Good Follow - All Eyes Are On The WNBA Right Now, Caitlin Clark Stands With Napheesa Collier, WNBA Finals & More!

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz: "Good Follow – All Eyes Are On The WNBA Right Now, Caitlin Clark Stands With Napheesa Collier, WNBA Finals & More!"

Date: October 2, 2025
Hosts: Roz Gold-Onwude and Angel McCoughtry (Good Follow segment)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Good Follow" zeroes in on the unprecedented spotlight currently fixed on the WNBA. Hosts Roz Gold-Onwude and five-time WNBA All-Star Angel McCoughtry dive into the impact of high-profile commentary on the league, unified player action during a pivotal contract negotiation moment, and the storylines driving the upcoming WNBA Finals between the Phoenix Mercury and Las Vegas Aces. Special attention is paid to the tone and source of increased attention, leadership critiques, the significance of Caitlin Clark’s statements, and an enthusiastic breakdown of both Finals teams.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Surge of Attention on the WNBA

[03:32–04:45; 04:45–13:06]

• Roz observes a recent influx of major media commentators discussing the WNBA—many for the first time or after long absences. She frames this as a double-edged sword: while attention is positive, much of the mainstream discourse is inflammatory or superficial.
  • Roz: "People are talking about the WNBA that have not talked about the WNBA either before or in a very long time. I guess all of this attention is good, good attention. I don't know. We'll discuss it." [03:32]

Sampling the Mainstream Takeover

• Audio clips from "First Take," Skip Bayless, and Dave Portnoy:

  • Mad Dog Chris Russo critiques Cheryl Reeve harshly, despite admitting a lack of regular watching.
  • Skip Bayless offers hypotheticals about Caitlin Clark while ignoring on-court developments.
  • Stephen A. Smith calls for WNBA Commissioner Cathy Engelbert’s resignation after public criticism by Nafessa Collier.
  • Dave Portnoy boasts he’d be a better commissioner, suggesting lack of basketball and cultural understanding in current leadership.

• Angel’s Reaction:

  • Frustrated by outsiders shaping dominant narratives: "You guys can come in our league and [crap] on it. Like you said, no research done." [16:24]
  • On Portnoy: "You got to know the players names. Okay." [13:01]
  • Angel nominates Nneka Ogwumike as the next potential commissioner: "If it's going to be another commissioner in our NBA, it's going to be someone who has dealt with the blood, sweat and tears in this League." [09:53]

2. Critique of League Leadership & Commissioner Cathy Engelbert

[07:17–13:10; 12:15–13:06]

• High-profile voices and even players are openly critical of Commissioner Engelbert’s disconnect from the league's culture and players.
• Roz details Engelbert’s public missteps, including mispronouncing the Coach of the Year’s name (Natalie Nakase), which she calls not just a mistake but a symptom of deeper cultural insensitivity.
  • Roz: "...to go up there and have this culturally relevant, this, this Asian American coach and to say her name wrong, showed a lack of sensitivity, cultural sensitivity." [12:34]
• Both Roz and Angel underscore that leadership must know basketball and resonate deeply with the primarily Black, LGBTQ+ league demographics.

3. Player Unity and Caitlin Clark’s Stance

[19:50–22:05]

• The Fever's Caitlin Clark, under scrutiny as a high-profile figure and symbol for league growth, is praised for publicly backing teammate Napheesa Collier’s criticism of league leadership.
  • Roz: "This is the WNBA's newest, most attention getting asset right now... If she didn't endorse Fee and the players and come in the unified front... it would be taken as that." [21:29]
• Sophie Cunningham’s blunt critique of WNBA leadership further illustrates the players’ frustration:
  • Sophie Cunningham (via Roz): "I'm just tired of our league. Our leadership from top to bottom needs to be held accountable...they might be really great business people, but they don't know about basketball." [21:01]

4. Labor Friction and Looming CBA Lockout

[22:05–22:46]

