Good Follow - Monique Billings Joins The Show, WNBA Predicted Breakout Players + All-Motion Teams & More

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Podcast Summary: Good Follow - Monique Billings Joins The Show, WNBA Predicted Breakout Players + All-Motion Teams & More

Release Date: April 23, 2025

Hosts: Raz Goldongure and Logan Hackett
Guest: Monique Billings, WNBA Veteran, Golden State Valkyries

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1. YouTube Milestone Celebration [00:23 - 01:48]

Raz Goldongure and Logan Hackett kick off the episode by celebrating a significant milestone—reaching 2,000 subscribers on their YouTube channel. Raz shares the excitement, "We hit 2,000 subscribers on YouTube. Yes. We swear it was quick, right, Logan?" [00:42]. Logan echoes the gratitude, stating, "Thank you for 2000. We are, trust me, every single person, every one of you matters and means so much."

2. WNBA Breakout Players Predictions [03:08 - 10:10]

Raz's Picks:

• Natasha Cloud (New York Liberty): Raz highlights Natasha's potential impact following the Liberty's loss of key players. "Natasha can bring that grit and offense the team needs" [03:08].
• Shakira Austin (Washington Mystics): Despite previous injuries, Shakira's unique skill set and personality make her a candidate for a breakout season. "I just hope she's able to translate it and stay healthy this season because she has tremendous upside" [03:08].
• Maddie Segrist (Dallas Wings): As the AU champion, Maddie is expected to see increased minutes and production. "She was being talked about potentially for most improved" [06:25].
• Lexi Brown (Seattle Storm): Lexi's resilience and 3-point shooting prowess could significantly benefit the Storm. "She shot about 40% from the three, and I think she can help them find a nice role" [07:09].

Logan's Picks:

• Aaliyah Edwards ("Canadian Queen"): Logan praises Aaliyah's 1v1 skills and confidence. "She'll bring a ton to the table and definitely be able to break out this season" [04:44].
• Alicia Gray: With strong performances in Unravelled and a dynamic duo with Ryan Howard, Alicia is poised for a standout season. "As a guard duo, they're going to be lethal" [05:20].
• Camila Cardoso (Phoenix Sparks): Logan anticipates a comeback for Camila, focusing on her mental preparation and synergy with Rekiya Jackson. "It's almost like she's getting a visualization" [08:49].
• Gabby Williams (Seattle Storm): Known for her defensive prowess, Gabby is expected to make her mark in the WNBA. "I think she can do it this season" [09:02].

3. Interview with Monique Billings [11:08 - 31:17]

Setting Intentions and Personal Journey: Monique Billings, an eight-year WNBA veteran and UCLA alumna, joins the show to discuss her recent transition to the Golden State Valkyries. She emphasizes the importance of being present and joyful amidst life's changes. "I'm just really focused on being joyful through it. And joy comes from being in the present" [11:31].

Balancing Career and Broadcasting: Monique shares her experiences balancing her athletic career with broadcasting. "I've been able to do a lot of different work. I did my first NBA game with the Warriors that was a lot of fun" [17:59]. She highlights the significance of self-care in maintaining this balance: "I'm big on self-care. I'm gonna do something to pour into my cup because that's so important to me" [18:05].

Playing Overseas and Career Decisions: Reflecting on her international experience, Monique discusses the challenges and rewards of playing in 10 countries. She opted to leave her recent stint in China early due to injury concerns, prioritizing her health. "I need to protect my piece essentially" [22:48]. Monique underscores the value of these experiences for personal growth and global connections. "I've been able to travel the world, have connections all over the world. It's been so fruitful" [23:29].

Legacy and Longevity in the WNBA: As Monique enters her eighth season, she reflects on her legacy within the league. "The legacy that I hope to leave on people is that I just worked really, really hard. I was a hard worker and a good person" [27:01]. She emphasizes the importance of impacting others positively and being a role model both on and off the court.

4. WNBA Draft Recap [33:17 - 35:19]

The hosts and Monique discuss the Golden State Valkyries' performance in the 2025 WNBA draft:

• Yoste (Lithuania): A 19-year-old standout making waves overseas.
• Cheyenne Sellers (Maryland): A promising 6'2" guard entering the team.
• Caitlin Chang: Drafted 30th overall, Logan anticipates her significant impact.

Monique adds, "I think all three were great choices. I'm just excited to see how it all comes together" [35:01]. The picks align with the team's identity of hardworking and dedicated players.

5. All-Motion Teams Game [35:26 - 43:29]

Raz, Logan, and Monique engage in a fun game to create their own All-Motion WNBA Teams, focusing on players' off-court visibility and brand presence. Criteria include visibility, brand deals, iconic moments, and overall audience captivation.

Monique's Picks:

• Rekia Jackson: Recognized for her branding and tunnel fits.
• Tiffany Hayes and Neko McKay: Highlighted for their emerging brands and influence.

Logan's Picks:

• Caitlin Clark: Applauded for her business acumen and expanding brand.
• Sidney Coulson and Nafisa Collier: Chosen for their unique appearances and business ventures.

Raz's Picks:

• Dijonay Carrington and Asia Wilson: Noted for their fashion collaborations and significant brand deals.

Monique remarks, "Coach wanted good people who work hard. That's going to be our identity" [35:19].

6. Quick Hits and Headlines [48:22 - 49:30]

• Match Prediction: Washington Spirit vs. Gotham FC. Washington is predicted to win at Rowdy Audi Stadium.

• Trinity Rodman's Injury: Trinity is out indefinitely due to a back injury while in London, marked as a significant loss for the team.

• Paige Beckers Honored: Paige Beckers will have her hometown of Hopkins, Minnesota temporarily renamed in her honor on May 16th.

• Caitlin Clark's Jersey Sales: Caitlin Clark ranks second in joint NBA and WNBA jersey sales, surpassing notable NBA stars like LeBron James and Anthony Edwards. "She got that motion" [49:08].

7. Conclusion [50:07 - 50:17]

Raz and Logan wrap up the episode by expressing gratitude to their guests and listeners. They encourage viewers to subscribe and follow their socials for more content. Monique signs off with appreciation, "Thank you. Love you. Appreciate you."

