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Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Stugotz
Guys, it's time for our contractually obligated Dan Levittard segment. This is a segment that Dan would have loved to have done had he been here.
Chris Cody
Okay.
Stugotz
Shannon Sharpe, released by espn. No longer an employee after a. Almost like a blaze of glory across the screen when he was on first Take. But that time is over now, I believe. I don't. Then obviously they never say why, but I believe this is because of the lawsuit.
Chris Cody
Yeah, I think the timing of it is pretty clear.
Stugotz
I don't know, maybe. I don't know, maybe there's something else happening. You think performance. I don't know.
Dan Le Batard
You think? So initially, the way that it was reported and it gets chucked into the group chat by some of the worst people you can imagine. Settlement. So people initially think, okay, he's been cleared and. And he'll get back to work. That's usually how this goes. And then you see the number attached and you're like, wow, that's a big.
Stugotz
Number for the settlement.
Dan Le Batard
That is a mighty hefty number. And even some of those worst people that you can imagine were like, okay, that's a damning settlement number.
Stugotz
Settlements don't mean an admission of guilt. Settlement, like, most of the time is because it is just cheaper and faster to pay them to go away than to go through the litigation process, even.
Chris Cody
If you are innocent of something, to have to go through every detail of other things. It's just not.
Dan Le Batard
But you rarely see it be $50 million.
Stugotz
50 million is like, at that number, I think most people like, to hell with it, let's go to court. Unless. Unless there was something in discovery that you would find to be detrimental to your character, your reputation, again, doesn't necessarily mean anything for the legality of what happened. It's just. I don't want people all up in my business in that way. $50 million. I'm trying to think that's what's out there.
Dan Le Batard
That's a number. It may not be.
Stugotz
May not be 50 million. You know what? We're also jumping to conclusions here.
Dan Le Batard
Right. But I think you could read a lot into what ESPN decided because they. They had a lot of the. They had more information available to them probably. Presumably they were in contact with Shannon's camp and they still made the decision to move on. It wasn't an easy decision. By the way. Remember, when all this started to go down, it was heavily rumored Shannon Sharpe was going to get his own vehicle and they were going to On a mill. Yeah, they were going to do. Yeah, they were going to do the Pat McAfee, Stephen A. Smith model, which is. We have our stars in every day part. And Shannon's going to carry the afternoon after around the horn went away.
Stugotz
I got it, man. The guy already has a lot of money. He's been very successful, not only on the field, but in his post playing career. But man, it's kind of like the Malik Beasley thing where it's like you're on the cusp of getting $42 million and then it's all gone. I don't care how much money you got in the bank. That sucks.
Chris Cody
And what was it, Zaz, that he was upset about the timing of ESPN's.
Dave
Oh, I don't know.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I saw that. Yeah. Because his brother is getting inducted this week. I saw him release a statement that he's like, I really, I talked.
Stugotz
I wanted this to come out next week.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
So he's not happy that this bro kind of taking the shine away from.
Stugotz
His bro, you know, that's the detail.
Chris Cody
You want to really hammer home, right? Oh, they should have. I should have. That's what I regret next week. That's what I asked. And they did not respect my wishes.
Stugotz
I mean, they didn't need to do this. They could have done it last week, too. Could have done it last week.
Chris Cody
I'm pretty sure they were waiting for the finality of.
Dave
I don't know what. Does ESPN care about that? Well, they care.
Dan Le Batard
I think that was what Shannon's point of resentment, point of contention was. Like, why? Why do you not care?
Dave
Oh, well, he's like, he's like a 20 year employee. No, he's there for what, like a year?
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
He's not a legacy guy.
Dave
Yeah, whatever. It's not their business to care about that.
Stugotz
Like, okay, so if I had to short you guys the odds of him rejoining ESPN at some point in the future, five years, 10 years, whatever. Oh, I, I double. I. You don't. Never.
Chris Cody
The only person who's ever made a comeback is Stephen. A. Really? Right.
Dave
And he didn't do anything.
Chris Cody
He didn't do anything wrong.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Wolverman came back, Olbermann came back and Dan Patrick did stuff.
Stugotz
There's.
Chris Cody
Like salary, the second best.
Dan Le Batard
I wouldn't close that door. There's all sorts of talk out there in the marketplace that ESPN may be spun off one day, one day soon by Disney, make its own private company. And we've seen this already. I think E News got spun off by NBC. Universal. It's not outside of the realm of possibility. And then if it gets spun off into a different thing, different people come in and have different ideas.
Dave
All right, there you go.
Stugotz
What's next for Shannon?
Israel Gutierrez
Well, could I say very quickly, quick note on that. I wonder about Shannon's self esteem because he has a brother named Sterling and he got named Shannon. This is as big a divide as the Bennett's. Their. Their parents. Michael, high end defender. You're Mike. Your brother is Martellis. Martellis Bennett. And you gave me Mike.
Chris Cody
Yeah, I've always wondered about that with parents. Like, I have three. Had three sisters and the first three siblings. No middle name. Fourth one gave her a middle name.
Stugotz
What the hell? Hurtful Dave. This is one of my favorite trivia pieces. NBA related. O.J. mayo, remember him?
Israel Gutierrez
Sure.
Stugotz
His O.J. stands for Ovintin J. Anthony. His name is Ovintin Jayanthony Mayo. His brother's name is Todd.
Chris Cody
Which is worse? Is it that situation or you are Lance Stevenson and you have a brother named Lance Stevenson. It's just spelled differently.
Dave
Wait, what?
Stugotz
Yeah, Lance Stevenson had a brother name.
Chris Cody
L, A N T Z Stevenson.
Dave
Get the hell out of Lance.
Stugotz
There's one more of these NBA names that always tickles me. Paul George. His father is Paul George Sr. His mother is Paulette George.
Chris Cody
Wow.
Stugotz
Yes. I love it. I love it too. I love the idea of them meeting, like whenever it was in the 80s or whatever. Like, how you doing? My name's Paul. What's your. And she says, paulette.
