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Stugats
Did you guys find it interesting at all last night? This is unusual that Wemby was being celebrated as a story of redemption. So weird and the amazing return on the story arc of a guy who did something profoundly dirty during an NBA playoff game and probably wouldn't have been playing last night if he had done that and been just just about anybody else in the world. We're already starting a story that we're going to get really tired of 5 years from now if you allow the 7 foot 3 guy to derail OKC and swing his elbows and be the positive story because he's French and a little different. Like that was super weird last night to see him celebrated as a conquering hero because he's got 16 points in the first six minutes because he's bigger than everyone else and he's growing both physically and as a player and this is going to destroy the league soon. You could have knocked him out for a game and at least treated the return as if it was controversial, not wow, this is heroic. The guy who's taller than everyone else is going to be better than everyone else.
Tony
If you didn't know the full context of what took place and you just turned on the game in the first quarter last night, you would have thought this was a conquering hero returning to the floor. I thought the way the broadcast treated last night was so strange. Was that as if he was the one who was done wrong and and now he's back and this is such an incredible story, this performance he's putting together when the fact of the matter is he did something unbelievably dirty and probably cost his team Game four.
Dan Le Batard
But this is the Wemby propaganda that I've been railing against. Everything that he does is perfect. Everything he does is better than everybody else.
Tony
He was really good in that first quarter.
Dan Le Batard
He was great. Okay, he was great in the first quarter. He had 16 to 18 points. That's not the point. The point is they were cheering him. Like if he had just come back for, like, Ricky Pierce. I got shot and came back.
Tony
It's true. It's true.
Greg Cody
A heroic return by Wemby. And I'm surprised the narrative part of the narrative wasn't. Thank God he didn't hurt his elbow on that guy's jaw. You know, it was over the top, but expected.
Stugats
All right, you say expected, but I wanted to take this a step further with these conversations. I told you guys the other day, they showed Adam Silver on the screen on one of these streaming services and they started talking immediately about what a fantastic job he's done. Jeff Van Gundy is no longer on the broadcast, at least in part because he doesn't speak glowingly enough about the league. You can rest assured that the streamers are gonna speak well of the product they've just gotten into bed with. So I ask you, do you care if this is compromised? I'm not saying it was last night, but if you're into storytelling, I'd like the whole story. I've said this before. I don't want just the pieces of it that are sanitized and packaged for me. And you have to make sure these are partners. ESPN ended up in a whole lot of uncomfortable positions with leagues as partners cuz they were aspiring to journalism. These other entities are not. These other entities don't care about and you don't have to care about that. And the public at large has shown they don't care about that. So I'll ask you again. When Wemby gets framed as something that is framed exactly the league, the way the league wants it framed, are you suspicious? Do you wonder at all if everything is bought and what's getting diluted? There is a version of the truth, because that was asinine last night. That's one of the dirtiest plays in the history of the playoffs. And he's returning to the league like, we really need you now, big guy. Somebody's got to knock off this boring, droning thing in okc. You here for something new? We'll change the MVP just to make it something new. We'll give out awards that are diluted Just because we want something new, Are you guys good? If I tell you I'm not accusing the league of this. I don't think there are any meanings on this. I do know that these corporate partnerships compromise the partners. Like that is something that you have to be willing to navigate. And ESPN didn't have to get into the journalism business and did, and the leagues didn't like it. The number of times, Greg, that they'd get a call from Manfred about me, from LeBron about me, that where ESPN is getting the call. And there has to be someone there to protect you. When the partnerships are involved and the partnership is the overarching thing, there has to be somebody there to protect the voices that are willing to be honest. But if the public doesn't want it, if the streamers don't want it, if the league doesn't want it, you get what you get last night, which is these playoffs have been bad. The games are not close. Nothing has been good. That's a star. We can't suspend him. Rules are different for him. And also, let's keep this story going exactly the way it goes, even though that's one of the dirtiest plays in postseason history.
Greg Cody
Yeah, it is. And that's why he got ejected. I mean, there is debate on how grievous that was, considering it didn't cause grievous injury. I don't think it was a grievous foul.
Stugats
But if it had, if Nasrid had fallen down unconscious for the same action,
Greg Cody
then you would think that we discussed that yesterday. That's exactly right.
Stugats
But I'm saying it's not the action that you're criticizing. It's that he got lucky with the result. Because it was dirty enough to knock a man out. Yes or no? Yes or no. It was dirty enough to knock a man out.
Dan Le Batard
Maybe.
Greg Cody
I don't. I can't answer in the right place. Absolutely.
Stugats
I mean, that guy with just the way that the body. You've seen him stretch during yoga. Right. And you've seen how kickers and pitchers, their strength comes from their legs. That guy swimming, swinging, the slingshot of his elbow when it's coming from his feet. Yes. That can knock anybody out.