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Notable Quotes:

• Raz on Natasha Cloud: "Natasha can bring that grit and offense the team needs" [03:08].

• Monique on Legacy: "The legacy that I hope to leave on people is that I just worked really, really hard. I was a hard worker and a good person" [27:01].

• Logan on Caitlin Clark: "She has motion in the same way, but she's kind of turning it into a businesswoman role" [38:59].

• Monique on Overseas Experience: "I've been able to travel the world, have connections all over the world. It's been so fruitful" [23:29].

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This episode of Good Follow offers an in-depth look into the upcoming WNBA season, featuring expert predictions, a heartfelt interview with Monique Billings, and engaging segments that blend sports insights with personal growth narratives. Whether you're a die-hard WNBA fan or new to the league, this episode provides valuable perspectives and entertaining content.

Transcript

[Logan Hackett]

You're listening to DraftKings Network.

[Raz Goldongure]

Hey, what's up, y'all? Welcome to Goodfallow presented by DraftKings. I'm Raz Goldongure and I am here with my co host with my girl, Logan Hackett. Logan, how are you, my love?

[Logan Hackett]

I'm great. How are you, girl?

[Raz Goldongure]

You know, I am fantastic. You want to know why?

[Logan Hackett]

Why?

[Raz Goldongure]

Well, you know, when I ordered these bells, you know, I said it would be for special occasions and some people on the team laughed. They were like, why do you need bells? Well, here we are with another special occasion. We hit 2, 000 subscribers on YouTube. Yes. We're sell was quick, right, Logan? Jeez, it was a quick turnaround from 1000, right?

[Logan Hackett]

I feel like we were just saying thank you for a thousand. But y'all, thank you for 2000.

[Raz Goldongure]

Thank you for 2000. We are, trust me, every single person, every one of you matters and means so much. It's really exciting to have, you know, people tune in on YouTube to spread the word, to comment, to like, to follow. To those of you who are new here, welcome. And to those of you who have been watching for a few episodes now, thank. Thank you. We've really been building this from the ground up. We relaunched this and kind of started this three and a half months ago and we're building and it's hard to do it, but it is so rewarding to do this. So the road to 3K begins now, right, Logan?

[Logan Hackett]

Yep, it does.

[Raz Goldongure]

Well, actually, the road to our show today begins right now. We've got a great lineup for you. Here's what we're discussing on today's show. We are forecasting a few of this season's WNBA breakout players who's breaking out this season and then the ripple effects from the WNBA draft. Also, what Trinity Rodman's injury means for the nwsl and stay for the game. We're playing a game. We're building our own WNBA all motion teams. Which WNBA players have had the most off court motion, visibility and bag securing this offseason. And then of course, don't go anywhere because we've got a great interview with someone who's been a friend to the show. But we're really going to sit down and get to know her. Our girl, Monique Billings of the Golden State Valkyries.

[Logan Hackett]

And again, y'all, thank you so much for subscribing, commenting, liking following the socials, clicking all the buttons and new episodes drop every Wednesday at 7pm Eastern. So y'all better tap in. But Roz, you ready for this show.

[Raz Goldongure]

Let's get into it.

[Logan Hackett]

Let's do it. Well, we're still a couple weeks away from truly being able to break down the upcoming WNBA season, but I want to kind of dip our toe in the water with some players we think are primed for a breakout season. So, Roz, let's start over in the East. Who do you have breaking up this season?

[Raz Goldongure]

You know, I got my eye on Natasha Cloud. She could be a really important piece for the New York Liberty, who lost a lot of key pieces as they try to run back this championship. Tasha's leaned into being a dog. They're going to need that. We with Ben Laney Hamilton, you know, injured and also losing Kayla Thorton. They lost players who brought grit, who could also defend, and Natasha can bring that. Losing Courtney Vander Sloot is huge. That is one of the great point guards of a generation and, and a backup to. To Sabrina. And so now Natasha can come in and either play with her, maybe push Sabrina off the ball sometimes, or come in and. And continue to run the offense for the team. And Natasha likes to say, I'm more than de. You know, I got that offense too. Come in and don't be bashful. Be ready to knock it down. There's going to be some open looks with all that star power around her. And another player I wanted to bring up was Shakira Austin for the Washington Mystics. Her biggest thing, and this is a young player, is that she's been injured so much in the last two seasons. She only played 31 games, but I got to see her up close and personal in unrivaled and just her size, her strength, her mobility, her unique skill set was really able to shine in a three on three format where there's all that space. So I just hope she's able to translate it and stay healthy this season because she has tremendous upside. And I love Shakira's personality. She's just so willing to be publicly vulnerable and accountable and tell you when she's good and when she's bad. I think that's healthy for a team. What about you, Logan out of the East?

[Logan Hackett]

Well, Shakira is like a quiet dog, but actually on the same team. My first player is Aaliyah Edwards, aka the Canadian Queen, but actually aka the unrivaled 1v1 champ. She beat so many players along the way and I think that was the first time you really saw her excel, but I feel like she expanded her game and unrivaled and with that she was able to build up her confidence and I mean, she is on a team where she's able to thrive, especially with a younger and more dynamic team around her. But as long as they use her in a correct way, I think her minutes will definitely go up. She'll bring a ton to the table and definitely be able to break out this season.

[Raz Goldongure]

I was gonna say I love, love that pick for you. I see you going with your Canadians there. Oh, yeah. And. And she really showed us what she could do in that one on one tournament, making it all the way to go up against Fee. Um, so it was really awesome.

[Logan Hackett]

Yeah. I really, really hope that she does. Well, they obviously broadcast you here and everything, so we'll watch her every move. But the other player I have is Alicia Gray and she was rookie of the year in 2017. Has been also the past two years. But I feel like she's entering her prime both on and off the court. Might be recency bias because I've seen her everywhere lately. But in Unraveled she averaged 19.1 points, 5.5 rebounds. And I love her dynamic with Ryan. I feel like they've gotten a lot more closer, maybe during Unravel during the past few months, but as a guard duo, they're going to be lethal.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah. I think that entire dream team got really close during Unrivaled. Don't forget Jordan Canada and Ryan Howard literally like holding hands at unrivaled. And then the love they showed for Brittney Griner. That's going to be a squad that already likes each other. And I feel you like also the more we see of Alicia Gray, like the more we love of her. I just can't get over her personality too.

