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- [00:00]
Charles Barkley
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
- [00:11]
Dan LeBatard
Miami's playing a home game for the championship. Do you people have no sense of history what that means? Miami wins that game always. You've never seen this. This. This is Flamingo. How in holy hell am I living in a universe where the world has made miam overwhelming underdog to win a.
- [00:35]
Charles Barkley
Home game in Miami?
- [00:37]
Chris Cody
I understand why people are gassing Indiana up. They've been incredible. That stat where Mendoza has eight touchdowns and five inc. Incompletions. And the cheating part, right? I'm not. I'm not going there. But Miami's prepared.
- [00:50]
Dan LeBatard
Here's the play. Indiana cheat this.
- [00:53]
Charles Barkley
Trevenga right behind po Righto.
- [00:59]
Dan LeBatard
And yes, I've heard that Levitar whimpering right outside.
- [01:02]
Charles Barkley
Right outside.
- [01:02]
Dan LeBatard
No reven right up.
- [01:05]
Charles Barkley
Right up the middle.
- [01:06]
Dan LeBatard
It's going to be second and three all game. Dan's going to complain about the tush push over here, but he's going to love it when Those Canes get 8 yards because their offensive line is just throwing Fletcher 8 yards.
- [01:16]
Chris Cody
I was right about everything. There are two teams in this game. They're going to spot the ball and Mass is going to kick ass.
- [01:28]
Dan LeBatard
We've got a very skinny Charles Barkley there. He's half the man that he used to be. He loves himself some hockey. You guys want to show some footage again of Bobrovsky and the goalie fight from last night? Because a couple of times Charles has come down here to watch the Panthers win a championship. And I did not know that our friend had such an interest in hockey. Welcome, Charles. It's been too long since I've seen you.
- [01:52]
Charles Barkley
Hey man, you never called me and asked me to come on the show. You know I'll come on the show anytime you want me to.
- [01:57]
Dan LeBatard
Well, I appreciate that, but when you were in Miami for those Stanley cup finals, you did not come anywhere near where I was when I was looking for you.
- [02:09]
Charles Barkley
Cuz they play out and down. Is it sunrise?
- [02:12]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, it's. It's the Everglades.
- [02:14]
Charles Barkley
Hey, let me tell you something, man. That was so good last night. I didn't see the hockey fight till after the football game. I love that, Dan. And that. You know, people ask me why I love hockey so much. I see. Yo, man, they. They have a code of honor. You never have to worry about guys out here doing load management. They just want to win the Stanley Cup. Hey, who you kissing back there?
- [02:36]
Dan LeBatard
That's Jorge. Sedano is consoling.
- [02:39]
Charles Barkley
Hey, hey, Sedano. I don't call him Jorge because I'm not bilingual. What's up, Chuck? That was. Hey, what's up, brother? Hey, man, that was a hell of a game last night. I know.
- [02:52]
Dan LeBatard
I was there, man.
- [02:53]
Charles Barkley
It was a great game.
- [02:54]
Chris Cody
It was tough at the end for the folks down here, though.
- [02:57]
Charles Barkley
But yeah, you had a great year. Can I say you have a great year?
- [03:01]
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
- [03:03]
Charles Barkley
You know why? Because I don't want all these punk ass reporters and clowns talking bad about me like they did that lady in Jacksonville who had a moment of humanity, you know? Think about that, Dan. Jacksonville had a great year. They won four games last year. And we got so many punks on television and on radio now. Cause I don't get into the social media stuff, you know, Dan, I don't do social media. But I started looking and it was a big story brewing. I'm like, people are, is this woman serious? She's supposed to be a journalist. Have we got to the point now where you just have to be an idiot or a fool or a jackass to be on television or podcasts or something? Now you can't have. I can't tell the Hurricanes they had a great season.
- [03:57]
Dan LeBatard
You can. But I'm curious though, how this is going over at ESPN that you continue to call people who work there punks, idiots, fools and jackasses.
- [04:05]
Charles Barkley
Well, they can fire me. Hey, I got. Hey, Dan, I got seven years left.
- [04:16]
Dan LeBatard
On my contract and you said you were retiring.
- [04:19]
Charles Barkley
I am. So Listen, Dan, I'm 100% retired, but if I can do something just a little bit stupid. So they have to fire me. They'll have to pay me for the whole seven years.
- [04:37]
Dan LeBatard
That'll be fun to watch. Watch Chuck and the inside the NBA crew as part of NBA Saturday Primetime on ABC. This Saturday. This Saturday, January 24th.