Tony
If he got him between the eyes, he'd have been dead. You know, that's what happens when you hit someone between the eyes. You always have to be careful when you're in a fight because you don't want to hit someone between the eyes. If you hit him right between the eyes, they could die, and that's murder. Greg could have hit him between the eyes. He would have killed.
Stugats
Is that. I don't. I've never heard that before.
Tony
All between the eyes. Everybody know that's how they did Goliath. Everybody. That's. That's exactly what David was shooting with that little slingshot. And the rock. That's how he got him. If the rock hits him, like in the chest, you think Goliath is going down?
Greg Cody
Absolutely.
Tony
Not a chance. He. In between the eyes. Dead.
Stugats
I thought that was biblical hyperbole. No, no, that was biblical truth.
Dan Le Batard
Actual. Thank you. Actuality.
Stugats
Put it on the poll at Le Batar show. Did you know that if you hit someone square between the eyes, you could kill them?
Tony
That's murder.
Stugats
I. I did not know. I'm learning that now. That's not something I have heard before.
Dan Le Batard
You ever been hit between the eyes?
Stugats
I guess not.
Tony
Clearly not, Tony.
Greg Cody
I don't believe that. I'd rather be hit between the eyes than in the eye. Don't poke me in the eye. If you want to start a fight, poke me.
Stugats
You didn't know this?
Chris Cody
Correct.
Stugats
He's claiming something as a fact. Roy, do you have any. Do you have any information on this? He's claiming something as a fact that I don't know to be a fact. And I've got to tell everybody in the audience, okay? This is the most confused I've ever been in terms of what are facts and what are not facts. One out of four Americans in recent polling think these assassination attempts are on the President of the United States, are made up AI and general social Internet rot is making it so that it is very hard to discern what is true and what is not true. What is fact here. Well, he's right about David hitting Goliath. That's not the part I'm asking about. No, that's biblical. That was written down.
Tony
Called precedent, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
It was hyperbole. It was actual. It happened.
Greg Cody
Okay, here's the reality. Slingshots are not real accurate, okay? Particularly if you're from any distance at all. I used to be a slingshot user as a kid. Slingshots actually were pretty popular in the 60s with Ute and. And I used to do the slingshot thing. You. They're not real accurate. It's. It's like. I would liken it to dart throwing, okay? You get a bullseye every once in a while, but you can sling 10 shots without.
Dan Le Batard
Greg, you're talking about the Y that has the little pullback string on it?
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Tony
Oh, it's one of these Was like.
Dan Le Batard
No, it was one of those. David had one where he went over his shoulder.
Stugats
And those who invent the second one, the first one wasn't invented yet. David was using the more primitive old school Dan.
Dan Le Batard
He killed lions and bears in the pasture. Did you know that?
Stugats
What was it? Just a rock at the end of something? Like a cloth?
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Greg Cody
Less reliable than us.
Dan Le Batard
He was a sniper with it.
Greg Cody
Well, Roy, that doesn't happen to Dave. That doesn't answer your question. I apologize.
Stugats
I need the information of whether or not Zaslo has it correct when he says that everyone knows that if you hit someone square between the eyes, you can kill them. And he's advising fighters. Even if you have a chance to win a fight, don't win the fight that way because then you're going to end up with attempted murder. I don't know if any of what he's saying there is true.
Greg Cody
Whatever happened to Dave, he gets a lot of credit for slaying Goliath, but what did he go on to do with his.
Dan Le Batard
Became King of Israel, God's most favorite son. Wrote the Psalms, did a lot of stuff. Again, if you open the Bible, you'd read it.
Tony
You'd understand that we had some success.
Greg Cody
Yeah, the whole thing with Bathsheba.
Dan Le Batard
Bathsheba was a mark. Yeah. But God redeemed himself.
Greg Cody
It's been a minute since I've read the Bible.
Stugats
Isn't there a giant movie called David that is either just coming out or has come out?
Dan Le Batard
Excellent show on Amazon. That is through the life of David, King Saul and everything. Very, very well done.
Greg Cody
I stand corrected. I didn't give Dave enough credit.
Stugats
It's an odd way to flout your ignorance, though, to go after a figure in the. Knowing nothing and saying, what did he ever do afterwards?
Dan Le Batard
One of the most important figures of
Stugats
the Bible with no. With no facts whatsoever behind and. And also correctly underestimating the group enough to assume that no one's going to know anything or call you on it.
Greg Cody
I didn't know we had biblical scholars in the building.
