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Dan Le Batard
Need some help from the group here on how to start the show because we've got in play Serena at Wimbledon, Mexico. Dos a cero. Are you chewing bacon? You're going to start chewing bacon. You're going to start eating your breakfast.
Greg Cody
I realized where it started.
Stugotz
It's the closest to the Mikey's ever been.
Louis Riddick
How many pieces of bacon are you holding there?
Greg Cody
Well, this is a. This is the best bacon I've ever had. And it's a rare double wide. When you get two pieces of bacon naturally, organically stuck together, it's just a beautiful thing. And this is the. I happen to be reading the Pride of a Lion and these two slices of bacon were right in the book, right on page 85.
Zaslow
We're not on video right now. That would have been a great visual joke for people to see the bookmark as bacon in your book.
Stugotz
He's in front of the mic, he's playing to the camera. All during a time where it's not at all necessary.
Greg Cody
Perfect. I mean, I'm bragging about the bacon they have here.
Tony
I will say it's a beautiful piece of bacon. Greg, the color on that bacon is like a leather couch.
Greg Cody
It's sublime. The taste, the thickness, it's all right on the mark. I didn't mean to interrupt the show. What were you saying?
Dan Le Batard
We have LeBron possibly coming to Miami. We have the Marlins are the best team in baseball in June, mathematically, empirically.
Stugotz
I have a blue leather couch, but
Tony
you know what I mean. A red leather couch. You know what I'm talking about, Greg, right? Nice burgundy color on the bacon.
Louis Riddick
Oh, my God, I need a new couch.
Greg Cody
Perfect. Crunch again. Little combination of crunch and chew. Oh, my God.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll, please.
Zaslow
At Lebatar show. Do you know anyone who. Do you know any adults out of college who have a blue leather couch?
Dan Le Batard
I want to know whether or not
Zaslow
anyone in our audience knows someone else who has decided that a married couple who are adults and have a child. Child have decided on the blue leather couch.
Dan Le Batard
Because I only know one person like that.
Zaslow
That is. He finished in second place in the
Dan Le Batard
recent contest for dad of Honor. Mike Ryan's the only person I know
Zaslow
who's got a blue leather couch.
Dan Le Batard
Adult, not in college.
Stugotz
It's a good looking couch.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not saying what's going on over here. I'm not saying it's not a good looking couch. I'm saying blue is. It's an aggressive choice. I'm not saying it's not a nice couch. I'm not criticizing the couch.
Stugotz
Seems like you're criticizing the count.
Dan Le Batard
I'm talking about its rarity. I'm not criticizing the couch.
Greg Cody
Well, what shade of blue is it? That's the key, because blue among all the colors, blue can vary from like a light powder sky blue to a. To an almost deep blue. Like a sea blue. A burgundy almost.
Mikey
This is a true blue.
Greg Cody
Wow.
Mikey
Like a Chelsea blue.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show. Of all the colors, does the blue have the most range of colors? Because I think Cody might have this correct.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
You have light blue, electric blue. Like, there's a whole. There's a whole.
Wynn Horst
There's a whole spectrum.
Insider
The whole spectrum of most colors.
Dan Le Batard
Yes. But blue more than most.
Wynn Horst
Thank you, Chris.
Dan Le Batard
Great intellect.
Wynn Horst
You've been smarter ever since you were on. Pablo Torre finds out.
Zaslow
It's been amazing to watch. Yes, there is a whole spectrum for
Wynn Horst
colors, but I believe Greg is right when he says more by name in the Crayola box.
Dan Le Batard
Once they go to 64, you can look this up, actually, how many blues are in the Crayola box? Because that will. That will at least help us start answering.
Tony
Depends. Is it the extendo boxes, the regular boxes, the blue box?
Dan Le Batard
I made it to 64.
Zaslow
It can't be the blue box.
Wynn Horst
There's a whole blue.
Tony
They got a whole blue box.
Wynn Horst
Do they have another box for another color?
Jeremy Tache
There are 11 shades of blue in the Crayola 64.
Louis Riddick
I feel like Greg is like. He's got a burst of energy. This. It's. It's like the bacon is like a superpower.
Greg Cody
It is. Yeah, it is. You know why? Because I don't eat it every day. Okay. So when I see bacon, it's like a grand prize to me. It feels like I've just hit the lottery, you know, and then I can't stop. Those are my seventh and eighth pieces of bacon this morning. Although when it's a double wide like that, you get to. You get to count it as one piece of bacon.
Wynn Horst
Yeah, count as one.
Roy
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Dan Le Batard
The LeBron thing to Miami is real, and I'm going to tell you why. Even as I tell you that some of my information recently out of the Heat organization can be spotty because they're always very private. But also, they're not terribly happy with me for a number of different reasons. But in the people that I have contacted, and I realized this last night, all of them are saying, I'll tell you how happy I am on July 6th. And I thought that was because that's when the Giannis thing can go through. It's because they've got a plan around Giannis. That's about this year. It's not about two years from now. And when LeBron breaks up kind of
Wynn Horst
quietly with his team, a lot of respect there for the Lakers and for Doncic. That's the first time LeBron has left the situation. That's the first time recently with these partnerships that they don't end kind of messy. And then the framing is, LeBron tells
Dan Le Batard
the Lakers he's going to go elsewhere. When they broke up with him, okay,
Wynn Horst
they're allowing him to frame it, but
Dan Le Batard
they weren't going to pay him. And when you consider some of the
Wynn Horst
moves and how they're making them, where the Wiggins deal can be traded the
Dan Le Batard
way that it's done, you're signing Hardaway.