[Logan Hackett]

Yes. And her accent, the twang to it. I. I'm obsessed. Let's move on to the West Rose. Who are you picking to have a breakout season there?

[Raz Goldongure]

You know, we talked a little bit about Unrivaled. We'll be also got to look to Athletes Unlimited, these two off season leagues that are great at development. Both of the players I'm pointing out, Maddie Segrist and Lexi Brown played in Nashville at AU this summer. And I thought, Matt, you know, first of all, shout out to the champion. Maddie Sears was the AU champion and that's. She's trending up. She's growing in confidence. You know this, that she'll come back to Dallas this year. And last year she got an uptick in minutes which led to an uptick in production. She was being talked about potentially for most improved and that's with her missing a chunk of the season with a finger injury. So now she can come back with this confidence, with this growth, hopefully with health and. And I think there's room for her to establish herself as a, as a top option for Dallas. And she's only heading into her third season. I do want to show love to my girl Lexi Brown heading into Seattle. You know, she's got a lot of heart and resilience and she's had a public battle with Crohn's disease and she's a fighter. And a lot of the gaps in her career or ups and downs have been things out of her control and she continues to fight for it. And I think, you know, she admitted that being traded to Seattle came as a surprise to her. I think her toughness and the respect that she gets will, will help her fit in in Seattle. And boy, does Seattle need Lexi Brown. Shooting like the storm. Were dead last in three point per shooting, three point percentage shooting last season in the W, they shot like 28%. Well, when Lexi has consistent minutes and an opportunity to like really get comfortable, she's been a great three point shooter in 2022 and 2023. She shot about 40% from, from the three and she's a career 36% three point shooter. So if she stays healthy and is able to, I think she can help them and find a nice role with Seattle. What about you?

[Logan Hackett]

I feel like health is going to be huge this season, but actually on that topic, I have cambrink and I love a good comeback season, but I was kind of going through her numbers. She only played 14 games, had some pretty good games in there. But she had a chance to do what a lot of players haven't had the chance to do, which is spend time off the court studying the game. I mean, when players are playing, obviously they're in it, but it's completely different when you're outside. It's almost like she's getting a visualization.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah.

[Logan Hackett]

And she's been able to kind of integrate herself in a different way. So it'll be really interesting to see how she comes into the Sparks and the duo with Rekiya Jackson. Again, we have to mention that I think it's going to be crazy good.

[Raz Goldongure]

But Kia might have a breakout season too.

[Logan Hackett]

Oh yeah, the both of them. And I really think we're going to see Kill a Cam, which I cannot wait. Kill a Cam in the W. So much fun. But staying with Seattle to Gabby Williams, we've seen her excel in the Euroleague and playing overseas. She Kind of reminds me of Az fun in a way, but was the best defensive player of the Paris Olympics. With that said, we haven't really seen that play kind of in the W and on a consistent basis. But fun fact, she's the highest paid player on the Storm this season. So they're expecting a lot out of her. I think we're expecting a lot out of her and I think she can do it this season.

[Raz Goldongure]

Absolutely. And it'll be interesting to see, you know, Gabby if and Cam and all these players if they have. It's been an issue of either availability. Maybe it might have been overseas contracts, it might have been injuries, it might have been health issues that have like kind of made these players stumble. But like with the right fit, you know that and, and also the right situation that can allow them to just be the best versions of themselves. So we're looking for a breakout.

[Logan Hackett]

I think we're gonna see a ton this season.

[Raz Goldongure]

A ton of breakouts.

[Logan Hackett]

Yeah. Coming up, Ross sits down with friend to the show, WNB veteran Monique Billings of the brand new Golden State Valkyries. We'll be right back.

[Raz Goldongure]

Hey, what's up? Good follow. This is Roz Golden Wood and today we have an interview and a chance to chat with somebody that you guys have already seen. She's been on the show, she's been a co host with us. She's a friend to the show. But today we're going to take a moment to get to know a bit more about her and her journey. We've got an eight year WNBA veteran, a UCLA grad, most recently of the brand spanking new Golden State Valkyries. My girl, my friend, my little sis, Monique Billings. What's up, Mo?

[Monique Billings]

What's up? First of all, thank you for the intro. I'm always happy to be on the good follow show pod.

[Raz Goldongure]

Absolutely. Girl. You know, you've actually made our show so much better. Whenever you're on like the energy changes because we actually created a segment for you. Right. Setting our intentions with Mo. So for this interview I want to set intentions with you. Do you have some for this upcoming month?

[Monique Billings]

I love that. Yeah, I mean similar I think to the last time that I joined just being present. There's so much going on in our lives. We were talking off air about our moving and traveling and all the things that we're doing. It could be hard to be right where where our feet are. I'm here in the Bay Area now, about to embark on this new journey with my new team which I'm so excited for But I'm just really focused on being joyful through it. And joy comes being in the present. So that's what I am intentional about these days, being right where my feet are.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yes, yes. Present. And there's something to be said about like I've landed and set foot. I am physically present in the bay, ready for the season. Training camp starts the 27th.

[Monique Billings]

Yes. This Sunday.

[Raz Goldongure]

Oh my goodness. So much going on that weekend. 20 coming 27th, camp. 28th. My birthday.

[Monique Billings]

It is birthday season. We're Tauruses.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yes, yes. When is yours, Mo?

[Monique Billings]

May 2nd.

[Raz Goldongure]

Oh my God. Don't make me have to fly to the bay and do do a little joint dinner or something.

[Monique Billings]

I would love that.

[Raz Goldongure]

I would do it. Don't even play with me.

[Monique Billings]

I know that birthday month is very reflective and like a time to not only set intentions, but like to take a moment for yourself. So like, what is your intention going into your birthday week? I know this past season of life has been crazy in a good way for you. Like where are you at with everything?

