GOOD FOLLOW: New CBA Agreements, March Madness & More with Ashtyn Butoso

Summary

Podcast Summary: GOOD FOLLOW – New CBA Agreements, March Madness & More with Ashtyn Batuso

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Date: March 24, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode of “Good Follow” dives deep into two headline topics in women’s basketball: the new WNBA Collective Bargaining Agreement and all things March Madness, featuring insightful, humorous, and critical discussion between hosts Juju Gotti, Trista Craig, and special guest Ashtyn Batuso (writer for Off Ball Newsletter & Flagrant Magazine). The conversation blends celebration and skepticism about the progress in women’s sports, a playful “delulu” segment on 2026’s WNBA free agency, and bold predictions for the NCAA women’s basketball tournament.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. WNBA’s New CBA: Celebration and Skepticism

• Headline Details (01:33)

  • New salary cap jumps from $1.5M to $7M.
  • Average revenue share is “nearly 20%.”
  • Supermax salary at $1.4M; average salary ~$600K; minimum salary above $300K.
  • “We're closer to the prize than we were yesterday.” – Juju Gotti (05:01)

• Reception Among Panelists

  • Excitement: All three acknowledge the significance of increased pay and improved conditions.
    • “I think it's very, very exciting.” – Ashtyn (02:32)
  • Skepticism: Trista and Ashtyn point out ambiguous CBA language and wish for more transparency.
    • “Average revenue share is nearly across. Deal. So what is it? I need specifics.” – Trista (02:56)
    • “Will we know? Will they tell us? Or is this as much as we'll ever know?” – Ashtyn (03:58)
  • Perspective vs. NBA: Comparison to NBA's historic 53% player share in ‘82-83.
    • “Will we ever get anywhere close to the men?” – Trista (04:02)
  • Conspiracy Humor:
    • “I have a conspiracy theory that the league intentionally physically exhausted the players to get them to say yes to a lower rev share.” – Ashtyn (05:13)

• Duration & Future Outlook

  • Lock-in is for 6 years, with opt-outs possible.
  • Panelists skeptical about quick parity with NBA; see it as incremental progress.

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2. 2026 WNBA Free Agency and ‘Delulu’ Dreams

• Complexity with Player Movement (07:33)

  • Over 100 free agents, but “core player” (franchise tag) limits major moves.
    • “The players you want to see move... many of them... cannot be moved. It’s called the core player designation.” – Trista (07:38)
  • Example: Brianna Stewart not core-designatable this year (per online sources).

• Who Would You Move? (08:44–11:14)

  • Imaginary and ‘Delulu’ Picks: Panelists take turns with realistic and purely wishful free agency wish lists.
  • Ashtyn shares an inside scoop:
    • “I actually asked Stewie this question yesterday... she suggested Arike [Ogunbowale].” (08:44)
      • “We start a rumor: Stewie’s bringing Arike over.” – Juju (09:15)
  • “Asia Wilson, you are now in Atlanta.” – Juju (09:48)
  • “Portland getting Jackie Young.” – Trista (10:28)
  • Ashtyn: Main draft note is to watch for the Portland expansion draft and effects on roster protection.

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3. March Madness Breakdown & Predictions

a. Dark Horses and Cinderella Teams

• Vanderbilt vs. High Point Preview (14:03)

  • Player highlights: Aubrey Galvin, Michaela Blake (Vandy); Macy Spencer (High Point).

• Cinderella Picks

  • “I think Oklahoma.” – Ashton (14:41)
  • “For me, this year, Cinderella is Duke.” – Trista (15:04)
    • Details rivalry and possible Duke-LSU upset path (strong defense, drama with Flau’jae Johnson and coach Kara Lawson).
      • “This is a team... that’s found their identity.” – Trista (15:04)
  • Upset Watch: Skeptical about a major bracket breaker, some hope for South Dakota State.
    • “I want so badly for that to be a possibility, but I just... I think we’re gonna see zero upsets.” – Ashtyn (17:20)
  • Juju’s bold pick: TCU falls to UC San Diego. (17:38)

b. Critique of Perennial Powerhouses

• “I'm ready for all the big dogs to... enough, you know? LSU, South Carolina, UConn…” – Ashtyn (16:41)
• Panel in consensus: time for new blood, even if process is difficult in women’s basketball.