Israel Gutierrez
You're like, that was the next eight minutes of the conversation, right?
Dave
Can you believe it?
Israel Gutierrez
I can't believe it.
Stugotz
If he introduced himself first. He says, what's your name? And she says, paulette. And she says, what's your name? And he says, paul. She thinks he's full of shit, right? Like, there's no way. There's no way.
Israel Gutierrez
Well, the old goalie, though, you know, Pete Peters. What were the parents thinking with that?
Stugotz
Kris Kristofferson.
Dan Le Batard
There was an artist on my CBS Jams playlist, Philip Phillips.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
You guys see what. You guys see what Steve Kerr's son's name is?
Dan Le Batard
Okay, let's not do this again.
Dave
I don't like it.
Dan Le Batard
We did that. It was dangerous yesterday.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I'm not gonna say it. I'm saying, like, they couldn't have seen that come.
Stugotz
I've known this child. He was like 10 years old.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
They were like, it's Nicholas.
Stugotz
You're not gonna get jokes off in my. Not. This is where I draw the Line of decency, sir. That is a good young man, works hard at his job.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
He's gonna go by Nicholas, though, right?
Stugotz
I've known him as Nick his whole life.
Chris Cody
Nobody calls him by his full name all the time. Chris Cody.
Stugotz
Do you guys introduce yourselves with your full name? Cause in the movies, it's one of my biggest pet peeves. Like, hey, Mike Johnson. I'm like, no one's. What's your name? Mike. That's it. No one cares what your last name is. But then I realized maybe this is.
Dave
A lot of people do that, though.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Israel Gutierrez
Do you guys?
Stugotz
Jonathan Zaslan.
Dave
Well, I mean, Dave, how did I introduce myself to you this morning?
Israel Gutierrez
I think we just went first name, right? Nobody went. Nobody gave me a surname, and nor did I give mine back.
Dave
I always say, hey, I'm Jonathan.
Stugotz
That's why I mispronounced your name to set the show. There you go. Full substance.
Dave
A lot of people do that. A lot of people do the whole name.
Stugotz
Do they?
Dan Le Batard
If it's formal, if it's like a.
Stugotz
Business, Even in business.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, in business. Mike Ryan Ruiz. How the hell are you?
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I mean, technically, this was a business introduction and they didn't do it.
Stugotz
Yeah. So we suck, huh?
Dan Le Batard
Depends on the business.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I'm good with first name.
Stugotz
You go Chris or do you go Christopher?
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Yes, Chris.
Stugotz
Izzy. What do you do?
Chris Cody
No, it's got, like. It's a business setting. Like, professional. Yeah, I'm giving my full name Israel Gutierrez. Yeah.
Stugotz
Like, no way.
Chris Cody
Yeah. So if I'm going into.
Stugotz
Go to arena and you're going to interview the head coach of the Memphis Grizzlies, you want us to. Italo. I think I got that right. Right, Isolo. Isolo.
Dave
I think it's Isalo.
Stugotz
Isalo.
Dave
Definitely stay here for a little while.
Stugotz
Isalo. And so you walk in, hey, Coach, how's it going? Do you say Israel Gutierrez, Meadowlock Media, or do you just say Metal Lock Media?
Chris Cody
That's not my name. I say Israel.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Chris Cody
It's the first time I'm introducing a coach. Say Israel Gutierrez. Like, especially in that type of setting where somebody potentially could have seen, like, a byline, could have seen my name across the screen. But as opposed to just saying Izzy.
Dan Le Batard
Or Israel, I would get used to it if I worked for a newspaper, because just my job, I'm always going, mike Ryan Ruiz, Pittsburgh Gazette, buddy.
Stugotz
I'm such a narcissist. I just say my name and you supposed to know who the hell I am. There ain't too many memes walking around.
Chris Cody
I would never, ever do the thing where you say, say your name and affiliation.
Stugotz
If the people.
Chris Cody
If it's Dwayne Wade at the damn press conference, I'm like, I'm not telling him my name and affiliation. It's not for the fans. I just need that guy to answer my question.
Stugotz
Well, I mean, if you're at the finals, you have to do it.
Chris Cody
No doubt.
Stugotz
They won't pick you anymore. Come on. Oh, this guy. Direct line of Mike Bass. Like, hey, shout out to Mike Bass. That's not the only person who had a little bit of issue. From former First Take appearer Shannon Sharpe. Marcus Morris Sr.
Dave
This story is so ridiculous.
Chris Cody
He wished to be on First Take.
Stugotz
He was on First Take.
Dave
Do you have a television?
Chris Cody
Yeah, it's not on that channel very often, man.
Stugotz
Good boy.
Chris Cody
Unless it's live sports, baby.
Dan Le Batard
Nothing on mute, though.
Stugotz
No.
Dan Le Batard
You didn't pick up one of those? No, I didn't watch the Carton show, but I knew of it.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Chris Cody
No, there's so many better. I could watch Top Chef on mute. So much better.
Stugotz
Or you could watch the Dan Levatar show on mute. Ratkings Network and Peacock. But anyways, Marcus Morris Sr. Right, was arrested at a local airport. I don't know.
Dave
It was at Fort Lauderdale Airport.
Stugotz
Lauderdale, right.
Chris Cody
Great airport.
Stugotz
And I hate it. It's a bus. It's a bus terminal. It's not an.
Dave
It's good airport.
Stugotz
It's a bus terminal. It's a bus terminal. And by the way, Ubers. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Long wait. Long wait just to get an Uber.
Dave
It's big. Airport.
Stugotz
Nah, terrible. Anyways, Marcus Morris Senior, he's arrested for what they call fraud, defrauding several Vegas properties out of a large amount of money. And the way it made it sound, it sounded like he tried to steal money or he was writing bad checks. That's the way the news story came out.
Chris Cody
Right.
