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Logan Hackett
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Roz Golden Wood
Hey, what's up, everyone? I'm in a great mood. Welcome to Goodfellow show presented by DraftKings. It's me, your girl, Roz. Golden wedded. And who are you, young lady?
Logan Hackett
I am Logan Hackett. But first, Roz, when you're doing your little dancy dance, I have to say your nails look phenomenal.
Roz Golden Wood
Oh. Oh. Per period.
Logan Hackett
Thank you so much for noticing. Oh, my gosh.
Roz Golden Wood
I'm in a new era in my life. I am in my nail girly journey era. I was such a boring girl who just played ball and like never did my nails. And now I'm like doing designs and all the things and now I talk like this and I'm giving fiesta right now. Okay, this is fine fiesta to me. And the reason why it's a fiesta and it's a party is because we're so excited to have a guest joining us on the show today. Friend to the show, Meadowlark family. You know him from all the shows on Dan LeBatard and Ali Oop. Our guy, Juju.
Juju
Hey, don't I be a good follow serving everybody? What's up, y' all? Happy to be back. Thank y' all for having me back, man. It's such a fun place to be. Where in the world else else would I rather be? Nowhere.
Roz Golden Wood
Oh, maybe, maybe no place I'd rather be. Hey.
Logan Hackett
Do you guys not know that one? Is that a. I was with that.
Roz Golden Wood
I'm here to support. I'm here to support my song.
Juju
My song collection is more of the ghetto dialect, so I don't think that's.
Roz Golden Wood
We're a show of lots of diversity of palates of taste here at good follow. Speaking of pallets of taste, I got a menu for you. This is an all star WNBA all star voting show. The first returns are in. We're gonna have some observations of that. And then for fun guys around sometime, by the time you watch this in like A day or so, voting is over. So, juju, Logan, and myself, we're gonna build our All Star ballots. I just want to tap my own shoulder. Maybe this one, because your girl represents Good Follow. Good Follow has a media vote. Well, not Goodfellow. I have a media vote, but I represent for Good Follow in the All Star game, so I am very. I take it as a great honor. And we'll discuss.
Logan Hackett
Logan, you need a crown for that one huge honor. But, y' all, just a reminder, everyone, the crown can be yours when you tune into our new episodes that now drop twice a week. One on Tuesday, one on Thursday. You can watch on YouTube or wherever else you get your podcast. But, y' all, are you ready to get into it? We are having some good vibes today.
Roz Golden Wood
Oh, and I. You are being such a good sport. Like anything we throw at you, she's like, yes. And the crown can be yours. Segway. Segway. Segway. You're doing great, sweetie. Go on, Logan. Thank you.
Logan Hackett
Well, you know who else is doing great is all the people doing the All Star voting, because I'm pretty sure there's record numbers. I've seen it all over my social, and it's only open for a few more days now, if you don't know. Fan votes account for 50% of the vote, whereas current players and media panel roz account for 25% each. So last Friday, the first returns for fan voting came out, and there's been a lot of discourse about the results. But, y' all, what do you think about the current top 10 standings based on the fan votes?
Juju
I mean, look, salute to my sister, Caitlin Clark. But you could tell the Caitlin Clark effect is echoing throughout the Fever. I'm looking at.
Roz Golden Wood
At.
Juju
I'm looking at a first name and a last name right now that I would have never thought would be up there. First. First name start with an L. Last name in with a hoe. Because salute to my sister. But goodness gracious, respect. She tough. Tough as nails. Chase leches. But at the same time, wow.
Roz Golden Wood
Yeah. You almost gotta shout out the Fever fan base, you know, because at least they're super active and engaged. Four players in the top 10. But for me, what stands out, what we don't have shown on the graphic, is the numbers of voting participation increasing, honestly, since the last season. And. And a rising tide lifts all ships. I mean, it's around Caitlin Clark. So the Caitlin Clark effect is real and the league is still growing. So before the 2023 season, the top vote getter was Asia Wilson with guess how many votes? Like just give me a ballpark range guess. Tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands?
Juju
4,000.
Logan Hackett
Oh, I was going to say 40,000.
