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Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
We root for America.
Greg Cody
No, you root for the best story. You root for the underdog. You root for the Canadian.
Juju
Put in the club.
Greg Cody
Better. You root for the Canadian team. Oh, my.
Katie
Get. No joker. Oh, my.
Tony
What was that word?
Juju
Put it in the club. Oh, my.
Greg Cody
I'm getting old.
Juju
Junker.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
I don't know how you guys felt about watching what happened in hockey last night, but at this point, I really do feel that it is cruel what America does to Canada's proudest teams when it comes to winning the championship. I cannot imagine how anybody who cares about hockey in Canada would feel in terms of the height of angry that this year you're looking at Vegas and Carolina on the sport they invented, and to get squashed out like that at home, where when they come out of the locker room, you know they're done at home. Just cruel.
Dan LeBatard
I just want to keep it like it was Florida and Vegas four years ago. So it was probably the same reaction.
Tony
Yeah, I. I said after Game 3, with Game 4 being in Montreal and the Canadiens down two games to one, I don't think I've ever felt a series being over more than I did at 2:1 than this series at just 2:1. Like, Montreal has nothing for Carolina. It's the second straight game and including overtime in the last game, second straight game that Montreal had no shots in the third period, like, Carolina suffocates them. And really just throughout the game, like, they have no shot attempts. Montreal, you're watching knowing they have no chance.
Dan LeBatard
Plus, they had played 18 games so far in these playoffs. Two series have gone to seven games, and they played multiple overtime games, as Zaslow said, and mostly every game, they have had just about 15 to 20 shots on goal.
Stugats
Just.
Tony
They. They. They got no chance. Montreal, it was so frustrating watching last night. I root for Mont anyway, the Panthers are not involved because my family's from there, and that was a difficult watch. It's such a great atmosphere, and if you're a fan, you didn't get to see them celebrate even once.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Oh, but the thing that I'm asking you guys, like, when Roy says there's a precedent for this by saying, hey, remember, it was Vegas in Florida. Yeah, but are you trampling the greatest hopes of the entire country at the end? At the end, do you have to go watch Vegas do that with that record as not just any team, but Montreal, one of the original ones, like, these people think they invented hockey to watch these two teams take the sport from Them, I'm saying emotionally cruel to people who care about hockey. Like something that would be prosecuted if it was done by a criminal.
Juju
You're doing that tone again.
Stugats
But it's awesome. Now get them, dad.
Greg Cody
That's right.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Go get them. I just felt bad for Montreal. They care so much about hockey at Vegas and Carolina. Vegas and the cheap guy. All right. Tortorella and the chief guy.
Katie
I just want to laugh at them. It's hilarious.
Tony
I mean, I know people, you know, general public doesn't necessarily care about this stuff, but you want to talk about, like, ratings wise and how many people are going to watch Carolina. Vegas is. Is going to do very.
Katie
It'd be like if all the SEC teams just like stopped winning.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Yeah, but I also don't think that's fair because we have inundated our audience with two years of Panthers talk. They did. And Florida was doing that to the entire sport. And ratings. I mean, Montreal is crushed today. Like wherever it is that regions get crushed across the path here, like wherever it is. We've been watching playoff stuff for the last. Maybe Boston, maybe the Celtics. The way it went out in the first round in terms of what a city does and feels around its regional identity. The Montreal Canadiens choked out like that at the end of the season. Like, I'm not kidding. Cruel to Canada, I think.
Greg Cody
I think Montreal is crushed, but not surprised. I mean, Carolina was the favorite in this series. They've had this kind of a disappointment since 1993. They're used to it by now, right? I mean, they just lost the gold medal to the United States. I mean, they have to be getting over the fact that, look, we're not winning right now. Now, what Canada would say is that half of the roster on every team is Canadian. It's not like Canada still doesn't run the NHL in a way, but their teams from their country are just snake bit. They just can't win.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
I don't remember when's the last time a Canadian team won the championship.
Greg Cody
1993.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
All right. So sorry. I didn't. Didn't listen to you on that, Roy. A watch party on Friday night. A live stream you guys are doing as part. Are we doing one of those for the basketball finals? Are we doing. Are we doing that?
Stugats
We are tonight. You can catch us live on The Levitar Show YouTube page, man. Me, my sister and my brother, we live tonight, man.
Juju
I forgot to tell you, Juju. I have to do that from the phone.
Stugats
All good. All good.
Juju
It's my birthday and I'm going To North Miami.
Greg Cody
Hello.
Juju
Gonna have a little dinner.
Stugats
We might need to do it from the phone.
Juju
Yeah, let's do it from the phone then. You want to come with me? Katie Mox. You know Katie Salute. She lives in Fort Lauderdale. So we're meeting halfway.
