Hour 1: Chris Cote, The Showman (feat. Tim Kurkjian)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Hour 1: Chris Cote, The Showman (feat. Tim Kurkjian)
Release Date: May 29, 2025

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1. Introduction of Tim Kirkjian and His Sports Expertise

Timestamp: [01:11]

Dan Le Batard kicks off the episode by introducing Tim Kirkjian, playfully questioning Kirkjian's depth of sports knowledge. Dan teases, saying, “Would I shock any of you if I told you that Tim Kirkon used to rabidly run a pickup basketball game that Cal Ripken Jr. played in” ([01:11]). Tim defends his expertise, sharing his vivid memory of a remarkable basketball shot by Don Nelson:

"I remember the Don Nelson play very vividly. Keith Erickson tipped that ball away from John Havlicek and Don Nelson shot it from the free throw line. And I'll never forget how high that ball went. And then it went straight through for an enormous bucket in a playoff game." ([01:51])

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2. The Improbable Halliburton Basketball Shot and the Role of Math in Sports

Timestamp: [03:06] – [05:35]

The conversation delves into the improbability of Nelson's shot, with Dan referencing a math perspective:

"Yeah, Dan, who cares? Math." ([03:25])

Jon Weiner humorously jabs at Tim’s reliance on mathematical analysis, leading to a broader discussion on sports science and shooting mechanics. Chris Cody counters Dan’s math-based argument by emphasizing the technical aspects of shooting form and backspin, stating:

"But it's not a lucky shot. It's a shooter's role." ([04:00])

Tim adds depth by sharing insights from his friend Brian Maggot, highlighting the uniqueness of Nelson's shot and its irreproducibility:

"He shot that shot trying to recreate that shot for 30 minutes and never even come close." ([03:51])

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3. Tim Kirkjian’s Podcast with His Son: A Highlight of Family Collaboration

Timestamp: [05:35] – [09:00]

Dan praises Tim for his collaboration with his son on their podcast, emphasizing the emotional significance:

"This is by far the most, the best thing that I've ever done and the most satisfying thing that I've ever done because I'm doing it with my son." ([08:22])

Tim elaborates on the dynamics of the podcast, appreciating his son's technological prowess and humor. He reminisces about past projects, underscoring the value of working alongside family:

"We now do it three days a week, so we're just trying to keep it up." ([08:22])

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4. Current Trends in Baseball: Strikeouts and Aaron Judge’s Performance

Timestamp: [09:00] – [12:38]

The hosts shift focus to baseball, discussing the evolving role of leadoff hitters and the increase in strikeouts. Tim highlights a significant statistic:

"Last night Lawrence Butler struck out four times in a game for the A's hitting leadoff. So that's 16 times this season that a leadoff hitter has struck out four or more times in a game." ([10:48])

The conversation moves to Aaron Judge’s impressive near-.400 batting average, with Tim attributing his success to improved hitting mechanics:

"He used to swing and miss all the time. He used to strike out all the time. Chased out of the strike zone all the time, doesn't do that much very often anymore." ([11:45])

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5. Best Baseball Movies and “Major League” Discussions

Timestamp: [12:38] – [14:53]

Dan queries Tim about his favorite baseball movie, to which Tim confidently responds, “Field of Dreams” ([12:38]). The discussion briefly touches on other classics like “Major League,” with Tim appreciating Charlie Sheen's athletic portrayal:

"I like that Charlie Sheen was able to throw a baseball athletically. I was not expecting that." ([13:02])

Dan engages Tim with a hypothetical scenario from “Major League 2,” questioning the realism of Rick Vaughn’s fast pitches. Tim acknowledges the surge in pitching speeds and cows his skepticism about replicating movie moments in real life:

"If anyone out there actually thinks they could put a ball in play against a major league hitter pitcher today, you've got to be kidding me." ([14:12])

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6. The Tush Push Controversy in Football and the Philadelphia Eagles

Timestamp: [28:43] – [31:15]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the controversial “tush push” play employed by the Philadelphia Eagles. Dan criticizes the management and strategic discussions surrounding the play:

"It's one of the great dumb things I've ever seen at the top of leadership in anything." ([28:43])

Greg Cody defends the tactics, emphasizing the competitive nature of the sport:

"It's all about it doesn't matter how rich you are, how competitive are you? Can you stop me? Can you stop my team?" ([30:14])

Tim adds context by highlighting the effectiveness and rule-based nature of the play, debating its place within the spirit of football:

"The issue is can you stop them in first and second down which they can't because the roster is so talented." ([30:48])

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7. The Spoon Incident: Comedic Chaos on Air

Timestamp: [31:15] – [40:55]

The episode takes an unexpected and humorous turn when Chris Cody inadvertently drops his spoon while eating a Blizzard. This sparks a heated yet comedic exchange among the hosts about hygiene and the infamous five-second rule. Dan expresses disgust:

"You picked up the spoon, you immediately stuck that and whatever hair was on it right back in your blizzard. It's disgusting." ([34:00])

Chris defends his actions, claiming he followed the five-second rule:

"I was, like, looking. I'm a showman. Don't care. Let's go." ([35:00])

The banter escalates with Jon Weiner and Greg Cody joining in, leading to playful accusations of poor hygiene and over-the-top reactions. The segment is filled with laughter, playful insults, and light-hearted confrontation, showcasing the camaraderie and quick wit of the hosts.

