GOOD FOLLOW - Paige Drops a 40-Piece, Liberty and Lynx Rivalry, A’ja’s MVP Run, & More

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Podcast Summary: GOOD FOLLOW – Paige Drops a 40-Piece, Liberty and Lynx Rivalry, A’ja’s MVP Run, & More

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz (Good Follow segment) | August 21, 2025
Hosts: Roz Gold-Onwude (Roz), Logan Hackett
Main Focus: Deep dive into the latest and most dramatic storylines in women’s basketball, including Paige Bueckers’ historic 44-point game, the heated Liberty vs. Lynx rivalry, A’ja Wilson’s MVP push, Angel Reese’s return, and conspiracy theories surrounding Caitlin Clark and the Indiana Fever.

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from Miami, Roz Gold-Onwude and Logan Hackett unpack the buzziest moments in women’s hoops, both WNBA and NCAA. This episode centers on the thrilling Liberty-Lynx rivalry, Paige Bueckers’ rookie dominance, A’ja Wilson’s MVP campaign, Angel Reese’s resilience, and the swirling uncertainties–or “conspiracies”–around Caitlin Clark’s injury status. Throughout, the hosts blend analysis, on-the-ground reporting, playful banter, and notable quotes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Liberty vs. Lynx Regular Season Showdown

[03:50 - 10:51]

• Series Context:

  • Four games in 20 days capped off with the Liberty finally grabbing a win to avoid the series sweep.
  • Both teams were missing key players due to injury (notably the Lynx’s Nafisa Collier).

• On-Court Adjustments:

  • Roz emphasizes the “mini playoff series” feeling, noting how continual matchups required constant tactical adjustment.
  • Liberty’s upside: Mystery remains but potential is high once key players (e.g., Breanna Stewart, Emma Meesseman, Jonquel Jones) return and mesh.
  • Lynx’s identity: “Phenomenal on defense...share the ball so well. They take care of it and they knock down threes.” (Roz, [05:46])

• Playoff Implications:

  • “I think with the skill, the versatility, the IQ, the Liberty could be very dangerous. We really have no idea just how much so.” – Roz ([06:52])

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2. Rivalry & Trash Talk Hits a Boil

[07:19 - 10:51]

• Trash Talk Spark:

  • Courtney Williams on The Studbuds podcast:
    • “Jay with the good guys now. She left that punk ass team and she with the good guys now. Straight up. Believe it.” ([07:42], Courtney Williams, via Roz)
  • Liberty coach Sandy Brondello hears of the “punk ass” label:
    • Responds with bemused dismissal, “Who's calling us a punk ass team? She goes, not me, not me.” ([08:01], Coach Brondello via Roz)

• Host Reaction:

  • Logan: "I am absolutely obsessed. And the best part about this is that it is very much on a one-sided rivalry...But this could be pretty even." ([08:16])

• Roz’s Take:

  • “This Liberty-Lynx are the best rivalry in the league right now. They’re really the only real rivalry that hasn’t been manufactured or pushed on us by…media or league prior.” ([08:33])
  • Describes it as “blossoming,” with genuine animosity and motivation, but also respect:
    • “Sabrina Yanescue told me that playing the Lynx makes them better.” ([10:22])

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3. A’ja Wilson’s Dominant MVP Campaign

[10:51 - 13:34]

• Recent Heroics:

  • Aces’ eight-game win streak, A’ja’s fourth game of 30+ points in last five, big game vs. Atlanta Dream (32/12/4/5).
  • “Asia is absolutely putting pressure on this MVP case. It is getting interesting.” – Roz ([11:24])
  • Stats during streak: 27 ppg, 13 rpg, 2 bpg, 1.5 spg.

• MVP Race Nuances:

  • Importance of not penalizing Nafisa Collier for her team’s resilience despite her absence from injury:
    • “She shouldn’t be punished because her team continue to win…they’re talented and well coached.” – Roz ([12:49])
  • Other MVPs in conversation: Alyssa Thomas, Kelsey Mitchell.

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4. Paige Bueckers Drops 44 – Rookie of the Year Over?

