, by the way, we got a peek into the high rollers room. We saw who was there.

[Billy Gill]

See me.

[Mikey A]

No, you weren't there last night.

[Billy Gill]

I wasn't there last night.

[Mikey A]

You told us that you were going to Eat with a family member.

[Billy Gill]

So I did. My niece. Yes.

[Mikey A]

Okay, anywho. So this person loses four straight hands of blackjack, loses all the money, then sits down at a slot machine right outside of the casino, and within three rolls, nearly no more than triples the amount of money they put into the machine. And I'm like, cash out right now. Like, cash out. Because he went and he lost and lost and then won $9 and then lost and lost and lost. And then you look at it and it's like almost $400 right at that thing. Just goes up from like $80 to like 400. I'm like, cash out right now.

[Billy Gill]

Because that's what you would do. You would cash out and walk the hell out of there, right?

[Mikey A]

No, I probably would have ended up losing it, but because it wasn't my money, I was like, I'm going to be the voice of reason here. I'm like, cash out right now.

[Billy Gill]

Right?

[Mikey A]

Person cashes out and says, you know what? I'm going to go. And I'm up right now. I'm going to go. I'm going to put $80 on red, right? And I was like, okay, well, because.

[Billy Gill]

The bear told us to do that.

[Mikey A]

Person goes over $80 on red. Well, yes, there was other reasons, but multiple people had told this person red. So walks over, puts $80 on red. One spin, boom. Hits doubles of money. I go, cash out right now. Just cash out. Let's just. Let's get out of here. Get out of here. Up like 500 something dollars today. You went in. You started out very poorly. The fact that we're in cash out right now.

[Chris Felica]

Right.

[Billy Gill]

But did you place a single bet while you were there?

[Mikey A]

I didn't. And you know what's funny is I don't think that this person intended.

[Billy Gill]

See what he did there, Mikey?

[Mikey A]

No, it gets. It's worse than you think.

[Billy Gill]

It's.

[Mikey A]

It's 100% worse than you think. John Gruden's over there. It's 100% worse than YOU think. Yeah, Yeah. I don't know if you know he's doing media now.

[Billy Gill]

No, I do know that, but I've just. I don't know.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

So I haven't seen him in a while.

[Mikey A]

Well, he does books. He's everywhere.

[Billy Gill]

It looks good.

[Mikey A]

He's been everywhere this week. Okay. It's worse than you think. It's worse than you think. Because this person went to the casino not intending, I don't think, to gamble, and said, I have cash if you want, and I'M like, okay, yeah, bring some cash, and I'll venmo you. Because, like, I'm going to gamble. I want to get out of the thing. So the money, in part, was taken, I believe, so that I could gamble.

[Billy Gill]

Oh.

[Mikey A]

And then once I got there, I was like, I don't like the social interaction of the gambling. I was like, I need. I was like, I need an empty table.

[Billy Gill]

I just said that to another show earlier this week. I need an empty table, Just me and the dealer, and that's it. Everyone else, get out of my way. Well, the problem is that is my nightmare. I won't sit at an empty table.

[Mikey A]

Well, the problem is. The problem is, is that I don't know what I'm doing, so I don't want to be the guy who is, you know, holding up the table and upsetting people. Coach Prime. What's up? How's it going?

[Billy Gill]

What's up? Dion.

[Mikey A]

That's how you say, we got Dion on this show.

[Billy Gill]

Yep. Super bowl radio. Yeah, we got him. Put him in the montage.

[Mikey A]

And you make sure that you say coach prime, because that's what he wants to be called.

[Billy Gill]

We got burrowed, too.

[Mikey A]

And exactly twice.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, twice.

[Mikey A]

Twice. So, anywho, I. I wasn't feeling it because I knew. He's like, why don't you sit down? Why don't you play blackjack? I'm like, no, because I'm gonna be the person that plays it wrong and upsets the entire table that's playing. Even though, if we're gonna be honest, it was an empty table, and I could very well have easily sat down and played blackjack, but I didn't play blackjack. I'm going to be real with you, okay? I wasn't feeling lucky this week. Okay, between the ankle, you're not feeling well, right?

[Billy Gill]

The angle.

[Deuce McAllister]

Wait a second.

[Stugots]

You're not feeling lucky.

[Billy Gill]

You just got Coach prime on the show.

[Mikey A]

That is true.

[Billy Gill]

Joe Burrow twice.

[Mikey A]

Joe Burrow twice. You got coach Prime. But last night, I wasn't feeling lucky. This wasn't feeling like my week. So I said, you know what? I'm just going to cut my losses. I have the injury. I have the ailment. I have. I'm walking around, Mikey. I'm wearing my glasses. I pack. I rationed. I rationed my contacts so that I would have the exact amount for this trip before I ran out of contacts and had to reorder. And I'm leaving with extra contacts because I had to wear my glasses because of the stye, because When I take off my glasses, I look like I was punched in the eye.

[Billy Gill]

Right?

[Mikey A]

So, yeah, this was. This wasn't.

[Stugots]

For somebody who said they weren't feeling lucky.

[Victor Cruz]

That sounds like a win again in your book.

[Mikey A]

No, it's not a win because I'm walking around looking. Looking like I got punched in the face. So I. I had very few wins on this trip. So I said, you know what? Gambling probably not the best interest. It's just going to add to the losses. I was feeling like a sad boy walking around. So I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna add insult to injury here.

[Billy Gill]

If you don't feel it, I think you made the right decision. If you're not feeling it.

[Mikey A]

I'm feeling it.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Yeah, I understand.

[Mikey A]

Walked around.

[Billy Gill]

Tell me who you said. Come on, tell us who?

[Mikey A]

You.

[Billy Gill]

So who cares?

[Gerald McCoy]

We.

[Mikey A]

Well, I mean, I don't want to.

[Billy Gill]

I like Jason Kelsey. He was there. I know Jason.

[Mikey A]

No, we saw Puka there.

[Billy Gill]

Okay, Puka.

[Mikey A]

High rollers room for Puka. Well, of course. Good luck.

[Billy Gill]

They have bowling in the high rollers room.

[Mikey A]

Maybe it was a high bowler's room. Hey, I don't know why I'm pointing. This is just audio.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, it's audio.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

But you pointed.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. So the high bowlers room was.

[Billy Gill]

There was Jason Kelsey in that high roller room.

[Mikey A]

Jason Kelsey, man of the people. No, Jason Kelsey was walking amongst the. The commoners. Yeah, let's. He likes a crowd following him. Let's be 100%.

[Billy Gill]

And let me tell you, if you're part of the crowd that is watching Jason Kelsey play craps, do me a favor and get a life.

[Mikey A]

It was everyone. It was everyone in the casino. And you know, you know who.

[Billy Gill]

Leave the man alone and get a life.

[Mikey A]

Leave the man alone nothing. He eats that. Oh, he does. Sorry. Like, he does.

[Billy Gill]

I think I saw it at Tahoe. Someone.

[Mikey A]

Someone who like, spent his life as like a somewhat anonymous, like, offensive lineman and now has found all of this fame and fortune. He loves all of the attention. He was commanding the entire casino and he knew it and he loved it. Miles Teller was there and was just like hanging out next to him, like completely incognito. Just standing there next to him the entire time.

[Billy Gill]

Ridiculous.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. Just remember when Miles Teller was going.

[Victor Cruz]

To join us every week to pick games.

[Mikey A]

I do. With goalie.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Go did ask him. He did? Yeah. He had communication with him.

[Mikey A]

Well, he's Golik.

[Billy Gill]

He said no.

[Mikey A]

Well, you know, you know why? You know why he said no?

[Billy Gill]

I gave Golic the number.

[Mikey A]

You know. You know why he said no?

[Billy Gill]

Why?

[Mikey A]

Because Jason Kelsey came around.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

And now he had a new Eagles lineman that he could gravitate towards. I don't know.

[Billy Gill]

It's all company the goal. Like, you're right.

[Mikey A]

I. I tried to warn him about this with Notre Dame. It happened with the Eagles. We saw that coming.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Second Super Bowl. It's definitely, you know.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Mikey A]

I tried to warn about Notre Dame. He didn't want to listen to. Yes.

[Billy Gill]

Go looks. Teams in Philadelphia were some of the best teams to never win a title. So you're right. And that team was legendary. But once they won a Super bowl.

[Mikey A]

Well, now they have new, better teams.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Yeah. No, but Golic went by the wayside. Yeah.

[Mikey A]

And apparently Miles Teller just has a kink for lineman. It's weird. I don't know what's going on. He just likes equals linemen to hang out with. You know who else we saw? We saw Jackson Mahomes there too.

[Billy Gill]

Did you really?

[Mikey A]

Huge. So much bigger than Patrick.

[Billy Gill]

Really?

[Mikey A]

So much bigger than Patrick Jackson. Yes.

[Billy Gill]

Was Raiola there?

[Mikey A]

You know what? Maybe Rayola's brother was there doing something.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, man, I'm. I'm upset I didn't go now, you know, it's fine. Yeah. I mean, Miles Teller, Jason Kelsey.

[Mikey A]

And to be honest with you, like.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, you get a life.

[Mikey A]

I think it was kind of early. Like, because I'm not a. I'm not a late bird.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Mikey A]

You know what I mean? So I think it was early. I'm sure it picked up as we were going. Well, Fences was there later. I'm sure it was getting busier.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, it was getting busier. Yeah, it's picked up here, man. It's going to be hard getting out of here.

[Mikey A]

I learned that. That people don't socialize on my time. You know what I mean?

[Billy Gill]

I was walking around Bourbon street. Hours of 8:00am until 8:00pm I was.

[Mikey A]

Walking around Bourbon street at like 7:30. I'm like, this is a ghost town. Where is everyone, Billy?

[Billy Gill]

They don't start going out until midnight.

[Mikey A]

Heard this is a busy town. This is an odd night.

[Billy Gill]

You are the oldest young person I have ever.

[Mikey A]

So this is a quick intro.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, yes.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you. We didn't even tell him about Papa G roaming around radio.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, Mikey, we saw.

[Billy Gill]

We.

[Mikey A]

So. So Rob is going around doing stuff for Bounty or someone and Papa G was there. Goons isn't. I was looking for goons. Goons.

[Billy Gill]

Goons is not here.

[Mikey A]

I don't think Goons wasn't there, but Papa G was walking around and M, I just, I'm sure they're gone now because I was like an hour ago. But I just wanted to go up, not talk to Gronk, bother him or anything. I just wanted to go up to Papa G and just be like, hey, Papa G, how's Gorgey's back?

[Billy Gill]

That's gorgeous.

[Mikey A]

Back to it. We know he's Gordy's back. Good seeing you. Just give Gordy our best, you know what I mean? And that's how you kind of get in with the Gronks. Even though, if I'm going to be honest with you, I think we're in with the Gronks.

[Billy Gill]

I think we are.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. I was going to say our. I don't think it played out exactly how Stugouts wanted it to, but I'm quite pleased, I'm quite pleased with the way that it has played out. I love Gordon Gordy.

[Billy Gill]

I love Gordy too.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

And I love Chris.

[Mikey A]

I love Chris too. I didn't think I was gonna like anyone as much as I like Chris, but here came Gordy.

[Billy Gill]

I want to love Rob. I just haven't had the chance yet. So, I mean, yeah, yeah. But I love Bobby Goons.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, yeah.

[Billy Gill]

But I think I love Papa G.

[Mikey A]

I think it's good for Gordy for us to have Gordy be our favorite. You know what I mean?

[Billy Gill]

Yes, yes. Because I think Gordy is the family favorite.

[Mikey A]

Everyone loves me, I think, I think, honestly, Gordy of like the friends group that go out like. Yes, everyone's, everyone's, everyone's talking about Gordy.

[Victor Cruz]

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Mikey A]

Favorite.

[Billy Gill]

It's.

[Mikey A]

Maybe Gordy doesn't need us to have him be our favorite.

[Billy Gill]

Right? Listen, Gordy starts going out at 2 in the morning. Billy, just like, if Gordy is here, his hours are certainly much different.

[Mikey A]

You know what I could do?

[Billy Gill]

Everyone's hours are different than yours.

[Mikey A]

I think I could just start getting up an hour earlier than I normally do and then I'll be out at prime time.

[Billy Gill]

There you go.

[Mikey A]

You know what I mean?

[Billy Gill]

What's prime time? So eight?

[Mikey A]

Well, no, I, I, I wake up like at five. If I just start getting up at four, I could catch people on the tail end of nights out.

[Billy Gill]

You get them on the way in.

[Mikey A]

They'Re like, billy's wild. He's out at 4 in the morning and I'm like, He's like, you look great all nighters. I just, you know, oh, man, what's.

[Victor Cruz]

In the cup Coffee.

[Mikey A]

Exactly. Cup of joe.

[Billy Gill]

So good. All right. Malcolm Jenkins.

[Mikey A]

Hey, Happy Saturday, by the way.

[Billy Gill]

Happy Super Bowl Saturday. It should be Super Bowl Saturday. It's not. They play it on a Sunday. It's dumb. Malcolm Jenkins. Next. You having a good week, man?

[Deuce McAllister]

Having a great week.

[Billy Gill]

Do you still enjoy, like. Do you enjoy this whole process of coming. Of coming to radio Row, like, doing the whole circuit, seeing old friends, being bothered by the media?

[Deuce McAllister]

All my old friends.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Deuce McAllister]

And it's even cool now because most of them have shows and stuff. So that's a whole new thing now. But it's pretty cool.

[Billy Gill]

That's very cool. Tell us what you're doing here. It sounds very cool. Phillips Auction House for the game of art. What's going on?

[Deuce McAllister]

Yeah. So, one, I have a lot of passions, and I love to bring those passions together.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Deuce McAllister]

One being sports and art, and I see no better city to represent that. Like, if you look at the heroes of this city in New Orleans, it's the artists and the athletes, and when those two worlds combine, there's an opportunity to create real change. So what we're doing at the game of art is bringing in athletes who in Phillips Auction House to educate us on. Oh, there he goes.

[Billy Gill]

There you go. Sit down over here.

[Deuce McAllister]

But Phillips Auction house is coming to educate artists, I mean, athletes, on how to collect and get into whether it's fine goods, watches, jewelry, but art specifically. I'm also flying in about seven renowned artists that really I've made friends with to again, have conversations about the. The impact of art in sports. And I've directly been impacted by guys like Larry Fitzgerald who are collectors. The legacy of Ernie Barnes, who was a former football player who turned into a painter. And so it's a really cool thing to bring that all together here. The Super Bowl.