• Angel hints at behind-the-scenes player frustration amidst ongoing CBA negotiations: "From what I've heard and the discussions and negotiations is disheartening... there could be possibly a lockout." [22:26]
• Roz connects labor uncertainty with the league’s momentum and future: "I want the season to start on time and obviously, you know, I think there's so much momentum and it does feel like at this moment we're not running." [22:46]

5. WNBA Finals Preview: Mercury vs. Aces

[24:16–28:24]

• Roz lays out why the Mercury, regularly seen as underdogs, are much more than a Cinderella team.
  • Roz: "Anybody who picked against them, which seemingly was almost everyone in their route to taking down the Liberty, taking down the number one seed links...Do not sleep on the Phoenix Mercury." [25:12]
• She outlines their playoff grind, experienced personnel, and overlooked contributions—including Alyssa Thomas, Dewanna Bonner, and Satu Sabally.
• Both hosts marvel at the “chip on the shoulder” dynamic for both teams, framing the Finals as a “chip-off.”
  • Roz: "It's a chip off. This is a...who has a bigger chip in their shoulder. Both of them are looking at the other one like I'm an underdog. Nobody believed in us." [28:24]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Roz (on media coverage):
  "These people are coming in one or two times a year to the house of woman's basketball... instead they in there throwing things in the fridge, drinking out, straight out the car and talking about your family...mucking up the floor, mud all on the floor with their shoes, jumping on the couch." [15:15]
• Angel (on external critics):
  "If we did that, we would get roasted. We could never do that in football. We could never do that in the NBA." [16:24]
• Roz (on player leadership):
  "If a majority of them are minorities, are black, are LGBTQ community, you know, you gotta be able to resonate, relate and also empathize." [11:10]
• Angel (on potential lockout):
  "Just know that there could be possibly a lockout." [22:26]
• Roz (on Mercury):
  "It's not some Cinderella group of, you know, never been here before. These are experienced players." [25:50]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:32 – WNBA enters mainstream headlines; hosts set up discussion on new attention and ensuing takes
• 05:04–09:33 – Clips and responses: Mad Dog, Skip Bayless, Stephen A., Dave Portnoy weigh in on league turmoil
• 09:53–13:42 – Who should lead the WNBA? Critiques of Engelbert; Nneka Ogwumike nomination; cultural disconnect examples
• 15:15–16:39 – The “house guest” analogy for talking heads
• 19:50–22:26 – Caitlin Clark’s public support of Collier; Sophie Cunningham’s exit interview; importance of unified player action
• 22:26–23:28 – CBA lockout concerns and impact on next season
• 24:16–28:24 – WNBA Finals breakdown: Mercury’s case against the Aces; players, narrative, and the “chip-off”

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Episode Tone and Takeaways

• Roz and Angel keep the conversation energetic, satirical, and unfiltered. There’s pride and protective energy towards the league, skepticism about opportunistic commentary, and genuine worry about the CBA’s future. Their unique insights and lived experiences set the dialogue apart from the “outside” takes they critique—making for a passionate, insider-driven episode.

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For more recaps of "Good Follow" and the Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, tune in Tuesdays and Thursdays as Roz and Angel continue their candid coverage through the WNBA Finals and beyond.

Transcript

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Hey, what's up? Welcome to Goodfellow show presented by DraftKings. And y', all, it's just the two of us.

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Hey, make it if we try.

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You ain't know I had that.

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Hey, I'm getting you on the track, Roz. Two of us.

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Two of us.

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She got a voice, y'. All.

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Two of us. Knock me out. Anyway, we are in LA and Angel McCaughrey, five time WNBA All Star. And I'm Roz Gold on wood, a well known on the good teammate wall at Stanford University.

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Can you explain to us what that means?

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That you're a five time all star and I'm, I'm on the good teammate wall, so.

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You're on the good teammate wall, so there's different walls.

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There's different walls. So. Okay, y'. All. Oh, there it is. Okay. So I just recently came in from the the Bay area. I was at Stanford University visiting with my alma mater. I visited with the woman's basketball team. Really excited for them as they head into year two in the acc. And I did some media training sessions with them and it was awesome. But they gave me a tour of their brand spanking new locker room child to be born. And I don't even know what year. 2005, 10. 2010. It's a nice life. It's luxurious in that locker room. My goodness. They got mirrors and lighting and all high ceilings.