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8. Promotion of Jeremy Tache’s New Show "Buzz the Tower"

Timestamp: [20:34] – [23:54]

In a bid to challenge Tim Kirkjian, Dan requests an endorsement for Jeremy Tache's new baseball show, "Buzz the Tower." The segment unfolds as Dan posits a trivia question about intentional walks of Aaron Judge, attempting to stump Tim:

"Jeremy Tache has a new show, 'Buzz the Tower.'" ([23:31])

Tim endeavors to answer but admits he’s stumped, allowing Dan to segue into promoting Jeremy’s show. Tim complies, delivering a brief endorsement:

"Jeremy Tash's new show as endorsed by Tim Kirchen. You owe us this because we stumped you. Go ahead and do the endorsement." ([23:31])

Jeremy Tache adds a quirky detail about the show's rock band aspect, further enriching the promotional segment.

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9. Closing Remarks and Final Banter

Timestamp: [40:55] – [42:11]

As the episode winds down, the hosts continue their playful exchanges, reflecting on the earlier spoon incident and maintaining a humorous tone. Dan wraps up with light-hearted comments, ensuring listeners are entertained until the very end.

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Notable Quotes:

• Dan Le Batard:

  • “Would I shock any of you if I told you that Tim Kirkon used to rabidly run a pickup basketball game that Cal Ripken Jr. played in” ([01:11]).
  • “If anyone out there actually thinks they could put a ball in play against a major league hitter pitcher today, you've got to be kidding me.” ([14:12]).
  • “You picked up the spoon, you immediately stuck that and whatever hair was on it right back in your blizzard. It's disgusting.” ([34:00]).

• Tim Kirkjian:

  • “I used to host a show on baseball called the Seamhead edition of Baseball Tonight, which ran every Sunday.” ([08:22]).
  • “He’s still one of the greatest shooters ever.” ([03:51]).
  • “The same pitcher was asked, what pitch are you throwing? I don't know. I'll have to look at my iPad.” ([19:50]).

• Chris Cody:

  • “It’s a showman.” ([35:00]).

• Jon Weiner:

  • “I'm a showman.” ([35:00]).
  • “I didn’t even see anything. Show is on.” ([38:31]).

• Greg Cody:

  • “It's all about it doesn't matter how rich you are, how competitive are you? Can you stop me? Can you stop my team?” ([30:14]).

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Conclusion:

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz expertly balances in-depth sports analysis with humorous, relatable banter among the hosts. From dissecting improbable basketball shots and evolving baseball tactics to engaging in light-hearted on-air antics, the show offers a comprehensive and entertaining dive into sports and pop culture. Notable guest Tim Kirkjian provides insightful commentary, while the dynamic interactions between Dan, Tim, Jon, Chris, Mike, and Greg ensure an engaging experience for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.

Transcript

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[Tim Kirkjian]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Would I shock any of you if I told you that Tim Kirkon used to rabidly run a pickup basketball game that Cal Ripken Jr. Played in and that. That in general, Tim Kirk knows about very little. Very, very little. But he. Baseball. And I don't know that he knows that much less about basketball because I dare say that. What are you. What are you doing?

[Tim Kirkjian]

You.

[Chris Cody]

It's a double negative from hell that you just said you don't know that he doesn't know that much less about it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so forgive me. I think that Tim cares about basketball and knows about basketball in many of the same ways that he does about baseball. Tim, do I have that wrong?

[Tim Kirkjian]

No, you have it right. And I remember the Don Nelson play very vividly. Keith Erickson tipped that ball away from John Havlicek and Don Nelson shot it from the free throw line. And I'll never forget how high that ball went. And then it went straight through for an enormous bucket in a playoff game. But Halliburton's, as we know, went, I think it's 7.23ft in the air. I have never seen a shot go. A ball go to the shot clock above of the backboard like that. And Brian Maggot, who's A friend of mine, one of the great shooters ever told me he's never seen anything like that. And he still shoots every day, and he's still one of the greatest shooters ever. And he said, I went out the next day, he said, and I shot that shot, trying to recreate that shot for 30 minutes and never even come close. He said, I promise you, if I shoot that shot every day for. For an hour until I'm 90, I will never be able to recreate that shot. That's how crazy that was.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on. So, Tim, here's the music. Finally, one of my. Let me introduce you, America, to one of my math friends. Tim. Thank you. Because they were making fun of me, because I'm like, do you guys realize how improbable that shot was? Yeah, Dan, who cares? Math.

[Jon Weiner]

Math friends.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but this is.

[Jon Weiner]

That's the part we jumped on.

[Dan Le Batard]

My point is. Yeah, now backtrack. Now that it's no longer cool to mock the math guy.

[Chris Cody]

But it's not math, though. Like, to me, it comes down to shooting form. Right. He has incredible backspin on his shot. And so the reason you do that is to give the ball a chance to not just ricochet hard off the rim, but if it goes up, it'll have a chance to drop in. Now, it went up unusually high, but that doesn't make it a lucky shot, which is kind of what your whole premise is, that it was a lucky shot. And it's not a lucky shot. It's a shooter's role.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, you're bearing the lead here. I don't want to live in a country in which some guy can just say, I texted my math friends and think that he can just move on with this show without guys saying, wait a second. Math friends, you nerd.

[Dan Le Batard]

Preach.

[Mike Ryan]

That's America, Jack.

[Greg Cody]

That is America.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is one of my math friends. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do something this month with Tim Kirkson and my math friends. We're going to do a baseball game. I'm going to show you that me and my math friends can throw a party. Even though you guys are afraid of math and you like to make fun of math, Tim Kirchen is genuinely excited about sports, surprising him all the time. And what he's telling you in terms of improbabilities, the Halliburton shots not being covered correctly, like, it's as a historic shot. It will never happen again. It's never happened before. It'll never happen again. It'll never happen at the end of a game.