Wynn Horst
They've got money for LeBron. They're going to have more money than the warriors to give LeBron. And the biggest thing, the most important thing, it's in the East. That's where all of his success is like. I know he won with the Lakers, but what he did for many years in that unprecedented run through the conference, it was always an easy conference, and it's still the easier conference. If you can't get past OKC and the spurs with Doncic, you're not going to do it with Golden State. And a team that's old when you consider them the playoffs last year, when all the players are broken, the oldest guys who got minutes among the top 25 were Tobias Harris and James Harden. Everyone else was under 32. You're not going to win with an old team in today's NBA. They cannot withstand the rigor of this. And I just really think the LeBron to Miami thing is real. It's not just something to talk about. It's not just because LeBron wants the attention. It's one of his options.
Stugotz
You're not going to win with an old team in today's NBA. But wouldn't Miami become an old team?
Wynn Horst
Yes, they'd be old, but their centerpiece
Dan Le Batard
is 31, not Steph Curry's age.
Wynn Horst
Yes, Miami is an old team. Like Miami is already an old team with all of the things they're doing. They've gone from a young team, an old team. What I'm telling you about that as the blueprint. It's for right now, not two years from now, not three years from now. It's an old team to win the whole thing right now.
Louis Riddick
I spent a lot of time on this yesterday, and I was a little bit disappointed in myself that I was essentially fooled, or I fooled myself a couple of days ago when the Andrew Wiggins extension came out. And, you know, three years, 64 million. I'll actually. Let me back up for a second. You know, if you're trying to look at teams who think that they have a shot at LeBron James games, well, it's easy to point at the warriors, right, because Draymond Green opted out. And that's going to give them a chance to spread a little bit of money out.
Dan Le Batard
They're the betting favorite. They're the overwhelming betting favorite to get LeBron.
Louis Riddick
So, hey, they must know something, right? They are. They are positioning themselves to have a chance at signing LeBron. It's not gonna be for a lot of money, all right? But Draymond gave them some flexibility. And when the Heat signed Andrew Wiggins to the extension, I was like, oh, three years, 64 million, nice. He saved them about $9 million a year. They're going to be able to bring back Norman Powell. No, no, no. That's not actually what happened. Andrew Wiggins opted in to the last year, the deal for $30 million, saving the Heat no money this year, and it's an extension of two years after that for 17 million PER. Why did he do that? Well, if we're talking about a trade, a sign and trade a player like Wiggins who the Lakers can use, I'm. I will never believe that LeBron is going to take any type of six million dollar contract until I see it. But 30 million dollars, when you're trading Andrew Wiggins salary for LeBron. LeBron will take 30 million. And it becomes very attractive, Dan, for the Lakers when Wiggins salary next year drops to 17.
Dan Le Batard
It's one thing with Wiggins, though, but what I'm telling you about how these architects do things, Ellisberg more than anybody, okay, the Giannis thing is a single
Wynn Horst
piece, and once that's locked in, they
Dan Le Batard
have a splayed out plan around him that is immediate.
Wynn Horst
It's not to look, Pat riley's in his 80s, man, and he is notoriously impatient. This is not a person who has much tolerance and at very many points in his career has played with the young people he played with the last couple of years who netted him nothing in the way of real results. He does not trust young players. He didn't trust them as a Coach, he does not trust them as a general manager and president. He wants to win with old veterans who have seen a little bit of everything. And I'm telling you, LeBron to Miami is real. And it's at least in part because there aren't a lot of other real competitors. Why would he go to Minnesota? Why. Why would he go play with Lonzo? Why would he go play with Lonzo Ball and Anthony Edwards? I'm sorry, Lamelo Ball. Why would he go do that and play in Minnesota and live in Minnesota?
Louis Riddick
Dan, it was literally just, what, three weeks ago when the NBA Finals are going on, and we're talking about, okay, every free agent or every player that wants a trade is going to leave the Western Conference. And it's not just about Wembanyama. It's also about Oklahoma City. So LeBron, LeBron's smart man. He knows what a good basketball team looks like. LeBron thinks that going to Golden State and teaming up with Steph Curry, who played just 40 games this past year, and Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler is not available until March, that that team is beating Oklahoma City or San Antonio.
Dan Le Batard
No, but. But more to the point, okay, what he has just seen and learned at the end of his career in Los Angeles with Luka Doncic at his side is defense is really important. And where do you get it here? This.
Wynn Horst
This is where you get defense.
Dan Le Batard
And he won't have to play it
Wynn Horst
like, with those two guys behind him. He will not have to be the one playing the defense. He just learned the last couple of years with the Lakers. No matter how good Luka is, I could be by his side with. We're terrible defensively. We do not have a chance against the two teams we keep talking about, the spurs being young and OKC and the spurs being young. Yes, they are. That's one reason to fear them. The greater reason to fear them. Both of those teams top five in defense.