[Mikey A]

It's a dangerous game when you're introducing people and educating them on the art. Right. Especially headed into an auction, because then they know exactly how much these things are worth. I feel like if I'm you, what I want to do is I get the art, and then I educate them after the fact. This is why this is so valuable. This is why this is such a good deal.

[Deuce McAllister]

You know, I think there's a.

[Mikey A]

This is why you shouldn't have. Let me get this. For this price.

[Deuce McAllister]

I like to share, you know, and so. And I can't collect everything.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Deuce McAllister]

You know, I can't collect it all. It's not Pokemon.

[Mikey A]

That's true.

[Deuce McAllister]

Right. So I think there's room for everybody to get in the space. Space. But I first want people to even just understand the power of art. How? You know, I think artists and their. The way that they look at the world is. Is what we need to change communities.

[Billy Gill]

Sure.

[Deuce McAllister]

And like I said, New Orleans is no better city to represent that.

[Billy Gill]

Who's your favorite artist? Who?

[Deuce McAllister]

Tavares Strand.

[Billy Gill]

Okay. He's mine too.

[Mikey A]

Tell us how you know about him.

[Deuce McAllister]

Man, I met him, right. I went to his studio and his art is all about hidden history. It's about the stars and astrophysics, but then also about game theory. And he has a lot of things. There's a lot of intersections of sports and life in his art. And so I resonated with it, you know, greatly. He's a renowned artist. He's actually coming here. I'm taking all of the artists to the game with me.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, really?

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Deuce McAllister]

It's gonna be a fun, fun weekend.

[Billy Gill]

That is a. Can you take us? Can you make art?

[Deuce McAllister]

You gotta make some art.

[Billy Gill]

I can barely do that.

[Mikey A]

Which do you like to do more? Teach people about art or teach artists about football?

[Deuce McAllister]

Oh, that' you know, it is. Those have been some great conversations when artists, you know, want to talk about ball. But I think I enjoy teaching athletes about art because it gives them another platform or another example of like a discipline and somebody who can. Who can do something physically with their body and manifest something that when you watch it or view it, it changes your life. I think athletes are looking to do that. We do that in our sport, sure. But when it comes to our voices, we're in leveraging our platforms. I think we can learn a lot from how artists communicate their thoughts into the community. That can be life changing.

[Mikey A]

Do you create anything or you just collect?

[Deuce McAllister]

I create something.

[Mikey A]

Dabble.

[Deuce McAllister]

I like. I dabble in photography. Like, literally when I came into the league, Larry Fitzgerald was one of my mentors. He was the guy I looked up to and trained with. And I saw how he was a photographer and he would travel the world and take photos. And I fell in love with the camera as well, following artists like Gordon Parks and just what it means to capture history and moments in a. In a photograph and how powerful that can be. I dabble with my camera every now and then.

[Mikey A]

Photography is tricky because a lot of people think it's just you push a button and the camera does all the work. And really there's a lot more that goes.

[Billy Gill]

Well, that's what amateurs do.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, they think you just push it and it just takes a bunch of pictures when it's really got to be the right place, the right time, that.

[Billy Gill]

Afterwards, little luck involved?

[Mikey A]

Well, no, not so much. Sometimes there's luck, but, like, it's the preparation, too, to put yourself in the right spot, to know exactly what it is that you're looking, like if it's wildlife that you're taking pictures or sunset landscape.

[Deuce McAllister]

But there's a little bit of luck, right? Because you don't control the sky. You don't control the animals. Like, even sports, right? Like, my favorite is a boxing ring. You see the boxing ring surrounded by photographers, but you only know a couple of key shots, right? So you had to be sitting in the right seat at the right vantage point and snap the picture right when the punch was getting thrown to get that thing. And there's definitely training. There's discipline and understanding photography, but there is luck. And that's where the beauty and the value comes, when you can create those moments.

[Billy Gill]

Malcolm, Becky, you want to apologize to me, man? There's a lot of.

[Mikey A]

Some people just dismiss photography and say, you just push a button and the camera does all the work.

[Billy Gill]

And some luck.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, there's a lot to it, you guys. You want to hear a flex? So Malcolm sits down, and he puts down his bourbon.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

And we're like, I want to make sure to promote the bourbon. He goes, don't bother. It's sold out.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, really?

[Deuce McAllister]

I didn't say don't bother, but it is.

[Billy Gill]

I'm assuming you're gonna make more than we're gonna make more.

[Deuce McAllister]

Yeah, for sure. This bottle was a special edition we did with Kinsey Distilling Company that's in Philadelphia, and we did it specifically for this super bowl run with the Eagles and to commemorate the last run that we had. So you'll see a bunch of football references on the labels. The helmets got my signature on there. I love a good cocktail. And I felt like it was only appropriate, especially here in New Orleans, to release a bourbon that was limited edition. And the fans, like I said, loved it. It was only available in Pennsylvania, and the bottles flew off of the shelves.

[Billy Gill]

So that is awesome.

[Deuce McAllister]

Yeah, we'll continue to do it. It's a project I love. I'm sure we'll do some more runs. So hoping everybody stays tuned.

[Billy Gill]

What's the piece of art that you own that you're proudest of that means the most to you?

[Deuce McAllister]

I would say Gordon Parks is a photographer.

[Billy Gill]

One of my favorites. Yeah. Very lucky guy, Gordon Parks.

[Deuce McAllister]

He did his work in just capturing images, like, specifically with Muhammad Ali. He followed him and A lot of these photos you've probably seen of Ali training behind the scenes, praying this is all Gordon Parks. And the way that he was able to showcase poverty in some of the remotest places in our country and put them on the main stage was impactful. And his choice of using a camera as a weapon to fight against poverty and racism is inspiring.

[Billy Gill]

You have your Eagle colors on right now. It's a beautiful suit.

[Deuce McAllister]

I appreciate it.

[Billy Gill]

It really is. But I. I've been saying all year that the Philadelphia fans, they don't deserve Nick Sirianni.

[Deuce McAllister]

Oh, whoa.

[Billy Gill]

Like, if Nick. They don't because they. They want to fire them after every single loss. And I realize that's how Philadelphia fans are from New York, well aware of that area of the country, and how they cheer on their teams and don't cheer on their teams. But Nick Sirianni has now been to the playoffs. He's the only Eagles coach to do this. I'm sure you know, this first four seasons, two Super Bowls almost beat Kansas City. The first time has a good chance of beating Kansas City. The this time. I maintain that if Nick Sirianni wins this game, he will go down as the greatest Eagles coach in Eagles history.

[Deuce McAllister]

And he will.

[Billy Gill]

And that's saying a lot, considering.

[Deuce McAllister]

It is considering a lot.

[Mikey A]

Doug Pearce has won a Super Bowl.

[Deuce McAllister]

I know, but the amount of success he's had, and I think it's the way that he's doing it. Right? His personality is like none of the other coaches that we've laid out on that pedigree.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Adam Pally]

But that's why Philly should love him.

[Billy Gill]

He is Philly.

[Deuce McAllister]

We do love him. But he's like a brother when it's not going right, only we can talk about him. Nobody else can say anything.

[Billy Gill]

It's like your brother, right?

[Deuce McAllister]

Yeah, it's like my brother. But I think everybody in Philly understands what his leadership has meant to this day.

[Mikey A]

Team.

[Deuce McAllister]

They take on his personality, which is very much aligned with Philly in our disposition. For almost anybody who steps in our stadium.

[Billy Gill]

That fan base is crazy.

[Deuce McAllister]

I love it, man.

[Billy Gill]

Do you really love it? There are times maybe when they go over the line.

[Deuce McAllister]

First game as an Eagle, we were down 21 nothing to the Jacksonville Jaguars, Right? And we got booed all the way into the locker room. And I laughed because it was. I'm from Jersey. I understand. I told my teammates. I was booed, too. Look at us, right?

[Billy Gill]

We're down 21 nothing.

[Deuce McAllister]

Yeah, but you end up winning that game. But it's one of Those things, you know, that they're going to be the most passionate fan base no matter where you go. So they have the right to boo because they've been so dedicated and so 10 toes down for this team.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Deuce McAllister]

That only them. And you know, they, they have the right to speak up and they're knowledgeable about the game.

[Billy Gill]

Mahomes annoying. I mean, what do you think?

[Deuce McAllister]

Oh, listen, I can't find greatness annoying. I think what he's doing.

[Billy Gill]

But he's getting in your way. I mean.

[Deuce McAllister]

No, no, listen. I tell everybody Peyton Manning was in my way. Tom Brady was in my way. That never stopped me from winning the Super Bowl.

[Billy Gill]

You're right.

[Deuce McAllister]

So I think it's. It's easy to respect what he's doing in Kansas City and there. And Andy Reid, I think it is, is it's a generational talent that we're watching.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Deuce McAllister]

Oh, but this weekend that's going to change.

[Billy Gill]

A lot of people are saying that, like a lot of guests that we've had on. Some people have said the Eagles by 14. Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Two scores.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, two scores. Like people think it's. It's a dangerous game. You don't want Patrick Mahomes hearing that.

[Deuce McAllister]

No, right, exactly. I think it'll be. I think it'll be a tough game. I think it'll be close. Close. I think it's going to be a wild fourth quarter. If there's anything Patrick Mahomes does well is take over fourth quarters of games with his legs, his arms, and Andy Reid always has answers. So I do think it's going to be one of those things where the Eagles can dominate for the majority of the game, but they're gonna, it's gonna come down to that fourth quarter.

[Billy Gill]

I love Jason Kelsey, so I'll say this on the front end, okay. But I don't think, I don't buy it when Jason Kelsey tells me he's rooting for the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Do you?

[Deuce McAllister]

Yes, I believe that whole lot.

[Billy Gill]

No, no, no. He's got his brother on the other side and I don't played against his brother. I know, but I think when you retire, the last thing you want is to see Saquon have the year that he had the offensive line be better than it was.

[Deuce McAllister]

I think Jason Kelsey is secure in.

[Billy Gill]

What he means to the Philadelphia organization.

[Deuce McAllister]

Where he doesn't need to hate on the success of this current team.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Deuce McAllister]

Like, I don't think any of us thought that, you know, him missing out of the lineup, but the backup center would play this well as they have. The offensive line has done well, but trust me, I think Jason's very secure in his standing amongst the Philly greats.

[Billy Gill]

I understand that. But it's a natural reaction to have. If once you leave the team, you don't want the team to do better. They did better.

[Mikey A]

I mean, and he was also the secret for the tush push for all these years. And then a tush push was finally.

[Deuce McAllister]

The foundation for all of that, you know, And I think he's going to go down. Like, think about how great you have to be to be an offensive center and be one of the biggest faces of a friend.

[Billy Gill]

A household name, too. Yes.

[Deuce McAllister]

And it's. So that's. He's done more for not only the city, this team, but for the sport.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Deuce McAllister]

Than I think anybody at that position.

[Billy Gill]

What do you remember most about winning.

[Deuce McAllister]

Super Bowls when they're over?

[Mikey A]

Yeah, man.

[Deuce McAllister]

I think the best part of It's a huge relief.

[Billy Gill]

Right?

[Deuce McAllister]

It's a huge relief. You just think about how poised you have to, like, be the entire year. You go through challenges, you're dealing with injuries, you're trying to keep. You're dealing with the media, you're trying to keep all the nerves out, and then you finally execute and get it done and there's nothing left to do but celebrate. Is the biggest relief that I've ever had.

[Billy Gill]

I've had players tell me they wish that game would start Sunday at 1:00. Like, waiting around till 6, 18 is like torture for them. You know?

[Deuce McAllister]

I mean. But you know what? It's. We grew up dreaming about these moments.

[Billy Gill]

Right? Right.

[Deuce McAllister]

So it's like you, you. It's so much anticipation, and then you got to trick yourself in these moments to act like it's just any other game.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Deuce McAllister]

To act like the rule. Because the rules are the same. The game is the same, the field's the same, the ball's the same. But we all know that the stakes are not the same.

[Billy Gill]

Yes. Listen, whatever you want to promote here, the Bourbon, it's sold out. But you're going to make more, probably more importantly, Phillips Auction House for the game of art. Go ahead and promote that one more time.

[Stugots]

Yeah.

[Deuce McAllister]

So Saturday, we're promoting in partnership with Phillips Auction House to raise money for the Malcolm Jenkins foundation, bringing in artists at the game of art, connecting artists with athletes. So that'd be a great, great event this weekend. But also one of the things that I've been really, really passionate about is helping athletes empower themselves and empower their money and their business. We work really, really hard on our bodies and our games, but when it comes to business, sometimes we take a backseat. And so it's just been really about opening up opportunities. So anytime I've done anything in business, whether it's in franchising or it's in sports ownership, I also create a vehicle to allow athletes to come along with me to learn first and foremost, but then also to co invest because, you know, we understand what business is a team sport and we know team sports better than everybody. And I think athletes oftentimes when it comes to business try to compete because we're so competitive and it's unnecessary. The people who do it, the best all work together. And so that's been a huge part of my platform recently is empowering athletes to go into business together and understand how to be the CEO of their own team.

[Billy Gill]

Malcolm Jenkins, you're a good man.

[Deuce McAllister]

Thank you.

[Billy Gill]

We appreciate your time, sir. I love you, man.

[Deuce McAllister]

I love you too.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you, brother. I appreciate it.

[Deuce McAllister]

I'm looking forward to seeing some of your art soon.

[Billy Gill]

No, we have art. I did it. I did a bit flim brand where I, I drew a bunch of pictures and I told people how much they were worth. To Billy's point, I set the market. That's how you have to do.

[Deuce McAllister]

That's how you got to do it.

[Billy Gill]

I'll sell you a piece. We'll talk later. Okay?