Stugats
I don't think that takes a biblical scholar. David is the greatest underdog in league history. That right there would be JJ Berea knocking off Wembanyama. I wanna get back to the story because the giant guy never gets to be beloved. I've told you guys before that Shaquille o' Neal famously would do magazine covers. When he was doing magazine covers, they would do poorly, even though people thought he was popular. Because nobody roots for Goliath. Everybody's rooting For David Wembanyama is clearly Goliath. Paul Pierce is saying already that's the best basketball player there's ever been. Paul Pierce is already saying that he does all of the little things. That's the best player we've ever seen play basketball because he can do everything. And it's unfair. It's legitimately unfair how big he is. And generally speaking, people don't root for that. The reason the guys in the NBA who are talked about as the best ever are never Kareem Abdul Jabbar. It's always the wing guys. And it's because we enjoy the humanity of it. It seems more normal. It's still not normal. I've told you guys the story. Sitting courtside, courtside with Valerie and she's watching, she's watching and she's like, who's the little guy out there? The little quick guy? How tall is he? And I'm like, that's Tyler Hero. He's taller than I am. And she's courtside and she can't tell how big he is because these people are giant human beings. Kobe, Michael Jordan, these people were immortal because it seemed like they could be bigger and better than height. That height didn't matter. But Wembanyama is now here to save the league. He's here to save the league from okc. He's here to save the league from all of our beloved popular guys are now old. And yesterday he gets celebrated exactly the way the league would want, the spurs would want, as if nothing happened in the last game.
Chris Cody
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Stugats
Uh huh.
Chris Cody
Those beautiful white cans or on draft or the bottle if you prefer.
Stugats
Oh, when you open that with the can though, and you.
Chris Cody
One of the best sounds on the planet. You pair that with the right game, you take that first sip, we both look around, it's not a bit.
Stugats
I have goosebumps thinking about the first sip.
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Chris Cody
Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?
Greg Cody
I know it well.
Dan Le Batard
It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.
Chris Cody
Yeah. You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.
Greg Cody
Walking like this.
Chris Cody
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.
Dan Le Batard
It has that effect on people.
Chris Cody
It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hootin and hollerin'. Keep it Cuervo.
Greg Cody
Keep it cuervo, baby.
Stugats
Don LeBatard. This is the quickest it goes. Hey, this is the quickest it goes. Stugats, everybody. This is the quickest it goes. Yeah. This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.
Tony
Yes, Dan. As expected, a severe hit between the eyes can cause death. A significant impact to this area can result in catastrophic trauma, including skull fractures, brain damage, a ruptured globe that leads to fatal complications. The proximity of the eyes to the brain makes this area highly vulnerable to Particularly with penetrating trauma or intense blunt force.
Stugats
Greg, why are you laughing?
Greg Cody
Who refers to it as a globe? What are you referring to as a globe?
Tony
I'm not referring to anything. I'm reading something that doctors put down.
Greg Cody
What's a globe? Is that another word for skull? Call it a skull.
Stugats
That's what you're laughing at?
Greg Cody
Yeah. Why are you calling it a globe? A snow globe? I mean, what's a globe? Is never referred to the head. I'm diverting attention from myself because I'm on the wrong end of the shot. Between the eyes.
Stugats
Not comfortable with how much the video team is enjoying using AI. I'm not comfortable in general.
Dan Le Batard
That's good, though.
Greg Cody
You gotta admit, that's good ethically.
Stugats
How much AI is distorting things? I don't feel like I'm good with our general lack of ethics and overall laziness in using AI, which is coming to destroy the world as a toy.
Dan Le Batard
What's the right ethics to use AI then?
Stugats
Well, to get things right.
Chris Cody
We do.
Stugats
No. Well, no, I does not get things right. What has been happening lately? Look, I don't mean to sermonize, okay? But the amount of misinformation out there that is making everyone in the world be confused about what's true and what's not true is only going to get worse. And there is a breathtaking amount of look this up and get the wrong information like it's not. The search engines have been contaminated and everything. You're looking up to find out what's fact and what's not fact. Fact is harder to find what's true than it was five years ago. This feels purposeful and it feels dangerous. And I know we like our toys here, but there's a lack of ethics involved in. We're gonna all regret this. And I don't know how many years.
Tony
Dan, I think the confusing part, though, is if you're dealing with a Cyclops and you hit the cyclops between the eyes, that area between the eyes of the cyclops is actually their eye. So can it cause death by hitting someone between the eyes that is actually their eyes? You gotta be careful. You might actually have an out if you're dealing with a cyclops.
Stugats
Greg, I don't think a cyclops is real or has ever been real. Is the cyclops not a fictional creature? A cyclops has never been a real thing.
Tony
They're extinct.
Stugats
I don't think. I don't think it was ever a real thing.