Stugotz
Marcus Morris took to Threads to clarify.
Dave
It was bad checks, though. Right.
Chris Cody
I literally said in the story that I wrote a check that he knew wouldn't clear.
Dave
Multiple times.
Chris Cody
Yes.
Stugotz
Thank God I woke up in my bed this morning. I will address this on camera as well. The word fraud was thrown on my name, as if I took something or really wrote a check to a casino in exchange for cash. Did I take out a marker to gamble? Yes. Was this my first time? No. I've been enjoying my all the time. I do what I like every year at some point in Vegas at a high level for years. And that's not just Gambling. I really thought the amount of money and time I spent there would really have value. So yeah, I took my time to pay back the money that could have been handled on the spot. If I'd known that, I would have been locked up. Like I was trying to flee or a flight risk. I was just in Vegas. No phone call, visit or nothing. Actually gambled and had mansions at both casinos. The key word I won't accept if fraud I think he meant is fraud. Because this had nothing to do with no money exchange or me not being able to pay for something. My character means everything and my family as well.
Chris Cody
Alright, hold on. Which is what my starting point is. If I ever did an amino Hassan impression. Hold on.
Stugotz
It's the first time I've ever heard one. Did he?
Chris Cody
It was not very good. So you're saying that Marcus is implying that they never asked for the money back in any other way? No, that the first time that they asked for it back was straight to jail.
Dave
You're arrested. Well, no chance.
Stugotz
He goes on.
Dave
And it was over a year ago that this happened.
Stugotz
Yeah. He goes on. I hate for Vegas to really make me look like a criminal over a petty couple hundred. And really made me sit 51 hours over that shit. What hurt the most is I was really chained up and sitting in jail. 24 hour lockdown. Lesson learned. I'm not ducking or hiding from shit. Most of you know that about me.
Dave
Lesson learned. When you borrow money and the casino wants you to pay it back.
Stugotz
Hold on. You gotta pay it back.
Dave
Good lesson.
Stugotz
He gets to it. Here. Check the stats. Never owed or needed money for anything. So did I go past the time I needed to repay? Yeah, I probably did. But did I know they would have locked me up? Hell no. It's not a Blockbuster Video.
Chris Cody
Like it's not some sort of lake.
Dave
When you land in Vegas and you see what this place looks like, you think this place messes around? Pay us back when you want.
Stugotz
I would pay anything to stay out of jail. Money paid back and lesson learned.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
He's still going.
Stugotz
Fraud. This is one thread fraud I can't live with. But I'm not going on every media site to clear anything up. If I didn't have it, I would still be sitting. And also, having a millionaire brother in my corner doesn't hurt either. Y' all be blessed, man. Me and my bro will be on the platform sometime soon. Not to clear shit up, but to explain what took place and what lessons was learned for the young athletes that watch and look up to Us.
Dave
This is not a complicated lesson.
Stugotz
My last thing is f Vegas. To treat me like that was wild. I've gambled on that properties over 10 plus years. We could have handled that mob money over business style or.
Dave
Yeah, mob he wanted to do. He wanted to be handled mob style.
Stugotz
Mob style. Before that option, never been in cuffs or a part of any fraud shit in my life. And it's going to stay that way. I don't need PR to do anything.
Dave
Wouldn't mob style been. They would have killed him.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. Whacked him. Yeah.
Stugotz
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
That's a wild sentence to end everything on. I don't need PR to help me.
Stugotz
To do anything for me. This is from me, a man who built his career on morals and character. Never running or ducking from anything. If you know gambling, you can't take money out the casino if you got a marker. Moral of the story is Vegas doesn't care about nothing but they bread. And if and when they feel they will move forward. Lesson learned.
Chris Cody
Lesson learned. Is that the end?
Stugotz
The Internet. Undefeated. We all know that. So have at it for a week or so. I can't win that battle anyway. But I'm not going to go back and forth with no one over saying I can't pay 300k. Check the stats. It's public info. Fraud is taking money or using money knowing it's not yours or not being used in the way that it was given. For God knows my purpose.
Chris Cody
The end.
Stugotz
Be blessed.
Dan Le Batard
Is it done?
Stugotz
Say what you want.
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Chris Cody
Who did it better? Who got out of jail better, Gilbert Arenas or Marcus Morris? Cuz I'm going to go say go ahead and say Gilbert arena did it way better. Like with the flip flop you no longer you don't get street cred when you come out whining like this.
Stugotz
Well, I don't think he's whining. I think he's by the way, we can run Gilbert Arenas coming out of jail one more time for those that missed it earlier. Sweet.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
You better not Dancing running down the.
Stugotz
Staircase can't hold me baby, you can't hold me. Hello.
Chris Cody
If Marcus Morris would have just said they can't hold me baby on one post and everybody would have been.
Dave
Marcus Morris just sounds like he doesn't like the rules.
Stugotz
It's just like I understand where he's come from to hear the word fraud. And again, just like Gilbert Arenas Thing insinuated something that it really was and for Marcus Morris, insinuated either A, he's out here running around writing bad checks, or B, like, actively, like, heisting in a very tiny 300k way for a casino, but heisting money. And his thing is just like, yeah, I was late paying you back. And, yeah, that's not to say that's all right and that's okay. But to make it seem like he was actively trying to defraud the casino. I could see how that would bother him.
Chris Cody
Can I combine topics for a second, please? Fraudulent checks. Catch Me if youf can. A 21st century movie that Tom Hanks, totally rewatchable. Did you guys mention that one?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, it's. We mentioned it when we were talking about great years in cinema and we posited catch Leo DiCaprio. I think catch Me if youf can and Gangs in New York might have came out at, like, the exact same.
Chris Cody
You were having a conversation about movies this century and whether they were any sort of good, rewatchable. That Catch Me if you can't. The first one that came to mind could watch that anytime it comes.
Stugotz
I love that. I love that movie. I love the movie itself.
Chris Cody
Kind of a fraud, interestingly enough.
