Hour 1: BOOOORDDERRR WAAAARRRRR (feat. Lucy Rohden)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: BOOOORDDERRR WAAAARRRRR (feat. Lucy Rohden)

Date: September 9, 2025
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Guests: Lucy Rohden, Zach Zaslow
Main Theme: Deep-dive into college football’s wild weekend, sports media quirks, and legendary coach rants—with signature comedic banter and live vibes from the American heartland.

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Episode Overview

This episode sees Dan, Stugotz, Lucy Rohden, and Zach Zaslow tackle the chaos and comedy of college football’s biggest rivalry weekends, dissect unwritten traditions, and debate sports television’s best inventions. The group navigates Iowa’s “El Assico”, the Mississippi-Missouri "border war", coaching hot seats, the evolving NFL, and sports media’s unforgettable meltdowns—always with a wink and a wisecrack.

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Key Segment Summaries & Timestamps

1. Lucy in Ames: The “El Assico” Experience

[02:22 – 06:23]

• Rivalry Energy: Lucy and Zach report from the Iowa-Iowa State game (“Cy Hawk”/“El Assico”) in Ames, in full local color. Lucy’s enthusiasm bleeds through even as she acknowledges “Iowa is El ass at football. I hate them every day.”

  • Quote (Lucy, 02:22): “Look at me now. So happy, full of joy. I feel like this isn't going to be me at the end...I don't have a good feeling about this.”

• Traditions & Tensions: Casey’s breakfast pizza gets its due, tailgating rituals lauded and savaged, and rivalry burns hot.

  • “Love Casey’s. Hate Iowa State.” (Lucy, 03:38)

• Friendships test boundaries: Alcohol is the truest balm. “Win or lose, we booze.”

• Game fallout: Iowa loses, offensive woes linger, Lucy demands an end to suffering:

  • “Maybe in the future we could send me to less Iowa games. I think that would be cool. I think that would be awesome. I think that would be super rock and roll.” (Lucy, 06:02)

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2. College Football’s Legendary Rivalries: “Border War” Antics & Prosthetic Kicking

[07:16 – 10:13]

• Sports TV gold: Dan hypes the new trend of field goal contests for fans—huge sums for one kick.

  • “...giving people tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars if they can make a field goal is an excellent, excellent sports television idea.” (Dan, 07:47)

• Missouri’s viral “border war” moment:
  A Missouri fan with a prosthetic leg gets $25k if he scores—a miss, but kicks toward the Kansas sideline in pure rivalry spite.

  • “I hate Kansas so much. I want to kick the ball at war.” (Zach, paraphrasing, 08:45)
  • Prosthetic leg debated—kicking foot is unclear, but misfire is memorable.
  • The crowd loves the chaos, but Lucy reduces it: “Terrible kick, though. It barely made it over to the sideline.”

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3. Classic Rants: Mike Gundy vs. Coastal Carolina, and the Best Sports Meltdowns

[11:56 – 16:06] & [21:11 – 24:29]

• Mike Gundy, “I’m a Man, I’m 40!”
  The OSU coach’s career defined not by wins but by his viral podium blowup—and the show relishes the re-enactment.

  • "That’s why I don’t read the newspaper, because it’s garbage. And the editor that let it come out is garbage.” (Dan/Lucy tag-team, 21:25–21:57)
  • Lucy can recite the entire rant from memory (“I got really bored one day, so I just learned the whole thing.” – Lucy, 21:59)

• Coastal Carolina's “We need more dogs” rant enters the ring:
  Lucy contends it might surpass Gundy’s epic.

  • “We don’t need no meows. We don’t need no cats. We need more dogs.” (Dan/Coastal Carolina Coach, 24:16)

• The Meltdown Tournament:
  The crew imagines a bracket for the greatest press conference tirades—Mike Leach, Brian Kelly, and even pro sports (“The Bears are who we thought they were!”) all get their due.

  • “If you want to crown them, then crown their ass. But they are who we thought they were and we let them off the hook!” (Dan, 25:35)

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4. College Football Hot Seats & Surprises:

[12:33 – 16:06]; [18:44 – 20:54]

• Billy Napier, Florida’s embattled coach:
  With a brutal schedule and questionable play-calling, the gang debates if he survives the season.

  • Zach: “He is clearly, like, just doesn't have a grasp on this.” (14:12)
  • Lucy: “If they're sitting at 1 and 4, Napier is not getting to that Texas A&M game.” (15:22)

• South Florida & Miami’s resurgence:
  South Florida’s “very good football team” is praised, with wishful calls for more GameDay attention.

  • Zach: “I think Miami is much better than South Florida, but, like, that is a very, very good football team.” (14:12)

• Near-future storylines:
  SEC is “wide open,” playoff picture unsettled, and Texas/Ohio State’s early clash complicates outlook.

  • “This is anybody’s year.” (Dan, 19:53)
  • “It feels so wide open...” (Zach, 20:16)

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5. NFL: Overanalysis, Coaching, & Quarterback Angst

[28:44 – 38:18]

• Jared Goff and the Coachability Conundrum:
  Detroit’s franchise guy is “allowed a week”; Lucy argues for grace, Dan muses on the rare path between mediocrity and excellence.

  • “It's not...we're not talking about Brock Purdy here. He was the number one overall pick, Jared Goff.” (Lucy, 29:35)
  • “His most signature moment is losing his mind...in a press conference.” (Dan, 39:57)

• Coaching Decisions (Ben Johnson, Harbaugh):
  The crew debates when outsmarting analytics turns into self-destruction, focusing on botched late-game sequences.

• Quarterbacks Under Pressure:
  Dan proposes that “militaristic” discipline and turnover-phobia are leading to cautious, less spectacular quarterback play.

