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Stugotz
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Roy Bellamy
This episode of the Dan lebatar Show with Stugats is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company in New York, New York.
Mike Ryan
I have noticed, as many of you have, that over the last 10 years, whatever the conversation is about race, or whether it's race in sports or race in politics, that it has gotten in some instances unfathomably dumb, as when Mina Kimes finds herself in quote unquote, controversy talking about Jackie Robinson because of how ridiculous the behavior is around any of these conversations. I'm going to talk later in the show With Jemele Hill about the general dumbness of everything that happened last week when where it's like, that is not a smart race conversation. Stephen A. Smith ending up with wanting to debate Donald Trump on DEI from that as the starting point with saying that RG3 wasn't liked by the people at ESPN and RG3 longing for when games just used to be games in coverage like that. Controversy is one of the dumbest I've seen in my lifetime as we're supposed to be evolving this conversation.
Chris Cote
But Stephen A. Smith debating Donald Trump is so super bowl numbers on television. Right.
Jeremy Tache
That would be electric.
Billy Gill
It's my worst nightmare.
Roy Bellamy
I hate it so much.
Jeremy Tache
I mean, two president, maybe a presidential candidate coming up with Stephen A. Smith.
Billy Gill
Again, my worst nightmare.
Mike Ryan
You guys just want to. That's what that. The super bowl.
Jeremy Tache
It would be.
Chris Cote
You're telling me there are people at home, you know, a lot of people like sports. A lot of people in this country like sports. If you said to this person, Stephen A. Smith is debating President Trump tonight. They're not watching. Everyone's watching.
Jeremy Tache
Pay per view numbers. That'd be massive.
Stugotz
Pay per view numbers aren't very good.
Jeremy Tache
But the point is it would be come back. Exactly.
Chris Cote
Big comeback.
Billy Gill
You have to pay in Trump coin.
Roy Bellamy
Oh, good God, man. I hate this so damn much. I hate it so much. Like, you want to talk about doing shows. You want to split off sports and politics during a sports show. Jackie Robinson's entire life was politics. Like, he couldn't play Major League Baseball until 1947, when he was the first person to break the color barrier. Like, what are we doing here? Like, he had to play Negro league baseball. Like, what is. I don't know what RT3 is talking about. It just doesn't make any sense to me. It makes me so angry.
Mike Ryan
Can you guys look up for me just the history of the phrase color barrier? Because I want to explore something here that I do not know because I. It's not an actual barrier, but when I think of whatever that is meant to represent, I think of Jackie Robinson. There is. There is not another name, I think. I don't know what a color barrier is if not for Jackie Robinson as representation. I don't know the history of that phrase.
Stugotz
I mean, Rosa Parks had a color barrier too.
Mike Ryan
Agreed. But I don't. I'm saying I don't know what a barrier where that phrase once started.
Billy Gill
It's. It's here. It's with Jackie Robinson, apparently. You know, they called it the color line, but also referred to as the color barrier. And it literally, by definition, it says the color line, also known as the color barrier in American baseball, excluded players of black African descent from Major League Baseball and its affiliated Minor Leagues until 1947. It's Jackie Robinson who broke it. And that's exactly where the term comes from.
Mike Ryan
So that is the history, and that is the fact. And we are in the process of rewriting history through everything from banned books to arguments about censorship. And they're just distracting, right? You need to understand that Mena Kimes is being used there for how she looks and whatever her political ideology is as a tool to then ensnare RG3. And it's how you do it. It's how you win. You just pit the sides against each other, let them devour each other in the stupidity, and you run off with all the money and try and make Gaza a luxury resort strip. Like, with the richest man in the world in your office. Like, that's how all that happens. You have all the money in the world and you've cheapened every principle there is in America.
Roy Bellamy
Well, here's the thing about a color barrier, because every black person had a color barrier back in 1947. And before that, because it was Jim Crow back then, it was segregation. Like, you can. You couldn't eat at white restaurants or drink water from a white water fountain.
Mike Ryan
That's.
Roy Bellamy
That's how things went back then.
Mike Ryan
I need a sorbet of some sort. Jeremy, I'm going to put you in a tough spot here. I'm going to need a transition here that is light and breezy. Can you give me something that you came in here after a couple of days off dying to talk about today that can transition us from the conversation that makes Roy so angry into something a little lighter?
Billy Gill
Well, it's a perfect conversation transition because it's still baseball oriented. Did you guys see what happened with the Orioles AA affiliate, the Chesapeake Bay Sox, because they are going to have a unique name for select games this season. Just like the Pensacola Blue Wahoos became the Pensacola Mullets for select games, the Chesapeake Oyster Catchers is the name. And here's the logo of what they used for the Chesapeake Oyster catchers. Now, I don't know about you guys, but that oyster also looks like something else to me.