Roz Golden Wood
That's ridiculous that he has no face. If this was prices, right, Logan, you would have. You would have went over but $1 2023. In 2023, the top vote getter was Asia Wilson with 35,968 votes. The next year, Caitlin Clark comes in. The top vote getter is Caitlin Clark with 216. 216,427 votes. And excuse me, I might be saying this wrong. It's actually after the first round of like votes come in that early first round. So y' all understand the point I'm trying to make. We went from 40,000 or 36,000 to 200,000 when Caitlin Clark came in. Maybe what's more, what's more important to me is that now this season in 2025, the first round of returns has Caitlin at way higher than 200 something. She's at 515,000, which shows so much growth. We're talking about half a million votes came in for Caitlin Clark. Also equally impressively is Nafisa Collier at almost 500,000 votes. 484. So, like, this is. It's to say, like, yeah, yeah, it is a lot of Caitlin Clark driving this stuff, but it's growing and it's taken everyone. There's a lot of interest and it's taking everyone with them.
Logan Hackett
I want to know the final number on how many. I wonder if we're going to crack a million this year.
Roz Golden Wood
Well, another thing that I was thought was interesting was where Angel Reese was in that voting because Angel Reese was number 13 and she had pulled in and far this first round of early votes coming in 173,367 votes. Which I think is interesting because, like, it don't make sense. The math. A math. And Angel Reese is the most followed player on social media. Like she's got 5 million followers on Instagram. And then after that it's not even close. Like the next one is Caitlin Clark who's at like 3.5. And then after that it's like, I think it's. I think it's Sabrina like one something but it's not even close. So are her. Where's her fan base? Like, I mean I'm not. Let me not get beat up here. But more importantly, like there's 12 players in front of her. So are her fan. Is that fan base not as active and Engaged in the moment where it matters most.
Logan Hackett
She got a posted Instagram story with the link, say, hey guys. Right, Photography, just in case you didn't see it.
Juju
Right. She can't be too cool. You can't be too cool promoting this and that. And don't forget to promote yourself. That's what I be doing. I promote everybody's stuff except myself. And I feel like my sister falling victim to that because of course everybody gonna go where she point, but sometimes, you know, she want to point at the podcast a little more than the actual all star voting. So salute to her.
Roz Golden Wood
Maybe she doesn't want to shill like, you know what I mean? But I did just. That's just something I found interesting. I was like looking through it and I was like, wait a second. And so that's a correlation I made. I'm not really sure why that's happening, but very interesting.
Juju
We always say jump. They gonna jump. My bad, sis.
Roz Golden Wood
Right.
Logan Hackett
Well, with just a few days of voting left, it is now time for us to make our own votes. Now Roz actually gets a very special media vote. But just like everyone else, we have picked for backcourt and six front court players. We've also picked who we think the two captains should be and then we're going to reveal all of the picks to each other. Sound good?
Roz Golden Wood
Yes.
Logan Hackett
Okay, let's start with guards. Juju, who do you have in your back court?
Juju
All righty, Here goes nothing. I got Paige Beckers number one. I got Sabrina Yanescu number two. I got Ryan the Howard number three. And big Alicia Gray number four. Don't beat me up.
Roz Golden Wood
I just knew your ballot was going to be heavy, biased and skewing towards the Atlanta dream. You see his jersey? You see his jersey?
Juju
This is, this is, this is actual factuals. This is notes, sentencing of bias. This is my actual allegiances to the, the, the. Just the sanctity of the game here.
Roz Golden Wood
Okay. Okay. Because you know, I could be. I could be accused of Liberty affiliations or affinity for Liberty players because my backcourt is similar to yours in three spots. So I have. I. Or wait, do I have that? Yes, I have. Oh, wait, no, it's not. I'm tripping. Wow. Okay, I just realized you don't even have Caitlin Clark out there.
Juju
Oh, you gonna say it out loud? Oh my goodness.
Roz Golden Wood
Wait, am I tripping? Wait, so your 4 back court votes doesn't even have Caitlin Clark on it? Is it because she got injured and missed a couple reasoning?
Logan Hackett
Did you forget about her?
Juju
No, I did not forget about her my sister played seven games and she missed five games. Like this is not a very long season.