- [04:47]
Charles Barkley
The Knicks were booed at home.
- [04:48]
Dan LeBatard
Were you often or ever booed at home?
- [04:50]
Charles Barkley
D played in Philadelphia. You know, I tell people, and I don't mean any disrespect to any other fan base. Boston, New York and Philly, they are different fan bases. They gonna hold you to a higher standard. I flicked over to check on that game last night. Cause I was trying to watch the football game, but I wanted to see the Pistons against the Celtics. And then I saw that. Wow, this took. Guy, they're down 30 at halftime. This is not gonna be good. I really didn't know anything about the boo, the booing until I was watching SportsCenter later. But damn, if you're down 30 at halftime, which there's Never. There's never excuse to be down 30 at halftime at home. You deserve to get booed.
- [05:41]
Dan LeBatard
How has the season been so far for you and the switch over, Chuck? You guys aren't on. As much as I would like to see you. Cause I can't get enough of that show. But you've said several times like, they're not going to work me to death. I'm not going to allow it at this age. So how's the transition been for you?
- [05:59]
Charles Barkley
It's been great. And Dan, we've complained. We've only been on espn, I think four times in three months. We did like the first two weeks. We were off all of December to Christmas and we're off until all of January until the 24th. I don't like that at all. What I was talking about working all the time because, man, I love watching basketball. I'm not gonna do all these damn shows. That's the part I'm not gonna be on ESPN. 1, 2, 3, d', esportes, nacho echo, whatever they call it, I'm not gonna be doing all that. But I wish that we had have been on more during the first half of the season. But I just checked the schedule. I think we're on Saturday, Wednesday, Saturday. So they're gonna start making up some of the days. But I wish in in December. We only worked one day in December, Dan. That was Christmas Day. And we're only working one day in January, basically. And that's the 24th. And I think maybe whatever next Wednesday is. But I wish we had have worked more because it's been great. The guys at ESPN have been great. They've been great. But like I say, we'll know more after we get scheduled heavy the last half of the season.
- [07:18]
Dan LeBatard
Put it on the poll, please. Juju at LeBatard show are you presently watching ESPN? Nacho Echo Durant has moved past Dirk Nowitzki, sixth on the all time scoring list. Where do you put him among all time greats? I thought Chris Whittingham had a great point when he just said this version of Durant with all of the changing of teams and everything, that the way he chose to do it is the worst possible, possible way that he could have done it for his legacy. If you'd given him all the options, the way that he chose to bounce around. This is the worst version of his career that there could have been in terms of legacy impacting. Given that he's one of the greatest scorers ever.
- [07:54]
Charles Barkley
Well, 100% agree with him because the Reason, the reason he had, he's been, he hadn't been close to being successful. I mean, we had him here in Phoenix. I mean he lost in the first round in Jersey. And first of all, every basketball person knows this, Dan. You don't go to New York and play for the Nets. You go to New York and play for the damn Knicks. Come on, man. I mean, that's basketball 101. When people say he's going to New York, I'm like, woo, this is going to be great. He's going to the Knicks, he went to the Nets. That's the first strike. Then he goes to Phoenix and he loses in the first round two years in a row. And now he goes to Houston. And my Phoenix Suns got a better record without him. That's a damning indictment. The Phoenix Suns have the same record basically as the Houston Rockets. Shout out to the coaching staff, Matt Ishbeer, the owner, Devin Booker, and let me tell you something, Dillon Brooks, he reminds me of Draymond, Dennis Rodman. Now they're going to drive you crazy sometimes.
- [09:05]
Dan LeBatard
You, you, you didn't mind being a villain.
- [09:08]
Charles Barkley
I did. Not being a villain. I'm talking about a guy who's gonna go over the line. I'm talking about a guy you have to have on your team to be successful. You can have all the great players. I've always said this. You can have all the great players you want, but you gotta have a crazy person that sets the tone for the team. And let me tell you, what Dillon Brooks is doing for my Phoenix Suns is incredible. Dude, we were picked. We weren't even supposed to make the play in game and now we having one of our best seasons. So shout out to Dillon Brooks, Devin Booker and those guys. They're doing a hell of a job.
- [09:46]
Dan LeBatard
Do you have a precedent? Can you think of a precedent like the one with Ja Morant where you've got a guy being advertised as the face of the league and now you can get him in the discount bin?