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Oh, wow.

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I want to live there.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, so there's different walls and one of the walls was for all of the all Americans. One of the walls was for all of the WNBA players that came out of basketball. And then Kate Pay, the new coach of the Stanford, walked me over. She said, here you are, Roz, you're on the wall for good teammates. And I love that though, like, I was mad. First of all, it's a sisterhood. I was proud. I had a very nice slice of real estate on the good teammate wall.

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Hey, she's up on the wall.

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Okay, I made a wall.

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That's all that matters. She's on the wall.

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I made a wall. And it was a sisterhood and all that. But we had a good chuckle when I was telling them that before the show. I was like, yeah, I love it.

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You want a good teammate? Hey, she's a good teammate, man.

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Absolutely. And five time WNBA all star Angel. Yes. All American in college.

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I'm on the all American wall. But that doesn't matter. You're on a good teammate.

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National player of the year in college too.

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I don't even remember. I want so many. Did I? I don't remember.

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I think you did. Anyway. All right, moving on to today's show, people are talking about the WNBA that have not talked about the WNBA either before or in a very long time. I guess all of this attention is good, good attention. I don't know. We'll discuss it. And then as we head into the WNBA finals between the Las Vegas Aces and the Phoenix Mercury, we will break down the chip on the shoulder of the Phoenix Mercury and how they've been carrying that around and can they silence the doubters and. And maybe get a win over the Aces?

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Hey, maybe.

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We shall see.

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We shall see. Well, guys, you can check us out Tuesdays and Thursdays. Thank you for supporting us at the good Follow Show Link. Comment subscribe we love hearing your comments. Let's get going. Bam.

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That was your best one.

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Yeah, that was my best one.

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That was your best one yet.

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Finally I got the key right, guys.

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Yeah. Angel has like one like assigned line. The rest of this is all just like off the top, you know, just speaking at each other. But it's just. And this is your best of it. We should do a clip. We should do like a montage of all of Angels. Okay, guys, like, wait, when do I go? Every Tuesday and Thursday. We have a show now. You did great.

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Let's go now. We gonna have a good show.

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After Nafisa Collier's exit interview, the entire basketball world, in fact, really the sports world was shaken up and she has everyone talking and I. I guess it's a good thing, all of this exposure. I. I mean, I think it is, but let's just check some of the coverage out that that's coming out right now.

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Kyo says it's not about W's and l's yes, it is. You lost the game. You lost the ball and you're frustrated.

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B.

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The coach acted like a complete. You don't act like that. You don't act like that. And she should apologize. You know, when I was out of line, the court was right. I can't run into court, curse out the fans and then on top of it destroy the officials when my season. She deserved the suspension.

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Oh my God.

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You know What? Bless Monica McNutt's heart. I swear God she did. They didn't call Monica in and Monica came to work.

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She was itching.

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Like I don't even think she expected to see or hear for a second there, I was like, is he going to call Cheryl re about her name? I was like, wait a minute.

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But God.

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But that was from Mad Dog Chris. Chris Russo on first take. Let's, let's hear some more. Skip Bayless chimed in. If Caitlin Clark out since July 15 had returned for the playoffs, the Fever would be in the finals.

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Oh my gosh.

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Thank you so much for your for chiming in, Skip. So great to hear from you. This WNBA season just like not that. And this is no shade to Caitlin. Like it's probably possible. Sure. We like Caitlyn's an excellent player. This is not even about Caitlin. It's just about. Oh, okay. I see that you've made it to the, to the conversation.

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Thank you, Skip.

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And this is your con. This is your contribution. Some hypothetical. Like there's so much actual things that actually have happened you could comment on and you're just gonna.

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And, and for Skip. Skip, my message to you is let's nothing against Caitlyn. Can you give the girls props who made it to the semifinals?

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Oh, he didn't watch that girl stop.