Stugotz
Oh, yeah, no, like. Like, oh, shocker story. Lied. They lied a lot to. To make it tell a good story. But that's, you know, that's all right. You know, it's. It's a movie. It's like Amadeus. Like, none of that happened. But it's a great movie, so you just go with it.
Chris Cody
Actually. It's kind of what a fraudster would do. Marcus Morris, right? I'm not a fraudster. I mean. Yeah, it's catch me if you can.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Catch me if you can. When Jerry Stiller and his wife are swaying, like, while doing dishes after that one party.
Chris Cody
I love that scene.
Stugotz
Jerry Stiller.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
This is like the scene where he breaks, like, where they're having, like, a fancy house party after he just got married to the one lady and he's about to, like, bust out. Like, the cops show up to this, like, party, and now you guys don't know the scene.
Chris Cody
Yeah, I love this I don't know 25 scene. For sure.
Stugotz
I don't.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
It's a great scene.
Stugotz
I mean, I know the scene you're talking about. I don't think Jerry Stiller was.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Before the cops bust in. Jerry Stiller's the father of the. Of the wife.
Dan Le Batard
Jerry still is not in Cat Stiller was not in Catch Frank Costanza.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Yeah, I'm thinking of the wrong actor.
Stugotz
Jerry Stiller is Ben Stiller's dad, and he plays George Costanza's dad on Seinfeld.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
That's a. Yeah, I'm thinking of.
Dave
Are you thinking of a scene in Seinfeld?
Mike Ryan Ruiz
You know what I'm thinking of? I'm thinking of Vince Vaughn from the Pitch.
Dan Le Batard
All right, let's.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Let's get here.
Stugotz
I was just clear.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I was thinking of his dad. I thought of Sheen's dad. That's what I'm thinking of. I'm sorry, but it's him, man. Now you picture him with the lady and they're like, there's music. They're doing dishes.
Dan Le Batard
Love Jerry Stiller in this film.
Dave
Both great comedic actors.
Israel Gutierrez
Frank Costanza, you got confused with the guy who narrates Apocalypse Now.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I got my current actors dads confused.
Dave
Frankenstein, President Bartlett are similar to you.
Dan Le Batard
No, Now I want Apocalypse now narrated by Jerry Stiller.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I'm so confident, too.
Dave
Serenity now.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Stop the show. I stopped the show.
Stugotz
I was so confident. No, you didn't. No, it was good. It was good, man.
Dan Le Batard
We workshopped it. I'm like, you sure?
Stugotz
We got there. We got there.
Dan Le Batard
Chris, he was like, who's Ben Stiller's dad? I'm like, I can answer this question for you, but I don't understand what it has to do with Catch Me if youf Can. He's like, no, I got it.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
All right, Sheen.
Israel Gutierrez
I deep dived it. By the way, just for the record, 1994, the single greatest year for movies.
Stugotz
Wow.
Dave
That was Pulp Fiction. Forrest Gump, right?
Israel Gutierrez
That's right. 96 is close. 97 is close. There are other good candidates in the 70s, but 96 wins.
Dan Le Batard
You have Jurassic Park 2 in 94, right?
Israel Gutierrez
I believe so.
Stugotz
No, no, no, no.
Israel Gutierrez
We're going to have to look it up.
Stugotz
Jurassic Park 2. That was not.
Dan Le Batard
No, no, no. Jurassic park as well.
Stugotz
Oh, okay. That was 93. Ah.
Dan Le Batard
So 93 was pretty good. I mean, for a filmmaker, that's like Jim Carrey. 1994. Spielberg. 93.
Stugotz
Wow.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
94.
Stugotz
Little Big League.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Blank check.
Stugotz
Yeah, blank check. That's the.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I'm not kidding.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Chris Cody
Forrest Gump is the only theater experience that I've had where A was packed and the only when. No, no, no. Combination of A, it was packed and B, there's a scene where everybody's crying.
Stugotz
When did they cry?
Chris Cody
When Jenny died. Like, the whole place is just like. That's all you hear is just like, sniffling. I was like, 17 years old and I was like, that's wild.
Stugotz
I thought it was the part where Jenny refuses to sleep with forest.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Serial mom.
Dan Le Batard
94, the crow maverick. I mean, Jody Foster, Mel Gibson chemistry that jumped off screen.
Stugotz
Wowza. What were they like, Ed Wood? This is a 94.
Dan Le Batard
94, yeah. Bang on take.
Chris Cody
What year is the Pelican Brief?
Stugotz
That was before.
Chris Cody
It's got to be in the same area that took 93. Who would leave.
Dan Le Batard
The movie theaters in 1994? It's incredible. I remember had something for everybody.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Baby's Day Out.
Stugotz
Baby's Day out. Waterworld was 94.
Dan Le Batard
I watched Baby's Day out last week. Does not hold.
Stugotz
My dad made me watch Waterworld in a theater. I never forget it. Like, we're walking. It's like, let's see this movie. I said, but, dad, I've heard it's the worst movie ever made.
Dan Le Batard
You had a good dad.
Stugotz
It can't be that bad. We watched. He walked out. He's like, man, that movie was bad. I'm like, yeah, it wasn't bad. It was awful.
Dan Le Batard
No, it wasn't bad.
Stugotz
Waterworld was.
Dan Le Batard
No, Waterworld's great.
Chris Cody
Clifford, Was that also 94?
Israel Gutierrez
Clifford is not a bad movie.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Love that movie.
Dan Le Batard
Blank man in the army now.
Stugotz
Blank Man.
Chris Cody
I thought Conspiracy Theory might have been in that, but they're a couple years later. I think it's like 96, 97.
Stugotz
What? Conspiracy theory in 97.
Dan Le Batard
Karina. Karina.
Stugotz
You know Alan. Karina. Karina. The Conspiracy Theory. I remember it came. I saw it, like the same week I saw the Game with Michael Douglas. I love that movie. But I turned into like a complete paranoid schizophrenic for the next month because everything was like, oh, what's going on? Like, who are these people following me? And stuff.