[16:00 - 18:58]

• Historic Performance:

  • 44 points on 81% shooting (“the first player in league history with 40 plus shooting and over 80% from the field…” – Logan, [16:03])
  • Highest scoring game by any player (rookie or vet) in the WNBA this season.

• Roz’s Verdict:

  • “It means stick a fork in it. The rookie of the year race is done. Okay? …Paige has ended it.” ([16:53])
  • “If you enjoy basketball, go watch the highlight of those buckets. It was surgical, it was clinical...Her bag is so deep.” ([17:56])
  • Acknowledges health as a key part of Paige’s story (“Health has played a big role…we’re seeing her healthy and hope we get to for a long time.” – [19:45])

• Fan Nostalgia:

  • Logan: “She is, what, seven years old saying, remember name Paige Becker. She is going to be a good one. And that's what we're witnessing right now.” ([19:35])

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5. Angel Reese’s Comeback & Reflection

[20:11 - 23:36]

• Return After Injury:

  • Logs 19 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists after missing seven games with a back injury.

• Personal Growth:

  • Angel Reese: “I love basketball. It’s my pride and joy. Sitting on the sidelines is no fun...I learned a lot about myself in the last three, four weeks. But I’m just super grateful…” ([20:28])

• Roz’s Analysis:

  • Credits Reese’s grit, improved play, and positive influence amidst a rocky Chicago Sky season.
  • “I think what I see is someone who is resilient, has a love and a passion for the game and a bumpy season, and she has a lot of respect from her peers.” ([21:41])

• Emma Meesseman’s Praise:

  • “She’s a very aggressive player…she has to be a very strong person to be able to handle everything. I don’t know if I would be able to at that age to be able to withstand all that hate…” – Emma Meesseman ([22:48])

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6. Conspiracy Corner: Caitlin Clark, the Indiana Fever, and Injury Mysteries

[23:36 - 27:55]

• Injury Questions:

  • Host confusion and frustration over messaging from the franchise:
    • “Girl, I don’t even know who to trust anymore…It doesn’t seem transparent.” – Roz ([24:09])
  • Caitlin Clark injury saga: left quad, left groin, right groin, now ankle bone bruise (“every time she tries to do more, there's a new injury...you might be playing with fire.” – Roz, [26:47])

• Roster Challenges:

  • “I don’t even think the Fever really have enough depth at the guard position to support a Caitlin Clark comeback. Like, do you have enough bodies to support that?” – Roz ([27:22])

• Season Outlook:

  • “Nothing but inspiration and respect for what this team has continued to do in the face of adversity. But it just might be time to look on to the future.” – Roz ([27:47])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Liberty-Lynx rivalry:
  • “Players are losing sleep over this...Her villain origin story came out of that final series.” – Roz ([09:40])
• On A’ja Wilson’s MVP run:
  • "It’s offense and defense. I mean it’s absolutely pressure on the MVP race." – Roz ([12:15])
• On Paige Bueckers:
  • “If you enjoy basketball, go watch the highlight of those buckets. It was surgical, it was clinical...Her talent is so crazy. She’s about to go so crazy on this league over the course of her career.” – Roz ([17:56])
• On Angel Reese’s resilience:
  • “It takes a lot of love and passion for the game and heart and work ethic to push through a turbulent second season.” – Roz ([21:15])
  • “I have a lot of respect for that. So the fact that she's still here, like, just for the love of the game...says a lot about it.” – Emma Meesseman ([22:58])
• On the Fever/Clark situation:
  • “How can we trust anyone? Why the lack of transparency here? Like, what is the motivation?” – Roz ([25:16])
  • “Might be time to shut this thing down.” – Roz ([26:47])

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Important Timestamps

• Liberty-Lynx rivalry and tactical breakdown: [03:50]–[10:51]
• Courtney Williams “punk ass” quote: [07:42]
• Roz crowns the best rivalry: [08:33]
• A’ja Wilson MVP push: [10:51]–[13:34]
• Paige Bueckers’ historic night / Rookie of the Year talk: [16:00]–[18:58]
• Angel Reese’s return & Emma Meesseman’s comments: [20:28]–[22:58]
• Conspiracy Corner – Caitlin Clark and the Fever injuries: [23:36]–[27:55]

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Episode Tone & Style

High energy, fun, informed, and conversational—with a balance of direct on-court analysis, playful irreverence, and advocacy for women’s basketball stars. The hosts are passionate, candid, and weave in notable soundbites and banter, creating both an informative and entertaining recap for fans and newcomers alike.