Greg Cody
I think it was.
Stugats
Was. So the cyclops was a human being? With was a one eyed human being. One eyed what? A one eyed what? What kind of animal was a Cyclops?
Greg Cody
One eyed people? Purple eater. Purple people eater. Oh, you almost had it. I know.
Dan Le Batard
Damn it, he's fading.
Greg Cody
Wasn't. Wasn't Goliath a cyclops?
Dan Le Batard
He was a Nephilim. Different story.
Stugats
We've been doing this show for. For 80 minutes. He's got a stamina issue. Let's do a movie to see if we could confound him. All right, here's our next movie line.
Greg Cody
The first rule of Fight Club is
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Greg Cody
Okay. I mean, this is too obvious. I think there was a movie called Fight Club.
Stugats
Did you play the one that was obvious even though I told you that's actually one of the more difficulties?
Greg Cody
My. My answer is Fight Club.
Stugats
You don't have easier than that. How can you have easier than that? All he's going to do is listen to the clip.
Tony
There is one easier.
Stugats
There's two.
Tony
There is another one.
Stugats
You want that one now? How can that not be the easiest?
Tony
It's not the easiest.
Stugats
I'm telling you with the.
Greg Cody
Greg.
Stugats
Greg, Cody doesn't know movies. That has worked many a time where we put the title in the question three times. He doesn't get it. Three times. You put the movie in the title three times. Because he would have missed it the first time. But when Brad Pitt's repeating himself.
Greg Cody
Who knew it was Brad Pitt? I didn't. It's another guy without a distinctive voice. I want a question from It's a Wonderful Life or the wizard of Oz. Oh, requests. Then I'm a. Nail it.
Stugats
Brad Pitt has a distinctive voice.
Greg Cody
I don't think so. Imitate it. Do your best, Brad Pitt. The first rule of Fight Club is what?
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Greg Cody
That was good, Dan. What?
Stugats
You asked me to impersonate it and I did.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Okay. Well, that was right on spot.
Stugats
You asked me to do it and I did. And I showed you one of my hidden talent.
Greg Cody
We're having fun, though.
Stugats
I can't believe that you can't make it that easy. Do you have another one?
Greg Cody
I'd like the easy ones coming.
Stugats
No, this doesn't work. The game doesn't work as well if he gets them right. Because you make them too easy.
Greg Cody
Leave the gun, take the cannoli. Leave the gun, take the cannoli.
Stugats
Greg, no.
Greg Cody
Is that what he said?
Stugats
Yes, that's what he said.
Greg Cody
Okay. Leave the gun, take the cannoli. Goodfellows.
Stugats
Unbelievable.
Dan Le Batard
You're Close.
Stugats
You are close. Maybe the only one that's more famous than that in terms of Mafia movies.
Greg Cody
Casino Royale. Oh, my God.
Dan Le Batard
That's a Bond close.
Greg Cody
Same genre, almost.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Stugats
Close is. Put it on the pole at Lebiton, Joe. Is the James Bond franchise Mafia movies?
Greg Cody
I have no more guesses.
Stugats
Wait, it's so. I want to stay here for a second. The biggest, most famous movie ever made involving the Mafia is.
Greg Cody
Oh, the Godfather. Yes, but which one? There's like nine of them.
Stugats
Well, that's from the first one.
Greg Cody
Okay.
Stugats
There's three of them. That's the. I think that's the most famous line from the first.
Greg Cody
I don't think so. I saw the Godfather, and that's not a remarkable line to me.
Dan Le Batard
I don't think you saw it.
Greg Cody
I did.
Dan Le Batard
I don't think you did.
Greg Cody
I saw the Godfather. Yeah. Marlon Brando doing his thing. Yeah, I saw it.
Stugats
Give me.
Greg Cody
The second one was better.
Dan Le Batard
That one had Robert De Niro in it.
Greg Cody
Damn right it did.
Stugats
Al Pacino. But Cody likes to call, as Cody likes to call.
Chris Cody
He must have been confused.
Dan Le Batard
Like what?
Greg Cody
Wait, it's the same guy.
Tony
Interchangeable.
Greg Cody
They are interchangeable and everybody knows it. You know?
Stugats
But the polls came back yesterday saying that everyone didn't know.
Greg Cody
It was a close vote.
Stugats
It wasn't that close.
Greg Cody
I think it was 57%. Get Juju on the line. He'll verify it.
Stugats
Give me one more movie line. I don't know how we're going to do better than that. I didn't know how we'd do better than yesterday when he had Al Pacino in both Raging Bull and Bull Durham.
Dan Le Batard
A blind Al Pacino.
Stugats
All right, that's a good correction. All right, here's our next line.
