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Roz Golden Woode
Hey, what's up y'all? Welcome to Good follow presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz Golden Woode and that's my co host, that's my girl, that's Logan Hackett. What's up, Logan? How you doing?
Unknown
I'm actually doing really well. I feel refreshed now that March Madness is over, like the chaos. But in a sense I also really miss it and I just want to keep on like bing ba Boom, you know, back to back to back. But you were there and I want to know all about it. How was it?
Roz Golden Woode
Oh, you. You flourish in the madness, huh?
Unknown
Yeah, I love it.
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah, I was in Tampa, girl. It was so beautiful out there. I love warm weather. So the weather was amazing. It was a hot, the hot spot for women's basketball. Like everyone was there. This was a place to see and be seen, to be networking. WNBA players, coaches, executives, media members, like it was all there in one one place. It was, you know, really exciting within the women's basketball community. I was there doing the national radio game broadcast for, for the games at the Final Four. So I had a lot of like, really cool opportunities to spend a lot of one on one time with the teams and the coaches and the players. I got to really, you know, see in the minds of Gino and, and dawn and what gets them going and how they're strategizing. Spent a lot of time with UConn in South Carolina, obviously, and then with the players, just getting to know, you know, the personality of these teams and getting to know the players. So for me, like, I really cherished the opportunity in Tampa and to interview, to talk with all of them.
Unknown
You know, there was actually One, I think it was a South Carolina game at halftime. Don was walking to the locker room, and you're on the feed running after her with your little notepad. I was like, oh, my God, that's raw.
Roz Golden Woode
First of all, I'm mad old school. I still use my notepad. And then, like, I kind of have to time it up. It's almost like double Dutch. Like, I'm watching her walking off the court, and I know I got to speak to her coming off the court and then the other coach coming out onto the court. So I'm like, one, two. There she goes. Dawn, what's your message to the team? But it was really cool. But beyond that, we're also celebrating today.
Unknown
Logan.
Roz Golden Woode
Yay. We're celebrating. We hit 1, 000 subscribers. Actually, it's such a big deal for us. It's not just one bell. It's two bells. It's three bells. We are so grateful. We are so excited to reach 1, 000 subscribers on YouTube. That is. You know, we relaunched, relaunched this at the start of the new year. We've been doing this, building this with y'all for three months to hit 1,000. It means a lot. And we pledge to continue to bring great energy and enthusiasm and creativity to how we cover women's sports for y'all. Okay? That's our promise.
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Roz Golden Woode
All right, the road to 2,000 subscribers begins telling. All right, let's get to the show. In today's show, we've got a great one for you. We're talking about what the future looks like for newly crowned UConn, the new champions of college basketball, after they won their 12th championship. We're going to be looking to the future for South Carolina and other contenders coming up for next college season. Then we're going to take a look at the WNBA draft, which is around the corner. We're going to reveal our top five WNBA draft picks and maybe some surprises that we'll try to predict. We also have an exclusive interview with ESPN analyst and host Lachina Robinson. It was taped in Tampa immediately after the national championship game, so it's very much giving all of the insider info, vibes, stories, tea from the scene at the Final Four. We've got a full show, Logan. So let's get to it.
Unknown
Let's get to it. Raj, you mentioned that new champion has been crowned. And yes, Yukon took over the title. And it was a bit of a shock for how they absolutely dismantled South Carolina 82 to 59. And we saw the trio lead the way once again. Paige Beckers, Az Fudd and Sarah Strong. But I don't know if anyone else feels the same way. I was super surprised by their dominance in this tournament, and I think it comes from them playing in the Big east, because leading up to March Madness, you're able to see where teams are failing or where teams are excelling. And take a conference like the SEC or the fcc, you're able to kind of see how dominant a team is going into the tournament. But with UConn being in the Big East, I mean, they've won 23 Big east titles. There's not much there. So, oh, my gosh, I'm still taken aback by it, and I don't have much more to say. But another thing that I found really interesting is that their average margin of victory was 36.8 points and Page was averaging 24.8. So if you just put that on paper one to one, is Paige leaving really that big of a deal? And it begs the question, is this the start of another dominant era for UConn?
Roz Golden Woode
You know, I actually think it could be the continuance of dominance coming out of this championship for UConn. And they may not feel the loss of Paige Beckers, who was an incredible talent, but I still think UConn can be great even after now she graduates, because when fully healthy, UConn was head and shoulders better than the competition. They gassed UCLA and South Carolina. And so for me, the. The point that I make doesn't even need stats to be proven. It's more about qualities and characteristics and culture of the program. I'll point to the pace of play that UConn plays with. I'll point to the execution of cuts of passes in their offense, the backdoor passes, the beauty of it against tough defenses. And then on the other side, UConn's not just an offensive team. They were tough on defense, and they were able to create defense offense off of that defense. This is a team that's incredibly unselfish, sacrificing roles for one another. And one thing that really stands out about UConn over the course of decades is their conditioning level. They have a fitness X factor. And even when I was playing at Stanford against UConn teams of old, they always were so well conditioned that over the course of the game, they would just wear on you and then suddenly they'd be pulling away because fatigue set in. It's harder and harder to execute. So for these qualities, I'm less worried about Paige Beckers graduating. As great as she is, Gino's a brilliant coach. The offense will further just kind of focus in on working around Sarah Strong who Logan. Sarah Strong as a freshman had a great case for the most outstanding player of the final four, you know and easily could have won that if it didn't go to Az Fudd who was also great who next season will now have to a second year of being healthy. That that's just like another step forward physically and mentally for what she'll be able to do on the court. And then all those role players will be looking for expanded roles. Your KK Arnold, your Ashland Shades, your Ice Brady's, your Janice, you know, and and and the transfer portal might get a win or two for UConn. So I expect them to be very strong next season as long as they're able to stay healthy.
Unknown
Okay, let's dive into South Carolina a bit more. They're losing to Hina Pow pow, Brie hall and Sny Fagan. But breaking news tonight lots and just announced that she is transferring in with that Raven Johnson tweeted let's run it back and there was another one with hashtag reunited. So it's likely that she is also returning now tonight led the nation in scoring last season with 25 point per game. But Roz, what does she add to the team?
