Hora Local: Lo Único Más Poderoso Que El Odio Es El Amor

Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hora Local: Lo Único Más Poderoso Que El Odio Es El Amor
Date: February 9, 2026

Theme:
Broadcasting live from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew dig deep into the Super Bowl—breaking down the game, the spectacle of Bad Bunny's halftime performance, and the cultural significance of Latino representation on American television. The hosts blend irreverent sports analysis and pop culture commentary, exploring how love and celebration can be more powerful (and sometimes more controversial) than hate in today’s divided world.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Super Bowl Recap and Analysis

• Seattle Seahawks Dominance

  • The hosts open by marveling at the Seahawks’ wire-to-wire dominance: winning ten straight to end the season, seven by 10+ points, and trailing for just 95 seconds in the playoffs.
  • Drake May, Patriots’ QB, is described as having the "worst postseason run by a quarterback ever" (05:01), blaming both his injury and the relentless Seahawks defense.

• Kenneth Walker’s MVP Moment

  • Kenneth Walker is praised for his performance, including a touching segment on his father's first attendance at a game due to his fear of crowds.
  • “So the first game he goes to is his son winning Super Bowl MVP. That’s nuts.” — Dan Le Batard (06:20)
  • The debate about MVP selection covers punter Michael Dixon and kicker Jason Myers.

• Offensive Line Catastrophe

  • Will Campbell, Patriots’ offensive lineman, is repeatedly called out for allowing 14 QB pressures—“No offensive lineman has allowed that many all season” (27:42).
  • There’s humor in the halftime analysis being solely: “Will Campbell is getting his butt kicked.” — Dan Le Batard (27:11)
  • Drake May’s sack and fumble stats are highlighted as disastrous (39:29): 33 games, 102 sacks, 24 fumbles.

• Fraudulent Patriots Season

  • The show consensus: Patriots’ record was misleading; once they faced top defenses, their flaws—especially lackluster supporting cast and offensive line—were exposed.

Notable Segment Timestamps:

• 05:01 – Postseason recaps and Drake May’s struggles
• 06:20 – Kenneth Walker and family story
• 27:11 – Halftime analysis roast of Will Campbell

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2. The Halftime Show: Cultural Significance & Reactions

• Bad Bunny’s “Aggressively Brown” Performance

  • The guys call this “the most Hispanic thing to ever appear for a sustained period on American television.” — Dan Le Batard (07:50)
  • They discuss how Bad Bunny intentionally performed only Spanish-language songs, embracing his heritage rather than crossing over.
  • “He’s so good that he doesn’t even have to play some of his classics.” — Dan Le Batard (09:06)
  • Lady Gaga’s inclusion is joked about as an attempt to “make it slightly more palatable” for non-Latinos.

• Audience Divide and Culture Clash

  • Stugotz describes his Super Bowl party, split between “old white people” and “young Hispanic people,” mirroring the divided national reaction (08:22).
  • “All of your dad’s friends talk like old timey press people from the 1920s.” — Dan Le Batard (08:37)
  • The team reflects on backlash similar to Kendrick Lamar's previous halftime show—where “Love over hate is controversial these days… a lot of conservatives had an issue with the messaging: Why are you calling out our hate?” — Mike Ryan (16:53)

• Representation Milestone

  • They analyze the event’s unprecedented Latino presence, evoking deep pride for Miami's and America’s Hispanic communities.
  • “That thing is the most Hispanic thing I’ve ever seen on American television.” — Dan Le Batard (09:06)
  • Don LeBatard explains the authentic depiction of Hispanic culture: “That’s our life… Like, this is us.” (13:34)
  • The real wedding staged within the performance and extensive use of cultural symbols (guayaberas, dominoes, cane fields) are praised for their authenticity.

• Political Undertones & Dystopian Ads

  • The “11 month blackout” tribute to Puerto Rico is discussed as both a celebration and an implicit political message (14:19).
  • The hosts also riff on a dystopian commercial, critiquing facial recognition technology: “They’re wrapping it in lost dogs. Next move is going to be infants.” — Dan Le Batard (24:14)

Notable Segment Timestamps:

• 07:50 – Bad Bunny’s halftime performance discussion starts
• 09:06 – Cultural pride and reactions
• 13:34 – Don describes personal resonance with the performance
• 16:53 – Political messaging in art and performance

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3. Broader Reflections on Inclusivity, Art, and Media

• Language and Inclusion

  • The show openly addresses why some audiences feel excluded by non-English performances, drawing parallels to genre preferences with bands like Metallica (22:29).
  • Dan contemplates: “If you made it say Russian or K-pop and I didn’t understand anything, it wouldn’t summon cultural pride for me. But this is part of the nature of the divisions that are in front of you right now.” (17:27)

• Legacy and Representation in Super Bowls

  • The rarity and significance of such cultural showcases on English-language American TV is dissected, including debates around what counts as “mainstream.”