Chris Cody
That movie reminds me of when soundtracks mattered because Lauryn Hill has the Can't Take My Eyes off of youf song. And in the beginning of it, she says, conspiracy Theory.
Stugotz
What?
Chris Cody
And it's just like, wait a second. What does that have to do with anything you said? Oh, she said it. It was on the soundtrack for the movie.
Stugotz
Okay, let me tell you something, man. Kids at home, you don't know this. Once upon a time, the number one vehicle delivery system of fire music was a movie soundtrack.
Dave
I loved movie soundtrack.
Stugotz
And it's not like, hey, oh, they got that song that I know from. No, no, no. It'd be brand new music. You didn't know anything about it. And then you go out and buy. You go watch the movie, hear the song. Head straight to Sam Goody.
Dave
Artists were told what the plot of the movie is. Can you write us a song?
Stugotz
Can you write us a song?
Chris Cody
And then there are just songs that belong in movies just for some reason or other. The Cran Dreams by the Cranberries. Like, that has a tune to it that is just meant for, like, a road trip scene.
Stugotz
I thought you were saying, like, the car taking off. La, la, la, la, la, la.
Dan Le Batard
That's a great soundtrack.
Stugotz
Great soundtrack.
Israel Gutierrez
And a lot of people.
Dave
Batman Forever, right?
Dan Le Batard
A lot of people took Batman Forever. The Schumacher Batmans, there's. They took the source material very literal when it came to the soundtrack. He had a song called Poison Ivy. R. Kelly was the first man with the courage to be like, has anyone done a song dedicated to Gotham City yet?
Stugotz
I'm looking over the skyline of the city among quiet lights in the mix of car.
Dave
I bought that movie soundtrack when.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, it was great. It was a city of justice.
Stugotz
Oh, that was. That was Batman and Robin, though, that soundtrack. Yes. The city of peace for every one of us. Cause we all need it. Can't live without it. I got them sit at.
Dan Le Batard
It's gonna be an awkward karaoke night, but I'm down. I'll back you up.
Stugotz
Let me tell you something. That is the mo. I have a whole. You can ask Fuentes. I have a whole playlist of the.
Dan Le Batard
Canceled, but we listened to one before the show.
Stugotz
Oh, what'd you guys have?
Dan Le Batard
You can't do Return to Innocence by Enygma on karaoke night. You just can't.
Stugotz
Well, that's not good.
Dan Le Batard
No, no, you can't do it.
Stugotz
You also can do it.
Dan Le Batard
You can't. You can't start your karaoke with Native American chanting. Be like, what is this guy?
Chris Cody
I mean, unless you are Native American.
Stugotz
There you go. That's out. That's the loophole.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. And then you will have everybody's attention, though.
Stugotz
You have to.
Dan Le Batard
If you come out the gates with the start of Return to Innocence, which is an absolute banger and part of the legendary compilation. That was pure moods.
Stugotz
I know what you're saying, but every time you start Return of the. I want you to say the Mac. See? Return of the Mac. Every time. Every time you've said that.
Dan Le Batard
No, I'm of the generation. When I start saying Return, it's not of the back. No, it's to Innocence. Because I had pure moods.
Chris Cody
Pure moods. That is the song Return to Innocence.
Dan Le Batard
I bought it for the X Files theme. I would get great commercial. Because then you would Also get Sail Away, sail Away, sail Away. And then they would be like, you're feeling it. And then all of a sudden Tubular Bells comes on and you're like, I'm a little scared now. The Exorcist was very scary.
Stugotz
My kids know the theme, the X Files, and they don't know what the X Files is. And that bothers me. That's the thing I think bothers me the most about TikTok. It's the decontextualization of everything. They have no idea what that is, but they all know it. Don LeBatard. And then Matt Stafford threw him 25 and two. Oh, there's a brand new kid in town out of BYU Stugats. They call him Buka Nakua. His quarterback is not named Tua. Yeah, he is. Puka. This is the D? Ler show with the St.
Chris Cody
Chris. You still rock Return of the Mac on Fridays after work? Oh, yeah, every single Friday.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
No, not every Friday, but it's in the rotation of Friday jams.
Chris Cody
You don't have a convertible, do you?
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I don't.
Chris Cody
That would be so perfect.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
By the way, the air up there. And the Scout came out in 1990.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, the Scout.
Dave
Scout, like the Scout.
Stugotz
Well, Albert Brooks.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Israel Gutierrez
94. Pulp Fiction.
Stugotz
Okay.
Israel Gutierrez
One of the five best movies of all time, let alone the next one, is Hoop Dreams is not one of now one of my five or ten favorite movies. I think it didn't even get nominated for best documentary. Not best film, not best picture. It wasn't even nominated for best documentary. The serendipity of Hoop Dreams. They were supposed to, you know, was gonna sort of study how schools use kids, but kids can use the schools too to advance themselves for scholarships and all of that. And instead the. The one kid, Arthur Ag doesn't make it at the prep school, so he has to go back to inner city Chicago. And the.
Dan Le Batard
Can you. Spoiler alert.
Dave
A doc from 30 years ago, I.
Israel Gutierrez
Mean, but the side by side of Ag versus Gates as they go. And you watch Ag shrink in the classroom and Gates emerge, but then the knee injury. What a picture. What a picture.
Stugotz
It was an amazing. It was amazing.
Israel Gutierrez
But there's a fair amount of luck. I mean, the commitment to four years of following around these two kids. But then the good fortune, not for Arthur Agee, but the fact that he has to go back to Chicago and his father, I mean, the shots at a distance of his old man deal and crack on the playground. I mean, it is. And then that AG makes it and they go down to Champaign for the state tournament. And as his family is walking the Illinois campus, the University of Illinois campus. It's like they're on Mars. They're like, can you believe what a place this is? Can you imagine? This is what college looks like. It's so striking. The have and have nots of all.