  • “Is it possible...that these guys are so militaristic in their disciplines...that Josh Allen being a thoroughbred at the end of the game, just running all over the field is when he's let loose...Now I'm loose and I don't have to worry about all this bullshit anymore.” (Dan, 31:38)

• Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Kansas City’s Adjustment:
  Mahomes’ deep threat is questioned, Lucy defends his performance amid injuries, and Dan jokes about “already” trade rumors.

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6. Notable, Off-Beat Moments & Quotes

• On Iowa State:

  • Lucy: “This bridge is okay.” (05:01) – on forced praise for the rival.
  • Zach: “How do you guys make your friendship work?” Lucy: “Alcohol.” (03:51)

• Best sports inventions:

  • Dan: “The McAfee field goal kick is the best sports invention I have seen in a long time for sports television.” (07:47)

• On Justin Bieber’s ringtone:

  • “That was Justin Bieber’s ringtone for a while. Was the I'm a man, I'm 40.” (Zach, 24:38)
  • [39:13] Live clip: Bieber’s phone goes off—Gundy rant plays.

• On fans, rivalry, and culture:

  • Lucy: “It's just like...pet falling on your pant leg, and you just want to smack them because they want to be you.” (05:06)

• On State Farm/Monarch/Brand Insults:

  • The crew sarcastically slings sponsor slogans; signature show blend of snark and necessity.

• Defensive players’ joy:

  • Dan: “A defensive player never gets to feel quite as good as Jalen Ramsey and Landman felt this week.” (42:12)

• Classic closing burn:

  • Zach: “I hope he has the day he deserves.” (28:04)
  • Dan: “It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out. That's a less Southern 'Bless your heart.'” (28:24)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Maybe in the future we could send me to less Iowa games. I think that would be super rock and roll.”
  Lucy Rohden, 06:02

• “If you want to crown them, then crown their ass. But they are who we thought they were.”
  Dan Le Batard, channeling Dennis Green, 25:35

• “This is anybody’s year. Feels.”
  Dan Le Batard, 19:53

• “We don’t need no meows. We don’t need no cats. We need more dogs.”
  Coastal Carolina Coach, as performed by Dan & Lucy, 24:16

• “Come after me. I’m a man. I’m 40!”
  Mike Gundy via Lucy, multiple points (21:51, 24:44, 43:42)

• “I hope he has the day he deserves.”
  Zach Zaslow, 28:04

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Original Tone & Style

The episode lives in the borderlands between earnest fandom, biting sports commentary, and absurdist humor. Lucy’s deadpan passion for Iowa, Dan’s winding monologues, and Zach’s wry asides result in an hour that’s equal part college football symposium and stand-up set—with regular forays into sports television’s mythology, locker room “dogs and cats,” and the enduring power of a well-timed meltdown.

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If You Missed It: Why Listen?

• Experience the madness of college football rivalries with on-the-ground tales, culinary commentary, and ultimate fan rants.
• Hear key debates on coaching security, playoff prospects, and the NFL’s cautious evolution.
• Reminisce—or learn—about the greatest coaching rants of all-time (with perfect recreations).
• Laugh at both sports culture and sports media’s quirks, from Justin Bieber’s ringtone to “ram tough” linemen and sponsor snark.
• Catch the pod’s signature blend of insight, irreverence, and rapport.

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For Deeper Listening

• [02:22–06:23] — Lucy and Zach’s El Assico odyssey
• [07:16–10:13] — Border war & prosthetic misfire story
• [11:56–16:06] — Gundy rant saga and College Football hot seat
• [21:11–24:29] — Rant-off: Gundy vs. Coastal Carolina
• [28:44–38:18] — NFL coaching disasters, Mahomes, and “make or break” QBs
• [39:13] — Bieber’s Gundy ringtone, and Lucy’s full dramatic monologue (42:24–43:44)

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In summary:
An episode bursting with rivalry heat, smart college football takes, and a celebration of the spontaneous comedy that only true sports fans (and their enemies) can produce.

Transcript

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[Lucy Rodin]

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[Zach Zaslow]

God, he's so full of. We're here in Ames, Iowa for El Asico, the Cy Hawk game. Look at me now. So happy, full of joy. I feel like this isn't going to be me at the end. I don't. I don't have a good feeling about this. The official name for the game is Psy Hawk, however they call it El Assico. It's usually an ass football game. Iowa is El ass at football. I hate them every day.

[Lucy Rodin]

This is Iowa's super bowl right here.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, this is our Super Bowl.

[Zach Zaslow]

This rivalry is huge. It's like Christmas in Iowa. Yesterday was like the 3rd of July. Today is the 4th of July. Are you a Lebitard show fan or just a Lucy fan?

[Lucy Rodin]

Oh, I'm a lucy fan, but LeBatard's good, too. Literally.

[Zach Zaslow]

There's only one thing to say.

[Lucy Rodin]

The Hogs.

[Zach Zaslow]

You don't need to say that. You know, there are children around here. Your shirt is rude. First and foremost. What is the science behind a bird having teeth? So a tradition here in Iowa is Casey's breakfast pizza, which is exactly what it sounds like. It's pizza, but breakfast. This is well done. This is really good.

[Lucy Rodin]

Love Casey's. Hate Iowa State. So a lot of people think that we are going to lose this game, but I have faith in our Hawkeyes that we're gonna whoop some ass. I almost choked on my pizza. We're gonna win this game.

[Zach Zaslow]

How do you guys make your friendship work today? It's been a little difficult, I have to say. Alcohol. Win or lose, we booze. This trip to the Sidehawk game was brought to you by Fox 1. We live for live streaming right now. Is Kranelski.

[Lucy Rodin]

Bad pass. He had a rough start last game, I'd say, but I think he'll pull it together. I think he'll pull it together.

[Zach Zaslow]

He was bad, though. All right. How would you guys describe the Iowa offense? Well, we say defense wins games. They planned that.