• Humor and Self-Deprecation

  • The hosts maintain a playful tone, whether roasting offensive linemen, recalling slapstick commercials, or joking about Mike Vrabel’s utterly generic halftime speech: "Block. Execute. Aggressive. Attack. Go find a way." (35:46)

Notable Segment Timestamps:

• 22:29 – Language as barrier and source of pride
• 35:38 – “Go find a way” and coach cliché humor

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Halftime Show Cultural Resonance:
  “That thing is the most Hispanic thing I’ve ever seen on American television.”
  — Dan Le Batard (09:06)

• On Generational Reactions to Art:
  “All of your dad’s friends talk like old timey press people from the 1920s.”
  — Dan Le Batard (08:37)

• On Immigrant Parental Experience:
  “That’s our life… as a, you know, 10-year-old kid at some wedding that I don’t know the two people… Guys, it’s 12:30 at night. I’m tired. I’m down there. Like, that’s our culture. That’s Miami’s culture. That’s Hispanic culture. And to see that displayed on the big screen… Yes. Okay. Like, this is us.”
  — Don LeBatard (13:34)

• On Art and Division:
  “In these times, celebration of heritage is a political statement. Love over hate is controversial these days.”
  — Mike Ryan (16:53)

• On Offensive Line Infamy:
  “No offensive lineman has allowed that many [pressures] all season… For the analysis to be, ‘Hey, you got three seconds here… Will Campbell is getting his butt kicked.’”
  — Dan Le Batard (27:42)

• On the Futility of Coach Speak:
  “Block, execute, aggressive, attack. Go find a way.”
  — Mike Vrabel via Le Batard (35:46)

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment / Topic | |----------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 05:01 | Seahawks dominance and Drake May criticism | | 06:20 | Kenneth Walker’s MVP & family | | 07:50 | Analysis of Bad Bunny halftime show | | 09:06 | Hispanic cultural moment and reactions | | 13:34 | Don LeBatard’s personal reflection on cultural depiction | | 16:53 | Art as a political statement, “Love over hate” | | 22:29 | Language and inclusion/exclusion in art | | 24:14, 27:11 | Snarky halftime analysis and technological critique | | 27:42 | Will Campbell’s struggles on the O-line | | 35:46 | “Go find a way” coach speak and sports clichés | | 39:29 | Drake May’s postseason stats exposed |

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Summary in the Show’s Tone

In classic Le Batard Show fashion, this episode is a raucous blend of sports nerdiness, family anecdotes, candid cultural unpacking, and pointed barbs at anyone who takes themselves too seriously. Through discussions of the Super Bowl’s stunning lopsidedness, Will Campbell’s historic (unfortunate) night, and the controversial, vibrant Bad Bunny halftime show, the crew explores how the fight for joy, love, and representation sometimes irritates people who are stuck in their ways. As Dan puts it, “If it’s controversial, it can only be controversial to you because of the surrounding times around that stadium. The performance was benign. It was just doing what art is supposed to do.” (16:53)

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In short:
If you missed the episode, you’d come away knowing the Seahawks beat up on the Patriots, Bad Bunny made English-speaking America confront Latino culture in dazzling style, and sometimes the most powerful response to hate—localized, global, or just football-related—is a party that everyone’s invited to, whether they recognize the lyrics or not.

Transcript

[Mike Ryan]

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[Don LeBatard]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Don LeBatard]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Don LeBatard]

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[Stugats]

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[Don LeBatard]

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[Guest or Caller]

I'm saying.

[Sponsor or Announcer]

No.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, start the show.

[Don LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.

[Dan LeBatard]

I still think the Rams are better. It's hard to make that argument today, though. The Seahawks won 10 straight to end the season seven by 10 or more points. They trailed for all of 95 seconds in the playoffs. They turned Drake May. They put the punctuation on Drake May. Congratulation. Worst postseason run by a quarterback ever. No dispute. CJ Stroud was in these playoffs and he wasn't this bad because he didn't get to win the games. That made him this bad like that. That is as bad as Drake May. I got to think he's hurt. Like that's part defense and that's part pressure with four. But when he's saying that he's getting a shot before the game, I got that. I didn't Even recognize that Drake May on very simple passes.

[Guest or Caller]

It's funny how that works though, right? Because if Drake may would have in the first game of the postseason be less criticized than losing in the super bowl.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stafford, in three games against the Seahawks, 961 yards, eight touchdowns, no turnovers, 111 quarterback grading. And no one else could do anything against the Seahawks defense. They'll go down as an all time defense. I would have given the MVP to a defender of some sort. Couldn't select one because there were so many. So just give it to the punter.

[Guest or Caller]

You didn't consider Jason Myers?

[Dan LeBatard]

I would just give it to the punter. Why not just give it? Why not? Three punts inside the six yard line. Three of them inside the six in that game. Kenneth Walker, okay, his is. Kenneth Walker's dad had never before been to one of his son's games because he's afraid of crowds. Never been to a Michigan State game, never been to a Seahawks game. So the first game he goes to is his son winning super bowl mvp. That's nuts. That's nuts. That's crazy that he would be that afraid of crowds that he wouldn't brave any crowds. And then the one crowd he would brave listen to Kenneth Walker talking after the game. After winning MVP of the super bowl.

[Don LeBatard]

My dad, he comes out to Seattle all the time and watch games, but he never goes to the game because.

[Guest or Caller]

He don't like crowds.

[Don LeBatard]

So this is his first NFL game and you know, we won a Super bowl, so it means a lot to me. And I know you proud of me for real.

[Mike Ryan]

You have to convince him or just like Super Bowl.

[Don LeBatard]

I wasn't the one that convinced him. Actually my agent convinced him to come out here. So I didn't think he would come. They end up miking him up and everything. So he got out of his comfort zone.