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4. National Championship Predictions (18:17)

• Ashtyn: “UConn, UConn, UConn. And I’m ready for someone else, but... I would pull for UConn anyways because South Carolina’s been pissing me off... I have turned into South Carolina's number one hater, and I didn't even know this was within me.” (18:30)
• Juju: “I got South Carolina. Salute to the Gamecocks.” (19:10)
• Trista: “This UConn team might be end up the greatest UConn team ever... Sarah Strong could go down as the best player in college basketball history. And she's only a sophomore.” (19:38)
  • Talks up Sarah Strong’s legacy, Azzi Fudd’s draft prospects, and UConn’s depth.

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5. Memorable Quotes & Fun Moments

• “If my Bankroll went from 70k to around 300. I'm so sorry. I'm buying the bottle of Dom Perignon tonight, bruh.” – Juju Gotti celebrating the new minimum salary bump (05:47)
• “Always be the hater.” – Ashton, embracing the contrarian role on rooting against favorites. (16:53)
• “If you're a billionaire listening to this... pour in $20 million to a small team... That could be your thing, Mr. Billionaire. This could be all yours. You would get all the credit. We would bow down to you. It would be so fun.” – Ashton calling for WNBA parity and outside investment (20:50)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:33 — Juju introduces WNBA CBA changes and asks for reactions
• 02:32 – 04:55 — Ashton and Trista dissect CBA details and express skepticism about revenue share
• 05:13 – 05:34 — Ashton’s “conspiracy theory” about late-night CBA negotiations
• 07:33 – 10:55 — WNBA free agency “delulu corner” and real roster discussions
• 14:03 – 14:41 — March Madness Vanderbilt/High Point preview and Cinderella picks
• 15:04 – 16:25 — Trista’s in-depth analysis of Duke as a dark horse
• 18:30 – 19:47 — Championship picks and UConn/South Carolina rivalry; Sarah Strong hype
• 20:50 — Ashton’s pitch to billionaires for investing in women’s basketball

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Tone & Style

The conversation remains energetic, irreverent, and collaborative, with a healthy dose of skepticism, playful debate, and deadpan humor inherent to the “Good Follow” brand. The show is comfortable veering into “delulu” fantasy picks and theorizing, but also grounds discussion in the real progress and necessary critique of women’s pro basketball.

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking the heart of the episode—intelligent sports analysis, candid reactions, and the guest’s insight on both on-court and off-court developments in women’s basketball.

Transcript

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[Juju Gotti]

Welcome back to Good. Follow presented by DraftKings. I am Juju Gotti.

[Trista Craig]

I am Trista Craig.

[Juju Gotti]

And today we are joined by my sister. We have the same blood. We share the same mother and father. She writes for the Aufball Newsletter, a newsletter about sports and culture and all things, as well as the flagrant magazine. Eric. Eric. Eric. My sister, Ashton Batuso. How you doing?

[Ashton Batuso]

I'm good. What an introduction.

[Juju Gotti]

Yes, sir. Man. Let's get straight to it, man. We have reached a verbal agreement between the WNBA and the Players association on the new CBA term. And NECA shares some celebratory pictures of what it looked like in the room where it all happened. Look at them. Look at him. Like I was cheesing from ear to ear. Lord help me. So now that we're just 51 days before tip off, here's what the new terms will entail. You got to know, man. New salary cap starting at 7 million, up from 1.5 million. Average revenue share of nearly 20% across the deal. A supermax starting at 1.4 million. The average salary is in the range of 600,000 and the minimum is above of 300,000. Dab. Ashton, what do you think about this great news?

[Ashton Batuso]

I think it's very, very exciting. I am still sort of confused about how the rev share conversation went down because I know that was like the biggest thing and they said close to 20. And I'm like. But they were kind of close to 20 before. So, like, did they get to 20? Because I know they were asking for 24, but I don't want to split hairs. Basically, whatever the players think is good enough for them is good enough for me, and that's that.

[Trista Craig]

Ashton, I'm so glad you said that because you read this and we don't want to be Everybody's partying, everybody's in the streets with the pots and pans. And I love that. I Love parties. I love that we're getting a WNBA season. And, like, I'm not pocket watching. Like, it's not my money, that it's not my salary. I've got no skin in the game. But there's a. There's a lot of, like, words that make my. The hairs on my arm go up where it's like, average revenue share is nearly across. Deal. So what is it? I need. I need specifics. Yeah, yeah, I see the change in the salary cap, and that is phenomenal. But, like, I wonder really what the terms look like.

[Ashton Batuso]

And will we know? Will they tell us? Or is this as much as we'll ever know?

[Trista Craig]

I hope that they will tell us. I think that they will tell us. We're gonna find out. There's gonna be people investigating this thing down to the nano level. In 1982, 1983, when pretty much all of the NBA was broke and franchises were losing money left and right, they signed a CBA where the players got 53%. So, yeah, like, I'm kind of like, yo, we can't even get anywhere close to what it was when the NBA was, quote, unquote, dying or struggling. To me, it's kind of like, will we ever get anywhere close to the men?