[Lucy Rodin]

Defense wins championships. It's all that matters.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Hawks got a great run game. Shut up.

[Zach Zaslow]

No, I like that answer. You shut up. That was a good one. I don't like the reactions we're getting today.

[Lucy Rodin]

It's kind of been hard to watch, but we can get back.

[Zach Zaslow]

We've been doing it without offense for so long. Like, why start now?

[Lucy Rodin]

Correct poverty offerings. They might make it, like, 22 yards.

[Dan Le Batard]

And then they're done.

[Lucy Rodin]

They're just gassed. Learning how to get up and take a piss for the offensive side instead of just commercials has kind of been. Kind of been a weird thing to get used to.

[Zach Zaslow]

All right, can you say something nice about Iowa State? Can you say something nice about Iowa State?

[Lucy Rodin]

This bridge is okay.

[Zach Zaslow]

It's a nice bridge. How would you describe this Iowa State rivalry?

[Lucy Rodin]

It's just like. There's a little. So it's like pet falling on your pant leg, and you just want to smack them because they want to be you. It's like, just leave me alone.

[Zach Zaslow]

How did you get your tickets for today's game? I use this app called Game Time. Super easy, super fast, and also super cheap. Do you use Code Lucy? I didn't. Don't be like her. Use Code Lucy. Download the Game Time app. Use code lucy for $20 off your first order terms apply. Go away. Get this camera out of my face. Okay. Iowa lost. Yeah. Turns out they're kind of bad at offense. I don't know who could have seen that one come in. Maybe in the future we could send me to less Iowa games. I think that would be cool. I think that would be awesome. I think that would be super rock and roll. No comments on the rest of this stuff. I am so sorry. The Iowa State band is. Is so annoying. We get it. You want. I'm not even mad about that. I'm sure they're lovely kids.

[Dan Le Batard]

Zip it.

[Zach Zaslow]

Why do you need so many tubas? You don't need that. Nobody needs that many tubas. Oh, God. I gotta get out of here. For realsies.

[Dan Le Batard]

Excellent. Excellent use of generic music there. Welcome back to one of my favorite sports media personalities, Iowa, as I like to call her. I'm sorry this is delayed but.

[Lucy Rodin]

Minor penalty. Two minutes for verbal diarrhea.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're going out, right? So, Tony, no, you've got to leave Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray is not exciting. I'm done with exciting.

[Lucy Rodin]

Kyler Murray, like, okay. You lack vision. That's the issue. You lack vision with quarterback. You're mad that I have it. You're kicking me out because I have vision. That's okay. I don't understand being the guy. It's like Daniel Jones. Yes. Trevor. Trevor Lawrence. Yes. Brock Purdy. Yes. Kyler Murray.

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Lucy Rodin]

Now you get it.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right. Get out of here. Put it on the poll Batard show. Do you love breakfast pizza?

[Lucy Rodin]

And you like Davis Mills, too? I like them. Out of here.

[Dan Le Batard]

You did like Davis Mills.

[Lucy Rodin]

Get out of here. You were a Davis Mills guy. Outta here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, I heard ya. I heard you in the other room say Rattler made a couple of throws. Listen to me, Tony. Listen to me. Good. Go off. Your quarterback analysis stinks. Stinks and it stunk since you got here. And somebody has to say it. Lucy, thank you for being on with us. I believe that the field goal kick by McAfee before a game for thousands of dollars is the best sports invention I have seen in a long time for sports television. Can you guys give me some nominees? Because that wasn't even the best kick this weekend. But as an idea, giving people tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars if they can make a field goal is an excellent, excellent sports television idea. And I want you guys to give me somebody, some other recent inventions that are as good as this one. Zads, tell me and tell Lucy what it is that happened in this Missouri game.

[Lucy Rodin]

Oh, my God. I mean, Lucy, you saw this, right? So Missouri, Kansas. I don't know if you know this, Dan. Missouri, Kansas, that's border war. All right? It goes back to the Civil War. That's how serious they take this. All right? And you had a fan, a Missouri fan, who was able to line up and kick a field goal from like 30 yards out or something. If he makes it, he gets $25,000. You know what this kid does? He turns in the direction of the KU sideline, He kicks the football at them. He says, I don't need your money, Lucy. And he kicks the football, the KU sideline, Lucy, that's border war.

[Zach Zaslow]

So first I want to specify not a kid. He's a grown man with children. He is like a full adult. He was offered this the night before. Wasn't going to this game, so rearranged his whole plans. He also has a prosthetic leg. So he was like, I know that I'm not going to be able to make this field goal. Screw this $25,000. I hate Kansas so much. I want to kick the ball at war.

[Lucy Rodin]

Terrible kick, though. It barely made it over to the sideline.

[Zach Zaslow]

Well, then it. It was a good move because he definitely wasn't going to make that 45 yarder. So it was like, okay, I might as well just make it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys are kind. You guys are kind of skipping over the idea that the guy who won this contest has a prosthetic leg. I mean, that's got to be a disqualifier. Doesn't give it to somebody who doesn have a prosthetic leg.

[Zach Zaslow]

I don't think it's his kicking leg.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, wait a minute.

[Lucy Rodin]

Seem to be his right leg.

[Dan Le Batard]

Guys are going to tell me that the left leg that he kicked at that bench, that that's his kicking leg.

[Lucy Rodin]

The holder seems to be holding it like he's a righty kicker. So I think that. No, but maybe the holder was tipped off that he's going to kick it at the sideline, but the laces are out towards the field goal.

[Dan Le Batard]

So he pulls up his shirt and it just says FKU on. On. Jiggly pink flab of water wall.

[Lucy Rodin]

Not that jiggly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Moderate jiggly it's the border war. That is funny, though.

[Lucy Rodin]

That's jiggly. Everything's jiggly. That's jiggly. Dan needs a marathon.

[Zach Zaslow]

That's my sport.