Greg Cody
Halfway.
Katie
As she should.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Let's get to the catchphrases here. We have to update this before Greg Cody gets out of here. And I do want to get to the basketball as well. Jeremy Tache and pitch clock, if you want your baseball, because we have not talked. There are some cool things happening in baseball and we just did. Skip past what I said, which is so Ohtani. Couple games in a row now. Lead off home run last night, 426ft to center field. And then no hit them. And then after the game was frustrated because he walked four guys and hit a batter. He's like being super hard on himself as well. It is reasonable to assume that the strain on that man emotionally and physically might at some point make him human. Like it's a gamble.
Katie
I mean, also, the Astros had a
Tony
no hitter this week, and those don't happen so much anymore. I was surprised when I heard that. That no. No hitter. You know, for a few years, it's like, I don't care about this no hitter. There are no hitters every single week now.
Katie
Roy just did the thing though, the dismissive combined.
Greg Cody
Yeah, I don't. That's. To me, that's not a no hitter. If you don't pitch a complete game, you didn't pitch a no hitter in my opinion.
Katie
But the game ending with one team
Greg Cody
having zero hits, if it's split among more than one pitcher, it doesn't matter.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Now what do you call it? He's. He's asking you what do you call it? You're saying it's not team.
Greg Cody
No hitter. It's not an individual no hitter.
Tony
Toe hitter.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
So it's still a no hitter, though.
Greg Cody
Yeah. With an asterisk.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
No, it's. No, you didn't put an asterisk there.
Greg Cody
You just did. I put the ass in asterisk. You know, if you. If I don't know if it's a team no hitter, it's not an individual no hitter. A guy who pitches seven innings.
Tony
No one is saying it's an individual no hitter.
Greg Cody
The guy who pitched seven innings and got taken out of the game against his will. I guarantee you he's going to say, I just pitched a no hitter.
Katie
He'd say, we.
Tony
I don't think you're right about that.
Stugats
Let's call him.
Greg Cody
There we go.
Stugats
Yeah.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Perfect timing, good deflection.
Juju
I don't need to take a quiz.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
It's still a no hitter.
Greg Cody
No, it isn't.
Tony
Were there any hits?
Greg Cody
Were there any complete games?
Tony
Nobody is saying there were.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
That game was completed.
Greg Cody
Yeah. By myriad pitchers. That's the problem with baseball.
Katie
Lean back.
Greg Cody
That's the problem with baseball now.
Tony
Did you forget? You forgot there was a microphone.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Greg, you were leaning so far back. Like, explain. I just explained.
Greg Cody
People can hear me comically.
Tony
Like comically.
Greg Cody
You look at a box score. Now there's nine pitchers in a game if you're lucky.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
The Rays. Yes, the Rays go through pitchers.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
They do raisers. Yeah. They're just gonna keep throwing arms out there until they all blow out.
Katie
No, the chairs go that far back.
Tony
My wife is watching right now. In the future. Right now. She's appalled with everything you're doing.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Really? Does she hear me when I'm.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
No, but you guys have to get me the shot of healing geographically. He was about as far from the microphone as he could be while doing the show. For some reason not understanding they should be doing it from back here.
Tony
Usually he just leans back for like a second here he was having a
Katie
full on debate laying down.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
I think we should try that one day. Put him in the back of the room and just have him do the show back there. See if it feels any different as he just keeps floating out of our lives. The basketball, the last couple of nights. Okay.
Katie
And catchphrases later.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
We will get to them. We'll get to them. The basketball, the officiating. I really, really dislike where we've arrived, which is you really can't actually officiate the game perfectly. It's pretty impossible. And so the commissioner can say the officiating is great and we're all going to say that it stinks. And the conversation problem that this league has about its officiating, when I think everyone is too good now, whether it's James Harden or Shea or anybody who can get fouls, they've gamed the system so they can trick all the referees all the time. And we're saying he shouldn't flop like that. And we're saying the referees should be better. It's not possible. Everything out there is moving way too fast. And however we officiated things in the, in the past, it doesn't work anymore. It's not something that can work. And so I really did want to ask you, before we get into the basketball of it, if we're Already doing driverless cars and everything else and we're already headed down the very infant part of. You can do two challenges here. But as we perfect the technology on officiating better, can you guys foresee a day where this is all computerized? I'm not even kidding. Where the officiating is all something that is done with. However it is the technology advances because we can't allow human error this much anymore in games that people are gambling on. And the point differences matter and you can't be out there fooling the referees all the time with how you're playing basketball.