- [09:57]
Charles Barkley
That's a great question. He's in a discount being because of his own actions, Dan, you know, he, you know, we as players, we are the stupidest people. When I mean that, I don't mean stupid stupid. I mean like it's never our fault. You know the reason John Moran is in a discount aisle? The same reason Trae Young was in a discount aisle, Self inflicted wounds. You don't think the Atlanta Hawks wanted to build around trae young for 15 years? You don't think the Memphis Grizzlies want to have Ja Morant on their team forever. But it's self inflicted wounds because now you got to make business decisions because these guys make so much money now you can't pay a guy 60, 70, $80 million and we gonna be mediocre. But all the wounds were self inflicted. John Morant, everything he's did to put himself in a discount aisle is because of his own actions, plain and simple.
- [10:59]
Chris Cody
Charles, the All Star Game starters were announced last night. And for the first time, LeBron did not get the votes to be an All Star starter. So the only way he makes the game, now the coaches have to vote him in. Is it possible the coaches don't vote LeBron an all star?
- [11:15]
Charles Barkley
Well, let me say this. I think Adam Silver, who I love and respect, made a huge mistake. Listen, man, quit screwing around with the All Star Game. Make it international against the US all this. You play a team, you play a team. And all this other stuff I've been saying for 10 years, the international team against the United States team would be a perfect scenario. The reason they don't want to do it, because the international team will kick our ass. That's exactly why they won't do it. I mean, probably the top four or five players in the NBA today are international players. But it would be great. We don't have to win. It's kind of like the Olympics. I don't think it'd be the worst thing in the world if the United States didn't win. I think it'd be actually a boom if another country won. I think it'd be a boom for basketball if another country won. But I think the All Star Game is screwed up. We need to go international against American number one. LeBron didn't deserve to make the All Star team. But let me say this, I think he's, he's close to the end. I think we need to find a way to get him in there because I. Let's be honest, it's probably his last All Star Game, but he didn't deserve to make the team. He's not playing like an All Star. But if this is his last year, if this is his last year, I think we need to find a way to get him in the game. I think, listen, I think Adam Silver should go to LeBron and say, hey man, is this your last year? And then if it is like we need to make sure your last year you in the All Star Game because he's done so much for the game. I told you, he's the third best player I've ever seen play behind Michael and Kobe. He's never really gotten into trouble. I admire him. I respect him. But listen, man, if this is his last year, I hope that they find a way to get him in the game.
- [13:07]
Chris Cody
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- [14:13]
Charles Barkley
Smirnoff.
- [14:14]
Chris Cody
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- [14:49]
Charles Barkley
Wow.
- [14:49]
Chris Cody
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- [15:29]
Charles Barkley
You know, watch more games, complain about.
- [15:31]
Chris Cody
The power play and pretend like my team's actually going to stay healthy.
- [15:34]
Charles Barkley
Haha.
- [15:35]
Chris Cody
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- [15:51]
Charles Barkley
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- [15:52]
Chris Cody
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- [16:38]
Charles Barkley
All these high paid analysts. I don't want to mention names. Tnt, espm. You know. Oh yeah, they, they are dead. They cannot, they're not going to make it. You know, even if they win in, if they lose in Miami.
- [16:54]
Dan LeBatard
I need to calm you down. I need to calm down.
- [16:56]
Charles Barkley
That's right. They lose in Miami, they don't get a chance in Boston or they are going to have their ass. You know what in Boston, you know, stugats. They were wrong. Are they going to lose their job?
- [17:05]
Dan LeBatard
No.
- [17:05]
Charles Barkley
Are they going to get a cutting page? No. What are they going to do keep predicting what is the obvious. They are going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the attitude. And you know what? They are going to win it all. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
- [17:33]
Dan LeBatard
Are championships. The measurement there for you, Charles, because when you put those three guys in that class, I want to put Jokic there. I want to say that Jokic is among the best players that there have ever been in the sport. But the sport is changing so much that I feel like I'm going to say that about Wembanyama in a couple of years.
- [17:52]
Charles Barkley
Well, Dan, first of all, you 100% correct joke is now these three in my opinion, outliers. But Dan, you're not going to tell me you think first of all, joke is the best player in the world today. You're going to tell me he's been Wilt, Bill Russell, Kareem, Shaq, Hakeem. I says it on the air. We don't appreciate how great he is. We don't appreciate how great he is. But I said I'm not putting him above Bill Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Kareem. We talk about the greatest ever. Kareem should be in the conversation, but he never gets mis. Kareem should be in the conversation, but also, as much as I love the Joker, you're not going to put him out there against Shaq and Hakeem, are you? Come on, Dan, stop it. He's the best player in the world today. Don't get me wrong.