[Raz Goldongure]

Well, for this next season of life, I haven't even gotten up to that yet because it's been a big start to 2025. I feel very hopeful and enthusiastic about what's coming and I feel like this is like a major like abundance segment. Just the flow segment, you know, like hitting flow state, you know, just move doubling down on the work and the grind you've already put in and see seeing all of those hopes and dreams and efforts come to fruition. You know, for me, an intention I'm setting those is kind of evaluating friendships and relationships in my life and making sure that those haven't stagnated and that we're still in a growth space and if not, what can I do to water those relationships or let some go, especially if it's not a two way street. So a little bit of a what is being poured into me, an evaluation of that right now for my intentions.

[Monique Billings]

I love that.

[Raz Goldongure]

Thank you, sis. You know, but as far as like circles and pouring into others, we've always had that with each other. Mo, I remember you at UCLA when you were a college player balling out Corey Close. And you know, you were a huge part of building the legacy and like what UCLA basketball is right now. And I remember you and like, this is why you're my little sis. I was working for PAC12 Networks. I was a broadcaster covering you and you were like, roz, I really want to be a broadcaster one day and I want to do what you're doing. And you didn't just walk it. You talked. I mean, you didn't just talk it. You walked it. Like, you actually came with me. Remember, you came with me to. To Lakers practice and shadowed me.

[Monique Billings]

Of course. First of all, I was, like, enamored by you when I first met you, because I'm like, who is this woman? She's doing all the things I want to do. Like, she just flows from within and with that, like, from outside, too. And at that time, I'm probably like 18, 19 years old, so I'm just like, oh, my gosh, fangirling. And you were so kind. It was at Pac told media day. And so from there, I was like, that's big sis. I need to learn from her because she's doing all the things that I want to do one day. And then, yeah, as the relationship grew, it's funny because, like, we started becoming friends. But you would interview me after the game, so it'd be like, hey, girl, will you get them shoes?

[Raz Goldongure]

Okay.

[Monique Billings]

What you doing? Like, you know what I mean? Like, the relationship started to grow. And then, yeah, you invited me to that Lakers practice. And I, at the time, broke college student, took an Uber to get there. And I didn't even care how much it costed because I was like, this is such an opportunity. Like, I need to go. I need to be in the building. And you were always so kind and just gracious towards me. And it's nice that the friendship has continued to evolve because, like, a lot of times you hear about a young girl admiring someone and she wasn't kind to them or she kind of turned them down. No, you can't come to the Lakers practice with me. You were never like that. You were always real, always so kind and genuine, even to this day. So I'm forever grateful, Mo.

[Raz Goldongure]

That really means a lot to me to get that reflection from you. And you know who? All I knew was that you were a really great Hooper. Tenacious on the glass, you know, a great athlete, huge smile, and you were eager about broadcasting. Like, you know, I just wanted to, you know, show up. I had no idea that we would really become friends in the way that we are. Like, it's crazy, the movement from little sis to, like, more recently, I'm like, yo, most of my real homegirl, like, we really can talk about things. And it's funny because I would do those interviews with you at the Pack 12 Networks, and literally, I'd be waiting for them to send it to me. And you, you'd literally be like, oh, girl, like your fit, where you get your shoes from, like 3, 2, 1, mo. What did you think about the effort you put on those boards? And so like that moment before we went live. But honestly, I'm so glad. I'm so proud of you because you had that vision for yourself to become a broadcaster. And look at you now. Not only are you a full time incredible professional Hooper and WNBA player, you are a blossoming broadcaster with real motion. I see you everywhere. Most recently you were just covering March Madness. I'm worried. Good follow show. We're not going to be able to book you soon, girl. So. So can you break it down to me, like everything you're doing in broadcasting and maybe what's your favorite part about building this career for yourself?

[Monique Billings]

Yeah. Oh my goodness. It's been a very fruitful off season. I've been broadcasting since 2019, but it was like I do a couple games and then go into my W season. It wasn't anything, I'm not going to say serious, but I just didn't have too many gigs just getting my feet wet. But this season specifically, I really was able to do a lot of different work. And so I did like you said, March Madness. I did my first NBA game with the warriors that was a lot of fun. Even like ESPN2 debut, which was super cool. All these vision board items are coming into fruition and so yeah, it's been amazing. And then I just hope that I can continue, like if I can just do this in the off season and then play my W season, like that's perfect world for me.

[Raz Goldongure]

You must be the queen of balancing a schedule and a calendar. Like, how are you doing that?

[Monique Billings]

Yeah, that's a really good question. I mean, when you're, you know, when you're passionate about it, like you make it happen. Like we are business women. We get it done and that's just what it's about. So it's like making time for the, for the things that are important, but also finding that balance so you don't get burned out. So for me, I'm big on self care. If I'm traveling to cover a game or do some type of production, I'm probably going to the spa the day before if I'm able to. I'm gonna go get my nails done. I'm gonna go get a facial. I'm gonna do something for me. And you talk about pouring into your cup. I'm gonna do something to pour into my cup because that's so important to me. Yeah.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah. And like, I really enjoy and actually admire that about you. In some ways, you've been like kind of a mentor or the inspiration for how do I bring wellness into everything that I'm striving for? You know, because you'd be busy, but you also have that Zen side. How did you find your voice and your passion for things like yoga or eating healthy? I know I've asked you a million times about eating healthy and just overall wellness. Where did you find that Lane for yourself?

[Monique Billings]

Yeah. I would say that lane comes from my dad. He was a big. I don't know, he gave me the starter pack, I would say, of how to build wellness in my life. He would always tell me, mind, body, spirit, that's what you need to stay in alignment. And so from a young age, I was always hearing that and seeing him do it. I was seeing him eating healthy, but also having balance with that. So maybe 80% of the time, 90% of the time healthy, but every now and then we're going to go get a donut burger, we're going to go get a milkshake, and that adds to that balance. So it feels good to eat healthy because, you know, like, when you do eat that grimy stuff, you know, you've earned it. So I don't know, just the different factors, my dad has really poured that into me and it's just so important to me Now I'm all about feeling good and I want people around me to feel good, too. So I love sharing that information as much as I can.

[Raz Goldongure]

Absolutely. I would like a picture next time you're eating a donut burger because I don't believe you. A donut burger sounds gross.

[Monique Billings]

Better than a picture. You're gonna come with me next time I'm in la.

[Raz Goldongure]

Listen, if I had abs like you, I would have a donut burger, too. But I. I am trying to get where you're at, sis. Like, you know, remember we used to take hikes together, too?