Dan Le Batard
It is.
Israel Gutierrez
And then the cinematic payoff that Arthur Agee is one of the critical members of the team that beats the guy. It's just the best. And then the sadness of Gates, how they use him with his knee injury and how he gets cast aside. What a picture. And then Shawshank Redemption. Nobody's Fool. Paul Newman. Wildly underrated. Great small picture. Quiz show. Dumb and Dumber. Speed. Gump, like we talk about. Cabin boy is a gem.
Dave
Cabin boy.
Dan Le Batard
These pipes are clean real quick.
Chris Cody
Calling a movie a picture, does it make it sound like you work in Hollywood or does it just make you sound old?
Israel Gutierrez
That's how William David Damoshek likes to say it. Nice to meet you.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Film's the worst. Film's the worst thing.
Chris Cody
Wild Billy Thursday.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Little giants.
Stugotz
Also 94 talkies is what I call them. Hold on. Was English Patient the one that won that year? Yeah.
Chris Cody
So boring.
Stugotz
94. That was one of the worst.
Israel Gutierrez
No, Gump wins.
Stugotz
Gump won. English Patient was the next year 95.
Israel Gutierrez
95. I have excluded from my all time rankings. 96 is a strong year as well. Fargo, Kingpin, Bottle Rocket Swingers. Waiting for Guffman. Another great sports documentary. When We Were Kings. You want to know why Ali is one of the most important figures of the 20th century? Go watch that one. Jerry Maguire is a splendid script. And by the way, as a side note, I have recently come around on the idea of Tom Cruise is. This sounds hyperbolic. The greatest movie star in the history.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
I don't think it's pandering to my grandmother.
Chris Cody
Second biggest Tom Cruise fan in that room.
Stugotz
Jesus.
Israel Gutierrez
I know.
Dan Le Batard
96. He also came out with Mission Impossible, by the way. Very strong year.
Dave
I don't think that's hyperbole.
Stugotz
You want to talk about movies that hold up. Watched the first Mission Impossible with my kids. They loved it.
Israel Gutierrez
It's so confusing.
Stugotz
They loved it.
Dave
That's how I feel.
Stugotz
I did have to explain a bunch of things. The whole double, triple, quadruple cross. So they didn't get it, but they enjoyed it like I thought they wouldn't enjoy it.
Dan Le Batard
Not unlike the X Files in that the theme song somehow outweighed the greatness of the TV show. In Mission Impossible's case, by grand amount The Mission Impossible theme. So much better than the show.
Israel Gutierrez
My 10 year old boy walks around singing the Jardiance theme. Take once daily jaudiance at each day. Start prescription drug commercials.
Stugotz
Yeah, we get a lot of. In my household, we get a lot of Burger King, Whopper, Whopper, Whopper. That one. And then what's the other one? It's another prescription.
Dan Le Batard
What happens if you have a structured settlement but you need cash now?
Stugotz
Call JG rent 877. Yo, how crazy is that, man? It's such a. It's such a like low grade like everything about it. But the jingle is so fire that everybody knows it. Between that one and 1-877-cars for kids. Right?
Dan Le Batard
Everybody hates that one.
Stugotz
But no, but you know it though. You don't matter whether you like it or not. They know it wrong.
Dave
I don't understand. Why is it such a big deal for kids to get cars? Yeah, like why is. It feels like it's a movement, you know when I hear that commercial.
Stugotz
What.
Dave
Why do. Why do kids need cars?
Stugotz
And not only that, they don't even want to pay for them. They want you to donate. Yeah, donate the cars.
Dave
Why is it. Why is it a 16 year old 7 year old's right to get a car? Maybe they don't get a car.
Dan Le Batard
Maybe not just cars anymore. You can donate boats.
Stugotz
Boats.
Dave
I don't get it.
Stugotz
Boats for kids. 1-877-Boats for kids. I guess it works.
Chris Cody
You know what song could play at any time growing up? It could be anywhere. It's an absolute banger. The Knight Rider theme music.
Stugotz
Michael Knight, a shadowy figure in the underworld.
Dan Le Batard
Buster Rhymes made a cover out.
Stugotz
Yeah, yeah. And Timbaland too. Timbaland. Magoo did it first. Oh yeah.
Chris Cody
I always forget about Magoo.
Stugotz
Everybody forgets about Magoo. RIP Passed away not too long ago.
Dave
Awesome.
Stugotz
The. Another theme song. That was great. A team. Come on now. Come on. But like the build up. In 1979, a crack commando team was, you know, accused of a crime they didn't commit. They were trying to retreated to the LA underworld where whatever. Whatever.
Chris Cody
I mean really like the monologue.
Stugotz
Oh, I love this. Like if you can find them, if you can afford them, maybe you can hire the A team. We don't have great TV show theme songs.
Israel Gutierrez
They don't do them anymore time they. They dispense skip intro.
Stugotz
That's what happens.
Dan Le Batard
Does a classic intro, right?
Stugotz
I do like it. I do like the Law and Order intro.
Israel Gutierrez
In the criminal case, Family Ties had a memorable one.
Chris Cody
I mean my favorite all time is.
Stugotz
Welcome back.
Dan Le Batard
Johnny Mathis.
Stugotz
Johnny Mathis.
Dan Le Batard
They're not writing original pieces for theme songs anymore. Really? They just get an existing song that works.
Israel Gutierrez
Well, commercial is the best.
Chris Cody
Commercials used to do original music. Big red gum, Juicy Fruit. That big red freshness lasts right through your fresh breast.
Stugotz
Goes on and on while you chew it.
Chris Cody
Say goodbye.
Dan Le Batard
Juicy Fruit was better. We didn't have one.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Damn, you guys are old.
Dan Le Batard
Juicy Fruit. It's gonna move you.
Chris Cody
Yes.
Stugotz
Double mint, double refreshment, double your fun. That's a statement from the great man. A double man.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Fresh makes fresher.