- [18:44]
Dan LeBatard
I mean, Charles, I know this generational stuff is tough, right? I know it's difficult. But Babe Ruth would have sat there watching 100 mile an hour fastballs with that big bat. And at some point Shaq and Michael Jordan are going to generationally be passed by evolution, are they not?
- [19:00]
Charles Barkley
At some point, not those guys. When Ben. No, Babe Ruth might get passed, but Michael, Michael Jordan won the slam dunk competition. So if you're good enough to win the slam dunk competition, you're one of the most athletic guys on the planet. Like yeah, all these guys are athletic. They don't mean it. Che Gillis Alexander. He's not overly athletic, is he? But he's, he's, he's right there with the joker for the best player in the world. I mean, I love Shay Gilson, but you don't say, wow, he's really, really athletic. Kawhi Leonard, the one day a week he plays, you can't tell me he's overly athletic, but he's gonna go down as one of the best players ever, so. And listen, the only question about Victor is his health, you know, Dan, have we ever. And I hate saying this because it sounds stupid, but it's true. Have we. These guys who are that tall, have we ever seen any one of them stay really healthy for like 10 years of excellence? I mean, it's such a freak of nature to be that tall. And I love that kid. I hope, I hope he's able to stay healthy. Cause he's a great height.
- [20:14]
Dan LeBatard
How was Wilt able to do it?
- [20:16]
Charles Barkley
Well, I think Wilt was only like, he's close to the shack height, like seven foot seven one. Just got this guy's seven, five, seven six. Yeah, yeah. But I will say this, and I've said this before. Shaquille o' Neal is the biggest human being I've ever seen in my life. Him being able to play 20 years is one of the greatest accomplishments in sports history. Like me and Kevin McHale used to always say, the first time I met Shaquille, I'm saying, how can a dude that big run that fast and jump that high? But his body to hold up for 20 years. I know at the end he didn't have a lot left, but he had a 10 to 15 year run where he was the most. He could outrun everybody. He could out jump everybody. But yeah, but man, I hope Victor can stay healthy.
- [21:06]
Dan LeBatard
I want to play for you the sound and see if you've gotten any better at saying the name of the two time NHL champion goalie for the Panthers, Sergey Babka.
- [21:18]
Charles Barkley
Well, you know, first of all, let me explain.
- [21:24]
Chris Cody
Go on.
- [21:26]
Charles Barkley
Hey, Greg. Cody. It's good to see you, brother. Thank you, Charles.
- [21:30]
Chris Cody
Thank you.
- [21:30]
Charles Barkley
I apologize for laughing at you mispronouncing Bob Rousey. No, hey, hey, that's no big deal. I'm gonna explain to you why. Cause you know when you go to do a hit on television, you get to the game early. And I'm on spring break at that time. So I was in the. Hey, so I was already in the Sergey Vodka before I got to Bobrovk. You know, I had already started drinking before the game, Dan. So I was thinking Bobrovsky and Babotki for Babka. That's exactly right. I was already into vodka already. I'm not gonna go to a hockey game and not drink, Dan.
- [22:13]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, fair enough. Put it on the Polette Levittar show. Are you gonna go to a hockey game and not drink? You're betting the University of Miami And Indiana last night. Did you bet the game and how much did or lose?
- [22:26]
Charles Barkley
I got beat like a drum last night, Dan. And I went, I. I went. It was a big number too. I had. Because they tricked me. Because I'm going tell you what I was thinking. And I made two bets. I went to the sports book and I called my bookie. So I bet big twice. So I got my ass kicked twice. I said, man, my coach, Crystal Ball, has done a hell of a job. They got a great defense. Why are they getting seven and a half to eight and a half? I says, I think Indiana's gonna win the game. But, man, they tricked me into betting on Miami on the money line.
- [23:07]
Dan LeBatard
I mean, you covered. You covered, but you bet Miami to win. You bet Miami on the money?
- [23:11]
Charles Barkley
No, no, no, I took Indiana. Indiana didn't cover.
- [23:15]
Dan LeBatard
Okay, so who tricked you? What happened?
- [23:18]
Charles Barkley
Well, the book, the line say take Indiana because they're not gonna blow out Miami. You know, it's same thing about three weeks ago. I says, I think Indiana's better than Alabama, but they're not gonna win by more than a touchdown. You know, you're trying to figure all this stuff out. I said, well, I think it's gonna be a good game. But why? Because the lines dropped from eight and a half to seven and a half. Cause I played golf yesterday and it was eight and a half. By the time I got to the sports book, it was seven and a half. I said, oh, man. So I just. I overthought it. I should have gave Coach Crystal Ball more credit. But, man, you know what? Hey, that's gambling, brother. That's gambling.
