Hour 1: Dan Leads The Matt Gaetz Fan Club

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Hour 1: Dan Leads The Matt Gaetz Fan Club

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1. Mike Tyson vs. Matt Gaetz Boxing Match Discussion

Timestamp: [01:20] – [05:18]

The episode kicks off with a spirited debate about the highly anticipated exhibition boxing match between former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson and Republican congressman Matt Gaetz. Host Dan Le Batard questions Amin Elhassan's skepticism regarding Tyson's performance at the age of 58:

Dan Le Batard [01:20]: "You’re of the belief, Amin, that a 58-year-old Mike Tyson is just going to get tired prowling a ring."

Stugotz echoes Dan's concerns, emphasizing Tyson's enduring power:

Stugotz [02:37]: "Can you eat that punch? And I don't know if he's ever been hit as hard as he's going to get hit by Mike Tyson."

Amin speculates whether the fight will be a mere spectacle:

Amin Elhassan [02:37]: "Is there any scenario where this turns out to be like them, just playing patty cake for a payday for Mike Tyson?"

Dan remains critical, highlighting Tyson's aggressive fighting style and the improbability of Gaetz withstanding his onslaught:

Dan Le Batard [03:30]: "Mike Tyson is still that fast. He's still slipping all my stuff... He's never been hit by anything as hard as Mike Tyson."

2. Reflections on Boxing as a Sport

Timestamp: [05:18] – [10:43]

The discussion transitions into a broader critique of modern boxing, lamenting the shift from the sport's artistic and scientific roots to its current spectacle-driven nature. Dan expresses disillusionment:

Dan Le Batard [07:02]: "It saddens me to see a sport that I really cherished not be able to produce an event like this...It's distorted to this obviously disappoints me, but not enough to keep me away from the circus."

Stugotz shares anecdotes about legendary fighters like Roy Jones Jr. and Floyd Mayweather, underscoring their enduring toughness and skill:

Stugotz [05:01]: "Roy Jones Jr. Was on All the Smoke... he once, in the middle of a fight, broke his hand. So then he beat the guy up with his other hand."

Dan criticizes the commercialization of boxing:

Dan Le Batard [08:01]: "This is what this audience is...half is going to be into the tent because...I find myself interested in it even though I don't think the merits of it as a boxing match are art in any way."

3. Eagles vs. Patriots Super Bowl Analysis

Timestamp: [10:59] – [11:35]

Shifting focus to the NFL, the hosts analyze the Eagles' Super Bowl victory over the Patriots, attributing their win to superior toughness and strategic plays like the "Philly Special":

Dan Le Batard [11:23]: "But the Patriots lack no toughness."

Mike Ryan [11:35]: "And you have to be mentally tough."

4. Pablo Torre’s New Role and Political Commentary

Timestamp: [19:06] – [23:29]

The conversation turns to sports journalist Pablo Torre's new position at MSNBC, prompting a playful yet pointed exchange about political leanings and media bias:

Dan Le Batard [19:06]: "Pablo Torre joins us now...Congratulations, Pablo, on your new job."

Amin Elhassan [21:10]: "You might want to do some of the research I've been doing on Matt Gaetz before you say that you're on the side of Matt Gaetz."

The hosts delve into their perceptions of Torre's political stances, Matt Gaetz's controversies, and broader critiques of media narratives. Discussions touch on themes like the "deep state," alien conspiracies, and the cyclical nature of political rebellion.

5. Alex Jones and Infowars Commentary

Timestamp: [26:38] – [29:32]

Amin shares his thoughts on Alex Jones and the recent acquisition of Infowars by The Onion, viewing it as a satirical yet impactful move:

Amin Elhassan [26:38]: "I love the poetry of it...It's perfect. I'm excited for the investment."

Dan struggles to find a comedic angle, ultimately agreeing on describing Jones as "odious":

Dan Le Batard [28:22]: "Odious has nothing to do with how not terrible he is. I'm asking the group here to give me a better word."

The group proposes alternatives like "repugnant" and "abhorrent," settling on descriptors that capture Jones' divisive presence.

6. Broadcast Production and Fantasy Football on Death Row

Timestamp: [35:27] – [44:48]

In a creative segment, the hosts humorously explore the concept of playing fantasy football on death row. Amin describes the logistical challenges inmates would face:

Amin Elhassan [41:11]: "How do you play fantasy football on death row... Enjoying this conversation, one fantasy."