Roz Golden Wood
Paige is on there by the way hot right now. Thank you Logan because you have Paige Beckers there who also missed a chunk of the season with of this beginning part of the season with a concussion and was feeling sick.
Juju
Yeah, but what her team is in.
Roz Golden Wood
11Th place in the league and you got Caitlyn who's it it being leaned on for so much that the fever need to do and yes, and it got beat has the fan vote.
Juju
Yes, she has the fan vote. That's what I'm saying. I'm not influenced by the fan vote. The fan vote is the fan vote but this is my actual vote. When Paige got back, guess what. The wings look better when she got back. She got a home they first home w in front of Gino Ariema. When she came back she making every single game competitive. When she came back, when Caitlin came back, of course she did a wonderful job against your libert but she got spanked against them Valkyrie. She got like they they not necessarily doing what I the folks think she doing. Like she got and she went like one for her last 17, 19 threes. I'm not saying she isn't deserving to be on the all star team. I'm saying the starters your best ability is your availability and pace. Come out and show how she's so accurate. Her efficiency is just at a little higher clip in my opinion.
Roz Golden Wood
Okay, first of all we pushed you into a corner and you swung right back at us. Juju you had so you had, you had your arguments. This is very much good. Let, let let it be known at good follow this is a safe space for opinions.
Juju
Okay.
Roz Golden Wood
All right. So that's, that's your starting group for for back court. Can you show Roz Golden Wood's starting group? I had some different choices there. So for me the things that seemed pretty clear for me was Caitlin Clark, Alicia Gray, Sabrinas Q Ryan Howard is one of those like immediate reserve pickups. Like you know she'll be all star reserve. I didn't think the dream needed two players there in my opinion. But where I had my conflict was is it Skyler Diggins or Paige Beckers who gets that, that, that that fourth vote for me for the guard position and for me Sky's on a better team. She's averaging 18 points, six assists, two rebounds, one and a half steals, three turnovers and is shooting about 44% from three in the field on a better team. But for me it's really impressive to me that as a rookie I didn't even realize Paige was averaging 18 points per game. She's top 10 assists, she's averaging six assists. She really doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Especially again given how much the ball is in her hand and how much you know, she's a rookie and her team isn't that good defensively. Paige is. I already said this. Paige was. Paige in college was disruptive as a defender. Her length, she gets steal, she gets blocks. She's averaging a block a game. Two steals only turns it over two and a half times. And again to your point, her efficiency. However, can I hold it against her that her team is just so bad? I don't think that's against Paige. I actually think it's more impressive that she's continuing to be this good despite what the Dallas Wings are doing. So that was my hard part. I actually have a few days until I have to get my my vote and at the time of taping this show. So can I get away with just saying Clark, Gray, Unescu and then either Smith, Beckers and I'll. I'll figure that on my own time.
Juju
Absolutely not make a choice right now. Shame the devil.
Roz Golden Wood
It's not like the Storm are sitting at two or three either. You know they hanging around in the middle five. I'm gonna give it to Paige. I love you.
Juju
I love you too. Sky and the Storm like you say Storm, the Storm are better than they their. Their numbers say right now. They just got a big win. Now Sabrina was out the other night but they got a big win against the Liberty and they really, they show up brother Gabby Williams, I hope she make the team this year because they got some stars over there.
Roz Golden Wood
I absolutely. I was on the call for that game and I made the similar case that Skylar Diggins did for NECA in that like NECA is. NECA changed the game for them. She's so efficient. Sky makes so much happen for that team and they're lacking in depth but they are very talented veteran and this year building in the continuity now you got them players playing with each other for two years. I actually think that they have a lot more potential to hit in the Storm. I'm really excited for them and I expect to see both sky and NECA represent as all stars in the All Star game. Now whether they're starters are not as different but they're certainly all star players. Like, like there's nothing to really discuss.
Logan Hackett
About that right Y' all, I'm so sorry we have to wrap this block up but I want to show mine very quickly. It's pretty much a mix of like both of yalls I but I more so went for popularity and play on the court but yeah I I really didn't expect anyone else. Love yeah okay I love how she plays especially I shouted out for this once but I'll say it again, my short queen which she's not actually super. Also shout out to Brittany Sykes because I wasn't sure if anyone was going to put her on but she she really has some competition to make this list. Coming up, we reveal our front court votes. We'll be right back.