- [24:00]
Dan LeBatard
Our crew here is a little confused. Mike and Tony are a little confused by what happened to your bet. And we don't understand why you would need to make two bets. Why it is you'd go to the sport, double down on it, and also call your bookie. Is it because you had drinks while you were playing golf, Sergey Babbka?
- [24:15]
Charles Barkley
No, because I was really confident that Indiana was going to. Because I thought I said, man, this ship the line should be closer because Miami's got a hell of a team and they're playing at home. That's what I was thinking. So I just bet twice. I just bet more. So. But I didn't bet. I bet twice. I just bet more and I lost more twice. So. But did I. I did. The line tricked me. I said, man, they died for us to bet on Miami because Miami, to me, they shouldn't have been getting seven and a half. I mean, they won all those games they were playing at home, but they just tricked me. Damn. Plain and simple.
- [24:58]
Dan LeBatard
It sounds like you're a bad gambler. Who's tricking you? Is your bookie just telling you, no, don't do that. Who's tricking Charles Barkley?
- [25:07]
Charles Barkley
Well, there's no such thing. I tell people there's no such thing as a bad card player. Because when you go to the casino, if you get good cards, you're a good damn gambler. You know, I always love when people say, are you a good card player or you're a good gambler? I said, depends on if I win or lose. When the dealer's giving you all these good cards, nobody say, man, you a good gambler? I said, no, the dealer's giving me good cards. And when I call my bookie and I bet when I win, man, I took the right side. When I lose, I took the wrong side. That's gambling, brother.
- [25:46]
Dan LeBatard
Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Should your bookie be trying to talk you out of the bet? You're trying to make sure Charles, true or false. Shaq still cannot name three Pistons.
- [26:02]
Charles Barkley
You know, in fairness to Shaq. In fairness to Shaq, the pistons have all been relevant. No, we've been on TV a long time. The Pistons number one great win last night, but they only been relevant. That's like that stupid game we play, who he play for? That game's not stupid.
- [26:20]
Chris Cody
It's awesome game.
- [26:22]
Charles Barkley
I'm not watching bad teams play, man. Listen, the only player I know on the Washington Wizards is. Damn. Trae Young. And CJ's in Atlanta now. The Sacramento Kings. I know DeMar DeRozan and Zach Levine and the Murray kids. I don't watch bad basketball. It makes my head hurt. So the answer is no, he can't name three pistons. Oh, okay, let me. Okay, let me name something for you, Dan. Usf. We just stole. Y' all coach Auburn. Coach Gillash. I'm happy to have him at Auburn.
- [27:03]
Dan LeBatard
And the quarterback.
- [27:04]
Charles Barkley
And the quarterback. Name me another player for usf. Dan, he's in your damn backyard.
- [27:09]
Dan LeBatard
Oh, I watched so many USF games.
- [27:12]
Chris Cody
So many.
- [27:12]
Dan LeBatard
I'm just watching uniforms.
- [27:15]
Charles Barkley
Okay, okay. So you watching uniforms. Okay, I know the quarterback and the coach. And I'm really excited about Coach Gillesch. I'm gonna tell you something. One of my great people I admire is Derek. Damn, I forgot his name.
- [27:29]
Chris Cody
You admire him, though?
- [27:30]
Charles Barkley
You admire him though, Chuck?
- [27:31]
Chris Cody
Yeah, he's good. I love him.
- [27:33]
Charles Barkley
Wait. Oh, I got it. Derrick Brooks. No, I really. But I never see Derrick Brooks. But I was down in Tampa at John Cooper's fishing tournament about. About two months ago, and I saw Derrick Brooks, one of the most amazing men I've ever met in my life. He sends me a text when we get Coach Gillespe. He says, y' all got a real one, Chuck. And if I get the seal of approval from Derrick Brooks, I know we got a great coach coming to Auburn. And I cannot wait to support Coach Gillesch.
- [28:06]
Chris Cody
Charles. Shaq gets mad sometimes on the show, like when you guys are busting balls. Have you ever gotten actually. You ever gotten actually mad in a game?
- [28:16]
Dan LeBatard
He f Shaq, which is no, but.