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This summary covers the core segments and notable sound bites from the basketball-focused “Good Follow” episode on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz (August 21, 2025), skipping all advertisements and non-content sections.

Transcript

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[Raz Goldambude]

Hey, what's up everyone? Welcome to Goodfellow show presented by DraftKings. I'm Raz Goldambude. That is Logan Hackett and. And that is my girl who just played in a pro am. Tell us how that golf swing was looking. How did you do? Boo.

[Logan Hackett]

It was looking good. It was so much fun. I was actually paired up with three players on the Toronto Scepters and then we had LPGA players. Two of them come for each nine. So Gigi stole and Amy Yang. An amazing time just being with them, hanging out with them and being able to golf, which I love so much.

[Raz Goldambude]

Did you win?

[Logan Hackett]

No. We didn't really keep score or we had a scorekeeping score for us but she didn't really tell us at the end what was going on.

[Raz Goldambude]

It was. It was for vibes. Did you have a cute. Did you have a cute golf outfit on?

[Logan Hackett]

I did. It was. We're in like a cold front right now, so it's a bit cold outside. But I did wear my Jordans. I have these Jordan golf shoes and they're my prized possessions. So that really tied everything together and obviously got lots of compliments.

[Raz Goldambude]

We are so proud of you here in the good follow family. I know everybody watching and listening right now is so proud of Logan. You go girl. Representing for us. But hey, you know what is hot? Our show that we have for you. We got the heat coming your way. Let me give you the menu. Let me tell you what we serving up and dishing out on today's show of good follow. The Liberty and the Lynx regular season series have come to an end and we are going to cover what our thoughts and reflections are from it and the trash talk that came out of it. Remember, I was just there on the call at Bar Place. And then Asia Wilson, she continues to do her thing. She's propelling the Aces to eight straight wins and she's making the MVP race tighter and tighter. And Paige Beckers, she went off for 44 points. So I ask, is the Rookie of the Year race over? And then Angel Reese, she's making her return to the court. She made a return. She comes to Barclays Center. Tonight, we're going to talk about Angel Reese's comeback. And we return to our conspiracy corner. What on earth is going on with the Indiana Fever and Caitlin Clark? Y' all is getting very, very confusing over there. We dive in.

[Logan Hackett]

And don't forget, y' all can catch new episodes not once, but twice a week. One on Tuesday and one on Thursday. And as always, thank you all for subscribing, commenting, liking following our socials, telling your friends about our show, but we have a good show to get into. So, Roz, are you ready?

[Raz Goldambude]

I'm ready. Let's do this thing.

[Logan Hackett]

Let's do it. So I feel like all season it was leading up to Liberty and Links because it seemed like they weren't playing each other. And then they faced off four times in a span of 20 days with Minnesota taking the dub three times. Now, both teams had key players out with injuries, but that didn't really seem to slow anyone down. How does the series that we just witnessed prepare the Liberty for the playoffs?

[Raz Goldambude]

