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Good Follow - North Carolina Courage Midfielder Riley Jackson Talks NWSL Signing, Career Goals, Pressure & More
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Logan Hackett
Hey everyone. Welcome to Goodfellow, presented by DraftKings. I am Logan Hackett, and today we are Talking to the 2022 Gatorade Player of the Year, USA U17 World Cup Co Captain, U20 World Cup Bronze Medalist and current member of the U23 National Team. Plus NC Courage's very own Riley Jackson. How are you, Riley?
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Riley Jackson
I'm great. Super excited to be here. Thanks for having me on.
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Logan Hackett
So happy to have you. And you know, I'm so fascinated by all of the success that you have had at such a young age. So I want to dive straight into it. Coming out of high school, you had offers from powerhouses like North Carolina and Florida State, but then you committed to Duke. Now instead of doing all of that, you decided to go sign in the end of your cell when you were just 17 years old. So I'm so curious what went into the decision to go to the end of your cell instead of going to college?
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Riley Jackson
It was the hardest decision of my life. I always say that I was blessed to receive so many amazing opportunities. Obviously, it wasn't easy getting those opportunities, so I was super excited to. You know, I always had the plan to go play in college because at the time that's what everyone was doing. The main reason I decided to sign for North Carolina is I had trained at them a couple times in the summer and I just immediately fell in love with playing here. The second I stepped on the field, I didn't want to get off. I actually. It's kind of a full circle moment. Sean was the coach. Sean, Nathan, and Vic were all on staff at my very first national team camp when I was U15. And that was right before COVID So that camp happened, and then our cycle got cut short. So they were never on staff again at any of my national team camps. So I was already familiar with them. And obviously I was getting recruited by unc, so I knew Damon, Sean's brother, and I just love the state of North Carolina. Obviously, I was getting recruited by UNC and Duke, and I committed to Duke, so it was kind of inevitable that I was going to end up in North Carolina. But for me, my biggest goals have always been just to get better every single day. And I felt like in this environment, I was just getting pushed to my max. And for the small week that I trained here in the summers, I felt like I was a completely different player when I left and went back to my home environment. And the main thing for me, the timing of my signing, I was actually going to visit my Duke coaches while I was training here. And before I went to go visit my Duke coaches one day, Sean called me into the office and was like, hey, like, we want to talk to you. Just bring your dad. And so I was like, okay. Like, this is kind of. Kind of weird timing. And so I went in there and talked to him, and he basically presented this whole idea of signing me, and I was just blown away. I was like, oh, my gosh. I didn't even think this was a possibility for me. And, sorry, I need to backtrack because this story has so many layers, but.
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Logan Hackett
I know, I love it.
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Riley Jackson
The reason I even had the meeting with Sean is I was supposed to be training with courage the whole week. And I had had a stress fracture earlier in the year in, like, about February, and I was training with them in July, and I had healed and was recovered and playing, but I was still in a little bit of pain. And I was like, I can't keep playing on this. So I needed to go home and go see the doctors again. And so the reason I was going to visit my Duke coaches and see Sean on that day was because I was actually ending up going home rather than staying the whole week. And so he was like, before you go home, before you go see your Duke coaches, like, come in and talk to us. And so I was like, okay. And he presented this. And I was like, whoa, like, I'm injured. Like, I, you know, I have so much going on. Like, this is really crazy. I have to finish high school. And he basically was like, no, like, we want to invest in you. And that made me feel, like, really cared about, because I was like, I. I can't even play right now. Like, I. I need to get surgery, you know, all this stuff. And so I just felt like the club really cared about me, and I felt like the girls really cared about me, felt like I fit right in with them. And that was a big thing for me. I was so much younger than all the girls, so training here, I was, like, so nervous and shy. And just the way that they welcomed me into the environment was amazing. And I was just like, obviously, Duke. Amazing people. I still have friends there that play there. Robbie, it was such an amazing coach. Sad he retired, but I'm still awesome. Like, their success last season was amazing. So that opportunity is also great. So I was like, oh, what do I do? What I do? But my dream from day one was always to play pro. I was like, I can't pass up this opportunity. And one more layer of story. Sorry, I'm, like, rambling. There's so much. At the time, I was 17 and the draft was still a thing. So once I turned 18, no matter what, even if I went to college for a year, I was going to have to go into the draft. And so the choice that I had to sign for North Carolina was a big thing for me because I didn't want to get drafted to another club where I maybe wasn't going to like the coaches as much or fit into the style of play. And I didn't know if they really cared about me the way that I felt cared for at North Carolina. So just all those factors made it seem like a good decision for me. And now I'm super happy that I made that decision, obviously, and took a lot of faith and praying. So very happy with where I'm at.
