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Greg Cody
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Billy Gil
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats Podcast.
Greg Cody
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Stugotz
Many years ago I was talking with Kevin Durant about being tall as a child and he said that as a fifth grader he used to pray that every evening that he could be shorter because kids, you know, want to fit in and he was being gawked at because he was tall and it felt awkward for him. About a year ago we talked about a Florida player, a player who had decided to go to Florida, Olivier rue, who was 7 foot 9 but wasn't one of the top 50 prospects in America. Even though he was 7 foot 9, he ended up going to Florida. Florida obviously is good enough to win the tournament this year. A very deep team. He's not playing for that team. But he was cutting the net the other day and there's video of him cutting the net without having to get on the ladder where he just reaches up there and cuts the net. He also, there's also of him on the team plane, a team plane filled with ostensibly other very large people. And he just looks very much bigger than everyone else. And sports is a great confidence builder for a number of people. Success in sports. But when I see someone of this height and think of all the things that are problematic, including just trying to take a shower in a hotel room, in just any hotel room in America, that person cannot take a shower or sleep in a bed. I imagine, I imagine a normal bed is not something that a 7 foot 9 person could sleep in. So when you add the combination of he's 79 and he's obviously a basketball player and anyone who talks to him or sees him is going to see him as a basketball player. But, but he's not a good basketball player because he can't move around very well at that height. I remember the stories about Andre the Giant and the pain that he was in. And it just. When I see someone of that height, it generally fills me with a sadness about the unknown because of. I imagine that person to be in a great deal of pain.
Chris Cote
Yeah. Because that's not just tall, that's freakishly tall. Right. Like if you're 66 or 6 7, you're really tall, you stand out. But it's sort of normal tall. When I see somebody 7 9, I feel bad for them and, and I, I thank the stars that I'm five nine, to be honest with you.
Greg Cody
I mean the stars you're thanking.
Chris Cote
Yeah. You know what I did the other day, Christopher? I think I've told you that I do this occasionally. There's a step stool in my garage. It's two steps so it's like this tall. Occasionally I stand on the step stool just to imagine how it would be to be 7ft tall. And it is so weird because your whole perspective changes. You are a different person. If you have a step stool, stand on it, put yourself in a seven footer shoes for just a minute.
Stugotz
I have never bet when you say 67 is a normal tall. I have legitimately never met a seven foot human being who's not a basketball player. I'VE never seen what one of those look like. Who doesn't play basketball in the wild anywhere?
Greg Cody
There's some guys like, I paint.
Stugotz
No, I do. Anywhere. I remember Amici said to me one time, because he's like, he was the first player in his country to make it to basketball. And the way that he started was so primitive in that the first basket that he played on, there was a wall right behind the basket. So there was no place to land on the other side of the basket. When he was playing, he said to me, there are plenty of seven foot people. Because I'm talking to him about, well, you had certain gifts being seven foot. And he's like, there are plenty of seven foot people who work at Subway. And I'm like, no, there aren't.
Dan Le Batard
You guys are just begging someone to talk about the Terry Rosier Osama should have hoop tweet.
Greg Cody
Right?
Dan Le Batard
You guys remember that one?
Stugotz
Go ahead.
Greg Cody
Just.
Dan Le Batard
He should have hooped. He's tall as hell. No one remembers that.
Greg Cody
So it's an all time NBA Twitter moment is Terry Rozier saying Osama bin Laden should have hooped instead, we mentioned that being. I joked that someone being tall could also be a painter. And we started talking back here. What are other jobs outside of basketball that being really tall would be beneficial? Because painting. Now, I don't need the ladder for this, you know, for the top of the ceiling here or maybe what else? Being tall would be helpful?
Stugotz
Fixing lights.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Electrician, maybe. Because then you can, you can fix lights while still standing up and not needing a step stool. A stock person at a store, At a grocery store. I can stock that top aisle now. Don't need the little step stool. See, there's other jobs they can do. It's not just basketball.
Chris Cote
Yeah. I think it's interesting though, because when you growing up extra tall, you're made fun of. Not always, obviously, but. But it's a common bullying technique if you're freakishly tall.
Greg Cody
I feel like as someone who grew up, you know, red hair, freckles, I dealt with some. That that's the child's play of the being. Like if you're being mocked for being tall, like, that's the best case scenario of all the things you could be picked on for. I feel like being tall. Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
I feel like Chris. Chris.
Chris Cote
Yeah.
Billy Gil
They deserve.
Dan Le Batard
I think, I feel like this is Chris's expertise.
Greg Cody
Yes, I know.
Dan Le Batard
Bullying as a ginger case.
Greg Cody
But.
Chris Cote
But Talked to Ron McGill about how he was bullied for being taller than everybody else growing up. Your mother, your mother Grew very quickly. She was like 5, 8 at age 13. It was terrible for her.
Greg Cody
And my mom's a ginger man. That must have been tough growing up for my mom.
Chris Cote
You should talk to her about that sometime. Seriously.