Greg Cody
Rhodes. Where we're going, we don't need roads. Rhodes. Roads. R O, A D S. Yes. As in street.
Dan Le Batard
Where we're going, we don't need them.
Greg Cody
Where we're going, we don't need roads. Okay. It screams Western. How the west was won. Well, part three was.
Dan Le Batard
Part three was a Western.
Greg Cody
You got the Ticonderoga wagons rolling over rough terrain. You don't need roads.
Stugats
No. Now I'm closing my eyes and picturing someone on a horse saying, roads.
Greg Cody
Where we're going, we don't need roads. How the west was won. Wrong.
Dan Le Batard
You said that one already.
Greg Cody
I did? Yeah.
Stugats
Is that the only Western you know?
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Stugats
Really?
Greg Cody
That's Blazing Saddles. I mean, that is a Western. That didn't sound like a comedy.
Dan Le Batard
Good movie.
Stugats
How is it that you've gone the entirety of your life sort of this oblivious to just general pop cult culture things. If I feel like movies are very high on the list on sort of fast forwarding any kinds of friendship connections just for easy conversation. If you do not know what to talk about with somebody on a first date at an awkward cocktail party, I feel like movies are very high on the list of just easy fluency that a number of people have with the same language.
Greg Cody
Yeah, the problem is I don't need that kind of a crutch when it comes to small talk. First of all, I don't do small talk really as a habit, but when I do. For example, I was having a conversation before the show began about the comparative art form of knitting and crochet. That's something I'd much rather discuss than, you know, some line from a movie.
Stugats
Well, thank you for doing that. Because the reason you were discussing that and we were discussing that is because Steve Sarkeesian did something okay. He went old school with this. And I really don't feel that Steve Sarkeesian, with his particular resume should be lecturing anybody on how to do anything. But he was perfectly comfortable saying of Mississippi, they don't actually go to school there. We go to school at Texas. They can get away with basket weaving. And the reference struck me as straight out of the 1950s. It was something an old person would say, and furthermore, basket weaving doesn't seem easy to me. Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Does basket weaving seem easy to you? Because this is something you've heard since the 1970s. What's an easy throwaway class? Basket weaving. But I don't believe that is a class. Or has it ever been a class. Like, why is basket weaving the cliche of choice here when he says this of Mississippi?
Greg Cody
I don't know the origin of that, but it's the opposite of easy. Last time my wife and I were in Key west at the Sunset Pier, we bought a basket that we saw weaved. It was made out of palm fronds. Very supple.
Stugats
Nothing to do with what he has.
Greg Cody
Very supple and dark green. But as it ages, it gets more.
Stugats
Did you listen to anything that I asked you, or do you just want to go on a meandering route on your own? Just a little Greg Cody adventure. I saw a basket that was weaved
Greg Cody
once, and therefore I have a firsthand respect for the art form. So when people say liken basket weaving to something easy, it couldn't be further from the truth. I Dare anybody out there to go, weave a basket today out of any material you like. And you'll find it's not that easy. You know, anybody knows the interlocking weave of a basket, but how do you tether it all together? You know, that's the key.
Dan Le Batard
The term is called underwater basket weaving to show the easiness of the class that you'd be taking as an elective, underwater basket weaving. So I'm gonna see what universities offer that.
Stugats
So wait a minute. I guess it's just because that doesn't actually exist is the joke then, right? Because there's not such a thing as underwater basket weaving. The joke then becomes that the classes they give are not a class that are not a thing that anyone has to take. We'll call it underwater basket weaving, but it's not something that exists. Or is it because we actually weave baskets underwater?
Greg Cody
Why wouldn't that make it more difficult?
Stugats
I just don't understand what the reference is, why the reference started. And I'd like to know why Steve Sarkeesian is using it. I. I would enjoy having some factual information.
Dan Le Batard
It is the tongue in cheek elective. If you're going to take something in school, it's going to be underwater basket weaving. A couple of good notes here. UC San Diego offers a weekend workshop through its rec class department. And Rutgers University has occasionally offered it through scuba and aquatic departments. Do underwater basket weaving at Rutgers via the scuba school.
Stugats
What is underwater bed?
Dan Le Batard
Why they give you the basket and you weave it underwater?
Stugats
Why is it easy? Why is. Why would that be easy? Why would putting a basket in the water and then weaving it be an easy thing? And how the hell did it become the cliche that Sark is going to when he's making fun of Mississippi not going to school? Like, I don't this. I had not heard the phrase basket weaving since I was in college. I hadn't heard anyone use it.
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Greg Cody
Don LeBatard, a woman who was out swimming with her friends is believed to have been swallowed whole by a 13 foot shark without any of her friends noticing.
Dan Le Batard
Hmm.