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Who they only lost by what, two, two points or something like that Child.

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The, the, the, the fact some. Okay, let's, let's keep going.

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Okay. We not going to.

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Because that's not even all of the big talking heads, huge platforms that are. That are now speaking about the WNBA and we're happy to have the word, I guess or, or the brand get out there. But I mean perhaps how it's being discussed is so inflammatory or just crazy. But let's go on going back to first take. Bless Monica McNutt. Now let's hear from Stephen A. Kathy.

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Inglebrook, the commissioner of the league. You need to resign, period. When a player, any player, but especially one of that magnitude attacks you publicly like that, that weak ass statement Commissioner Engelberg gave is not good enough. She basically provided no defense of herself. Her words were piercing. That was an attack against your leadership. It was an attack against your integrity. It was an attack against your character. Against your character. And that's the statement you came out with.

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It's getting spicy.

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Yeah. I mean, and actually it's not even that. Sometimes the comments being made are things you may, you may even agree with or it's, it's, you know, but later he, he full on came out and was like, kathy Engelbit, Engelbert needs to resign. And just a really bold statement, you know, to come out and, and declare that the, the commissioner of a professional sports league needs to be fired. And for that to possibly be one of your three public statements on the WNBA for the season is bold. Is bold. Okay, we got one more person. So Dave Portnoy actually not. Not only does he think that Kathy should be out, but, but he thinks he could do a better job as commissioners.

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Oh, really?

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Let's, let's tap in.

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What if the WNBA approached you to be the commissioner?

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There we go.

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Said it all. These women who think they hate me. Angel re. She thinks she hates me. The one with the fingernails thinks she tape me. D. John Carrington. These girls would be whining and dining and be like, oh my God, it's not about the color of the skin. It's about sports, basketball. And this guy's putting money in my pocket. He's a genius. We, we would be flying, dining and driving. It would be unbelievable. I would absolutely. To a level it has never seen. Kathy Engelberg can't, can't market her way out of a paper bag. Embrace the stuff that's going on. This league she's doing investigation. Who invests an entire fan base over nothing and creates everyone. Who wants your fans to be called racist for no reason. This, this woman's a moron.

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Well.

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I, for me, there's certainly people, there's fan bases that agree with, with Dave and, and he's talking to somebody there and. But I'm not even here to critique what, what some of these people are or not saying. It's just the manner in which they have like, plowed their way into the WNBA conversation.

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Angel, first I'm gonna say for Dave Portnoy, the first thing is I need to talk to your wife or girlfriend or whoever to see how you're going to manage all these women. If it's going to be another commissioner in our NBA, it's going to be someone who has dealt with the blood, sweat and tears in this League and who I nominate Neca Ogumike as our next commissioner.

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Ooh. Well, she's already, you know, president of the Players Players Association.

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There you go.

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And as somebody who has been a player under her tutelage or her leadership, what do you, what stands out about Neca?

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She's an amazing person. Number one, she's been through the blood, sweat, and two, she's a great leader. I've played with her. She just knows how to weather this storm. She's been fighting for us, for the CBA for a long time. And you've been her teammate.

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Yeah.

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So you know these qualities that she would be a great leader for.

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Oh, I would run through a wall for Neca.

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There you go.

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I think she's a great human being, a great leader, a great teammate, you know, and, and so I didn't even know you were going to make a nomination. I certainly stand behind Neca for anything, full stop. Um, but, you know, you, we've heard some critique coming out for from players that the next commissioner, it's not just about being a good business person. You, you gotta know ball.

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Yep.