Stugotz
Okay. So Billy is informing me that as part of our March Sadness tournament that involves the fans of this show, that we have someone who's very tall, that he can't figure out whether that person is standing on a chair or so. Do we have rankings and seatings for these people who are in our tournament?
Billy Gil
We do. And they have been formed via email today that they have made the tournament and they've gotten the next prompt. So should they. Should the fans vote for them to make it to the next round? They have a deadline that has been set. They need to send their follow up video and then if they have moved on, we will have their video so that they can move forward. Now, our competition committee met and this is a 16 seed in one of the regions. And I'm gonna full disclosure here tell you that when we were talking, there was a number of criteria that were met. There was the quad wins, the quad losses, all of that. Right. But this one kind of got through, if I'm being completely honest with you, because we could not figure out if this man is just exceptionally tall or if he was standing on a chair the entire time.
Greg Cody
My name is Jordan and I think I should win the biggest fan award because I have been listening for over 12 years. So I get the show. I've actually visited Miami twice and I stayed at the Clevelander and at the Elser. So I'm definitely very invested in the Levitard show and number three, and most importantly, I'm a Minnesota sports fan, so I never win anything. My teams don't win any tournaments whatsoever. Dan is always talking about how the Vikings are frauds and the Wolves are going to get rid of Anthony Edwards. So it'd be nice to win something for once.
Billy Gil
I mean, you got the gist of it, but he said he's the biggest fan and his head is nearly hitting the ceiling. So we said, you know what, this is up for the fans to decide if this is actually the biggest fan or not. But he seems to be a giant, that man.
Dan Le Batard
Also, the Lynx have won four championships in the last like two decades.
Billy Gil
Well, he's a sexist, obviously.
Dan Le Batard
He could be in a tiny house.
Greg Cody
That's true.
Stugotz
He doesn't. He doesn't deserve to be in our tournament.
Billy Gil
Basically the 16. See, he's. Let's be real. He's Gonna be bouncing the first round because the number one seed against him is a monster.
Chris Cote
So wait, did.
Dan Le Batard
Did Greg see the video of the guy, the cameo that Greg was in? Because that should be a one seed. So if that guy is against really tall guy, the one seeds obviously is going to be a blowout.
Stugotz
We will get that in a moment and we will play that again for the audience that wasn't listening on Sunday night. Because Greg Cody enjoy. Enjoys nothing more than people who reference Greg Cody. So we will get to that in a second as soon as the video team gets to it. But Greg was wearing me out during the break because he was saying, hey, Dan. The West Virginia Attorney General is now involved. They're formally investigating everything that's happening with this North Carolina being allowed into the tournament.
Billy Gil
This is so much work and ways for them to get bounced in one game.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Also, James Comey was 6, 8. And people used to say he should have hooped, too. Wow. Lee and I will walk up and down, like, with our dog, like, up and down the trail and be like, wow, that person was like. When we see a tall person, we always say, should have hooped. And it's like a reference to that. And now, you know, if you guys were there, you wouldn't even understand it. But now you will.
Billy Gil
Do you think that tall people that are bad at basketball feel worse? Right. Because, like, there's just this assumption, like, you know what? Like, because I'm sure they get it all time. Oh, you should have played basketball. Yeah, but I can't because I'm unathletic and my body is a waste. Respectfully.
Chris Cote
Yeah. I'm sure there's been plenty of people who were tall and gave it a shot just because everyone was saying you should play basketball. But they tried and they were awful. Just terrible.
Stugotz
Greg Cody, your thoughts on the West Virginia Attorney General now summoning an investigation? Because I keep hearing it wasn't just L, it was also you. And you wore me out during the break saying that it should just be understood that if. If the school that you're competing against has that kind of history in basketball, all of the things being equal, including merit, you should be okay.
Chris Cote
Yes.
Stugotz
With North Carolina making the tournament. And it's the opinion of someone who doesn't actually care about the team being wronged, because if it was your team, nobody would be making the argument of, yeah, it's fine. It's not about this season. It's just about. And I'm with you on the idea that much of this is just for Television. And you have to understand that it's not about merit. It's about entertainment. But if it were my team, I'd be mad that it were about entertainment instead of merit. That's not supposed to be how it works in sports. So you. I'm sure everyone listening to this is, oh, West Virginia is being ridiculous with its governor and its attorney general. Except for people who care about the West Virginia program, and except for any of you who care about any program. And if it happened to you, you'd be this kind of mad as well.
Chris Cote
Yeah, but that outrage presumes that Virginia has a strong argument, which is extremely.
Stugotz
Not a strong argument, just a stronger one than North Carolina.
Chris Cote
It's extremely debatable on that. Okay. And television ratings do matter. Program heritage does matter. And North Carolina is incomparably higher than West Virginia. The analogy I use when we were talking off air is that if you're the College Football Playoff committee picking that 12th team and the choices are Alabama and Tulane, that's a no duh decision. All other things being equal.