Yeah, and I was just at Barclays on the call for this game. Liberty Links, the fourth one, it was absolutely electric in there. Of all the Liberty games this season, it was the most exciting. It was so cool to be on the for it. And I do think in some ways it could prepare the Liberty and the Links for the the playoffs if they see each other, you know, again as they're expecting to. Because I know for a lot of Liberty players, you'd hear them saying that this felt like a mini playoff series within the regular season just because of the way the schedule lined up and they had so many games to play against each other. For the Links, it was three straight versus the Liberty. And for the Liberty, they actually, they actually had to take a west coast road trip in between those games. So they did have some extra turmoil to deal with. Just saying. But the miniseries, it was like you had to make adjustments from matchup to matchup. I also think it was important psychologically for the Liberty to come away with that victory against the Lynx and not get swept in the regular season series, I think and I. And even though no team really seemed to want to admit it, you could very much tell on the court that the Lynx wanted to shut the Liberty out. And the Liberty really, really wanted to get one against the Lynx and certainly at home. But after that, I think it's a little bit harder to say just how helpful it is because there's a lot of players missing in the series. Obviously, the Lynx are without their MVP candidate and Nafisa Collier. They're only going to get better when Fee gets back. But here's the thing. No matter who is on the court, we know exactly right now who the Links are. They are phenomenal on defense. My goodness. And then they share the ball so well. They take care of it and they knock down threes. That's who they are. No matter who's on the court. On the other side for the Liberty, their identity is not nearly as in stone. And actually, in some ways, I think that means from this point on, if you look at both teams, in my opinion, I think it's the Liberty who have more upside. It makes them more dangerous in some ways. The potential of what they could be once they get Stewie back once, and they combine that with Emma Meesiman and Jonquil Jones and that like triplet of bigs get a chance to mesh and work with each other. Because of their IQ and because of their versatility, all of them could play with each other on the court. The Liberty could be super big on the court. Imagine also putting Leon, Leonie Phoebus on there as a wing at six four. And then it's Sabrina Yescu, she's five' eleven or at times we've even seen Coach Ro use Stewie as a point guard. And they can be really big. But I'm just. I think with the skill, the versatility, the iq, the Liberty could be very dangerous. We really have no idea just how much so. And if they can put it all together in time, we shall see. You know, all season they've been recovering from different injuries and trying to figure out, you know, rotations. So now's the time to try and put it all together just in time for a playoff run.

[Logan Hackett]

I feel like if they do end up meeting in the finals again, it's going to be even bigger and better than last year. But that actually brings me into my next point. I feel like since last year there has been a huge rivalry between the two and it is giving us so much entertainment this season. Especially with the trash talk which you all know that I love the drama. But the stud but said this on stream with the new links. Jalen Shroud. Take a look.

[Raz Goldambude]

I already said my one piece that I was going to say Jay with the good guys now. She left that punk ass team and she with the good guys now. Straight up. Believe it.

[Logan Hackett]

Believe it. T absolute tea. But word about this got back to coach Sandy and she had this to say.

[Raz Goldambude]

I heard, I heard about the punk ass thing. That's it. So yeah, so I just called out, I saw, I saw Jalen and then I saw Natisha Heinemann. I'm like, who's calling us a punk ass team? She goes, not me, not me.

[Logan Hackett]

I am absolutely obsessed. And the best part about this is that it is very much on a one sided rivalry. I mean you think about Serena Maria Sharapova, that was very much one sided. But this could be pretty even. But Ross, do you think it is the best rivalry in the WNBA right now?

[Raz Goldambude]

For sure, this Liberty Links are the best rivalry in the league right now. They're really the only real rivalry that hasn't been manufactured or pushed on us by like media or league prior. This one is, is new. It's, it's growing, it's blossoming. But it is real. It has come naturally via tough games and controversial finishes. Having a championship on the line and the trash talk, you know, you're seeing it, it's coming from the players, it's coming from the coaches, the fans. You know, Coach Brandello laughed it off there. But I know that Jonquil Jones was asked about the comments that Courtney Williams made on the Studbuds comment podcast and she didn't like it. I know the Liberty for effect heard that punk ass comment and use that promot motivation. And it was interesting that Courtney did that with their former teammate on the podcast show, Jalen Sherrod was there, which put Jalen in such an awkward situation. You know, I was like, dang, what's she even gonna do? Because obviously that's her old team, but she also wants to fit in with her new team. And like, I feel like that was kind of hard to do that to Jalen, you know, on the podcast like that. But you know, then the Liberty hit back. So post game, sabrinascue hits that big shot, they win the game and she gives the interview, she says night night. And you know, as soon as she said night night I was like, oh. But at the same time I was like, ooh, I hope that doesn't come back to bite the Liberty because I know for a fact that the links on their end are going to hold on to that night night. Oh, my God. And they're going to be waiting for a chance to give that night night back to the Liberty. So, you know, this is a rivalry, okay? It's very clear players are losing sleep over this. You know, Courtney Williams talked about how after Game 5 of the Finals last poorly and like she changed her entire life because of the Liberty. Her diet, her regimen, her routine. Think about Nafisa Collier, who once was so sweet and now during unrivaled, she did an interview talking about, yes, I am a sore loser. I'm sore about losing. You know, her, her. Her villain origin story came out of that final series. So there's so much to follow here. It's a lot of fun, I think. Also mixed in, there's a lot of respect. Sabrina Yanescue told me that playing the links makes them better. So a lot of respect too, and I look forward to hopefully seeing them again in the playoff run.