[Lucy Rodin]

I love it.

[Dan Le Batard]

The invention better than McAfee's field goal for $300,000, which was throwing footballs into.

[Lucy Rodin]

A Dr. Pepper thing. Yes, but only with weird motions. Yes. Also the freeze race, like a chess pass in basketball. And one weekend I missed the mascot head. That was so good, Lucy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was telling Mike all of last year that Oklahoma State of Mike Gundy was an apocalyptic disaster of a football team that I just couldn't believe how bad they were. And they're worse this year. Explain to me. What, like, that guy can't keep his job much longer? Kenny.

[Zach Zaslow]

No, I mean, he's already resorted to, like, paying the school back, so he gave money back last year to, you know, put into Oklahoma State's nil fund or their athletic fund, whatever. I think, like, Mike Gundy just really doesn't care anymore. Dan Lanning is, like, notably petty. Where you saw that, like, a few years ago when it, like, Dion in Colorado was this, like, really, really big sensation and Dan went out and gave this, like, big speech or whatever. And then Oregon beat the crap out of Colorado. Mike Gundy decided to start his press conference off this week by, like, shitting all over Oregon, being like, I can't believe they'd spend that much money on players. Which is, like, kind of crazy to say. Then he lifted his shirt up. Weirdly, it was unrelated, but he did lift his shirt up during the presser, which we still are kind of confused by. And so obviously Dan was like, I heard comments. I took it seriously. And then we saw that they won by 60 plus points. And it could have been worse. It very much could have been worse. That it's going to be a long year. Oklahoma State did lose their quarterback, so, like, I'll give them a little benefit of the doubt there, but they were going to be terrible anyways. I don't see him keeping his job, and I honestly don't see him taking another job after this. It's just. It's very bad times in Stillwater.

[Dan Le Batard]

I will forever remember him not for any game that he has won. This is a rare thing, right? This guy's been coaching for 15 years, and I still remember maybe longer. All I remember is that he was for when he was 40 years old because of the viral clip. I'm a man. I'm 40 now.

[Lucy Rodin]

He's a man. He's 58.

[Zach Zaslow]

Here's about that speech. It's a great speech, but I think people forget my favorite part. He's like talking about this paper. So he's got. I've got this article here who is brought. Brought to me by a mother.

[Lucy Rodin]

Garbage.

[Zach Zaslow]

No, he said a mother of children. Yeah, that's. That's what that means.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is what it means. The weekend's big events I thought were limited to you Tell me if I have this wrong. Oklahoma and Florida, those were the college football big events of the weekend, no matter who else was playing. Let's start with Oklahoma. What were your thoughts about them having a better team than they've had the last three or four years when their defense has been good but their offense has been terrible?

[Zach Zaslow]

Yeah, I mean, I thought John Matiere lives up to, to what he was advertised as. Obviously he can be a little crazy sometimes, but that was a good offense. My concern with Oklahoma is Jay Knott's not healthy and Jay Knott was really fun when he's at Cal, but I'm nervous that that offense is going to be one dimensional. But the Ben Arbuckle higher, bringing John material over with him. I, I feel like Oklahoma is in such a great spot right now. Except for at this moment, I believe every single one of Oklahoma's remaining SEC opponents is ranked. So they have a unbelievably brutal schedule. But to go up against Michigan defense the way they did and pretty much control that game I thought was really impressive. And I, I think Red river just got a whole lot more interesting because Texas Archbanning obviously looked much, much better this weekend against a, you know, very inferior opponent. But I think the SEC is a lot more open than we previously thought. And you can almost take Florida out of that equation if you want to because, wow. Not fun.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tough. I want to, I want to talk about Billy Napier and how much trouble that he's in. But can we for a moment, and maybe I have this wrong. I don't know. It's only been two weeks, but South Florida be good. Is South Florida allowed to be good? Billy Napier lost at home, but it seemed to me that a defense that I was watching in South Florida had an awful lot of athletes on it.

[Zach Zaslow]

Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, South Florida's defense, that first game against Boise State forced a ton of turnovers. That's a very good football team. And I'm going to say I'm disappointed that college game day isn't going to Miami. South Florida this week, I think that's A great football game. Is this the greatest, most important football game ever played on the cw? We're going to find out. I do think Miami is much better than South Florida, but, like, that is a very, very good football team. So I don't want to take anything away from them. But when I look at that game, South Florida stuck in it. They did everything they needed to do. Billy Napier also did everything he could to make sure that Florida lost that football game. They were completely undisciplined over 100 yards of penalty clock management that I still don't really understand. He's calling plays and he shouldn't be calling plays. Like, that's a. He is clearly, like, just doesn't have a grasp on this. And I can't bank on what happened last season happening this year where, like, okay, things turn around because, like, DJ Lagway was just like, sort of like a gift from the gods last year, and I think he's still dealing with injury issues. I didn't think he looks that great against usf. So I have a feeling that Billy Napier probably is going to make it through the season just because it is an insanely difficult schedule. They have LSU next and then Miami after that.

[Lucy Rodin]

Zazlo says, no, I don't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lucy Zaslow shaking his head, no, it you, Lucy?

[Lucy Rodin]

I don't know. I mean, Florida's at LSU this weekend, then at Miami, then hosting Texas. If they're sitting at 1 and 4, Napier is not getting to that Texas A and M game.

[Zach Zaslow]

I. My only reason why I push back on that is because they had the exact same opportunity to do this last year where they were also last year. The boosters had come together early in the season and said, we have the money race. We're prepared to pay his buyout right now. And they didn't do it. And I think it depends on really how DJ Lagway plays, because I felt like that's what saved Napier's job is like, we really want to keep DJ here. Like, we really feel like he is the future of this team. If he plays well. Even if Florida loses, I think they'll keep him throughout the season. And I also think it's like, hey, do we have the guy we want? Cough, cough. Lane Giffen.