Stugotz
Their front court is amazing. Defensively, they're unique in that they can come out to the perimeter. But Miami, presently on their roster, is very capable perimeter defenders as well. And LeBron can still defend, but he doesn't have to do it night in and night out.
Louis Riddick
LeBron hates playing down low, hates having to use the body, especially at this age with Miami. He doesn't have to play big. Their two big stars are big. He will not have to play big if he signs a Miami.
Greg Cody
There's no question that Giannis and Bam make Miami a great destination, particularly for. For LeBron. But don't discount Cleveland, a homecoming with Cleveland, which is second in the betting odds behind Golden State, because I don't know at this point, if LeBron is obsessed with one more championship, he's a multiple champion in a couple of different spots. If he's looking to play one more year and make it a homecoming, I wouldn't discount Cleveland.
Dan Le Batard
Rich Paul, his agent, put at the top of the list in a happiness bucket that he said had 10 or 12 things, making sure to be competitive, he's not going to go.
Wynn Horst
All of the teams that are going to be in play for LeBron, every
Dan Le Batard
single one of them is going to be competitive. He's not going to Utah.
Wynn Horst
The options are limited. Like, he does not have the kinds of options that you would think that he would have because not a lot of people have the kind of money that he's going to need. And the warriors are among the teams
Dan Le Batard
that at the moment don't have the money.
Tony
And the warriors, not only that, the Cleveland Cavaliers. You want him to play with James Harden also for the twilight of his career, being like, all right, let me figure out how to get James Harden over the hump. Like, there's a lot there. If they even keep James Harden, right? Like, if they ship him out for an incoming trade with LeBron, then all of a sudden you're looking around saying, all right, I got Spider Mitchell, I got Evan Mobley and Jared Allen. All right, good luck. Like, is that competitive in the East?
Stugotz
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Mikey
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Stugotz
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Mikey
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Dan Le Batard
It's. It's good value because I. I will tell you again that it is real. It is more real than the idea that windhorse is floating. LeBron and Jaylen Brown teaming up with the Cavs.
Louis Riddick
What is that?
Dan Le Batard
That's a mess.
Tony
Then you lose your front court. Are they going to trade Evan Mobley? Like, where does. Where does James Harden go?
Louis Riddick
But besides, like, Boston, when Boston trades Jalen Brown, they're not trading him to a team that they're gonna have to then beat in the playoffs. Like, they're not going to trade him to Cleveland. Excited for summer? Hosting a pool party, a barbecue, or just looking forward to some relaxing time at home at Orkin. They've been building their pest knowledge and expertise for 125 years, and they know that no matter what your summer plans are, most people don't want cockroaches involved. Shocking, right? Well, as Supporters of summer plants, both big and small. Orkin is here to stay one step ahead of pes. So you can stay one step ahead of your schedule. Visit orken.com today for a free estimate.
Stugotz
Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?
Tony
I know it.
Unknown
Well.
Tony
It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.
Roy
Yeah.
Stugotz
You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.
Mikey
Walking like this.
Stugotz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.
Tony
It has that effect on people.
Stugotz
It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it Cuervo.
Tony
Keep it cuervo, baby.
Mikey
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Roy
Levitar.
Louis Riddick
Can't trade Marino.
Zaslow
Nice hat.
Greg Cody
Nice hat, Zach.
Louis Riddick
It's what he's most known for. It's like I'm holding onto it.
Roy
Greg Cody.
Greg Cody
Nice.
Louis Riddick
They were nine and two, but it's Marino.
Roy
And then the next time we saw
Louis Riddick
Marino, after Greg Cody traded him, he threw for five touchdowns and he was getting the man on the COVID of Sports Illustrated. You can't trade Marino.
Greg Cody
Nice hat, asshole.
Roy
This is the Dan Levatar show.
Dan Le Batard
Let's go out to the whiteboard where Jeremy Tache is the white person. Go ahead, Jeremy.
Jeremy Tache
Hi. I have money here for all of these teams. So you have the Cavaliers, the Warriors and the Miami Heat. I've written down where things stand at the present moment, but there's maneuverability with all of these teams. So presently the warriors have the non tax mid level exemption open in full. That's $15.1 million. But the only reason that's the case is because Draymond Green is presently unsigned. He opted out of a $27.7 million deal. So to be able to sign LeBron James outright and sign Draymond back, if LeBron was at that number, Draymond would be taking over a 10 million dollar pay cut for this season and they would then have to squeeze the rest of their players into the margins. It probably would end up being less than $17 million for Draymond. So that doesn't seem to be right. The guy they could be trying to move right now is Moses Moody. To potentially clear up space, he makes $12.5 million. When you look at the Cavaliers, the Jaylen Brow was floated, you would need to be basically breaking up the team that you have. You have James Harden presently opted out. But the only thing at the moment that the Cavs can offer is the veteran minimum. They're over the salary cap, so they're trying to move guys reportedly like Dennis Schroeder and Max Streuss guys who are making 14.8 and $16 million respectively. And then you look over at the Miami Heat. Now at the moment after the Tim Hardaway Jr. Signing, the Heat have $6.5 million left in their mid level exemption. But that 15.1 can become available on the MLE if you move a Bobby Portis who technically has not been traded to the Heat yet and ship him somewhere else. If you're able to move Nikola Jovic and as Zaz brought up, that Andrew Wiggins contract is most interesting right now. Having him opt in and then create what is going to be one of the better contracts in the league next year, 32 year old Andrew Wiggins at $17 million with a player option is going to be one of the better deals. So whether that's still on the Heat or moved elsewhere, like potentially those Lakers, there are all sorts of route for the Heat to open up money. But the question becomes, could a team like the Timberwolves jump in or even Dwyane Wade's Utah Jazz. Those are the questions we have to ask.