[Monique Billings]

I was gonna say, we'll go get a donut burger. We'll go hike. So it's like it just balances out.

[Raz Goldongure]

So it balances out. Hey, speaking of projects, you working on? You got something cooking right now? I mean, what's going on here? I hear a buzz.

[Monique Billings]

I do, I do. Got something on the flame. I'm working with Players tv. I'm super excited. I can't say too much yet, but it has a lot to do with actually a lot of what we've talked about today. Intention, balance, those sorts of things. I'm gonna be in an interviewer role, which I'm really excited for.

[Logan Hackett]

So.

[Monique Billings]

Yeah, stay tuned to that.

[Raz Goldongure]

Absolutely. Maybe we'll flip the script. Well, I don't know. We'll see. But I would love.

[Monique Billings]

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll talk.

[Raz Goldongure]

Okay. Soon come. A little tease there. Let's take it to another chapter of your career in life. You know, you've played all over the world outside of the WNBA in the off season you've played all over. Most recently China. Yes. And. And you left early. Why? And can you share a bit about, you know, where your thought process was as you came back from China?

[Monique Billings]

Yeah, totally. So I've played in 10 countries now. This is my second time playing in China. First time I was a rookie, wet behind the ears, wide eyed, 21 years old and it was just a totally new experience for me. I didn't know what to expect overseas. I was there four months and it was cool. I was able to survive it. This time around it was just a very different vibe. I'm going into year eight so I understand how precious my body is. And it's not the same as that 21 year old who can just run all day and not have to do as much recovery and not have to take as much time to rest. And so this time around we're playing three times a week. It was very demanding and my body was just like, sis, what are you trying to get from this? What are we doing? And I had to listen to that body, started hurting, wasn't feeling great like it had when I first got there. And so I just had to weigh my options. Is this serving me? I can't be the best version of myself for this team right now. So I need to remove myself so they can bring in what they need. Because again it's business. This body is a business, that team is a business. And so a business decision had to be made and I had to. Yeah, protect my piece essentially.

[Raz Goldongure]

And protect your body and your asset and your business and choose yourself. You know all the things. Yes. And you know it's during a time and a shift a little bit on mindset around like what is possible in the off season for women's basketball players especially with like unrivaled and athletes unlimited overall. I mean 10 countries is a healthy career overseas to be proud of. It's also a cool life experience, you know. But how do you reflect on your experience playing overseas and from like a macro mindset. Is it worth it for. For players like should there be more options? Is this the way you see it? Continuing to Go.

[Monique Billings]

Yeah, great question. Totally think it's worth it. I've had so many beautiful life experiences, stories, people that I've met, people who call me their best friends in all these parts of the world. And I've been able to travel to again and see them in different seasons of life. Quick story. I needed a hair braider. I was playing in Russia in 2020. I go on Instagram trying to find a hair braider. I find a couple, a Russian couple. They come to the house, braid my hair. Barely speak a lick of English. But we vibed and they became my friends. I didn't have friends or family out there and I'm snowed in most of the time. They would come over, we would watch the Matrix, I would cook food because they never had like soul food or anything like that. And it's like those experiences are so enriching and just things that you can't even. You can't buy experiences like that or make that type of stuff up. And so been able to have so many incredible experiences like that that pour and fill in to my cup. So I totally think it's worth it. I think it just depends on the individual player because everyone has different priorities. Some people want to get as much money as they can through playing basketball. And if you want that bag overseas, has that bag. At the same time, there's other players who might want to build stuff here in the state. State side and only play in the W. Or focus on, like you said, a unrivaled. And that's cool too. Everyone has different priorities. So I just think it's about knowing what your priorities are. But me personally, I wouldn't change my experience for anything. Like I said, I've been able to travel the world, have connections all over the world. It's been so fruitful.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah, yeah. You know, and I think that also comes with an understanding of self. Right. But only you would be in Russia bonding over soul food and braiding. And you managed to find a couple that hair braids together, speaking no common language. And it's just vibes like that. So. So. Okay, well, that might, you know, be great preparation for what you're stepping into with your WNBA career. The first six seasons of your career were in Atlanta with the dream.

[Monique Billings]

Yeah.

[Raz Goldongure]

And recently you've had a few stops. You've been with the Dallas Wings, the Phoenix Mercury. But the most recent one is like almost like a clean slate. This franchise is brand, brand new. You're joining the Golden State Valkyries. What does this stop and chapters signify in Your career, it's a restart.

[Monique Billings]

I'm so excited for this stop because it's not even a stop. I'm excited for this start, I should say. It's just something new. Yes, it's something new. So much to learn on both ends. This is a new franchise that wants to do it the right way. They're pouring into us as athletes, giving us the resources and allowing us to have an experience that all W players should be able to have. And so I'm already impressed, very grateful for that. And at the same time, like I'm going into year eight, I know in my career that I don't have eight more years to go, right? Me personally, I probably could if I wanted to, but I know myself, I know that I don't want to play eight more years. And so me knowing that I'm in the second half of my career, I want to enjoy it. And it's just such a blessing to be able to be a part of history in a new situation in a city that I've never lived in. My parents are from here, so it's very full circle for me. So like I said, it's a restart for me and I'm very grateful and excited.

[Raz Goldongure]

What is the legacy and respect that you feel you've established in this league over the course of now, heading into your eighth season?