Stugotz
Again, though, if Jessica's Notre Dame is wronged in that situation, or if Mike's Miami or Billy's FIU or Jeremy's ucf.
Dan Le Batard
Well, Mike's Miami was wronged in the women's bracket last year. They're the first team out, and they had a really. Some really, really bad losses last year. And it's a field of 68 teams, so it's like. It's a lot different than college football, where it's four teams and now it's 12 teams, and there's automatic bids and everything like that. But you're really arguing about a really, really small select number of teams. This is a lot of teams. There's obviously 31 automatic bids, but then there's a bunch of large bids over 30 of them. And it's like, okay. Like, it's.
Greg Cody
There's.
Dan Le Batard
You got to make some choices.
Chris Cote
Yeah.
Stugotz
Again, though, you guys don't care enough about that. Nobody here cares about West Virginia basketball.
Greg Cody
I think it's because they're mediocre. Right. Like, we're not talking about. Again, like, when we were talking about four teams for FSU or ucf. You're talking about undefeated teams that feel they've earned their way to be in a playoff. This is a field of 68. So we're talking about, you know, there are automatic qualifiers. So you're talking about what, the 44th and 45th best teams in the country, potentially. There's an understanding of, really, you're gonna have gripes over the the minutia when we're splitting hairs. 45 teams into this field. I understand March Madness's whole thing is anybody can win it because of these one game samples. But I mean, what are we really talking about here if you're the governor of West Virginia?
Dan Le Batard
Also, more people don't care about West Virginia basketball than do just statistically in the world. So we represent the majority.
Billy Gil
And they lost their last game that they. If had they won, they would have.
Stugotz
Been to a 3 and 17 team. But I would just say that in the era of gripes, you saying that the minority that feels wronged gets laughed at by the majority. It's why the minority ends up feeling even more alone with their wronged. Because no one cares about this enough except for a politician who's out here trying to grandstand.
Billy Gil
Yes, yes, he does not care about that team either.
Stugotz
Just cares about his constituency. And it's wise to care about that particular constituency. This is the easiest possible issue for a politician to get behind and summon his attorney general to help him with because the people. What are you shaking your head know about?
Chris Cote
It's just this patently ridiculous. Duncan agreed with me. It's beneath the office of the governor and the attorney general was appointed by the governor. So that's his puppet just moving like a marionette to whatever the governor says. It's just, it's a waste of taxpayer money. Like Jeremy said, you're Talking about the 68th spot in the tournament. It's not even worth any outrage whatsoever. Just grow up. Take, take defeat. You lost to a 317 team. Zip your lip.
Stugotz
Move on another a second. Zip your lip.
Chris Cote
Yeah, I don't say that nearly enough. Okay. And another thing is Somebody mentioned the 35th ranked education system in the United States. How about turn your attention to that and don't worry about the Mountaineers.
Billy Gil
There you go, Greg.
Stugotz
Okay, very good. Greg's got a lot of opinions. I want to get to most of them. I also want to get to updating our tournament, which we do in a second. But I wanted to put before you guys some information that I did not have. I did not know before yesterday. Sean Baker, the director of Anora that won so many Oscars and also the director of the Brutalist, whose name escapes me right now. Both of these people have said. This stunned me that the Hollywood film market and independent moviemaking has taken such a hit in the streaming age. The business of it has taken such a hit where DVD sales and money you can make after making A movie is no longer available. Both of them have said they're broke, that they didn't make any money on those movies. That the director of the Brutalist told Marc Maron, I made zero dollars making that movie. And Sean Baker is saying something very similar. I could not believe that the industry that independent movie making is in such peril that anora, which costs $6 million to make, is unable to pay Sean Baker what he believes is, never mind a decent wage for an obsessive project that requires a number of hours, but that you're talking about people who are struggling to get any kind of paycheck for exemplary work I did. I knew the moviemaking industry was in some peril. I knew it was hard to make independent films. I did not know that both people who had made the best film of the year would be saying, hey, zero dollars, or close to broke.
Billy Gil
But, like, when you do independent films, that's always kind of been how it works, right? Like, you never really make a ton of money off of independent movies. And if you're the director and you direct an independent film with such a claim, that's how you kind of get your name out there. And then you move on to less artful projects where you make the money. Like now he'll be doing a Spider man movie or something in the future, and he'll make $800 zillion dollars. And you know what? You sell out. But you make all your money. You made your art, you win your award, and then you go on and make all the money.
Dan Le Batard
Also, speaking of Hollywood, Vince Vaughn should have hooped. He's like 6, 5.
Stugotz
He's taller than that.
Dan Le Batard
Big guy.
Stugotz
He's taller than that.
Dan Le Batard
The Internet says 6 5.
Greg Cody
Christopher Lee also says, I was dwarfed.
Stugotz
Standing next to him. I felt small. I don't feel small around a whole lot of people. I was surprised by how tall he is.
Dan Le Batard
Jeff Goldblum, 6 4.