Dan Le Batard
We don't have to ask that. I can answer both of those for you. No, you don't have to take Minnesota or Utah.
Zaslow
Series.
Wynn Horst
LeBron and Utah.
Louis Riddick
That would be so funny.
Tony
Hey, I'm leaving family. I'm going to go to Utah.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Wynn Horst
So Bronny got his money guaranteed by the Lakers yesterday.
M
Yeah.
Roy
Good. Dad.
Wynn Horst
LeBron Draymond is trying. Draymond is trying and has been trying
Dan Le Batard
for a while to figure out how to play with LeBron. Draymond represented by the same management team as LeBron. So is Anthony Davis. The Wizards are saying Anthony Davis is not on the market in any way, shape or form. It is interesting to know that Draymond and LeBron have the same management team because the maneuvering around the Giannis stuff, both in Miami, where I am assuring you that the Wiggins contract is not a success. If Andrew Wiggins is here for all three of the years they did that, to have the flexibility to move him,
Zaslow
because that is a.
Dan Le Batard
That is a valuable asset. He has been good for them.
Wynn Horst
But they made a cheap, easy signing
Dan Le Batard
in Tim Hardaway Jr. And I'm telling you, the league is paying attention. Wait a minute. Giannis is going to go eat at the rim and I can just shoot three. So Tim Hardaway's got a one year deal and he's saying, no, no, I
Wynn Horst
was really good in Denver.
Dan Le Batard
I've become a really good three point shooter.
Wynn Horst
I'll never wear my father's number in
Dan Le Batard
Miami because he's already told you, Donnis, Haslam and Mike Miller, that his kid ain't wearing his number.
Mikey
Would you like to see your son
Tony
in the Heat jersey?
Louis Riddick
Do you think it happens before he retires?
M
I've been trying to get him in a Heat jersey and he will not be wearing my number. If he gets on the HE team, he will not be wearing my number. Do you understand me? That number is never coming down. You are not going to wear my jersey.
Jeremy Tache
I agree.
M
See how I walk now?
Wynn Horst
It hurts when I walk.
M
That's why my jersey's up. You are not going to wear my jersey. Then my wife be like, well, why not?
Wynn Horst
Because he's not.
Dan Le Batard
That is not a dad of honor. It's just not a dad of honor.
Zaslow
What do you think of that?
Dan Le Batard
You're a selfish dad, Greg.
Greg Cody
Sure I am.
Zaslow
What are your thoughts on holding back your sons? Like, it would be great if they
Wynn Horst
took the number out of the rafters
Zaslow
and draped Tim Hardaway Jr. In the giant jersey.
Greg Cody
I love Tim's attitude. And Tim Senior is who. I mean, he's being truthful. He earned that number. He earned the rafters. His son. His son's had a nice career. He's played in the league like 12 years. He's a good sixth man. I think he's a good signing for the Heat, particularly if they lose Portis good three point shooter. But he's not Tim Hardaway, the dad. And I love the fact that he's not just playing nice and saying, yeah, I'd love him to have my number. No, nobody's gonna get my number because it's way up there.
Louis Riddick
I hate when players, they ask the retired jersey guy, can I have your number? No, it's retired. That's what that means.
Greg Cody
Yes.
Dan Le Batard
All right, put it on the poll at LeBatard show. If your jersey were retired, would you let your son wear it? Yes or no is the question. I just posed the question to the dad of honor last night. Las Rosas has a big semiannual award where they give a dad of honor, his honors for being a dad.
Zaslow
And here you see a shocked and
Dan Le Batard
altered Zaslow out very late at 5pm
Zaslow
and out past his bedtime.
Tony
What are you in the blue man group? What is this? They dyed you blue in there.
Zaslow
And that trophy is very small.
Wynn Horst
The dad of honor trophy seem like it's very large.
Dan Le Batard
Do you have it?
Louis Riddick
No, no, I left it there. I left it there because I want everybody who shows up to Las Rosas to remember, you know, what happened that night and that. That was me given that. That award.
Stugotz
It's on proud. It's on proud display.
Louis Riddick
Yeah, that's right.
Dan Le Batard
All of you are with Tim Hardaway senior on this.
Zaslow
I.
Dan Le Batard
This is a funny repeat question we
Zaslow
used to always ask on highly questionable.
Dan Le Batard
We would ask NBA players, when did your dad stop playing basketball against you? And all of them said, every one of them, it was a consensus as
Zaslow
soon as I got very close to
Dan Le Batard
beating him for the first time. Like, that's when the foul started.