Tony
I think fans, I think there's an element of watching sport that fans like being able to either blame or yell at the officials. I think it's part of the game. Yes, I woke, I woke my. I'm having a great experience watching these NBA playoffs with my 14 year old son. He's really into it now and mainly because of Wembanyama. Like he transcends and he brings in a new audience and my son is now one of those. And so every night I'm watching these games. I woke my son up this morning to get ready for school and it's like, hey man, you think, you think the spurs can force a game seven tonight? And he also goes, as long as Tony Brothers isn't refereeing like, like, which is. I mean, come on, Tony, that's awesome. That's elite ball now.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
That's awesome. I love that.
Tony
Right?
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Does he know that it's got Foster the extender though?
Tony
He hasn't learned about Scott Foster, but last game, game five, he learned about Tony Brothers. All right, so he's very angry at Tony Brothers, does not want to. Last night my son was saying, is it. If the series gets to game seven, is it possible Tony Brothers is the referee for that game? Again, like he was asking, do the referees work every game? And I was like, no, no, no. It's a different referee than it could
Juju
be Tony Brothers in game seven.
Tony
Well, that's why I explained to him, I go, I go, maybe in Game 7, but he won't be the referee in Game 6. It's not going to be back to back game. So he's very concerned about that.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
I'm not marveling at the elite ball knowledge. I am troubled for America's youth when it comes to fandom that that's how you're waking up in the morning. That is not a conversation I was having.
Tony
Sports.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Tony, bro, he's a referee.
Greg Cody
I couldn't name a referee.
Stugats
I got a question. What happened to the flop rule? I thought there was a rule put in place this year. This is the signal. Flop it. Exactly. And Nick Wright, however, has improved on my rule. He says that flopping should be reviewable. You dig? And I think that's the next evolution, the next step because we can't keep rewarding you and we challenging this. And another thing about them challenges. I can't win two challenges and then I'm out. What are you talking about? Y' all was wrong. But we need to be able to review these plots.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
It is. It is one of the most ridiculous things happening.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
You were wrong twice.
Greg Cody
But that's it.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
That's right. That's it.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
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Tony
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Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
I know it well. It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.
Stugats
Y.
Tony
You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Walking like this.
Stugats
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tony
Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
It has that effect on people.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
It does.
Tony
You usually take the credit for it. But again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hootin and hollerin'. Keep it Cuervo.
Greg Cody
Keep it Cuervo, baby.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Dan Lebatard.
Greg Cody
It's all about me.
Stugats
Stugats.
Greg Cody
Whee.
Tony
This is the Dan Lebatard show with the stuff.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
So this is why I'm asking the question I'm asking. I want you to entertain the possibility. Hypothetically, though, right? We didn't envision 5 years ago cars moving around without drivers. Right. That wasn't something we were thinking was reasonable. And now it's proliferating like Ubers. Yes. That fair enough. But I didn't think we were at the future yet. How many years? We agree that it can't be officiated correctly by humans. Yes OR no?
Tony
Not 100%. No.
Stugats
This needs some help. Give them some help. Some. Some reviews.
Tony
Yeah.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
But each night there's going to be no officiating crew that hits 100% course.
Tony
Correct.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
So. Or. And most nights are going to be a lot of complaints on both sides about whatever. The officiating.
Tony
Correct.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
So if all of that is what you're entertaining at the starting point, can you give me a date where you can imagine. I mean, we got it in tennis. They overturn everything like that. Like, is there a date off in the future where we can get this stuff? So much better that this isn't the stupidity around the conversation as I'm trying to watch the world's most majestic athletes and some 7:3, dude. And I'm talking about Tony brothers, and I'm raising a generation that's talking about Tony Brothers.
Juju
I told this to the crew in the back and juju doesn't think it's happening anytime soon. And my timeline is 2100 little tiny nodes all over the body or in your jersey. And you can feel the amount of force that the defender is putting on the player to know whether they have flopped or whether that was a true push. 2100.
Katie
So the way that we have a sound meter for, like, let's make it loud in here and that thing moves. I can see how hard the foul
Stugats
was up on the board, but realistically, they just needed to get together, man.
Tony
We, we.
Stugats
I think we bailing them out by saying, damn, it's not possible. It is possible to improve the same way it was possible to improve on Josh Allen's first down. Spott. And whenever they got eliminated, no pun intended, but, bro, we see it's across the line and a referee is running this way and spotting it. And even their new improved rule is, oh, we got the eye in the sky going to go where the ball was. No, it's where they spotted the ball. So I think that we just need to hold these referees a little bit more accountable.
Greg Cody
Yeah, but why are we demanding perfection in our officiating? Right? Athletes strike out, they commit bad errors in every sport.
Tony
I agree.