- [28:18]
Charles Barkley
I'm talking about on the show. No, dude. The only problem I ever have with Shaq and you and he hates Dan. He hates Dan. Y' all know that, right?
- [28:29]
Chris Cody
Yep, we've gotten the vibe.
- [28:32]
Charles Barkley
So Shaq is one of those guys, and it's not a good trade. He can dish it out, but he can't take it. I and me, if I'm gonna dish it out, I gotta be able to take it. So I get mad. When people are sensitive, you can't give people junk. First of all, that's the best part about playing any type of team sport, especially the NBA. The bus trips, the plane trip, we ride each other. Unbelievable. But Shaq can dish it out, but he can't take it. That's his only weakness. Cause he's a really, really good dude. But he can't take criticism.
- [29:10]
Dan LeBatard
That's why he hates me. Only because I've said I don't understand why he's so sensitive. He's one at understand. You just said something that's harsher criticism than any I've ever leveled at check.
- [29:21]
Charles Barkley
Yeah, but I don't think it's a criticism. You got to be able to take it if you're going to dish it out. I mean, that's. That's just life 101. You can't just give people a hard time and not be able to take it.
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- [31:02]
Dan LeBatard
Don LeBatard what is the worst part of the life?
- [31:06]
Charles Barkley
Stugats.
- [31:10]
Chris Cody
The worst part of the life of what?
- [31:12]
Charles Barkley
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
- [31:23]
Dan LeBatard
Do you have a player right now in the league that you've pissed off the most this year because you don't mind pissing people off? Is there an active player right now that you that's on your ledger? Where I really got this guy angry with something I said.
- [31:37]
Charles Barkley
Well, the guy who hates me is probably Kevin Durant, which is fine. I mean, we don't, we don't have to be. I don't have to be friends with any of these guys. You know, Kevin Durant's a great player. He's one of the best scorers ever. You know what's really funny? You said that quote from another guy earlier and he probably gonna tweet at me because I agreed with what he said. But you know, it's so funny. He hits the game winner against the Suns. He's like, like, yeah, I really want to stick it to the Suns. They threw me away. I'm like, dude, we traded 10 draft picks. We gave you $60 million a year and we got swept in the first round of the playoffs. You want us to keep you around? Like, what do you expect? We had to reset. I'm like, wait a minute, they didn't throw you away. We traded a five or six number one draft picks. Then you wanted Bradley Beal. We went out and got Bradley Beal. We lost in the first round the first year. The next year with you, we got swept. And then this year we got a better record than the Rockets. And you still mad? What you mad at? Facts. We're better without you. Don't get mad. Those are just facts.
- [32:50]
Dan LeBatard
Watch Inside the NBA. It's the best sports studio show there's ever been. And NBA Saturday primetime on abc. Chuck, it's always great seeing you. You always.
- [32:59]
Charles Barkley
Hey, Dan, can I say something before we go?
- [33:04]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. But I know what you're gonna. I know what you're gonna say.
- [33:07]
Chris Cody
I don't know what he's gonna say.
- [33:08]
Dan LeBatard
I know what he's gonna say.
- [33:09]
Charles Barkley
Yes, Dan. I'm not gonna say that anymore. Dan, I just want to say this to you, man. You know, when I first met you, I told you what a big fan I was, and I said, yo. Because I do. I think most of the guys just want to get clicks and just want to be in the limelight and say stupid stuff. I said, dan, I like you. You and Tim. What is it? Call us.
- [33:33]
Chris Cody
Y' all a lot of respect for him.
- [33:34]
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
- [33:35]
Charles Barkley
I said, you two of my favorite guys. Because I know when y' all say stuff that don't mean y', all, right? Like, I don't think I'm right all the time, but I ain't never gonna say anything to get clicks. So anytime you call me, you stole my girl Leah, too, which I'm not happy about. Leah Ball, Bruce Pearl's daughter, who's the same. You stole her from me, but I'll forgive you. But I told you, man, I got so much love and admiration for you and Tim Kalasha. But I want to say this about you. The best thing you ever did for me was hooking me up with your mom. Man. That lady is a saint. We text back and forth all the time. She always. You know, I used to give Ernie a hard time because white people always texting you pictures of their grandkids like you give a damn. I always used to give Ernie a hard time. I said, ernie, I know your grandkids are cute. Quit sending me pictures now. I got grandkids. Ernie calls me. He says, the white Charles Barkley. I sent his wife grand picture. Kids all. It's the greatest thing ever, being a grandpa. But your mom. When I go a week without sending pictures of my two grandkids, which is the greatest thing that ever happened to me, she sends me a text like, I better get a picture soon. So the best thing you ever did for me, Dan, was hooking me up with your mom. That lady's a saint, and she's going to heaven because of you and that fat old daddy of yours. There it is.