[Greg Cody]

This is why we need sports science.

[Jon Weiner]

You're using Kirkjin wrong.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jon Weiner]

All right, I'll tell you how to use Kirkjin. I text Kirchen last week. Who's the slowest position player in history?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, that's a good question.

[Jon Weiner]

That's what you. That's how you use a Tim Kirchen, Dan.

[Chris Cody]

Tim.

[Tim Kirkjian]

I think I said it was Ron Hass.

[Dan Le Batard]

He did.

[Jon Weiner]

And then. And then I. And then I pitched a bunch of.

[Tim Kirkjian]

No hitters and was a good catcher. And he had some bad knees, so he was slow. And Chris, you came up with Benji Molina, right?

[Jon Weiner]

Yes, Benji Molina. Good call by me. Great shout by me.

[Tim Kirkjian]

And Benji Molina, who hit for the cycle once. How about that? Wow. So Barry Bonds, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth never hit for the cycle, but Benji Molina did.

[Jon Weiner]

I want to see that triple.

[Tim Kirkjian]

So good. It's so good. Sports are so good. And you're right, Dan. I'm still amazed by the probabilities and the possibilities when you watch a game. And that shot I've never seen before. And you're right. I don't think we'll ever see that again.

[Dan Le Batard]

I will acknowledge that I have not used Tim Kirchen. Right. So Tim Kirkjian does Pablo Sandoval.

[Chris Cody]

He's already laughing. You haven't even said. You haven't said anything other than the name.

[Tim Kirkjian]

No, but Dan, this is why I'm laughing. I swear to God. Yesterday I went to the Safeway and this guy comes up to me, I don't even know him, and he says, what's your favorite looks like on the Le Batard game? He doesn't. I don't even know who he is is. So I tell him, well, it's Jeff Van Gundy who looks like the coroner who does an autopsy while he's eating a ham sandwich. And then this guy says me my favorite, he said, is Stan Van Gundy looks like the generic face on a pizza box. I came on right after him. This is unbelievable. What a joke. Position me next to Stan Van Gundy after a guy in the frozen food aisle asked me a question about the.

[Greg Cody]

Van Gundy brothers that's less than probable than the Halliburton shot.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does Pablo Sandoval look like the bear shaped bottle of honey? Does Homer the World Series game? That's right. That's right. Does Aaron Judge look like the most athlet athletic member of the Addams Family?

[Greg Cody]

Shoot that.

[Chris Cody]

Call him Lurch.

[Tim Kirkjian]

You rang? Oh, my goodness.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow. That is for the suey's limited Fake Lurch from the Adams family by Tim Kirkjin. Tim, real quick, because I want to tell the audience this again. He does a podcast with his son. Is this a great game or what? His son Jeff. And I will tell you that I am a sucker for the father son stuff. Greg Cody does it very well with his son Chris, and Yeti and Jeff and Tim do it well so that people can see how much range his dad actually has or how little, as the case may be, because Jeff has a funny relationship with his dad. But when you think of projects you've done in your life, Tim, is there a second place to this one? Like I would imagine being able to do this at this point in your life, this podcast, that it's the most meaningful work you can do?

[Tim Kirkjian]

Yeah. I used to host a show on baseball called the Seamhead edition of Baseball Tonight, which ran every Sunday. I did that for four years and that was really cool. But this is by far the most, the best thing that I've ever done and the most satisfying thing that I've ever done because I'm doing it with my son. And he knows everything that I don't know, which is everything other than baseball, basketball and sitcom from the 60s, because I don't know anything else. And he's a wizard with technology and he's got a great sense of humor. We had Steve Russian on the other day and we laughed for 45 minutes. It was hilarious. So, yes, this is the best thing I've ever done. And I. We now do it three days a week, so we're just trying to keep it up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does Paul Feinbaum look like the maitre d at a fancy restaurant?

[Tim Kirkjian]

Yes. Isn't he the personification of the NCAA rulebook?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, he is. He is also that. That is correct.

[Mike Ryan]

His corrections.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does Joe Girardi look like he has a favorite chair in the husband sitting area outside of Dillard's? I can see it.

[Mike Ryan]

Look at that laugh right there.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is. Does Scott Hanson look like an orthodontist? Does Adam Silver.

[Tim Kirkjian]

It's the playoffs, Dan. You can't use these during the NBA playoffs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does Adam Silver look like the four star general in a post apocalyptic movie faced with the daunting reality of an alien invasion and the likely end of humanity as we know it? Who says, staring off into the distance, they're already here. We're the aliens now. Tim, the most excited you are about a trend this season in baseball. I'm always complimenting you at how you evolve with the game. So, Javi Baez in center field, first basemans, leadoff men hitting home run. You keep seeing how it is the game changes and you appreciate it, right? You appreciate how the game is being distorted. So that what Aaron Judge is doing right now is something that you can look at and be like, this is the best that baseball can possibly be played, right?