The discussion highlights the absurdity and dark humor in blending sports with the grim reality of the death penalty, while poking fun at production decisions related to storytelling:

Dan Le Batard [42:32]: "He was saying something dramatic. I get it. He's on death row and the people around him die. The music doesn't make it any different."

7. Victory Lap – Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets’ Win

Timestamp: [35:58] – [44:48]

Stugotz celebrates Georgia Tech's victory over Miami, attributing the win to the team's defensive prowess and strategic execution. The segment is a high-energy, breathless recount of the game's highlights and the excitement surrounding it:

Stugotz [35:58]: "We locked up the Heisman Trophy winning guy... You guys said, oh, well, Miami's gonna score 38 points every game. But we put y’all in cuffs."

Dan and the team engage in playful banter about utilizing Peloton for their victory lap, blending sports enthusiasm with sponsor segments.

8. Closing Remarks and Sponsors

Timestamp: [44:48] – [46:37]

The episode wraps up with mentions of sponsors like GameTime and Grainger, seamlessly integrating advertisements into the show's dynamic flow. The hosts maintain their trademark humor and camaraderie, ensuring a memorable conclusion to the episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• Dan Le Batard [01:20]: "You’re of the belief, Amin, that a 58-year-old Mike Tyson is just going to get tired prowling a ring."

• Stugotz [02:37]: "Can you eat that punch? And I don't know if he's ever been hit as hard as he's going to get hit by Mike Tyson."

• Dan Le Batard [07:02]: "It saddens me to see a sport that I really cherished not be able to produce an event like this...It's distorted to this obviously disappoints me, but not enough to keep me away from the circus."

• Amin Elhassan [26:38]: "I love the poetry of it...It's perfect. I'm excited for the investment."

• Dan Le Batard [28:22]: "Odious has nothing to do with how not terrible he is. I'm asking the group here to give me a better word."

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This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a blend of sports analysis, political commentary, and irreverent humor, anchored by lively discussions and sharp insights. Whether debating the legitimacy of celebrity boxing matches or critiquing media personalities, the hosts provide a captivating listen for both regular fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

Folks, listen up.

[Amin Elhassan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

With the Stuttgarts podcast. So you're of the belief, amin, that a 58 year old mike Tyson is just going to get tired prowling a ring. Because I do think that the people listening to this have very little understanding of what two minutes of cardio in boxing actually is. I don't know that a lot of people, when you, when you combine the fear with what it is that you're physically doing and the fear the hour before you walk into the ring of oh, oh my God, I'm now in the middle of a whole bunch of people and I have the potential to look like SPO at the end of a game when somebody hits me.

[Stugotz]

If he's looked like spoilers, then that must have been the biggest win of the night to walk out of that looking like spo. That's not the fear. The fear is I'm going to get pulverized. Because I guarantee you, I don't care how much shape he's in and how much Younger. He's never been hit by anything as hard as Mike Tyson. That's what it comes down to. Yes, you're right. If he runs around the ring and extends this and makes it into a marathon, not a sprint, he greatly improves his chances. Even in Mike Tyson's prime, we knew longer fight is worse for Mike. But it all comes down to one thing. Can you eat that punch? And I don't know if he's ever been hit as hard as he's going to get hit by Mike Tyson.

[Amin Elhassan]

Is there any scenario where this turns out to be like them, just playing patty cake for a payday for Mike Tyson?

[Mike Ryan]

Where we.

[Amin Elhassan]

Where we come here Monday and we're like, I can't believe we all fell for this. That was a joke.

[Dan Le Batard]

You'll know right away, because if Tyson doesn't charge him, you'll know right away. The way Tyson fights is always straight ahead. Like, if Tyson wants to prowl the ring with him, you will know right away, because Tyson was straight ahead. As a fighter, the reason he became the most feared isn't because he just knocked everyone out. It's because you didn't know how to hit him. It was straight at you, and he didn't back down. No matter your size advantages, he was always, man, go look at what Frank Bruno looked like in his prime, going to the ring to fight Mike Tyson, crossing himself because he was so afraid. If Jake Paul isn't afraid, he ought to be because of what Amin is talking about. Even at 58, no one would want to be hit by this human being.