[Dan LeBatard]

Would you guys have objected to making Michael Dixon the punter? The MVP of the game?

[Don LeBatard]

Did have some good punts.

[Stugats]

Had to be the kicker. I was thinking midway through, I'm like, Jason Myers, mvp.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, five for five.

[Mike Ryan]

I think they nailed it. Kenneth Walker was awesome.

[Stugats]

Yeah, like 10 yards.

[Mike Ryan]

He was fantastic.

[Dan LeBatard]

Michael Dixon was also the hold. He was the holder on it was kicker before punter. Daniel Bad.

[Mike Ryan]

You're talking crazy coffin corner, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

We will get to what I believe to be the single most Hispanic thing to ever appear for a sustained period of time on American television. I didn't understand why they inserted Lady Gaga into the middle of that. Probably to make it slightly more palatable.

[Don LeBatard]

Palatable to who?

[Dan LeBatard]

Come on now. You don't think.

[Don LeBatard]

A lot of people at the party that I was at was like, what is she doing here?

[Mike Ryan]

A lot of the conservatives watching were like, well, now it's okay. Famous ally Lady Gaga was never.

[Stugats]

I was so stressed out by this halftime performance. I was with.

[Don LeBatard]

Why? Hold on. Why?

[Stugats]

My dad brought. We had old white people. We had young Hispanic people. It was just like right away, we had old white people being like, I don't know anything. He's saying, I'm going to. I'll be back in 10 minutes. And then they got to walk back. So they give us their thoughts.

[Dan LeBatard]

All of your dad's friends talk like old timey press people from the 1920s.

[Stugats]

You should have seen my dad. My dad was the one.

[Don LeBatard]

I liked it.

[Stugats]

My dad and all.

[Don LeBatard]

Like what?

[Stugats]

Like, it was. My dad was trying to be an ally.

[Don LeBatard]

So.

[Dan LeBatard]

So last. Last year, Kendrick Lamar bothered people with an aggressively black halftime show. Did Bad Bunny then trigger people with an aggressively brown halftime show? I've checked out on social media stuff, so I'm not looking for reactions.

[Guest or Caller]

People were unhappy, Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

So they were unhappy by the same thing they were predicting, right? Kid Rock. And all the fragile, anxious white people who were performing their alternate halftime show were doing so afraid of the fact that none. It's not just that Bad Bunny went Hispanic. Look, that was a celebration of culture. It also did what best art does, okay? Because it moved people. If you care about heritage at all. That thing is the most Hispanic thing I've ever seen on American television. And he went with his most Hispanic songs. It's not even. He's so good that he doesn't even have to play some of his classics to reach over. He's like, no, I'm going all Latin, heavy Latin. And you want something Latin? Here's Lady Gaga.

[Guest or Caller]

Do any of his songs have any English in them?

[Don LeBatard]

There's songs that he's collaborated with that have English in them.

[Guest or Caller]

But, like, is he selfie singing English?

[Don LeBatard]

No. Very, very rare. Very rare.

[Dan LeBatard]

So what was the reaction? Please tell me. I don't know. Like. So the reaction was exactly what? The predicted reaction.

[Stugats]

What demo you talking about?

[Mike Ryan]

There is a song.

[Stugats]

Different reactions.

[Mike Ryan]

There is a song where Booker T. Says, can you dig it, sucker?

[Don LeBatard]

It's called Booker T. By the way.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is it popular? Was it popular? Was it something? Was it polarizing? Yes, of course it was popular.

[Don LeBatard]

100%.

[Guest or Caller]

Yes.

[Don LeBatard]

It was everything to everybody. I know for at least Miami, this was the greatest super bowl halftime show of all time.

[Guest or Caller]

I Mean, I saw. I saw dudes putting out videos on social media, crying just how much pride they felt, you know, like, yeah, the people who loved it, really loved it, and the people who you knew were not going to like it, you know, made up reasons why they didn't like it. But it's also transparent.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, The. This required almost 10, 10,000 theatrical pyrotechnics. It had 400 costumed extras. The walking trees, the dancing trees were paid $19 an hour for 70 hours of work. So they all made the trees, all made thirteen hundred dollars for the rehearsals and everything on game day, according to Darren Revelle. So he went, you know, it's not just the dominoes, the guayaberas. It's not the cane fields. It's. It's that all of it has never been seen before on mainstream American television. What are the most Hispanic things to ever appear on mainstream American television? Does sabalo gigante count, given that it was. That it wasn't. It was on Spanish television in America, but it's not on one of the networks. It's not being watched by this many people.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, it is on one of the networks. It's just a Spanish language.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I'm saying one of the big networks. One of. One of the legacy mainstream network.

[Mike Ryan]

You mean like the English speaking ones, the big four? Yeah, because Univision and Telemundo are also network television.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, I'm saying the English speaking ones because that event yesterday was an English speaking event, and they stopped in the middle of it to go to a totally different language. And it's what people are upset about.

[Don LeBatard]

Yeah, I can imagine. Like, hey, we're bringing this, you know, Russian guy over and all of a sudden it's all Russian. Everybody's like, what is he saying? I don't get it. But, like, Spanish is. Is kind of the second language of the United States, if you really think about it. Per capita, with the amount of people that speak Spanish in this country, it's the second most spoken language in the country. And it was just such a cool moment for just looking across the room at everybody. We were in a place that had 30 people in it and, like, everybody was nodding their heads. Even people that didn't really listen to Bad Bunny were like, holy wow. The production was insane. The costumes were insane, the dancing, the.