[Monique Billings]

I would say the legacy that I hope to leave on people is that I just worked really, really hard. I was a hard worker and a good person. Those are the two things that I value most. Points, rebounds, all that stuff is cool. Obviously I want to win and be great on the court. But the long lasting impact is who you are as a person and how you're felt through all of the stops that you go through. And what I've learned is everyone's journey looks different. It's not always going to be a pretty picture, but it's a mosaic for me. I've learned. How are you impacting people along the way? If something last season things didn't go how I would have wanted them to, but in hindsight it went how it needed to because if it didn't go that way, I don't think I would have this opportunity that I have now. Placement is everything. Me being a woman of faith and just knowing and trusting that like God is going to put me where I'm meant to be. So if I'm in one market for a little bit, how can I positively impact that market? The people around me, how can I be a light for them? Because you never Know who's watching you? You never. 20 years from now, people are going to say, mo, you don't even realize. But the way you showed up as a pro every day, your mentality, your mindset like that rubbed off on me so much. And so I know that there's a bigger picture and a bigger reason for all of this that we're going through. Again, it's not just about the wins and the losses, but it's like, how are you being a light? How are you impacting people around me? And so I would say that's the legacy that I'd want to leave. That's my focus now as I'm in Year eight.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah. I mean, you are a light, and the Valkyries are so lucky to have you as they try to establish culture in year one. And, you know, you talk about, you know, the perspective you have. Even to make it eight seasons in the W is hard. There's just not a lot of spots. They're just now expanding. Yeah. What does it take to stick in the wnba, especially as somebody who may not be an Olympian or a superstar, but they are a strong star on a team, a strong role player. And how hard is it to stick in this league?

[Monique Billings]

I mean, first of all, I'm so lucky, and I'm just so blessed. I've been in really good situations. I feel like it's just situational for everybody. It helps if you play for coaches who like you. And that was my first years in Atlanta. My coach was high on me, really liked how I played. That helped me a lot to stick. I think it's also about knowing what you bring to a team and bringing that every day, almost like having a niche. So for me, that's rebounding. That's my athleticism, my hustle. Those are my gifts that are natural to me. And if my shot's not falling or if whatever I might be going through, I know that I can rely on. That's my backbone. Like, you gonna get that regardless. So I think it's all about knowing what you bring. And again, like, it's all about fit. How you. How you stick on a team is if a team needs you and if you're able to fit on that team, those are the most important things. And again, everyone's journey kind of looks different. Sometimes it's ugly, but once you. You find that pocket where you stick, and it's like, oh, this team needs me. I went through that last season. Wasn't the prettiest on paper, but I had my best season. So you know what I mean? I was on teams that needed what I brought, which was such a blessing. Being repositioned and having to pivot aren't necessarily bad things. It might be looked at as a bad thing sometimes, but if it puts you in a situation where you're able to elevate yourself at the end, it's a win. So I think it's all about knowing what you bring to a team. Being a star in your role. That's the most important thing.

[Raz Goldongure]

Absolutely. And that's not just for basketball. That is for life. These are absolute bars. And in the face of adversity, last season, you know, sometimes you got popped in with a new team in the middle of the season and still have statistically excellent seasons. That's hard to do. So we are so excited to see friend to the show, our very own Monique Billings do her thing with the Golden State Valkyries from a full season from training camp on. We wish you the best of luck and you're gonna stick it, stick it out with us for another segment of the show though, right? You ain't going nowhere.

[Monique Billings]

Thank you. And yeah, I'm chilling. I'm cozy.

[Raz Goldongure]

I'm so proud of you.

[Monique Billings]

Thank you. Love you, Appreciate you. That'd be too.

[Raz Goldongure]

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[Raz Goldongure]

Welcome back to Good Follow presented by DraftKings DraftKings the Crown is yours. Mo Billings is still with us after an incredible opportunity to just talk and chat one on one and have a little girl time. Interview time. Oh, but before we jump into some fun, we have a game for you guys. You know, we love games here.

[Monique Billings]

You love a game.

[Raz Goldongure]

We do want to break down the latest with the Valkyries and what they got done in the 2025 draft, especially when we have Valkyries players here. So Mo, help us kind of break down and do a draft recap for the Golden State Valkyries. Logan.

[Logan Hackett]

Well, the WMA draft wrapped up and the Valkyries were actually one of the top noisemakers, I guess when they drafted just a yoste at number five and she's a 19 year old girl from Lithuania, been making waves overseas since 13 years old. But y'all also picked up Cheyenne Sellers, six two guard from Maryland. And I think my favorite part of the draft was Caitlin chang getting drafted 30th overall. So actually two part question, A, have you met all of them? And B, who do you see making the biggest impact for the Valkyries this season?

[Monique Billings]

Been able to meet all but just say she's still abroad right now, but Cheyenne and Caitlin came I think last week and so we went to like a Warriors game and it was cool being able to spend some time with my little Ricky babies. And you said, who do I think is going to make the biggest impact? That's a good question. I mean, let me get through one practice first and see how we're looking as a team, you know, but. But I think both were still all. I think both were steals in the draft who are here stateside and then just stay when I think she's coming maybe next season. So I think she'll have some time to get her mind right. She got a whole year to figure out whatever she needs to before coming to the bay, but I think all three were great choices. It's funny watching it, I had no idea really what direction they were going to go in. And so yeah, I'm just excited to see how it all comes together.

[Raz Goldongure]

Do you feel like it all fits the identity that's growing of this team?

[Monique Billings]

I think so. I think the biggest thing coach wanted is good people who work hard. From what I've seen on the court from all three of those ladies, totally see that. I think that's going to be our identity. Like I said, good people that work.

[Raz Goldongure]

Really, really hard, good hearts, big workers. Yeah, we love that. Are y'all ready to play a game?

[Monique Billings]

I'm so ready.

[Logan Hackett]

So Ready?

[Raz Goldongure]

Let's. Let's play a game. We got VO here, and guess what? We have a new game called the good follow draft. It is the all motion edition. I love seeing a graphic. Okay, so the question here is, who got motion? All right, who got the juice? And so we've created our own all WNBA team, all motion team. We've got a draft and everything. And guys, I'm just looking at the rules here. This is a measure of off the court motion. Okay, do you got that going? Visibility, attention, being a fashion killer, iconic moments that the people remember and get some talking bag. Securing brand deals, rollouts, podcast launches, mogul talk, ownership, and just the overall captivation of their audience. So we talking about who got the motion. Okay, Logan, take them through the rules.

[Logan Hackett]

So Ros, Mo and I will each pick one active player from the categories, which are class of 20, 24 vets, WNBA royalty, and then we each get one sub to build out the all motion teams. But the key is once a player gets drafted, they can't be taken again, so you really got to get that good pick in. Are y'all ready?

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah, ready.

[Logan Hackett]

All right, let's take a look at the board. Starting with the 2024 rookies. Mo, you have the very first pick. Who are you going with?