Greg Cody
Nicholas Braun is 6 foot 7.
Stugotz
I think you can do this on both ends. Find. You can shock us right now. You can shock the listening audience on both the high end and the low end by telling them some actors who are impossibly small and some who are larger than you think they are.
Billy Gil
Tom Cruise plays roles that are six foot six.
Stugotz
He's five foot.
Dan Le Batard
When you Google tallest actors, half of them are NBA players that have been in movies like Shaq and LeBron James. But then you also get a Ted Cassidy, who I believe Greg knows. Right, Greg? No, no, it was a different Cassidy we were talking about who that.
Stugotz
Okay, feel free to find both on the high end and the low end. The low end can be funnier.
Billy Gil
Old timey actor Uncle Phil was six five.
Chris Cote
Isn't what's his name, Dustin Hoffman really short?
Stugotz
Yes.
Chris Cote
Five, six, something like that.
Stugotz
Tiny.
Chris Cote
Five five, five, five.
Greg Cody
Jason Alexander, five five. Seth Green, five four. Patton Oswalt, five, three.
Stugotz
All of those. I'd like some that are surprisingly small because you think of them as taller.
Greg Cody
Al Pacino, five, six.
Stugotz
Well, you. There are pictures of Al Pacino and Robert De Niro walking around in like clogs and stuff and high heels on a set meant to make them look larger.
Dan Le Batard
And they'll same shoes right now, like literally this.
Chris Cote
Wow.
Stugotz
They will. They'll often find get actors who are similarly small to make them appear larger. There are any number. I think that Emilio Estevez is stunningly small. I think that you can find a number of actors that you will surprise the audience because they look on the screen like they're bigger. How tall is Tom Cruise? Is he. He's about 5, 6, is he not?
Greg Cody
Internet says 5 7, but I don't quite believe that I've stood next to Tom Cruise. One time at Blizzard beach in Orlando and I towered over him.
Chris Cote
Look at me.
Dan Le Batard
Wait, Tom Cruise was at Blizzard Beach?
Greg Cody
Yeah. This was right after. Right after the divorce or as the divorce was being finalized. So he brought his daughter, who was like a little kid at the time, to Blizzard beach and was walking through. I was there with the camp that I'm volunteering for. I was talking to one of the counselors and he looked right past me as if he had seen a ghost. So I turned to my right and I was like, who's this short guy? Doesn't matter. I turned back and then I looked and it's Tom Cruise. And then all of a sudden, because he realized that we noticed him, he starts speeding up and he's dragging his daughter along. And then I realized there's a security detail behind him. And they all ran up and we tried to throw a Camp Fiesta bracelet at him and tell him, hey, there's this camp and it's really cool. And then we lied to everybody at the camp and told them that we actually talked to Tom Cruise, but we only told one person. And then by the time we got back to the base where everybody was hanging out at camp, all 80 people at the camp thought that we had met Tom Cruise. We kept that lie going for like five years. It was really awesome.
Dan Le Batard
You lied to kids with cancer?
Greg Cody
I lied to the counselors who used to have cancer. Danny Trejo 56 Big difference.
Billy Gil
Verne Troyer 2 8.
Greg Cody
They lied to the kids with cancer.
Stugotz
Jeremy put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Are you surprised that Danny Trejo is only 58 here? 56 oh 5 6.
Dan Le Batard
Also Brady Corbett, you would have made more money if the brutalist was actually good, which it wasn't.
Stugotz
So wow.
Greg Cody
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Chris Cote
Shopify.comlebatard he called me on my own podcast. He called me full of shit, claiming that I'm faking interest in the solar eclipse.
Greg Cody
You do do this. You love to just get excited about everything.
Chris Cote
Okay, junior Stugats. I had to school you and explain.
Greg Cody
To you he was going to take you to Augusta.
Chris Cote
I mean, when I was 17 years old, Alan Sherry and I used to haunt the Bueller Planetarium.
Billy Gil
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
Stugotz
Let's, let's play for Greg Cody. What promises to be, or I'm assuming already is, a number one seed in this tournament. And just, just please put in picture, in picture, the look on Greg Cody's face so you can see how radiant he will get at any mention of his name or any reference that is anywhere near him.
Greg Cody
Why do I deserve the crown for this year's March sadness? Well, if I've learned anything watching the show, it's always side with Greg Cody. So I spent a lot of money on Cameo for this endorsement. I hope you like it. Who needs me? It's the manager of the Lobos. Just want to support this guy because he gave me money through Cameo. And I do want to say in all seriousness, back in my day, we used to take our ally Dan Stu.
Billy Gil
And Greg Cody on espn.
Stugotz
Billy, how many more tournament teams do you want to unveil to the audience? Have you, you. You have already got the 68 videos. You've organized them?
Billy Gil
Yeah, we've, we've organized, we've ranked and we've informed the, the 64 teams that made the tournament so they'll know and fan voting will start. I believe we're trying to go along Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday 64, not 68. Well yeah, because then we'd have to add an extra round. Dan, you don't want to know the logistics of this whole thing, trust me.