[Lucy Rodin]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Dan Lebatard.

[Zach Zaslow]

I just texted my best friend Hannah and asked her who she thinks is going to win tonight. And she has never watched a hockey game this entire season. She's picking the Rangers. And she's an astrophysicist. She's real smart.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'll text Joey. Dan, you know what I found out about Hannah today? An anagram. Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

You said Anna or Hannah.

[Zach Zaslow]

Hannah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, I don't know Anna too, depending.

[Lucy Rodin]

On how you spell it. Even though there's two ends, it's also an anagram. Same with one N. Ana. Anagrams are fun. Hannah's car. A Hannah Graham. This is the Dan Levatar show. I mean, look, speaking of Florida. They're in LSU this weekend. Is it possible LSU is not as good as we thought? I mean, Clemson struggled a little bit against Troy.

[Zach Zaslow]

Yeah. So LSU also didn't, like, blow out their. Their group of five opponent this weekend. I think LSU is very good, and I think what I feel good about LSU with is that even though, yes, Clemson did struggle against Troy, I want to put for the, like, quick asides for Clemson and Georgia. Those rain delays do mess things up, and that happened on both of those games. I'm a little more nervous about Clemson than I am Georgia right now. But, like, LSU's defense was so good in that game, and that has been the issue with LSU the last few years. And so I've seen them make the improvements there. And as long as you have Garrett Nessmeyer, you're going to be in every possible game. So I do think LSU is very, very good. And I think Florida, like, I still foresee them winning some games this season. Like, I don't think it's a lost cause, even though the most winnable game on their schedule is Mississippi State, who actually looks pretty decent this weekend. So things are a little up in the air, but I just don't see them firing Billy Napier right now. If they didn't do that last year.

[Lucy Rodin]

Is this year that the College Football Playoff lives up to the hope and expectation that. It feels pretty wide open here, Lucy. It feels like we're going to get some real good games come January. I don't see a team yet that has set itself apart. Part of that is because Texas played Ohio State, and it's hard to gauge what that game will mean in the grand scheme of things. But there aren't a lot of elite teams. This is anybody's year. Feels.

[Zach Zaslow]

No, it 100% feels like that because you still feel like, obviously, Ohio State, you know, huge win this weekend, like, 70 plus points on the board. You have to feel pretty good about that. It feels so wide open because the SEC feels so wide open where, like, you really don't have Alabama, you're like, I don't even know if you're a good football team. Georgia, you have questions about their offensive line. Like, there's Florida. You don't know what's going on there. It's such a. Like, it's really exciting because, like, you open up the door for so many contenders and especially to be at week three and already feel like, okay, we have a really good group of five candidate for this playoff already. It's really, really exciting. I think they're going to be a good. It's going to be perfect playoff.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're going to let you go on this note, but because we were talking about Mike Gundy, it's worth reliving. It's less than a minute and it is the signature move of an 18 year career. He never got better than he was right here with the flowing feathered hair talking about that mama who has children.

[Lucy Rodin]

If you want to go after an.

[Dan Le Batard]

Athlete, one of my athletes, you go.

[Lucy Rodin]

After one that doesn't do the right thing. You don't downgrade him because he does everything right and may not play as well on Saturday.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you let us make that decision.

[Lucy Rodin]

That's why I don't read the newspaper, because it's garbage. And the editor that let it come out is garbage. Attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right. And then you want to write articles.

[Dan Le Batard]

About guys that don't do things right.

[Lucy Rodin]

And downgrading the ones that do make. Are you kidding me? Where are we at in society today? Come after me.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm a man.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm 40.

[Dan Le Batard]

Excellent lip sync you did there. I didn't realize.

[Zach Zaslow]

I know most of the words.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lucy, you've got the whole thing memorized.

[Zach Zaslow]

Not the whole thing, only like bits and pieces. But I do have a good chunk of it memorized. I got really bored one day, so I just learned the whole thing.

[Lucy Rodin]

Dude, do you know we need more dogs?

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you have any kind of rant that you imagine as being better than Mike Gundy's rant in the history of college football? Football rants. Because for one to endure for 18 years. Mike's got it right. That coach. It is. At Charleston Southern.

[Lucy Rodin]

We just came up on the anniversary he ran for Congress, I think. Cats in the house. Cats in the house.

[Dan Le Batard]

We'll get that. We're not going to do better. Is that one better if we put them off? If we paired them, if we went, yes, Tony.

[Lucy Rodin]

Yeah, we need more dogs.

[Dan Le Batard]

So wait a minute. You're saying. You're saying right in front of me, you're alleging that the Charleston Southern coach's rant is better than Mike Gundy's rant?

[Lucy Rodin]

Carolina put some respect on. Yeah, Coastal. But the thing is, Gundy's rant is great. At the last second, right? Like it's. It's. I'm a man. I'm 40. Come after me. When we have the. The totality of the Coastal Carolina coach, we're talking about dogs and cats inside the house.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are the.

[Lucy Rodin]

That's great.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, we'll see When Chris Cody can get that for us with impeccable comedic dogs so that we can actually play that for you.

[Zach Zaslow]

Certainly Mike Leach has some good ones, too. Weddings, pretty little girlfriends.

[Dan Le Batard]

But Mike Leach has some wide. Those are wandering strolls through. Through crazy land. Like, that's just. That's what that is. We loved calling him on his bike in Key west and getting them. Like, we did that in the Pandemic a bunch. So I know what that is. But that's not Mike Gundy and Coastal Carolina famous because who's bronze medalist on this list? We're talking about 20 years of coaches melting down in press conferences. Let's get the Coastal Carolina coach and pit him here against Mike Gundy. 12 cats live across the road.

[Lucy Rodin]

Our doors open, the screen's broke.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you can come in through the screen, but you can't get back out of here.

[Lucy Rodin]

I turn and look, there's a little.