[Tim Kirkjian]

Well, speaking of strikeouts and leadoff guys, last night Lawrence Butler struck out four times in a game for the A's hitting leadoff. So that's 16 times this season that a leadoff hitter has struck out four or more times in a game. Again, Dan, I bring this up because when I up, the leadoff guy was a pixie little second baseman, shortstop who could run a little bit, put the ball in play and rarely struck out. And now no season before June has ever had 16 guys strike out four or more times out of the leadoff spot. Just another reminder how much the game is evolving, that we just put our biggest and best players, whether it's Kyle Schwaber, Shohei Ohtani in the leadoff spot because they can get up more times, if they strike out four times in a game, it's not a big deal. So, yeah, that's just another thing that is changing in the game. But you mentioned Aaron Judge, Dan. I got asked the other day if Aaron Judge is going to hit.400 this year. The answer is a resounding no. Nothing against him. It's just this is the hardest hitting environment that I've ever seen. And no one will ever hit.400 facing the stuff that they face every day. The fact that he is that close to.400 and we're almost to June and he's 67282. It's a miracle. And it just shows, shows you how much he has evolved as a hitter and that he used to swing and miss all the time. He used to strike out all the time. Chased out of the strike zone all the time, doesn't do that much very often anymore. And that's why he is spectacularly good almost every night.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is a leading question, okay, but what is the best baseball movie made? Tim, do you like have a ranking on this? Because I imagine it's Field of Dreams for you. Is it something else?

[Tim Kirkjian]

No, it's Field of Dreams. No doubt. My dad was the most important part of my life in every way. My dad was a really good player. My dad taught me and my brothers how to play the game, gave us a feel for the game. And that movie's all about a father and a son. So yes, it is My favorite movie. It always will be my favorite movie.

[Dan Le Batard]

The movie Major League and Major League 2. Do you have any opinion on either one of those? The second.

[Tim Kirkjian]

I like that. I like that Charlie Sheen was able to throw a baseball athletically. I was not expecting that. And he did. Playing the part of Rick Vaughn, the pitcher in Major League. And today I'm going to the airport as soon as I'm done here to pick up my friend Rick Vaughn, who used to be the PR director of the Rays and the Orioles.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Orioles, yeah. Rick Vaughn, big redhead.

[Tim Kirkjian]

And Rick Vaughn threw really hard in his day. Really hard.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the reason I asked you the question, Tim, is because In Major League 2, Wild Thing, Rick Vaughn at the end of the movie, the way that it finishes is, holy shit, he throws so hard. He struck out Parkman. He did it with fastballs of 99, 101 and 102. And my question is, give me a number of pitchers in the big leagues who could do this tonight.

[Tim Kirkjian]

There are probably a handful that could throw three straight pitches. 99, 101, 102, maybe a handful, but that's three pitches in a row that's hard to do. Maybe a couple, maybe one more than that could throw as hard as 102.

[Dan Le Batard]

My general point is just what was the ending of that particular movie and series Comes out of the A's bullpen now and does that very easily six times in the ninth, right?

[Tim Kirkjian]

And Mace Miller is tremendous. And by the way, that guy got sick a couple years ago and he lost weight down to like 155 pounds. I weighed 140 this morning, by the way. He weighed 155 because of the sickness. Then he gained it all back and now he throws over a and Dan one more time. If anyone out there actually thinks they could put a ball in play against a major league hitter pitcher today, you've got to be kidding me. And 102 is an incomprehensible rate of speed. Chris, sit down. You have zero chance. And none of you guys would get a bunt down against Garrett Cole or anybody else in it. No. Left handed, right handed, no chance. Chris, you have a good swing, I can tell. But 102 is something that you have never seen or that anybody else in that swing.

[Mike Ryan]

What if I time it for a couple of pitches?

[Tim Kirkjian]

No, no, Mike, he's going to buzz the tower with the first pitch. He's going to scare the life out of you with the first pitch. And then you and everyone else in that room, Chris included, is going to Be afraid to get back in there after he throws it at your face with the first pitch.

[Mike Ryan]

What if I step out of the batter's box, point my bat to him and say, you try that one more time, we're going to have a problem. Yeah, pal.

[Chris Cody]

Pal.

[Tim Kirkjian]

I, I, I asked Dusty Baker once, he asked me about facing Bob Gibson. So he went to Hank Aaron and said, I'm facing Bob Gibson night. What should I think about? And Hank Aaron said, whatever you do, don't look at him. Whatever you do, don't talk to him. And if he knocks you down, do not charge the mound because he will beat your ass. The same thing would happen to you, Mike. You point a bat at a major league pitcher, he's going to kick your ass no matter what. Sorry. No matter how big, strong and athletic you are.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, Garrett Cole, you try that one more time, pal. All right, you try that one more time. That's how that stops.

[Chris Cody]

I love the jargon of Buzz the Tower.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, I love it so much. And coming from Kirkjen like he's some sort of five star general Buzz the Tower. What he's saying, though, the lunacy of what he says is that it is common in that sport to like Buzz the Tower. When what you're saying is throw that sphere 102 miles an hour at someone's face. You guys think you'd be scared of that? Yes. Of course, you'd also be scared of something right down the middle.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. No. I'm my first at bat in Glade's Corey League. I got hit with a pitch. I did not swing the bat for the remainder of the season.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chris Cody. Tim. What? I'm not kidding you when I say if I put Chris Cody right now in a Batter's box against 102, would he see anything other than a black dot?

[Tim Kirkjian]

No. And he would have zero chance, obviously, of getting hit or putting it in play, set it up. Zero chance of making contact. And I must say, speaking of the proudest moment I've ever had on this show was when Dan asked me if you would name a rock band which you would be in and name it after a baseball term. I said, buzz the Tower. What a great name for a rock band. And that was because Dan asked me a stupid question, as he always does, and I came up with a stupid answer.

[Chris Cody]

That's a cool answer. Thank you, Seattle. We are Buzz out.

[Jon Weiner]

Tim, give me 20 pitches, I'll make contact. I'm not saying I'm getting a hit. There will be contact with the bat on one of those.