[Stugotz]

Dan, we're efforting this right now. I just sent it to the video guys. But Roy Jones Jr. Was on all the Smoke, and he talked about that fight that he had against Mike, which was an exhibition. It wasn't real. And you've talked to Roy Jones. You know Roy Jones, this is one of the proudest human beings ever. Right for a frame of reference for the younger listeners. He once, in the middle of a fight, broke his hand. So then he beat the guy up with his other hand, and then later on made a song about it. He said, y'all must have forgot when I broke.

[Dan Le Batard]

One of the greatest fighters ever. One of the toughest fighters.

[Stugotz]

One of the toughest fighters ever. To listen to him on all the Smoke, talk about Mike Tyson fighting Mike Tyson, the amount of. Whether you want to call it fear or deference. I've never heard Roy Jones be that, like, vulnerable, like he was a regular dude. Mike. Dan. Oh, I'll call you Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's Okay. No. What Amin is talking about, though, is what I see happening around this fight everywhere, which is people my age and Amin's age are nostalgic for remembering something that was this feared because it doesn't exist now. Even the MMA guys that crawl around on the floor when it's wrestling, it's not quite what Ngannou was in that sport, where it's someone who's physically stronger than everyone else. And the people listening to this are gonna also rem and would fight you in the street if you were Mitch Blood Green outside in Harlem at 4am Outside a haberdashery. Like, if you want.

[Stugotz]

That's one of the greatest stories of all time, by the way.

[Dan Le Batard]

But do it like, as heavyweight champion would fight you in the street outside of a haberdashery because. And Mitch Bloodgreen, you could look him up, too. Not a small human being, not a human being to be trifled with, and left him, you know, really bloodied. The legend of Mike Tyson is 40 years in the making.

[Stugotz]

Daniel Fat Joe tells one of the greatest stories I've ever heard, where he said him and Big Pun were at this club called the Tunnel, which was a very infamous, very rough crowd, rowdy crowd, and the bouncers were the baddest human beings ever. And so there was a misunderstanding. The bouncers started getting physical with Fat Joe and Big Pun. Big Pun says, f that. I'm gonna f all y'all up. There's like 25 of them and just two of Joe and Pun. And Joe's like. As Joe telling the story, he's like, there's no chance we're gonna win this. But, like, I can't abandon my guy. But it's like, do we have to do this? And so as it's clear that an ass whooping is about to happen right outside of the Tunnel, they hear from the background, hey, Joe. Hey, Pun. I got y'all. And Mike Tyson comes out. He kicks off his Gucci loafers and starts chasing the bouncers barefoot. And Joe says at one point, Mike is playing that cat and mouse game around a car with a bouncer. And about Joe, please tell him I'm sorry. I won't. Like, it's this 6 5, 280 pound dude begging for his life because a rabid Mike Tyson is after him.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think that was soon after Tyson had come out of prison, I think it was. Or right before he was supposed to go in.

[Stugotz]

This is late 90s, because this is after, like, Big Pun has become.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does. Does anyone care about the legend of this. Because half of the people watching this are going to be watching because of Jake Paul. Correct. Like, this is what this audience is, is half is going to be get into the tent. Because you're like me and Amin and being like. Because I didn't watch the Roy Jones Jr. I thought that was going to make me sad. This one. I find myself interested in it even though I don't think the merits of it as a boxing match are art in any way.

[Mike Ryan]

So you're watching it?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

I can already see the awful announcing headline that makes it seem like you're speaking from on high because you said some things that kind of dismiss this for a circus, but you're right there. You're eating at the truck.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to mock it and enjoy it. I don't want to celebrate it as boxing. I don't mind it as an event that feels like America is going to gather around the television on something because I think it's going to do monster numbers. Like, I don't think it's going to, I don't think it's going to fail. Even if it fails as an entertainment spectacle, I don't think it's going to fail in terms of drawing viewers, which is what boxing has now become. Like this to me, obviously. It saddens me to see a sport that I really cherished not be able to produce an event like this when heavyweight nights in America used to be the biggest thing in sports, when there was a championship fight. To see it distorted to this obviously disappoints me, but not enough to keep me away from the circus. Tench.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm a little worried about Mike Tyson's health, honestly. In the fight, I, I, I tuned in and I watched Logan Paul box Floyd Mayweather. It was an underwhelming spectacle, but it was a spectacle. I like the circus.

[Dan Le Batard]

Although I was born in a box.

[Amin Elhassan]

Boxing has never really been for me.