Roz Golden Woode
Oh Dawn.
Unknown
Dawn had a wrinkle up her sleeve.
Roz Golden Woode
A birdie flew into the nest for South Carolina Gamecock. This is a game changer. This is huge. Tanaya Latson coming to South Carolina. You mentioned her 25 points per game. It's also about four and a half rebounds, four and a half assists per game. But more importantly, here is a player who was able to create her own shot off of the bounce to the rim for the pull up jumper against tough defenses in tight tough situations. South Carolina now has a go to scorer that is veteran that they can lean on and go to and for the most part they were offense by committee. Everybody chipping in each game in the tournament. It was like someone else would step up. Well this is a go to scorer. South Carolina needed this influx of offense. It will absolutely help their identity of being a tough defense. This is a game changer for South.
Unknown
Carolina I think especially with Powpow leaving. It adds someone who could hit those clutch shots in those moments and even shoot from Three. But they also have Malaysia Folwiley and Joyce Edwards returning. And throughout the season, into the tournament and in the championship game, we did see moments of them being a liability. Some of their decision making wasn't too good and you could kind of see their immaturity. But I honestly think that this is the biggest and best lesson that you can have in your career. Taking loss that bad to UConn and Joyce post game even said, I don't like how I'm feeling. I've never felt this way before and I never want to feel it again. So how can the both of them, of them develop in the off season to lead the team next year?
Roz Golden Woode
You know, I was really impressed with Joyce Edwards, you know, as a freshman stepping up so big in the Final Four especially. She was kind of having a slump for a couple of games there. So to find what it took to fight her way out of it, I had the chance to get to know her and speak with her during the final Four during my reporting. And this was a player who had the mental toughness, who was, you know, working with coaching staff, willing put the work in to break through. And she did. She's got size, she's got mobility, she's got the ability to attack the rim. I expect her to further build on this experience next season. My Laia full wy she is also somebody who can score the ball. She is also a bucket. And next season she's going to step, likely step into a new role. You know, this season she was off the bench, someone who came in and immediately changed the game. With her pace and style of play, there's a good chance she's likely to be a starter next season. And so there's a difference there. When, when you're coming off the bench, you have more freedom to be wild, maybe in some ways, but as a starter, often coaches want to see you be a bit more deliberate because you've got to set the, the, the style of play for your team. You've got to engage your teammates, you've got to run sets. So that'll be a healthy challenge for her next season. To your point, they're going to miss Tahina Powpow not only for her leadership, but her three point shooting. Her three point shots were like daggers for South Carolina. Even with Tanay Latson coming in. I wonder, like, where does spacing continue to come from for South Carolina? Ashlin Watson, how does she come back from injury if she's able to be fully healthy in her full self? That that's Huge for South Carolina. And it was a huge loss not having her. Obviously, Chloe kits. I thought she finished the season really strong for South Carolina. Continue to build on that. But here's like, this overarching storyline that, that the Gamecocks get to have coming into next season. Pain is a great teacher and so is embarrassment. And that's what they felt. They felt that against UConn, and now that can be bundled up and used as fuel in this off season and perhaps a chip going into next year.
Unknown
I think Tanaya could have put the cherry on top. To them winning the championship. It was like the key piece that they were missing.
Roz Golden Woode
What a shoulda coulda. Who knows? Now they have next year to show it.
Unknown
With that, UConn and South Carolina are the only teams who have championship capability next year. I mean, usc, UCLA and Texas are still looking good. And then UCLA and Texas are returning their own stars still staying in Texas. TCU just picked up Olivia Miles, Clara Silva from Kentucky and will potentially add more to their roster. So I want to do a way to early prediction. Which teams do you think could gave UConn in South Carolina a run for their money next season?
Roz Golden Woode
I'm going to point out ucla. You know, first of all, I think experience really showed itself in the Final Four, and that experience mattered. Like, you know, UCLA now has seen what it takes. They seen the different level, what the Final Four looks like, what the conditioning level looks like to be at that level. I think for Lauren Betts and Kiki Rice, they come back even more improved. They're going to anchor this team. Sienna Betts, little sis to Lauren, she's gonna join influx of height, influx of talent. You know, she was the MVP of the McDonald's All American Game. And not to mention, they bring back a lot of talent that played key roles in their run. Your Gardeners, your Hawkes, they all come back. And so I think with that experience, I think UCLA will, will be a really big team to watch. Any team that Olivia Miles was going to go to was going to suddenly become a contender, right? If they weren't already. So tcu, you're back. You're back, baby. You got. You got Olivia Miles. And I think, you know, for her, she might have looked at how well things went for Haley Van Lith there. And Mark Campbell, the coach has built a reputation now of developing great point guards. When he was at Oregon with Kelly Graves, he was instrumental in developing Sabrina Yonescu. So for Olivia Miles, that might end up being a nice fit there. And Mark Campbell and TCU also brought in size with the Kentucky transfer, Clara Silver. She's 6 foot 7, and that can help fill the gap. Also, that's being left with Sedona Prince leaving the program. So I think TCU you can keep an eye on and shout out to Duke. Okay. And Carol Lawson, who were great to finish the season. Maybe some people might have caught. They might have caught some people, you know, by surprise. They had an incredible run. They bring back most all of the team, and they get to double down on that. So keep an eye out for Duke. What about you?
Unknown
I would absolutely love to see Duke generate more offense. I mean, we saw that they could hold it down on defense. They had such low scoring games, though, and Toby Fournier is going to be a key piece to this team, and so I'm really excited to see what they do. But real quick, before we go to break, Paige heading to the draft. It means that the 2020 recruiting class has officially all left. And this is crazy. Everyone except for Caitlin has a ring, but Camilla Cardoso did win, too. So technically there's five in total over here. Do you think this will go down as the best recruiting class in history?