Stugotz
I really don't and it's one of the rare instances when I do trust you.
Billy Gil
Anywho so. So here's another one of our submissions. I'm not gonna tell you the number the or the rankings but this is another submission to the tournament. When again was asked why should you watch a game with Dan?
Chris Cote
Dan is talking to Vince Wilfar today.
Greg Cody
So many think that it was the.
Chris Cote
Same Then he asks about his wife Bianca.
Greg Cody
I just got a brand new wife tonight. Don't ask me about my old wife tonight. Try to stop Dan's face from reddening.
Chris Cote
The silence from Will Fork is dead.
Greg Cody
In danger's made out of hands out of himself. I love him.
Stugotz
I still hear the echoing laughter of Vince Wilfork and his new wife in the New Orleans airport outside of the bathroom when they saw me.
Billy Gil
So if you'd like we have another one here. Again the question was why should you watch the game with Dan or why are you the show's biggest fan? And here is another submission.
Stugotz
You and me, Daniel. Talking about your great turn on phrases or even your fantastic popcorn. We can talk about how the band corn popped back in 1999. 99. How the media game has changed since then. Media me dia my day. Back in my day getting your jersey retired meant something. Retired. Reed tired. Is Eric Reed tired of Greg Cody? Trying to make fun of him him him. Like why they sing in churches or cathedrals.
Greg Cody
The cathedral of sports. What journalists I'm trying to save running around like freaks on a leash the.
Stugotz
Song that topped home well written. Wow, nice.
Greg Cody
A poet.
Dan Le Batard
I need to text Charlie Kravitz right now.
Stugotz
Greg, how do you feel? Because you are. You've got a number of different opinions here today that we have not yet gotten to. And I'd like to spin the wheel of Greg Cody issues if you guys don't mind. I'd like to spin the wheel right now And I will tell you what it is that's on the wheel. We've got Tommy John is on the wheel. The NIT tournament. Aaron Rodgers is on the wheel. Let's see what it lands on. What did it land on Greg?
Chris Cote
Oh, I get to pick. I would think someone read it off.
Stugotz
The wheel The Wheel.
Greg Cody
Look at the wheel.
Stugotz
The wheel.
Greg Cody
And pick the thing and land it.
Stugotz
You gotta pick.
Chris Cote
Oh, right. Okay. I think nit. It landed on nit.
Stugotz
You think so?
Dan Le Batard
Or smooth.
Chris Cote
It was wavering. And then you know, the paddle. And then it went over at the last second. The NIT tournament and the other pretender tournaments. There's even a new one. I think there's three now. But the NIT and those people, they need to disappear. Okay, 68 teams is enough. Everything else is a leftover. If you win the NIT tournament, don't cut a net. Don't act all happy about winning that trophy. It doesn't matter. You're leftovers. 68 teams is enough. All the other tournaments should be disbanded. I really believe that. And if I were a self respecting head coach who missed out on the NCAA tournament, I wouldn't accept a bid. I would tell my players we weren't good enough. We didn't make the only tournament that matters.
Greg Cody
They make money off of going.
Chris Cote
I know they do. And money drives everything, unfortunately. And now we're so mad for content, we're so desperate for content that there's always going to be a market for the secondary tournament and the third tournament and the fourth tournament. It's like giving out a, a ribbon for finishing last in a race. You don't deserve it. You didn't make the NCAA tournament. You've had a less than successful season. Let it be.
Greg Cody
How many years in a row have you done this? Just this take.
Chris Cote
I mean it's a, it's a take up. Believed in for a long time. You know, I didn't pick it. I mean the wheel picked it.
Stugotz
It. You are against the NIT in a way that's most, that's strongest among all media members. And I can't wait until the governor of West Virginia and the Attorney General are invited to West Virginia winning the NIT tournament and celebrating it with their local politicians.
Billy Gil
Did you guys see that? There was a controversy with South Alabama over the weekend. Weekend. Okay, so what happened was, is UC Riverside had committed to being in the CBI tournament, which is a third tournament. So therefore they were left out of the NIT tournament because of their commitment to the CBI tournament. So because UC Riverside had already committed to that tournament, the NIT needed another school. So they invited South Alabama to participate in the NIT tournament. Now what happened was UC Riverside was then able to get out of their commitment to the CBI tournament. So the NIT tournament rescinded their invitation to South Alabama after inviting them and Informing the players that they would be part of the NIT tournament.
Chris Cote
I'm telling you what, it's a nightmare. It's a landscape on fire. The NIT used to be. Used to have that lane to itself, right? The NIT was the also ran tournament. There was no competition. And now there's the one you mentioned. There's a new tournament. There's at least three and perhaps four, you know, big level tournaments now competing. And so the NIT is getting us back up. The NIT saying hey, we were the. The also ran tournament for a long time. Didn't have any competition. Now we have other made up tournaments competing for our also ran teams. It's ridiculous.