[Guest or Caller]

I was in the middle of it. I commented to my wife, I'm like, this is amazing camera work. Because, like, when they were up on the. On the top of, you know, the platform there with the wedding going on nobody bumped into anybody like the cameraman. It was incredible.

[Dan LeBatard]

That was a real wedding, incidentally. That was. Two people got married during that ceremony. I actually had the anxious thought of really worrying for the people who had to splice in the video at exactly the right time. That was clearly of him taped falling through a roof.

[Stugats]

I was arguing, I said it was taped. Everyone was like, that was, I'm like.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys, no, that's where he would change clothes, I think, I think those are. But, but he's got a couple of seconds to do it. And I worried that the video team, that a video team would screw up the timing of that. It seems like that's a lot of pressure for whoever has to make that. That video hits it exactly the right time, 100%.

[Don LeBatard]

And it was not, it was not long enough for him to have a wardrobe change. That's what the Lady Gaga set was for, was for him to be able to take the jersey off that he was wearing, put on the suit top. But Dan, even when he finishes that, he goes into what looks like a quinceanera or a wedding of some sort. And he's got, he's got the, the kids sleeping on the chairs in the big jacket. Like, that's our life. That's me as a, as a, you know, 10 year old kid at some wedding that I don't know the two people that my parents dragged me to. And I'm like, Guys, it's 12:30 at night. I'm tired. I' down there. Like, that's our culture. That's Miami's culture. That's Hispanic culture. And like to see that displayed on the big screen. You're looking at and you're like, wow. Yes. Okay. Like, this is us.

[Guest or Caller]

Jewish boys fall asleep at bar mitzvahs too.

[Sponsor or Announcer]

Oh yeah, that's ours too.

[Dan LeBatard]

Cool. Did a tribute.

[Stugats]

I don't bring kids to wedding.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did a tribute to the 11 month blackout that Puerto Rico had. Because I don't know if you think of this as a political statement, because I really did think of it as just celebration of heritage. But in these times, celebration of heritage is a political statement. One of those commercials. What? I don't know if it scared you guys as a dystopian commercial. They're not seeking dogs with whatever it is they're doing with your facial recognition there. Like ICE would like that information. Like that seemed dystopian. Oh my God. Is that a trick?

[Guest or Caller]

My wife wanted me to download it.

[Don LeBatard]

Don't do it.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh my God, guys.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I got, I Got. I watched that and was like, you've got to be kidding me.

[Stugats]

It was all the old white people been like, why are there light posts there? And then my Cuban sister in law has to be like, well, actually in Puerto Rico. And you know, just in the middle of a performance, she's like explaining why.

[Don LeBatard]

They'Re like their power grid is failing and it. And it has a lot to do in. The song is actually called Elapagon, which is the. Shut off, the lights turned off.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

The blackout.

[Guest or Caller]

And did you notice all the like the cameos, the celebrities who were there dancing? I got, I got news for you, man. In case, you know, there was Pedro Pascal and there was Cardi.

[Sponsor or Announcer]

Pablo.

[Dan LeBatard]

Pablo, as I like.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

And.

[Guest or Caller]

And I, I don't know if you, if you caught it because it was really quick, but Jessica Alba. Yo, Dan, if you weren't aware of Jessica Alba because like she doesn't, she doesn't act anymore. Like she kind of like she retired or whatever.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, she runs a giant, a giant cosmetics business that makes her a lot more money than she ever made from Hollywood.

[Guest or Caller]

Well, I don't know if you're aware because she doesn't act anymore. Jessica Abba still. Fine.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm sorry, what was that update?

[Don LeBatard]

You know what he said?

[Dan LeBatard]

Ronald Acuna was in the middle there. Who else? Who else was there? The Ricky Martin thing. I. Many of you probably aren't old enough to even remember that. The previous moment I think of, which is just slapping America across the face with Hispanic, was the really the breakout performance of Ricky Martin at the Grammys, where the electrical current of him doing the music was larger than all of the other music being performed live. It's sort of the last place I go to that felt like what it is that this was meant to feel like. But there was nothing controversial in this. This was simply a celebration of heritage. This was just simply a party. And if it's controversial, it can only be controversial to you because of the surrounding times around that stadium. It has nothing to do with the performance. The performance was, was benign. It was just doing what art is supposed to do.

[Mike Ryan]

Love over hate is controversial these days. Just to make that clear. That's what a lot of conservatives had an issue with, the messaging. Why? Why are you calling out our hate?

[Guest or Caller]

And then of course there was, you know, it's. Couldn't understand. And he was saying, because I don't speak English, I got news. You like Kendrick Lamar last year. I don't understand the words.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, but they had the same complaints there at Same reason, same stuff. No, but I go past that.

[Guest or Caller]

Like, make it, make it whatever rock band, you know, you tell me you go to a rock band show and you understand all the lyrics that are being said during the song?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, but some of them, but, but some of them, like, I actually understand why people would object to that. I do. And it's just because you're close minded, you're entitled to be closed minded. You have that freedom. But I understand if I were, if you made it say Russian or K pop and I didn't understand anything, it wouldn't summon cultural pride for me. But this is part of the nature of the divisions that are in front of you right now. That was an expensive show. They put together music.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't understand what anybody's saying, like, Doobie Brothers are like the widest band of all time.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's Mike McDonald. He made a cameo. Champion.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Don LeBatard]

Stugats.