[Logan Hackett]

Yeah, absolutely not. Playoff run is going to be absolutely close. Just like the MVP race. And oh my gosh, I feel like new names are coming up every single day. Everyone's being added to the mix. But I want to talk about Asia Wilson because the Aces have now won a straight and she has been absolutely showing out, earning herself another Western Conference player of the week title and recording 32 points, 12 rebounds, forces and five blocks against the Dream. Now, this is Asia's fourth game with 30 plus points in the past five games. So how much pressure do you really think that she's putting on this MVP race?

[Raz Goldambude]

Asia is absolutely putting pressure on this MVP case. It is getting interesting. Listen, it's Asia's dominance, her sheer will, carrying the Aces to eight straight victories. This is against top opponents right now. The last victory against the Atlanta Dream. That's the number two seed in the standings. It was a lot on the line. They won by one bucket. As of taping tonight, they're going to play the Phoenix Mercury. That's a huge game. You know, you're looking at two teams that are fighting in the top quadrant of the standings right there. And for Asia, it's not just the physical dominance. For me, it's her mental dominance and how it's contagious for her team and just her overall leadership and the body of work through the season. Even though her team has not been consistent at the beginning of the year that aces stacked up losses, Asia's been very good when she's been on the court and her stats will speak to that. She's number one in the league in blocks. She's number two in scoring and rebounding. In this eight game winning streak. She's averaging 27 points, about 13 rebounds, about two blocks, one and a half steals. It's offense and defense. I mean it's absolutely pressure on the MVP race and here's where it's going to get tighter and tighter and tighter. It's where FE continues to miss games. So Nafisa Collier has missed five straight games and the more that she misses and Asia dominates and the aces find ways to continue to climb the standings, the tighter this thing will get. But one thing I really want to push back on and say should not be part of the discussion. I don't like penalizing Nafisa Collier's MVP case simply because her team is good or that they've been able to win without her. You'll hear people say that like oh FEMA's, you know, all these games and her team continue to win. Well she shouldn't be punished because they're talented and well coached. So that's what I have my eye on in this tight tightening MVP race where Alyssa Thomas is also a candidate and Kelsey Mitchell is certainly in the conversation and also fees mounting amount of games that she's missing. We'll see when she comes back which Coach Reed said is soon.

[Logan Hackett]

Oh cannot wait to see that. But I wonder what the criteria is like for choosing an MVP and I'm sure there honestly is none. But you made a great point there with not penalizing fee for missing games because that is a huge aspect. Especially because the liberty of only or sorry the links have only lost one and that was to the liberty. We are coming up we talk buckets, consumer conspiracies and more. We'll be right back.

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[Raz Goldambude]

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[Logan Hackett]

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[Logan Hackett]

The crown actually belongs to Paige Buckets right now because we have got to talk about her performance last night. She went off for 44 points while shooting 81% and broke the infamous DoorDash curse. She's the first player in league history with 40 plus shooting and over 80% from the field and has the highest scoring game this season. I mean, there was a huge debate about rookie of the year leading up to last night and at this point, I don't know if it's a conversation anymore, but what's the best way to describe what we're seeing from Paige in this rookie year?

[Raz Goldambude]

Yeah, I have an answer for you. Hold on. Okay, fork. Okay, fork. Okay, fork. Do you know what this is, Logan? Do you know what this means?

[Logan Hackett]

Either eating or fork found in kitchen?