Roz Golden Woode
You know, this is a highly impactful recruiting class. You know, they're obviously very talented, but I also think about what they're going be for off the court. They come during a time where there's unprecedented attention on women's basketball and the way we're covering it, the way we're investing in it, the way players are handling it. And so I think if you remember back when there was the three to see with like Elena Della, Don Skyler digging Smith, Brittney Griner, like they're going to have similar impact, if not more, in how they shape the future of women's basketball. And even on. On the court, you know, this is generational. Rebounders, passers, scores, shock shot blockers. I just wonder who's going to win a championship first of this group on the WNBA side and then, you know, from there we'll be counting their greatness based off of championships, gold medals. But, you know, the future will only show that.
Unknown
A great question. I wonder who will be the first and if it. Maybe it'll go in the same order somehow. But y'all coming up, Ross sits down with the China Robinson. So we'll be right back.
What's up?
Logan Hackett
Good.
Unknown
Follow this is Raz coming to you live from Tampa. The women's tournament just wrapped up. UConn was crown champion. And right now it is a glorious day in Tampa. I'M sitting by the water right now, and, you know, the sun is starting to set, and I'm about to sit down with a great guest. She is a WNBA host and analyst for espn. She is the founder of Rising Media Stars mentorship group. She's my big sis. She's my friend. It's Lachina Robinson. We're going to sit down and enjoy just some food, catch up and talk some. Whoops. Lachina is here. Hey, sis.
Logan Hackett
Hey, Ron.
Unknown
Thank you for pulling up and joining me here.
Logan Hackett
Anything for you. It's all good to see you.
Unknown
It's great to see.
You look fabulous.
Logan Hackett
Thank you. You two always suited and booted so nice.
Unknown
It's nice that we have a moment to relax now that the college season is over. And, I mean, how amazing has Tampa been? It's been such beautiful weather.
Logan Hackett
It's one of my favorites. I don't want to age myself, but this is my 23rd straight Final Four. What? Yes.
Unknown
That's a. Congratulations.
Logan Hackett
I don't know. I don't know. It means I'm old because Gino Orem is in his.
Unknown
Oh, straight. Because he had his 24th Final Four.
Logan Hackett
Yes.
Unknown
But you didn't see 23 of those because it. Or was it stray?
Logan Hackett
You see a lot of train. I've seen 23 stray. Yeah, I have, actually, so. But that means I've seen Tampa a number of times as a Final Four venue or site. And I actually was reminiscing with Candace Parker.
Unknown
Yeah.
Logan Hackett
In the lobby of the hotel where Tennessee won in 08.
Unknown
Yeah.
Logan Hackett
Over Stanford.
Unknown
I was there.
Logan Hackett
That was the Candace Wiggins era. Yes.
Unknown
I remember the game, the championship game. It was my freshman year.
Logan Hackett
Oh, yes.
Unknown
Yes. I was at the Tampa Final Four here. And, you know, it was. It was good for Candace Parker to get that championship.
Logan Hackett
And I was asking her, I was like, do you remember? Because she said, I don't remember anything about the city, but I remember everything about the game itself. And I was like, really? She said, no, I don't remember hotel estate, anything. Like, nothing feels familiar to me. But I said, so you remember everything in the Stanford game? She was like, more so the LSU game because the Stanford game wasn't that close. Talking Ross, I was like, oh, y'all were in control the whole time.
Unknown
That Candace always has jokes. I'm gonna have to get her for that one. But you want to see the difference. You want to see the difference of maybe, like, the type of player we were.
Logan Hackett
Right.
Unknown
So I actually don't remember anything about the game against Tennessee. But what I do remember is all the stuff around it.
Logan Hackett
Yes. You were opposite.
Unknown
I was opposite. Candace is focused on the games, and I was. I remember the Tampa Final Four. All the teams came in on yachts. They had us all come in on boats, and then every.
Roz Golden Woode
All the.
Unknown
Each team, I think, had a boat. And we came off the water in the boats after sailing, and we came off a red carpet and then went in to party.
Logan Hackett
Yes. They used to do that. I don't know if they still do the dinner.
Unknown
They don't.
Logan Hackett
They bring all the teams. The four teams together and have a night, have a dinner. That used to be. That was fire. Because I was on the red carpet for a few of those. Oh, really? Yes. And that was a nice time.
Unknown
We both came from the court, and when UConn was given their trophy, they brought all of their alum on and all of their former champions, and it was kind of cool to see the level of greatness. We're talking about hall of Famers, Olympians, but also people, you know, across generations, people that you went through or they went through you. And one of the coolest things happened to me. Maya Moore walks by, and she's like, raz. And I'm like, maya. And I was like. I was like, dang. One of those championships you got went through us. And she was like, you know, you also stopped us from one.
Logan Hackett
Oh.
Unknown
And so I was like, you know, these competitors, they don't forget anything.
Logan Hackett
Nothing.
Unknown
They don't forget anything. I also got a picture with Diana Tausi.
Logan Hackett
Did you?
Unknown
Yes. So I did. You know, she is the.
Logan Hackett
I.
Unknown
We've interviewed everybody. Diana's the only player, men's or women's, that makes me a little nervous. Oh, Kobe Bryant, too.
Logan Hackett
Yeah.
Unknown
And I'm always a little bit goofy.
Logan Hackett
You know what? So Diana's so different off the court than she is on. I know.
Unknown
Yeah.
Logan Hackett
I mean, I've had. I've interviewed her a few times, and I'm always just blown away by how nice she is.
Unknown
She's like, thanks, latoya.
Logan Hackett
Appreciate you. And I'm like, is this the same monster that shows up on the court and is, like, you know, acting a fool? But, yeah, she's actually really sweet off the court.
Unknown
So, I mean, hey, we have a new champion. The NCAA season is crowned, and UConn wins the championship. The 12th overall, you know, for the program. What do you make of the championship game? What did you think, man?
Logan Hackett
Well, I honestly wish it was more competitive.
Unknown
Yeah.