[Mikey A]

Thank you so much.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you. Thank you. Stachier, I want to tell you a story. I'm serious here. My wife and my two daughters, they begged me to buy a peloton. So I bought a peloton. And then I watched that peloton sit in my office and stare at me. So you know what I did one day I looked at it and so I decided to get off my ass and I jumped on the peloton because no one else was using it and I paid for it. I mean, so why not? Then I realized eventually that they bought it for me. And I got to tell you, way more challenging than I could have ever imagined. Peloton coaches are walking the walk. I love the coach coaches. I do the grateful dead one. It's fantastic. They have a sub 3 hour marathon runner, military trained athlete, a former college basketball player, and so many other well rounded coaches on their team. All this experience really shows in their classes, which are never short of challenging, especially for me. So I jumped on it that first time. It was challenging, more challenging than I thought. And then I wanted to beat the bike and So I kept jumping on it, and I absolutely love it. I mean, I'm the only one who uses it, but again, they got it for me. I mean, I had no idea. That's a little passive aggressive, don't you think? Find your push, find your power. With [e-mail].

[Mikey A]

Harder than football for you, Victor?

[Cam Jordan]

Is it better than football?

[Mikey A]

No, harder for football.

[Billy Gill]

Just so you know, we were talking about golf before. Yeah. Before we got started. Victor is a 10 handicap. After four years of playing, I was complaining to him that he's already better than me. I've been playing my entire life, so.

[Mikey A]

It'S, you know, it's crazy. So we were just talking to Vernon Davis a little while ago. He was telling us how much harder acting is than football, too.

[Cam Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, big time. I think acting, golf, anything that doesn't come as a natural ability, like golf, I mean, football for me, I've been playing since I was what, seven, eight years old?

[Mikey A]

Right.

[Cam Jordan]

It's an innate thing. You know, run, jump, catch. Golf has. And even acting is so much more in your head. Like, obviously there's a technique to golf and a technique to swinging the golf club, but once you have that down as an athlete, feet that you have an awareness of your body, you're going to get the swing down, get the muscle memory. You know what I mean?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Cam Jordan]

But it's just the mental aspect of it that's so daunting that you got. Now I understand why golfers, they make a mistake on the professional ranks. They make a mistake and they stay the same. They like, don't. They may have a small reaction, but they understand that they have to flush it and focus on the next shot and focus on the next task at hand. And that's the hardest thing for me to do because I want to just throw my Frisbee, my club into the water.

[Billy Gill]

What's the angriest golf has ever made? You?

[Cam Jordan]

You the angry. I've never gotten that. That mad, but I definitely, I have.

[Billy Gill]

No doubt that that sport has made you angrier than football ever has, 1,000%.

[Cam Jordan]

And I get internally angry. Like, you just see me, like, get quiet and go in a shell, and I'm not as talkative and social anymore. And then I have a beverage and it's all good. But like, definitely those moments of just introspectiveness, and I just get so mad because I'm like, I play way too. In my head, I go, I play way too much to duff this shot that I just tried Chilling. Or this pitch shot or this driver or whatever it is. I'm like, I'm out here in this course way too often to be messing up this shot.

[Billy Gill]

But to your earlier point, the professional golfers know those things are just going to happen.

[Cam Jordan]

It just.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Cam Jordan]

And I've learned this recently. Golf is about minimizing the mistakes.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Cam Jordan]

Not trying to be great.

[Billy Gill]

Horror is good sometimes.

[Cam Jordan]

Your friend.

[Billy Gill]

Bogeys can be your friend.

[Cam Jordan]

Can be your friend, too. Absolutely.

[Billy Gill]

That's exactly right. What are you doing with Captain Morgan down here, man?

[Cam Jordan]

Doing some fun stuff with Captain Morgan. I think this is our fourth year maybe doing this now. Well, first of all, the fan of the year aspect of it, which is always dope. I get to meet a lot of dope fans and a lot of dope people that make the NFL what it is. I think the players do what they do and we play the game that we love, but the fans really make this thing go and make this thing tick. So to meet them and for them to crown the ultimate fan of the year tonight at NFL honors is going to be a dope. A dope experience. And then on top of that, that, there's always a party, right? They do a big party on Saturday night. Rum Street. We're changing the name of Bourbon street to Rum Street.

[Billy Gill]

Really?

[Cam Jordan]

And. And Captain Morgan's throwing a huge party. They're renting out a. An establishment down there. We got T Pain performing. We got, you know, Captain Morgan flowing everywhere. Obviously 21 and older. To enjoy, go to follow the captain.com for all the information and I'll see you there.

[Mikey A]

You guys are just gonna tell them that Victor invited you. Show him at the door, you're good to go.

[Cam Jordan]

I will not be there to vouch.

[Billy Gill]

What do you mean?

[Cam Jordan]

You guys are on your own? I'll be inside enjoying myself. I'll be working the door.

[Billy Gill]

Did you get anyone's permission to. To turn into Rum Streets?

[Mikey A]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Victor Cruz]

Or you just doing it.

[Cam Jordan]

That's on Captain Morgan.

[Mikey A]

They're just going to plaster this three gold America situation.

[Billy Gill]

Victor, it's funny because a lot of people seem. It's the weirdest thing because it's a great super bowl matchup. It's two great teams, and people seem bored by the matchup because we saw it two years ago.

[Cam Jordan]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

But it was one of the greatest games we've ever seen.

[Cam Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Billy Gill]

And weird.

[Cam Jordan]

It was. And what. The Eagles are one pass interference away from potentially winning that thing.

[Billy Gill]

I know.

[Cam Jordan]

So it's. I think we're going to get a phenomenal game. I think, obviously there's a lot of storylines in this game with Saquon Barkley and the Eagles and what they've done, obviously avenging what happened two years ago, and the Kansas City side obviously going for three in a row and seeing history for the first time. And. And can Patrick Mahomes start to cement himself as the goat? Winning three in a row, four in the last five years. It's going to be an incredible game, an incredible matchup overall, and I'm. I'm excited for it, personally.

[Billy Gill]

Can you believe your New York Giants? Let's say Saquon go inside this what we're doing. Honestly, I'm sorry. I love you, but he. Rum Street. I mean, come on.

[Cam Jordan]

It's one thing to see him go, which. That happens in the NFL, right? But geez Louise, the way he went and where he went, just like when he left, it's like there's one gut punch, and then where he went was just like, I. I got enough. I don't have any more guts to.

[Billy Gill]

Punch guys you sprinkle in golf.

[Cam Jordan]

Yeah, exactly, exactly. But. But as a person, man, I couldn't be happier for him. I think as a player, he deserved this opportunity to play on a team that can contend for a Super bowl and to be in it his first year there. It's really special for him and his family and his team teammate. So I want him to have 300 yards rushing, but lose the game.

[Billy Gill]

Have a good game, but lose.

[Mikey A]

Very good. Good friend.

[Billy Gill]

What are. Very good friend. We asked Ed Reed because I maintain that Ed Reed is the coolest guy in this place. You're the second coolest. Okay. You're on the metal station. Okay. But I'm wondering, what are the keys to being cool? Because Billy and I need help, in case you haven't noticed.

[Cam Jordan]

Well, the key to being cool. I don't know if there's a template or a list for things to being cool. I think it's just about being yourself.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Cam Jordan]

Chilling vibes, not worried about what's going on. It's all about the energy. You got the energy. You exude it out to the people. Don't let the energy use you. Right.

[Gerald McCoy]

You know what I mean?

[Cam Jordan]

Just chill, relax, and let it flow.

[Billy Gill]

I wish we were cool.

[Mikey A]

I could never wear those shoes. You got great shoes.

[Billy Gill]

But he doesn't give a bleep about it.

[Mikey A]

Blisters. Yeah.

[Cam Jordan]

The key is lotion. I have to make sure. Because if you wear this type of shoe.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Cam Jordan]

See How. How oiled up this ankle is. Yeah, because it could be ashy.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Cam Jordan]

It could be a problematic thing here where the ankles are out and you're wearing this type of shoe and they're ashy, and that's not good. That's not cool at all.

[Mikey A]

Right. Okay.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Cam Jordan]

So the fact that we've got the proper amount of lotion on this ankle here is.

[Mikey A]

Write that down.

[Billy Gill]

So lotion and oil. Okay. I'm writing lotion and oils.

[Cam Jordan]

He really wrote.

[Mikey A]

I don't know what he's gonna do with that later on.

[Billy Gill]

That's not cool.

[Cam Jordan]

There's a little bit of ash on there.

[Billy Gill]

There's a ton of ash on there. Real ashes, though. What do you miss the most about the NFL?

[Mikey A]

Man?

[Cam Jordan]

Oh, man. I think two things. One is just game day. Like, there's nothing like preparing for battle with your brothers in the locker room, getting ready to go out there and put your best foot forward, applying what you did all week and putting it out there on the football field. And then just my teammates, man. Just that camaraderie. You know, when you win a Super bowl with a bunch of guys, like, they become family immediately. You know what I mean? So there's for life, right? Guys that I talk to to this day that I won a championship with, and it's just a beautiful thing to have. And, you know, football is really just brought everything full circle for me.

[Billy Gill]

One more time here. Victor, on the way out. We do appreciate the time. My man, tell us what you're doing with Captain Morgan.

[Cam Jordan]

Yeah, man. Captain Morgan, obviously, the NFL fan of the year, ultimate fan of the year will be crowned tonight at NFL Honors, which will be fun to watch and see who will be crowned the ultimate fan. And I've met some of these fans. These guys are insane. They're. They're phenomenal. You actually met them over the years as well. Like, they are rabid. Rabid fans of their. Of their specific teams. And then Rum Street. Returning Bourbon street to Rum Street. We got a bar.

[Billy Gill]

No one's permission.

[Cam Jordan]

Yeah, no one's permission. We're doing it, rogue. We're doing it. You know, it's all on us. And we got T. Pain performing. Come through. Everyone that's 21 and older, please go to follow the captain.com and get all the information and figure out how to get into, you know, that. That party on Rum Street. Don't hit me up because I will not be able to get you in. If I make eye contact with you, I will be immediate, immediately looking the opposite Way.

[Billy Gill]

Okay. That's very kind of you. How would they get a hold of you?

[Mikey A]

Yeah, exactly.

[Cam Jordan]

Someone gonna see me, get in contact, look at me, don't look at me.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I can't do it.

[Billy Gill]

All right, well, enjoy your time down on Rum street and hopefully you get someone's permission. We appreciate the time, man. You're welcome.

[Cam Jordan]

Thank you, Victor.

[Billy Gill]

I love you, man.

[Cam Jordan]

I appreciate that.

[Billy Gill]

All right.

[Cam Jordan]

I love you, too.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, yeah, my man. If we have eight minutes, Billy might spend his entire eight minutes on this thing. Okay. I love it.

[Mikey A]

I mean, that's a cool looking thing.

[Stugots]

I mean, I'm not gonna say I've done a lot of stirring, but I.

[Mikey A]

Definitely know what they are.

[Stugots]

I do the eating that counts.

[Billy Gill]

You've been having fun, man.

[Stugots]

Oh, dude, it's been a blast.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, it's fun. Fun city for this.

[Mikey A]

The eating is just as important as the cooking. Because if you cook and no one eats, what's the point of cooking? People don't appreciate the eaters as much as they appreciate the chef.

[Stugots]

As valuable as the chef, are you cooking for nobody? Nobody's eating.

[Billy Gill]

So you're just as valuable as the chef because you're eating the food he prepares.

[Mikey A]

What would they be cooking for if people weren't eating exist? Exactly. Right?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Stugots]

What comes first?

[Billy Gill]

There's not equal value, though.

[Mikey A]

Classical chicken or an egg situation.

[Billy Gill]

Why am I fighting with Whitworth about this? What the hell is in your hand right now? Explain to the audience what that is.

[Stugots]

This is bull paddle right here. When you cook it, when you're boiling up your crawfish and shrimp, this is what you stir it with. Stir it in the pot, baby.

[Mikey A]

We're in Louisiana. You're in Louisiana, Right, Sorry.

[Stugots]

I get with a plan.

[Billy Gill]

Forgot where I was.

[Stugots]

That's right.

[Billy Gill]

I forgot. What. What are you doing? What are you doing with Pepsi? Super bowl boil.

[Stugots]

They're putting on the very first super bowl boil. Nice. Happening tomorrow at Waldenburg Park. So it's gonna be an awesome opportunity. Two of the best bowlers in the city. Mr. Shrimp and Crawling seafood. Gonna compete against each other. I'm gonna get a chance to do the most important thing.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Stugots]

Obviously it's important if you can cook it. It's really important if you can eat it.

[Billy Gill]

So. All right.

[Stugots]

You know, I'm going to get.

[Mikey A]

A lot of people are saying that.

[Billy Gill]

Yes, Right. The chef and the eater, they're partners. Right.

[Stugots]

We're going to have some ice cold Pepsis and enjoy some good crawfish and shrimp bowls.

[Billy Gill]

Whitworth, how Mad. Does this make you. I don't know what your handicap is. We see you every summer out in Lake Tahoe. Victor Cruz was just sitting down with us and he was telling us that after four years, four years of golf, his handicap is a 10.

[Stugots]

I know that's impressive.

[Billy Gill]

And I said, that's better than me. I've been playing my entire life.

[Stugots]

That's awesome.

[Billy Gill]

Impressive, I know, but frustrated.

[Cam Jordan]

Yeah.

[Stugots]

You know, honestly, I gotta see it.

[Mikey A]

Are you a 10, everybody? Exactly right.

[Stugots]

Listen, guys say they have handicaps. Listen, I'm not saying Victor's a liar. I just like to see it when competition is up. I want to see it in a tournament where you play your own ball. Like, Like American Century.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Stugots]

You know, that tells us a little more about what your handicap is.

[Billy Gill]

What have you been doing here in New Orleans? What have you been getting into?

[Stugots]

Just got in last night, you know, just kind of getting, you know, we know what it is. Catching up with everybody. It's awesome. Awesome, man. Just see guys, you didn't even, you know, hadn't even come across your mind. You're going to run into this person or that person from your past and, man, it's been awesome. Just catch up with people and, you know, obviously tomorrow will be a lot of fun with this event, but that's what this week's all about, man. The fellowship around the super bowl and this game that we all love.

[Billy Gill]

It's really interesting because a lot of guys, they struggle post post NFL careers with, just adjusting with, with retirement and so. But you seem to handle it very, very well. I don't know if what you're doing is as satisfying as playing in the NFL, but the transition, the transition has seemed to be an easy one for you. Is that fair?