[Mike Ryan]

You're discounting that we're in the. We're on the on deck circle. We're timing that pitch.

[Tim Kirkjian]

We're timing it, Chris. Mike, if it's a competition and the pitcher loses, Jacob deGrom loses. If you put it in play or make contact, he's not going to lose. He's going to make sure that you don't make contact. Even if he has to throw on up and in. Zero chance. Chris. Sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

I can achieve all things through Christ.

[Chris Cody]

Tim, I got a question for you. Football players are renowned. They watch a ton of film. They're constantly consuming film. I would say that you can't even. You can't be a pro football player if you're not watching film. Right. Basketball players, there are some who watch a lot of film, but there are some who are just kind of like off the field of. Especially guys who are at vets. Like, I know. I know how guys are going to play, and I can adjust and figure it out. For baseball players, do they typically all watch a ton of film like the football players, or are there guys that just go out there, say, I've faced this picture enough times. I know what I'm doing.

[Tim Kirkjian]

Yeah. Most players look at their iPad or some sort of video device after most at bats just to see what it looked like. And it bothers me, it worries me a little bit that a young pitcher was asked a couple years ago by his pitching coach after the young pitcher had just thrown a bullpen, how did your bullpen go? And the pitcher said, I don't know. I'll have to look at my iPad. So he couldn't even tell you how he threw for 10 minutes in the bullpen until he looked at his iPad and went over it. Same pitcher was after. All right, you're facing judge base float at 2 outs, 8th inning, 2, 2 count. What pitch are you throwing? And he said, whatever my iPad tells me to throw. And that's my worrisome part, is that we've stopped watching the games to some degree, and we are watching our iPads and our at bats and our bullpens instead of actually watching the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

A couple of things here, Tim. I want to break some news for you, and in exchange for that, I want you to do a promo for Jeremy Tache's new show, Buzz the Tower, instead of what he's got coming on later in the show. It's presently called Pitch clock or some other thing. Or pitch count.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah, no, that's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Or something else. But I'd like to call it Buzz the Tower, sponsor or executive produced by Tim Kirchen. If he breaks some news here that you did not know about baseball that we surprise you with, will you cut a promo for Jeremy Tasha's new baseball show, Buzz the Tower?

[Tim Kirkjian]

Yes, I think I've made it clear I will do just about anything on this show.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Tim Kirkjian]

Very unlike me, but if Dan asked me, I'll do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, so that's a deal. That's the bet. Let's see if we could surprise Tim. Kirk should. It's rare to surprise him anything baseball related.

[Jeremy Tache]

And you're asking me to be able to accomplish this. Okay, so here's what I would say, Tim. In the first inning, Aaron Judge was intentionally walked. It's the first time since who in what season that a Yankee was intentionally walked in the first inning.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, forgive me here, Tim, you can think about that for a moment if you like, if you need some filibustering. Jeremy, I was under the confusion that we actually had a band that had buzzed the Tower already. As name.

[Jeremy Tache]

Oh, the. The frontman of that band, Dan, is Bronson Arroyo, with the lead guitarist of Bernie Williams and playing bass, of course, Barry Zito.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you know that Buzz the Tower already existed and that these three baseball players made up Buzz the Tower, The. The rock band?

[Tim Kirkjian]

I. I did not. But you asked me that question about 10 years ago, so it's possible I came up with the name of the band before they formed the band, but I. No, I did not know that. And I. As for the intentional walks, I'm going to filibuster Judge. Walked. Was walked intentionally in the first two innings yesterday. Think about that for a second. That's happened five other times in the last 30 years. Twice to Barry Bonds, once to Freddie Freeman, once to Albert Pujols, and once to Jose Ramirez. But to get walked twice intentionally in the first two innings is very unusual. And I don't know the last Yank to do this, so you have indeed stumped me. But my guess is it was. It was Aaron Judge. Some other time. But I don't know.

[Jeremy Tache]

The answer is on June 17, 2012, Robinson Cano is the last Yankee who was walked intentionally in the first inning.

[Mike Ryan]

You math guys know how to party.

[Jon Weiner]

Look how mad Tim is at him.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not fair.

[Tim Kirkjian]

I'm not. I'm not. By the way, Roger Maris was not intentionally walked one time in 1961 when he hit 61 home runs. And then the next season, again, just to show you how the games work, he got intentionally Walked four times in one game, having not been intentionally walked once in the year before.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is what breaks out at these parties. It's why I love it when he and Mike Schur get together. It's like watching 9 year olds trade baseball cards.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a party to you.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is a party. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna show you what a party it is. At some point. I'm gonna show you. Buzz the Tower. Go ahead as you get out of here, Tim, just buzz the tower. Jeremy Tash's new show as endorsed by Tim Kirchen. You owe us this because we stumped you go ahead and do the endorsement. In the second hour of today's show, we have a new show, Jeremy Tache. Buzz the Tower.

[Tim Kirkjian]

Right. Jeremy Tashay has a new show. It's called Buzz the Tower. I am the director and the producer of the show. Please watch. It'll be well worth it.

[Jon Weiner]

It's really good.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know why he had to yell at us.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tim, thank you. It's always nice seeing you. It was good seeing you again. It's always lovely when you stop by.

[Tim Kirkjian]

Well, thanks for having me, fellas. I'll see you.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Jon Weiner]

Don Lebatard, our Panther Group Chat. We're confident against the lighting. This is a different team. You're a Panther Group Chat. No, no, I think no. But dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever, and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the Lightning sts.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want T shirts made for this Panther run. What could be this Panther run? Our Panther Group Chat. We're not afraid of the lightning.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a tagline for World three.