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I think also you gotta understand the wants, needs, plights, desires, coverage, lifestyle, the, the nuances of the players within your league. And if a majority of them, you know, are minorities, are black, are LBGTQ community, you know, you gotta be able to resonate, relate and also empathize. And it's been a lack of connection and empathy with Kathy Engelbert that keeps coming up and coming up. And this isn't just the black thing. Like, you know, I would point out Kathy has had a few missteps now. You know, even when she came to the Bay and was supposed to give the coach of the year award to Natalie Nakase and that's a huge award. It's one of the major awards for the season. And she had a blunder in mispronouncing her name. She said Nikase or Nikhazi or whatever and she was, she was corrected by the media and at the moment did go viral. But it's more than just like, did she have a slip up when you're under so much critique? And it actually was revealing of, well, one, was she properly prepared? Two, are you familiar with your league? Are you watching your league how you don't know how to say Nakase's name? This thing's been said all season long where all we're talking about is the incredible coaching job happening in the Bay with all those injuries and, you know, kind of lacking of big name players. Look at how well they're doing. Nakase. Nakase. Nakase.

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Right.

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And then to go back to insensitivity, culturally, there was power in that name to give her the coach of the year. Natalie Nakase is the first ever Asian American head coach in WNBA history. So to go up there and have this culturally relevant, this, this Asian American coach and to say her name wrong, showed a lack of sensitivity, cultural sensitivity. So, you know, she's had a few slip ups like that.

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That. And. And to say the least. So Dave, you got to know the players names. Okay.

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Right.

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At least.

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Right. The girl with the nails.

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Not the girl with the nails. And then you.

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The girl with the nails is absolutely insane. I want to go back because that's not. Okay, his. His thing. I want to go back to mad Dog Chris Russo because on. On first take, before he even speaks about the wnba, he actually starts it with, well, I'm not really following this.

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Oh, Jesus.

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I don't really follow it. There's no world like Angel. There's no world where a woman could go on any national network and begin her commentary with. I don't. I'm not really following this. I don't watch. I don't really talk about it. I likely did not prepare.

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Can you imagine?

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Did not prepare for what I'm about to say and then not only have some commentary, have some really strong commentary, have some really strong opinions about, like, what should happen here. And his whole dialogue was just lacking in the right respect and understanding of the gravitas of Cheryl Reeve. Like, of course her behavior was poor, but babe, this is. This is like pop of the league, you know, like, you're up. You kind of played down Nafisa Collier, but without having the depth of knowledge to know what the. What the battle has been with officiating for a whole season long. And. Okay, I'll give you this example. When you go to someone's house for like the first time, angel, you go to someone's house, you're usually polite.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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You might even come into the house for the first time and ask them, do you guys take your shoes off here? Should I take my shoes off the door?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay. You know, you might even. You might even you on best behavior, you might come over with a dish. Yeah, I come over with a bottle of wine. People have come over my house. They've given me a candle and Etiquette. Etiquette, Right. Or just it's. It's the first time you've been there. Maybe it's, you know, so you still polite. And these, these people are coming in one or two times a year to the house of woman's basketball. And ain't nothing, like, ain't nothing about it. Like, okay, well, let me, let me lean into you, Monica. What do you think? Because, you know, you've been covering it all year or da, da, da. Instead they in there throwing things in the fridge, drinking out, straight out the car and talking about your family mucking up the floor, mud all on the floor with their shoes, jumping on the couch.

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That's what it feels like.

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Coming right in, demanding commissioners should be fired and that they could do a better job. And randomly having a tweet that has, like, honestly, like, not a lot to do with the moment or just coming in and doing the most. Being so loud.

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Yeah.

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And I appreciate the platform, but often their coverage with these huge platforms is so, like, alarmist. And often used to kind of sh. T on the league or used to point out moments when there's mishaps or, you know, or like, talk down on the women who are playing. It's inflammatory coverage. Yeah, there were some great stories. How about where were y' all when Kelsey Mitchell had that inspiring run?

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There you go.

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Where were y' all when the Aces were on a 17 game win streak, which was historically significant. They were almost on the verge of having the longest winning streak in the history of the league, but they fell short. That was a great story. Where were you to cover that?

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There you go.

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There were stars in that story that we didn't. We're not asking you to cover something small that was big. So you only come here to. On the league and, and, and talk about when, when things are on fire, I guess. But it's.

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Wow, it's given bandwagon behavior. But like you said, like, if we did that, we would get roasted. We could never do that in football. We could never do that in the NBA. But here, you guys can come in our league and on it. Like you said, no research done.