[Stugotz]

Get it? Because he's up.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was good.

[Stugotz]

No. Oh, man. I, I'm, I am with Jer Bear.

[Amin Elhassan]

On this, where I wasn't born in.

[Stugotz]

Like, the golden era of boxing.

[Amin Elhassan]

And so I think the younger people that like boxing are the ones that are Paul brothers. And I'm not really into that either.

[Stugotz]

So this is sort of some.

[Amin Elhassan]

I will be watching Houston versus Arizona tomorrow night.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the thing.

[Mike Ryan]

Big one for the Wildcats.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like this. This is the thing. These are two people. You got a convicted rapist who is in the ring after serving time. And also in the details of this man's life. Lest you wonder why it is he was so feared, went to prison and was grateful because it slowed down his life and he wasn't scared of anyone there. And he could just live a more disciplined life. That felt safer to him in prison than what was happening outdoors. Being the famous heavyweight champion of the world because he couldn't handle all of that. Was very comfortable in prison.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, you could say that. Legend has it he's the only person who checked into prison and wasn't, like, freaking out on their first night. I mean, he kind of made himself home. And everyone's like, oh, shit, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a fairly shocking.

[Stugotz]

Think about that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Shocking.

[Stugotz]

You're going to spend the next X amount of years sequestered from society. You're going to be on a strict regimen and you're going to eat this crap that we've served you, and you're not going to have any freedoms. And Michael's like, cool. That in of itself is terrifying enough. But this is Roy Jones Jr. Dan talking to the all the smoke guys about his fight with Mike Tyson. I was worried.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was too.

[Stugotz]

Listen, y'all can't be out there trying to kill each other. What else do he know? That's all he know. What else do he know? If he trying to hit you like he gonna be trying to kill you.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's all he know.

[Stugotz]

So first time he be in the chest, I feel like a horse and keep myself. I ain't think he pushed like this still.

[Amin Elhassan]

You feel me?

[Stugotz]

I couldn't slow down.

[Amin Elhassan]

Nah, bro, I ain't slowed down.

[Stugotz]

At 54, he's still that fast. He's still slipping him.

[Amin Elhassan]

You feel me? He's still slipping all my stuff.

[Dan Le Batard]

And I'm right now.

[Amin Elhassan]

Cause I gotta be right just in.

[Stugotz]

Case he get wrong and we gonna get wrong together.

[Amin Elhassan]

You feel me?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm thinking.

[Amin Elhassan]

You understand me?

[Stugotz]

He fast head and he punched that head. First of all, he's still too strong. He still got all his old tricks. And he much harder to hit than.

[Amin Elhassan]

I ever thought he would have been.

[Dan Le Batard]

You understand me?

[Stugotz]

That's what was surprising to me. So you hear Steven Jackson said, I was worried for you. And Roy Jones Jr. Says, I was worried, too. I've never heard him sound that vulnerable that. Like I said, he sounded like a regular guy got in the ring with Mike Tyson.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you know the credentials of the person saying that, you understand what Amin is saying. And there are. I'm going to have to concede after earlier arguments, degrees of toughness. But I would ask you again. As we go back to Eagles, Patriot, Super Bowl. You think that the Eagles won that super bowl because they were tougher after Tom Brady threw for 500 yards in that game.

[Mike Ryan]

Classic Dan, boiling it down to a singular thing. No, I think it was a contributing factor.

[Dan Le Batard]

But the Patriots lack no toughness. Correct.

[Mike Ryan]

They're also a tough team. But on that day, the Eagles proved to be tougher along the inside.

[Stugotz]

And you have to be mentally tough.

[Dan Le Batard]

To call the Philly Special in that spot. You guys interested? Am I going to be the only one watching?

[Mike Ryan]

No, I'm going to see if I can watch it.

[Amin Elhassan]

My buddy's having people over like it's a thing. It's definitely.

[Mike Ryan]

I just really want to see Jake.

[Amin Elhassan]

Paul get knocked out.

[Stugotz]

Absolutely watching it. Dan, you could tell me only three people were watching this and I'd be one of those three people.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, but what I'm asking though, I'd.

[Mike Ryan]

Be the third and Mike Tyson would be. Aren't you that seven year old kid that I bumped into?