Logan Hackett
You know, the fact that it was a 30 point game at the end. I just did not necessarily see that coming. But I did feel like UConn was playing very well coming in, so I'm not surprised at all that they won, even though I'm always going to stay true to my bracket. I did pick South Carolina to win. But what I was thinking, you mentioned all the UConn alum, and I ran into Asia Jones and Tamika. Tamika Raymond Williams, Jetter. Don't kill me, Tanika. Tamika Williams. And I was just thinking about, like, how dominant they were and the level of excellence they played with on the court. And I think Tamika Williams shot like 70%, like they never missed a layup. Swin Cash is not here, but obviously she was on that team since Berg. And I haven't seen that version of Connecticut, not even the 2016 Stewie, last championship, like their last championship. I haven't seen that level of excellence from Connecticut since then. And there have been a lot of questions, including myself, could they get back there? Right? Like, everyone's like, oh, Gino's been doing this a long time. You know, I don't know. Connecticut's regime may have gone even though they were still getting to the Final Fours. The championship is still the standard, but the way this team played reminded me of a lot of those old teams where they were winning three in a row and, you know, just winning championships every other year from the early 2000s, really, through 2010 or 2016, when Stewie was done. But yeah, so it was very interesting. And to see that level of excellence with the UConn piece team again.
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of dominance. And I too feel like it was reminiscent of the way those other teams in the past was dominant. I'll point out, though, like, this UConn team has been right here, though. Yeah, they've been there and, you know, clearly 24 Final Fours, and this is their back to back one. But last season's team, they, you know, Gino had that squad with like a handful of healthy players scrap their way to the Final Four. I think help has played a big part in, like, their lack of a championship as of late. And what I saw in this team, for me, they're healthy. For me, with UConn, it's always a fitness issue. It's a condition. Like, they're just. They wear on you.
Logan Hackett
Yes.
Unknown
Like against UCLA in the, in the first game of the Final Four, I felt like UCLA looked a little fatigued, you know, and UConn just kept coming at them, coming at them. And then even here, they just kept coming in waves. The high level of execution on offense, all the back cuts against the pressure.
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah.
Unknown
All the back doors. And on defense, I thought they were good too.
Logan Hackett
Yeah. I mean, the precision timing on the cuts, the screens. I thought the screening action in particular was tough for South Carolina early. Like, whether they were going to switch or try to chase. Like, they were very good with the timing of their screens so that they got a lot of mismatches and were able to take advantage of that. Um, but yeah, their defense was really good too. And in the first half in particular, I thought where their defense stood out to me was in the paint. South Carolina had some opportunities right around the rim that I thought could have helped them momentum wise in the first half, and they were missing shots with two feet in the paint. And you got to give a lot of credit to Sarah Strong because I. I often have to recheck her height. I think she's six two.
Unknown
Yeah.
Logan Hackett
And she was battling it out. While dawn has a full rotation of posts she can put in the game who are obviously tough, scrappy, can get on the glass. Joyce Edwards included, coming off on the bench. Tonia Fagan starting Chloe, but she was contesting a lot of shots in the paint and taking away those easy buckets for South Carolina in the first half, I thought was key. So to your point, UConn's defense was also just very effective.
Unknown
Okay, I want to hear your thoughts on this, because UConn had an incredible game from Az Fudd, who was great in Tampa. And I also think Paige, while she didn't shoot great, was highly impactful. Sarah, between the points, I think 24 points, I think 15 rebounds. Between the blocks and the defense, she anchored everything that thwarted South Carolina. I think there were a number of candidates, but for me, Sarah Strong was the most outstanding player for me of the final four.
Logan Hackett
Someone else said that. Someone else said that to me because the game ended.
Unknown
And don't forget, she 22 points in the game. I think she had a high scoring game in the game before.
Logan Hackett
Yeah. And as did az. And when the game ended, someone who I was sitting with was like, oh, Sarah Strong's the most outstanding player. And I was like, really? I thought it was a spud, and I think it could have gone either way.
Unknown
Either way.
Logan Hackett
First of all, a freshman performing at.
Unknown
Such a high level.
Logan Hackett
I mean, the poise, the toughness. I am blown away by her.
Unknown
Yeah.
Logan Hackett
Period, point blank. But what I think it was with AZ and Roz, you've had injuries As a player. So you get this part of it. She started to trust her body on defense, and we can look at points all day long, which. She's a sharpshooter.
Unknown
She can score.
Logan Hackett
You know, she's starting to get that timing in with her shot. But she was taking risks on defense. She was lunging. She was in the passing lanes. You know, she was picking players. Like, she was trusting her body to really move, in a way, on defense. That gave that team a lot of momentum. And those were the things that maybe most people saw. I know I saw in voting her, you know, the most outstanding player. But honestly, it could have gone. I thought it could have gone either way.
Unknown
What a luxury for UConn, right? All these players stepped up so big. And it's funny because, you know, I interviewed post game Sarah Strong, and she barely smiled. Like, she just got a.
Logan Hackett
She locked in. She's locked in.
Roz Golden Woode
Did she take after Alice a little bit.
Unknown
Like, Fisha. Her mom. She does. Her mom is a little bit on, like, the. A little more serious. I mean, when you know her, you keep being with her.
Logan Hackett
You're cute, but on the surface, she gonna give you the straight.
Unknown
And I see her mother in her, like, stoicness. I wonder if she's, like, silly on the side, right? Yeah.
Logan Hackett
Like, behind the scenes.
Unknown
But, you know, so that was something that stood out to me.
Logan Hackett
Shout out to Alison, who's was one of my childhood heroes, like I am. I wanted to go to Harvard because of her. And the fact that, like, we text now during games and stuff. Like, I'm like, I can't even believe that I get to correspond with Allison's sister. Like, y'all need to get on Google if you don't know who this woman is.
Unknown
Like, the historic.
Logan Hackett
Yeah.
Unknown
Seed beating a one seed in the tournament. Harvard beats Stanford. Why is Stanford. Sorry, dad.
Logan Hackett
Ron, this is a bad episode for Stanford.
Unknown
Episode for Stanford. Hey, we got a lot of greatness coming through Stanford, too. But. And then to another point, you had. I interviewed Geno post game and after the championship, and I asked them what this 12th championship meant and the fact that it took nine years to get there, what it meant to the program and to the tee and to him. And he heard. He basically alluded to. He heard all that talk. Oh, you know, Gino's a. You know, he got, you know, strong. Like, he believes in the program and the work he's put in.