Jeremy Tache
I like the logo. What's wrong with it?
Roy Bellamy
For the audio audience, it's a baseball glove, and the glove caught an oyster. And in the oyster, it's a pearl that looks like.
Billy Gill
Dan, can you find the baseball?
Mike Ryan
Is it inside the Vagina.
Roy Bellamy
I think you found it.
Stugotz
What?
Jeremy Tache
It's an oyster.
Stugotz
I thought the transition was gonna be Jeremy singing a song about color barriers.
Billy Gill
Oh, God. Oh, Lor.
Stugotz
No, he seems to have a song. He's an ally, though.
Mike Ryan
He could.
Jeremy Tache
He could whip one up.
Mike Ryan
Is there not a. Is there not a marketing department here? Is there not, like, how.
Billy Gill
Oh, there is. And that's why they ended up with that logo.
Mike Ryan
What's the back? What's the story? What is the backstory? What is now happening around this wonderful logo?
Billy Gill
What's happening around it is great because they released it. And what's funny is it seems as though they might not have had anyone catch that on the front end, but after they tweeted from their official account, some saw an oyster, others saw something unexpected. We see an opportunity to turn viral laughs into positive impact. In celebration of Women's History Month, 10% of all oyster catchers merch sales will support I Am Survivor, which is a cervical cancer education center. So it really worked out perfectly.
Dan Le Batard
Inclusion is important because in a diverse workplace, someone may have said, hey, this actually looks like a vagina.
Billy Gill
Yep.
Mike Ryan
So when I mentioned that Jeremy yesterday was doing that report on Advancing Through Dancing and the Heat, by the way, have been doing for a while now a celebration of women that if we're gonna make the RG3 Jackie Robinson conversation about politics, this then, too would be the Heat aggressively being political by simply celebrating women during their broadcast.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Which is a choice the Heat have. Have made. That is now a political choice. That's a political choice.
Billy Gill
I don't know that it's political. I know that they have been doing this for several years now. And specifically, the Advancing Through Dancing causes is really great because it's a professional leadership workshop for everyone who's a Heat dancer. And ultimately, at the end of it, what they did was they gave out a $10,000 grant to the winner who pitched what her business would be. She runs a nonprofit, and ultimately she's going to use that money to help get her pilot's license because it has to do with aviation and being able to spread for a good cause. But it's like it's. It's inherently criticized. Like, if you go to social media and you see any of these posts, particularly with the Heat, like, even. Even the celebrations for Women's History Month, all you're going to see is replies of people saying, fire Pat Riley.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, of course it's political to celebrate women's inclusions in sports. It's political to have women included in the workforce in this country, we still have very backwards laws that don't really let women, and especially mothers continue their careers in this country. Like, we don't have a lot of things that other countries have. It's all political, Dan. Yes.
Billy Gill
And to bring it back to the Jackie Robinson part of it, right? Like, that's why diversity, equity, and inclusion is important. Like dei. Again, we talked about this a little bit on Friday, but that phrase has been hijacked and turned into just a symbol for everything that the right doesn't like. No different than WOKE was, no different than Critical Race Theory was, and no different than Black Lives Matter was. They just keep taking these terms, they turn them into abbreviated terms, blm, crt, dei, so that nobody actually knows what the words are. But diversity, equity, and inclusion are the reasons why you're able to build up a workforce that is able to produce something that's. That's better than it would have been if it was just a bunch of white dudes.
Mike Ryan
I asked you for a pallet cleanser. I tried.
Billy Gill
I always bring it back there.
Mike Ryan
We ended up in exactly the same place at all.
Jeremy Tache
It's the same palette.
Stugotz
What happened here?
Jeremy Tache
I didn't get cleansed. I mean, the same thing.
Stugotz
Jamel will fix this.
Mike Ryan
Oh, okay. Well, I'd love to get all your thoughts on the matter.
Jeremy Tache
On what Jackie Robinson. I stay with Jackie.
Mike Ryan
Both of you.
Stugotz
The crazy thing about this is, like, the story was not about the removal of the article. Right. It quickly just became a story about Mina during FaceTime on around the Horn. And that's what the debate became about. Like, the outrage wasn't even about the action. It was about the reacting to the action, which is kind of like usage.
Chris Cote
Of her television time.
Stugotz
Yeah, it was. It was like, you guys are getting mad about the wrong thing here.
Mike Ryan
So I'll tell you some backstory here. It is dated, but just so that you know the choices that are being made in media at the moment around this kind of stuff, as you have legal rulings over the weekend where people are afraid of Trump and his money. And in this small, little, stupid playground of sports, a long time ago, me, Mitch Albom and Mike Lupica wrote like, these two minute things.
Roy Bellamy
The sports reporters.