[Stugotz]

I have so many more Mike Tyson stories, it's crazy. He's the most fascinating athlete of my time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, you can make that argument that, I don't know, that you would get a lot of in terms of just interesting, everything swirling around him. I saw a documentary, or started to watch a documentary last night on Ted Turner, on Max, and I'm like, oh my God, that's got to be interesting because I just started. I'm like, this is going to be fascinating because this guy has lived just such an enormous life. I can't believe Mike Tyson is still alive to be able to collect this paycheck. Mike Tyson can't believe that Mike Tyson is still alive to collect this paycheck.

[Stugotz]

With all his faculties. I mean, I mean, most of them, some of them. Look, you know how boxers age. They don't typically age like Mike. Right. Roy Jones is a great example of one who's aged great. But Roy Jones was a guy that, like, nobody could touch. He was so quick. Same thing with Floyd Mayweather. Same thing with the golden boy, Oscar De La Hoya. These are all guys, first of all, smaller guys. Second of all, guys that their elusiveness was a big part of their thing, right? Mike took some hits, dude. He took some beatings in there. And for him to be reasonably comparable to what he was like at a younger age, mentally is kind of shocking in and of itself.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, my arm is still throbbing.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, toughness.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

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[Mike Ryan]

If you listen to ESPN daily, he.

[Amin Elhassan]

Sounds like he's having the time of his life.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugots Coming up next, I'm gonna tell.

[Amin Elhassan]

You, the Savannah Bananas are changing.

[Dan Le Batard]

How do you know I'm smiling?

[Mike Ryan]

Savannah Bananas.

[Amin Elhassan]

How do you know I'm smiling?

[Mike Ryan]

That's how I find my vocal range. Sometimes I just say, savannah Bananas. Savannah Bananas.

[Amin Elhassan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stuttgarts.

[Mike Ryan]

Show hangout next week. A week from today, we will be at one of my favorite places on the planet. A Flanagans. That's right. Three of my favorite things are coming together for one spectacular event.

[Amin Elhassan]

Browns football.

[Mike Ryan]

Not Browns football.

[Stugotz]

Willow.

[Mike Ryan]

Is she gonna be there?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, yes.

[Amin Elhassan]

What? So I heard it was outdoors. I asked if I could bring Willow and I was told I could bring Willow.

[Mike Ryan]

That is a selling point. Miller Lite. You've secured Willow. All right. Miller Lite, LeBatard Show. Flanagans Thursday Night Football happening. We like to get out there and touch the fans, touch the people. We will be in North Miami Beach. The address for this Flanagan's is 13205 Biscayne Boulevard, North Miami. And we're going to have a great time. There's going to be Miller Light flowing. There's going to be me rooting for the Steelers, I think, over the Browns in this game. I'm a big Mr. Unlimited fan now. I love Mr. Unlimited. And also, let's just laugh at the Browns together. Let's have some rib rolls, let's have some Miller Light, and let's root for an under.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy, will you be going?

[Amin Elhassan]

Maybe.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, Looking forward to it. We do like Flanagan's around here.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, no, like is really underselling it. It is a part of the South Florida experience to go to a Flanagans. There isn't a true native South Floridian that doesn't adore Flanagans. It's our little space. It is here in this little bottom half of this wonderful peninsula that a lot of people have a lot of feelings about.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's ours. It's uniquely ours. Pablo Torre joins us now. He has now officially, I think, signed a contract to be a part of the powerful liberal media elite with msnbc. I believe that he is now under threat the same way the View is, because the View doesn't have enough opinions on its show. And I'm sure that Pablo Torre's show is also an echo cham filled with a bunch of people just like him. Congratulations, Pablo, on your new job.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, it's me and Whoopi Goldberg in a bunker and we shout takes at each other and it's going great so far.

[Dan Le Batard]

How, how did you experience yesterday in America with the, the dismantling of our government with an assortment of assholes and awful people?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. On some level I was like, of course. This is, this is of course the most predictable thing. And another level surprised me insofar as I was like, I'm now, I guess, gonna, I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read some Matt Gaetz, like, research. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually think about this for a while. I don't have a lot to say. That isn't probably predictable in the sense of this is exactly the stupidity that is cinematically on the nose appropriate. But. But yeah, part of me is like, you know, it's going to be funny when Donald Trump, of course, claims victimhood, because some of these guys maybe don't get confirmed. That's maybe the chess move here, if there is chess. Otherwise it's going to be confirmed, in which case, yeah, this is going to go great.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait, is Pablo liberal? Joe Rogan?