Zaslow
And that's where the aggressive play started. And I became bloodied. And he knew I was. I was going to be better than him. And that's when he retired. And so there is a weird thing here with dads and competitiveness. I think it would be a great honor if.
Wynn Horst
If they unretired the number exclusively just so his son could wear it and then would re. Retire it when his. When his son was done playing for them.
Insider
That's the key for Me, if it's going back up in the rafters after, then I would let my son wear.
Greg Cody
Absolutely besmirches, the hallowed number. It really does. I mean, plus, it's so ceremonial if you do it like that. Come on.
Louis Riddick
There's no caveat. We're retiring your number. Unless you want to take it down one day and give it to someone. No, no, not someone. Yeah, someone.
Wynn Horst
Not someone. Someone who is literally a piece of you.
Louis Riddick
He's someone.
Zaslow
The only someone who can be a piece of you are the children.
Stugotz
Now, these numbers aren't retired, but they are honored by the Miami Heat. Numbers 23 and 6.
Louis Riddick
Correct.
Stugotz
So we're going to have to do something like that once LeBron gets here, which I am now certain is going to happen.
Wynn Horst
You're now certain?
Stugotz
Yeah. You guys laid out the perfect argument.
Wynn Horst
It's just enticing is what I'm telling you. And it's a legitimate option. It's real. And the Heat think it is something that can happen, because I did.
Dan Le Batard
I had not realized until last night because I just. I've not been chasing this story because I know right now that they're not happy with me. And as it relates to some of the things that we do around here, we don't trade the access for favor. I'm gonna try and do, you know, the job the way that is responsible to the audience. And so my information on Yanis has been very limited.
Wynn Horst
But the fact that, in one voice,
Dan Le Batard
what's coming back to me is, I'
Wynn Horst
tell you how happy I am July
Dan Le Batard
6th, when I'm saying, hey, congratulations on getting Giannis.
Wynn Horst
And there's not. It's not just Giannis. The plan is the plan. The utopia is not just Giannis that Tim Hardaway Jr. Knows what the plan is. If someone asked him, Hardaway Jr. What he just decided to do for a year at $6 million with this particular
Dan Le Batard
time in his career, because he could have gotten more than that. That.
Wynn Horst
That. Look up for me, please.
Dan Le Batard
I don't know if this is public or not, but I've heard Tim Hardaway talk about it. Seniors, so I don't think. I don't think that he would mind me telling the story. I'm pretty sure that while I don't have the facts that Tim Hardaway Sr. Went into some financial difficulties involving his house, and the Heat helped him out with his home.
Louis Riddick
Yeah, this is public knowledge at the time.
Dan Le Batard
And so it's an unusual relationship, I would say, that the Miami Heat cultivates, and it's a Rare thing to have the same people in charge for 30 years. It's not normal in sports. The whole thing is transient, okay?
Wynn Horst
But when the Miami Heat talk about
Dan Le Batard
the loyalty and the lifers that they have, Tim Hardaway senior is someone they regard that way so much that when
Wynn Horst
he hits financial trouble after he played
Dan Le Batard
for them, this is not something that that happened when he played for them,
Wynn Horst
after he played for them, they helped
Dan Le Batard
bail him out with his home.
Stugotz
Tim Hardaway Jr. Was in Michigan. So this isn't a tampering thing.
Tony
Thank God we had already graduated because we played against each other in 2010. He was already Michigan in 2011. Business
Insider
Insider headline from 2011. Miami, he buys $2 million mansion to rescue Tim Hardaway from tax debt.
Dan Le Batard
So Tim Hardaway Jr. Now comes to Miami and he was very good in Denver last year. Serviceable player like, just is very good at shooting threes.
Louis Riddick
Yeah, good, good bench player.
Stugotz
Reshaped his career because when he was with Dallas it was looking like he was done.
Dan Le Batard
And so you have Wiggins and you have Portis. Again, old team, but you do have shooters around what is going to be the core defensively. And we always ignore this side of the ball. But the reason that Bam has not been tradable is because they love his defense, because they always. They fell apart late last season, but
Wynn Horst
since Bam's been there, they're always great at defense. It does not matter who the players are.
Dan Le Batard
You add Giannis to that, obviously you're
Wynn Horst
doing things with length that are going to be enticing to LeBron James. So let me present it to you another way.
Dan Le Batard
Why wouldn't you do Miami if you're LeBron James? Like, is it because gold?
Wynn Horst
You think Golden State is that enticing? Because playing with Steph is absolutely enticing. I would love to watch that and they would love to do it. They would have a great deal of fun playing basketball. That is an enticement that I believe the Miami Heat cannot provide him. But what they can provide him is that basketball will be easier for him here than there because they're going to play defense and he's not going to
Louis Riddick
have to be the one playing it a lot easier. I'll go back, I'll go back to what I said earlier. He. He understands what a championship caliber team looks like. And I'm sorry, you cannot make the case that that Golden State team, especially without Jimmy available until March, is a championship caliber team when they have to play in that conference. Boar's head brings to the deli the taste of deep fried turkey. One bite and flavor takes over. Perfectly seasoned and deliciously golden fried. A backyard tradition available at the Deli Presenting the Fryer's Turkey bread only from Boar's Head Discover the craftsmanship behind every bite at your local Boar's Head Deli or deli counter. Boar's Head Committed to craft since 1905,
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can't wait for 39.