Logan Hackett
Yeah.
Unknown
And so he heard that, and he said, look, if we want parody in the game, we can't be upset when it's hard to get here. And so that was. Not only was it that he heard it, it was respect for the. For the parody.
Logan Hackett
And that's a great point, Roz, because I do agree with you that it's been injuries that have been in the way of UConn somewhat, but it's also that everyone else in the country has gotten better, right?
Unknown
Like, there's more parody.
Logan Hackett
There are more team competing. UConn wasn't just getting every all American out of high school like they used to at some point. And so I think you do have to consider that.
Unknown
But I actually think that's a great point, because as we do all this legacy talk, you know, oh, how many championships does this player have? And Paige Beckers is now going to have one. Where does she stand with the greats of UConn, who have four or three or two? I think it's hard to have that conversation because I remember playing in the years of 2010 where our first challenge wasn't until the Final Four, where you would. What teams were going undefeated through the season and winning by 30. You know what I mean? So it's like, how can you. It's just everything. Both are excellent, but there's so much more parity now that to get that one chip is so much harder, I think.
Logan Hackett
I agree. I agree. The game has grown even in terms of the styles of play we see. Right. And this is nothing against the teams of old, because we wouldn't be here without the foundation that the teams have had success way back to the AIAW days and the Law Tech days and the Western Kentucky, like all those teams that you don't hear much as much about, that have been a part of the growth of college women's basketball over time. But, yes, Dallas, the game just seems like there's closer contests, there's more parody, there's more talent going to different places. There's, to me, more variety and style of play. You know, we've got YouTube and technology that's grown in terms of how these players are training and how they're preparing their bodies and minds for college. And so you love to see it. And you're absolutely right. It makes it much harder now to have that kind of dominance. Tennessee, obviously, right? That goes without saying.
Unknown
So how do we reflect on the full body of work now for our girl Paige Beckers, who has her storybook, you know, ending with the championship after all the injuries. Not only injuries. She went through a pandemic. Like her team was injured and to come through with her resilience and heart.
Logan Hackett
There's just not enough positive words to say about Paige as a player or as a person. We have just watched her blossom her game on the court through the resilience of the injuries, through the perseverance. We've watched her become a spokeswoman in a face of the game of college women's basketball. But I think what I learned in this year, particular, really this stretch of games in the NCAA tournament and in the post season, is that Paige has the ability to rise to the occasion. There were questions about whether or not she was WNBA ready. Cause she doesn't shoot enough. And she's a pass first, and does she take over enough. All those conversations that we have about great players, and I don't know that people were giving her the grace which she was working back from with injury, but she showed us that she can shoot that thing like she can score the ball and under duress in crunch times in big games. So I just love that she took center stage. And the story couldn't have ended more perfectly for her journey with all that she's been through, than to have a national champion.
Unknown
Yeah. And I'm going to remember her not only as a great player, but the more I found out about Paige, the more I understand how wonderful of a human being and a teammate she is. And also her heart and resilience beyond the points and the buckets. Like, that's what stands out to me about Paige Beckers. And, you know, it's a nice transition, too, because that's what stands out to me about you, Lachina.
Logan Hackett
Like, me and Paige have nothing in common. I can't shoot. Okay. So I don't know where Roz is going right now.
Unknown
No, no, no. I'm talking about the quality of character, of heart, of being a great teammate, of helping bring others along. And, I mean, you even being here is a symbol of, like, your love for me. You're my big sis, but everybody's big sis. We all can sit and rave about you. You're also my friend.
Logan Hackett
Yes.
Unknown
And, you know, I want to just highlight the incredible work you're doing with rising media stars. The mentorship organization that you founded that now has literally put stars in seats on the biggest networks. It's for, you know, young journalists who want to become broadcasters. Why was it important for you to have a life of mentorship and have this be your passion?
Logan Hackett
Well, first of all, thank you so much. I appreciate all those kind words. But, you know, I said I've been to 23 straight final fours. And what I can say is the journey was. Was lonely in those early years because I didn't see a lot of people that looked like me in the room. Even Gino Oriemma commented in his presser, and he was like, I don't know that I've ever seen this many women in the room at a Final Four. And he's obviously been in a lot of them. And so it really came from a passion for wanting more diversity in the coverage of women's basketball. But also, I know how amazing it has felt to live my dream of covering the sport, and I want to help more people reach their dreams. It's kind of the way I've always been wired. I am a natural encourager. I just am really always pretty much optimistic and like to help people when they need help. And so, you know, starting this program, which is a nonprofit, we just wanted to really target our attention in a small group of women that we can help to elevate and transition into sport broadcasting, because it can be lonely. Right. And no one gives you the playbook. And all of our paths are different in terms of how we got here. But if I could even just do a little bit to add to the diversity of the coverage of women's basketball so that the media looks more like the players on the court. Right. That's what we want to see over time, then that's what I wanted to do. So it's really been an honor for me and a blessing to be a part of the journey of all of the women you named and so much more. And. Yeah, just trying to pay it forward.
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah.
Unknown
And, I mean, you've connected me with a number of broadcasters. And, hey, I need you to meet this young lady who's with the Bucks and Zora, like, she's doing the Olympics now. Yes. And there's been a few of those. But for me, you've been a sis, a mentor, a friend for me, and, you know, I guess I'll kind of get you out on this one. You know, I come to you. I have so few people to actually talk about when things are down. I have so many people in my life and my family that are depending on me, and it's hard to share openly without worrying them. So when I've ever had an insecurity or a disappointment, oftentimes you've been there for the conversation. And part of being a broadcaster is it's almost like ball. Like, there's rosters you can get cut, you're fighting for playing time. Business is hard like, how do you keep your sanity in a business where there's even as high as you get, there's so much that's still not guaranteed.