[Dan Le Batard]

This is not, not an echo chamber. Pablo Torre and His dalliances with MSNBC are something that I find myself turning Republican as I watch Go and How dare you?

[Amin Elhassan]

How dare you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I find myself creeping over somehow to the side of Matt Gaetz, as I just hear you be highfalutin with Joe Scarborough. Cup of Joe.

[Amin Elhassan]

You might want to do some of the research I've been doing in Matt Gates before you say that you're on the side of Matt Gates. There's a lot underneath that umbrella category.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now, wait a minute. That's how. That's how terrible you are. That has nothing to do with how not terrible he is. I'm saying that when I hear you guys.

[Amin Elhassan]

Are you sure?

[Dan Le Batard]

When I hear you guys creeping was accurate? Yes, maximum creeping. But what I is there's no way that anyone watching Pablo talk on MSNBC doesn't get bothered even if they agree with him.

[Amin Elhassan]

I gotta tell you, Dan, after being beholden to your audience and to of course the 5 to 6pm audience on ESPN, I have a whole new demo that I didn't know would ever care about my takes. And yes, there are largely older women, but it has been fantastic for your boy. I'm walking around and I'm hearing lots of great feedback that is the opposite, in fact, of what Creeping Dan Lebatar.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is has described.

[Amin Elhassan]

Not.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not an echo check. I'm surprised you're getting a lot of positive feedback.

[Mike Ryan]

Are you a zaddy now? Are you. Are you a liberal zaddy?

[Amin Elhassan]

Look, you asked if I'm liberal Joe Rogan. I am on testosterone replacement therapy. I am in fact increasingly convinced that there are aliens. And I do hang out with problematic people who compare themselves potentially to alleged, you know, offenders. Like the sweaty dude who just said he was on the side of Matt Gates. So kind of adds up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did not say that. Said it made me go closer to where his side was than your side just because of how awful you also.

[Mike Ryan]

Pablo, were you aware that there is a subsect of hardcore progressives that think that the UFO thing is just a diversionary tactic, that they're. They're UFO agnostic and this is all just a conspiracy theory to deflect people's attention from the real news? And I would say that, man, the real news deflected a lot of attention from someone claiming we collected non human biologics from a crash site.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, in general, I'm like the deep state we've been warned about. When are they going to show up? Because so far it's just a lot of people just doing whatever they want without any sort of counter. From the alleged forces that are secretly puppeteering everything, including it turns out me and my vocal cords. And it's, it's not showing up so far. So I'm just waiting. I'm waiting for that. Waiting for those.

[Dan Le Batard]

That.

[Amin Elhassan]

For that stimulus package to kick it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You used to be a member or might still be a member of the Boxing Writers association of America. Are you still a member or did you used to be a member, an.

[Amin Elhassan]

Award winning member, Dan, thank you for asking.

[Dan Le Batard]

You still are then.

[Amin Elhassan]

Probably not. I haven't paid my dues in a while, so maybe, maybe if they. If they just kept me on accidentally. But yeah, haven't. Haven't. Haven't put my membership papers in in a long time.

[Dan Le Batard]

The reason that I asked the question is just what are you to make like what you are. Somebody who fits right in the prime demo on whatever it is that Jake Paul and Mike Tyson are trying to do tomorrow night. That is spectacle and not really sp. So you are aware on this? I like. I not only like. I loved the mixed martial arts and combat sports. Loved. I'm using it past tense because I really did like the artistry and science of what it is that I was watching, which is vulnerability with maximum fear. Overcoming that fear to do something that's really hard to do in front of people and by yourself. No teamwork, no teammates. Like, I am fascinated by the courage of all of that and the desperation that goes into making people choose that as a leader, living. But. But I've soured on it a great deal because this is the crud that now passes for what this sport is. And I'm not even here to knock it because it's smart. They're going to make all the money.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. For a long time. Anybody who would ask me, so how do you feel about the NFL and how do you feel about again, these sort of like moral scoldingy sort of issues around sports? How do you feel about them? I'd be like, look, you should know something about me. I like boxing. I covered boxing. Boxing is consensual concussions, like extrapolate from that. My actual moral scale. If people are aware of what they're doing and they go into the ring and they want to entertain people and put their humiliation and their health on the line. Guess what? I'm super into that. I'm super interested. There's nothing better, Dan, as you experience yourself as. As a columnist than like covering a fight. The thing about this though is that it reminds me about just how dead my nerve endings are now. And this is a through line from like, what do you think about Matt Gaetz? To what do you think about Jake Paul fighting Mike tyson at age 60? Or whatever it is. Like, I've been on the Internet a long. At a certain point it became very obvious what the game is to the point where the think piece about the game became less interesting. Of course it's about humiliation on the line. Of course it's about attention. Of course boxing was ahead of all of this, all of us as a society in terms of like, what the game is here. Attention being currency, hatred being a lure to more eyeballs. Like, all of that was obvious in boxing. This is of course, the logical and now kind of boring result. You know, like, what, what, what enlivens me like Matt Gaetz, Attorney General, kind of sparked something and then it was back to like, yeah, but again, I kind of expected that.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're numb. You're numb.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yes. You gotta. It's not weird enough. It's just not weird enough. My tolerance for weird. Like a, like. Like a Chris Cody who has been reared on online pornography and really needs something extreme to get even the juices going anymore. That's how I feel about politics and sports and weird boxing events. It's just like, not weird enough. Sorry. Do better.