[Stugots]

It has. I mean, I think I just, I love people, I love the game of football and getting a chance to still be around it in that way. And that something that's changed my life, my kids life, my wife's life. Obviously we've been, you know, our viewpoint in life has been dramatically increased of just, you know, all the things we've gotten to be a part of. That's so cool. And then now to stay close enough to the game on Thursday Night Football, I still get to talk about the game of football and, and I always say, like, just those, you know, two and a half hours before every game, just seeing guys and coaches and people that have been, you know, a part of your career. Yeah, that, that's one of the coolest parts. And so it's Been a lot of fun, man, to retire and to have kind of what you would call a soft landing to find the space for you to continue. Chapter two is a blast. And so developing those relationships has been probably one of the things I've enjoyed the most.

[Mikey A]

Well, and it's also been really cool to see from afar just because, like, timing worked out perfectly for you. Right. Because you go, you do Thursday Night Football and you get to create something from the start and you guys have made something that's really.

[Billy Gill]

And around the game. Yes.

[Mikey A]

And then you can kind of just dictate how you want it to go because it's not something you're joining. Like you're joining like an NFL live or something like that that's been around for years. And like, this is how we do things. You guys are kind of creating the format for other people to follow.

[Stugots]

Yeah, it's fun. Anytime you're in something like that, where you're starting up with each other and you're establishing what you're kind of, you know, people want to use this word culture, but like just you want to establish those boundaries of who you are and your relationships and, you know, the culture of really what Amazon's going to be and Thursday Night Football is going to be. You know, I relate to it very similar, like in the sense of in 2011 when it became Andy Dalton, AJ Green, Gino Atkins, Carlos Dillard, this young, talented football team, and here you are as the older statesman, the captain, you kind of, kind of find where everybody fits and how do we go to achieve. And we went on that run to go to the playoffs for multiple years in a row. And then I went to LA and it's Jared Goff and it's Todd Gurley and it's this young team and this 30 year old head coach that you're older than and it's like, all right, how do we like all find our vibe and like how we go chase success together and kind of get to know one another and what that looks like. It's no different. I get off the field. Yeah, you're not playing football, but you're still like, all right. On a weekly basis we're traveling together, staying in hotels, playing, you know, going to games, covering games. I don't, I've never been on tv. I don't know, when do I talk? When do I not talk?

[Billy Gill]

You're excited talking about it.

[Stugots]

It's a blast. So it's like a new adventure, a new challenge and establishing those relationships, which has been unbelievable and so much Fun.

[Mikey A]

And who knew? I mean, I don't know if you knew. Fashion icon.

[Stugots]

That's what I had. Circles.

[Mikey A]

No doubt. Here we are. I'm gonna be the guy. Hoodie, blazer on top. Fashion icon. It was in there somewhere. We just didn't. We still know it was there.

[Stugots]

That's right. I think we look back about 20 years ago, people would be really mad that they worried about what I'm wearing, what I look like. So be a fashion icon is unbelievable. It is. It is actually fun how mad people get, like, racing the game of football with your hoodie on. And then it's like, on the flip.

[Mikey A]

Side, look at Fitzpatrick. Come on.

[Billy Gill]

This is my husband.

[Stugots]

Oh, dude, it's hilarious. And then the other. It's like, I'll get 50 texts to that or 50 tweets of that. And then it's 50 tweets of like, what brand is it? I need it. I'm getting it. This is my husband for Christmas. So it's just funny how it's. So either side, it's like, either people absolutely love it, or they are like, man, you are ruining TV coverage. Did you have a hoodie on?

[Billy Gill]

How about you be comfortable? I mean, right?

[Stugots]

Listen, I want to do. And you said this like, hey, man, it looks like it's been easy. It's not that it's been easy. It's just my only goal when I got into this was is I just want to be me, like, who I am.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Stugots]

And if people like that, great. I don't have to say something to get people's attention or I don't need to go on TV to get people to react to something I'm saying, even if I believe it or not. I just say what I believe in. I try to be myself, and if people like it, great. If they don't, oh, well.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, well. What are you smiling at?

[Mikey A]

I just. I have radio row. I just kind of take it. Mad Dog just walked by with the free wings about he's giving away, which is like, mad Dog, you're a multi millionaire. You don't need to go get free wings.

[Billy Gill]

No, he does.

[Mikey A]

It's incredible. There's so much going on.

[Billy Gill]

Are you getting free wings?

[Stugots]

I mean, I'm about to find out.

[Mikey A]

Don't fill up. You have the Pepsi Boil coming up.

[Billy Gill]

I know.

[Stugots]

I gotta be ready, man. This is a big deal. I mean, I just. I just realized that one of these. One of these two restaurants is gonna be very upset with my decision.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Stugots]

So there's a lot of pressure Is.

[Mikey A]

There any way that you kind of, like, sit on the fence on this one, maybe let someone else make decisions? I don't think you can do that. Anyone.

[Billy Gill]

Does Whitworth look like a guy who's gonna let someone else make decisions for.

[Stugots]

Him and probably just choose the one I like?

[Mikey A]

Okay, well, I'm good.

[Billy Gill]

Matthew Stafford, what do you think he's going to do here in the off season?

[Stugots]

Well, I mean, obviously I think he wants to be in la, and I.

[Billy Gill]

Put you in a bad spot because I know how friendly you are.

[Stugots]

But no, no, I obviously, I think Matthew wants to be in la. I think he wants to figure it out. But obviously last year we saw it went up to the very last minute trying to figure out that. And I think both sides want some clarity on that whole situation. Like, hey, are we going forward for a couple more years together? I think Matthew feels like he can still play ball at a really high level. I think he was playing that way at the end of the year for sure. So I think it definitely is in the best interest of both to get it figured out because I don't know that there's a whole lot of Matthew Staffords out there in the world. So definitely that situation. I think the Cooper cup situation obviously makes it a little tougher to figure out what's going on there and, you know, and how they move forward.

[Billy Gill]

Do you guys root for. Do you personally root for Jared Goff? That trade worked out for both teams perfectly. Yes, but you're rooting for Jared Goff.

[Stugots]

Jared is like a little brother. I love him to death and went to his wife wedding this summer. Massively huge fan of Jared and Kristen and the human beings they are. So definitely rooting for them at all times.

[Billy Gill]

All right, fashion icon Andrew Whitworth, tell us one more time about Pepsi Super Bowl Boil.

[Stugots]

Yeah. First ever Pepsi super bowl boil. It's going to be tomorrow 12 to 2 at Waldenburg Park. You know what? We're going to have some Pepsi, some crawfish, some shrimp. I'll give you a chance. If you come by, you can stir with this thing. It's fantastic. You know, the key is, is do you soak or do you sprinkle? That's. That's the question people want to know when you're a crawfisher, crawfish bowler is, do you soak or sprinkle? Yes.

[Mikey A]

Two guys.

[Stugots]

That's a big.

[Billy Gill]

I sprinkle. I tend to sprinkle.

[Stugots]

You're a sprinkler.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, you soaker.

[Mikey A]

You're Gonna be able to keep that thing when you head out?

[Stugots]

You know what?

[Billy Gill]

He wants to keep it, though.

[Stugots]

Back to his question. Do I care if somebody's gonna. If you think they're gonna be able to take this from me?

[Mikey A]

I love that. I don't know how the hell you're gonna get that through security, but good luck.

[Stugots]

I don't know what the Pepsi people have planned, but there's zero chance.

[Billy Gill]

Is there a guy in that building that can take that from you? Is there a single person at Radio Row? Singular person is from Whitworth? No.

[Stugots]

I would like. That'd be a fun game. Let's try it.

[Billy Gill]

Ed Reed, can he take it from you, Andrew? We appreciate it, man. Enjoy the rest of your week, buddy.

[Stugots]

Appreciate it, brother.

[Billy Gill]

All right. So you got in last night.

[Victor Cruz]

Got in last night.

[Billy Gill]

Straight to beers with the boys. Who are the boys? What boys are we talking about here? Year.

[Victor Cruz]

So when I was with the Giants, one of. One of the guys in the equipment room was Jack Mara, who was. You know, obviously family's involved with the team, but he's one of the best human beings on planet earth. So I met him, said, what's up to him? My buddy Mike ran into another, a former player friend of mine. So it was just. It was good. We just catch up with everybody. You're here for 48 hours or 72 hours. You're like, I have to maximize. I have to see everybody.

[Billy Gill]

Yep.

[Victor Cruz]

And it's a lot, though, right? It's a lot.

[Billy Gill]

It is, yes. Plus, you have to do this, you know?

[Victor Cruz]

Well, I love this.

[Billy Gill]

Good job out of you. Yes.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I love.

[Victor Cruz]

Can I. Can I curse on here? I love talking with the boys. Like, this is what I. This is what I live for. I just moved. Moving to Florida.

[Billy Gill]

You.

[Victor Cruz]

You guys are Florida guys, right?

[Billy Gill]

We are, yeah. Where you moving?

[Victor Cruz]

West Palm Beach.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, wow.

[Victor Cruz]

Bright line. Right to Miami.

[Billy Gill]

By me. Yes. No, I don't live in Miami.

[Victor Cruz]

Sorry.

[Billy Gill]

They all live in Miami. I live about an hour and a half north of Miami, so I'm closer to you than you are to our studios. Perfect.

[Victor Cruz]

All right, well, then we got to find some good. There's some good.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Victor Cruz]

Some good Cuban food up in West Palm Beach.

[Billy Gill]

Why are you moving there?

[Victor Cruz]

Families there. Get back closer to the East Coast.

[Billy Gill]

Nice.

[Victor Cruz]

I'm gonna be doing some stuff up in New York. I'm doing, like, an education program partner with the NFL this off season, so I got some stuff.

[Billy Gill]

Some.

[Victor Cruz]

Some stuff rolling.

[Billy Gill]

You love life, man In.

[Victor Cruz]

You have to.

[Billy Gill]

You do. You're right.

[Victor Cruz]

You got to get in in the morning.

[Mikey A]

You better than hating life.

[Billy Gill]

I know, I know. But he really attacks life. It seems like, Billy, you got to have.

[Victor Cruz]

I. I do. Like, some people are introverts, right? They don't like talking to people. I'll talk to anybody, really, to a fault. Like, my. My buddy would be like, dude, we're wasting time. Like you. I'm like, no, yeah. This guy that we're talking to right now is. Is the most important person we're talking to at the moment.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, but that's a blessing and a curse because a fan can come up to you and all of a sudden you're in a two hour conversation.

[Victor Cruz]

It happened on the way in. This guy started yelling at us and he's like. He said mvp. And I thought he was getting on me for my MVP prediction. Like, I've been talking about Saquon should potentially win mvp, right? So, my God, this guy's gonna give me some. Say something to me.

[Billy Gill]

Right? Right.

[Victor Cruz]

And he's like, no, I'm calling you the mvp, man. I'm trying to get you on. So we ended up talking. I was late to my first one. I show up late here. So real life example, how do you.

[Mikey A]

Get out of these things?

[Billy Gill]

Right?

[Mikey A]

Like, how do you get out of the small talk? You get. You get in. But you realize, like, okay, you were the most important person, but now, now someone else is gonna.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Victor Cruz]

I straight up tell you, like, yeah, we're done.

[Gerald McCoy]

Oh, wow.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, yeah.

[Victor Cruz]

I'm a very honest person, too.

[Mikey A]

Okay.

[Victor Cruz]

I'm a type of guy, like, you laugh at everything or you don't laugh at anything.

[Billy Gill]

Sure.

[Victor Cruz]

You talk.

[Mikey A]

Right.

[Victor Cruz]

And if. Hey, I gotta go.

[Billy Gill]

Right?

[Victor Cruz]

Hey, buddy, it was nice meeting you.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, see you.

[Victor Cruz]

See you effing later. I'm going to the next interview.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, but 20 minutes too late. You do that. Yeah. Yeah. You're too nice of a guy.

[Victor Cruz]

It's better that way. You guys are a little more to the point. Is that. Is that.

[Mikey A]

No, on the opposite. I'll be there three hours.

[Billy Gill]

No, no, same. Same with me.

[Mikey A]

I can't get out of conversation.

[Billy Gill]

That's why he was asking, how do you get out? Yeah, we're locked in with. In conversations. And you don't want to be mean. You don't want to just walk away.

[Victor Cruz]

You can be honest, I guess.

[Billy Gill]

You know, that's hard for me.

[Mikey A]

You know who's great at it is Austin Eckler. Austin Eckler. We would have on every single week. And. And he is a very Nice, genuine guy. And we would talk to him and he is very regimented and he is going to stick to the schedule. So Stugot is not the best at wrapping up interviews. Sometimes he'll get friendly. He'll want to throw in an extra conversation, an extra question here or there. And I like, all right, good senior boys. And then boom, hits the zoom and he's out of there. On to the next thing.

[Victor Cruz]

I interviewed him. I did a show. I did a show this year and I interviewed Austin. He's incredible. The amount of stuff that guy's got going on.

[Billy Gill]

He's great.

[Mikey A]

So much. He's so set up after football. Like whenever he stops, he has so many different things going.

[Victor Cruz]

And you know why is because he wasn't like a highly drafted guy, always counted out. So he always thought about life outside of football. I need, I. I want more people to have that mindset. It took me a while to get that myself, so that's something that I'm hopefully going to work on. The future.

[Billy Gill]

He's grateful for it. He appreciates it because of his path, because he was undrafted, Austin was undrafted.

[Victor Cruz]

He's shaking hands, kissing babies. He knows how to leverage the NFL in his situation.

[Billy Gill]

No doubt. What are you doing with Mugsy?

[Victor Cruz]

Mugsy is a brand that I've worn throughout my entire career.

[Stugots]

Right.

[Victor Cruz]

It's got the four way stretch. It's a big guy. I've never had jeans that fit. I was always wearing like the hand me downs and this and that. So Mugsy came on board. They sponsored one of our episodes through the season, Thursday Night Football. We had the line fleece line jeans means. But I'm here today supporting them. I'm rocking the Canadian tuxedo. I'm sweating a little bit. It's a little humid down here in New Orleans, but it's a great brand. Great people. Happy to be doing it.

[Billy Gill]

Wait till you get a summer of West Palm beach in you. I mean, yeah, we might not be.

[Victor Cruz]

Wearing the denim jackets as much in West Palm Beach. Go Belichick.

[Mikey A]

Exactly right.

[Victor Cruz]

What would Belichick do? Sleeves off.