Greg Cody
Human fallibility is accepted as a part of sports, but we don't tolerate it with officiating. I don't understand that. I think sports should do one or the other. You either go all in. Like, everything is abs, everything is reviewable, everything is electronic. You go all in or you go all in on the human side. You throw up a middle finger to AI and everything about it and you
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
say, I don't think I'm absurd when I say they're going to. There are too many dollars at risk. They're going to figure out how to fix this. You can't have the commissioner of the league line everybody saying, our officiating is fantastic when it's obviously not. When so many of the conversations after all of these really important games are, well, Tony Brothers, you say juju when you're out here saying we got to hold the referees more accountable. You want them more accountable than a generation of kids are waking up complaining about them.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Stugats
When. Whenever you make this call, make more reviews, allow more reviews. You can't say, I was. I was wrong twice. That's all you get to correct me. No, you was wrong seven times, Tony Brothers. And we going to review it, bro.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
I think the difference between contact sports and non contact sports is where it's easily, you know, you could see it in tennis. It's not two people colliding, trying to figure out where the ball is. The ball's out there. We have a camera there. We can see that, right, Abs? The ball's getting put in a certain spot. We can see that. Well, we can't see him review every single play. Is all right, I gave you a little bit of a push here. Wasn't a foul, but the second time I gave you a push, they did call a foul. Right. I think the idea is we all talk about, we grew up with. Playoff basketball is tough. You're going to put a shiv into somebody's neck. Like you're going to do the things that you're going to need to do. Bill Lampier. Throwing a clothesline to somebody. Like that's what playoff basketball was. And now it's not that. So you can't tell me that we're. Look what we're looking at with sga with Wemby, who again flies into the stands every third play. All of that stuff needs to be curtailed by not calling the fouls. Don't tell the guys, hey, that's it. We're going to call it clean, we're going to call it even, but we're not going to call a ton of fouls.
Tony
I saw this clip yesterday circulating around on social media, and it was back in. I think it must have been the Western Conference finals. It was in the playoffs where the only time that Kobe Bryant and Carmelo Anthony played against each other was the Lakers and Nuggets and. And they're guarding each other. And the clip is them battling each other in the post. Just super physical battling for the ball. And it was like, yeah, they're battling for the basketball. They're not battling for who can draw the foul. And it was like, you'll never, ever, ever get basketball like that again.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Well, but when we talk about the majesty of wembanyama, I do ask you guys to consider this as we're deciding the championship of this sport. Think of the structural integrity flaw in the idea that your system is such that everyone's looking at where are the advantages? Where are the advantages? Where are the advantages? Here's an advantage. Let's get San Antonio to burn two of its challenges cuz it's must because they're trying to keep Wembanyama out of foul trouble because he's so important. And when he burns those challenges in the first quarter, we might win the game late because they can't challenge anything. Even though we got it wrong twice because we got fooled by flopping people around Wembanyama. Think about what he's being asked to do and how physically he's being asked to do it. And as he shrinks inside of that or rises above it to win the championship, he's working against the entire system. You're asking them to play a physical competitive sport, not emotionally, when guys are clearly fouling him and Tony Brothers is the ref. You know what I mean? Like the idea of this flaw in the center of what it is that we're talking about that decides the championship. It's really hard to play the game when Benyama is being asked to play right now the way he's being asked to play it.
Juju
Well, the thing that I think is really interesting is if you look at David Sampson in his text message efficiency, you're seeing that in sports as well, where it's all about how can we maximize analytically the best way to get to a win so the physicality becomes less important. Getting fouls drawn becomes more important. We don't care about mid range shots because really three is mathematically more efficient for us to win games than two. So you're seeing this like I call it the Baraka vacation of like the Mortal Kombat where you do the leg sweep, uppercut, leg sweep, uppercut. It's not fun anymore, but it's the most efficient way to win.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Okay, but what are we talking about aesthetically here in our most beautiful sport? It's ballet in the sky. Like seriously, when Benyama is a freak, unseen to human beings, look at what's being asked of him and how he's cut out at the knees almost literally by Lou Dort back muscles on top of back muscles. I'm asking you guys to examine what he has to overcome here with the structural flaw of we're tricking the refs and they're not very good. And the refs can be biased. Even if they're not very good, they can still be biased. And also many people think, think that the ref is going to advance this series because it's good for business, etc. Etc. Etc. Or tilt. These small advantages. There's an enormous amount of pressure on Wembanyama right now at the middle of this because he's being asked to play a basketball game really, that no one before him has been asked to play. No one. The game that Wembanyama plays tonight is played in. In a. In a time of officiating that I think has less credibility than it's ever had. Do I have this wrong?
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
I don't know, Dan. Like, the Jordan rules. Like they were killing Jordan, right? Like, that's before he had won anything, before he had even big become Michael Jordan. Like, they were throwing him on the ground, they were elbowing him. They were killing him anytime he got into the lane. Like, Wemby's not getting that.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
That's not the part I'm talking about, Tony. That's not the part I'm talking about. He's got to stay out of foul trouble. He is too important. And if he has to play that game, then he ceases to be able to play the game he was playing in game one. Like, he has to stay out of foul trouble or they lose.