Greg Cody
That's the weirdest part about that story. You're swimming with friends, you're having a good time and then all of a sudden people are looking around go, where's Shelly? Like, nobody screamed.
Tony
Every friend group has a Shelly though,
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Tony
shark ate them whole, you wouldn't notice. Classic Shelly.
Greg Cody
Exactly right.
Stugats
Stugats.
Greg Cody
She went quietly, apparently. If I'm swallowed whole by a shark, you're gonna know it.
Tony
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. I just don't understand. Why are we busted on Ole Miss? Ole Miss has never had any success in football until this last year. They're like the poorest state in our entire country. Why are we taking shots at Ole Miss?
Stugats
Ole Miss is like Sark. Never had any success at football. Keeps getting pretty good jobs. Perfectly fine as the bully punching down on Mississippi, talking about their education.
Tony
Weird.
Stugats
You got the best quarterback in the country. You got a draft class in Tech. You got the best job in the country. You got the best job in the country and I don't think you should have it. I mean, it's rare on the resume to have a guy who's drinking on the job at one job before, like where he ends in a scandal because he's just drinking at work, allegedly. And he pops up real quick through the. Nick Saban.
Tony
Yeah, that's Saban rehab, the rehab program.
Stugats
And you get the best job in the country. A little bit harder than that.
Dan Le Batard
Going back to the underwater basket weaving situation. Tying a little bit of a. Of a tie to Vietnam era. It was actually talked about as a snap course which taken by students to maintain draft deferment and has since evolved to represent any useless, overly specialized degree or class.
Stugats
I want to give you a stat from ESPN when we talk about Wemby and returning as a conquering hero and how close he is because he's really close to ruining the league for a while. This series that has Anthony Edwards in it. Wembanyama has more blocks than the Timberwolves have made field goals when he contests their shot. I told you, first seven games of the playoffs he had 35 blocks. There's an extraterrestrial playing basketball who's going to get better at basketball and celebrate it while you can because this is going to become less fun when he's reaching from the free throw line and Just dunking on everybody in the league because of. Of how dominant he is. I don't think this is going to feel quite like Shaq, who had a dominance advantage that felt similar. Because I've told you before, Shaq underachieved by only winning four. Great as he was, and great as winning four is, because four is hard. He underachieved given what his dominance level was.
Dan Le Batard
Not only that, they had 50 shots in the paint last night. They scored 68 points in the paint, which is an insane number for a game. 5. When you're coming back to your home court, you're trying to get things going. It was insane. But the, the cool thing is about Wemby. When he's running a pick and roll with Aaron Fox, he gets to a point where you just throw it up as high as you can and literally nobody else can get it. When he spins off and runs, runs to the. To the hoop, it's the easiest play in sports. Throw it up to him. He catches it, he dunks it.
Tony
He's a good player.
Stugats
Yeah, it's not quite Clint Capella. Back when we were changing all of basketball with positionless players, this is more authentically what generally wins in the NBA. It ain't from the perimeter. It's the efficiency of I can dunk, I can dunk. I can get closer than anybody else. I'm taller than everyone else. There's no one to block my shot. The other big story from basketball yesterday, I'm just curious how you guys feel about this. Daryl Morey was cited as a bit of a pioneer. He did do something that gets forgotten that I think will become the greatest part of his legacy. But I will ask you guys how it is that you'll remember Darrell Morey, because I don't think he gets another job. I don't think he's allowed. Not that job, not the job that has the power to pick all of the players, but the greatest thing that he did with Mike d'. Antoni. Mike d' Antoni said to James Harden upon meeting him, you're going to be somebody who takes 15 threes a game, and you're going to have 15 assists a game. And James Harden's quote was, coach be tripping because he didn't believe that he would be that player. That was all Darryl Morey. Seeing the market inefficiency of threes, threes, threes, threes, threes. I'm going to pick up the pace and I'm going to play threes. But. But the sport catches up to you. So the legacy of Daryl Morey as he's fired by the Sixers and the process is an enduring failure for all time. Joel Embiid, best he's ever done is the worst that LeBron's ever done. The best Joel Embiid has ever done is the worst that LeBron ever does. Getting swept in the second round of the playoffs this year by LeBron, that's as bad as it gets. It's about as good as everything gets with Joel Embiid. He's their best player. They've got him locked in for three years. What's the Daryl Morey legacy?
Tony
Traded for James Harden. Like, that's his legacy. That. That. That made his entire career. Traded for James Harden. Harden became a superstar with Houston. They were never quite good enough. I mean, Mori made a bunch of moves pairing guys with him. Chris, Paul, Dwight, Howard. They were never able to get over the hump. And his entire career has been made from trading for James Harden.