[Billy Gill]

Yes. Yeah, that's.

[Victor Cruz]

That's absolutely that one up.

[Billy Gill]

So share your opinion on Saquon Barkley with us, if you don't mind. And why he should win the mvp.

[Victor Cruz]

Look, he is going to have the best running back season of all time. He would have broken the record in less attempts than Eric Dickerson.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Victor Cruz]

He did 30 attempts to get 140 yards. He was going to do that.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Victor Cruz]

He's going to go and Break Terrell Davis's record of all time rushing yards through an entire season. And with my prediction, they're going to also win the Super Bowl. So I think that Saquon Barkley is the most important player to this Eagles team than anybody else.

[Stugots]

Because.

[Victor Cruz]

Because you can, you can make the argument it's always a quarterback of war. They touch the ball more. Yes, all those things are true. And I truly believe that it's going to be a Lamar, Josh Allen. But I think Saquon actually is the mvp.

[Mikey A]

So that's, that's, I guess the argument for people who are arguing Josh Allen over Lamar Jackson. Right. Is that he's the most valuable to his team, which is what you're saying about Saquon.

[Victor Cruz]

And it's. It's an historic season. How can you have a guy that breaks a record that stood for 40 years or he didn't get the chance to. So I actually think because he didn't break the regular season, he's only going to break the entire season. He won't get it.

[Billy Gill]

So I'm going to try this out on you because I asked Mina Kimes this last week and. And she didn't know how to answer it. Okay. In a weird world, if the Eagles, okay, had to choose one player to not play in the super bowl this Sunday, would they choose Jalen Hurts or Saquon Barkley?

[Victor Cruz]

So the quarterback touches the ball in every single play.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Victor Cruz]

You have to have Jalen Hurts. He's going to be able to conduct the offense. The quarterback is the most important position. Yeah. Yes. J. My boy, Jay Gruden. I do a show with Jay Gruden. He is the, you know, he's quarterback, everything. Yes, but if I was building a team and you said, hey, you have the first pick and like, you're starting a new. A new team tomorrow just for. Just for next season.

[Billy Gill]

Just for next season.

[Victor Cruz]

I'm taking Saquon over Jalen Hurts. But in the super bowl, you need your quarterback. I can't just insert Kenny Picket, but if I can get Saquon and then I can go get. Insert the next quarterback that I would take later in the draft, go and Saquon first overall.

[Billy Gill]

It's a weird way of saying Saquon is not as valuable as people. I'm trying to fight your argument here because of course you would take Jalen Hurts. You need that guy. The Eagles have been to a Super bowl without Saquon Barkley, but they haven't been to one without Jaylen.

[Victor Cruz]

If you ask me how I would build a team, though. I would only give a quarterback a certain percentage of the cap. No team has won a Super bowl paying a quarterback more than 18% of the salary cap.

[Billy Gill]

I like that.

[Victor Cruz]

So if you can manipulate cap, which the Eagles can, or you can get a rookie salary quarterback, that's how I think you build a team. I would pay eight defensive linemen before paying anyone else.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Victor Cruz]

The Eagles and The San Francisco 49ers build their team games the best way from the trenches out.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Victor Cruz]

And you look at Brock Purdy, everyone's like, what would you do with Purdy? I wouldn't pay Purdy.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Victor Cruz]

I would. I would go, I would. I would.

[Billy Gill]

That's really interesting because we just had Joe Montana on. He's like, well, you have to pay Brock Purdy.

[Victor Cruz]

I mean, but you wouldn't, because quarterbacks hate me. Quarterbacks.

[Billy Gill]

So you just want the quarterback on the rookie contract, essentially, I would say.

[Victor Cruz]

To Brock Purdy, I will tie your salary to the cap and do a percentage. I'm always going to give you 18 of the cap. It's going to go up. You're gonna actually get a pay raise every year. I just don't know if teams would tie salary to the. To the cat.

[Mikey A]

Well, it's why Baker is so valuable to the Buccaneers, because he's getting half of what Dak is getting essentially now.

[Victor Cruz]

And maybe that goes back to your Josh Allen argument. That's why he's so impressive. I don't know what he's making in terms of percentage of cap, but I think there's a. You know, there's all sorts of analytics out there. The Browns swung and missed. Big on it. You see him trying to prorate DeShawn's contract. That's the worst contract ever in history. Not even in football, like in. In America and democracy since Louisiana Purchase.

[Billy Gill]

I gotta tell you, man. Really.

[Mikey A]

Probably one of the. One of the few people to make that comparison.

[Billy Gill]

Tell us more about the Louisiana. I have no idea.

[Victor Cruz]

So actually, don't cancel me if I said something. Yeah, but we're in. We're here, we're here.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. I had to go way back in time, really.

[Victor Cruz]

It just emphasized my point, right.

[Billy Gill]

It's.

[Victor Cruz]

They're gonna be like, do you know anything about, like, I guarantee I'm getting canceled.

[Billy Gill]

It's the first time in the history of radio row that that's been mentioned. Just so you know.

[Victor Cruz]

You know what I'm gonna do?

[Billy Gill]

I'm setter.

[Victor Cruz]

I'm gonna sneak it into every interview. Mugsy Louisiana Purchase.

[Billy Gill]

You get the show. Yes.

[Victor Cruz]

You guys. Well, I had a blast the last time I came on.

[Mikey A]

I know.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, so do we. You're a handsome fella. I got to be honest. I'm jealous of you.

[Victor Cruz]

I just saw a picture, I just saw a picture of me back with the New York Giants. And, and the guy goes, is my buddy Jack. And he's like, your bought. Your, your wife. Bought.

[Billy Gill]

Bought low.

[Victor Cruz]

You were, you were not looking great early on in your football career. I lost some the TV 12 message.

[Billy Gill]

But you're coming on, man.

[Victor Cruz]

Yeah. Part of the Louisiana purchases, you have to make sure you commit to the.

[Mikey A]

Health and buy when the price is right.

[Victor Cruz]

All right. Exactly.

[Billy Gill]

So it seems. I want you to try to do this with the Louisiana Purchase reference. Why you tell us why you think the Eagles are going to win this Super Bowl. Because a lot of people are taking the Chiefs. It's hard to pick against the Eagles, but it seems like you're, you're going to the Eagles.

[Victor Cruz]

Well, the first thing that I will say is, is since the Louisiana Purchase, we've actually legalized sports gambling in Louisiana. And one of the things is the Chiefs, the Chiefs aren't an underdog in this game.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Victor Cruz]

The Chiefs are a favorite. If the Chiefs were an underdog, I'd be scared.

[Billy Gill]

Okay, okay, wait.

[Victor Cruz]

What's question? Why the Eagles are going to win?

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Victor Cruz]

Well, it was. How do you get Louisiana purchasing job out of you? The Eagles are the more talented roster. If you go down the roster and you're like, besides quarterback and tight end and maybe, maybe even at D tackle, the Eagles have them now. They're better everywhere. They have more talent on the field. My biggest fear is the Chiefs have one man and, and one man. That has proven me wrong time and time again. It's Patrick Mahomes.

[Billy Gill]

It's team versus position. Yep. Greatest guy at the most important position. Sports. Yes.

[Victor Cruz]

Would you say San Francisco was a better team than the Chiefs last year, talent wise?

[Billy Gill]

I would say the Eagles two years ago were a better team than the Chiefs.

[Victor Cruz]

Right.

[Billy Gill]

But Patrick got it done.

[Victor Cruz]

And, and if it's a one possession game.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Victor Cruz]

I would not bet against Mahomes.

[Billy Gill]

Which is why Saquon respectfully, should not be the mvp. The quarterback position is just too important.

[Victor Cruz]

You're right.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Victor Cruz]

Maybe, maybe we need to take that out of it.

[Billy Gill]

Look at that.

[Victor Cruz]

Well, I, I, I don't think he's going to win. Like, I'm a realist. At the same time, I think he should win.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Victor Cruz]

But I think He. It's going to be. It's probably going to be Josh Allen.

[Billy Gill]

Okay. Billy is looking up things.

[Mikey A]

L.A. purchase, just to see, like, how much you should push this story.

[Victor Cruz]

Yeah, I appreciate that.

[Mikey A]

Quick. A very quick scan. Because I started out, I'm like, I think it's okay. It was from the friends and I'm going down. I'm like, I don't know about this.

[Victor Cruz]

Maybe it's like NFL player. Hey, I'm wearing the Canadian tuxedo. I'm sure I'm gonna get canceled for that. Then I'm gonna get canceled for the week. Like any history. Like, I just.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, stay away from history. Just talk some big.

[Billy Gill]

But you always have Mugsy, so promote him one more time on the way out, man. Mug.

[Victor Cruz]

Mugsy, we love you.

[Billy Gill]

You.

[Victor Cruz]

You've supported us throughout this entire journey as a big guy that's gotten small, right?

[Billy Gill]

As.

[Victor Cruz]

As someone whose wife bought low on their stock. If it wasn't for Mugsy, I'd never have jeans that fit. They got the four way stretch, they got the jackets.

[Billy Gill]

Look at you now.

[Victor Cruz]

Go get your Mugsy today. That's all I got to say.

[Billy Gill]

That's.

[Victor Cruz]

That's the last thing I'll say about that.

[Billy Gill]

We appreciate your time and enjoy the rest of the week, man.

[Victor Cruz]

All right, I'll be. I'll be back. No more history lessons.

[Billy Gill]

No, no, no, no. Weave it into every single interview you do today.

[Victor Cruz]

I actually am going to check in later in the day to make sure no one topped that one. If someone beats that, I'm gonna be pissed.

[Mikey A]

Look, this is what you're competing against. Against the Old Spice guy from the commercials that rides the horse has come and just sat down in that seat twice.

[Victor Cruz]

Really?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

He's wandering.

[Victor Cruz]

Did you guys know I was coming to hang out? Regardless, Mugsy came in and saved the day at the last minute. So I was going to lose money coming here today. And instead mugs like, Let us take care of that, all right? I was wearing Mugsy no matter what.

[Mikey A]

Tell Mugsy that you have some short friends over here that.

[Victor Cruz]

That want sleeveless denim jackets.

[Mikey A]

There you go.

[Billy Gill]

Exactly what we want. Look at us.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, Tom, we can work the Florida line for them.

[Victor Cruz]

We will start the Florida line. We get on the Bright line cruise down business cast. You zip off the pockets or the sleeves. You zip them off. Yeah, just in case.

[Mikey A]

I like that.

[Victor Cruz]

Just in case you got to go somewhere else and it's a little bit chilly.

[Billy Gill]

Are we playing golf down in West Palm? What are we doing?

[Victor Cruz]

I don't know the courses.

[Billy Gill]

I'll get you on a couple courses. All right. Well. Unbelievable. You are welcome back here anytime. Just sit in on anything you want the entire day.

[Victor Cruz]

I might just crash one later.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you.

[Mikey A]

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[Billy Gill]

Hi, I'm Lucy.

[Adam Pally]

Hey, Lucy. How's it going? Adam. Nice to meet you. Make sure I don't have wings in my teeth. You don't just smashed a handful of wings. They're giving out free wings over there.

[Mikey A]

Go like this. Bouncy wings.

[Billy Gill]

You seem way too excited about that. I mean, I love Radio Row. I love a convention center. I love super bowl week. But there are free wings everywhere. That's what Radio Ro is all about.

[Adam Pally]

This is what it's all about. This is why I got out of the biz right now.

[Billy Gill]

Here.

[Adam Pally]

Free wings.

[Billy Gill]

Are you enjoying your time here?

[Adam Pally]

It's so much fun, man. I, you know, I, I. This is the first time I've really done the Radio Row in, like, a real way. And it's a blast. I'm, I mean, I'm, I'm running on, like, two hours of sleep and with just 3,000 milligrams of caffeine.

[Billy Gill]

But they're giving out slime over there.

[Mikey A]

Oh, yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Do you want us to give you a choice? It's the greatest.

[Adam Pally]

This is why I got in the biz. Oh, come on.

[Mikey A]

Anywhere else.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, that's. That's. That is a goal of mine for my career is I want to get slimed. Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards.

[Billy Gill]

Right? You could, like, recreate it over there. They have enough little slime that I.

[Mikey A]

Think if you ask nicely, they'd let you do it.

[Billy Gill]

Listen, Adam, all your dreams can come true right here. It really.

[Adam Pally]

It really is.

[Billy Gill]

I'm.

[Adam Pally]

I'm a fit fluencer.

[Victor Cruz]

Now.

[Adam Pally]

This was a dream of mine.

[Mikey A]

Fit fluencer.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Fit fluencer.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

So I kind of. Yeah, I do it all. I act, I sing. I'm a fit fluencer. I'm working with a circle. I'm in a Super bowl commercial this year.

[Billy Gill]

Wow, look at that.

[Adam Pally]

Am I basically Shaq now? Basically, yeah.

[Mikey A]

More or less.

[Adam Pally]

Same stature and circle water. It's this incredible thing. You. You put the cartridge in and you're able to dial up the flavor. It's the number one selling homegoods item in Walmart's history.

[Billy Gill]

Can you believe that? Okay.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mikey A]

So in the.

[Billy Gill]

The. This is a master class of promotion right now.

[Mikey A]

He's not even here for them. He just loves circle so much.

[Billy Gill]

You know, we're not talking about football.

[Adam Pally]

We're talking about my circle commercial.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I'm delivering 100,000 circle water bottles on Super Bowl Sunday, so you might get a circle water at your doorstep.

[Mikey A]

Santa Claus.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

I'm exactly like Santa Claus and Shaq combined.

[Billy Gill]

Look at you, man.

[Adam Pally]

I'm incredible. We're really hyping me up.

[Cam Jordan]

Thanks.

[Billy Gill]

Well, you're doing it.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Are you a football fan?

[Adam Pally]

I am, yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Who's your favorite team?

[Adam Pally]

The Chiefs, which is an embarrassment of Too Easy, man. I'm from the Midwest. I'm from Omaha. It's right down the street, Kansas City. So I'm not. I'm not like a Die Hard, though, so I can't say I'm, like, fully in, but it would be incredible to see a three peat, you know?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. As an Omaha residence. What do you think of Council Bluffs?

[Adam Pally]

It's. They call it the armpit of America.

[Billy Gill]

It's awful.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's the worst. Yeah, it's the worst over there. But it's also so close to Omaha. That is basically Omaha.