Mike Ryan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not this. Please. It's not a parting shot on sports reporters. That was one thing. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm saying weekly on SportsCenter, their signature property. Disney and ESPN proud of this thing that is meant to represent Their company as the proudest thing built on SportsCenter. In there they would put these two minute things that we wrote that were meant to be journalistically sound. Here's where the opinion is right here on whatever politics or whatever, you know, the shit stain takes off into the sky on pointing out in sports to people that the size of difference between the liberal media person and the average sports fan is larger than the size of the average media person in America and the average journalist by leaps and bounds. And in sports you will find this anti black, anti gay, anti women. You'll find it more in sports proportionally. And other audiences are now feeding on that in communities where they can do this stuff like yell about DEI and then do the gender politics stuff that can allow trans people to be killed at a disproportionate rate and be good with it. We had two minutes on SportsCenter and after we did this for about a year and the focus groups came back, clearly we don't want that. We don't like that. I want. When my opinion is also expressed by somebody, I want two people talking about that idea, not one person telling me what their idea is. And so then from there, all the things that are more inclusive are birthed than Stephen A. Smith can become the star. He can going right, going left and be just super inclusive everywhere and become a giant wrestling star that could fight with the president in debate at the height of the stupidity of the sports debate. Where we, in sports, we're supposed to be leaders on this stuff. And I'm showing you a place where that stuff was actively said by the consumer. I don't want that. And then the people with the FU money comply because that's what all the corporations are going to do that have the F U money. And now they will bow in front of this money with Musk and Trump because they're scared of the way all of the mess can be wielded. Like, I can't unsee the way all of these corporations after George Floyd said all the right shit and I can't unsee the way it all went back to being exactly like it was with an even worse backlash. And now making the sports argument, it's not even Kaepernick anymore. It's this garbage. Like it's just nonsense. We're really, we're going to argue whether Jackie Robinson was historically relevant because of race. Like we're going to make it so stupid that you just can't have a conversation about it, that no one's changing their minds about everything. We're just going to be fighting till the end of time until we blow each other up.
Billy Gill
I mean, it's the death of expertise, right? Like that's kind of what's happened this century is no one cares to listen to someone who has researched or studied or has become an expert on whatever their topic is. They want to hear both sides of the conversation. It's why we let Mike Ryan talk about the Heat when I'm talking about the Heat, because people want to hear the uneducated side when there's an expert right here who could tell you everything.
Jeremy Tache
That'S happening factually cleansing the palate here.
Dan Le Batard
Well, to be fair, we were cleansing the palate with the cute little oyster glove. And then Dan was like, what about the Heat's Women in Sports Day?
Billy Gill
Yeah, I tried to make a joke about finding the baseball. You get it, Dan, because of the spot that it is in the oyster. You get it.
Mike Ryan
No, Jeremy, the.
Dan Le Batard
I can't see it either.
Mike Ryan
The humor is so high brow, it.
Billy Gill
Was lost on you.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
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Stugotz
Don't let him fool you. He said in the break that he's jittery. This is the D? Ler show with the st. You want a behind the scenes.
Mike Ryan
Yes.
Stugotz
So, so we're doing this March Sadness tournament that's going on and the fans love it. It's so we're doing March Sadness and one of the video submissions was a new character, but the file got corrupted before this person could make it into March Sadness. So I don't know if you're aware, but we have this character Zazzle called Misogynistic Bane, who makes appearances from time to time.
Chris Cote
Okay.
Stugotz
And we had a fan who created a character that was feminist Darth Vader, and it was an incredible character where Darth Vader would come out and be praising Caitlin Clark. And then when we tried to submit it and put it into the system, the file got corrupted and then it couldn't be tracked down so if you're out there, feminist Darth Vader, feel free to reach out and send us more videos. Or if there's a lot of fake feminist Darth Vaders out there who now want to run with this idea, I have no way of knowing which one the real one of you was. So feel free to send in all of your feminist Darth Vader videos and we'll be sure to try to include them in the show moving forward.
Mike Ryan
I don't know what the reaction is and I don't want to know what the reaction is. Can we just give a brief update on some of the advancers? Can we just play some of the advancers? And I'd like to start a different tournament right now just to make this a little messier. So.