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Logan Hackett
Welcome back to good Follow. Today's episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours. It is now time to reveal the rest of our team and I want to see who we all went with in the front court. So Roz, you're up. I want to hear it.
Roz Golden Wood
All right. All right. And Juju staying with us. Thank you, Juju, for being on the show. My six front court votes are Nafisa Collier, Asia Wilson, Brianna Stewart, Alyssa Thomas, Neca Ogwumike and Jonquil Jones. The only one that I think in my opinion is controversial here might be Jonquil Jones only because I think the injury may have hurt her and that she's missed a couple of games here. But given that voting is ending like the June 28th, when I think of the body of work of what Jonquil Jones has done, I think that's worthy of my her position in my front court ballot. You may be saying, oh, but she only averages, I think something like 14 points per game or whatever she was before she got hurt. She was one of two players averaging a double. Double was her and Angel Reese. And it's one of those things like you got to watch the games. If you're watching the Liberty, you understand just how important John Quell Jones is to the Liberty's success. So those are my six and I'm standing ten toes down on it.
Juju
What's up? You know, what's that smell? Is anybody cooking in here? You know, I smell a little home cooking as well. Yeah. Cues me up with a dream. Yes, John Quill is amazing. And now, yes, you conveniently have six people in your front court as well. I don't like it at all. Make a choice. She is out of here if you got to ask me. And I love Jonquil. I know how important she is, but that's not what we doing. We gotta get her up out of here. Salute.
Roz Golden Wood
But you like the other ones. You feel like, you know, Alyssa Thomas is another front court vote where I feel like you gotta, you really gotta be watching the games and understanding all that she does and that, you know, she's leading the league in assists which she's done before. And for the Mercury she just makes so much happening. Like she just fills that statute. So yeah, I mean where are you at with yours, Juju?
Juju
Look, I had a. My. My biggest problem was it's so many good guards in the league. I was like let's put slam from Britney Sykes. Let's put her at four because she can play it if she wanted to. But yeah, I got Satu, Kiki, Brianna Stewart. I got. Of course you got to know Queen Fee, Asia Wilson and the same thing you said Bruh. Alyssa Thomas. @ is just a little too important for the. The Mercury's eventual success because she missed some games, she had an injury. But bro, they. I think what they on like a 5, 6 game winning street right now. She got everybody out there looking crazy. She passed the Hitman, Sammy Sam, Sammy Wilkin tray ball. She passed over here. Hell, the tray ball like bro Makoa Treall. So it's like bro, she's the ultimate facilitator. She makes SATU even better. I think that she has to be on this list but yeah, everyone else deserves it as well.
Roz Golden Wood
That's interesting because SATU absolutely is deserving of a front court starter position too. I just wondered do the Mercury get to there? It's. I felt that I had to make a choice and I felt that ultimately I went at. But SATU absolutely has has a discussion around MVP even to be in the convers. The way she been scoring the ball for the Mercury and she's a little bit. Got a. Got a chip on her shoulder. I said this in another show once. Like I spoke with her. She said she heard all the chatter last season. You know the disrespect was loud and now she's got a fresh slate. She's healthy and she's just letting her game do the talking.
Juju
Right.
Roz Golden Wood
I have Kiki. I have Kiki as an. As a reserve all star she's been fantastic. But she was very close to making a starter voice a starter vote for me. But I ultimately still said John Quell just because of how strong the Liberty had started. They're having a bit of an injury bug and losing right now, but so. So will we. Are we all in agreeance that basically Fee, Asia and Stewie are the givens?
Juju
Yeah. 100, 100. And I had, I had Kiki because. Because whenever Shakira and they was injured this Year Kiki stepped up in the road at. I didn't even expect her to step up in. So I feel like we may as well let her step up in this role, start starter.
Roz Golden Wood
I mean, she was rookie of the month, right? And I'm surprised you didn't bring up, you know, your Atlanta dream. Like, Bree Jones is a reserve candidate. Angel Reese is a reserve candidate as well. Aaliyah Boston is leading, you know, one of the leading front court players in the fan vote, but she also has a reserve case, so there's. There's a lot of talent here. Logan, what was you saying?