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And, and brag about it. Brag. I don't want.

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I'm the next commissioner.

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Or, or I, I don't, I don't, I don't follow this. How can you even be allowed to speak on a professional platform? First of all, where's your where's where? Bring back shame. How can you speak so strong when you are willingly willing to admit. I don't watch. I don't follow. And like, if it was me, I would have come in and had a much more demure, cutesy, you know, take, like, you know, I think what's happening in the league is, you know, is it's. It's a lot happening. The ladies have a lot at stake. We'll be following. But to just come in and it's just everything.

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And let me say this to Chris Russo. The last thing you want to do is injure three ligaments in your foot, right? You have a career injury in this league the workers can't finish. You're done. Remember, we don't have pension, so that's the last thing you want to do. But that's a whole nother story. So to what you said we could never.

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Oh, we could never. All right, let's take a break. Yeah.

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Hey, welcome back to good follow show presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz. She's angel. And today was the exit interviews for the Indiana Fever. And you know, everybody's been waiting to hear from Caitlin Clark and what she has to say about Fee's comments and everything about the commissioner and the league and all the things. So she spoke on it. Here's what Caitlyn had to say. I have great respect for Fee and I think she made a lot of very valid points. And, you know, Fee said it all. This is straight up the most important moment in this league's history where this league's been around for 25 plus years. Caitlin Clark basically, you know, unified front with, with all of the players, which I think is really important right now as they head into CBA discussions and the end of October date is looming here and likely not to be met. But Sophie Cunningham also gave her 2 cents during exit interviews for the Fever. And she had this to say. I'm just tired of our league. Our leadership from top to bottom needs to be held accountable. I think that there are a lot of people in, in a position of power in the WNBA who they might be really great business people, but they don't know about basketball. Sophie.

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Oh, Sophie.

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Sophie. Gonna tell you like it is gonna tell you exactly how she feels. What do you, what do you make of this angel, you being a former player?

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I wouldn't. Sophie, I wouldn't say I'm just tired of Ali. I wouldn't say that part. I would have left that part out and just talk about the leadership we need.

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But it's speaking to a level of frustration that everyone's at right now.

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No, it's definitely a big level of frustration and shout out to Caitlyn because we needed to hear your voice. You know, we need you. You are a big voice in our league. So I'm happy to hear what she had to say.

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Yeah, I mean, I think it's important to hear from Caitlyn because so much of momentum has come with her joining the league. You know, look, you can't deny that there is some kind of Clark effect here. She, she definitely demands attention. Eyeballs dollars. So this is the WNBA's newest, most attention getting asset right now. You want to hear that? Who, who was she with? And if she didn't, if she didn't endorse Fee and the players and come in the unified front, even she didn't have to say, oh, I'm pro Kathy in the league. It would be, it would be taken as that.

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It would have been, yes.

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So to continue to stay quiet, it would be taken as that. Instead she made a decision and I'm sure there's got to be meetings with her team and whatever. Like all eyes on you. Here's how we're going to approach it. Here are some good words to say. I'm sure they don't just let her come up there and wing it. But. But she gave an endorsement of fee and unified front for the players. Anything you want to add on. On what's going on with the cba?

[B]

Actually, I do. I got, you know, I kind of hear what's going on in the meetings. I'm not gonna disclose the information, but I will say that from what I've heard and the discussions and negotiations is disheartening. I'm just going to put it at that. And just know that there could be possibly a lockout.

[A]

Yeah, I think a lockout is likely to happen. You know, we're not. I don't think they're going to suddenly have an agreement by the end of October. Yeah. But more what I'm concerned about is just, you know, what this means for things like draft and training camp and isn't there supposed to be like an expansion draft and all these new teams coming in and, you know, I want the season to start on time and obviously, you know, I think there's so much momentum and it does feel like at this moment we're not running. Your teen adjective used to describe an individual whose spirit is unyielding, unconstrained, one who navigates life on their own terms, effortlessly. They do not always show up on.