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Logan Hackett
I absolutely love that. And I mean, you hear about everyone investing or certain people investing in others in women's sports, but just the fact that NC Courage came to you so early and they even presented you with a position or opportunity to possibly be able to choose another club, as you mentioned, if you could go to the draft, but you decide to stick with them, that's saying a lot. But you also mentioned that you were 17 when you signed with them. And in 2021, Olivia Moultrie sued the league, which allowed the under 18 mechanism. So for those who are listening, who don't know, what does this entail and how was your experience different to one who gets drafted?
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Riley Jackson
So basically, when the draft was a thing, once I turned 18, I would have to put my name in and then whoever could potentially draft me. I mean, and once you get drafted, you still have to earn a contract, which is also, like, so, so scary because you put in all the work and you're like, yeah, I got drafted. Then you're like, oh, my gosh, now I have to work even harder to get the contract, which is great and so rewarding once you do, but it's also, like, there's a little bit of uncertainty. So for me, passing up the opportunity to have a college scholarship was a big deal because I was like, I need to make sure that, like, I am getting the opportunity that's, like, equal or even better than what I was getting before because, like, the landscape still needs to grow to where we're, like, making more money and all of that, and, like, you know, equal pay and everything is, like. So it's like, you know, tough. So I needed to make sure that, like, the money that I was making, the opportunity that I was getting, like, getting better as a player, was going to propel me to places that was, like, better than what I was getting in college, because that was such a great opportunity.
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Logan Hackett
So, oh, my gosh, I love that. And I want to fast forward to once you got in the league and started playing. I mean, I'm sure you grew up, or I pretty much know that you grew up watching all of these legendary players like Alex Morgan, Kelly o', Hara, Becky Sauerbrun. What was it like to be in a league playing against those players still as a teenager?
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Riley Jackson
Oh, my gosh. Insane. Remember, I had, like, obviously, I've had so many moments where I'm just like, well, like, this is so sick and crazy. There's one moment I remember in particular. I. Last season, I subbed in against Gotham, and I was marking Rose Lebel, and I was like, has been my idols for however long I can remember.
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Logan Hackett
And.
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Riley Jackson
And there's actually a photo from that game of me with the ball between Rosabelle and Crystal Dunn. And when I saw that photo, I was like, oh, my God, you're kidding me. Like, this is insane. And just, like, shaking their hands after the game, it's like, this is. This is awesome. But I've had so many moments where I'm just starstruck. Like, playing against Martha, like, a month ago, I'm like, wow, crazy. So I'm super grateful just for the opportunity to learn from these players. Play against these players. Obviously, it's tough because they're so good, but it's just, like, so many great opportunities for me to get better.
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Logan Hackett
Have you had any cool jersey swaps so far?
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Riley Jackson
No, I haven't yet. They're kind of a stickler with who, like, giving away our jerseys because we only have two, so.
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Logan Hackett
Oh, really? I had no clue. I literally thought they were just, like, coming out, like, as much as you want.
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Riley Jackson
I wish.
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Logan Hackett
So I think back to when I was 19. I mean, I was a college athlete, but while you're a college athlete, you're still able to have fun and kind of be 19 while also playing your sport and excelling and doing all the athletic stuff. But you do this on such a different level. So how do you juggle growing up and kind of maintaining your age while still being a pro?