Tony
He's got to stay on the floor. They're actually like. It's. It's like Jokic stuff where. Like, that kind of bad when Jokic was not on the floor and the Nuggets are bad. That's what the.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Whatever you're asking of Jordan defensively, hey, go guard that guy over there who's not going to be doing anything. You can stay out of foul trouble. No, Wemby is the centerpiece of everything that happens in the paint has to be stopped by him. Don't get in foul trouble.
Stugats
And that's a testament to the youth of this team, them being early right now. Because in most cases, you can put Luke Cornett, Kelly Olenek, Bisback, Mason Plumlee. Let's share some of these minutes. Share some of these elbows in this paint. And the fact that they have to rely on Wimby to be the only big guy on the court at one time. That's where they're going to get better next year.
Greg Cody
But. But Wimby is in control of whether or not Wimby gets in foul trouble, right? I mean, we're not.
Juju
No, I mean, you see what they're doing. The refs are control. You got SGA who flops relentlessly, so much so that they made a game out of it. And then his lawyers came and issued a cease and Desist. It's egregious.
Greg Cody
Okay, but still you, you have to admit that a player has some say over whether or not he gets in final trouble, right? I mean, Wemby can play a cautious game and still play his game, right? He just has no.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
I would, I would say no. He cannot play a tired game or a cautious game and still be the guy that you saw in game one. The answer is absolutely not. Guys, look at what he's being asked to do, please. I know that's a good young team, but. But I gave you the plus minus minutes. When the champs don't have Wemby on the floor before the last game, they were plus 46. When they did have Wemby on the floor, they were minus 50. Like, it's not. He was minus eight in the last game and it was terrible because he's tired and they're being physical with him and he has to, Must stay out of foul trouble. I don't, I don't think people realize the mental toll asked of these people at the very height of sport, even if they don't seem like human beings. The entire franchise rests on an emotional guy who tonight has go dethrone the champions to save their season. And everything's against him except the fact that he's bigger than everyone else and he's seven three, like. And he. And he plays basketball unlike anyone who's ever been seen.
Tony
You see what's going on here, Dan with sga. So there's. I think it's a, I think it's a pick site. Underdog. And they, they put together this game which, which Dylan Brooks was endorsing.
Katie
This is a real game.
Tony
It's a real game.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
I thought she was joking about a board game.
Tony
No, it's a real game. And it's like the game operation, you know, where you're a doctor and you're trying to do the surgery, but instead it's called unethical hoops.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Oh, that's great.
Tony
And you know, if you touch Shake Yoda's Alexander, all the, you know, you
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
get buzzed, it electrocutes you. Like the game Operation.
Tony
What a great game. Operation was a great game.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Hall of Famer raised the mark.
Stugats
Flopperation was right there.
Tony
So, oh, so good. Unethical hoops. All right, and that's funny, right? And Underdog Sports has received a cease and desist letter from Shea Gilchris Alexander's attorneys. All right, this was this, this was acquired by the Athletic and New York Times. And so I'll read to you here Quote in a letter dated May 22, 2026. So that's almost a week ago. Obtained by the athletic Eric Fishman of law firm Aaron Fox Schiff LLP representing Gildas Alexander, asked Underdog to quote, permanently cease and desist from any and all use of Mr. Gilgis Alexander's nil in any and all media, including but not limited to your website, apps, social media accounts, digital marketing, advertising, promotional emails, push notifications, affiliate or influencer placements and any physical goods, including but not limited to the board game advertised on unethical hoops website.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
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Tony
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Tony
Limited time offer Don LeBatard.
Greg Cody
He has been great. He's made great hires.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
I said all we've said.
Dan LeBatard
He said all that.
Tony
Everyone has heard any of this.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Greg, everything you're saying, it's all been said, okay?
Greg Cody
You gotta understand one thing. Stugats me maximum. That's right. I say it, it hasn't been said. Okay? Understand that until I say it.
Stugats
Is the dan levatar show with the st. GS.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Look, I don't want to be that guy, but I'm defending SGA on that. What, you're going to take my my nil and then sell it and then me not get a cut of that?
Katie
You're crazy.
Stugats
You got to go player 99 like MJ back in the days. Player 2 from the blue team, like John Dow.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
This is funny for a couple of reasons, not the least of which unethical hoops is hysterically funny as a game, but it's not as good as floperation. Like floperation. Floperation was right there. And Operation is absolutely a game. Hall of Famer, right? First. Why did someone come up with flopperation first ballot. That is true. Floperation is so much better than unethical hoops. Unethical hoops is the flopperation for dumb people. You need it. You need it spelled out for you in a way that's aggressive.