Logan Hackett
100. No, Raj, you're right. This business is very subjective. And you and I both, probably me more than you, have heard so many no's, and I've heard a lot of reasons why I don't fit in this world. Right. I'm always reminded of all the things I'm not, and very rarely was I ever praised for what I was. And so I think it really comes from an inner resilience, for sure. For me, it's also my faith in God and knowing that no decision that anyone could ever make is going to take me off of my destiny. If a door closes, it was meant to close, right? If a door opens, it was meant to open. Like, you know, people to me are just kind of the conduits of whatever it is that God really wants to do in my life. And so when you take that personal out of it, you realize that your journey is already predestined and all you can control is your work ethic. You can work harder than everyone. You can be knowledgeable. And for you and I, when we step into that seat, especially as black women, we know we have to be excellent to open the door for the next black woman coming after us or the next woman coming after us. So I carry that burden, if you will, with great pride, as you have, of showing up and being great, and I take on the challenge. And because we love women's basketball so much, it's easy. Like, this is the dream. This is literally a dream for me. I've always wanted to do this, you know, like, to cover women's basketball at the highest level, and I have at this point. So I am very happy with my career and glad that I can help others find their dream and to, you know, ascend to the places that they dream of being.
Roz Golden Woode
In this business, I think you walk.
Unknown
The walk and you talk the talk. I thank you for how you show up, and I just appreciate you so much. Yes. You're an example I give often that you can be. Be successful in this business, be talented, but you can be a great person, and that will take you, take you far. So, Latina, thank you so much for joining.
Logan Hackett
Thank you. And I will always be here for you. Always. I'm a phone call away. I'm here. My girl. Like my real sister.
Unknown
I know.
Logan Hackett
I love you. I love you, too. Thank you for having me.
Unknown
Thank you for coming.
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Roz Golden Woode
Good Follow presented by DraftKings. I'm Roz, she's Logan and thank you so much to LA China Robinson again for joining our show. ESPN Analysts. But beyond that incredible friend and mentor to so many. It was really great to catch up and Kiki with her and all the things, but. Okay, y'all. The WNBA draft is here, so Logan and I are revealing our top five draft picks. Logan, let's see who we both have in the number one spot.
Unknown
Let's do it. Oh, my goodness.
Shocker.
Roz Golden Woode
It's Paige Beckers.
Unknown
Absolutely no surprise here. Paige is a number one going to Dallas and they made a lot of improvements in the off season, bringing in D.J. carrington and Alyssa Smith, Ty Harris, and they're joining Rico Golek. So Paige is coming into this team that also went 9 and 31 last year, finishing 11th in the league. So what do you think she can contribute to make them a contender this year?
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah, Paige Beckers is an efficient score from all ranges. From three and especially with her mid range pull up jump shot. She's going to provide spacing, you know, anytime she's on the court. I also think she's going to eat off of the spacing that's provided by the gravity that's going to come to Enrique like that. That penetrate kick out is going to be crazy. And they could be a nice one, two punch offensively together. Another thing that I'll point out, Paige is a great teammate. We saw the stories that came out about her waking up early to cook, you know, breakfast for her teammate, General Offy coming out of Ramadan. She's a great human and I just think her personality, even her, like, ease of nature, her silliness, I think that'll be really healthy for the team in Dallas. That's going through a lot of transition right now and sometimes you need that kind of personality. Um, and Logan, here's the most important thing. Well, I'm just joking, but I'm so ready for the pregame walk in for Dallas because between Paige, Arike and Dijonay and then the rest of the team, like that's gonna be a very swaggy team. That walk in is gonna be crazy.
Unknown
Real quick, who do you see playing the one and who do you see playing the two?
Roz Golden Woode
I think you can, you know, transition that whoever gets the ball can bring it up because everybody can play with pace, everybody can share it and everybody's a bucket.
Unknown
Love that. Next up, let's move to number two. I have Dominique Malonga and you have Kiki Area Finn. Personally, I chose Dominique because I think she really fits well with the Seattle team given that she played with Gabby Williams. But six, six, she's fast, versatile. You can't really teach the athleticism that she has and the president of her team at Lyon, which, mind you, she's 19 years old, averaging a double double there. But he said that she is the female Wemby and I think Seattle just needs to grab her when they can.
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people have her at number two. She easily could.
Unknown
Right.
Roz Golden Woode
But I actually went with Kiki because, you know, Seattle already has neck and Ezzy Magbagor. But I think that Kiki's versatility could help her fill in spots and gaps and spurts here. You know, she's got great defensive potential. She's got, you know, mobility. She's able to shoot the ball, you know, in little short ranges and stuff. And I think think that'll complement those established stars. I thought she finished her season at USC better than she started it. And I actually remember the Kiki of the breakout year at Stanford University, and that's where I really saw some of her potential. So I think there's more here and upside for Kiki and perhaps she gets picked up at number two.
Unknown
Let's move to the number three. Are two and three are actually flip for us. And I have the exact same reasons except Washington just needs anyone they can get at that point. So Dominique goes second. That's then Kiki goes in third. But looking at the biggest on Washington, I think it would be good for them to cycle through all of them. I mean, as I just said, they need anyone who they can get.
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah, yeah. No, Washington has a lot of new from the executive staff to the team and down. So, you know, I think at number three here with Dominique Malanga, who could easily go number two. As we said, this is a 6, 6 prospect who can down punk who defensively because of her length, automatically has an opportunity to rim protect. She can stretch the court. She will shoot the three. And I potentially like her as someone who could perhaps move a healthy Shakira Austin out in space and let Shakira Austin showcase all of her versatility, all her wiggle, all the things she showed during the unrivaled season that she could do. And again, Shakira Austin healthy is a problem. So with Washington rebuilding and having a new personality, perhaps just extreme size could be a big part of their identity.
Unknown
And then for our four and fives, we actually have the exact same picks. Sonia Citron going to Washington and then Anissa Morrow going to Golden State. And I honestly, who do I start with? Sonya. Notre Dame is notorious for building WNBA ready guards. And other than Paige, I think she's the highest level that, that Washington could really use. And then as for Golden State, I'm not too sure if you saw the quote from Natalie Nikase, who says that she's looking for a certain type of player on her team. Ultra competitive, high character, never satisfied, AKA a dog. And that's what Anisa Morrow is. So I think she'd be a great fit there.