Stugotz
Mentos. Fall in line. Jingles, man.
Dave
The fresh maker.
Stugotz
What happened to jingles, man?
Mike Ryan Ruiz
That was the banger.
Stugotz
All we got is 877 cash.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Now the guy's like, I'm gonna lay down on this bench.
Dan Le Batard
No. We are farmers. JK Simmons. Not a Jackal.
Stugotz
Yes. That's not a good jingle.
Dan Le Batard
Safe flight.
Stugotz
Safe flight. That's not a good jingle.
Dan Le Batard
There's one.
Stugotz
That's the best jingle.
Dan Le Batard
What's a. What's a Travel1? The UK travel.
Stugotz
Get to holiday. That's. That's a real song. Travelocity.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Locally in Desmond and Dover. It's like a law firm slaps.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not getting those.
Dave
Boy, I'll tell you. You want to guess what the Jackal is on Rotten Tomatoes?
Stugotz
24%. How do you know I'm a good guesser?
Dan Le Batard
It's what he does.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
Kind of his lane.
Stugotz
I have a podcast. It's called Cinephobe.
Dave
It doesn't mean you're gonna remember it.
Stugotz
We'll review movies that are poorly rated on Rotten Tomatoes.
Dave
Yeah, I know that.
Stugotz
And try to figure out the accurately rated. Or maybe they didn't get a fair shake. It's called Cinephobe. You get it wherever you get podcasts. It's produced by Anthony Mays. This week, guys. Highlander 2, the Quickening. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Dave
Audience score for the Jackal.
Stugotz
Audience score. I don't care what the audience. Okay.
Dan Le Batard
I think it was probably better 51. What are the reviews saying about Richard Gere's accent? It's one of the worst accents I've ever heard. No, I think it's definitely going to be there. It has to be there. See if there's any. It has to be the main take takeaway. The film literally falls off the second he opens his mouth.
Stugotz
We did. We did Dracula 2000. And in it, Jennifer Esposito.
Chris Cody
The name of the movie. Dracula 2000.
Stugotz
Dracula 2000. The reason why that movie got made legitimately is because it was called Dracula 2000. So they greenlit it. They started filming shortly before Halloween. Started filming, excuse me, like in middle of summer. And it was released December of 2000, including reshoots with Nathan Fillion that they did on Halloween. The only reason it was greenlit was because it was called Dracula 2000. So the movie had to come out before 2000 was over.
Chris Cody
So they barely got under the wire.
Stugotz
Oh, my God, it is glorious. Gerard Butler as a vampire, as Dracula. Spoiler alert. Excuse me. As Judas.
Dan Le Batard
Does he have to bite people using the side of his mouth too?
Stugotz
The teeth kept breaking because of how he talks. Yeah, I think the way he talks makes him talk out the side of his mouth. But the reason I bring it up is because in that movie, Jennifer Esposito, her first scene, she's like an assistant and she's trying to go for a British accent and literally like three lines in, she's like, you know what? F this, I'm just gonna start talking in my regular voice.
Dave
Really?
Stugotz
Yep. And the rest of the movie, she doesn't have an accent. But her first, like, couple lines, she's. She's like. She's trying to go for it and then it's like, just gives out. Hey, guys, Mike Ryan wants to talk about how the Clippers are called the Unction.
Dan Le Batard
Have you seen this? I didn't want to talk about it. The nickname reached Chris Paul because I don't know if you've seen their roster. Bunch of old heads.
Stugotz
The Expendables.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, you have. Well, the Unction. No, no, no, the Unction. You have James Harden, you have Kawhi Leonard, you have role players like Chris Dunn. Nick Batum is out here still doing it.
Chris Cody
Oh, because they're uncles.
Dan Le Batard
That's right.
Stugotz
A function that has a lot of uncles becomes an unction. It's kind of like the oppos opposite of what Chris Cody does.
Israel Gutierrez
I waged a 20 year battle that I've ultimately conceded I've waved the white flag on. They did the new uniforms. They have the new arena now in LA for the Clippers. For the longest time, you're never. You could win five titles and it's never going to be a Clippers town. It will always be a Lakers town. So you should recognize that and not be the Los Angeles anything. You should be the Hollywood Knights with a K. But now Vegas stole that. The Hollywood stars, the Hollywood Rhinos for the double entendre of rhinoplasty. Which is popular. Well, not as much I mean, I think that's overstated.
Mike Ryan Ruiz
That would be hilarious. The Rhinos.
Israel Gutierrez
But we can work on the nickname. I once asked a bunch of Clippers this is many moons ago as the person who gets it right will prove. I asked a bunch of Clippers what a Clipper is. Only Chris Kamen and Sean Livingston knew knew the correct answer. No one else knew.
Dan Le Batard
Sean Livingston, only person in NBA history to never miss a mid range jump.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Do you think this time it's going to work for the Clippers? You know, they have a roster that got a bunch of players on it that are always hurt. But now that they're older, do you think it's finally going to work out?
Stugotz
Yeah, especially because they went out and got a couple of guys who got hurt a lot too.
Chris Cody
Now that they have an older Chris Paul, it's definitely an older Kawhi Leonard.
Stugotz
Everyone's hurt. Yeah. No, this is 17th time is the charm as they say.
Dave
Isn't a Clipper a ship?
Israel Gutierrez
Correct. A fast moving ship.
Dan Le Batard
Howdy folks, it's Mike Ryan.
Mike Ryan
Happy summertime everybody. Summer is fantastic.
Dan Le Batard
A lot of outdoor activities, a lot.
Mike Ryan
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hour 1: Apocalypse Now Narrated by Jerry Stiller
Release Date: July 31, 2025
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, host Dan Le Batard, alongside co-hosts Stugotz, Chris Cody, Dave, Mike Ryan Ruiz, and Israel Gutierrez, delves into a myriad of topics ranging from recent developments in the sports media landscape to light-hearted discussions about movie soundtracks and sports team nicknames. The episode, titled "Apocalypse Now Narrated by Jerry Stiller," offers an engaging blend of serious commentary and humorous banter, providing listeners with insightful perspectives and entertaining moments.