Logan Hackett
I was gonna say, oh, first of all, I have been loving watching SATU play recently. Like, I don't know. Well, you said it with the comment she has something to her, but I even feel like she's starting to get big outside of, like, the inner circle of the W, because I was at the Chicago and Phoenix game the other day and somebody texted me, unicorn is bawling. Mind you, this isn't like, this person can't even name the whole Fever team at this point. So I'm like, how the. Like, who?
Juju
What?
Roz Golden Wood
One more.
Logan Hackett
Why? How. How do you even know that she's called Unicorn? That is crazy. But I think my team is actually a mix of both of y' alls. If I'm not mistaken, it might look a bit more like Juju's. Oh, it is Juju's. We have the exact. Oh, wait, except for jj.
Juju
Oh, except for Kayla. Yeah.
Roz Golden Wood
Okay. So why did you keep Jonquil Jones in yours despite the injury?
Logan Hackett
Honestly, I didn't fully think of the injury and her possibly not even playing, but pretty much based on history, her double doubles were insane. And you saw that when she came away from the Liberty, when she stopped playing because of her injury, they took a little dip. They had to completely reconfigure their whole game strategy. And I mean, we're seeing it now, especially with other players coming down. But she is an impactful player, and you were saying it on the show, but it wasn't until she left that you were really able to see her impact.
Roz Golden Wood
Yeah, for sure. I mean, one could argue, and there's plenty of important players on the Liberty. It's kind of a dumb argument anyway because I'm sure they don't care. Right. But one could argue John Cole Jones is the most important player on the Liberty. But I also could equally make you an argument for why Brianna Stewart is or, you know, the importance of what, you know, Unescu is doing out there. So I Think what's key is that they got players that are that important and everyone's willing to sacrifice for one another.
Juju
Yeah.
Logan Hackett
I love it.
Juju
And I just want to say because I didn't think we were going to be talking about the reserves at all. I thought we had windows to stay into, brother. I. I cannot go on this broadcast and not mention the work that Kayla Thornton is out there doing with them Valkyrie. Kayla is out there showing her behind this year after a grace great tenure with the Liberty. You feel me? She. She bring the experience and you know, Valkyrie been going through injuries. They've been going through overseas obligations and she been the steady ship that you spent. Tray ball in your mouth. Tray ball to the hole. Rebounds right game winners like salute to.
Roz Golden Wood
Kayla the week award. Did you see that?
Juju
Yeah. Look out for them Valkyrie Brock. Ain't no regular just expansion team that just you finish it play with. Nah, you better practice before you go over there. Get you one in Juju.
Roz Golden Wood
What's the plural of Valkyries again?
Juju
Valkyrie. I feel like it shouldn't be an S on Valkyrie. You sound cooler.
Roz Golden Wood
Yeah. No. Shout out to Kayla Thornton for sure Ski. I certainly hope that in one way or another she finds her way on a reserve role. Reserves are voted in by the coaches. Starters.
Juju
Yeah.
Roz Golden Wood
50 media, 24. I'm sorry, 50 fans, 25 media, 25 players.
Juju
Yeah, for sure.
Roz Golden Wood
Oh, is that the end of the show, guys?
Logan Hackett
It is. That was so much fun.
Juju
I could talk eight more hours on this. But yeah.
Roz Golden Wood
Debating your picks? No, it's. This is a safe space. All opinions welcome. Juju, you're the best. We love having you on. Thank you, Logan. Enjoy your time in France. Thank you all for watching. Good Follow. We're presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours. We do Tuesday and Thursday drops. Yes, all the things. We do Tuesday and Thursday drops. Subscribe, comment. Follow us on social media. Tell your friends. Get the word out there. We've been waiting for this scraggly 3.3000fo subscribers on YouTube. Can y' all get us 20 more people here? Come on, let's do it as a team. Anyway, thank you for tun in. We'll catch you next week.
Logan Hackett
Bye, guys.