Greg Cody
Yeah, I can't either. 40 comes first.
Louis Riddick
Do you know what 40 is yet?
Greg Cody
Not yet. See?
Wynn Horst
What are we doing?
Zaslow
Greg, did you just laugh? Did you just laugh out loud at something Lewis said in your ear?
Roy
Great. Cody.
Greg Cody
Yes. I couldn't help it. It was funny. Thanks, Louis. Gagging the goose,
Tony
of course.
Greg Cody
Choking the frog. I mean, there's a million of them. Of course, half of them would sound dirty if we keep doing it.
Roy
This is the Dan Levitar.
Wynn Horst
So here is Wynn Horst.
Zaslow
He is being quoted here.
Dan Le Batard
You can hear him on get up. I encourage you not to do that because you need to stay here. Who acted with knowledge? Did the Cavs act with knowledge?
Wynn Horst
Did the Heat act with knowledge?
Dan Le Batard
Did the Lakers act with knowledge? No. The warriors acted with knowledge. Draymond opted out. That's all I'm going to say. That's not all he's going to say.
Wynn Horst
LeBron has made it clear money is
Dan Le Batard
not driving this decision. That means he can choose a team that can win a championship immediately.
Wynn Horst
You need to look at teams he'd feel comfortable playing With.
Zaslow
With.
Wynn Horst
It's only a couple.
Dan Le Batard
He'd consider the Miami.
Wynn Horst
He just traded for Giannis. He has a history there.
Dan Le Batard
They have Bam Adebayo. If he walked in, they'd form a
Zaslow
new Big three Heat.
Stugotz
Knicks is so back.
Dan Le Batard
I can't believe that in 2026, we're actually having the conversation that the Knicks don't want any involvement in LeBron.
Wynn Horst
If you ask the Knicks right now, do you want LeBron James, the answer would be no.
Louis Riddick
How about 16 years later, we're doing the Summer of LeBron again?
Greg Cody
Yeah, it's amazing, right? They got him in his prime at 25, and now he's 41. And they're. They're interested again. That's an amazing compliment to LeBron. But let me ask Dan a question that I think he's equipped to answer. When LeBron left the Heat earlier than some hoped he would and thought he would, it wasn't a great departure. There were some. Some issues with his relationship with Pat Riley and all that stuff. Has that mended to the degree that you're comfortable saying, no problem?
Zaslow
Yeah.
Greg Cody
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
And when I say it's been mended that way, I've never seen Pat Riley crazier than after LeBron left. And it was for months, like, it was among the most brutal blows in his career, because it was the ego swipe of.
Wynn Horst
Of watching the player take the power
Dan Le Batard
in a way that made Riley have to go re recruit LeBron when Riley's general feeling was, well, didn't we win two championships? I've got to go re recruit you. And the story I've told before of Pat Riley in a room having to wait to meet with LeBron.
Wynn Horst
LeBron's, what Phil Jackson would call LeBron's
Dan Le Batard
posse, because this was a power game between the Phil Jacksons and Pat Riley getting to control the sport and LeBron and his agent controlling the sport.
Wynn Horst
In the room where he was recruiting
Dan Le Batard
them, he had to ask them to turn off the television.
Louis Riddick
Wasn't it also the World Cup?
Dan Le Batard
It was the World cup, yeah. He had to ask them to turn off the television because they were distracted while he was doing the recruiting. And like, all of that ended up being publicly humiliating because we have the pictures of Pat Riley and Andy Ellisberg at a sad Las Vegas blackjack table
Wynn Horst
wa to meet with LeBron as everyone's wondering what he's going to do and Wade is flying all around him. It is amazing that we're doing this with the oldest player in the league all these years later, but also amazing.
Zaslow
Like it.
Wynn Horst
To me, it is crazy that LeBron still can dominate a free agent conversation at this age.
Louis Riddick
Oh, he loves it.
Wynn Horst
No, I know he loves it, but he's gotten very good at it. And the fact that he can do it in the middle of the World cup and still be of interest and it feels like Golden State State. It seemed to me when the news broke LeBron tells Lakers he'll be playing elsewhere next season. It seemed to me that just before that everyone assumed, well, it's going to be Golden State. The reports are Anthony Davis and LeBron. It's a betting favorite everywhere that LeBron is going to go to Golden State. But once you announce we'll play elsewhere. And once you announce I'm leaving my free agent options open, that's not just to get the attention, it's to leave the free agent options open. Like it. I know in the past people think that he and Aaron Rodgers do some of this stuff for attention and it's fair criticism, I get it. But it's not just for that this time. Like he understands his place in the world. Cuz the last time with the World cup you remember he flew from Vegas to Brazil. He still hadn't made a decision. He was like flying to World cup games. People were following him around from gym to gym, wherever it is that he was. He really changed the way we do all of this. The fact that we talk this much about transactions during basketball is something that he burned with all of that 16 years ago. It's just nuts that this is still in play and he fits here. That's the other thing. Like however it is that you want to concoct these scenarios that have Jaylen Brown and James Harden and you know, Donovan Mitchell, he fits in Golden State where they're not going to play any defense. Draymond Green is a reigning defensive player of the year many times over. And old like. And he's all they've got defensively. You cannot have a bunch of late 30 year old guys trying to guard everybody. And say what you will about the Heat being old. Bam. And Giannis are built to run right now, right? This is their 29, 30, 31 year old. You don't want to be doing this like with Kawhi at 35 in Toronto, you want to be doing it right here in this window. And it's not for 18 months from now. Like it's not. You guys keep talking the last couple of days about year two, year two, year two. This is the weakest of the Giannis teams. I don't think it's going to be. Be like, I. I think they're going to get a real ass team around him with the promise of Giannis. You want to rebuild your career and your legacy. Will Bonds already forgotten about you? He ain't waiting a year either. Like, he. He already waited a year. He wasted last year. Last year's totally wasted. This is about right now. It's not. It's about July 6th. The Heat expect to be saying something more than. It's just Giannis and Hardaway and Portis.