[Stugats]

Colonel Jessup, did you order the code Red?

[Guest or Caller]

You don't have to answer that question.

[Mike Ryan]

I'll answer the question.

[Dan LeBatard]

You want answers?

[Stugats]

I think I'm entitled to them.

[Dan LeBatard]

You want answers?

[Stugats]

I want the truth.

[Dan LeBatard]

I. You can handle the truth. This is the Don Levatar show with the Stucats. In a hypothetical if. I'm just saying to you hypothetically, while I can say, sure, I don't understand a lot of the lyrics, there's not 100% guarantee before you start that I'm not going to understand any of the lyrics. Like, that's never so if they're in English and if it's America, I shouldn't even say American music because Puerto Rico is America, Jack. America Jack. But if it's Spanish, the starting point is you're excluding me. So I get why people might be threatened or fragile about that. But this man doesn't sing in English. Like, his English, he just learned. He's just learned some English, and it's not great. He struggles in English.

[Don LeBatard]

And on top of that, regardless of language, when you just pull out an act, like, last year was what, Usher.

[Guest or Caller]

I think Kendrick Lamar.

[Don LeBatard]

It was Kendrick Lamar.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Don LeBatard]

But a couple of years ago, there's like an Usher or like some of the. If you don't like the band or you don't like the person, they're already excluding you.

[Sponsor or Announcer]

Right?

[Don LeBatard]

Because if you're looking at me like, oh, I don't really like if they would have taken Metallica. Like, I'm not a Metallica fan.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not a.

[Guest or Caller]

Should have been Metallica San Francisco. How was it? Not Metallica?

[Don LeBatard]

Okay, sure, whatever.

[Guest or Caller]

Nothing against Bad Bunny. How's it?

[Don LeBatard]

Okay, so if it was Metallica, I would have checked out. I've been like, okay, they're excluding me. But I'm okay with that because I know what. I just. I don't like that music. Okay. It's not a big deal. I'm not going to go turn a Hispanic halftime show around.

[Dan LeBatard]

Zaslow is speaking to something here when he brings up Metallica, that Goodwill Duncan commercial hit. Because it was for old people, Correct?

[Guest or Caller]

I liked it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know, I know, I know. But it's the same reason you want Metallica. There is a certain nostalgia that. Was that considered the best of the commercials.

[Stugats]

Benson Boone, Ben Stiller.

[Don LeBatard]

For me, when people fall off of something and hit something, it's always fun. It's always fun.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll at Le Batard show. But especially when they're dressed kind of like the character from Dodgeball. Like that. But yes, when people fall off something, is it always funny? Put that on the pole. And please, Louis, do me the favor of getting that video of Ditka and Paul horning on stage. When one of them falls off a stage because the other one slaps him on the back and just put it in picture. In picture.

[Mike Ryan]

I thought we all liked finding dogs. What's wrong with that? It's a great service. You lose your dog, we find your puppy, Everybody's happy.

[Guest or Caller]

I can't believe I fell for the rope. A dope there.

[Dan LeBatard]

Really? You're surprised that you come from privilege?

[Guest or Caller]

My wife wanted me. Like, we have ring in my house. My wife wanted me to make sure I. I set the notification on.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it's. It's dystopian. When I saw that, I'm like, oh, my God, they're this comfortable just doing it in plain view. This comfortable, they're wrapping it in lost dogs. Next move is going to be infants. If you lose your infant, they're just going to trick people into how it is. They get your facial recognition.

[Mike Ryan]

Be glad that they told you because it's actually been something that they've had access to for a while now.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, that's true, too. Getting to the game for just a moment. Okay. Because we had the conversation, Mike, this year about turnovers and is it recreatable? Okay. And then Chicago caused more turnovers than any team in the sport this year. But they get to the playoffs, they caused zero turnovers. Seattle all season, turnover machine Sam Darnold led the league in turnovers. They go the entire postseason without a turnover. First super bowl team ever, first super bowl winning team ever to go an entire postseason without a single turnover. And obviously the game plan in that game, given you saw this early, right? Patriots weren't going to be able to do anything. Sam, Just don't throw the game away. Like, if you could just not throw the game away. There's no circumstance under which Seattle will lose this football game.

[Mike Ryan]

Early on, it seemed like he was trying.

[Guest or Caller]

There was one pass early on. Should have been a pick six.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. It's rare where you come away from a Super bowl and you ask yourself, was that team any good? That's how good the Seahawks were in this Super Bowl. I'm stunned that they were wire to wire dominant and I'm really stunned at how bad Drake may look. This was. They were so far out of their depth. That was not a fair fight.