[Raz Goldambude]

Not too sure. Logan, that completely went over your head and I'm going to say that because maybe you're just too young. It means stick a fork in it. The rookie of the year race is done. Okay? That's what these forks are for. The rookie of the race. Rookie of the year race is done, my friend. That's enough. That's enough. Everybody have a seat. The discussion is over. Paige has ended it. It has been very fun and honorable and to see how great Sonia Citron has been and certainly put some pressure on the discussion of rookie of the year. But the race is over. Friends. That's enough. Look, on top of the history that Paige has already made throughout her rookie season and all of the statistical categories that she's currently leading all rookies in. The 44 points in that game, as you brought up in beautiful graphic for us, was not only the most for any rookie ever in WNBA history, it was the most by any player of any age or rank at all this season. Nobody has scored more than 44 points this season. And certainly nobody ever in the history of the entire WNBA has anyone scored 44 or had a 40 piece at 80% shooting. She missed four shots. She was perfect from three. She shot 17 for 21. If you enjoy basketball, go watch the highlight of those buckets. It was surgical, it was clinical. Like, if you watch, you will just see that her bag is so deep. Okay. She's got such great craftiness and skill and the finishes and the handle and her poise and her change of pace and all the ranges she can score from and the footwork, it's off the catch, it's off the bounce. Paige went so crazy. Her talent is so crazy. She's about to go so crazy on this league over the course of her career. Health withstanding, I just find it really exciting as a basketball fan. Like, I think the future of Paige and the future of this league is very bright.

[Logan Hackett]

Absolutely. There could be a little conspiracy here, actually, with the fact that she's a doordash athlete and she happens to be the first player to break the doordash curse. Who knows what's going on? But very ironically, it's. If you were to say a few years ago, maybe in her freshman year at UConn that she were to score 44 points in her rookie year, a lot of people would believe that. And I think over the years she's been a bit caught up or maybe has trended downward in the conversation between layman and if she wouldn't have missed those two years, maybe she'd be higher in the conversation. But I love that everyone is now seeing what we have been been seeing. I mean, there's a tweet from someone, forget the name, but she is, what, seven years old saying, remember name Paige Becker. She is going to be a good one. And that's what we're witnessing right now.

[Raz Goldambude]

Yeah, I think part of it too is like being able to stack seasons of healthiness. And like, that's hard for players who are constantly riddled with injuries. And like, it's not even just like putting together consistent seasons that you play. It's where your body is strong and at its fullest potential. And so you know, health has played a big role in Paige's storyline and we're seeing her healthy and we hope that we get to for a long time.

[Logan Hackett]

And actually speaking of that, we saw Angel Reese returned to the court Tuesday after being out with a back injury. I feel like she's missed a ton of time as well. And despite the loss to the Storm, she still recorded 19.7 rebounds and four assists after her seven games away. And she had this to say after the game.

[Angel Reese]

It felt great.

[Raz Goldambude]

I love basketball. It's my pride and joy. Sitting on the sidelines is no fun. I have really sitting just doing recap every single day is no fun. And also just sitting and figuring out what's going on with myself. And I think I learned a lot about myself in the last three, four weeks. But I'm just super grateful for everybody that was in my corner, my teammates, my coaches that were here for me throughout process. So I'm really happy to be back with the team and just being able to be out there and give them whatever I can.

[Logan Hackett]

Absolutely love that. Now. I believe 100% almost that Chicago is out of playoff contention. They won't be going on to postseason. But even with that, how should we reflect on Angel's second year in the W?

[Raz Goldambude]

You know, watching angel talk about, you know, I'm so glad to be back playing the game that I love. She tweeted that as well after the game. I just, I believe that it takes a lot of love and passion for the game and heart and work ethic to push through a turbulent second season. That's what it has been for not only angel, but the Chicago sky this year. You know, when you think about the struggles, personally, how hard it was that she started out the season and she raised her hand and said, look, it wasn't a strong start for me, but the way she battled back and then strung together an amazing run of performances where, like the skill level showed improvement to go along with the great rebounding. And just like the response of that and how she carried her team with her, it was incredible. And then an injury hit, right, and injuries hit the entire team. There were many players that either missed chunks of the season or were out altogether. She missed seven games right now with the back injury, instead comes back and puts up 19 7. And so I think what I see is someone who is resilient, has a love and a passion for the game and a bumpy season, and she has a lot of respect from her peers. So tonight the sky are in New York. They're going to play the Liberty in Brooklyn. I'll be on the call for the Liberty sky game and actually at shoot around today for the Liberty. I spoke exclusively with Emma Miesiman and I asked her about Angel Reese. And just check out how much love and respect she gave to Angel Reese. Who Think about it, Emma Meesiman. This is her first time seeing Angel. She just got back to the W. She's never played her. She's only seen her from a distance. Take a listen.