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Riley Jackson
That's a really good question. I feel like going into it, that was the thing I was most scared about, was just, like, not having that social aspect of being in college. But at the same time, like, Sean actually let me finish high school, and I, like, got to go back for graduation and do all that. So I felt like I was at a point in my life where if I had gone to college, like, it probably would have only been for, like, a semester, and then I would have gone to pro. So I'm like, why not do it now? But on the other hand, my teammates are my best friends. Like, obviously, when I signed, I was 17, I was this little shy girl. But the amount that has changed in the past two years is unreal. Like, I am super close with everyone. I feel like they're all my older sisters. I'm the oldest in my family, so it's super nice for me to have so many older sisters because I've always been in that role. It's also nice because I'm close to Duke and unc, so if I ever want to go see my friends there, I'm able to do that. And I also, like, have a really great community outside of soccer here, like, my church and a lot of people my age and that. So it's really awesome. I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything just because I'm super happy and content with where I'm at. I'm trusting that this is where I'm meant to be.
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Logan Hackett
And with some of your teammates being, I mean, 10 to 11 years older than you, is there anyone you go to for specific, specific advice?
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Riley Jackson
Danny Weatherholt's my locker buddy, and so we're Always chatting. I feel like she is, like, super easy to talk to. And it's like, we get along really well and we have a good connection. And then I love Mayor Meredith Spank. She's just like the team mom, honestly. And I just love her so much. I call her Mara Mare because she's just so cute. But no, I love everyone. I think it's a kind of known that the Courage has such an amazing culture. Like, our locker room is unmatched. So super grateful for everyone.
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Logan Hackett
Yeah. That is so incredibly important. And now I want to talk about a landmark game in your career. Last July, we had the Summer Cup. You were playing against Racing Louisville, and you came in to score your first NWSL goal, which just so happened to be a stoppage time equalizer. And then when the game went to PK is that you scored the opening kick to get the win. So how do you stay calm in these situations while also being under pressure to pretty much get the W. Yeah.
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Riley Jackson
At halftime of that game. So last season was definitely a journey for me, just trying to, like, break into the lineup. I mean, I got good minutes here and there, but the Summer cup was really an opportunity for me to play and showcase my ability and my growth throughout the year. So at halftime, Nathan, our assistant coach, came up to me and was like, right, like, go out there and prove yourself. Like, you got this. And so I was like, all right. You know, I do got this. And I in warm up, like, I was really feeling myself with, like, my finishing. And so when I received the ball in that moment, Monaka was my roommate last year, so we were really close. And she was like, bro, you got this. Come on. And so I received the ball on the top of the box, and I hear Monaka, go, shoot it. Shoot it. And so I was like, all right, I'm gonna rip it. And so when I scored, I was just, like, actually so excited. I think Monaka tried to jump into my arms, and I like, off of me, because I was just like, oh, my gosh, this is awesome. And my grandparents were there, which is super exciting in terms of the PK. I've missed plenty of PKs in my life, and I think I, like, don't have a fear of missing them, because I know, like, it shows my character as a player to step up in those moments. And I also think, like, missing them helps me be better under pressure because then I know what I need to do differently. I can learn from those moments. And so that's been a learning curve for me because I'm super hard on myself and, like, hate making mistakes. And I'm very much a perfectionist. But, like, I think just, like, having the willingness to step on, step up in those moments, like, I know 95% of the time it's gonna go how I've planned it. And visual visualization has really helped me in those moments, too. Like, under pressure, I'm like, okay, you've done this a thousand times in training. You can do it here. And so in that moment, I think I had actually missed my PK the week before against Orlando, and Nathan was like, we're putting you right back in, like, the PK lineup. And I was like, thank you. Like, that's what I want. Like, the faith and the trust in me is something that goes beyond PKs and stuff in this environment. It's just, like, the belief that we have in each other and the staff has in us is, like, really great. And so I think just, like, having that support behind me also really helped in the moment. And, yeah, I mean, I. I have the mentality that's like, I'm never going to miss two in a row. Like, if I miss one, I'm going to score the next one. And I think that's good. With, like, anything in my career is, like, learning from mistakes is really important, especially being young. Like, I don't use being young as an excuse for anything. Like, I don't think that's valid. I think everyone should be on the same playing field, no matter their age. But I think it is important to give myself some grace and learning and growing as a player. So.