- [34:59]
Dan LeBatard
I knew that was coming. You said it wasn't coming, and I knew that was coming. You were gonna hammer my fat old dad Fod. And evidently you hooked up with my mom, which is not something I knew. Charles, good to see you. Nice to see you as always, sir. Good to see that smile. And good to see that you're healthy. You're taking care of yourself. Skinny as I've ever been.
- [35:17]
Charles Barkley
Hey, Zay G. Hey, hey. Road co. Road co. Go get some zepbound. All you fat people out there. Road co. Zapbound.
- [35:26]
Dan LeBatard
See you later, Charles. Nice to meet you.
- [35:28]
Charles Barkley
I love you guys. Be safe.
- [35:30]
Dan LeBatard
Love you, too. So Mike Ryan is back there and he's hiding in the corner. And the guy that we quoted earlier was Chris Whittingham. He was having trouble with some of the names there because your legends and your heroes are aging.
- [35:45]
Chris Cody
And that Derek, I forgot his name. One of the great people I admire Derek. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't want to interrupt the. The conversation about Derek. What's his name? But I regret not getting to float my all star replacement idea to Chaz Barkley, which is, by the way, this us versus the world. What's the idea?
- [36:07]
Dan LeBatard
Who cares?
- [36:09]
Chris Cody
What are the stakes for the world? What does the world care? Let's play for all of us again. So strange. Here's what we do. The All Star Games. All. All Star Games are outmoded. They don't care. Forget it. Instead, one on one tournament, right? That sucks. Tony. Come on. That's. You wanted to hate that. You wanted everybody like it. Tony. 6, 11, 7. Wait, let me get no kich on Anthony Edwards. Oh, no, no, no. Sideways. You break it up into four, into four categories. You go like 6, 11 and above 6, 10 to, you know, 6, 8, and so and on down. Love it.
- [36:50]
Charles Barkley
Be great. No, nobody cares about one on one. Here's what you do.
- [36:53]
Chris Cody
Well, nobody cares about the All Star Game.
- [36:55]
Charles Barkley
Here's what you do. A game of horse. Bring back horse.
- [36:58]
Chris Cody
All right, it's getting lame. Let's see how lame we can make. Let's. Let's work through this. Greg, how many people are playing? Is it all the All Stars trying to make the same shot?
- [37:05]
Charles Barkley
It's one on one.
- [37:06]
Chris Cody
Maybe guys just doing the three man weave down the court. You create a short, a shot. When I played horse, the. The go to shot was you stand behind the basket. I put it over the top. Put it right over the top. Yeah, that's a good Shot. My dad used to make that shot a lot in horse. Yeah, you have to. And then I became better than him. And then it was easy. This is a great idea, right, Dan? Thank you.
- [37:25]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Give me Indiana -7 and a half. No. What you want I should take Miami? What I don't like. I don't know which way to go here.
- [37:35]
Chris Cody
That seems like a lot of points. I'm gonna take Indiana. How. How is Miami getting so many points? I'll lay the points. Give me the Hoosiers.
- [37:44]
Dan LeBatard
It's not a terrible idea, but after that particular game. Fix the NBA all star game is not the topic matter that I really wanted.
- [37:53]
Chris Cody
That was a head spinning appearance from Charles Barkley. I have to admit. Tim Calashow, Diana Pinta.
- [37:59]
Dan LeBatard
It was a stunner. Right? It was a stunner in all regards Tims.
- [38:05]
Chris Cody
Jeremy was smiling at the Jimmy Butler highlights.
- [38:07]
Charles Barkley
I'm just.
- [38:07]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, he was.
- [38:08]
Chris Cody
Jeremy's enjoying the injury. We got him more than anyone here. That's not what happened. Super pumped. That is not what happened at all. I'm not super pumped. Super Tiger woods fist bump. That's not what. Tiger on 18 in Augusta. That's what's happening inside. That's not true. You can ask anyone who was in that room last night. When I saw. I was not excited. Psyched. That's not true. It's okay to be psyched about that. No, I was okay. No, it's not.
- [38:33]
Charles Barkley
Bad guy.
- [38:34]
Chris Cody
And he got what was coming.
- [38:35]
Charles Barkley
He left the villain. That's what you think. His way out of town and left the villain.
- [38:40]
Chris Cody
I know why you're doing that.