Dan Le Batard
I think his career is going to be. He thought he was the smartest guy in the room when he was at one point, and I think at Houston. When he was in Houston, he struck gold, and he thought it was going to be an avalanche of gold, and then he realized it was a couple of specks of gold with James Harden. Then tried to recreate that and then tried to consistently be the smartest guy in the room because he had gotten success at one point, and now he looks back and he's like, man, I made a lot of really stupid moves.
Greg Cody
For me, his legacy has ended badly. Failed in Philadelphia.
Stugats
That's the end of it. I don't. That's not what I associate with him. I associate the Houston stuff with him. And also failed in Philadelphia, where everyone failed. You guys are saying traded for James Harden helped make James Harden an mvp, helped improve the legacy of James Harden. Here's James Harden, though, telling you what he thinks at a Chinese basketball camp about Daryl Moreing. Daryl Morey is a liar, and I will never be a part of an organization he's a part of. Let me say that again. Daryl Morey is a liar, and I will never be a part of an organization that he's a part of. Couldn't hear you the first time.
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Stugats
That is such a vibe, though, choosing to do that in China, where the audience isn't responding to it because it has to be translated.
Tony
Where More also had some things to say about China. You remember he got a little bit of trouble a few years ago?
Stugats
Yes, I. I want to Play the sound here. Chris, if you would, of Darrell Morey with us. We can now empty this file. He came on with us, and he talked about a play that he wrote called Small Ball, and there was sex involved in Basketball players. Do we want to have sex with giants or no? It's between four and six. How to bring the parts into compliance. I just cannot grasp the mechanics.
Greg Cody
Was he singing?
Stugats
He was trying to. He was sort of. I think we kind of made him do it, if I remember correctly. Well, he wrote it on a page, and we just asked him, can you recite some of the lines? And he decided to go into song because it was a musical. It wasn't just a play. Do we want to have sex with giants or no? It's between four and six. How to bring the parts into compliance. I just cannot grasp the mechanics. Yeah, see, he lost some confidence there at the end because he realized he was singing poorly.
Dan Le Batard
He had compliance and science there. And then he went. Mechanics.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Stugats
He wasn't gonna get a lot of opportunities to do that. He realized by the end of it that he had blown the one that he got on a play that he wrote. He is a bit of a. There's a creative in there. And the job that he had only allowed so much creativity.
Dan Le Batard
More so what my parents would call un. Inventor, which is what they called me.
Stugats
Did they?
Dan Le Batard
An inventor.
Stugats
An inventor. Like Thomas Edison.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but more poorly. More things I would. I would make to. Fatihad.
Stugats
Used to be.
Dan Le Batard
How would you say Fatihad in English? Dan?
Stugats
Holed.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Stugats
Yeah. Somebody uninstigated. All right, it's time for our next movie line.
Tony
I drink your milkshake. I drink it up.
Stugats
Don't bully me, Daniel. No shot.
Greg Cody
See, this is just unfair because the other things. The other lines you read, I've heard of at least. You know, I can't think of one offhand. But the other ones you read, I had heard of this one. I have zero.
Stugats
Do you want to try and recite again the Fight Club line? Do you want to give that a shot? Just the line on the one that you got. Do you want to give a shot at the pop culture line that is referenced in Fight Club?
Greg Cody
No. It was, like, three sentences that all had Fight Club in them. You know, it's a guy pimping for his own club, I guess. I don't know.
Stugats
You don't know what this movie is? Do you know who the actor is? Do you have any idea who.
Greg Cody
Let me hear the voice again.
Tony
I drink your milkshake.
Greg Cody
No, I. I don't know who that actor is.
Stugats
It's Daniel Day Lewis. Do you know anything that he's been in? Can you name. Name one of his. A Daniel Day Lewis movie.
Greg Cody
I know Dan. I know Dan Lewis has a great reputation.
Stugats
No one. No one refers to him as Dan Lewis. He does have. He's. He's Dan Lewis.
Greg Cody
He's one of those guys who, like, really gets into the. Yeah. Method actor, you know? So I guess a lot of people
Tony
like that when actors do that. You like that?
Greg Cody
Not so much. You're an actor. You're faking it. You're pretending you don't. I don't want you to immerse in the role. You know, the. The key. Don't gain £50 for the role. Be thin and make me believe you're a fat guy. That's what acting is anyway. I don't know the name of that movie, nor do I have an educated guess.
Stugats
Put it on the pole. Be thin and make me thick. Think you're a fat guy. That's what acting is. Yes or no? Just all one word. I don't think that's what acting is, but that one's too tough. There Will Be Blood is. Yeah, well, it's not that tough, but it's obscure compared. After the last one, I wanted to get tougher.