Louis Riddick
I think if he were going to Golden State, okay, why Golden State made that move. I think if he was Draymond, I think if he was going to Golden State, if it was a sure thing, it would have happened right away. Remember when he left Cleveland to go to the Lakers, there was no free agency. Like we all knew throughout the year, he's going to leave Cleveland and go to the Lakers. And then one day, we just got the report, like on the bottom of the crawl on ESPN. LeBron announces he is signing with the Los Angeles Lakers. That was a done thing. He didn't do this whole free agency song and dance. Now do I believe that? He loves the attention and at his age, right now, he kind of wants to show everybody, hey, I still run this league. Look at everybody looking at me. I do think there is something to that. But if it was a shirt thing, he was going to Golden State, I think it would be done already.
Greg Cody
The NBA always wins the off season. And the two biggest stories of this offseason were Giannis and LeBron. What is their future? And now the Miami Heat might win both of the two biggest stories Pat Riley has put up for 10 years, hearing the games pass him by. He's too old. He can't sign the Whale anymore. He can't win the big guy. And now he's won Giannis. If he gets LeBron, too, Pat Riley should throw up a big middle finger to everybody who's criticized in the past 10 years.
Stugotz
Yeah, totally. If he gets that done. Do you think LeBron still has the checkered pattern shirt? Because that'd be pretty dope. Does Jim Gray have one more in him?
Jeremy Tache
Ooh, it should be one.
Zaslow
We should figure out how to do
Dan Le Batard
some things with that shirt. We should lure him here by seeing
Zaslow
if we could get shirts here that
Dan Le Batard
just have the show begging all over again for LeBron to come here. I believe the summer of 2010 is something that ended up building our studios at the Clevelander. Like the economy that he brought to Miami was substantive.
Louis Riddick
If I can tell you, you, funny enough, 16 years ago, that week of NBA free agency, I was filling in for Stu Gotz that entire week I was doing the show next to you. And you did the whole. You and Stephen A. Smith went. Put your names out there and said, this is happening. And I was next to you that whole week. And I remember how intense. And I'd say I was really young. I was. Greg. I was very young. And I remember how intense those shows were because it was like, holy shit. You, Stephen A. You're putting your names out there for something that is really, really massive. And how exciting it was that this was potentially going to.
Wynn Horst
That's as scared as I've ever been giving a report. And it's as scared as Stephen A. Smith has ever been giving a report. And he also said afterward, I will never do that again.
Dan Le Batard
He was so scared because the information was locked down. Organization is really private.
Wynn Horst
And there, there was a lot of. There was just so much misinformation. So many people were getting it wrong. And no one thought at any point, really, no one thought. Because I remember doing this show with
Dan Le Batard
Wilbon and Kornheiser and, and. And Bill Simmons and we did like
Wynn Horst
a free agency special. And the idea that I was putting Bosh, Wade and LeBron together, they laughed
Dan Le Batard
out of the room. Like, they said it was a stupidity. And everyone thought that because they didn't think that any.
Wynn Horst
Any three would team up.
Greg Cody
I don't think in 2010, we fully appreciated what we were getting in LeBron. He was just really coming into his prime at 25, and what he would become was greater than what we thought we were getting in 2010, I think. But the idea that 16 years later, at 41, he still commands this kind of interest, it's just. It's the same. We see what age does to other athletes. We just saw what it did to Serena Williams at Wimbledon. And for LeBron at 41 to still be at this level, it's just amazing.
Insider
Sham Sharania has tweeted. Free agent Norman Powell has agreed to a two year, $45 million deal with the Chicago Bulls.
Stugotz
Well, no, now you don't talk. Tell me what this means.
Roy
Now you shut up.
Louis Riddick
I mean, you got me all hot
Stugotz
and ready for LeBron again. What does it mean, Jeremy?
Jeremy Tache
I mean, it means they moved on from Norman Powell. They couldn't get a sign and trade done, but also probably at this point didn't want to make a sign and trade. Right.
Louis Riddick
It's not in there it's not.
Roy
What's our plan?
Stugotz
Is it LeBron?
Louis Riddick
Are you paying attention?
Roy
Yeah. No, no, no.
Stugotz
Does this help or does it hurt? Does it help or does it hurt? Can you tell me? Are we closer?
Zaslow
It helps.
Roy
All right.