[Don LeBatard]

I think defensively, what Seattle is able to do with just rushing four and getting home with four and dropping seven in the back was just like, all right, you're going to force a guy with a bad shoulder to make really tight window throws and it just wasn't happening.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, let me address a couple of things here because we will Talk about Mike McDonald and make him a star, and we will talk about Sam Darnold and make him a star. But John Schneider has now won two championships with no holdover players and a different coach. I don't think people know the architect of this football team. And he's now done it twice with two totally different things. And when you mention the pressure with four, this part was funny to me. Zas. So before Bad Bunny and the halftime show, these poor people or rich people who are doing the halftime analysis have about four seconds to talk. Like, it's just. It reminds me of the ABC NBA halftime shows like get in and out. This Is all about commercials. We're coming to all of you for 47 seconds total for all of you. And so somebody's analysis. I'm not making this up. So I guess it was McCordy. I wasn't really paying attention, but I just heard one person's analysis because they're just shooting around everybody. Garrett, what do you got? Give it to me in four seconds. And the guy's analysis was just, will Campbell is getting his butt kicked. And I felt so bad for Will Campbell's family.

[Mike Ryan]

It's hard for a nation at large to recognize battle line play. He was getting his ass whipped. He was getting his ass kicked from whistle to whistle. That was so bad.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, did you guys see the stats, though? He allowed 14 quarterback pressures. No offensive lineman has allowed that many all season. Like that didn't happen one time. But for the analysis to be, hey, you got three seconds here. I'm gonna say McCordy, cuz I don't. I was just half listening. But all of his analysis was just simply and accurately, Will Campbell is getting his butt kicked.

[Mike Ryan]

There was a hilarious moment in that game. It was just after, you know, the pinpoint accuracy parabola ball to Mac Hollins, right? And it looks like, okay, maybe New England figured this thing out.

[Don LeBatard]

We.

[Mike Ryan]

We have a backdoor opportunity. Give me some juice here. They're starting to move the ball, and Chris Collinsworth is like, yeah, yeah, all right. They're starting to find their rhythm. And then Drake May throws the worst interception possible. And it leaves Chris Collinsworth speechless to the point that he literally says, yep, I've got nothing for you here.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was bad throw getting back to the line play, though, that we don't talk about enough when these things happen, right? I don't think people understand how bad you have to be for everyone to notice that you're that bad. For example, Kenneth Walker had those good runs. Go ahead and tell me who had the good blocks on him. It's every offensive lineman's worst nightmare to do the. To have the game that Will Campbell had where we're all noticing, oh, my God, they're going to just cave in that side of the line all game. He's got no chance. He shouldn't be out there.

[Mike Ryan]

I think Kenneth Walker had the type of performance where you actually, like, he stood out because of his patience, whether it be. I know that there was one famous one highlighted where he did, like, the Le'Veon Bell, like. And then he shoots a very tiny gap. But all those screens, that was all patience. Like, he Was waiting for his blocks to set up. Sometimes there wasn't much of a lane. That's why I think he was a worthy mvp. I thought he was. Is dynamite.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can you guys look up for me? I think Justin Tuck one time against the Eagles had six or seven sacks in a game. And it's the last time I felt that way for an offensive lineman. I don't even remember who the offensive lineman was, but he was just totally ill equipped. And I think Tuck had six or seven sacks in a single game because they were never able to adjust to it. Never able to fix it to go an entire game or entire season that no offensive lineman has allowed that many quarterbacks pressures. And the worst part of it was that Drake May was unrecognizable because he got scared. Like that's what happened. And he should have been scared. Like he had no time. There were no answers. They couldn't leave enough people in. You can't go find Hunter Henry every time the way you did all season. Because. Because Will Campbell was a turnstile. Like you cannot have four guys getting that much pressure when you've got five and six guys blocking them. That allows you only to send four receivers to seven people covering them.

[Don LeBatard]

He was spooked from the jump, right? Like Will Campbell. There was one play and I think it was in at half after halftime, excuse me, where he gets a false start call on him. So he's got a. He's got the start. Okay. He beats the defender out of his stance and then he gets pushed so far that it knocks over Drake May on a false start. And it's like, dude, how do you cover 10ft of ground just getting pushed like that? They were talking about on the broadcast that his issue is he gets pushed so, so badly that he knocks into the. To the quarterback. And that's what happened in one of the sacks. I'm trying to think of who it was.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it was right up the middle.

[Don LeBatard]

Right up the middle. Big white guy, 92. Literally just has Will Campbell in one hand, grabs Drake May with one. With the other hands and takes them both down. I was like, what is happening here?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, that a lot of people are commenting today that McDaniels needs to get Will Campbell some help in that situation. Like you have to do something so that it doesn't. So that, that you have the number one defense in the league feeding. Like the sharks feel blood in the water feeding because they know you've got. They've got your quarterback scared.

[Mike Ryan]

Why else is Austin Hooper on the roster?

[Don LeBatard]

Throw a chip block, buddy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard. Football.

[Mike Ryan]

Football, football, football, football, football. Stugats football. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stuff.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is rare for you to see somebody who was one vote away from winning the MVP look scared. And for you to understand, oh, of course he's scared. How could he not be scared? Nothing, nothing is working. And they look incompetent in the first half. And he knows good and well, just like Seattle does, just like everyone watching on television, just like Lady Gaga and Bad Bunny know. Oh, Will Campbell can't block anybody here. They've got an offensive lineman there who might as well not be out there.

[Don LeBatard]

And the other thing too is you want to hit the quarterback early, right? And that's what we saw with Miami and Indiana where they were roughing up Mendoza early to try to get him Happy Feet in the pocket early to have off balance throws. And you saw that from Drake May. There was a pass that he threw to Hunter Henry that almost killed him where he was way back on it. Pop Douglas had a back shoulder throw that he was laid on, so he wasn't setting his feet. He had Happy Feet in the pocket trying to make something happen, knowing that with four guys, he's getting pressure and it's like, what do I do here?