Dan LeBatard
Operation was inducted into the national tour hall of fame in 2014.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Tony
If you were at a friend's house as a kid and they had Operation like, yo, let's play Operation.
Katie
It was no Clue.
Greg Cody
Clue.
Dan LeBatard
Clue.
Katie
I'm not trying to get my hand buzzed.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
No.
Tony
But Clue that there's. There's too much thinking going on if you're a little kid.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Operation.
Katie
I would always just guess. Guess, like, halfway through the game. Once I had, like, an idea on one of them. I'm just guessing. I gotta be. I gotta be first. Even if I'm wrong and I lose, I'd rather go out that way than just sitting back and waiting for all the three clues. I got two clues. I know it's like. It's either. It's either the wrench or the knife. I know I'm down to those. I'm just gonna guess. I know it's these two, and I'm gonna guess the knife. And If I'm wrong, 50. 50.
Stugats
Would you go clue or that one game where you turn up the faces and you'd be like, oh, does he have.
Tony
That's in the hall of fame, too, Roy. Guess who?
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
No.
Tony
What do you mean, no?
Dan LeBatard
I'll find guess who in a second. The Clue went in. Three years later, 2017.
Greg Cody
All right, who won?
Juju
If there was a quote, a mystery quote, and it was like, there's too much thinking. Who on the LeBatard show said, there's too much thinking in this game, That's a good. I would have immediately said, zaz, I
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
don't care about racism. That would also. That's a great board game. We should create this board game. I don't know what the name Guess who said it, but I got to go back for a second, though, because I don't think flu is in the stratosphere of Operation. But maybe I have this wrong. It was more innovative to me. The idea that a child's toy largely would electrocute kids couldn't believe it was popular. Fairly amazing. Better times as a toy. Oh, what are we going to do? We're going to mimic the country's obsession with surgery shows 40 years from now by teaching the kids right now. Here's how you're going to get electrocuted if you don't do this correctly. It's an aggressive game, Trained a lot of young doctors. It's bloody. And again, the price for being wrong is, hey, kid, you're electrocuted.
Tony
He had that little tool. It's attached to the game.
Dan LeBatard
Guess who's not in the hall of fame.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Should not be. Should not be. And so put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Better game, clue or operation. And also put it on the poll. Should guess who be a hall of famer? We've done this. There is a hall of fame. We had the director of the hall of fame on. And I think the stick is also a hall of famer because that's the original toy. It should not be. No, it should not.
Greg Cody
Yeah, it should be.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
No.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Greg Cody
You can do so many things with a stick. Dogs love sticks. You can throw a stick. Doesn't that mean it's a fire with a stick?
Katie
Keep going. Let's let them work this out. What else can you do with this stick?
Greg Cody
I mean, but these are serious things. The caveman started a fire with sticks. Right? Civilization did not exist without the stick.
Juju
All I can think of is Zaz and his wife laying in bed right at this part of the show.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
He has just crushed it today. I mean, hit.
Katie
He saved us.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Oh, my God. The catchphrases have been killers. He has never. He has never been more incisive in small windows than just being the very good parrot who hears a word and then just instantly remembers inside his narcissism, a catchphrase that goes with it. It's the quickest I've seen him be in about 16 years.
Greg Cody
Yeah. You throw a trailer at me, you know what you're gonna get. Come on.
Dan LeBatard
The stick was inducted into the hall of fame in 2008.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Just wrong. Just wrong.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Wow.
Greg Cody
Was that a charter inductee? Like, when did that start?
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Put it on the poll at Lebiton show. Is the stick overrated? And also put it on the pole at Lebatard show. Should the stick be in the toy hall of fame? No one is voting yes to that.
Katie
It probably got the, like, lifetime achievement thing where it doesn't actually get voted. You know, as long as they put, like, a legend in that actually didn't get voted in. That's the stick.
Greg Cody
Okay. No stick's got to be there. The stick begins. The toy thing. Without a stick, there's no Monopoly. Wouldn't exist without the stick. Because it's a domino effect. One stick leads to the other.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
The fart began. Comedy. You put that in the hall of fame?
Greg Cody
Yeah, I think so.
Tony
I'll bet the whoopee cushions in.
Greg Cody
Yes. Yep, the whoopee cushion.
Tony
Whoopee cushion's funny as hell, Dan.
Greg Cody
Damn right it is.
Katie
What came first, the stick or the rock?
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Rock as a toy. The rock I bet you is not in the toy hall of Fame.
Katie
Dwayne Johnson, you ever play with rocks?
Greg Cody
We used to have rock fights.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Those are fights. Those are not playing. Those are fights.