Roz Golden Wood
Sam.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode Summary Title: Good Follow - Our WNBA All-Star Ballots: Who Made the Cut? Release Date: June 26, 2025
In this engaging episode of "Good Follow," hosts Roz Golden Wood, Logan Hackett, and special guest Juju delve into the intricacies of the WNBA All-Star voting process. As the voting period nears its end, the trio examines the current standings, highlights significant trends, and shares their personal All-Star ballots.
Roz Golden Wood kicks off the discussion by highlighting a remarkable surge in voting participation compared to previous seasons. She attributes this growth largely to the influence of star player Caitlin Clark, noting,
"The Caitlin Clark effect is real and the league is still growing."
[05:50]
Roz emphasizes the leap in votes from the previous year, where Asia Wilson topped the list with approximately 35,968 votes, to Caitlin Clark leading with an astounding 515,000 votes in the current season. This surge not only underscores Clark's popularity but also reflects the expanding fan base and increased engagement within the WNBA.
Caitlin Clark's dominance in the voting is a focal point of the conversation. With over half a million votes, Clark's impact on the league is undeniable. Roz remarks on this growth:
"We're talking about half a million votes came in for Caitlin Clark."
[05:54]
Nafisa Collier also garners significant attention, amassing nearly 500,000 votes. Juju praises her consistent performance:
"John Quill is amazing."
[19:59]
The hosts collectively recognize these players' pivotal roles in their respective teams and the league at large.
A point of contention arises when Angel Reese, despite being the most followed player on social media with 5 million Instagram followers, ranks at number 13 in the voting. Roz questions:
"Are her fan base not as active and Engaged in the moment where it matters most."
[07:16]
Juju adds a humorous take on Reese's ranking:
"She can't be too cool promoting this and that."
[08:15]
The discrepancy between Reese's social media presence and her voting rank sparks a debate on the factors influencing All-Star selections beyond mere popularity.
The hosts proceed to reveal their personal ballots, starting with backcourt selections.
Juju's Backcourt:
Roz challenges Juju's choices, noting the absence of Caitlin Clark and the heavy bias towards the Atlanta Dream:
"I just knew your ballot was going to be heavy, biased and skewing towards the Atlanta dream."
[09:40]
Juju defends his selections by emphasizing player impact over mere popularity, particularly highlighting Paige Bueckers' significant contributions despite her team's struggles.
Roz’s Backcourt: Roz opts for a more strategic approach, selecting:
She balances her picks by considering both individual performance and team dynamics, aiming for a well-rounded All-Star team.
Moving to the front court, Roz and Juju outline their selections.
Roz’s Front Court:
Roz acknowledges Jonquil Jones' injury but stands by her choice due to her overall contributions:
"Given that voting is ending like the June 28th, when I think of the body of work of what Jonquil Jones has done, I think that's worthy of her position."
[19:59]
Juju’s Front Court:
Juju emphasizes the importance of versatility and team impact in his selections, particularly praising Alyssa Thomas for her role with the Mercury:
"She makes SATU even better. I think that she has to be on this list."
[20:52]
While the primary focus remains on the starters, the hosts briefly touch upon potential reserve selections. Roz advocates for Kayla Thornton, highlighting her steady performance and contributions to the Valkyrie:
"Get you one in Juju."
[26:09]
Juju supports this by commending Thornton's leadership and clutch performances:
"She brings the experience and Valkyrie been going through injuries."
[25:16]
The discussion underscores the depth of talent in the league and the tough decisions voters face in balancing star power with consistent performance.
As the episode wraps up, Roz and Juju reflect on the dynamic nature of WNBA voting and the league's increasing prominence. They encourage listeners to participate in the voting process while acknowledging the competitive field of deserving players.
Roz concludes with an optimistic outlook:
"This is a safe space for opinions."
[26:46]
The hosts express gratitude to Juju for his insights and enthusiasm, setting the stage for future discussions on WNBA developments and beyond.
Notable Quotes:
This episode of "Good Follow" provides a comprehensive analysis of the WNBA All-Star voting landscape, blending statistical insights with passionate discussions. Whether you're a die-hard fan or new to the league, the hosts offer valuable perspectives on the players shaping the future of women's basketball.