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Logan Hackett
Absolutely. Oh, my goodness. I feel like the next generation could definitely learn so much from you. I mean, just hearing you speak right now, I'm retaining everything, and I'm not even a soccer player. But I have to say, I love, love, love how you go about everything and your mindset. And I've noticed that you have some writing on your wrist tape during games, but I have not been able to decipher it. What does it say?
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Riley Jackson
Okay, so it says RTF with a little heart. It's something I started doing in high school with my high school team, because my dad was my high school coach, and we won the state championship my freshman year. So I just have, like, a special association to that time. But it means remember the feeling, and I write it every game, and I think it serves as a reminder because I think it's so easy to get caught up in, like, the pressure of a game and, like, what's going on, what's not going your way. And so I think it's super easy just to remember or look down at your wrists and have that little reminder of the joy and why you play and remember why you started in the first place. So I think that's something that just really helps center and ground me. And then I recently started adding three Fs to my wrist tape because my dad. My dad's super awesome and super cheesy. He's an English teacher, so he loves all sorts of quotes and stuff like that. But he's been telling me, fun, focus, freedom. Because I think, like I mentioned, especially stepping into a new, newer role this year on the team, playing more minutes, I think it's hard to get focused on, to get the tunnel vision of, like, what isn't going your way, I guess. And so just like, remembering the joy and the fun in the game is the most important thing. And that's, like, the advice that I give to, like, younger players when they talk to me and they're like, oh, what do I need to do? I'm like, have fun. Because that's when you're playing your best. And that's what I've noticed about myself, is when I'm playing with freedom and fun, that's one of my best. So this is like, a little reminder of just, like, take a deep breath. You're here to have fun.
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Logan Hackett
I love that. I feel like that having fun is so misinterpreted because even when I was playing, I mean, everyone was like, go out and have fun. I'm like, I can't have fun. I have to be focused. And as you said, I'm also a perfectionist. So it's so hard when things don't go my way. And I feel like I'm still kind of learning how to deal with that. But it is true. Having fun, you let loose and you're not really thinking about anything. That is the best recipe to have a good game. But when I was looking into some of your background, between NWSL and national team, you are being referred to as the future of U.S. soccer. So how do you handle all of the pressure while still being able to perform?
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Riley Jackson
That's a good question, too. I think it's really helpful to talk to your teammates and just, like, have that belief in yourself. Like, I have Learned to have 100 confidence in what I'm capable of. And I also think, like, my faith has helped a lot in that and the pressure, because I know that things aren't necessarily always in my control.
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Logan Hackett
But my last question, when it comes to your careers. You have accomplished so much already. What are your goals going forward?
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Riley Jackson
Oh my gosh, I have so many goals for myself. I think it's really important to set little goals inside of big goals. But I obviously everyone's dream is to play for the national team, the full national team. And so that's really like what I want next. Like, I would love to play in the 27 World cup, but you know, like, little goals inside of that I think are important. Like making my first camp, you know, like scoring a goal at home here. Like little things that, like, I can do to help me get there, I think are important. But yeah, I want to play for the national team, but I don't just want to, like, play once. Like, I want to be a staple player and I want to have an impact in that environment and like be an inspiration for younger players the way that those players were an inspiration for me. Like, I just recently I met Lindsay Horan at the airport. We were in San Diego and I was like, because I'm close to Jaden on my team, I was like, jj, introduce me to her. And I was like having such a fan girl moment. But like, that's what I want to be one day for younger girls just have that inspiration factor. I also would love to play in Europe at some point. I'm super happy with where I'm at right now, with the courage, but would eventually, hopefully have a long career ahead. So I'd love to experience different things in soccer and life. So.