[Mike Ryan]

I haven't had this feeling watching a Super bowl in a long time, which is like, what the hell are they doing here? The last time I felt that way was like in the mid-90s with the Chargers against the Niners. I'm like, how did you make it here? Somebody stepped out of bounds. I wasn't like, what are you doing here?

[Don LeBatard]

Hold on, Mike. I'll give you the. The Patriots and Rams super bowl. That was 13:3, where the Rams and Jared Goff had absolutely nothing. And I want to say off the top of my head, that was the same year that the Rams got the pay the PI. Yeah, that was egregious.

[Mike Ryan]

They changed the rules. I at least knew what they were doing there. It was a bad call.

[Dan LeBatard]

No. And Todd Gurley got hurt and they really needed him for everything that Goff was doing. And Gurley, they were terrible. Ended that career. Yeah, but Gurley's career ended with whatever the injuries were that prevented him from playing in that game. He was the actual MVP for that team. To Mike's point, though, how did the Patriots get here? Okay, 14 and three. Three losses by one score. One to the Steelers, one to the Bills, one to the Raiders.

[Guest or Caller]

They lose. The Raiders.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, because they didn't play Anybody.

[Mike Ryan]

I watched that game yesterday. I can understand them dropping a dumb one to the Raiders.

[Dan LeBatard]

They didn't play anybody, and they lost their healthy offensive lineman a month ago. And I thought the wheels were going to fall off. Then they just fell off when they had to face the three best defenses back to back. And they won two of the games. They won two of the games because C.J. stroud was terrible and because Jarrett Stidham's not a starting quarterback. Stickum, he's not a starting quarterback, and that's the reason they lost those games. I would have preferred, obviously, to see Den in that game, or they could have just run it back, Rams and Seahawks, and I would have been fine with that. But did you guys see this? This made me laugh, Right? They interview Vrabel at halftime, and he says, all we got to do is block, execute, attack, be aggressive, go find a way. None of that's helpful. Like, none of it is helpful. Like, hey, Coach, Coach, what do we have to do? Block, execute, attack, be aggressive and go find a way.

[Don LeBatard]

What are you confused by? I got exactly what the mandate was. What is it?

[Guest or Caller]

Block, execute, aggressive.

[Don LeBatard]

Aggressive.

[Mike Ryan]

Go find a way.

[Dan LeBatard]

Attack. Go find a way. I got it. Let's go. All right. Yeah, but, coach, our quarterback's scared because we can't block their four guys attack.

[Guest or Caller]

Why?

[Stugats]

He said block attack is useless there. Everything else, very helpful.

[Dan LeBatard]

Aggressive is very helpful.

[Don LeBatard]

Got to be aggressive.

[Stugats]

I need to know that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Aggressive. So block, execute, aggressive, attack. Go find a way.

[Stugats]

The only redundancy there.

[Mike Ryan]

I fell for so much BS before the game because the AFC had home designation and Mike Vrabel wanted to do this road warrior mentality thing. So they wore all white, their road uniforms, despite them being the home team. It's largely why fanatics was not ready for any of the super bowl merch. But they also opted. One thing that I caught during the pregame was they also opted for the road locker room. So any shot that they had of the Patriots, like they were in the tinier road locker room, that looked crappy, they willingly did that. I'm like, man, this team may just roll. They're all crazy like their head coach. And it turned out that they were crazy to think that they had a shot. They got rolled in this one, and.

[Dan LeBatard]

They turned to their coach. Coach, we need some advice. Nothing's working. Go find a way.

[Mike Ryan]

All right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thanks, coach. Appreciate it. Go find a way.

[Don LeBatard]

Make it happen.

[Dan LeBatard]

Will Campbell go find a way.

[Don LeBatard]

He didn't find it.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, he did not. Again, do you realize in a halftime show where everyone is talking for 3 seconds cuz they got to get to the next commercial in a hurry. Cuz everybody's watching the commercial. It's the only time all year that people are watching commercials. Everyone's skipping through commercials everywhere, but not on this day. And the analysis is Will Campbell is getting his butt kicked. Just if you're an offensive lineman, you dream all your life of playing in the Super Bowl. That is a horror. That is an uncommon horror to have everyone noticing you playing.

[Guest or Caller]

Do you just imagine like his grandma sitting on the couch and hearing that?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Because the thing is, the only time you notice an offensive lineman is when there are penalty flags. But there were no penalty flags in that game. It's just somebody getting devoured.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah, why didn't he hold a couple?

[Dan LeBatard]

There were no penalty flags in that game. So it's just we're all noticing someone's incompetent and it's because of the pressures being allowed. It's not even the sacks. It's. It's that he allowed 14 quarterback pressures.

[Don LeBatard]

That's so many.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean it's more than any lineman is allowed this season. They played the entire season. There are a lot of bad linemen out there. There were plenty of games with plenty of sacks. That's the only one that' had one lineman getting four quarterback 14. Allowing 14 quarterback pressures. And then the analysis from the halftime analyst is Will Campbell is getting his.

[Don LeBatard]

Butt kicked on 43 attempts from Drake May, by the way. So 14 pressures on 43 attempts. It's a very good percentage.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you, Tony.