Greg Cody
And the CBI is different than the cbc, right, which is the college basketball crown. That's another tournament happening in Vegas.
Billy Gil
Too many tournaments and the CDC is the center for disease Control.
Dan Le Batard
Also the NAT used to be the premier tournament. Right. Like back in the 50s before the NCAA took over the NXT and that that's. It was very prestigious to play in the nit.
Chris Cote
Yeah, the nit. Call it the knot.
Stugotz
N O T spin the wheel again.
Dan Le Batard
In my cap was the manager of Duquesne. They won the nit, I believe.
Stugotz
What did it land on there, Greg?
Chris Cote
Oh, wow. I am thrilled by this getting to talk about Tommy John. Tommy John is known for two things, surgery and underwear. Okay, Tommy, Tommy.
Stugotz
And 288 wins.
Chris Cote
Tommy John, way to step on my punchline. Tommy John surgery.
Stugotz
How could I have known what your punchline.
Chris Cote
It's like Garrett Cole, you know, Tommy John surgery. A couple of things. Number one, Tommy John did an interview. He's 81 years old, still alive, God bless him. He did an interview with AARP magazine a couple of years ago. He's against Tommy John surgery, which they named after him because Frank Jobe, the surgeon, you know, wanted to give it a name that people would remember. Tommy John rightly thinks that there's too many Tommy John surgeries now. They're too routine and they're. And the majority, like 60% of Tommy John surgeries are to high school age pitchers. He's against that. And I think he's got a point.
Greg Cody
The other thing is he's against their arms getting hurt. He's against his name being associated with it.
Chris Cote
He's against too many surgeries. He's against. Against the surgery named after him being.
Greg Cody
Play through the pain. Well, no, he's saying probably if you're a high school kid and you might need UCL surgery that it might not be worth it for you to go through that surgery is what I imagine he's saying. Because of the thousands upon thousands of high school kids getting reconstructive surgery with Tommy John, I would imagine five of them maybe make it to even professional, let alone the big leagues.
Chris Cote
You're 100% right. He's certainly not saying play through the pace campaign, which is ridiculous. Tommy John underwear comes out and poor Tommy John, he's like, he's thinking of suing Tommy John underwear, which is unaffiliated with him, only to find out that he couldn't afford the lawyer in that case. But as LeBatard mentioned, stepping on my punchline, Tommy John, and take it from a baseball hall of Fame voter, Tommy John deserves to make the hall of Fame. The only other pitcher in since 1900 with that many pitching wins not to be in the hall of Fame is Roger Clemens because of steroids. So Tommy John is Hall of Fame worthy on just about every level. His career ERA is like 3.3, which is really, really good. So instead of just knowing him for surgery and underwear, put this man in the hall of Fame while he's still alive.
Stugotz
Did you guys notice? I don't know if this story is something that has gotten traction or if it's something that' happening outside of South Florida, but my wife was very confused recently because it is taking her months to try and get a DMV appointment. That one of the things that's happening with all of the chaos in some American systems failing and you know, the government being actively broken, the DMV is not functioning correctly. But now people have done some reporting to find out what's happening there. The appointments, the free appointments are being booked by people who are affiliated with like the driver's school or the traffic school and then the appointments are being scalped. If you want to get a free appointment at the dmv, you have to pay someone who is hogging the appointments because there are scalpers who are, who are taking the DMV appointments and then putting them on the secondary market time so that you have to pay for them.
Dan Le Batard
Genuinely, it's insane. And if you have to go to the DMV in Miami, good luck. Lehman drove to Vero beach twice last year to get his car registered. That's like 150 mile drive both ways.
Greg Cody
Wild bills from.
Dan Le Batard
We could not get an appointment at the DMV here. It's crazy.
Stugotz
I just did not have a circumstance in any scenario non apocalyptic where DMV would be something that I have to pay for because People are scalping DMV reservations. Is that only because we are a corrupt banana republic or is this happening throughout the country with dmv?
Billy Gil
Well, you can also just wait like three weeks. Like you just make the appointment and you wait.
Dan Le Batard
No, no, like no appointments.
Billy Gil
I, I, I drove to the Keys when I needed to renew my passport. Made a day out of it.
Dan Le Batard
But like if you go to the one at like Magic City, it's, you can't get an appointment. Like the last time I tried, which was like two or three years ago.
Billy Gil
You guys need to know a person complete.
Dan Le Batard
Exactly.
Billy Gil
You know a person, then they tell you which one you go to. And you go to like someone. It's, you know, you drive like 25 minutes in there. It's next to like a post office. You go in and out.
Dan Le Batard
Can't do that. Cuz they have work and they can't be like out standing in a line at 4am to get into the DMV, just get their license renewed.
Chris Cote
You know, it's, it's too bad Dan's wife doesn't know anybody really important who could like make a phone call and sort of circumvent some of these or.