[Greg Cody]

This is the D? Ler show with the St Gods.

[Dan Le Batard]

So it's no longer Pitch clock. It is now Buzz the Tower.

[Jeremy Tache]

We get angel on the graphics.

[Dan Le Batard]

Everybody's good. Everybody's good with this. It's a cooler name.

[Tim Kirkjian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Well, he's now the director and producer too, so the fees are Definitely going to be divvied up a lot next.

[Jeremy Tache]

Next week. We'll, we'll talk about that this week. We're going to stick with calling it the Pitch Clock. And then into June, we'll, we'll settle the financials.

[Mike Ryan]

I got Maverick in trouble at Top Gun.

[Dan Le Batard]

I wanted to ask Andrew Hawkins about something that I never got to that, that really did delight me last week. And I know you guys talked about it some, but the idea that in professional football, where all of these people are just killing themselves for any advantage, that they would go to the owner's meetings and that the Philadelphia Eagles owner would speak for one hour about the tush push in a room of rich people yelling and screaming at each other about how to get a yard physically. And they've got to. At the center of our greatest combat sport, they've got the moral conundrum of this isn't really the spirit of everything we're doing around here. Can we, in this one spot, protect spirit of preciously? Because, like, if, if you want, if, if, if you want to stop the play, then stop the play. Stop the play. And then you've got the Eagles owner stop the play. Like you say, I won the championship. You can't stop my play. Rich guys.

[Greg Cody]

I'm getting juiced up, baby.

[Dan Le Batard]

And so these rich people yelling about this for an hour as the other owners are like, have you said enough yet? It's one of the great dumb things I've ever seen at the top of leadership in anything.

[Greg Cody]

That's football, baby. That's how it goes, Dan. It's all about it doesn't matter how rich you are, how competitive are you? Can you stop me? Can you stop my team? If so, do it. Don't change the rules.

[Dan Le Batard]

Be a man.

[Greg Cody]

I don't care how rich, how old, how fragile the bones may be.

[Jon Weiner]

It's a spirit.

[Greg Cody]

Let's go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Were they at the breakers when they were doing these meetings?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, the Breakers. Traditionally, there's something that is overlooked, and the NFL and the other teams that oppose this have done a really good job in shaping this narrative in that that's an anti football play. That's not football. That's not what we tune into. I think it's as simple as this. There was one team that actually came out in support of the Philadelphia Eagles that plays the Philadelphia Eagles. All these teams are just doing what they should do, the responsibility to their team. If there is an unstoppable play that the Philadelphia Eagles run and you play the Philadelphia Eagles or think you could play them down the line. You owe it to your franchise to come out and stomp your feet and say no, no, not a good play, not aesthetically pleased and not what we do. When all you're trying to do is win a frickin football game. Credit to Dan Campbell for being like, yeah, we play them. We like to do that too. They can do it. Only team that plays Philadelphia that came out in support of the play.

[Greg Cody]

It doesn't surprise me. It was Dan Campbell. Absolutely.

[Chris Cody]

Nafisa Cobbler.

[Greg Cody]

That's a good one. Hey, it is a football play.

[Mike Ryan]

We all fell for it. We all fell for this aesthetically pleasing debate. When it's just teams trying to find an advantage because that team has one. They've been kicking our ass with it. We want to win the football games and take away this short yardage play. It's all they're doing. They probably, if they were successful at it, they'd be like don't, don't take this play away. If they didn't have to worry about the Philadelphia Eagles, they'd be hell if I care. But they are trying to win football games and taking that play away from them increases your probability of beating them.

[Greg Cody]

The issue isn't the tush push. Like yes, it's an unstoppable play, but it's within the rules. And that is the whole point of the game. To try to find the plays where your probability is so high that you can bank on it. The issue is can you stop them in first and second down which they can't because the roster is so talented. Like the way that they've constructed the roster. That's why it's impossible because now they bank their entire offense off of hey, we just need nine yards. We just maybe even need eight yards.

[Dan Le Batard]

Skyler Diggin, Chris Cody, you're eating Blizzard non stop there. And I believe that that coming to you. That's good. Just drop that on the floor there. Right five seconds. Yeah, that's exactly how to do the sponsor correctly. Yeah, yeah, put that right in your mouth.

[Chris Cody]

Sponsor?

[Greg Cody]

Oh actually no, not sponsored.

[Mike Ryan]

Maybe a potential one. So you're on.

[Jon Weiner]

You're on sponsor by my favorite hockey team.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you're just eating. So. Okay, I'm sorry, I assumed. My bad, I'm celebrating my bad. I thought that was product placement. Why would I think that? It's before 11am And a blizzard is aggressive.

[Jon Weiner]

I would say Marshan can do it, I'll do it.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, you got in there but Martian didn't do it.

[Greg Cody]

And there's Definitely hair on a spoon.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. That was disgusting.

[Greg Cody]

Let's be honest about what just happened there. His feet are right where.

[Jon Weiner]

No, you guys won't pick up a. It drops on the floor for one second, you guys.

[Greg Cody]

No way. Your shoes weren't in public bathrooms. And that spoon hit right where your shoes have been standing.

[Jon Weiner]

The worst. You all are the worst.

[Mike Ryan]

You're eating pee.

[Jon Weiner]

Get over it.

[Greg Cody]

Chris, feal matter on your tongue.

[Jon Weiner]

As Greg Cody has told me a long time, you got to eat a peck of dirt before you die.