[Billy Gill]

So it's so weird that you, like, cross and it's like, in a completely different world.

[Adam Pally]

That's right. It's Iowa. It's worse than okay.

[Billy Gill]

That's disrespectful.

[Adam Pally]

No, actually, I'd like Iowa. I'm from Waterloo.

[Billy Gill]

He loves Iowa. I went to the University of Iowa. We're all Hawkeyes here. We love Council Bluffs.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah. Of bluffs, isn't it?

[Stugots]

No, no, no, no.

[Billy Gill]

Why are you objecting to this? What's going on?

[Adam Pally]

Pounce of Bluffs, It's a terrible town.

[Mikey A]

Like everyone. You know where.

[Adam Pally]

You've heard of meth, right?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

That's where that comes from.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Meth seems to be big in the Midwest. I head into the Midwest. Meth is a big thing.

[Adam Pally]

That's. I don't know why. I think it's. We're. We're big in on, you know, we're crafty. We're a crafty people. You're able to make it yourself in a bathtub so that you guys go getters.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

It's like an arts and craft project.

[Mikey A]

Exactly.

[Adam Pally]

Could explode in your face.

[Mikey A]

Chemistry.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Had the how the super bowl commercial come about? It was fun.

[Adam Pally]

They. They reached out to me. They. They're like, who seems like the most hydrated man working in Hollywood?

[Billy Gill]

Yes, yes.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, they reached out to me. It was fun, man. Peter Berg directed it. He's a huge director, so that was cool. And I just love the, the premise, I thought was really fun. Fun and, you know, my chance to be in a Super bowl commercial and to align with my core values of being a fit fluencer. I'm like, I've got to do. I've got to do this.

[Mikey A]

When did you know that the fit fluencer life was for you? Well, I, you know, as a. As a young boy, one day when.

[Adam Pally]

I rolled this up and saw this.

[Billy Gill]

Oh boy, I was like, look at that.

[Adam Pally]

I gotta capitalize on this. This guy's jaw just dropped to the.

[Billy Gill]

Ground after seeing that. I mean, it was shocking. We didn't have you being that big.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, that's my only muscle is my right arm. I don't. I don't know why.

[Billy Gill]

I don't know why you're funny.

[Mikey A]

I don't know how to transition from that appropriately.

[Billy Gill]

There is no. He wanted it to be uncomfortable for you. And it sucks. Cuz I was going to ask you.

[Mikey A]

About your wife being in the Camp.

[Billy Gill]

Rock franchise and I feel like it.

[Mikey A]

Can'T go from that to a kids movie franchise.

[Billy Gill]

So I know that your wife was, you have to know, choice. Yeah. I'm so uncomfortable right now.

[Mikey A]

It's so rock and roll and it's so cool.

[Billy Gill]

And I do this for a living, so this. I feel really bad about my career choice right now, but I know your wife was in the Camp Rock franchise. You were in the Pitch Perfect franchise. So two, like, musical franchises.

[Mikey A]

Who do you think is the most.

[Billy Gill]

Intense, like, fan base out of those two?

[Adam Pally]

I don't know. Cambro. They're pretty wild. My, like, the girls will, like, be shaking when they meet my wife, which is pretty. Pretty insane. But for me, they will. They'll come up to me and just start singing at me, which is off putting.

[Billy Gill]

Dude, we have someone here who planned on coming up and singing to you.

[Mikey A]

And I said, let's not do that.

[Adam Pally]

Well, he can be offput by it.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, it's.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, it's not because I'm not a real singer. Like, I just got cast in the movie. I don't know what the hell I'm doing. So it is weird when someone will just come up to me and just start singing a song, and I. And I'm like, am I a judge on the Voice?

[Mikey A]

Do they want you to sing back? Like, is it a duet?

[Adam Pally]

They want to harmonize.

[Mikey A]

Okay.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

And I'm just collaborate. I'm not quite about that life.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

I'm tempted to have Rose come over here and sing to him.

[Mikey A]

No, you don't want that.

[Billy Gill]

She was like, I'm going to do it.

[Mikey A]

I was like, let's just.

[Billy Gill]

I know, but it's radio Row. It is super bowl week. I mean, this is good time to do it.

[Mikey A]

Let it fly. All right.

[Billy Gill]

I'm going to have her do it.

[Mikey A]

The thing about Rose, who works with us is she sings songs, but she doesn't know the worst any of the songs. So yesterday we were in the car and she was singing Country Roads by John Denver.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

But she didn't know it was Country Road. She thought that the song went Baton Rouge. So then she started.

[Adam Pally]

That's a different song. That's Fallen Baton Rouge.

[Mikey A]

No, no, she was singing Country Country Roads. Just saying Baton Rouge over and over again. Yeah. And then she was saying California and then just throwing in different states. She seems like she's heard of songs. Yeah. She's just not aware how any of the songs actually work together there.

[Billy Gill]

Let's.

[Adam Pally]

Yeah, put her on the spot.

[Billy Gill]

She's coming.

[Mikey A]

Rose, we need you to sing.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

Can you sing a little something?

[Mikey A]

Yes. Singing Bad and Rouge.

[Billy Gill]

So Rose here. Rose, go ahead and do it. You were planning on doing this anyway. Lucy said it was a bad idea.

[Mikey A]

Just so you know.

[Adam Pally]

I'M excited for this.

[Billy Gill]

This is what super bowl and Radio Rose all about. Rose, here's your big opportunity.

[Mikey A]

All right. Sing Baton Rouge.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Pally]

Baton Rouge. Please, please.

[Billy Gill]

Baton Rouge.

[Mikey A]

Oh, wow.

[Billy Gill]

Here we come. And you're talented. No, no, no, no. I do sing, but my voice is gone today.

[Mikey A]

Yeah, sorry.

[Cam Jordan]

That's it.

[Victor Cruz]

That's it.

[Billy Gill]

You know Baton Rouge isn't in California, right? No, I know, and we've been there. The thing is, don't you think it's an art when you create your own lyrics?

[Adam Pally]

No, it's.

[Mikey A]

If you're a songwriter. Yes. If you're a songwriter, when you're creating a song.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, I'm just recreating something, and I'm giving it my. My. My own.

[Adam Pally]

And what I love about you, Rose, is you were willing to just, come on, put it out there for the world to hear that beautiful song. And thank you for doing that.

[Billy Gill]

No, no, thank you. Thank you. Whenever you want, I. I can sing whenever.

[Mikey A]

No, this is it.

[Adam Pally]

If it's up to me, this would be the entire show. But it's not up to me. It's not up to me.

[Deuce McAllister]

There you go.

[Billy Gill]

Yesterday, I got a lot of compliments, and they were like, you have a.

[Cam Jordan]

Voice of an angel.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You really do.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Okay.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you for putting up with that.

[Chris Felica]

That was beautiful.

[Billy Gill]

Was it, Adam? Was it beautiful? Yeah.

[Adam Pally]

You knew when I said I was, it was off putting for me.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Adam Pally]

The opposite. With that. For whatever reason, Whatever reason, that just hit home.

[Billy Gill]

All right, one more time on the way out. Promote circle, what you're doing with them. You're an influencer, whatever you are.

[Adam Pally]

I'm a fit fluencer.

[Billy Gill]

I'm not an influencer. I'm sorry. My apology. Thank you.

[Adam Pally]

Like, I used to be an actor. This is what I do now.

[Billy Gill]

Okay. Okay.

[Adam Pally]

I mean, check it out. You're going to see it on the Super Bowl. It's. It's pretty incredible. Go to drink circle.com if you want a circle to be delivered at your house on Super Bowl Sunday.

[Billy Gill]

All right, man. This was a lot. This was a lot of fun. We appreciate it. Sorry about Rose, but I want to tell you something. I love you, man.

[Adam Pally]

Thanks, man.

[Billy Gill]

You got it. Want to say it back or I love you, too?

[Mikey A]

No, you forced that one.

[Billy Gill]

Asked you for it.

[Adam Pally]

Know.

[Billy Gill]

Well, you. You.

[Adam Pally]

You asked a little too soon. I was about to say it.

[Billy Gill]

All right.

[Adam Pally]

Pleasure, guys.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you, man.

[Mikey A]

Thank you.

[Billy Gill]

Appreciate it.

[Mikey A]

Is today your last day or you still have more to do?

[Billy Gill]

Last day. Last day. Billy Deuce. Is hosting this thing. Ah.

[Mikey A]

You know, been going since last Friday. Sometimes say, I'm Deuce McAllister. I'm going through Thursday, and that's it.

[Chris Felica]

It's just. And I was about to ask you, what is today actually, you know, it's right. It runs together, so. But it's good, though.

[Billy Gill]

They're all blending together for you.

[Chris Felica]

That's exactly right.

[Billy Gill]

I mean, Billy's right, though. You're Deuce McAllister. If you want to stop, pause, whatever you should be able to do.

[Chris Felica]

So, you know, it's good, though.

[Billy Gill]

I mean, it works out. It works out. It seems like the super bowl is really, like, it's really wearing on you. I got to be honest, Dud.

[Chris Felica]

Oh, well, I mean, one, you still have family, and so my, my, My kids, they still have school, so you.

[Billy Gill]

Have all that to deal with, right? Yes.

[Chris Felica]

And so a lot of my buddies that are in town, they're like, you know, hey, let's go hang out. Hang out. Hey, look, man, I got carpool in the morning or I gotta go grab my kids. And so, you know, it's just like, oh, right, yeah.

[Deuce McAllister]

You.

[Billy Gill]

You.

[Chris Felica]

You stay here. That's exactly right.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

So we're from Miami, and the last time the super bowl was in Miami was in 2020. And of all the Super Bowls that we've covered, I've told people, I was like, that was the least fun because when everyone comes to your hometown, they want you to go out and do this and do that. It's like, if we're traveling, like, that's fine, because all my responsibilities stayed at home.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Mikey A]

When it's a home Super Bowl, I still have to take out the trash on Tuesdays. I still have to do everything. I have to go home, I have to eat dinner. Like, I can't be out until 2 in the morning. Going and socializing with people. That's not real life.

[Billy Gill]

Kindred spirits, the two of you. Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

And.

[Chris Felica]

And people don't understand, and they're thinking like, wait, what do you mean? I was like, yes, this is what I have to do.

[Billy Gill]

It's really life.

[Chris Felica]

You know, they don't stop it just because, hey, the super bowl is here. It's still. I. I was telling you, I mean, you got carpool, I got. They got activities that they got to get to and from. And, you know. Yes. You have other means to be able to do it, but it's just like, I can't disappear for a week.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Chris Felica]

Because, you know, the responsibilities, man. Yeah, they, they, they, they like that. Well, are you coming to my game or are you taking me to practice? Well, I'll be at one of them. I can't maybe do both of them.

[Billy Gill]

Wait, so what kind of pickup guy are you, like, in terms of. Are you. Are you a guy who gets to the. To the school like, an hour earlier than you probably should, so you could be first in line, or are you getting there late?

[Chris Felica]

No, I'm probably the late person as.

[Billy Gill]

Far as getting to the school. Really?

[Chris Felica]

Yeah, it's just. Really, you have some that are there, and it's like, there's no way that you can just sit here 45 minutes before school even gets out just to be first in line. I mean, it's like, I'd rather go in and check them out early than maybe to go in and sometimes just wait and wait and wait until. Yeah, it gets in. Interesting.

[Mikey A]

I feel like you need to treat it more like football. You need to get yourself some, like, blocker parents that they go and they, like, clog up the different lines for you, and then, boom, you just sneak. You know, pick up, gap and.

[Billy Gill]

And.

[Chris Felica]

And. And most parents do particularly that pick their. Their kids up. It's a social event.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

For. For.

[Chris Felica]

For some parents. And so it's. It's like, hey, we got a job to do. It's. It's get in, get the pickup, and move. But, no, that does not happen.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

If I'm being honest, there should be a special spot for Deuce's kids where he. Only. He has access to your deuce McAllister.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah, no, they. That. It doesn't work like that.

[Billy Gill]

You're here with us on behalf of the NFL Alumni association on 3 weight health hike campaign. Tell us about that.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah, it's a pretty. Pretty unique campaign, and it's really, you know, about the health of not only former players, but, you know, individuals in general. And so a lot of times we get caught up in the hustle and the bustle as far as going, and you kind of forget, hey, you know, my health is important as well. And you hear the phrase health is wealth, and, you know, I think that's definitely important. And so just for a lot of the former athletes, not being afraid, not being ashamed, even myself, living in this great city of New Orleans, I've gotten in trouble of eating too much and, you know, not exercising and taking care of yourself, but, you know, just trying to encourage not only former players, but individuals in general that there is an opportunity to be able to go out there and be healthy and, you know, Just make sure that they're taking care of themselves. And so there's a couple of, obviously, you have some different things, programs out there, and, you know, just being able to have that. That circle of trust, so to speak, and sometimes individuals just to push you a little bit to say, hey, look, man, you know, let's go walking or let's. Let's go talk. And then so just. Just to have that encouragement. And so the NFL Alumni association, you can go to the website and check out some of the things that they have, and it's just really taking care of yourself a little bit better.

[Mikey A]

This seems like a tough city to eat healthy in.

[Billy Gill]

It can be.

[Mikey A]

Every place you go, people are like, you gotta eat here, you gotta eat there.

[Billy Gill]

You know, dude, what happens is I try one spot, right? And then I. And so. And I'm full. And then I walk like, four spots down and I'm like, man, I wanna try that thing. And I do.

[Chris Felica]

You did one positive thing there by walking there.

[Mikey A]

I mean, because when you jump in.

[Chris Felica]

The car, when you jump in the car, it's like, hey, you know, you didn't burn anything off. But at least if you walk it off a little bit, you can kind of. I don't want to call it tricking yourself.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Chris Felica]

But knowing that you're getting some type of exercise in. And, and you're.

[Victor Cruz]

You're correct.

[Chris Felica]

We do have a little bit better options, but I mean, a little bit. And that's part of the problem. I mean, we can create ways, like. Wait, you're cooking at how? We can create ways of dishes to be able to make them tastes a little bit different. And, and so that's why I said, I get in trouble, I get in trouble. And so it's something that you have to stay up on.