[Juju Gotti]

But just as a reminder, she's not trying to rain on any dabs.

[Trista Craig]

Like, she's not writing for you all, like, 1.4 million. Asia's about to get her bread right now.

[Ashton Batuso]

The other thing is that this is six years. So you're talking, are we ever going to get close to the men? And it's like, not for six years. Seven years, I think six. They can opt out.

[Trista Craig]

And are they going to just go from nearly 20 to 50? Absolutely not. Right? Like, can't do that.

[Juju Gotti]

Yeah. Well, I choose to see this as one small step for women when one giant step for all womankind, because, hey, we're closer to the prize than we were yesterday.

[Ashton Batuso]

I have a conspiracy theory that the league intentionally physically exhausted the players to get them to say yes to a lower rev share number because they're in there at 4am every night. And it's like, at that point, you're just like, okay, I'll sign. Whatever. Man, this is torture.

[Trista Craig]

Yes. Why do we have to wait for March for this? Why couldn't we have done this deal? Oh, like, back 18 months ago? Can we get in the room and have these meetings over and over? They were just putting it off to the last minute.

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Got your happy price Price Line how

[Juju Gotti]

many free agents we got in the in the WNBA this season? Coming up over a 100.

[Trista Craig]

There will be over a hundred free agents this season and some will not. First, before we go to Dulu Corner, let me just stop everyone from going too crazy because the players you want to see move, many of them because of the way that the CBA is cannot be moved. It's called the core player designation. It's essentially like a franchise tag. So you want to see Nafisa CER out of the links, which nobody really does. She's not going anywhere. They can core designate what you mean.

[Juju Gotti]

I do. I want to see her out of the links today and in the dream jersey. I'm sorry it's not happening.

[Trista Craig]

So outside of the core players. And by the way, Brianna Stewart does not qualify for core player designation for some reason, so I didn't know that. So says Google. So? So it says Google. I don't know. Like, I'm not a CBA expert, but

[Juju Gotti]

that's in the words of Brianna Stewart.

[Trista Craig]

She's not leaving, though. She's still your. So let's break down what we want to see in terms of. You're talking about 100 free agents. Where do we want to see some of these players that are non rookies and non core players moved?

[Ashton Batuso]

Okay, how do I say this diplomatically? I actually asked Stewie this question yesterday. I talked to her.

[Trista Craig]

Oh, okay.

[Ashton Batuso]

Briefly. Hey. I was like. I was like, who would you bring to the liberty to kind of up the swag? And she was like, well, we're already pretty swaggy. And I was like, I mean, yes. But I. I have some notes, though. Like, and she suggested a rike, and I think that would be great. So we start a rumor. Oh, we start a rumor. Stewie's bringing Enrique over.

[Juju Gotti]

Yes. Big, bold letters. Yes.

[Trista Craig]

Right now, if you hear about it. Right. Like, we know Enrique and Paige, as much as they wanted it to work and I wanted it to work, it didn't feel like it maximized Enrique, and it didn't feel like it maximized Paige. So.

[Juju Gotti]

Especially if you drafted an az. Like, if you draft an az, then we got to get some of these guys up out of here.

[Trista Craig]

I think you're right about that, Juju. I think Arike probably. Probably is going to be out of there. I like that a lot. What about you, Juju? Who do you want to see? Come to the dream.

[Juju Gotti]

See, when you say the lulu, I take it as the real word. The lulu means the lulu in my dictionary. Asia Wilson, you are now in Atlanta.

[Trista Craig]

I told you it's not possible.

[Ashton Batuso]

Juju. I'm not even entertaining this.

[Trista Craig]

Who did.

[Ashton Batuso]

Who did the Sparks core? Let's find out because, like, Kelsey could be going somewhere.

[Trista Craig]

That's what I thought. Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Juju Gotti]

Oh, yes. Kelsey Kelsey Plum, you are in Atlanta Dream. I like that a lot because we need that Jordan Canada salute neighborhood Canada. But she's hurt a lot sometimes. You know what I mean? Yeah, and that'll be a great one to punch. What about you, Trista? Well, what's your delusional lulu right now? No lemons.

[Trista Craig]

Portland getting Jackie Young O.

[Ashton Batuso]

That's fun.

[Trista Craig]

I would. That's here especially think about this right now. The Aces have three players making max money. Yeah, they got Jewel, they got Jackie, they got Asia. I know that the salary cap's almost 7 million now, y', all, but are you gonna pay? Like, I think this is gonna change.