- [38:42]
Charles Barkley
Journalist.
- [38:42]
Chris Cody
You have three Emmys. You're on the Heat broadcast. You publicly cannot say that. But I know what's inside of you. And it is pure unbridled joy that Jimmy Butler tore his acl. You can shake your head all you want. You can shake your head all you want. Three years from now, you're going to be like you were dead. Let's show Jeremy's reaction last night to the injury. Oh, it's his fist bump after he did.
- [39:06]
Dan LeBatard
I don't think that that's right to do. Mike Ryan has put his name on enjoying that. And that's not something that we should be doing right.
- [39:14]
Chris Cody
That's super classless.
- [39:16]
Dan LeBatard
You can have that as a private thought. Just don't speak it into a microphone. Keep your eyes.
- [39:21]
Chris Cody
No, I didn't.
- [39:21]
Dan LeBatard
Keep your eyes.
- [39:22]
Chris Cody
Why'd you do that? Jeremy, You're a good guy. You have a good reputation. I mean, not amongst Miami People, but, like, everyone knows that you have a good heart. You're entitled to be, like, super pumped about this, Mike. And Tua, too. Honest.
- [39:35]
Dan LeBatard
I like you, though, Jeremy, me, Mike.
- [39:38]
Chris Cody
We'Re all pieces of shit inside. Come on. You're pumped.
- [39:40]
Dan LeBatard
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Are we all pieces of feces inside? I think that's almost literal.
- [39:46]
Chris Cody
Even Jeremy?
- [39:48]
Dan LeBatard
Even Jeremy. Even Jeremy. You can add that Jeremy really cares.
- [39:52]
Chris Cody
About what people think. Trust me, I do so much. I care so much what people think.
- [39:57]
Dan LeBatard
Well, Mike was just informing me before that interview started. He's like, I just can't believe how much a new generation of University of Miami fans hate you. And I'm like, I'm used to this. It's been 30 years I've been doing this with University of Miami fans as people nationally associate me with being too pro. Miami, that's. Yeah, it's sort of.
- [40:17]
Chris Cody
But those were older heads. Like, for, like, people in their 20s to be like, you know, f. Dan LeBatard, it's pretty shocking what's happened. Like, yeah, I don't.
- [40:27]
Charles Barkley
I don't.
- [40:28]
Chris Cody
We. We need to do some fixing there with your reputation. Because, like, hey, I was all over the city trying to make. Trying to make Dan's name great again. I'm trying to help, like, the Pell Grant thing like that.
- [40:37]
Dan LeBatard
I didn't do the Pell.
- [40:38]
Chris Cody
I know, I know, but that was a reputation for you. And, like, you could always tell, like, the certain Miami Hurricanes fan that is always going to hold that grudge over you. Lucy, you know about that Pell Grant? No, but I do have an idea for you. You can just Mark Cuban it and be like, hey, I'm going to give a ton of money to Miami. I'm going to buy you guys a player. Because Mark Cuban did not give any money to Indiana last year. And now he's got this real nice little Indiana.
- [41:03]
Charles Barkley
We paid for.
- [41:03]
Dan LeBatard
Tyler Van Dyke around here.
- [41:05]
Chris Cody
No, we got a refund on that. I can't believe we did that. That's so crazy. Bad business is. I think Saban tried to steal Tyler Van Dyke. That was a thing.
- [41:15]
Dan LeBatard
We have been talking here recently about the number of prayers from Mendoza and others that God and Jesus have been getting here recently. And obviously our show able to get Andy Garcia at halftime when I requested Cubanissimo last night. Also able to get a direct line to the Lord here.
- [41:39]
Chris Cody
You know, people think being the Lord and Savior is easy work, but this time of year, my entire day is ground to a halt because of playoff football. JC here. It's just impossible to keep track. Like, look, I have this email from January 7, 2013. Dear Lord, we've worked tirelessly in your name all season. We're just one game away from our dreams coming true. Please help us keep the Alabama run game in control and emerge healthy and victorious. Love, Manti Teo, Notre Dame linebacker. Like, I just saw this six months ago. Yeah, yeah, it's J Dog. JC the Redeemer. No, they're both good options. Yeah, no, they're both really good options. It's gonna be. I'm such a big fan. Do you mind if I take a selfie with you?
- [42:42]
Charles Barkley
Please?
- [42:44]
Chris Cody
No, Mommy, I can wait.
- [42:45]
Dan LeBatard
I can wait.
- [42:46]
Chris Cody
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