[Monique Billings]

First pick? I'm going Rekia for a very short time. She was my rookie when I was in la and I like just seeing how she's blossomed. I think she's blossomed a ton. Stepping into just herself, the things she wants to do off the court. So I got Kia.

[Logan Hackett]

What about you, Roz?

[Raz Goldongure]

Oh, I like that pick. Plus Rekia, you know, she got the sketcher, she got the beats, brand deals. She's, you know, features in slam. And I really think she popped out on unrivaled, not only with her basketball play, but as far as off the court. Just her arrivals and tunnel fits. Like she really, I'm taught. I think I said it before in another show. Get your Rekia stock now. Stock's going up. Yeah, this is a tough one because the entire draft class of 2024 is like a game changer for the game of basketball. Like, everybody's got crazy motion. That's why they got their own, like, segment. I think if you want to talk, if you want to be with the biggest, the baddest, you got to be talking about Caitlin and Angel. And this is a tough one, but I just think, like, Angel's team deserves an award. Oh, they are crushing it. Super mega motion. She's drowning in Motion. Like, she got the podcast, she got the McDonald's Happy Meal. She bought herself a home recently. Just announced, retired her mother. She did a Vogue cover, the Reebok collection collaboration, all the things like Angels. Motion is crazy. What about you, Logan?

[Logan Hackett]

I'm actually gonna take the other. I'm going with Caitlin Clark for this one. First of all, on the court, it's Caitlin Clark. We know exactly what she's doing. But off the court, I think she has motion in the same way, but she's kind of turning it into a businesswoman role. We've been seeing her on panels recently, doing stuff with the NFL and kind of following in the footsteps of Serena Williams. Like, when she retires, she'll probably end up buying a team, kind of going that way, and we haven't really seen that in the wnba, so love to see it. And she's also starting to build her fits up. I'm finding that with each event, she's kind of escalating. Maybe she got a stylist, I don't know. But I'm going with Caitlin Clark for this one.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah, she's got a different vibe. Her and angel do it different. They're both building empires. Right. Like, clearly. I mean, for Caitlyn, I'll just. Nike deal. Gatorade. Selling out arenas recently, it just showed that her fanatic, her fanatics in jersey sales for the NBA, she's the number two selling jersey. She's not in the NBA after Stephen Curry and then, you know, number one in wnba and she was the time athlete of the year. Like, respect to all of this. Cameron Brink, shout out to you. Stanford grad just dropped a podcast and.

[Logan Hackett]

We got a shout out.

[Monique Billings]

Kate Martin, too. She's my new teammate, so hopefully my girl doesn't get mad for me not picking her, but I love my.

[Raz Goldongure]

And now she has great motion, too. Like, unexpected, quiet motion. Like, in the sense. Like, did you know at one point last season, her jersey was number four sales in the wnba? Number four.

[Monique Billings]

Yeah, that's.

[Raz Goldongure]

She wasn't even. She was in the stands for the draft.

[Monique Billings]

Yeah.

[Raz Goldongure]

Wasn't even expected to get drafted. So she got motion and shout out. We need some international flair with Camila Cardoso out of Brazil. So shout out to the class of 2024. An iconic, iconic class.

[Logan Hackett]

Well, y'all moving on to the second group. Raj, you're up first this time. Who are you taking out of the vets?

[Raz Goldongure]

Zachary. Ooh, this is a tough one. Out of the veteran group, there's a lot, you know, like, I'm see. Well, first of all, our girl Mo Billings is in there.

[Monique Billings]

Okay.

[Raz Goldongure]

She's doing all the broadcasting, the Athleta longtime partnership there, the brand deals. Since you're here, I'm not going to pick you though. Sorry.

[Monique Billings]

Okay.

[Raz Goldongure]

Okay. Probably the player who has the most motion at the moment. I don't know. Dijonay. I'm go with my girl Dijonay Carrington right now. Dijonay just got the Reebok deal. She did the, what you call it, the one size setting spray. And we were all wondering how does she keep her face so beat during the games, you know? But I also think some of that's genetics.

[Monique Billings]

Like I could probably.

[Raz Goldongure]

I'ma still buy the one size setting spray. And you know, she's been a fashion killer. But. But I'd also say look at, look at Satus ably with the Adidas partnership. That's huge.

[Logan Hackett]

Well, for this one, I'm actually going to go with Sidney Coulson purely because of her aura and her energy. I am absolutely obsessed with it. But she has been everywhere recently. I think she was with Yahoo for the March Madness and some of the clips from that were so incredibly funny. But I think she's had motion for a while, but it's starting to build up. And obviously great addition to Indiana social pop up pop off even more this year. But I love her so much. What about you, Monique?

[Monique Billings]

That's a good choice. I'm going to pay. She was my vet in Atlanta for five seasons. Now. My teammate here at Golden State recently has created her own brand. I think it's called Sariah. It's a clothing brand. Okay, I'm messing it up. My bad tip. But super excited for her and her brand. I just, I like the content that she's been putting out. I see her doing a lot more of that type of stuff. Obviously the clothes are fire. She's getting into the fashion space. Saw her the other day at practice. I'm like, what you doing for the rest of the day? She was like, I'm about to go do a photo shoot. I'm like Tiffany Hayes doing a photo shoot. Like this is unheard of years ago. So I think she's stepping into new lanes and really getting into that new motion.

[Raz Goldongure]

Motion and mogul talk. Ownership of her own company, her own fashion brand. She's wearing her own designs. Shout out to Saya. And actually she had the Walker campaign to the boxer brief company. And remember, it was actually Natasha Cloud who put a lot of motion on the to say the poppies of the league. Don't forget the poppies. So shout out to Natasha Cloud had a huge interview on the pivot as well. Yeah, I will. Sid Colson, though, is really cool because you don't have to be a superstar to be big. Like, her personality permeates. She actually has her own shoe. She's doing commercials, national commercials, and likes to coin herself face of the league. We love that motion.

[Logan Hackett]

Okay, well, for the next group, Ross, you were just talking about being a mogul. And for the WNBA royalty, I'm actually going to go with Nafisa Collier because she is a businesswoman. She has so much motion with Unrivaled. They made absolute waves this year and she was just named a time person of the year. Her and Stewie together. But I love what she's doing. I think that's a trailblazer move. A pioneer. She's going to be a pioneer in this space.