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Riley Jackson
So bad at this game. I'm like not on TikTok or anything so I feel like I'm really bad with trends too, so.
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Logan Hackett
Oh really? Is that by choice?
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Riley Jackson
Yeah, well I gave it up for Lent a couple years ago and I haven't gotten it back and I'm like good because I'm actually, you know, going to bed at a decent time now.
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Logan Hackett
So that was actually a conversation we were just having. I I can't delete TikTok because it's my job, but I'm trying to scroll a lot less because I feel like my brain is just withering away here. But the first topic is actually huge on TikTok right now. Do you know what a Labubu is.
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Riley Jackson
No.
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Logan Hackett
It'S like these little. Oh gosh. It's like a troll looking doll.
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Riley Jackson
Okay.
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Logan Hackett
And I'll. I'll find a picture on my phone. And people are attaching them to their purses. But they're kind of scary.
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Riley Jackson
I feel like I've maybe seen it, but I believe maybe one of my friends has one.
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Logan Hackett
Probably. I would not doubt that. They look like this.
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Riley Jackson
Yes, I've seen that. Yeah.
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Logan Hackett
Do you think they're in or out?
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Riley Jackson
Personally, I wouldn't have one, so I guess out.
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Logan Hackett
I agree. They're too scary for me. The next one is wearing pimple patches in public.
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Riley Jackson
I guess in because I don't judge. But I wouldn't do it.
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Logan Hackett
I agree.
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Riley Jackson
It's more of a nighttime thing for me.
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Logan Hackett
Yep. And then next is skinny jeans out. Agree. What about barrel jeans out?
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Riley Jackson
So they would look so stupid on me.
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Logan Hackett
And then high waisted bottoms or low waisted? Because low waisted are in right now. But some people prefer high.
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Riley Jackson
I like low waisted for sure.
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Logan Hackett
And what about slick backs?
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Riley Jackson
I do like a good slick back. It's hard in the summer here because we get so sweaty. So I like wash my hair a lot. But you know, sometimes you got to do what you got to do and go with the slick back.
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Logan Hackett
Okay, this one is very specific. Going to college. Is it in or out?
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Riley Jackson
I feel like that's so hard. It depends on ants. I'll say. Oh, since I didn't go.
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Logan Hackett
Oh, I love that. And actually, quick question. If you went to college, what would you have studied?
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Riley Jackson
I really wanted to do journalism. I love writing. Kind of a nerd when it comes to stuff like that. So I'm actually doing online college right now. Doing two classes at a time, super slow. But you know, I just wanted to do something to take my mind off the soccer sometimes because it can be all consuming. So I love that.
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Logan Hackett
Is your degree in journalism?
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Riley Jackson
It's in marketing right now, but I'm hoping to get some opportunities in journalism soon, so.
- [23:50]
Logan Hackett
Wow, you truly do it all. Oh my gosh. Okay, what about summer Fridays? The lip balm In.
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Riley Jackson
I love that stuff. Okay, one's my favorite.
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Logan Hackett
Which one?
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Riley Jackson
Sorry, I don't know if you tried that one.
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Logan Hackett
Oh, yes. Love mint. Love, love, love. I have vanilla. Vanilla is my go to right now. What about chatgpt/AI?
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Riley Jackson
Okay, I'm going to expose myself. I was like so out with this until I started doing online college. And my friends are like, riley, it'll change your life. So I'm going to Say in. In moderation.
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Logan Hackett
Once you start entering like the right prompts, it's very much in like, it's like writing.
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Riley Jackson
So I don't want it to like kill writing. You know what I mean? But like, busy work in. Absolutely.
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Logan Hackett
What about. I mean, you don't have Tick tock, but Twitter or X?
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Riley Jackson
I also don't have time, so.