Stugotz
Well, so this is what, this is what we can do. So we've been putting out the we've been putting out some of the the competitions against each other and we have two of the the competitions that were going against each other to the games that fans could vote on to see which fan moves on to the next round. So the first round it was tell us why you should watch a game with Dan or tell us why you're the biggest fan of the show. There was some confusion there. Then the next one was tell us some of your favorite show moments. And then the fans go on and they vote for who it is that they want to advance. So here are two of the matchups that we have. We're down to our sweet 16 now. Things are getting serious. This Thursday and Friday we're going to have our Sweet 16 matchups. And then Saturday and Sunday is our Elite 8. Things are winding down very quickly here. And one of the things that we found in the past when we would have looks like which fans didn't really like that tournament, but when we had the looks like tournament or we'd have some of the other tournaments, it would be the same thing over and over again. So there was a fatigue and you kind of knew the number one seed. You know exactly what you're going to get every time it gets played. It's the same thing. In this tournament. They're submitting new videos with new prompts every single round. So you could very easily have an off round and the number one seed gets bounced. In fact, I don't want to spoil anything. For those of you who are catching up on March sadness on Twitter or whatever, who are going back and watching them and following along not in real time, we all know Wednesday is Spoiler Wednesday on Wednesday. Zazzo, you don't know this. Unfortunately, you won't be here this Wednesday. Wednesday. Spoiler Wednesday. That's the day we can talk about the Sunday shows. So I'm not going to spoil what happened in March 7th.
Mike Ryan
It's a wild Billy Wednesday, which is strange to me that we're putting some.
Stugotz
Rules in Wild Billy Spoiler Wednesday. Well, the wild thing is we come and we spoil shows. But they've had four days to watch the show at that point in time. The point being some of the. Some of the heavyweights that we thought were going to go far in the first round had a dud of a second round and have been bounced. And I need to check my scorecard. I believe there's only one number one seed left in this tournament at this point.
Mike Ryan
Well, let's just. Just get me updated here. Get.
Stugotz
All right, so here's two of our matchups here. We're gonna head over to Region 4 for one of our matchups.
Mike Ryan
Who the hell is Tony?
Billy Gill
Spitting facts. Stuff we cannot look at yet.
Mike Ryan
Mike Ryan.
Billy Gill
Don't know where he's at. Oh, he's broken now. Tripping on the couch.
Mike Ryan
Ouch.
Billy Gill
Falling to the board for Steve Corn hack. That was amazing.
Mike Ryan
My favorite moment was the arrival of people and his pure passion for the U. But I'm in this tournament for one reason. To make it to Miami and collect a debt. Greg, you flip flop more than a Hialeah Chinclayta. You're so crooked. I feel like your next career stop will be the mayor of Miami. I mean, your last article that got clicks came from stabbing your best friend in the back. Cody, pay your bets. You're no journalist. You're a con artist. E to sabe. Whoa.
Stugotz
Well, I have a conundrum that I found myself. Was the first one Jeremy. The first one actually did a Jeremy cover on the first round, and he did the Pink Pony club, and he was dressed as a unicorn, and he won in advance. And this round, spoiler alert. Brad the Bard was a eliminated. Brandon threatening. Cody has moved on. Now, here is kind of something that we might have been worried about. And if I'm gonna be truthful in our selection committee, which is me and Coogler, we went through the videos, and there were certain people that we said there might be a red flag here. Like, this might be.
Mike Ryan
This might.
Stugotz
This might potentially be something that Frankie's gonna have to intervene on. Frankie's our security guard, as everybody knows. So here's the thing. Brandon now has advanced in breed. Brad the Bard And Brandon apparently made some sort of bet with Greg Cody in Las Vegas when we were there at the super bowl and his first video, he was saying he's trying. He's found a workaround where if he wins this tournament, he comes down to Miami and he intends to collect on this bet with Greg Cody. And truth be told, I think it was a 16 seed. So I thought, brandon's not going to move on. Like, it's fine. We can. And then Brandon moved on and upset a number one seed, and now Brandon, as a 16 seed, has now eliminated a number eight seed. And apparently these threats to Greg Cody are a thread that are going to continue throughout these rounds. So I'm now starting to wonder what this bet was, because I have absolutely no frame of reference, why it is that he keeps lightly threatening Greg Cody and if we will be responsible if he actually wins and comes through to deliver on said threat of making Greg pay off this bet.
Chris Cote
So no one's asked Greg what the bet is?
Stugotz
No. And he's on a cruise now. So, I mean, we may. We may find a situation where he's in the final four, and we don't know if we're going to be flying a crazy person down to maybe beat up Greg. And I know you would hate that, Zaslow.
Chris Cote
Well, listen, this is not something I actively think about, all right? You guys like to think that I'm sitting around, you know, twiddling my fingers and coming up with a plan to take down Greg Cody. I don't think about Greg Cody. I don't know what to tell you.
Stugotz
Well, we will worry about Brandon and his threatening of Greg Cody if we need to next round or the round after that.
Chris Cote
What about Dan, though? Dan's got to watch the game with these people.
Stugotz
It's safe the first round. We'll be safe the first. And he doesn't have a bone to pick with Dan. It's really Greg. He has a problem. So we're fine. We're fine. If you want, we can preview another matchup of Region 4. Now, this is one of those situations where number five, Alvaro, was very strong in the first round, and I thought Alvaro might go on a deep run. And then Brandon, number 13, who in the first round told us about his dead dad. Round two told us about his potentially dead dog, and he may have sprung an upset here. Here's the matchup.