[Angel Reese]

I mean, I think she's a very aggressive player and like, fighting for every single thing. Like, I think that's a talent too, that it's almost given. You know, you can practice that, of course, and like, it's a state of mind, but she's actually going for every single thing no matter what the situation is. So I have a lot of respect for that. You know, also, like, having seen the game from outside since she came in the league, I think she has to be a very strong person to be able to handle every single thing. I don't know if I would be able to at that age to be able to withstand all that hate, almost negative comments. So the fact that she's still here, like, just. Just for the love of the game and everything, like, says a lot about it.

[Logan Hackett]

Absolutely love that. And I love how she touched on every single aspect because I feel like a lot of people would be kind of scared or weary to touch on Angels hate. But it is very clear that Emma is seeing that and speaking on it. So huge props to Emma for that. But I do want to get into our conspiracy corner again. Oh, my goodness. So many conspiracies come to mind now that I am watching. When I watch the W, I just think conspiracy, conspiracy. But we have a huge one because what the heck? Slash and or what the fever is going on with Caitlin Clark and her injuries.

[Raz Goldambude]

Girl, I don't even know who to trust anymore. Like, who can we even listen to the messaging? It doesn't seem consistent and it's. It doesn't seem transparent. We're getting different cues from everyone from websites, from media, from reporters from the franchise themselves. Like, remember there was some hype coming in and people were getting excited for the term, the return of Caitlin Clark and. And then all of a sudden it was a strong, like just forearm in the face where coach was like, well, actually, no, she's not ramping up to come back. She's still working on body weight, running and like being full body weight. And I was like, okay, well, she walked that all the way back. And now we got a Scott Agnes report, I think that reveals that there was a setback, most recently that nobody told us about you, apparently, that this ankle bone Bruise happened on August 7th. It didn't break until August 20th. Why didn't anyone say anything? Why was it a secret? How can we trust anyone? Why the lack of transparency here? Like, what is the motivation? So it is very mysterious. Here's what I do know. Okay, Logan.

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[Raz Goldambude]

It might be time to shut this thing down. Okay. It might be time. Okay. When you think about it, it started with the left quad, then it was the left groin. Then Caitlyn tries to come back, then it's the right groin, then she tries to ramp it up. Now we're hearing there's a left ankle bone bruise. It's like every time she tries to do more, there's a new injury. You might be playing with fire. Already the season ending injuries have mounted. Arie McDonald, Sidney Coulson, Sophie Cunningham. And it's all injuries to the guards. Like, I don't even think the features really have enough depth at the guard, possession at the guard position to support a Caitlin Clark comeback. Like, do you have enough bodies to support that? And then if you think about it, she's only played 13 games. She's missed 22. Right now at the time of taping, there's nine left. Like, by the time you even bring her back, is there enough, it's barely enough time for her to really, truly catch a rhythm. You know what I'm saying? In a stride. So look, the season, it's been honorable for the Fever. Nothing but inspiration and respect for what this team has continued to do in the face of adversity. But it just might be time to look on to the future.

[Logan Hackett]

Absolutely. And maybe get some sage or something going on. Especially in Phoenix because also to think that there was the Kaitlyn Bone Brews, Eric Macdonald and Sid Colson all went down within that, what, 24 hour span in Phoenix. I mean, maybe there's another conspiracy there, but maybe they need to never go back.

[Raz Goldambude]

I love our conspiracy music and that's how we're gonna go out on this episode with talking conspiracies and all the things. But one thing, conspiracy is how much we love y'. All. We appreciate you guys tapping in and that'll do it for this episode of good follow show. It's presented by DraftKings. We're on Tuesdays and Thursdays each week. I'm Roz golden buddy. She's Logan Hackett and we'll see y' all next time.

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