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Logan Hackett
Going out on that one?
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Riley Jackson
Yeah.
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Logan Hackett
Actually, this is interesting because with you not having social media, I'm not too sure if you are not social media, but those ones, I'm not too sure if you would be keeping up with the reality TV drama. Do you watch reality tv?
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Riley Jackson
I do watch it with my mom. Like, she'll have it on and I'll get sucked into it and we watch it. I've been trying, like, everyone's watching Love island right now.
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Logan Hackett
Yes.
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Riley Jackson
But I haven't had time because I'm into like four week summer courses. So I'm just like, crammed with work. But I'm really sad about it because I love hearing everything and I wish I could keep up with it.
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Logan Hackett
But that was gonna be my next question.
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Riley Jackson
I'm pretty sure the rumor is one of the people on it lives in my apartment building. So. Yeah.
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Logan Hackett
Oh, interesting. Oh, okay. Yeah, for sure. Maybe ask them some questions. I mean, I don't know. And one of the last ones. How do you do your hand?
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Riley Jackson
Heart?
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Logan Hackett
I'm really curious here. Okay. Yes, I do the same. But there's the people who do, like.
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Riley Jackson
Figure that out. With my fingers. I don't know.
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Logan Hackett
No, I feel like it hurts. Like, that's not right. Yeah, you said you don't judge, but what about judging people based off their zodiac signs?
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Riley Jackson
Definitely not. I don't really know much about that. Like, some of my teammates are really into it and so, like, they're always saying stuff about zodiac signs and I'm like, yeah, yeah, totally.
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Logan Hackett
Like, I feel like you're a clean girl. Clean girl aesthetic. In or out?
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Riley Jackson
In, for sure.
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Logan Hackett
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Love that. And then last question. Actually, second last question. What are your Gen Z hobbies outside of soccer?
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Riley Jackson
I don't know what is like, considered a Gen Z hobby, I guess, but I do a lot of yoga. Hot yoga. I guess that counts. I love it. The studio is like a couple steps from my apartment. I like reading a lot. Summertime, like, cool beach. I love the beach. And being on this team has gotten me into drinking coffee. So I recently bought like the Breville Nice espresso machine. So I'm like, trying to figure out how to be my own little barista at home.
- [26:50]
Logan Hackett
So that Breville machine is so hard to use. I have one. My mom and I were like, oh, my gosh, this is going to be life changing. We're going to have people over just making everything. We cannot figure it out at all.
- [27:00]
Riley Jackson
I've wasted so many beans. It's really. Yep.
- [27:03]
Logan Hackett
And lastly, before you go, what are your top five emojis right now?
- [27:08]
Riley Jackson
Oh, my gosh. Am I allowed to pull out my phone to look at this? Yeah, I honestly have no idea. I use quite a few emojis. So let's see.
- [27:15]
Logan Hackett
There's a huge range. Now.
- [27:19]
Riley Jackson
Let'S see. Honestly, probably lots of parts. Okay, so like the red heart, the little, like smiley face where it has like the blush cheeks. The heart with the fire emoji and then like kissy lips like that. And then the one with the one eyebrow up.
- [27:38]
Logan Hackett
Yes.
- [27:38]
Riley Jackson
And the straight line.
- [27:40]
Logan Hackett
I completely. Those are so good to like, convey all of your emotions too.
- [27:44]
Riley Jackson
Oh, and this one where the girls like this, I use that one a lot. Like period classic. So yeah, that's funny. But they change a lot. So.
- [27:54]
Logan Hackett
Yes, all the time is literally just look at my mom. We were talking about them and I have stickers in there and all these ones. I'm like, I don't know where those came from. But anyways, thank you so much, Riley, for joining us. I really, really enjoyed just hearing what you had to say and going through your journey and y'. All. That is it for this week's episode of Goodfellow. Make sure to describe to subscribe to our YouTube channel and all of our socials at Goodfellow show. Goodfellow is presented by DraftKings. See you next week.