Timestamp: 00:08 - 02:34
The episode kicks off with a discussion about Shannon Sharpe's recent release from ESPN. Stugotz introduces the topic by stating:
"Shannon Sharpe, released by ESPN. No longer an employee after a. Almost like a blaze of glory across the screen when he was on First Take. But that time is over now, I believe." (00:15)
The hosts speculate on the reasons behind Sharpe's dismissal, with Dan Le Batard suggesting:
"And even some of those worst people that you can imagine were like, okay, that's a damning settlement number." (01:00)
They discuss the possible implications of the settlement amount and its impact on Sharpe's future with ESPN, pondering whether he might return in the future or if ESPN's decision signals a permanent farewell.
Timestamp: 02:00 - 04:35
The conversation transitions to dissecting the nature of legal settlements, particularly in the context of Sharpe's departure. Stugotz clarifies:
"Settlements don't mean an admission of guilt. Settlement, like, most of the time is because it is just cheaper and faster to pay them to go away than to go through the litigation process." (01:24)
Dan adds insight into the significance of the settlement amount, emphasizing its impact on public perception and ESPN's reputation:
"And you'll see the number attached and you're like, wow, that's a big." (01:00)
The hosts debate the likelihood of such settlements becoming precedents and how they reflect on both the employer and employee involved.
Timestamp: 05:00 - 08:18
Shifting gears, the show delves into amusing discussions about names, particularly those within the sports world. Stugotz shares:
"This is one of my favorite trivia pieces. NBA related. O.J. Mayo, remember him?" (05:12)
The conversation highlights quirky name patterns, such as siblings sharing similar or complementary names, and the confusion that can arise from them. Topics include:
These light-hearted segments provide listeners with entertaining trivia and relatable humor about everyday name-related scenarios.
Timestamp: 09:27 - 14:23
A significant portion of the episode centers on Marcus Morris Sr.'s recent arrest for fraud related to defrauding several Las Vegas properties. The hosts break down the situation, focusing on how the news was portrayed versus Morris's response on social media.
Stugotz summarizes the incident:
"Marcus Morris took to Threads to clarify... 'Fraud is taking money or using money knowing it's not yours or not being used in the way that it was given.'" (13:50)
Key points discussed include:
Notable Quote:
"This is from me, a man who built his career on morals and character. Never running or ducking from anything." – Marcus Morris Sr. (13:50)
The hosts empathize with Morris's situation, discussing the broader implications for public figures facing legal troubles and the importance of accurate media representation.
Timestamp: 17:44 - 19:01
Post-advertisements, the discussion resumes with a comparison between Gilbert Arenas and Marcus Morris regarding their respective experiences exiting incarceration.
Chris Cody poses the question:
"Who did it better? Who got out of jail better, Gilbert Arenas or Marcus Morris?" (17:44)
Stugotz contends Arenas handled his comeback more gracefully, stating:
"I could see how that would bother him." (18:25)
The conversation highlights:
This segment underscores the nuances of public forgiveness and the varying paths individuals take to rebuild their reputations.
Timestamp: 19:01 - 36:54
A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to an enthusiastic discussion about favorite movies, particularly focusing on the vibrant film years of the early to mid-1990s.
Key Highlights:
Favorite Years in Cinema:
Movie Soundtracks:
Favorite Films and Characters:
Notable Quotes:
"1994, the crow maverick. I mean, Jody Foster, Mel Gibson chemistry that jumped off screen." – Dan Le Batard (22:03)
"Kids at home, you don't know this. Once upon a time, the number one vehicle delivery system of fire music was a movie soundtrack." – Stugotz (24:37)
This segment serves as a nostalgic trip for the hosts, celebrating the golden years of cinema and the enduring legacy of memorable movie music.
Timestamp: 38:47 - 40:39
The discussion shifts to current basketball topics, specifically focusing on the Los Angeles Clippers and their nickname.
Key Points:
Nickname Debate:
The team is humorously referred to as "The Unction," a play on the word "Clippers," based on the roster's perceived dynamics.
Chris Cody jokes:
"Oh, because they're uncles." (38:56)
Team Roster and Performance:
Future Prospects:
Notable Quotes:
"A function that has a lot of uncles becomes an unction. It's kind of like the opposite of what Chris Cody does." – Stugotz (39:15)
"They have the new arena now in LA for the Clippers. For the longest time, you're never...it will always be a Lakers town." – Israel Gutierrez (39:53)
This segment provides a humorous yet insightful look into the Clippers' challenges and the broader context of sports team branding and success.
Throughout this episode, The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a balanced mix of serious discussions about significant events in the sports world and light-hearted conversations about movies and cultural phenomena. From dissecting the intricacies of Shannon Sharpe's departure and Marcus Morris Sr.'s legal troubles to reminiscing about classic movie soundtracks and debating sports team nicknames, the hosts ensure an engaging and comprehensive listening experience. Notable for their candidness and camaraderie, Dan Le Batard and his co-hosts provide listeners with both depth and entertainment, making this episode a standout installment in their series.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe Departure:
"That's a number. It may not be." – Dan Le Batard (02:00)
Settlement Implications:
"Settlements don't mean an admission of guilt." – Stugotz (01:24)
Marcus Morris Sr.'s Response:
"This is from me, a man who built his career on morals and character. Never running or ducking from anything." – Marcus Morris Sr. (13:50)
Movie Soundtracks:
"Kids at home, you don't know this. Once upon a time, the number one vehicle delivery system of fire music was a movie soundtrack." – Stugotz (24:37)
Clippers' Nickname:
"A function that has a lot of uncles becomes an unction. It's kind of like the opposite of what Chris Cody does." – Stugotz (39:15)
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