[Raz Goldongure]

Well, you can't forget Stewie then because she's a co founder of unrivaled.

[Logan Hackett]

Mentioned to Stewie.

[Monique Billings]

Right, right.

[Raz Goldongure]

With an honorable mention to Stewie. But you know, both of them were just named to the time 100 most influential people. Like not even just like athletes, like people. And that is really significant, their historical impact on the way we look at women athletes and sports and leagues. So they definitely, like, they're. They're just. The motion is crazy right now for them. But I also got to point out Asia Wilson, like, duh, you know, like, like duh, duh. Okay, so the A1 rollout, not only was it a cool signature shoe that was beautiful, but it was also very thoughtful. She thought about who she was talking to, her consumer in a way that a lot of times I feel like, quite frankly, a black female audience hadn't been like the satin inside of the hoodie for your hair. I've never seen that before. I've never been like, I've never been thought of that way by a big time brand like Nike before recently she was just in vogue like a couple days ago. Obviously the jersey retired in South Carolina, but maybe the cutest and I'm gonna call it motion because it's also a part of. Of lore. The hard launch of her love story here for it. I just need Asia right now. She seems to be glowing and happy and. And in. In an era of abundance and we love to see that for her. What about you, Mo?

[Monique Billings]

I think that's great. I'm going queen Neca just because I see the work that Neca has done put this league on her Back for a very long time. She's the president of the wnbpa. Always so graceful and elegant, but so fierce on the court. You don't want to go against her. Motion wise, I see her stepping up her fit. She posts on the gram. I'm like, okay, Meg hurt you and you, Logan had mentioned businesswoman. I think with Caitlin Clark, I totally see that with NECA one day owning teams or, I don't know, being the commissioner of the W one day, I see that for her. And so I just always have admired her motion.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah, you know what? I'll piggyback that because Madame Presidente Neka Ogumike, that's also my sis and my teammate. I played with her at Stanford and everything she's doing for me, as someone who, like, has been alongside her, nothing about is surprising for me. I've enjoyed also seeing the personal growth, like you said, the expression of self through fashion. You know, her choosing her moments to share more of self when she wants to on top because she's a natural caretaker. And I think so much of her life, whether it's been being the big sis of the Iglooma k girls or being the leader in the locker room or literally being the president and leader of the entire players association for the WNBA and getting you through a CBA or a pandemic or all these different things, you know, like that's. That's a natural state for her. And I'm excited to also see her grow out being kind and frilly with herself because she deserves it. Quick shout out to Sabrina Yanescue just came off of her Asia tour. Her sneaker, the Sabrina's Nike sneaker is one of the most successful sneaker launches of men or women's. It's everywhere. Every player is wearing it. We're talking about a champion body, body armor, Home Depot, State Farm commercials.

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She.

[Raz Goldongure]

The things you mentioned for Caitlin Clark, she's got a lot of those types of brands and deals too. So all of these women are. Are incredible businesswomen. And Skylar Diggins Smith fashion killer, my favorite of them all. And of course, all the drops she's done with Puma. She's really been very creative with her line.

[Logan Hackett]

Yeah, well, y'all, sadly, we ran out of times to do the subs, but y'all let us know who you're picking for that. And as for the team, Roz has Angel Reese, DJ Carrington and Asia Wilson. Mo has Rekia Jackson, Tiffany Hayes and Neko McKay. And I have Caitlin Clark, Sydney Coulson and Nafisa Collier. But coming up, I make my DK game pick of the week and we have some quick hits for you. So we'll be right back. Welcome back to Goodfellow. This segment is presented by DraftKings. This Saturday, Audie Field sets the stage for an intense match between Gotham FC and Washington Spirit. The Spirit have been on a roll after handing Orlando their first loss of the season with a huge one nil win. Their veteran striker Ashley Hatch is having an insanely good season, leading the league with four goals in five games. But on the other side, Esther Gonzalez for Gotham is also going crazy with four four goals in five games as well. Washington is incredibly deep and Gotham has been holding it down on defense, but I'm going to go with Washington to get the win at their home field of Rowdy Audi Stadium. This segment is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours and the crown is yours.

[Raz Goldongure]

When we get to the segment, I know it is time for our quick hits and headlines. So what do you got, Logan?

[Logan Hackett]

Well, speaking of the Spirit, they beat Orlando with an insult. Insanely bad, I guess. Availability report. They're down 11 players with seven of them being super and one questionable. Yeah, so this was like a huge win. But one of those players is Trinity Rodman and she is out indefinitely seeking help for her back in London, so hope she's okay. Side note, she did make her WAG debut watching Ben in Germany. She looked amazing. Moving on, Paige Beckers was honored with a hometown day namesake. Hopkins, Minnesota is honoring her with a temporary renaming on May 16th. First thing I could think about is what if a baby is born on that day? Are they going to be born in Paige Beckers, Minnesota?

[Raz Goldongure]

Oh, I think that's even cooler. Paige Beckersville.

[Logan Hackett]

Yeah, and we actually mentioned this earlier on in the show, but Caitlin Clark is number two in the WNBA and NBA jersey sales outsell outselling players like LeBron James, Anthony Edwards and Jalen Brunson. The number one spot is of course Steph Curry. But having Caitlin up there with those players, insane. She got the motion.

[Raz Goldongure]

She got that motion. And Logan, we got that motion. Or we're trying to have the motion. But this was a show full of motion because we had our girl, Mo Billings come and join us. Thank her so much for just always pulling up for us and we thank you guys for coming and watching. Tell your friends. If you got to this point in the show and you haven't already, please subscribe, Follow our Socials Comment like all the things, it means a lot to us as we build this show out. We're having a lot of fun with y'all doing this. Logan, it's been great to see you. My girl.

[Logan Hackett]

You as well. Great show.

[Raz Goldongure]

Yeah.

[Monique Billings]

Yeah.

[Raz Goldongure]

And we do this every Wednesday, 7pm Eastern, wherever you get your podcasts or we drop on DraftKings Network or here on YouTube. That's the end of this show, but we will see you guys next week.

[Logan Hackett]

Bye, guys.