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah, yeah, you nailed that with Anissa Morrow potentially being picked up by the Valkyries at number five. She's a double, double machine. She. She's undersized, but she is a worker. Right. So I think what. What you heard from Natalie Nakase is like, this first season for the Valkyries is going to be about developing culture. And I think, to your point, Logan Murrow fits that. A culture of being hard workers, a culture of being a hustler. And don't forget, you know, she also can stretch the court, so that's always very useful. Coming back up, though, moving it back up to four with Washington, I think they might use this to get a big and then to get a wing. Right. And Sonia Citron has all the things that modern basketball loves. She's 6:1. She's got good size. She shoots 37% from 3. So she's a shooter. She can stretch the court. And she's developed into one of the best defenders in college basketball. So size 3 and D, those are the, you know, ingredients for the recipe for a nice role player in the wnba.
Unknown
He has it all.
Roz Golden Woode
Okay, Logan, so we can't get to everyone, but let's talk about some other players to watch for in this draft.
Unknown
Yeah, well, my top three are Serena Sundell, Caitlin Chen, and Sarah Ashley Barker. Starting with Serena just in the tournament, she looks WNBA ready. And she's six two could play positions one through four, which is a huge key component for a team to pick up. And she led the league in assist this year as well with averaging 7.3, I believe. And then we have Caitlyn Chan, who I think is going to be the Caitlyn, the Kate Martin of this year's draft, and Sarah Ashley Barker, who is an absolute dog, a go getter, and I honestly think she'd fit the Golden State blueprint really well.
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah. Okay. I'm gonna point out a name, a household name, and Haley Van Lif. I think she might surprise us and that she might get drafted higher than some of these mock draft boards have for her because of just how well she finished the March Madness and NCAA tournament. I think she was able to establish herself as a winner, as a bucket, highly skilled. I think she increased her draft stock and I think the upside and potential of that may for some, you know, draft boardrooms outweigh the fact that like, hey, against Texas, she did look small, she had a hard time seeing over their defense. You know, the upside might outweigh that. And I also think, hey, it doesn't hurt her marketability and you know, putting someone in that households. No. And may put butts in seats. So. So I think for Haley Van Lith, we may see her get drafted higher than some people have predicted.
Unknown
I completely agree. I think it was like round two on some jobs. I was like, no, not happening. But y'all coming up, I make my DK game pick of the week and we have some quick hits for you. So we'll be right back. Welcome back to Goodfellow. This segment is presented by DraftKings. This weekend I've got my eyes on the end of your cell. Showdown between the San Diego Wave and the Kansas City Current. Two players to watch are Delphine Cascarino for the Wave and Temoa Chewing up for the current. Cascarino brings world class experience, creativity and an unmatched ability to unlock defenses. She's already shifting the rhythm in San Diego's attack and is proving to be a playmaker, currently leading the league in assists. On the other side, Chewing goes electric. She's fast, fearless and finds the back of the net with ease, already tallying three goals in three games for the Current. Did I mention she's also the reigning NWSL MVP and Golden Boot winner? San Diego, known for its organized backline and explosive counter attack, will be looking to bounce back strong at home. But the KC Current is one of the league's most dynamic, dynamic attacking teams and they're coming in hot off a win. So I expect them to come out and hand the Wave the L. This matchup is filled with talent and is going to be a good one. So grab your popcorn and enjoy the show. This segment is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the Crown is yours. Okay, starting out, we had some stars inducted to the hall of Fame class. We have super my Moore and Sylvia Fowles. We absolutely love to see it. And actually speaking of stars unrivaled, made $27 million in revenue even after spending like 7 million or more on player salaries. So they're raking it in and I want to see that number double for next year. Do you think it can happen?
Roz Golden Woode
I think, listen, they can continue to write the standard and create it and I'm really Excited for season two for them.
Unknown
Next up, we have a Haley Van Lith featured on Sports Illustrated swimsuit. Oh, my gosh, she looks so good. I remember Angels from last year, and she absolutely killed it. But hbo, what an amazing player to.
Roz Golden Woode
Get one that stands out to me. I remember when Skylar Diggins Smith did this, this issue. I think she had a great finish to the March Madness and the tournament. And here she is, you know, having an opportunity to capitalize on that and continue to storytell and brand build.
Logan Hackett
Yeah.
Unknown
And speaking of story, Juju Watkins story has been up and down at this point, but it ended on a high, winning the wooden award and the player of the year honors. And lastly, we have their besties living their best life with Az and Paige both winning a title together. The Burden Frosty show was live at the championship. And then we had Asia Wilson and Alicia Gray doing what besties were there to do.
Roz Golden Woode
Besties were shining, and I just, I can't get enough of this clip. Like this meme. The two of them are having a healthy kiki. Like anyone that has a homegirl like that, you really, really.
Unknown
That's.
Roz Golden Woode
You really rock with. You know when you gotta, like, stomp your feet and shave, like, that is such. I relate. That's a very relatable laugh. I wonder what they're talking about. But it's like both of y'all are having a moment where you're like, girl.
Unknown
It sounds like a serotonin moment, too. Like the feeling you get after you're like, oh, my gosh. Yeah, I love her so much.
Roz Golden Woode
Yeah, they're so cute. And I love the way they show up for one another and just support one another at each other's events and milestones. And also, congratulations to Alicia. Least just secured a ring. She's get. She's just got engaged, so we're really happy for her. That's it for this week's episode of good Follow show. We want to make sure to thank Lachina Robinson, my good sis, for coming on and joining us on the show today. And of course, to all of you, all 1000 plus. Let's go go us. Thank you for rocking out watching it with us. Continue to subscribe, tell your friends, you know, check out our socials, comment, like all the things. We do this every Wednesday. We drop at 7pm Eastern on DraftKings network on YouTube, wherever you get your podcasts. So this show we're presented by DraftKings. Logan, any final words?
Unknown
Love you.
Logan Hackett
We love you.
Roz Golden Woode
See you next week.
Unknown
Bye, guys.
Logan Hackett
Sa.