Mike Ryan
Take 19. Favorite show moment. Wow. So many to choose from. Like the old saying goes, en la mana se come e ros Porque escoba tiene miedo which of course we all know means that time that Greg Cody revealed dance engagement. That was crazy. Oh, how about that other time when estugots pen sol que yuno d Coso angra blanco hoy. Okay. Which of course we all know means hamburger with cheese. And tonight we are all butter. Oh, and Kevin Durant has no rings. Oh, and Levatar Durant. But not the Roberto Durang interview. Night. Night.
Stugotz
Hey, everyone. My favorite moment is when Dan told a story about his dead dog. He was shirtless, sobbing at a stoplight, holding his dead dog in his arms. A fan pulled up next to Dan at a stoplight, again as Dan's sobbing, holding his dead dog in his arms, and said, dan Levator, as a dog.
Billy Gill
Lover of my own, I could never.
Stugotz
Imagine something like that happening to me and my sweet boy. If you want to avoid more dead dogs, just vote for me.
Mike Ryan
So universal applause for the tournament.
Stugotz
Oh, the fans love this tournament.
Chris Cote
Am I the only one that wants to see what the other 18 takes were from Alvaro?
Mike Ryan
Yes.
Stugotz
You would have liked his first round submission. I think it was poetry.
Mike Ryan
Tell me whether I should. And we will continue with that tournament as well. But tell me whether you guys would like to partake in this as a tournament. Can we just put together, please? I'm just going to say an assortment of iconic sounds. Just iconic sounds. So if I'm gonna go, I'll go 16 through one here and just tell me if this is a tournament that you would like to do. Yes or no? We'll do it as quickly as we can. Number 16, is that an iconic sound?
Roy Bellamy
That is the intro to Back to the Future.
Chris Cote
Yes.
Mike Ryan
Okay, I'm sorry.
Chris Cote
How does that not put a smile on your face?
Stugotz
It was a 16.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, but I just didn't know that that was an iconic sound. Give me a 15. It's a much stronger 15 than 15. Than a 16. Right? That's. That's stronger.
Jeremy Tache
15 is an embarrassment for that, by the way. That's like a 4, 3, 2.
Dan Le Batard
They lost their conference tournament, so.
Mike Ryan
All right, hold on just a second. Hold on to this tournament, because I want to think about this for a second. I want to give some consideration to whether or not this is something I want to do going forward, because we can. It'd be pretty easy for us to come up with 68 great sounds.
Stugotz
Well, we have to decide pretty soon because the real tournament's halfway over.
Mike Ryan
Well, I want to throw this tournament at that tournament in the event that we don't want anything to be too perfect, too Universally applauded by the fan base.
Stugotz
Well, good news. We have a tournament that is not okay.
Mike Ryan
Well, I'm glad that. Well, you just told me that I lied.
Stugotz
They hate this tournament, Billy.
Mike Ryan
Why?
Stugotz
I wanted to make you feel better about it.
Mike Ryan
No, I know. I know that, Billy. You think that I don't know that they would hate this tournament?
Stugotz
I don't know.
Mike Ryan
Okay.
Stugotz
I appreciate you saying I'm worried about your feelings. I don't want you to feel, you know, so if I have to come out here and fib a little bit until. Yeah, it's universally.
Mike Ryan
I'm not approved.
Stugotz
That's what I'll tell you.
Mike Ryan
I'm not mad at the lie. I am mad that I know that the fans aren't going to like us outsourcing our work to other fans to try to do our work.
Stugotz
Well, I have a spoiler alert.
Mike Ryan
Then give as a prize. Watch the game with Dan.
Stugotz
Well, that. Well, look, at some point, if we tell the story of how this happened, that was not supposed to be the prize. That's a whole nother thing. But I don't know if they're aware of this. The looks like tournament was completely outsourced to the fans. They came up with all of those. We weren't writing those. It was always outsourced to the fans. And if they think that watching hundreds of terrible videos is a lot easier than just reading Jim Laranega looks like he works at ihop, that's not exactly how it works.
Mike Ryan
Well, but see, this is. This is one of the wonderful criticisms that can come your way when you don't or we don't do something. Well, yes, there is great frustration. Great frustration in working your hardest to do something less good than something that was easier. Yes, that's correct. There's great frustration in that. Yeah, that's not a great situation to have to work a lot harder on something that becomes less good.
Billy Gill
Going back to the other tournament, I thought that that Back to the Future sound was the beginning of Springfield's favorite color. That was what I thought it sounded like.
Mike Ryan
So it wasn't. It wasn't as iconic a sound as I thought it was.
Roy Bellamy
16.
Mike Ryan
All right, let me go. Give me 14. Give me what would be a 14 and I in an iconic tournament sounds.
Billy Gill
That's a real low.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, that's low.