Stugotz
Can'T afford $25 to get the reservation or is making some sort of principled stand about not. But it's taken months, Billy. It ain't a week's thing. It's not waiting for weeks, it's. She can't get an appointment for many months.
Greg Cody
The Miami Dade tax collector is named Dariel Fernandez. And Fernandez said in a statement that in the three weeks since their office opened up in downtown Miami, a suspected 200 appointments came through with suspected scalpers. I mean in three weeks, 200 of the appointments they think have been booked by these people who are reselling them for. Can we just, can we just start everything over? Can we just press a. I mean this just, this is the end of all of society, right?
Stugotz
This is going, the tickets are going or the reservations are going for anywhere from $25 to 200.
Greg Cody
Yeah, let's just end it.
Chris Cote
Yeah, it should be against the law, scalping government access like that. It really should be. But, but the secondary market changed the music concert industry. When I was growing up, you'd wait, literally wait in line overnight to get a Rolling Stones ticket as soon as they went on sale. Now, you know, there you can barely get one and you end up having to pay a lot more on the secondary market. Right.
Stugotz
Let me spin the wheel real quick here, one last time here. See if we can Get Greg Cody's. What does it say there, Greg?
Chris Cote
Okay. I had to wait because it was wavering. Aaron Rodgers, still unsigned. He's holding the NFL hostage. He's going to wind up with the Giants or the Steelers. Some people still want to float that Minnesota Vikings, namely him. Well, he does, but they're committed to J.J. mcCarthy, assuming he's completely healthy from what kept him out all last year as a rookie. But it does make you wonder, though, that if the Steelers, if Aaron Rodgers has been. Is good enough for the Steelers and the Giants, why wasn't he good enough for the Jets? Is Justin Fields better? I think that's, that's something in retrospect that you can ask. But Aaron Rodgers, he's on fumes, but he's still a big name. And if he goes to the Giants, I think that's where he needs to be. You know, do for the Giants what he never could do for the Jets. His ego needs the big city. So it's at his age, 41, 42, he's still a major player in this league.
Stugotz
Who's he holding hostage?
Chris Cote
He's holding the teams hostage that Pittsburgh and the Giants make a decision already. Make a decision. They need to move on before the draft's right around the corner. Make a decision so that the team you don't pick can move on.
Stugotz
Why wouldn't he just try and wait out the preferred option of Minnesota? Why would he? So he can stop inconveniencing you. And you can, because you're accusing him. You care so much about the Giants and the Steelers being held hostage that you think he should choose one of those lesser preferred scenarios to the one he prefers to satiate you.
Chris Cote
No, no. When I say he's holding hostage, he's holding the two teams that really, really want him. They need to move on. They need to get another quarterback if he's going to say no. And all the quarter. Most of the quarterback options are gone now.
Stugotz
But why does he owe them anything? He's trying to get the best spot for him and the best spots are.
Chris Cote
Available for him now, and they were two weeks ago. There's only. I said on this air a couple of weeks ago, the options for him are dwindling. And now it's down to two or three if you believe the. The fibs about the Vikings. So make a decision already.
Stugotz
So you have them being fibs. You have them being fibs. Vikings fibs.
Chris Cote
It is being reported by people I trust that the Vikings are committed to JJ McCarthy and we all know that Aaron Rodgers isn't going anywhere as a backup. Right. And so make your decision already.
Stugotz
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Chris Cote
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Greg Cody
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Chris Cote
We have 1993 minutes of pure cinema building up the kid legend Benny the.
Greg Cody
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Stugotz
Very anti climatic.
Chris Cote
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Stugotz
With the eye black cross.
Chris Cote
Then you wear for me. To it. To it. To it.
Greg Cody
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Billy Gil
My hot take is we should not.
Greg Cody
Be able to get speeding tickets from cameras.
Billy Gil
Police officers should have to catch us.
Greg Cody
Breaking the law in order to give me a ticket. I'll hang up and listen.
Chris Cote
I want more. Jim Laranega. This is B.
Greg Cody
Green.
Chris Cote
First time, Last time. And this is my limited fake Patrick Warburton as Joe from Family Guy.
Stugotz
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Chris Cote
What do you mean break party?
Dan Le Batard
All right, I know I gotta do.
Greg Cody
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Dan Le Batard
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Chris Cote
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Greg Cody
In fact, I use their thick it.
Dan Le Batard
Stick it brow gel every single day.
Greg Cody
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Chris Cote
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Greg Cody
I heard the angels sing.
Dan Le Batard
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Greg Cody
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Dan Le Batard
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Greg Cody
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Dan Le Batard
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Greg Cody
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Dan Le Batard
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Greg Cody
I'm usually a matte lip gloss kind of gal.