[Billy Gill]

Deuce, you are a great, great running back. And I'm wondering, as a former great NFL running back, when you watch Saquan Mar Barkley, are you in awe of him? Like, what's. What, what's happening there for you?

[Chris Felica]

N. You're, You're, You're. You're happy that he's getting to showcase it.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Chris Felica]

I mean, because you. You saw it going back, even that's not being wasted. Well, yeah, I mean, just. Just because now, on a national level, sure, people kind of see, like, man, this player is pretty good.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

You know, and not to say that that wasn't happening in New York, but, you know, if you don't go to consistent playoffs, people kind of say, ah, you know, he's. He Had a good year, but he hadn't done it consistently. And so for him to be able to put it together and kind of what he went through with New York, having to go to the Eagles and being in this position and it's, it hadn't just been a regular season situation, it's been something that he's done in the playoffs as well. And so to get to the second and third level and have those explosive plays, I think that speaks to the offensive line, because that, that, that, that's definitely a part of it. But then as well, he's got to make people miss. He's got to be able to break tackles, and he's been able to do it, you know, so far in his playoffs.

[Billy Gill]

The, the running back of the running game in general has made a resurgence this past year. It was kind of down for a while, but I'm sure you're happy to see it come back, right? It's, it's, it's as important as ever now in the NFL to have a running game.

[Chris Felica]

Well, in the NFL, it's ebbs and flows as well. So a lot of times defenses were taking away. You know, you were seeing eight in the box. But, you know, with, with the evolution of the passing game and the high, high, high numbers as far as passing yards, you know, you see defenses say, hey, look, you're going to have to run the ball, and you may not be built to run the football, and you had a commitment from the offensive coordinator to say, hey, look, we can turn around, we can give it to the backs, and the backs have been able to make it pay off. And so I'm happy for it. And to those guys, you're going to have to do it again. Because I don't think that one year proves that having an elite run game for those OCs to say, hey, look, we need to invest back in it. I still think this is a passing league, and you, you have to have a quarterback to be able to win in this league. But to be able to see some of the success that the backs this year have had has been impressive.

[Billy Gill]

Deuce, we really appreciate the time. You're a good man. NFL Alumni association on three. Weight health. Hike. Tell us one more time here on the way out. You're almost there, man. It's almost over. The entire week.

[Mikey A]

Okay.

[Chris Felica]

I mean, it hadn't been too bad. It's always good to see former players that you played with and even some of the current guys just to encourage them and tell them, you know, to keep pushing on. But you know, for us, just encouraging guys, particularly our athletes that have retired, that from a health standpoint, to make sure that you're taking care of yourself, because health is wealth, and without that body, it's. It's hard to be able to do some of the things that you like to do and you take the hits. But at the same time, if you're not healthy enough to be able to play with your kids when they have stuff going on, on, that's kind of what it's about. And so, you know, just making sure that we know that message and we can kind of lean on that message.

[Billy Gill]

You felt like you got out at the right time. Body wise, Physically, you feel good?

[Chris Felica]

Oh, I mean, no. I, I'm, I'm fine. I know there are a lot of guys that either played with me or before me that, that may not be in that same position. And so, you know, from. I, I was probably me and a lot of guys, hey, if I could have got in this new cba, yeah, it'll be a lot different. I mean, the two A days are. I don't want to. They don't have them anymore.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Chris Felica]

I mean, you, you, you look at the padded practice. It's all monitored. Yes, and, and, and that kind of hurts the game as well. I mean, because from a fundamental standpoint, you don't get to do some of that stuff. And so it's, it's all regulated by the new cba.

[Billy Gill]

I only, I only honed in on that because Jason. Jason Kelce, who I think wishes he were playing because he beat another Super Bowl. He was. He was fighting that decision. Do I come back and play? Do I want to be able to pick up my kids and my grandkids later in life? And he obviously chose to. To retire.

[Chris Felica]

So mentally, he can still do it. Yeah, it's physical.

[Billy Gill]

Physically. Yes, it's physically. And whether or not it's worth it, you know, in the end. Yeah. Deuce. We appreciate it, man. You're a great host.

[Chris Felica]

Thank you.

[Mikey A]

No problem.

[Chris Felica]

Thank you, guys.

[Billy Gill]

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[Billy Gill]

What'd you get in?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I got in yesterday, but I, I put. I was at the Pro bowl last week, so I've been. I've been from the Orlando straight down to here, so it's on a little bender right now, so I gotta, you know.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, you. Really crazy time. I want to hear more about the bender. No, no, it's.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

It was a lot of fun, man. Just being here. Being here at super bowl is so much fun.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Billy, were you going in on the Pro bowl games? I thought that's where you were going.

[Mikey A]

I love. I love the Pro bowl games.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

It's so much fun.

[Mikey A]

Yeah. That's all.

[Billy Gill]

That's all. No, I think they're weird, but he. Somehow.

[Mikey A]

He loves that I.

[Billy Gill]

The Pro games.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

No, the pro. The Pro bowl is fun, man. I can see how. How the, the people hate it, but it is what it is.

[Mikey A]

Do you hate. You can't hate it.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

No, I. I actually enjoyed it. I mean, it's my first one ever, so just being around these guys, it was. It was a joy.

[Mikey A]

It's like field day. Field day for you guys.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

You're like jumping on things, catching things with crazy gloves and then. And then you get a little flag football at the end.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Finish it all up.

[Billy Gill]

Right. But it's not the Pro Bowl. You grew up watching. It's. Yeah. Is. Is the larger point. Yes.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

You don't see the. None of that.

[Billy Gill]

That's what I'm talking about. Yes. Yeah.

[Deuce McAllister]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Sean Taylor hitting the punter. Because Sean Taylor was always playing football.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, no switch for him.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. What do you do? We have these beautiful hats here. Man, what are you doing with Brandon Bill?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, Brandon Bill's the great hat company. They're based out of Arizona, right in my backyard. But the, the customization of the hat is what I think is cool. You, you can put whatever logo you want, make your own logo, put it on there and, and order, you know, anywhere from 12 to as many as you want. And it's going to take, you know, a couple weeks to get to super quick, super efficient and great quality. They're, they're golf hats too, if you like to golf. They're in 3,000 different pro shops all over the country. And it's just a great, great hat company. Great quality and they do everything the right way.

[Billy Gill]

It just dawned on me as you were saying that if you like to golf, you look like a golfer. Like I'm. You're scratch golfer.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Not a scratch, but I'm a good, I'm a decent golfer, but I'm not. I'm trying to get to scratch, man. It's hard to be a scratch golf.

[Billy Gill]

What's your handicap?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I'm like a 10, so I'm not.

[Billy Gill]

How long have you been playing, though?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I just started when I got to Arizona.

[Billy Gill]

I hate you guys. Victor Cruz came on. I mean, no, I've been playing my entire life. I'm like a 20. Victor Cruz started three years ago and he's a 10 already.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, that's about what I did. I've been in the NFL for three years, so I about played for three years now and never taken a lesson, man. I just go out there and swim, swing the. Swing the damn golf club.

[Mikey A]

Life's so easy for you.

[Billy Gill]

What else comes easy?

[Mikey A]

Yeah, what's hard for you?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

You know this football thing, man, trying to catch, catch the ball and not get tackled. That's kind of hard.

[Mikey A]

But you were a Pro Bowler. You did just fine.

[Billy Gill]

The thing you actually do for a living. That's what comes on. Come on.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

No, but there's a lot of good things, man. I, I love Arizona. There's a golf course on every, every corner in Arizona, so it's hard not to get good at golf there.

[Deuce McAllister]

So.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, there is TPC Scottsdale. You play it?

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

There's a way management's going on right now.

[Billy Gill]

I know. I'm surprised you're here. It's a bigger party over there.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

No, this is, this is way more fun than that, so.

[Billy Gill]

No doubt about it. Travis Kelce. You watch him. Do you see what is the greatest tight end of all time?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, I think he's tremendous, man. The, the, the. His ability to get open and find different zones is so cool to watch. And I just love taking any bits and pieces I can from him, man. He's such a tremendous athlete.

[Billy Gill]

Who are some of the other guys you, you kind of grew up watching where you try to pattern your game after, after to them?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

You know, I'm, I'm a, I'm from Colorado, man, so I'm a Shannon Sharp guy, Broncos guy, man. Shannon Sharp was a huge. I was a huge fan of him. But, you know, George Kittle's another guy I love watching. Mark Andrews is a stud. And yes, TJ Hawkinson's another really good tight end, man. There's so many great guys right now.

[Billy Gill]

There really are.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

It's so, it's so much fun because the, the, the, the, the position's changing and it's evolving and it's cool to be a huge part of that as well.

[Billy Gill]

It is. I think Billy was trying to convince people that Kittle might be the best tight end of all time. Is that what you were saying? No.

[Mikey A]

Hold on a second.

[Billy Gill]

No, no, no, no, no. He's great. We love Jordan.

[Mikey A]

This is my, this is my argument for George Kittle, okay? When you think of the greatest tight ends ever, man, this is Radio Row. There's. There's Cam Jordan just running around on a scooter in the middle of the.

[Billy Gill]

That's what it's all about, man.

[Mikey A]

Very distracting.

[Billy Gill]

We love it here, man. This is, there's, there's so much stimuli here.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, I know. Look at this.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

So this is my argument, okay? Rob Grencal. So. And it's.

[Billy Gill]

Look at him. He's doing an interview.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

No, cancel.

[Billy Gill]

Larry.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Look at him behind us now, man, riding on the scooter.

[Billy Gill]

So good. Billy lost a trans. So.

[Mikey A]

Rob Rowski, Travis Kelly, everybody says greatest tight ends ever, right?

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Mikey A]

Who has George Kle had throwing him.

[Billy Gill]

The ball over these past years?

[Mikey A]

Because you don't have Patrick Mahomes, you don't have Tom Brady.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

That's. That's funny you say that. But you know what? George Georgia is a really good tight end. And his, his ability to, to catch the ball and get yards after catch is, Is some of the best I've ever seen.

[Mikey A]

Half the time they're using him to block.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah. And he's in. And he's in there blocking his.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Butt off, man. He's a great run blocker and he does everything the right way, man. I love. I get to play against him twice a year, every year. So it's so much fun to compete against him.

[Billy Gill]

Are you going to the game?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, I'll be at the game with the Walter Payton man of the year stuff. I'm super excited to. To be a proud a part of that and to be at the game this Sunday, man, it's going to be so much fun.

[Billy Gill]

If you weren't going to the game, how would you experience the game?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I'd be sitting on my couch, you know, making some. Some wings, some burgers, some. A bunch of food. And I'm just going to be sitting there enjoying it all and, and watching the game.

[Billy Gill]

You would do 18 and then, you know.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, yeah, maybe get 18 start. Right. I'm over in Arizona, so we're back a couple hours, so I'm going to get 18 in and then probably get a, you know, watch the game. Yeah.

[Mikey A]

What can you tell us about Nick Rollace, your defensive coordinator? Coordinator? Because we, we regularly have his brother Mike roll us on the show.

[Billy Gill]

I know, it sounds odd, right?

[Mikey A]

Yeah. We have a restaurant every week. Mike Rollis, Nick Rollis's brother. And he picks football games, obviously, as you do with a former professional wrestler. And, and he would kind of get mad at us sometimes because we would get on his brother because there's a, there's a stretch there. We're giving up a little bit of points, but then you guys got right back on track and honestly, we're pretty good towards the end of the year. So what do you think about Nick Ro?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I think he's a really good coordinator. Him and JG are kind of in lockstep together, but I always give him a hard time. I said, man, you can't find a guy you can't scheme it up to. Cover me over there on, on defense, man. Can. Can you find someone that can. That can. But no, Nick. Nick's a great guy, man. He does everything the right way and I love, I love playing against him every single day in practice. But I really think the. He's a great coordinator and the defense is going to make a huge step.

[Mikey A]

He's also like 30 years old or something, which is it insane.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

It's crazy how my la. I had a tight end that played with him in college and it was like they were roommates in college and he was still in the NFL and Nick was a coordinator. I'm like, what in the world? This is. This is insane.

[Mikey A]

Crazy how.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Coaches are.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, no, Nick's a great, great coach and I'm excited to see where he takes the defense next year.

[Billy Gill]

Did your brother Go to Colorado.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, he went to Colorado State.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Not Colorado.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, not Colorado. You don't really.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Yeah, we're calling. They're the rival school, man. We don't. We don't. You know, we don't like those guys.

[Billy Gill]

But Dion. Are you surprised? Like, Dion's doing this?

[Malcolm Jenkins]

No, I think it's really cool, actually.

[Billy Gill]

Colorado was the worst football program in America before he got there.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

And then I really do think it's cool to see what the. The change that he's done, the. The recruits that he's brought in, and he's really changed the whole dynamic of college football. And it's. It's really cool to see, but I am. I am a fan of what they're doing over there, but I just wish it was at a different school besides Colorado.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, I understand that. Is Kyler Murray probably the greatest athlete you've ever seen? Yeah, man.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

A guy. You think about this, A guy who was first overall pick in football. He was ninth overall pick in baseball. And he's good at everything he does. You play ping pong, he's good. You want to play chess, he's good. You want to do this?

[Billy Gill]

I hate that guy.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

He's so good at everything. It's like, God dang, man, can we beat you at something? Like, he's just good at everything.

[Billy Gill]

If you play 18 against him right now, I'm getting him.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I don't think. Yeah, I don't think he's hitting the ball.

[Billy Gill]

I would be surprised, though. You're right. Baseball player. You're right.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[Billy Gill]

All right, one more. One more time here. We appreciate your time, my man. Brandon, Bill. On the way out.

[Mikey A]

These look like good water hats.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

They actually float.

[Billy Gill]

I like the air.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

If you drop it in the water, I'm pretty sure it floats.

[Billy Gill]

What I like is the ventilation right here. Yeah.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

And it's hot in Arizona, so you need that to cool your head down. Yeah.

[Mikey A]

And by the way, there's only one way to learn if they float or not. Just buy a bunch of them and then test it for yourself.

[Billy Gill]

There you go.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

And if it. And then if it doesn't come back.

[Mikey A]

If it doesn't float, talk to someone else. Not usually.

[Billy Gill]

I think we just promoted it together. Unless you want to do it one more time, feel free.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I like that. That's good.