Mike Ryan
You've got a real big impression of yourself when that's the introduction you want to make.
Roy Bellamy
Bombastic.
Mike Ryan
I mean, just for all time, I want everyone to know when 20th Century Fox is walking into the room number 13.
Stugotz
EA Sports. It's in the game.
Jeremy Tache
Criminally.
Mike Ryan
Wow.
Stugotz
That's a good one.
Mike Ryan
Tournament.
Chris Cote
But you keep saying that. It's too low. But every sound we hear, they're all amazing.
Mike Ryan
Give me a 12. Give me an 11.
Chris Cote
That's too high.
Roy Bellamy
That's too high.
Chris Cote
Yeah. All the ones we've heard already are better than.
Billy Gill
What was that?
Roy Bellamy
That was Super Mario Brothers. When you get the extra life.
Jeremy Tache
1960.
Roy Bellamy
Crying out loud, man. Make us look old. Just make us look old.
Billy Gill
Tony.
Mike Ryan
That was a great retort. Ten.
Chris Cote
What's that from?
Jeremy Tache
That was better than EA Sports.
Mike Ryan
Okay, Guy, I. I got moved by the end of that.
Stugotz
Where?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, there.
Roy Bellamy
There.
Chris Cote
What do you think happened in the game?
Roy Bellamy
Somebody scored Scoreless.
Mike Ryan
Scoreless. Scoreless. Game went to penalty kicks. Number nine.
Chris Cote
I mean, everybody knows that's a one seed. Come on.
Mike Ryan
I don't know what that is.
Chris Cote
What?
Roy Bellamy
It's the pornhub intro.
Chris Cote
What? That's a number one overall.
Mike Ryan
That's a number one overall. I hear Ethan Badowski screaming through the walls that are. That are. That are soundproof. I hear him shouting. That's the number one.
Roy Bellamy
He knows all about that pony hub intro.
Billy Gill
I guess not in the state of Florida anymore, though.
Roy Bellamy
No, he's got an id.
Chris Cote
They're workarounds.
Mike Ryan
Number eight.
Roy Bellamy
That is from the Price Is Right, apparently.
Chris Cote
That's terrible.
Billy Gill
We should have reversed the order of this.
Mike Ryan
Well, we're doing it on the fly. Number seven.
Chris Cote
That's good. You know you're about to watch something good when you hear that.
Billy Gill
Yeah, that's worthy of its seat.
Jeremy Tache
The last couple, actually.
Mike Ryan
Number six.
Stugotz
What is that?
Roy Bellamy
That is the Wilhelm Scream. That is a very famous scream that you hear in the movies.
Chris Cote
It's not very famous if you have to tell us what it is, though.
Jeremy Tache
Who's. Who's Wilhelm?
Roy Bellamy
Apparently he was the guy that screamed Wilhelm.
Billy Gill
Very famous. Fourth member of the band.
Chris Cote
Don't know what it is.
Mike Ryan
Can you play that again, please? I don't. It's strange to me that I. That I don't know what these iconic sounds are. What? I don't.
Jeremy Tache
Sounds like Zaz a little bit.
Stugotz
Is Wilheim. Two names?
Roy Bellamy
No, it's his last name.
Stugotz
Oh.
Mike Ryan
I don't know what that is. Number five. Number four.
Billy Gill
Of course.
Jeremy Tache
Classic.
Mike Ryan
Number three. Billy. What do you. What do you mean?
Stugotz
It's more of a song. It's a little long.
Chris Cote
That's what I'm saying. I feel like that's a song.
Stugotz
Yeah. These are different categories. Sound effects and songs are different.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, it's the intro to a very famous HBO song. Yeah, I mean, so. So is the song from Back to the Future?
Stugotz
No, that's like the Titanic song. Is that a sound or a song? My Heart Will Go On. That's a song.
Roy Bellamy
No, that's a legitimate song.
Mike Ryan
Number two. Man, I feel once we get to number two and stuff that those. There are some other questionable ones in here in number 16. I. I think we could come up with a bunch of one seeds here. Number one. So, Billy, what are you refuting?
Stugotz
You're saying that's a sound?
Mike Ryan
The curb. Your enthusiasm has to go because it's a song and too long. Andres Cantor has to go because the gold call is too long.
Chris Cote
Still don't even know who Wilhelm is.
Dan Le Batard
If the goal sound is going to be there, we need a double bang in the one spot, I think.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
All right. I'm going to continue with this tournament. We will see what we put together and just throw at you.
Billy Gill
What about that lady from the local news when she fell doing the grapes.