Podcast Summary: "Good Follow - LaChina Robinson Joins The Show, UConn Wins NCAA Championship + 2026 Preview, WNBA Mock Draft & More"
Podcast Information:
Timestamp: [03:14] - [04:04]
Roz Golden Woode and Logan Hackett kick off the episode by celebrating a significant milestone: reaching 1,000 YouTube subscribers. Roz enthusiastically remarks, “We hit 1,000 subscribers. It’s such a big deal for us” ([03:15] Roz). They express heartfelt gratitude to their growing community, pledging to continue delivering "great energy and enthusiasm" in their coverage of women's sports.
Timestamp: [04:04] - [08:24]
The standout topic of the episode is UConn's dominant victory in the NCAA Women's Basketball Championship, securing their 12th title by dismantling South Carolina with a final score of 82-59. The hosts delve into the factors contributing to UConn’s success:
Dominant Performance: Logan notes UConn’s overwhelming superiority, highlighting their average margin of victory: “Their average margin of victory was 36.8 points” ([05:10] Logan).
Key Players: Roz emphasizes the significance of players like Paige Beckers, Az Fudd, and Sarah Strong, discussing their individual contributions and the potential future without Beckers: “Paige is a pass-first player, but UConn can be great even after she graduates” ([06:10] Roz).
Coaching and Culture: Roz underscores Gino’s brilliant coaching and UConn’s unselfish play style, pointing out their strategic execution and exceptional conditioning: “UConn’s not just an offensive team. They were tough on defense” ([07:25] Roz).
Timestamp: [08:24] - [12:30]
The discussion shifts to South Carolina's performance, analyzing their loss to UConn and the implications for the upcoming season:
Player Transfers: Logan introduces branching news about Tanaya Latson transferring to South Carolina, which promises to bolster their scoring capabilities: “Tanaya had 25 points per game. She is a game changer” ([08:51] Logan).
Team Development: Roz highlights the potential growth of returning players like Malaysia Folwiley and Joyce Edwards, emphasizing their need to develop leadership and consistency: “Joyce has the mental toughness to lead the team next year” ([10:29] Roz).
Lessons from Defeat: The hosts reflect on how South Carolina can use their recent defeat as a catalyst for improvement: “Pain is a great teacher and so is embarrassment” ([11:15] Roz).
Timestamp: [12:30] - [14:54]
Looking ahead, Roz and Logan identify teams poised to challenge UConn and South Carolina in the next season:
UCLA’s Potential: Roz believes UCLA’s experience and returning talents like Lauren Betts and Kiki Rice position them as strong contenders: “With her experience, UCLA will be a really big team to watch” ([13:09] Roz).
TCU’s Roster Enhancements: Logan discusses TCU’s strategic acquisitions, including Olivia Miles and Clara Silva, which could significantly enhance their competitiveness: “Mark Campbell has built a reputation for developing great point guards” ([13:39] Logan).
Additional Contenders: The conversation also touches on Duke, Washington, and Texas, with Roz noting Duke’s defensive strengths and Washington’s potential with new recruits: “Washington has a lot of new from the executive staff to the team” ([14:54] Roz).
Timestamp: [40:59] - [48:21]
Roz and Logan transition to the WNBA Mock Draft, unveiling their top five selections and providing in-depth analysis:
Number One Pick: Paige Beckers to Dallas
Number Two Pick: Dominique Malonga vs. Kiki Area Finn
Number Three Pick: Dominique Malonga (Roz) / Kiki Area Finn (Logan)
Number Four Pick: Sonia Citron to Washington
Number Five Pick: Anissa Morrow to Golden State
Additional Prospects:
Timestamp: [16:49] - [37:57]
The episode features an exclusive interview with LaChina Robinson, ESPN analyst and founder of the Rising Media Stars mentorship group. Key highlights include:
Personal Journey and Mentorship: LaChina shares her motivation behind founding Rising Media Stars: “I wanted to help elevate women into sport broadcasting” ([32:17] LaChina).
Experiences at the Final Four: She recounts memorable moments from Tampa’s Final Four, including interactions with legends like Maya Moore and Diana Taurasi: “Competing against such greats is unforgettable” ([20:31] LaChina).
Resilience and Career Growth: LaChina discusses the challenges she faced in a predominantly male and homogenous broadcasting environment and emphasizes the importance of resilience and mentorship: “If a door closes, it was meant to close” ([35:46] LaChina).
Impact of UConn’s Championship: Both hosts and LaChina reflect on how UConn’s win signifies a resurgence of their dominance and the evolving landscape of women’s basketball: “UConn’s level of excellence reminds me of the old championship teams” ([21:22] Logan).
Timestamp: [48:21] - [51:45]
WNBA Hall of Fame Inductions: Celebrating legends like Maya Moore and Sylvia Fowles being inducted. Roz expresses excitement for the league’s growth: “I think they can continue to raise the standard” ([50:15] Roz).
Haley Van Lith in Sports Illustrated: Roz praises Van Lith’s feature, comparing her to Skylar Diggins-Smith and anticipating her rising draft stock: “She can score the ball and increase her marketability” ([50:32] Roz).
Juju Watkins’ Achievements: Highlighting her Wooden Award and Player of the Year honors, Roz and Logan acknowledge her fluctuating yet triumphant journey: “Juju’s story has been up and down but ended on a high” ([50:48] Roz).
Best Friends on the Court: Showcasing Az and Paige winning a title together and their camaraderie, enhancing team spirit: “They show up and support each other at every event” ([51:11] Roz).
Timestamp: [52:35] - [52:50]
Roz and Logan wrap up the episode by reiterating their gratitude to subscribers and congratulating LaChina Robinson for her impactful contributions. They encourage listeners to stay engaged, subscribe, and look forward to future episodes: “Thank you for rocking out watching it with us” ([52:38] Roz).
Roz Golden Woode:
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This episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" provides an in-depth analysis of UConn’s triumphant NCAA Championship run, a comprehensive WNBA Mock Draft, and an inspiring interview with LaChina Robinson. Roz and Logan deliver insightful commentary on the current state and future of women’s basketball, celebrating milestones and highlighting emerging talents. Their engaging discussions, backed by notable quotes and firsthand experiences, offer listeners a rich and informative experience even if they haven’t tuned into the broadcast.