Stugotz
Sweet Norman.
Dan Le Batard
Norman Powell's options were limited. The Bulls are a bit broken and going allows him to sort of have his own team. He got a little bit used to that here for half a season. He enjoyed it. They were playing unique offensive basketball around him. And before we get too far down the path of who is the next guy through the door? I don't want to dishonor some of the people who are leaving. I thought we did that with Tyler Herro as a show. We'll probably do that with Norman Powell as a show. I mean he was an all star while he was here. But I don't want to do that to Sergei Bobrovsky because it's one of the most interesting careers we've ever had in South Florida. I remember this show being very loud about not wanting him around for many years.
Wynn Horst
And then he became a two time champion goaltender and someone you trusted in
Dan Le Batard
the playoffs to be great back when hot goaltender is how we were doing much of the math in the playoffs with underman teams. Sergey Bobrovsky ends up being one of the great free agent signings in the
Wynn Horst
history of of this market. Even though for half of it all
Dan Le Batard
of you were calling him a bum.
Louis Riddick
I kicked him out of this city several times in the first few years of his seven year $70 million deal. And now I will tell you he is the greatest free agent signing in the history of the Florida Panthers. It's an unbelievable run or turnaround if you will, that he had. I'm sad that it is officially over now, but that guy is my dog. I'm not upset with him at all. I love you Sergey Bobrovsky and I look forward to his number going up in the rafters.
Stugotz
Me too. He's a legend. I think you're right. Most impactful free agent signing ever. But when Dan says you guys wanted him out of here. Not just us. Remember how this run started? With their first Eastern Conference championship of this core as an eight seed. It started because Alex Lyon got them to the place playoffs. He was benched. He was the worst free agent signing arguably ever. And then what a turnaround for his story.
Zaslow
It's crazy.
Stugotz
Becomes a two time champion, has one of the most iconic saves in the history of the sport. It's awesome with the bobbery and forever a champion. Forever a Legend, a hall of Famer and definitely going to have that 72 retired.
Greg Cody
Yeah, I think he's going to. I think he has left as one of the most popular players in franchise history. A monumentally awful quote in the post game. When you went to him after the best game possible, you got the same stuff.
M
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Bad interview, just awful. Roy did one of those with him.
Greg Cody
Oh my God, Greg.
Stugotz
Most important, number 72 in the history
Mikey
of South Florida sports.
Stugotz
Richmond Webb, the perfect team or Sergei Bobrovsky.
Greg Cody
I'm old school, you got to go the perfect team. But I think Bob and Webb would be right up. When you think of the back to back Stanley Cups, what player do you go to first? Probably Barkov and Bob. Right? I mean those two.
Dan Le Batard
I love that you answered that question. Seriously, Greg.
Greg Cody
I did.
Dan Le Batard
Richmond Webb, 72.
Zaslow
Sergey Bobrovsky or the only perfect team in the history of professional football.
Stugotz
Richmond Webb was number 78.
Greg Cody
You know. Yeah. He's trying to trick me over here. This guy. It seemed like 72 when you said it. It sounded like.
Insider
I think Vernon Carey was 72.
Stugotz
That's who I mean, meant.
Greg Cody
Okay. No, we don't. Vernon, I love you, but you're no Bob.
Dan Le Batard
Wow.
Zaslow
2 I love you in this segment. Zaz just said I loved you to Boski and Greg shouted out, and I love you as well.
Wynn Horst
Let's empty the Bovski file here. Solemnly and respectfully here.
Dan Le Batard
What do we have from our file on Sergey Bobrovsky?
Roy
Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby. Thank you.
Zaslow
Okay. An excellent, excellent work at the parade. What else do you have there from the Bobrovsky file?
Roy
The guitar riff.
Zaslow
That was Roy going to Canada and coming back with only a guitar riff. There was only Anna Bobrovsky interview. That was not any good.
Greg Cody
He.
Stugotz
He said so little that we just don't want to play what he said. It was the star of the show was the riff.
Zaslow
Yes. They needed to dress it up a little bit because Roy came back with a Bobrovsky interview. Again, that was not any good. And so they put a guitar riff on it and it made it much better.
Dan Le Batard
Anything else in the Bobrovsky file?
Wynn Horst
Sergey Bobobkov.
Date: July 1, 2026
Location: Live from the Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This episode of the "Local Hour" is a quintessential blend of Miami sports heat, pop culture banter, and the unique chemistry of the Dan Le Batard crew. As free agency chaos brews, the cast debates the possibility—and the logistics—of LeBron James returning to the Miami Heat, celebrates (and eulogizes) the storied Miami career of Panthers goaltender Sergei Bobrovsky, and veers through topics ranging from blue leather couches to the sanctity of retired jersey numbers. The tone is both irreverent and insightful, with insider info and emotional notes about the changing face of Miami sports.
This episode is a case study in what makes The Dan Le Batard Show a Miami sports institution: deep inside reporting, nostalgia, irreverent humor, and emotional investment in both local legends (LeBron, Bobrovsky, Tim Hardaway Sr.) and the evolving fabric of South Florida sports. For casual listeners, it’s a crash course in Miami’s current sports zeitgeist as LeBron rumors—and the ghosts of "The Decision"—loom over the city once again.