Mike Ryan
And she goes, ow, ow, ow, ow. I think that might have been, like, one of the first things that we played again and again as a show 17 years ago. Whenever it happened on live television, I think like the next day. And it feels like something that feels to me when you tell that story. And we'll play this sound for those of you who haven't heard it, because I think of it as almost one of the first sounds we ever played that sort of spread. And I guess it wasn't pre social media, but it feels like it was about. It feels like it was really early in our show's history where a woman is crushing grapes with her feet on national television and she falls out of the grape bucket. And when she falls, something really hurts. Listen to the sound she makes when she hits the floor. She falls off a platform. She's like crushing grapes with her feet, but she slips. Falls right on her face. And this is what it sounds like.
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Tours and tastings, vineyard tours, seminars, arts and crafts.
Mike Ryan
It's a lot of fun.
Billy Gill
A whole day.
Mike Ryan
Stop.
I
Oh.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, oh.
Mike Ryan
Oh. Oh, oh, oh. Oh.
Stugotz
I can't.
Billy Gill
Ow, Ow, Ow.
Stugotz
Oh.
Mike Ryan
Stop. Oh.
Chris Cote
Stop.
Mike Ryan
Oh, I can't breathe.
I
Stop.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, no.
Stugotz
Oh, dear.
Billy Gill
I think she's actually hurt.
Mike Ryan
But look at my hair. Somebody get me a brush. Oh, dear. Let's go to a commercial. I had the wind knocked out of me when I was young and no one had explained to me what that is. And that is terrifying if it has not been explained to you. Trying to Grab your breath when you. When you've fallen out of a swing and fallen on your back and you don't know what it is to lose your breath.
Jeremy Tache
Damn. By the way, I was at my nephew's flag football game the other day, and I was reminded of you because I was looking at the coach on the other side, and I was like, oh, he doesn't know what he's doing. And then it made me think of you as the coach of the little league team. And I'm like, oh, I get it now. Dan had no idea. The problem is the coach couldn't stop the double reverse, so the kid would throw it one way and then the other way. They're five years old.
Dan Le Batard
Obviously, neither could Miami this year, to be fair.
Jeremy Tache
Also true. But then I would think of Dan, like. Like, what was it? You had the one play, and then all of a sudden when they stopped that one play, like it was over.
Mike Ryan
To be clear, the story that Tony is telling, and he just decided to look me dead in the eye and say, hey, Dan, I saw someone who didn't know what they were doing, and it made me think of you.
Jeremy Tache
Football in a football setting.
Mike Ryan
Of course, he was saying that sincerely. And I know exactly what he was talking about. When I was 15 years old, I was coaching an undefeated football team that was the only team in the league that had a quarterback who could throw and a receiver who could catch. And we wrote it to great glory until a coach stifled me in the championship game because his team had gotten a lot better. And I just had that one play. I didn't really, because I was 15 and I didn't know what I was doing. I was a very bad coach. So I'm glad, Tony, that the story that made you think of just total incompetence is watching somebody that didn't know.
Jeremy Tache
What they were doing couldn't stop the double reverse. I mean, you know, the kid's gonna throw it back to the other kid and go the other ways.
Mike Ryan
That's Zadzlo. There's a number of different things that I want to throw in front of the shipping container about you that I think are strange. Okay, shipping container. Is it or is it not strange to travel with a soap dish?
Stugotz
What?
Roy Bellamy
What soap dish?
Mike Ryan
A soap dish.
Jeremy Tache
Like a soap ashtray.
Mike Ryan
Is it not a. Not. No. Like in the shower? Yeah.
Jeremy Tache
Like where you put. Like it looks like an ashtray. You put the soap in it.
Mike Ryan
Right.
Chris Cote
And it's got a cover up.
Mike Ryan
Is it?
Dan Le Batard
Or a dish.
Mike Ryan
Is it or is it not?
Roy Bellamy
Oh, A travel.
Stugotz
Well, it sounds like a travel case that's different than a soap dish. Yeah, if he wants to travel with a bar of soap, what is he gonna do, Put it in a bag?
Chris Cote
Yes, I do.
Stugotz
Zephyr Hills man. Irish Springs.
Chris Cote
I don't care about the water.
Stugotz
Zephyrhills.
Chris Cote
Is water weird or not weird? Soap dish.
Roy Bellamy
No, that's not.
Billy Gill
That's.
Roy Bellamy
That's not weird.
Stugotz
Thank you.
Chris Cote
I like cleaning my body.
Jeremy Tache
Hotel gives you free ones, though, you know.
Mike Ryan
Wait, what?
Dan Le Batard
Of course this is weird.
Stugotz
Roy.
Dan Le Batard
What do you. Why would this not be weird?
Roy Bellamy
It's a travel case for the soap that you want to use.
Dan Le Batard
No, but the dish, like a ceramic dish.
Mike Ryan
I like.
Chris Cote
I have my bar of soap that I like using. I. I can't necessarily trust that the hotel has a bar of soap that is good for my skin.