[Dan Le Batard]

What were your thoughts on the last 24 hours of Alex Jones?

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, what Ben Collins is doing at the Onion feels like something that we need. And I say we as just like people who want comedy as a concept to not be monopolized by people who are deeply unfunny and actually very deeply scolding in their attempt to be endangered species. Which is to say Ben Collins and the Onion buying infowars at a bankruptcy auction is perfect. It's perfect. And I'm excited for the investment. Again, like real people with money putting. Putting those resources into what feels like a joke and yet is also an appropriate commentary given. Again, all the caveats apply about why Alex Jones, of course, is odious and why it's insane that we let him into anything, anything resembling polite spaces in an era where white spaces are basically non existent. But I love it. I love the poetry of it. That. That did actually get me going a bit. It was inspiring, frankly. Like, what a great bit was my number one reaction.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was trying to figure out how to buy it. I just didn't think I could find the funny in the bit. I was trying to think of where it is that we could make an attempt to try and buy that and be funny around it. But it seemed all too dangerous to try to be funny about. I will say, though, Odious. I can't do a better word than that comedically and accurately. Odious is an. Somebody do better than odious. When describing somebody and wanting to most dismiss them, I'm asking the group here to give me a better word.

[Mike Ryan]

Rat.

[Dan Le Batard]

Think comedically than odious. Just. Well, not just insults. I'm looking more sort of for adjectives really. Odious.

[Amin Elhassan]

Dipshit.

[Mike Ryan]

What's an adjective?

[Dan Le Batard]

Dip. Shitty. Dipshit is a noun. You guys are using all nouns. Rat.

[Mike Ryan]

Repugnant.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys. Yeah, repugnance. Pretty good. That's a good one for you.

[Amin Elhassan]

I go feckless sometimes. Feckless.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, give him the highfalutin sound. That right there is the music. Feckless is.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, abhorrent.

[Dan Le Batard]

Feckless is too high brown. How are you pronouncing that? I go abhorrent there. I've got a. I've got the abhorrent. Yeah, abhorrent is how I do it there.

[Mike Ryan]

Hard whore.

[Dan Le Batard]

Odious. Odious is pretty damn good. Pablo, I salute you. I can't do better than that. I'm thinking it evokes a smell.

[Amin Elhassan]

There's like a stench. There's an implied stench.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but that's. It's. It doesn't. It's. It's not implied. Odious. You're telling me that something stinks immediately? Like that's.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. I want to barf. It makes me want to barf. Barf worthy. Not as. Not as highfalutin, but means the same thing.