Stugotz
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Greg Cody
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Dan Le Batard
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Chris Cote
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Dan Le Batard
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Greg Cody
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Chris Cote
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz — Hour 1: A Second Greg Cote "Zip Your Lip"
Release Date: March 18, 2025
Welcome to a comprehensive summary of Hour 1: A Second Greg Cote "Zip Your Lip" from The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz. Hosted by Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, this episode delves into a variety of engaging topics, including the unique challenges of extreme height in sports and everyday life, the complexities of tournament selections in March Madness, the struggles within the independent filmmaking industry, intriguing anecdotes about actors’ heights, the growing issue of DMV appointment scalping, and the ongoing saga of Aaron Rodgers' free agency. Below, each segment is broken down with key discussions, notable quotes, and timestamps for easy navigation.
Stugotz initiates a deep dive into the challenges faced by exceptionally tall individuals, using basketball as a primary example. He reflects on conversations with Kevin Durant about the social and physical difficulties of being exceptionally tall. The discussion extends to a Florida basketball player, Olivier Rue, who stands at an astounding 7 feet 9 inches but faces everyday inconveniences due to his height.
Chris Cote echoes these sentiments, expressing gratitude for his average height compared to someone towering at 7 feet 9 inches.
The conversation explores the rarity of seven-foot individuals outside of basketball, leading to a broader discussion on alternative careers where height could be advantageous, such as painting, electrician work, or stock personnel roles.
The hosts transition to discussing their March Sadness tournament, a playful take on the frustrations surrounding tournament selections. Billy Gil explains the challenges of determining qualifications, humorously questioning whether a notably tall participant is genuinely tall or just standing on a chair.
The debate intensifies around the involvement of the West Virginia Attorney General in contesting North Carolina's inclusion in the tournament. Chris Cote vehemently opposes the intervention, arguing that it undermines the integrity of the tournament selection process.
The discussion highlights the misconception that television ratings and program heritage significantly influence tournament selections over merit, leading to frustration among fans of less favored teams.
Stugotz shifts the conversation to the dire state of independent filmmaking, citing statements from directors Sean Baker and the director of The Brutalist. Both directors express financial struggles despite critical acclaim, revealing the unsustainable nature of independent film production in the streaming era.
Billy Gil adds that while independent films rarely yield significant profits, they serve as vital platforms for emerging talent to showcase their work and transition to more profitable projects.
The conversation takes a lighter turn as the hosts delve into the actual heights of various actors, debunking common misconceptions. Greg Cody shares a personal story about interacting with Tom Cruise at Blizzard Beach in Orlando, humorously recounting how Cruise's height compared to his own led to a memorable encounter.
Stugotz and Cote discuss the discrepancies between actors' reported heights and their real-life stature, emphasizing how industry practices like shoe choices and wardrobe can distort public perception.
Stugotz brings attention to the growing problem of DMV appointment scalping, where individuals exploit the system by booking and reselling free DMV appointments for significant profits. This issue has led to prolonged wait times and frustration among citizens attempting to secure necessary services.
Dan Le Batard shares personal anecdotes about the difficulty in securing DMV appointments in Miami, highlighting the systemic inefficiencies and corruption that exacerbate the problem.
The hosts critique the government's failure to address this issue, likening it to a "corrupt banana republic" and calling for stricter regulations to prevent appointment reselling.
Chris Cote and Greg Cody engage in a heated discussion about Aaron Rodgers' free agency status, accusing him of "holding teams hostage" by delaying his decision between major NFL franchises like the Giants and the Steelers. Cote criticizes Rodgers for not committing promptly, suggesting that his indecisiveness forces teams into precarious positions.
Stugotz counters by questioning why Rodgers feels obligated to cater to team preferences over his own, emphasizing that Rodgers is merely pursuing what he believes is best for his career.
The debate underscores the complexities of athlete agency in professional sports and the impact of individual decisions on team dynamics.
Stugotz (02:04): "Sports is a great confidence builder... but when I see someone of this height and think of all the things that are problematic... I imagine that person to be in a great deal of pain."
Cote (04:25): "Because that's not just tall, that's freakishly tall... I thank the stars that I'm five nine."
Cote (16:08): "I think it's just being ridiculous... It's a waste of taxpayer money."
Cody (20:49): "One time at Blizzard beach in Orlando and I towered over him... we tried to throw a Camp Fiesta bracelet at him and tell him, hey, there's this camp and it's really cool."
Le Batard (37:07): "It's crazy... can't get an appointment at the DMV here."
Cote (40:53): "He's holding the teams hostage that Pittsburgh and the Giants make a decision already... make a decision so that the team you don't pick can move on."
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, listeners are treated to a wide-ranging discussion that interweaves personal anecdotes, critical analysis of sports and entertainment industries, and commentary on societal issues like DMV appointment scalping. The hosts provide insightful perspectives, often infused with humor and candid opinions, making for an engaging and thought-provoking listen. Whether debating the ethics of sports tournament selections or sharing behind-the-scenes stories about celebrities, Dan, Stugotz, Greg, Chris, and Billy offer a multifaceted exploration of contemporary topics that resonate with a broad audience.
For those who missed the episode, this summary captures the essence of the conversations and highlights the key moments that make The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz a must-listen for sports and pop culture enthusiasts alike.