[Dan Le Batard]

Kitty cat in our kitchen. So I said, what are you doing in here, little kitty cat?

[Lucy Rodin]

By that time, the cat turns, tries.

[Dan Le Batard]

To get back out. That screen won't go that way. Cat starts going all crazy.

[Lucy Rodin]

So I told our players, I tried.

[Dan Le Batard]

To let it out the front door. The cat's still going crazy in there. I told our players, you need to be more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats in here looking in the mirror. Do I look good?

[Lucy Rodin]

I got my extra bands on.

[Dan Le Batard]

I got my other.

[Lucy Rodin]

The shoes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Be a dog. We don't need no meows. We don't need no cats. We need more dogs. He's cheating with his ass.

[Lucy Rodin]

Societal point, too, though. Like, don't worry about the mirror. Don't worry about extra bands. Don't worry about all this stuff that you have on. Go play football.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think he made more of a societal opponent than old Oan Gundy there, who hates the media? Be a dog.

[Zach Zaslow]

Can I do a quick Gundy tidbit? That was Justin Bieber's ringtone for a while. Was the I'm a man. I'm 40.

[Dan Le Batard]

What?

[Zach Zaslow]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Dan Le Batard]

What? It's ringtone. I'm a man.

[Zach Zaslow]

It was 40. He was doing some radio interview, and, like, his phone rang and they were like, what is that?

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Does it make sense to you that Justin Bieber's ringtone was once Mike Gundy's I'm a 40 rant? Put them against each other, pair them against each other. That's a hell of a tournament. You know what? I wouldn't mind doing all time, leadership meltdowns.

[Lucy Rodin]

Brian Kelly pounding the desk after the season opening loss last year is pretty good. The thing is, you can't see the shade of red he is on the sound, right? You can hear the pounding of the desk. You can hear him talking, but you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can'T see he's always that nuclear shade of. I've been on the yacht too long, Red.

[Lucy Rodin]

I have one from pro sports, four picks against Grossman and two fumbles. What'd you see about the Bears?

[Dan Le Batard]

Shut them down that way? No, we, you know, I mean, we.

[Lucy Rodin]

We just wait.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Bears are what we thought they were.

[Lucy Rodin]

Were what we thought they were.

[Dan Le Batard]

We played them in preseason. Who the hell takes a third game in a preseason like it's bull. We played them in the third game. Everybody played three quarters. The Bears are who we thought they were. That's why we took the damn field. Now if you want to crown them, then crown their ass. But they are who we thought they were and we let them off the hook last night. The Bears are who we thought they were. They've been that midwife for a minute.

[Lucy Rodin]

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[Lucy Rodin]

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[Zach Zaslow]

Nice guy, and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him and I hope he has the day he deserves.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, wow. I hope he has the day he deserves.

[Zach Zaslow]

That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go f yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a great kind. It's a great kind. Insult. Yes, it's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out that's a less Southern. Bless your heart.

[Lucy Rodin]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was hoping for exactly that football game from Caleb Williams. Like, you can see the growth. You can see the help. I have some confusion, right, about how to do this when it comes to quarterback measurements. As, for example, let's make it Jared Goff. He's had five offensive coordinators in his career. And when it's not Sean McVay or Ben Johnson, he's 00:19:1. He, he's, he is not necessarily a system quarterback, but there's something happening there that makes him look Jared Goff, like only Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. And being able to win 13 games in two different places when none of us would select Jared Goff as our quarterback of our football team.

[Lucy Rodin]

He's made it to a Super Bowl. He's been a really good quarterback for that franchise. I think that they're allowed a week.

[Dan Le Batard]

Also.

[Lucy Rodin]

It's not we're not talking about Brock Purdy here. He was the number one overall pick. Jared Goff, like he was expected coming into the league to be a very.

[Dan Le Batard]

At California. At California he was one of the best quarterbacks I've seen in college. Like he was viewed as it was Josh Rosen. Ish.

[Lucy Rodin]

Right. His record wasn't very good but like people projected and he came up and got even. Got off to a bad start with Jeff Fisher and then his career was reshaped. I think if anything you've laid out the argument that he's coachable and then he can prove if the coaching around him improves. I think Detroit deserves at least some grace. Yeah. Maybe Green Bay is as good as everyone is saying that could be. There was one talking point from last night's game that we. That we didn't hit and maybe it's overanalyzing but Ben Johnson's decision to not kick the onside kick and outsmart himself by playing the odds because there were 2 minutes and 2 seconds he played himself. He absolutely played himself. So the way that his mind was working was like the odds are higher that my kicker can kick the ball out of bounds and I can save this two minute warning than it is for me to recover the onside kick. Now in a vacuum. I get that. But that's not what we're playing. We're trying to ultimately get the ball back. And baked into the whole concept of getting an onside kick is the chance you get the friggin ball back. Worst decision. That or Harbaugh punting it away at the end of the game. I think he outsmarted himself. This was really bad. He played himself. I think he played himself then. He played himself. He played himself because also you could stop the team if they recover the onside kick like they did. I don't understand what Ben Johnson was doing there that game. Maybe it's a bust. The last two NFL football games that we have seen have been just really confusing because the Bears were in total control of that football game. Not unlike the Ravens were in total control of that football game. The Ravens admittedly did it more spectacularly. But. But after that pick six, this one's over. JJ McCarthy hasn't shown you anything that was as surprise a result, even more surprising than the Buffalo one because I did not know JJ McCarthy was capable of doing that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Have you guys considered this? Because it is something I think about as I see Patrick Mahomes shrivel into. I'm going to throw the ball not downfield at all. And I see just in general throughout that league a lot of teams are trying to win with the quarterback going 12 for 18 for 160 yards. And I want to just ask you if it's possible when you see some of these great things at the end of games that there are so many restrictions and rigidities and how careful everybody's being about protect the football, do not throw interceptions. The thing that's going to cost games when we're all trying to slice up all these small, small margins that always have us saying that coaching decision cost that game at the end of the game as if nothing happened before that one thing is the reason I lost the game. Is it possible at all that these guys are so militaristic in their disciplines about the rigidities and don't turn the ball over that Josh Allen being a thoroughbred at the end of the game, just running all over the field is when he's let loose on. Oh, I don't have to worry anymore about. Don't be reckless with the football and throw it out here in the flat. I gotta beat Baltimore now. I'm the best person on the field as an athlete. Watch this. And now I'm loose and I don't have to worry about all this bullshit anymore. About everyone in the league wants to be Aaron Rodgers thrown four interceptions a year at quarterback.