[Guest or Caller]

Do you think when they call in the play like they're about to huddle up and McDaniels calls in the play to his ear, it's another passing place like shit.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, did it not seem to you that Drake May was not only scared but unrecognizable? Like that's like that Stafford didn't look like that. Stafford beat that dude by one vote. Stafford didn't look like that against that defense. That looked incompetent and unhealthy. Like at least surprising thing in the world that, yeah, I needed an injection before the game. I don't recognize the quarterback that's been playing for the last month. Jeremy, how many times has Drake Baby been sacked in the Postseason? It was 20. What? It was 20. It was 20 plus times that he was sacked. So the stat on Drake May, I've got it written down here somewhere.

[Guest or Caller]

This was 21.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, this. But the stat on Drake May, he's played 33 games. It's 102 sacks and 24 fumbles. It's seven fumbles this postseason. 33 games, 102 sacks, 24 fumbles. That's four sacks a game. And that's nearly a fumble per game every time he's out there. That's not Stafford.

[Mike Ryan]

No, it's not. I mean, Stafford has a lot more help around him. That's pretty evident. Puka Nakua, Devonte Adams, Parkinson Higbee, like kyron Williams. Sean McVay calling it. Hunter Henry has been in the league for 10 years. Austin Hooper has been a punchline on our show for five years and he's still in the league. Mac Hollins, like, what are we doing? Stefon Diggs, like, okay, potential hall of Fame career, no doubt. But not at this point in his career. That's, that's not a lot of talent surrounding Drake May right now.

[Guest or Caller]

Did you see Mack Holland's get up arriving at the stadium yesterday?

[Stugats]

What was he doing?

[Guest or Caller]

Hannibal Lecter, right? He was Hannibal Lecter.

[Mike Ryan]

He's. He's got branding and he did his job. He caught his touchdown. I got no problem with Mac Holland.

[Dan LeBatard]

Coming in barefoot and with shackles on.

[Mike Ryan]

That's always, he always arrives barefoot. That's his thing.

[Sponsor or Announcer]

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[Don LeBatard]

Thank God.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stupid.

[Mike Ryan]

Someone on that team had some life, something to them.

[Sponsor or Announcer]

Drake May was indeed sacked 21 times. And Dan, it took 20 minutes, but I finally found the game you were referencing when you said Justin talk. It was Ocu Minura. He had six sacks in a game in September of 2007 against the left tackle Winston justice of the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Guest or Caller]

Oh, I remember Andy Reid got crushed after that game.

[Sponsor or Announcer]

So a 20 year old reference.

[Mike Ryan]

We speak Dan back here. We were on that wild goose chase forever. I'm like, he said Justin Tuck, but he was doing it from the.

[Don LeBatard]

Could it be Grady Jarrett?

[Mike Ryan]

Because when he said he was like, I forget the kid's name.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was Winston.

[Mike Ryan]

Justin, we figured it out.

[Sponsor or Announcer]

Humanura.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you for doing all of the translations on that. I didn't get any of the names right while saying I remember it.

[Don LeBatard]

We got there. Tuck did. Have we found a way?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. The reason why you confuse it is Tuck also had a big Sunday night football game, but it was against Washington. And since he would do most of his damage from the inside, there wasn't somebody to put that loss on. So I knew you were conflating it with another Sunday night football game.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you. Winston justice is the guy I was thinking of and it's the last time I felt that Kind of bad for an offensive lineman of. Of any kind, because it's hard to notice them. And you're probably. You can give Kenneth Walker the patient award because not since Le'Veon Bell has a running back run quite like that where he's that patient in the backfield. But we don't notice those offensive linemen when they're actually making the holes. There's only a couple of ways to notice them. They're allowing all the sacks or they're getting penalties. There were no penalties in that game. That was a. That was a clean game. And I think we can say without it being overreaction. Right. Patriots were frauds. We can say it without it being an overreaction. Correct. Because of everything Mike is saying here, where once their quarterback gets scared, you realize how little help he has.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah, I guess I wanted to push back against it, but I think you're probably right.

[Don LeBatard]

All you got to do is look at who they played this year. They didn't play anybody.

[Stugats]

Right.

[Don LeBatard]

There's a laundry list of coaches that they played that got fired this season.

[Guest or Caller]

Barely got past Denver two weeks ago.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, but they were 14 and 3 the way Darnold's Minnesota team was 14 3. And then they got rid of Darnold. Darnold is now 317 in his last 38 games.

[Don LeBatard]

There's nobody better. I mean, there's nobody better. There hasn't been a better stretch of that in a very long time.

[Dan LeBatard]

317 in 38 games. If only. Only because he's Sam Darnold. And everything happened last year in Minnesota. And then they lose in the playoffs. Exactly the way you thought. We make Sam Darnold a fraud, but he's not. And now the Patriots are. Because I haven't seen many 14 and three teams that get to be frauds, but Drake May's on one of them, and Sam Darnold was on the last one I saw. Because that Minnesota team was a fraud too, and lost immediately in the playoffs. Drake May's misfortune. Drake May would have been better off just losing at Denver. Bo Nix being healthy and just lose at Denver. And so you don't have to be like 21 sacks in three games. Drake May's gonna get the blame for that. But the organization and the offensive line. I know that guy's good. I know he is.

[Don LeBatard]

Is he?

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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