Greg Cody
No, but it was good natured that
Katie
you and Paul Radke stratomatic little rock fight.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
No, it was playfully. The way the 72 dolphins called Manny Fernandez taco.
Juju
It was playful, lovingly. What did you say?
Katie
He was loving you and Racky didn't rock fight for the audience that doesn't know Ratke's my dad's older friend that
Greg Cody
plays a 25 year old man throwing rocks at me when I'm 14. What are you talking about?
Katie
My dad was 14. Playing board games with a 25 year old man.
Greg Cody
What's wrong with that?
Juju
To Catch a Predator is hot right now.
Katie
Speaking of prime time, minor penalty, two
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
minutes for explaining the show. You're gonna have to leave for explaining in a very tight window who Paul Radke is. Either you know or you don't know. I don't need a short explanation that that's the friend that Greg Cody had who was 12 years older than him that would come, come over to play.
Greg Cody
What's wrong with that?
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Your parents would be like, yeah, he's in the room. You can go in there.
Stugats
In fairness, I did think Greg was talking about rat co Gudis for some reason. And I was like, damn, Greg, that's tough.
Greg Cody
That would have been fun. Have my own enforcer.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
The thing that Paul Radke.
Greg Cody
Damn right. He passed away. By the way, Rest in power. We just got that intel. Can I tell you another layer of my life, Rest in Power disappears.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
The mention of To Catch a Predator. I will tell you that when I discovered this television show hosted by Chris Hansen, it was hypnotizing. It was addictive. I'd never seen anything like is making a giant comeback. There is a documentary on Paramount that is excellent and it will make you rethink perhaps how it is that you felt about Chris Hansen journalism, that show in general, especially if you pair it against what a lot of influencers are doing now to try and curb pedophilia in this country, which is get the clicks off. Shaming them or luring them out on the Internet and then doing many Chris Hansen's in the streets to predators that they are beating up or shaming.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Yes, Tony, are we anti that or. I'm trying to figure out your angle here because you're saying like there's stuff about Chris Hansen you didn't know. It's like I'm pretty good with catching predators.
Tony
I feel like he was the good guy.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Yeah. Like I feel like that's good.
Tony
He's the protagonist.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
It'll just make you think is all I'm telling you about what the best documentaries do is that we're not making that many great ones anymore. And this will make you rethink some of the things that you may have been feeling and doing about what was happening around that show. Of course. Tony, I am not pro pedophilia.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Sure.
Juju
I want to thank you for the awful announce.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
I want to get you on your point. Make sure you say that.
Katie
What did I miss?
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Thank you for the support.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
He's trying to help you, big guy.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Tony. But To Catch a Predator is now making a comeback and I do not know, not just with this documentary. That is very well done and I urge you to watch, especially if you were a fan of the show To Catch a Predator, as I was. Chris Hansen was a guest on our show many times. Chris Hansen became an incredible celebrity because he did this one lane almost the entirety of his career after that as well because it's lucrative to shame pedophiles. And so now though, there's going to be a dramatic rendering of that movie. And the clip went viral yesterday. We can't play the trailer, but we would like.
Tony
So they're. They're making a docudrama which is produced by the Studio 824, which is really doing such great movies. And, and it's called Primetime and it's about Chris, you know that like five year period where Chris Hansen and Dateline were doing To Catch a Predator. And Robert Pattinson, you know, from Twilight, more recently Batman, this is some kind of actor, this Robert Pattinson. All right. And he's playing Chris Hansen. Now granted, like you said, we can't play the trailer here, but the trailer came out yesterday. Viral, like all over the place. Yet the trailer looks awesome and he sounds exactly like Chris Hansen. It's Kind of creepy. Come on in.
Katie
Sit down. That's Mike. Chris Hansen.
Tony
Yeah, well, he does that in the trailer. Sit it. Take a seat.
Juju
And this whole time, me and juju both. Well, I'll speak for myself.
Stugats
Snitch of the year, ladies and gentlemen.
Juju
Let me speak for myself.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
She keeps doing this when she speaks for juju and then says, I don't want to speak for juju.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Juju, they caught us.
Greg Cody
Let's go.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Get out from under there. Juju, get out from under the car. Juju, we're here.
Stugats
Let's go.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
They got us.
Juju
I speak for myself.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
That's usually what you're doing. I thought you usually. You don't have to preface it. Put any like. We will assume that every single time you're speaking, you're speaking only for yourself. You don't have to keep telling us that you won't speak for juju while speaking for juju. That is unnecessary.
Tony
What if everyone in here speaks for someone else for, like, 10 minutes?
Stugats
You know what? I like it. I'm back in.
Juju
I kept thinking Scott Hansen, like, the red zone guy.
Tony
Versatile.
Juju
And I was like, wow, he's got range.