[Tim Kirkjian]

Yep.

[Jon Weiner]

And a peck is a lot more than it sounds. It's like a big bag.

[Chris Cody]

Sabrina Inesc 2 because peck sounds really small.

[Mike Ryan]

It does.

[Jon Weiner]

You would think a peck is like the size of like a coke can.

[Greg Cody]

It's close to speck. And that's why it's the. Your brain.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm actually shocked to learn that.

[Jon Weiner]

Look it up. Peck is a huge sack.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. He should just say you should eat a huge sack of dirt because that would hit a lot harder.

[Dan Le Batard]

I will tell the people who are listening to this and not watching it, okay? Because this argument, Chris Cody is disgusting. A lot of different ways we learn it every day, okay? And right now he's lashing out at all of us, okay? And I understand why. He's surrounded and he's defensive and we're about to come after his hygiene, which is repulsive and fairly, I might add. And so he's just like throwing smoke everywhere. Smoke bombs. So I'm going to tell the audience that might not have seen what happened there, which is he had a blizzard in his hand. And those are delightful. They are delicious. And as soon as I was going to him vision, usually the plastic spoon that he had fell on the floor at his feet with a sound I could hear. And at those feet, I will say are. I'm gonna say everyone who's walked through this studio for the last two years and I'm not sure how much they do cleaning around there. So there's two years of whatever. If there were one place in this entire establishment, I would not want something that I was putting in my mouth to fall. It would be the bathroom if it had not been cleaned. But I think it gets cleaned an awful lot more than where that just fell. You picked it up, you immediately stuck that and whatever hair was on it right back in your blizzard. It's disgusting.

[Jon Weiner]

I won't be shamed on this, you guys. None of you. When you drop something on the floor briefly, unless it's like, dirty, like, get over your Guy. You guys are all being ridiculous right here.

[Greg Cody]

Not a quick.

[Jon Weiner]

Internet is looking at me right now and being like, normal person. You guys are gonna try to shame me.

[Dan Le Batard]

You picked up a spoon and then.

[Jon Weiner]

You put it back in your mouth. What a monster.

[Chris Cody]

You think the Internet is gonna be like, you know what, Chris? Normal person. Everyone else, weird.

[Mike Ryan]

It's just the. Look.

[Greg Cody]

Watch it. It's not even like you didn't try to wipe it off.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

You didn't like, maybe go, I'm on air, guys.

[Jon Weiner]

I'm a showman.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Tim Kirkjian]

Okay.

[Jon Weiner]

We don't be like, Kristen, can I get. No, I'm in. We're on air. I got the blizzard here. I'm going back in.

[Chris Cody]

So this is show business. It's not.

[Dan Le Batard]

This isn't.

[Chris Cody]

So the cameras are off. The mics were off. You would have gone to the kitchen and gotten a different spoon.

[Jon Weiner]

But I am a five second rule guy. And, like, unless it's marked, unless I see a hair, like, I'm not that scared.

[Jeremy Tache]

Carpet's different, dude. Carpet's a different.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a wet spoon. You'd already put the spoon in your mouth.

[Greg Cody]

At least look at the spoon to be, like, falling a booger or not.

[Jon Weiner]

I glanced at it.

[Greg Cody]

You dumped it right into the blizzard.

[Jon Weiner]

Look at the spoon. It's clean.

[Chris Cody]

I'm looking at the replay right now. You did not even glance at it. You want.

[Jon Weiner]

Let me see this. Let me see the.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, hold on.

[Jon Weiner]

After the fall. That's after the fall.

[Greg Cody]

Wait a minute.

[Chris Cody]

Hold on it.

[Greg Cody]

The spoon falls on the ground.

[Dan Le Batard]

He didn't even look at it.

[Jon Weiner]

I want to see the pickup.

[Greg Cody]

Before you even put it into the blizzard to get, like, a scoop. You put it into your glance. There was nothing on it.

[Mike Ryan]

You spun it.

[Jon Weiner]

Look, I drop it. I pick it up and then I glance, glancing down. Gl I'm a showman.

[Greg Cody]

Chris, tell me we're on air.

[Tim Kirkjian]

You licked the dirt off.

[Mike Ryan]

Chris, before you put it in the blizzard.

[Tim Kirkjian]

You licked the dirt off.

[Greg Cody]

What was the reason for putting it in your mouth? There was no food on it.

[Jon Weiner]

I'm eating a blizzard.

[Greg Cody]

Only carpet on it at that point, bro.

[Mike Ryan]

No carpet.

[Jon Weiner]

J. O. I ate zero carpet.

[Greg Cody]

Like, there's no reason to put the spoon in your mouth at that point of eating.

[Chris Cody]

It's in your mouth.

[Dan Le Batard]

You put it in reverse.

[Chris Cody]

You see it.

[Mike Ryan]

You're like, let me fully get my tongue.

[Jon Weiner]

That's how Marshawn did it. That's how Marshawn did the spoon.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm doing my Marshawn no, but there's nothing on the spoon except carpet.

[Greg Cody]

You literally clean the spoon with your mouth before you put it into the food.

[Jon Weiner]

Showman.

[Jeremy Tache]

This is where Willow hangs out.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, you need a.

[Jon Weiner]

Damn it. Willow has laid in here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's.

[Mike Ryan]

Willow.

[Chris Cody]

Ethan's dog was here the other day. Is Roman.