Greg Cody
Yeah, well, that was the name of it, okay?
Stugats
Oh, you didn't even know when he said There Will Be Blood that that's a movie.
Greg Cody
Why is there a hyphen in his. In his Day Lewis thing? What's that all about?
Stugats
Dan.
Greg Cody
Dan Day Lewis, though. It's Day Lewis. Pick a name anyway.
Stugats
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Daniel Day Lewis. Pick a name, yes or no?
Greg Cody
Not big on hyphenated names.
Stugats
Give me another movie, please, with our terrible, terrible public domain game show music. All right, here's the next movie line. I love black people. I love black people. Who's your mother, Jerry? You? My mother? What you gonna do, Jerry?
Greg Cody
Call me the. Okay. My clue is the word, Jerry.
Tony
He hasn't gotten any yet.
Stugats
No. He got Fight Club.
Greg Cody
I got Fight Club.
Stugats
He got Fight Club because we gave him the name of the movie three times in the quote.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, to be fair about this one.
Stugats
No. What do you mean, to be fair? This one's pretty. This one's pretty obvious. Greg. Especially Greg. It's sports, Greg.
Greg Cody
Oh, it is, is.
Stugats
It's sports. Let's play it again for him. I love black people. I love black people. Who's your mother? Jerry. You my mother. What you gonna do, Jerry? Show me the money.
Greg Cody
Oh, show me the money. Is that the name of the movie? Show me the money?
Stugats
No.
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Date: May 13, 2026
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hour 1 of the episode blends the show's signature mix of irreverent sports commentary, cultural tangents, and the ongoing comedic bit around Greg Cody's legendary ineptitude with movies. The crew debates the NBA playoffs and the “redemption” media narrative swirling around Victor Wembanyama (“Wemby”). They also riff on the influences of broadcasting and league narrative, discuss the meaning (and difficulty!) of "underwater basket weaving," and play another round of "Does Greg Know This Movie?" All of this is peppered with classic tangents about biblical history, fighting advice, and the ethics of AI.
(00:59-02:53) The episode begins with widespread confusion and critical mockery of how the media, and especially NBA broadcasters, handled Victor Wembanyama’s recent "return" to the court after a controversial incident.
(02:36-05:51) Dan expands on what he calls the “Wemby propaganda,” questioning whether the broadcast partners (like streaming platforms) are sanitizing controversy out of league narratives for corporate interests.
(06:01-06:45) The crew debates the severity of Wembanyama's foul and the nature of media and fan forgiveness.
(06:45-10:07) A debate on the lethality of being struck "between the eyes" morphs into banter about biblical stories (David vs. Goliath), weapon evolution, and the reliability of ancient accounts.
(10:07-12:51) Greg Cody jokingly questions David’s "post-Goliath" resume, leading to classic group ribbing.
(16:06-17:27) Tony finds confirmation that a severe hit between the eyes can actually be fatal, but Greg Cody is flummoxed by the anatomy ("What's a globe?").
(17:27-18:13) The use of AI for information sparks ethical discussion.
(18:13-19:02) The discussion derails into whether Cyclopses are real and whether Goliath was a cyclops.
(19:17–20:03) [Fight Club]
(20:47-21:51) [The Godfather]
(22:50-23:40) [Back to the Future]
(24:13-24:38) On Movie Fluency and Small Talk
(24:38-27:53) Prompted by Steve Sarkisian’s comment about Texas having real academics and implying Mississippi is only good for "basket weaving," the panel tries to source the "basket weaving = easy class" trope.
(27:53-28:20)
(33:11-34:43) Wemby’s emerging dominance and its threat to competitive balance:
(34:45-37:26) Daryl Morey is fired; the group discusses his legacy:
(37:30-39:42) Daryl Morey in China; infamous Harden feud; Morey’s creative musical "Small Ball."
(40:13-42:02) [There Will Be Blood]
(43:00+) [Jerry Maguire]
Loose, irreverent, fast-moving, and full of in-jokes; the hour showcases the show's trademark blend of in-depth sports analysis, skeptical takes on mainstream narratives, and a sprawling, anarchic sense of humor. Dan leads the critique and meta-commentary; Stugotz adds absurdity and relatable gripes; Greg Cody gives the show its grounding in generational disconnect and the joy of befuddlement.
This episode is classic Le Batard: a smart but unserious group dissecting the stories behind the stories in sports—especially the forces that shape what fans are told to care about. The "Greg doesn't know movies" game is a highlight for its comedic value, as is the unfiltered banter about the absurdity of media, institutional cliches like "basket weaving," and the constant uncertainty about what’s true in an AI-soaked world.
Don’t expect straight answers—expect fun, skepticism, and a little chaos.