[B]

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[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I. I hope that we shall see. We shall see. Let's get to what is exciting and happening and what the momentum that is happening is. The WNBA Finals. Absolutely. Okay. Finals. The Phoenix Mercury, the Las Vegas Aces. They face off in the WNBA Finals. Very interesting. That's a 45 minute flight. You can just pop right back, back and forth, go to all the games, do everything. But the Phoenix Mercury in particular, they are playing with a chip on their shoulder as they have all season. And you know, this is actually from their own Twitter account. They've been Posting receipts. Anybody who picked against them, which seemingly was almost everyone in their route to taking down the Liberty, taking down the number one seed links. But while others doubted, I've been Ralph's going on what I been saying. Do not sleep on the Mercury. And guess what? I got receipts.

[B]

You got receipts?

[A]

Receipts. Y' all better not sleep on the Phoenix Mercury. Do not sleep on the Phoenix Mercury. Do not sleep on the Phoenix Mercury. But let me tell you right now, if all of them get healthy and then all of those international players in that deep bench, then you got a big four of Alyssa Thomas, Dewana Bonner, Kalia Copper and Satu Sabley. That's a very dangerous team. That team is a crazy team to see in the playoffs and it'd be hard to bet against them.

[B]

Wow. All I say is wow.

[A]

I'm watching them play all season. It's not even like am I some smart person or something? It's literally I watch them, I've worked, I cover the Liberty. I watch them play the Liberty all season and I've been looking at them and going, but you saw it. If you're, if you're watching, it's not surprising. Like they have an identity. This is a talented team. They're tough, they're physical, they play defense. They have players on this team. It's not some Cinderella group of, you know, never been here before. Is these are experienced players. Let's pull this up from Christina Williams. Okay, so look, Dwana Bonner, two time champion. Sammy Wickham, two times champion. Kaliyah Copper, one time champion. She's a finals mvp. You got players who have been to the Finals. Don't forget Alyssa Thomas. Been there a bunch of times. You got Olympians on this team. Like there's, there's a lot of reasons why this team is prepared for this moment. And then also again, they love this chip thing, you know, love that. Yeah, they, they were slighted on the all rookie team. Monica Koa Makani, she absolutely had a case for all rookie a team. I think all of those players that did make it are deserving. But when you look at her minutes, points and assists, it's notable, especially at the point guard position and her impact on a high achieving team. A rookie point guard, that's crazy. Yeah, coaches got slighted, you could argue or executive staff. Nick Uren had an executive of the year case. You know, they got a lot of critique hiring Nick. Nate Tibbets, he came from the NBA side and people were really upset. You know, people want to see women in these roles, but he came from the NBA side. And look, he's winning. He's. He's getting results in year two. He and Nick, you Ren changed up the whole culture, new era, got rid of players, brought all these different pieces in, and it's working. So, you know, I think. I think they both could have, you know, could deserve more flowers for what they've been able to do to this point. Think about Alyssa Thomas. Another season, no mvp, but she coming for that chip. You look at. You look at Satu Sablee, new chapter in Phoenix. She heard y' all talking about her in Dallas. She told me that, and she took it personally. And dejuana Bonner.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Had a debacle in Indiana with the fever, and it looks like she's getting the last laugh. She's the one going to the finals again.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

So, I don't know, can the Mercury just silence all the doubters here and. And pull this out? One more seating upset over the Las Vegas Aces?

[B]

I think so. Roz, you dropped the mic on it and gave all the facts. So can y' all just stop treating them like a Cinderella team already?

[A]

It's funny because the Aces feel like they've been slept on all season. I want. This is a chip off. This is a. Who has a bigger chip in their shoulder. Both of them are looking at the other one like I'm an underdog. Nobody believed in us.

[B]

I like that. It's a chip off.

[A]

It's a chip off. It's a chip off. We're out of time, guys. We'll be back to discuss probably the first game or two of the of the WNBA finals. Tune in. It starts on Friday night. Thank you for watching Goodfellow. She's angel, five time WNBA all star. I'm Roz Golden Wood, a great teammate and we will see you next time.

[C]

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