[Ashton Batuso]

You're not gonna pay Jewel that.

[Trista Craig]

Yeah, I think this is gonna change how owners pay super max money. Who they, who those players are. Because that's like, okay, you can't pay three players $1.4 million and have and feel the team. Unless you want significant look over the shoulder side eyes from the rest of the squad like,

[Juju Gotti]

salute to the Clippers,

[Trista Craig]

get a little money going on. We're gonna see that. But okay, so that means that those three are not staying together. And you can't be a six man making 1.4 mil. Like, that's just not happening, I don't think.

[Ashton Batuso]

Here's a question I have the, the expansion draft is the main thing I have my eye on. Mainly because like a, I'm from Portland, I, I, that will be very fun for me, but also, you know, okay, so the way that the expansion draft worked last year was you protect five or six players and then everyone else is fair game. But if everyone's free, like when does. When do the free agency?

[Trista Craig]

Expansion draft is before the free agency. So I'm not sure how that works.

[Ashton Batuso]

And no one explains this.

[Juju Gotti]

Before we move on, though, I'm a, I'm gonna give a real one though. A real. Instead of being like too delusional. Sabrina Unescu, you are now in Atlanta Dream. Let's move on.

[Ashton Batuso]

I would support that.

[Trista Craig]

Sabrina UNESCO, you are now a golden state Valkyrie.

[Juju Gotti]

Oh, that's too much money. That's too much money. I like that. I like that. Matter of fact, Angel Reese, you are now Atlanta Dream. It's right now. You got to know Trista, what you got for this March Madness stuff? Prepare for us.

[Trista Craig]

Well, I'll tell you as soon as we come back from break.

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Welcome back to Good. Follow. Today's episode is presented by DraftKings, where the Crown is always yours. It's now time for the Draft Kings pick of the week, presented by guess who Draft Kings. Who we got this week, man?

[Trista Craig]

We gotta go Vanderbilt and High Point. I cannot wait for this matchup. High Points, kind of a little bit of a sneaky team on both sides, men's and women's. But I've got Vandy winning. I have Aubrey Galvin, I have Michaela. Blake's on Vandy. And then in terms of High Point, you got to watch out for Macy Spencer, 18 points per game for her.

[Juju Gotti]

This segment is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours now. March Madness is here. First up, let's see who we think is going to be this year's Cinderella. It is a little glass slipper.

[Ashton Batuso]

I think Oklahoma. I don't. I don't necessarily. I'm a little bit venge. Feel, feel. I've got a little bit of hater in my heart for Oklahoma because Reagan Beers left Oregon State famously. Wait, can you see this? But I do. She's so good. And I think Oklahoma. Yeah.

[Juju Gotti]

Salute to the Beavers.

[Ashton Batuso]

Shout out to the beats, man. Always.

[Trista Craig]

For me, this year, Cinderella is Duke. I don't even know if you can consider them right, a. A Cinderella. But they've got a very hard path. They're gonna have to beat LSU in their. In their way or their journey to try and take on ucla. But this is a team. To me, that matchup is probably the most exciting on the horizon for me because first and foremost, drama, right? The drama is Flage was in Team USA this summer, wasn't getting any run, apparently declined her confidence. And Carol Lawson was like, you just weren't as good as everybody else. And then LSU saw them in the regular season, and it became this huge storyline. She's yapping to Kara. Kara's rolling their eyes. Duke got absolutely destroyed. And then Duke found their identity. They rattled off, what, 16, 17 wins in a row. They win the ACC, they win the ACC tournament, and now they've. They've found, okay, we go inside to Toby Fournier. We shoot timely threes. We play a very specific Style of very disciplined basketball. And LSU's very talented. But what we know, they are not, as Kim Mulkey would say, sometimes they play rec ball is my ball is I. So.

[Juju Gotti]

And when you play, you can't mock him, Mokey. Yes. Racist. I'm so sorry.

[Trista Craig]

So when you. When you play a very disciplined, well coached team like Duke, who's rolling, it has the potential to be very spicy. And so I'm going to take Duke in that one.

[Ashton Batuso]

I'll say it. I'm ready for all the big dogs to. And I know it's not happening because that's not how women's basketball works, but like LSU, South Carolina, UConn, like, it's enough, you know?

[Juju Gotti]

Oh, damn.

[Ashton Batuso]

Sorry. Someone has to hate them. Someone's got to be a hater. Always be the hater. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I don't hate them, but I will be a hater, to be clear. Although, shout out to Tessa Johnson on South Carolina. I didn't mean to say that earlier. Okay. Anyways.