[Lucy Rodin]

I do think that there's an evolution, especially with a player like that, which is that you gotta ride that horse. But also on your Mahomes take, I think you gotta cool it on that. He had the ninth best yards per attempt in the league. His deep threat got injured on the very first play. Rasheed Rice is suspended. He did take deep shots to Hollywood Brown, which is a mixed bag. I think if Xavier Worthy is reportedly. He's going to tough out this injury and play with a shoulder brace. Like he's got to have the weapons, the downfield threats to do it. And he's not. He doesn't have the full complete arsenal.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not. You're saying I've got to lay off of Patrick Mahomes. I'm not the ringer saying, are the Chiefs cooked? I'm simply saying this is a stat. That's a fact. He's 39. 11 Since Tyreek Hill left. But also yards per attempt down the field. Only Daniel Jones throws it less far. It's 6.5 yards a pass. I understand.

[Lucy Rodin]

But they reshaped the offense over the course of this offseason. And a big part of that was the ascension of Xavier Worthy, who's really fast, who came on late, who reshaped their offense as they made that run to the Super Bowl. I think it's Pretty important that Xavier Worthy got hurt that early. He's also a prisoner of his own design.

[Zach Zaslow]

Right.

[Lucy Rodin]

Like before Patrick Mahomes was throwing the ball over the place. They were like, all right, let's just set two safeties back and he's not going to be able to take the top off the defense. And at that point, that's when kind of the entire NFL change. You don't see these massive throwing the games and years anymore because of the fact that they're just sitting too high. Safeties and it's like, all right, you're going to go throw deep. Perfect. Here we are. When The Chiefs fall to 02 this weekend because they will. They're playing Philadelphia. When the Chiefs fall to 02 this weekend. Well, I mean I. No, no, everybody knows I do big game, not a big game on Saslow Show 2.0 on Friday. So don't ask me that right now. I got time to think still. If the Chiefs lose this weekend, they fought Owen 2, we're then going to start having serious conversations about them training for Tyreek Hill, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, we're already there. No, no, no. The. There's already chatter all over the place. Steelers, Chiefs in on Tyreek Hill. There's Mike Florio in this drum. We are already there. Know that the first week of the Miami Dolphins was apocalyptic enough and the first week of the Chiefs and Steelers looking that way. You everyone listening to this says, ooh, Tyree kill with those quarterbacks. Of course that makes sense. That would be Pittsburgh being all in on top of all in on top of all in on this year. And Kansas City needs exactly that. Like that. That, that, that's perfect for Kansas City.

[Lucy Rodin]

Especially if Xavier Worthy can't tough it out because it was one of those borrowers this weekend. I don't know about that. They're still trying to evaluate whether or not he gets his surgery. Lot of great games on this slate. Primetime slate. Week one delivered. Every primetime game was a banger. By the way, we got two Monday Night football games next week.

[Dan Le Batard]

I love.

[Lucy Rodin]

Let me go through the primetime slate. Primetime slate. Thursday we got Commanders at Packers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Lucy Rodin]

All right. Sunday Night football, real interesting game. Falcons, Vikings, Monday Night Football double header. Yes. We got Baker and the Bucs going into Houston. You see this Trout any good? We'll find out. I don't know. This is a make or break game. We're going to find out in a.

[Dan Le Batard]

Make or break game that C.J.

[Lucy Rodin]

Stroud got that double header. You got. You got Chargers at Raiders as. But as you mentioned, Big time game for the Kansas City Chiefs, super bowl rematch, afternoon window. I want tickets to that game. You want tickets to that game? Well, I mean, you can't get tickets to that game because that game's sold out. There's only one option that you have, you idiot.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

You just said on a Tuesday in week two. You said it. I heard you. Everybody heard you. You said this is a make or break game to find out if CJ Stroud is good this week. You said, I'm gonna find out this week.

[Zach Zaslow]

Week.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you're a liar. I'm not going to find that out this week. I know he's good already. I know the pressure up the middle has undone him for several years. I'm not going to find out this weekend because next week and the week after that I'm also going to think C.J. stroud is good and I'm not going to understand his regression.

[Lucy Rodin]

We've seen that happen with quarterbacks before. I don't know if he's good. We've seen one year wonders before. I don't know. Nine points this weekend against Rams. That's bad.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're pretty tough. They're RAM tough. You know they're RAM tough.

[Lucy Rodin]

Now you're talking. Now you're.

[Dan Le Batard]

They can be every team that way. Every team. They could have won the super bowl that they could have done that to Philadelphia last year. And you all know it.

[Lucy Rodin]

Is Houston center still out injured? I know he got hurt in that game. That's real bad. That Cardiff surrenders. Pressure up the middle. That's bad.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is bad.

[Lucy Rodin]

I don't like that injury.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a bad injury. And they did cart him off.

[Lucy Rodin]

I thought for a second their center's name was Houston Center. When you said that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll. Should Houston Center's name be Houston Center? Perfect name for a center.

[Lucy Rodin]

I know ball. I know ball. When the Houston center gets carted off the field.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not good.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm not like. I know that guy's name. I'm not going to try to fool you here. Do you know it, Dan? I know what it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't. What I know is he's number 50 and he's super round.