Billy Gill
But let's clarify. So this is not you bringing, like, a little ceramic dish to put soap on. This is you having a travel case that's plastic that you can kind of snap it open and close with your own soap.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, that's.
Billy Gill
That's a little more normal. Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you, Dan. Not weird.
Billy Gill
Setup wasn't great. The bar of soap is weird.
Dan Le Batard
That's not a soap dish.
Stugotz
Also normal. You made it seem like a second ash.
Billy Gill
Come on, Dan.
Mike Ryan
When I was in the shower with zsas, I saw a soap dish. And you guys can call it whatever you want. He can hide with whatever his shames are here. He can say, I have a carrying case, and then all of a sudden, be met with your judgments and start changing what it looked like. That looked like a ceramic dish to.
Chris Cote
Me, but I was clean.
Dan Le Batard
Was it ceramic or not?
Mike Ryan
You were.
Stugotz
All right.
I
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Mike Ryan
Did you hear that? Yep.
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hour 1: A Bracket of Iconic Sounds
Release Date: March 24, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
The episode delves into the perceived deterioration of race-related discussions within sports and broader media landscapes. Mike Ryan initiates the conversation by expressing frustration over what he deems "unfathomably dumb" race conversations that have emerged over the past decade.
He criticizes figures like Mina Kimes and Stephen A. Smith for what he perceives as superficial or misdirected engagements with racial issues. Ryan highlights incidents where discussions about race devolve into senseless debates, detracting from meaningful progress.
A significant portion of the discussion centers around the term "color barrier," its historical context, and its relevance today. The hosts seek clarity on the origins and implications of the phrase, associating it primarily with Jackie Robinson's groundbreaking entry into Major League Baseball.
Mike Ryan underscores the importance of accurately understanding historical terms to avoid misrepresentation in current debates.
The conversation shifts to the media's handling of sports-related controversies, emphasizing a trend where genuine issues are overshadowed by sensationalist angles. Ryan criticizes how debates around DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) have been co-opted, leading to distractions from more profound societal challenges.
The hosts lament the loss of substantive discourse, arguing that the focus has shifted from meaningful conversations to battling over narratives that serve ulterior motives.
Billy Gill introduces a lighter segment discussing the Chesapeake Bay Sox's new affiliate name, the Chesapeake Oyster Catchers, and the unintended interpretations of their logo. While intended to represent a baseball glove catching an oyster, some viewers perceived it differently, sparking humorous debate among the hosts.
The team navigates the delicate balance between creative branding and public perception, ultimately highlighting the logo's charitable aspects tied to Women's History Month.
The hosts explore the intersection of sports and politics by discussing the Miami Heat's initiatives celebrating Women's History Month. While some applaud the efforts, others critique them as politically motivated, reflecting broader societal tensions.
Billy Gill defends the initiatives by emphasizing their intrinsic value beyond political agendas, advocating for the importance of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in fostering a robust and diverse workforce.
Shifting gears, Stugotz provides updates on the ongoing March Sadness tournament—a fan-driven bracket competition designed to engage listeners in voting on their favorite show moments and participants.
The tournament features various matchups, including unique fan-created content like the "feminist Darth Vader." The hosts discuss emerging tensions, such as threats made by contestant Brandon towards fellow host Greg Cody, adding an element of drama to the competition.
In an attempt to diversify the tournament format, Mike Ryan proposes an "Iconic Sounds" bracket, challenging the hosts to identify and rank memorable audio clips from pop culture. The segment is met with mixed reactions, leading to playful banter and debates over what constitutes an iconic sound.
The playful disagreement highlights the subjective nature of iconic sounds, with hosts like Roy Bellamy and Chris Cote expressing confusion and differing opinions on various sound clips presented.
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in humorous exchanges, including impersonations, storytelling, and audience interaction segments. A notable moment involves Mike Ryan recounting a personal story about coaching a youth football team, drawing parallels to current sports incompetencies.
These interactions serve to balance the episode's more serious discussions, providing listeners with a mix of insightful commentary and entertaining dialogue.
Mike Ryan [00:30]: "Controversy is one of the dumbest I've seen in my lifetime as we're supposed to be evolving this conversation."
Billy Gill [05:10]: "They called it the color line, but also referred to as the color barrier in American baseball..."
Dan Le Batard [10:20]: "It's political to celebrate women's inclusion in sports. It's political to have women included in the workforce in this country..."
Stugotz [24:13]: "Brandon, number 13, who in the first round told us about his dead dad... Now Brandon has advanced and is threatening Greg Cody."
Mike Ryan [28:23]: "I want to give some consideration to whether or not this is something I want to do going forward..."
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a deep dive into the complexities of race conversations in sports, the historical significance of the color barrier, and the evolving role of politics in sports initiatives. Coupled with engaging fan-driven tournaments and light-hearted segments, the hosts provide a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of contemporary sports and cultural dynamics.