[Juju Gotti]

No, don't try to save it now. Not she. Hope you lose.

[Trista Craig]

Tessa, are there any teams you think will meet the moment this year and surprise fans? Ashton will go with you first.

[Ashton Batuso]

I want so badly for that to be a possibility, but I just. I think we're gonna see zero upsets. I don't think anyone's gonna upset. I. I know people are saying South Dakota State, and I guess, like, I'll be along for the ride because I would die for an upset, but I don't feel it in my bones. You know what I mean?

[Juju Gotti]

I love me some Olivia Miles, man. True Hooper, baller, gamer, whatever Skip used to call LeBron not being she is that at the same time TCU will lose to UC San Diego. Take it to the bank. And this is why, because I said

[Trista Craig]

it right now, I think the one, the one upset that I could see happening is Oklahoma over South Carolina because we already saw it.

[Ashton Batuso]

Oh, don't even tempt me with that.

[Trista Craig]

Anyway, I think Oklahoma could get the upset, although I think South Carolina is peaking right now.

[Juju Gotti]

But let's move on to the most important category in the world and we're gonna. Ashton, man, who do you got winning the entire shaboozy with the cowboy boots?

[Ashton Batuso]

Yukon, Yukon, Yukon. And I'm ready for someone else. But I mean, actually, honestly, the other option is South Carolina. I would pull for Yukon anyways because South Carolina's been pissing me off. I've. Today I have turned into South Carolina's number one hater, and I didn't even know this was within me. But it's my truth. And that's who I am now.

[Trista Craig]

Gotta let it. You gotta let it come out. Actually. You gotta feel it. Whatever you feel, you gotta just say yeah.

[Ashton Batuso]

Yeah. I just. I can't stand. I can't stand a good team. I'm sorry. It's in my blood to only engage with and root for teams that just don't have the juice. And I can't stand when a program does for multiple years too.

[Juju Gotti]

You already know who I got winning the whole thing. The whole Shaboozy with the cowboy hat. I got South Carolina Salute to the game.

[Ashton Batuso]

You do not. You actually think that's true?

[Juju Gotti]

Yes, I do think that's true. Because I put the Shaboozi hat on it. Did you not see? I put this.

[Ashton Batuso]

I just. Look, I just took the shaboozy hat from you. You no longer have the shaboozy hat.

[Juju Gotti]

You're right. You're right. You hit me with my own move. Damn it. I still choose the Cox though. Because I believe in Don.

[Trista Craig]

Listen, I don't care who you believe in on this team. This Yukon team might be end up the greatest Yukon team ever. And.

[Juju Gotti]

Okay, but smart.

[Trista Craig]

Listen, listen, hold up. And I know that Maya Moore years, the Brianna Stewart years, the DT and Sue years, there's going to be a lot but it's hard to compete with like it's hard 340 versus 34. Now who. Who's the best? I don't know. A lot of this team is back from last year. They want to win it because they want to show Paige. Hey, we don't need you. I think Sarah Strong could go down as the best player in college basketball history. And she's only a sophomore. She's going to win Naismith player of the year. She's probably going to get the Wooden award as well. This is. This is a girl who's the Mini Jokic. They've got Az Fudd who's probably to me the number one pick in the draft. She's the two way player. She's on the COVID of Self by the way doing pull ups. Yeah, make sure you check that out. She looks incredible playing incredible and doesn't like that sloppy. You know what I'm saying?

[Juju Gotti]

This show has been magnificent because we had our sister join us today. Thank you sister so much for joining us. Sis, any last words before we get out of here? What do you want to promote? Who do you want to cuss out? What's a hater you want to be like, you know what, hater, I see you over there.

[Ashton Batuso]

Yeah, I have a couple things. Number one, subscribe to the Off Ball newsletter because I write it and it's fun. Number two, if you're a billionaire listening to this, I want you to be allured by the fact that you could pour in $20 million to a small team and build someone else up from scratch and we wouldn't have to only have UConn in South Carolina and LSU. Anym smart. Like, imagine what the world would look like. That could be your thing, Mr. Billionaire. This could be all yours. You would get all the credit. We would bow down to you. It would be so fun. Yeah. See, we serenade you.

[Juju Gotti]

And that's gonna do it. For this week's episode of Good Follow, make sure you subscribe to Goodfellow's YouTube page and all of his socials at Good Follow Show.

[Trista Craig]

You can catch new episodes of Good Follow every Thursday on YouTube. Wherever you get your podcast, Good Follow is presented to you by DraftKings. We'll see you next week.

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