[Lucy Rodin]

He is very round.

[Dan Le Batard]

And I know. You know what? You're correct. I will grant you that most centers are. This one was extra round in form.

[Lucy Rodin]

Super round.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was. In fact, I was looking at it as he was carted off the field, and I'm like, oh, no, that's. That's bad. For determining whether C.J. stroud is good or not. And because pressure up the middle, it seems like it would be hard for anybody to handle in that sport. A little short spitting. Jalen Carter is running up the middle. It seems like it would be hard to play the position that way.

[Lucy Rodin]

How about you roll outside?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, you're right.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm sick of hearing pressure up the middle.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're correct.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm sick of hearing that roll outside again, though.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fat number 50, Andrew, who was. Who was rolling poly. I was thinking to myself as he ran off the field jiggling a little in the midsection, I'm like, that guy doesn't want to that way. He wants. He wants to be fitter, but he has to be this size because Jalen Carter's over there and he's spitting.

[Lucy Rodin]

Dan, I'm being told we've located the video of Justin Bieber having Mike Gundy as his ringtone.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is stunning to me.

[Zach Zaslow]

Like, I. I went bungee jumping.

[Lucy Rodin]

It was a lot of fun.

[Zach Zaslow]

That's my ringtone for everything.

[Lucy Rodin]

Oh, it is.

[Zach Zaslow]

Come after me.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm a man.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm.

[Lucy Rodin]

He loves it.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a good ring.

[Lucy Rodin]

He's a good sports fan. Knows ball.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can you find for me? Because some people were saying that Lucy Rodin can do that whole speech and has done it before. Like, there are several videos on the Internet of. She's able to do from memory the entirety of the Mike Gundy speech because I don't think it's been topped by Coastal Carolina or anybody. I think for 18 reigning years, Mike Gundy has made it. So his press conference at Ford is the signature thing about his entire career at Oklahoma State.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm in the mullet. He won a Fiesta Bowl. Has Saban had any good ones? I feel like there's been some good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Saban Gundy's won 10 games in a season. This is not to indict, although I like to indict this person. This is not to indict that. He has won big games there. I don't remember any of them. But yet his most signature moment is losing his mind. Eighteen years ago in a press conference.

[Lucy Rodin]

Saban had the sideline interview. I'm not doing it, so quit asking. Rat poison. Another good one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Again, all pale in comparison. I I We are talking, so stop asking.

[Lucy Rodin]

Decent saving. I don't know where that came from. Was it?

[Dan Le Batard]

Quit asking.

[Lucy Rodin]

Quit asking.

[Dan Le Batard]

So quit asking. So quit asking.

[Lucy Rodin]

I don't know what you want me to say. I'm not gonna be the Alabama coach.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know good and well they're ram tough.

[Lucy Rodin]

They're ram tough, man. It's a towing capacity. They are tough. They're tough to team Ford Cristobal.

[Dan Le Batard]

Matthew Stafford is one of the toughest human beings to ever play sports. He never gets hurt. Or I should say he does get hurt. And it doesn't matter because he's always hurt because he's still out there.

[Lucy Rodin]

The important part, though. Always hurt.

[Dan Le Batard]

But always hurt. But always Ram tough.

[Lucy Rodin]

Always Ram tough.

[Dan Le Batard]

Always the the Rams beating Houston and you guys asking is CJ Stroud good? Because Jake Landman comes in and is just throwing the haymakers in the secondary. Just. Do you. Do you realize I don't believe there was a better feeling in the sport, not a. Not a one this weekend than in the open field sizing up a running back with a punch and then just do it.

[Zach Zaslow]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

No interest in making the tackle. This is not a tackle. This is a felonious act in the real world, in the the wild. This is a felony to do this to another human being. And he just lands right on the ball. And nuke. C.J. stroud nukes Houston's first game. Houston was going to win that game. Right there. Right there. They weren't even going to give the ball back to Ram tough. They were just going to keep the ball the rest of the game. And he punched it out. Tell me who felt better than that. We said Jalen Ramsey yesterday. Who else are you?

[Lucy Rodin]

I was lazy, but Josh Allen felt like a G is all me. It's like I'm the guy Jordan love.

[Dan Le Batard]

A single moment, though. Can't feel better.

[Lucy Rodin]

I felt bad for Cam Kitchens because he actually won the game. And it was erased by a penalty. And then Landman came in and stole the game, too.

[Dan Le Batard]

A defensive player never gets to feel quite as good as Jalen Ramsey and Landman felt this week. And here's Lucy Rodin doing the Mike Gundy speech from memory in a way that echoes for 18 years.

[Zach Zaslow]

Three years ago I was very bored and I learned Mike Gundy's I'm a man on 40 monologue. Like just cuz. And someone reshared it. So I want to see if I still got it. If anybody has read this article, I didn't read it. This was me by mother of children.

[Lucy Rodin]

I think this is worth reading.

[Zach Zaslow]

Let me tell you, this article is inaccurate. This article embarrasses me to be involved with athletics. Here's all that kid did.

[Lucy Rodin]

He goes to class, he's respectful to.

[Zach Zaslow]

The media, he's respectful to the public, and he's a good kid. He's not a professional athlete and he doesn't deserve to be kicked when he's down. That's why I don't read the newspaper, because it's garbage. And the editor, they let it come out is garbage. Attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right.

[Lucy Rodin]

And then you want to write articles.

[Zach Zaslow]

About guys who don't do things right and downgrade them the ones that do make place. Are you kidding me? Where are we at in society today? Come after me.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm a man.

[Zach Zaslow]

I'm 40.

[Lucy Rodin]

I'm not.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not a kid.

[Zach Zaslow]

Kid. Write something about me. That's all you have to say. Makes me want to pig. End scene.