Katie
Seven straight hours of pedophiles.
Tony
No breaks.
Juju
Can we join? You live in Buffalo.
Stugats
You want to go to Buffalo?
Katie
Right there for you.
Greg Cody
Nice.
Katie
Nice.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
He said trailers three times there. You had every option, but you were just happy with the one. Now we expect it every time. Regardless. List, it's time to get caught up on Greg Cody's catchphrases. You can find them all updated. We're in the top 20 now. Although he's still extending the list. He added another one today, so it might be 10 more after this. But let's see where we are. Where are we on the list? 20. Are we at 20?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Greg Cody
We revealed on my podcast this week, we revealed number 20 and number 19.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
All right, so we will get to those at the end of this. Greg Cody is going to finish up this hour with a big bang. Very popular segment. A joke that's been working for months now. Here it is. Greg Cody's catchphrases. We begin with number 60.
Greg Cody
Number 60. I'm fuller than Vern Fuller. 59. Where's my click click? 58. Hey, Butterfinger. 57. Punt. 56. Scranton 55. I'm busy in one arm. Paper hanger. 54. George up. Georgia 53. I'm the kind of guy that. 52. Ball on the jack. 51. Hey, hey, with the monkeys, baby. 50. Thank you. Billy, 49. I love him like a pet. 48. Who made it a salad? 47. We're rolling now, huh? 46. You brain beating me? 45. Let's go, States. 44. Driver comfort is paramount. 43. Dummy up, save up. 42 catches. Catch. Can. 41. Doesn't make it right. 40. So on and so forth. 39.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Very good.
Greg Cody
38. The Little League Theory. 37. Nice hat, asshole. 36. The others, they all learn from me. 35. Don't go showering to try to please me. 34. Look at that jerk. 33. It's like a packing house in here. 32. What'd you learn? 31. Hee Haw. 3. Badam. 30. I'm not gonna take a quiz. 29. Sassafras. 28. Would we break a window? 27. Hello. 26. Who won? 25. Trailers for sale or rent. 24. You gotta eat a peck of dirt before you die. 23. Three words. We are the Lobos. 22. You're gonna go to Buffalo with Bernie Parmalee. 21. Rappy Cac.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
All right, hold on. Catch your breath here. And please don't put this in the zaz bedroom. It'll get steamy. Okay, I'm telling you right now, be careful with what you do with that footage, because that's him at the top of his game. That is difficult to do. He crushed it, but he's out of breath and he was going way too fast. There's a lot of pressure on that. But they're all his catchphrases. He loves them because he's a narcissist. Okay, number 20, this is the newest one. Are you okay? You got your breath. I don't want you to deliver this breath back. So just for the record, the list is going to extend from here because you added another one before the. What? We were talking during the show.
Greg Cody
Right? We're going to bring that up at the next executive meeting. We don't know yet. Right now it's still a top 60 number.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
20.
Greg Cody
Another crisis solved.
Katie
It's a classic. It's a classic. He famously did it at the most recent pfpi. He ruined our. At the PFPI gala. He ruined the TV right before a big moment.
Dan LeBatard
No.
Katie
And then the TV got fixed and he just. He did nothing to do it. Another crisis.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
We played that. We played that video on the show.
Greg Cody
I think that was a Super Bowl.
Katie
It may have been. Thank you for calling that out.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
It was. I do want to make a correction. And, Tony, thank you for trying to aid me. Okay? The movie's not going to change your mind about pedophilia.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Thank you again.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
But you may learn decoy actors were traumatized in a way that impacted them for life in a. In a part of that show that you might not have considered.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
That's a better way to phrase it, because the way you were saying is, like, I don't know about this. Like, were they doing the right thing? Like, no, we're doing the right thing. We still need to be doing that
Tony
again, just to confirm the pedophiles. Antagonists.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Chris Hansen.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Guest or co-host (possibly Tony or another commentator)
Protagonist.
Katie
Glad you sandwiched that in. Number 19.
Greg Cody
Number 19. Nice chatting with you. Wow. All right.
Stugats
There we go. There we go.
Dan LeBatard
Yep.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Holy
Tony
wow.
Katie
How he says. It's how he ends every conversation.
Host (possibly Dan LeBatard or main commentator)
Yes.
Greg Cody
Nice chatting with you.
Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew engage in their trademark blend of sports analysis, pop culture banter, and comedic riffs. This hour centers around the emotional agony of Canadian hockey fans after another crushing playoff defeat, heated debates about modern NBA officiating, and, as a highlight, Greg Cote's much-anticipated countdown of his personal catchphrases—now reaching the top 20. The segment is an example of the show's freewheeling, self-referential humor, eventually giving way to conversations about classic board games and the evolving world of sports entertainment and media.
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