[Billy Gill]

That's all right, man. We appreciate the time. Enjoy the. Enjoy the rest of your time down here. And good luck with the golf game moving forward. I want to play you sometime.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for having me on.

[Mikey A]

All right.

[Billy Gill]

I love you, man.

[Malcolm Jenkins]

I love you too.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you, brother. I appreciate it, man. Look at you walking around here. No sponsors, just being Gerald McCoy.

[Gerald McCoy]

Love and joy, that's all I want to do. I'm sorry that I couldn't get Yalls day started with a lot of spark this morning, but midday, which I need.

[Billy Gill]

Need. Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

Like a Celsius or a five hour energy. You need that shock to get you going. I'm like the NOS button in Fast and Furious.

[Chris Felica]

Movie, huh?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

Feel me?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, yeah, we do feel you.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Billy Gill]

I just want you to keep going. Go.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah, that's why I'm here, baby.

[Mikey A]

Afternoon, pick me up because you're right. It's good to start.

[Billy Gill]

You're like a shot of coffee.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

Listen, I'm telling you, I work on network TV now. We got an eight hour show on Sunday, right. And four hours in. I know, I'm. Oh, my gosh. We have those six hour days when we have the London games and you need that. That's all I'm trying to.

[Billy Gill]

You need you. Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

That's all I'm trying to do.

[Billy Gill]

You give them like a speech halfway through, like, let's go. Not today. Tell your body not today. Let's go.

[Gerald McCoy]

Big claps from a big body. Let's get it.

[Mikey A]

All right.

[Billy Gill]

I love that Batman necklace, man.

[Gerald McCoy]

Oh, thanks, man.

[Billy Gill]

I'm a nerd.

[Gerald McCoy]

I'm an open nerd.

[Billy Gill]

Really? Yeah. Give us ways. I think people would have a hard. A hard time believing that you're a nerd.

[Gerald McCoy]

No, I am, man.

[Billy Gill]

You're a nerd at heart.

[Gerald McCoy]

I'm a true nerd.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

No, no.

[Billy Gill]

It's not a game to me.

[Gerald McCoy]

It's not a game to me. Yeah, I do this. I have a 6,5 Batman in my man cave in the. In Tampa.

[Billy Gill]

Do you really?

[Gerald McCoy]

My whole man cave is comic books and. Oh, yeah.

[Mikey A]

What's the. What's the limit for your nerd dump? Like there has to be a.

[Gerald McCoy]

Okay, so there's. There is limits to my nerdom.

[Billy Gill]

I want to stay right here, by the way, the entire time. You being nerd.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah. There's limits to my nerdom, so I have to spread it. Can't just be full nerd to where I can like indulge because I have to take the studying of my nerd on. The studying portion of my nerdom has to go to my career, which is football and being an analyst and stuff. However, everybody has interest in hobbies.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

And that's mine, man.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Gerald McCoy]

I love it.

[Mikey A]

But do you have a line like, is there anything you won't buy? Because we saw Batmobile were on sale this year.

[Gerald McCoy]

I actually was bidding on a Tim Burton 1989 Batmobile. I put it on hold and somebody came and stole it from me. But I was one of those people.

[Billy Gill]

Wait a second. Wait. How does that work, though? If you put it on hold, how can someone steal it?

[Victor Cruz]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

Because I. What they did is they said, we're going to put you at the top of the list.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Gerald McCoy]

Because nobody was bidding on it.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Gerald McCoy]

And they said, we're going to. You know, if you fly out to Arizona, we'll walk you through. You can, you know, walk through. We'll even let you test driving and all that. It was mid season. I didn't have time to just up and go to Arizona.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

So.

[Victor Cruz]

Right.

[Gerald McCoy]

Oh, you know, season starts to end and I hit the guy up. I'm like, hey, you know, here we go. It's about that time. He's like, oh, we sold it, y'all. I'm like, well, dang. You could have text me like, hey, right?

[Billy Gill]

Give me a heads up.

[Gerald McCoy]

You got five minutes.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. You know, anything, right?

[Mikey A]

You could have come in a bye week or whatever.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But I was big getting on it, and it wasn't as expensive, if you think, man. What they usually do is they take a Corvette body, right. And they just build around it. And you know, it's street legal. They make it street legal.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

And you got to check the laws of. Where you at In Texas, it is legal to drive a Batmobile.

[Mikey A]

So hold on a second now. You have to wait till another Batmobile becomes available because the ones from the Dark Knight were crazy. Like $3 million. That's.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah, everybody has that. There's levels to everybody, everything.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Gerald McCoy]

Levels to toys, too.

[Mikey A]

The street legal is also an important part of this because, like, $3 million.

[Gerald McCoy]

Car that you can't.

[Mikey A]

You can't drive it anywhere. When you have like a ranch with like 40 acres, you can't drive that anywhere.

[Gerald McCoy]

I will say something that was cool, though. LA Kith clothing brand Kith K I T H okay. They had a Batman collab, right? Where they had Batman Forever, the car from Batman Forever, Tim Burton's Batman, man. And they had the Tumblr, that one that's on sale. They had models of them all out, which was pretty cool, man. I got a chance to go see that. They had every Batman Suit from every movie.

[Billy Gill]

Really?

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah. They had them encased in the originals. It was. It was pretty cool.

[Billy Gill]

Where'd your love of Batman come from?

[Gerald McCoy]

I grew up. I don't know, man. I grew up loving Batman.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

I grew up loving Batman. And as a kid, the first Batman tapes.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

Tapes. Hey, new generation generation are we talking about, man?

[Mikey A]

There's the one where they're the sharks.

[Billy Gill]

That.

[Mikey A]

It was helicopter.

[Billy Gill]

He's talking Adam West, I think. Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

Watch this, watch this. See this?

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Gerald McCoy]

This is how I know.

[Billy Gill]

Right?

[Gerald McCoy]

My nerdism.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

It's legit.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Gerald McCoy]

Children. These things called vhs.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

Oh, tapes. Used to put in this thing called a vcr.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

You know, and before.

[Billy Gill]

What are you saying? Yup. You never had a VCR before.

[Gerald McCoy]

You can, you know, basically be in the movie. They had these black and white films. The very first Batman tapes I had were black and white films. They came out in, like, the 50s. Yeah. And it was Batman. Him and Robin used to get dressed in, like, the back of this mob car, and then they pop out and fight. They didn't have nothing.

[Billy Gill]

They upgraded to a can. Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

Then they upgraded. Then we got Adam west, and then we went from there. So my love for Batman and people was like, well, why so much I relate to Batman? Because if you go look at my combine numbers, they're not. You know, we got. The NFL produces mutants. There's Miles Garrett and Aaron Donalds walking around, and Xavier Worthy, he's the Flash and all this other stuff. My numbers were not great, but I was drafted third overall, and it was because of my preparation, outworking everybody and my knowledge of the game. And that's who Batman is.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

He's around all these superpower people.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Gerald McCoy]

But he has no power.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

He's kind of a rich guy that. He has a lot of cool tools.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah. But he's also the captain of a team of superpower beings.

[Mikey A]

Right.

[Gerald McCoy]

Billy, are you saying he doesn't have a superpower?

[Billy Gill]

Billy, be very careful, okay? I just want to be clear. Are you saying Batman is overrated?

[Mikey A]

No, I didn't say that. I'm not being uncareful.

[Gerald McCoy]

I've heard that.

[Mikey A]

We're just having a conversation. Let me ask you something. When we're talking about vcrs.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Mikey A]

Is there. Is there something that you. I think everybody had this experience with VCR where you have something that you had recorded on VCR and then it got taped over.

[Billy Gill]

Yes, I had it. Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

Well, I didn't. I didn't have anything taped over. Me. I did the taping over.

[Mikey A]

Oh, no.

[Gerald McCoy]

My mom was a big soap opera fan. Days of our Lives.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, my God. Of course there's.

[Gerald McCoy]

Okay, so one day I want to.

[Billy Gill]

Wait, so she taped it every day? Yeah. Okay. She made us tape it, set the timer.

[Mikey A]

The whole deal is very tricky.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

So one day I want to act. And I told my acting coach and my agent, if you don't get me in nothing else. My mom passed away when I was 19. I don't care if I'm sitting at a table. I don't care if I'm the janitor, anything. If you get me on Days of our Lives, yes, that will be my acting dream. It was my mom's favorite show.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, my gosh.

[Gerald McCoy]

And freaking incredible. And I remember one time I taped over her and she was a key part in the story. And then next thing you know, Batman animated series pops up and she like. Wait, hold on.

[Billy Gill]

How disappointing.

[Gerald McCoy]

I know, I know, I know.

[Billy Gill]

Tell her that storyline is still going on today. I know.

[Gerald McCoy]

Crazy, man.

[Billy Gill]

Well, I know, but you know what I mean. Yes. Yeah. It's insane.

[Gerald McCoy]

So. It's crazy.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you for being.

[Mikey A]

I don't know if I actually saw Stephen. Yeah, so. So he was over here.

[Gerald McCoy]

He came in and then Cam just walked past.

[Mikey A]

Well, he. Well, he was in a soap opera. I think it was in General Hospital.

[Billy Gill]

He is. He's still in it.

[Mikey A]

Yes, he's a recurring character. They'll use him like once every year.

[Gerald McCoy]

Stephen A is. Yeah, Stephen A.

[Mikey A]

No, he plays, I believe, a detective.

[Gerald McCoy]

Oh, wow.

[Mikey A]

And I think he has like a name. I think it's like, I want to.

[Gerald McCoy]

Play like the young young. Like secret boyfriend.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Really?

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah. This random young.

[Mikey A]

We gotta get this random.

[Gerald McCoy]

This random 65 year old white lady is like sleeping with this 36 year old black dude with dreads. Where'd that come from? It don't matter. It's so popular.

[Mikey A]

I feel like they haven't covered that storyline yet.

[Gerald McCoy]

I'm just saying we. We come up with all these storylines, that'll be a new one for so far. Opera.

[Billy Gill]

Who do you consider to be the best Batman of all time?

[Gerald McCoy]

Michael Keaton, without question. There's no argument for me, Michael, and I will not accept an argument.

[Billy Gill]

Really?

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Jack Nicholson as the Penguin. Did that do it for you?

[Gerald McCoy]

Joker.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, the Joker. My bad. Sorry. I'm not a Batman.

[Victor Cruz]

Door.

[Billy Gill]

He is. That's.

[Gerald McCoy]

Why was the Penguin.

[Billy Gill]

That's right.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah. Yeah, Penguin was. He was good, though. But Colin Farrell, man, he just killed it as the Penguin. That's why he got all those Emmys and all those awards, right?

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

But, yeah, Michael Keaton, Jack Nicholson is the Joker. Him and Heath Ledger, they.

[Billy Gill]

But too much Joker stuff, right? Like, you know, we get it. Too many different.

[Gerald McCoy]

It's never too much Joker stuff. Yeah, it's different iterations, man. Things you got to have.

[Mikey A]

You like all the different iterations. Like, you like the Penguin. The Penguin show. I haven't seen it. I don't know if it's for me, but it's winning all of these awards.

[Gerald McCoy]

Just because it's not about. You don't know that Batman is involved until literally. Literally the very last second of the show. And then the show goes off. They don't bring a Batman, Bruce Wayne, no other villain. Nothing's like a mob show. It's like a really good mob show. It's like Sopranos.

[Mikey A]

Okay.

[Gerald McCoy]

Seriously, it's just like a good mob show, but if you know who the character is, then you'll say, oh, yeah, this is the Penguin.

[Mikey A]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

But it's not. They don't even call. They make fun of him saying Penguin, but they call him Oswald the whole show.

[Mikey A]

So it's just a background for him.

[Gerald McCoy]

It's just a great year. Yep.

[Mikey A]

Nice. Nice.

[Deuce McAllister]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Is there anything else you dork out to? The way you dork out to Batman? Nerd out, I should say.

[Gerald McCoy]

Nerd out.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

I don't know, like, nerd out to anything else. Like, I just. I'm. I'm a gamer, but in moderation. I love combat sports, but other than that, nah, man. It's just collective whatever goes into being a nerd. Video games, Ninja Turtles, Mortal Kombat, stuff like that, you know, but not really nerd out to anything else.

[Billy Gill]

How has the transition been? Do you. Do you enjoy the broadcasting?

[Gerald McCoy]

I do, yeah. I do. It keeps you around the game, right? And the same way I used to prepare for football games, I have to do for network tv, and I went to a broadcast boot camp, and they told us, if you don't do the work, they'll know. So being two years in, the best compliment I can get is people saying, we see your growth. Which is proof that I'm doing the work. And. And I just want to keep growing in the business, and what happens is. Which I want to talk about is athletes. We are under such structure. Wake up. This time, meetings. This time, practice. This time, lunch is cooked for you. Breakfast is cooked for you. Depending on how late you are, you might can take a plate to go home. Then you got your Traveling and all this stuff is done for you, and then it just stops. Yeah, that's tough on the mind. Of course, people are not praising you anymore. You're not put on this pedestal and all that. And guys struggle with what to do to fill that time or that void. I was blessed enough to be ushered right into my next career so I didn't have to deal with that. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of athletes struggle with that. I was just blessed enough to not have to.

[Billy Gill]

That's awesome, man. What is a broadcast boot camp? Like? What is. What is that?

[Gerald McCoy]

They teach you the ins and outs of what to expect. So they literally taught us. They gave. Gave us an introduction, gave us examples. Hey, this is what we do here. You could be on the radio. You can do podcasting, you can be an in studio analyst, you can call games. All these different things, right? You go through these classes and then they put you through a simulation of every facet of media, whatever it is, and they record it. And then right after they record it, you sit down and they tell you what you did right, what you did it wrong. And then from there, people recruit you. You know, my class. Me, Richard Sherman, Cam Hayward.

[Billy Gill]

Wow.

[Gerald McCoy]

Both the McCor.

[Billy Gill]

Man, that's a house. Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

We had a great class, right?

[Billy Gill]

And you're saying, like, if they tell you, hey, if you're not putting the prep in, we're going to notice, right?

[Gerald McCoy]

We will know.

[Billy Gill]

Because I've been doing it for 20 years and no one has noticed. Oh, they notice. I just don't care that they notice. Yeah. All right. We appreciate you, man. Thanks, brother. Enjoy the rest of your week.

[Gerald McCoy]

Thanks, man.

[Mikey A]

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