[Tim Kirkjian]

Why is Ethan's dog.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bottoms of shoes Gross. In a place where there's a lot of construction. I will say that Chris Cody has done as foul a thing I have seen done around here. Any kind. No, hold on a second. Second. Hold on. I'm not done. I am not done. You are truly, truly disgusting. Okay, but. And this is why I have a soft spot for you. And I can't help but have a soft spot for you because what I just witnessed is truly appalling. Okay, Because I'm assuming without seeing it, that fuzz and all manner of debris came with that. No. Okay, let's say listen.

[Chris Cody]

No, you didn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

You didn't.

[Chris Cody]

You didn't look.

[Dan Le Batard]

You did not look. You cannot put that on the way up.

[Jon Weiner]

I was, like, looking.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, all right. Listen. I am Sam Van Gundy, because I don't think anyone's hearing me on this.

[Chris Cody]

You're not looking or listening.

[Dan Le Batard]

Your defense, I'm a showman is the single funniest thing you've ever said. Thank you.

[Jon Weiner]

I mean, that's what I'm doing here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Here.

[Jon Weiner]

I don't, like, let a little thing of dirt stop the show. Hawk, you get this. You were with me before, I thought.

[Chris Cody]

Hawk, you get this.

[Greg Cody]

There's, like, certain degrees, man. There is a little bit of nuance and context that matters. But again, spoon to the mouth for no apparent reason after the dirt drop.

[Tim Kirkjian]

It's.

[Greg Cody]

It's. It's objectively wild.

[Jon Weiner]

So Mike is doing an experiment right now. He just put a wet towel on the floor, lift it up, and we're going to see. Not terr. I'm telling you, the cleaning people come in here like we're spending a lot of money on cleaning. Like, there's people all the time in here cleaning.

[Greg Cody]

So what is it that the floor is clean or that you're a Showman or. The 5 second. You're giving me a lot of explanations here.

[Jon Weiner]

I glanced, didn't see anything. So I'm like, I'm a showman. Don't care. Let's go.

[Greg Cody]

I don't think the five second rule applies to things that aren't food, because there's no reason to put it back in your mouth at that point. You can clean it off.

[Jon Weiner]

Let me see this thing. This thing. Not dirty at all. Look at it. Clean. I'll put it in your mouth.

[Greg Cody]

Don't put it in your mouth. You better.

[Jon Weiner]

I'll put it in my mouth.

[Chris Cody]

Don't do that.

[Mike Ryan]

I know you're a showman and everything. You know what?

[Dan Le Batard]

Go ahead and do it, showman. Do it. During buzz the tower.

[Chris Cody]

You better not refer to our DraftKings contract.

[Greg Cody]

Don't do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't say we've changed.

[Mike Ryan]

That's too close.

[Chris Cody]

I told the story before. I never throw up on flights. The last time I threw up on a flight was I was watching. Was it Dominique eat the p? The picture of Stugati's family?

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I, well, I was throwing up and then it became sort of contagious.

[Chris Cody]

I threw up watching it on.

[Dan Le Batard]

On a flight. No, it's disgusting. Billy. No, don't do this.

[Jon Weiner]

You think I'm afraid of this thing, though? No, I just need you guys to acknowledge that I will. I won't do it if you don't want me to do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, Mike.

[Chris Cody]

Stop doing that. Mike.

[Jon Weiner]

He said I won't.

[Greg Cody]

Why do you want to do.

[Jon Weiner]

I don't want it.

[Mike Ryan]

Don't go.

[Jon Weiner]

Is there time left in this show?

[Tim Kirkjian]

Hop?

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah, there's time.

[Jon Weiner]

Is the show on?

[Greg Cody]

Show is on.

[Mike Ryan]

His hand is shaking.

[Greg Cody]

This.

[Jon Weiner]

Oh, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh.

[Jon Weiner]

I feel good about that.

[Mike Ryan]

A lot of fibers.

[Jon Weiner]

I feel good about that.

[Greg Cody]

You know what? That's I hate?

[Jon Weiner]

Showman. Showman.

[Mike Ryan]

Showman.

[Jeremy Tache]

Mike, like, scrub to the floor with.

[Mike Ryan]

I didn't know I was going up against a showman.

[Jon Weiner]

Anyone want to bite Grace's name?

[Mike Ryan]

No, I'm good.

[Greg Cody]

This is why, man. This is what happened.

[Jon Weiner]

Oh, this is fun. Back row. Chris, I am back.

[Mike Ryan]

Hi, Jinx.

[Jeremy Tache]

According to Transformers, Wiki Panther was a maximal ground soldier and somewhat of an oddball.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, oddball. Monday through Thursdays, DraftKings Network.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wherever you get podcast, you good, bro?

[Chris Cody]

There's nothing I wanted in my mind. It was a switcheroo. There was another one that he switched up and I was like, no, I mean, you were looking at him the whole time. I mean, there were no such a roos.

[Greg Cody]

Mike scrubbed the floor with that.

[Jon Weiner]

He might have stomped on it.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

So that's Dan. Don't throw up. Please don't throw up.

[Jon Weiner]

Dan gives good throw up sound, though.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Chris is gonna be spreading.

[Chris Cody]

That's not just a sound.

[Jon Weiner]

No, I know. I'm just saying, though, like, that you're.

[Greg Cody]

Putting everyone else in danger. Now the germs you're taking on, Wash.

[Jon Weiner]

It down with a little Blizzard is.

[Greg Cody]

Now exposing everybody else to it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, wow.

[Chris Cody]

Aaliyah Boston market.

[Dan Le Batard]

My eyes are watering. This must be what it's like to try and hold it from farting on a plane.

[Mike Ryan]

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