[Mike Ryan]

Pablo, I'm curious your opinion on this. I'm kind of trying to. Everyone's trying to unpack what happened and how our generation was told we have to leave this place better for our kids. And then our kids ended up voting for Republicans in record numbers, it would appear. And it caught a lot of people by surprise. And then I realized that's how teenage rebellion kind of works. It was the same case with kids that were born during the Reagan administration. They veered more liberals. So maybe this is the yo yo that'll go back and forth. I do actually think progressives are in a. In a good position now, although they won't ever agree on that, given everything that's happened, especially in the last few days. But it's a lot cooler to be chasing. You can be anti establishment when you're not the ones in charge. Our show peaked when Donald Trump had his first term in terms of audience, in terms of reach, in terms of cultural impact, because we were chasing that. Then when we were all of a sudden in charge, I use we, the royal we, the. The cool thing was to go against who was in charge and rage against that machine. So now that the shoe is going to be on the other foot, I actually think you gotta lean into the cool things that make you rebel.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. I saw among many charts that my brain has picked up like a lint roller over the last several weeks, just like bits of trash and information. That demographic chart about how Gen X was the strongest generation in terms of favoring Trump was perfect. Right. Because of course, Gen X rebels. People who are too cool, who are anti the system, end up embodying the very thing that they railed against. And this is in some ways, Mike, like, yeah, the pendulum. Just the pendulum of. Of human political behavior swinging back and forth such that any sort of murder mystery diagnosis of, like, who caused this? Who did it? Oh, it was. It was Pablo Torre in the library with. With a take about trans people. It's like, no, actually, it's probably just the pendulum swinging back and forth, everybody feeling like they don't want to be the system and therefore plausibly claiming that they're not the system when they're out of power. We're definitely getting, in terms of, like, people who are not on the, again, the Matt Gates side of things. We're getting to benefit from that actual danger, actual potentially, you know, persecution, prosecution from the richest man in the world who has become the most powerful private citizen in the history of America after campaigning against the unelected forces actually running America. Like, of course, like, yeah, fill in all of the obvious hypocrisies that you might point out with your magnifying glass at this point. But we're back to being in danger from a political perspective and therefore probably culturally ascendant in that same way.

[Mike Ryan]

Quick follow up. Curious your thoughts? It's been said, and I don't see any hard data that suggests this. So I guess it's been hypothesized that millennials are better at parsing through misinformation on the Internet, better than any other generation. Not the ones that were born when the Internet was fully rocking in a thing, not the ones that were pre Internet. We're the only generation that met it kind of in the middle. We remember life before the Internet and we remember when the Internet came along. Why do you think that's being said about our generation, that we're the best at filtering through this? It would stand to reason that it would be the youngest generations that would be better because it's so ever present.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, because you have older friends, parents, bosses, hosts of this very show, in fact, who are constantly asking us, how do you do this thing on your phone? And then we have to realize we, we don't know either. So we got to figure that out.

[Dan Le Batard]

Unnecessary.

[Amin Elhassan]

When Dan's AOL email address is asking, is this shark real? It's like, yeah, we got trained in speaking to both parties. Here we are across the aisle of time and politics in that way. Also, Mike, just in terms of my nostalgia, I think we're a generation that longs for the sweet, sweet simplicity of a dial up modem screaming at us. We remember what it was like when you had to earn a jpeg. When Carmen Electra loading that. That image was a character building patience requiring experience. We didn't have the on demand synapse destruction of whatever again. Chris Cody is into these.

[Stugotz]

Mom, get off the phone.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm trying to chat someone. My crush is online. Yes, yes, we remember what it meant when a door opened and closed on our buddy list. Who is that? Damn it.

[Mike Ryan]

Bye.

[Stugotz]

Goodbye.

[Mike Ryan]

Rest in peace.

[Dan Le Batard]

By the way, he just died. Goodbye. He just died. He died.

[Amin Elhassan]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Dan Le Batard]

The aol. Goodbye.

[Mike Ryan]

The UF male voice.

[Dan Le Batard]

He passed away last week. He passed away last week? Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Tom Hanks.

[Mike Ryan]

No, he's still very much alive and thinks 35 is the toughest age.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pablo, stay right there for a second. We have to go immediately to Amino Hassan. He is taking a victory lap. It is a sponsored segment. It is important that we break into all programming to take care of our sponsors. We will continue to tell the audience the most important, one of the most supportive audiences in the history of all media, not just sports media, to please support the sponsors who support us. And here is Amin Al Hassan taking a victory lap today. And I can see where this is going.

[Stugotz]

Oh, Dan, first of all, shout out to Jocelyn Thompson Rule. I call her Joss Rule. She's my instructor on the Peloton app. I love the Peloton. I love. You know, every time we do this segment, everyone's winded and out of breath and sweating and they're doing jumping jacks and stuff. And I think it's intimidating sometimes. Some people are like, I can't do Peloton. I'm not in shape. Guess what? They've got a lot of stuff for beginners. For starters, take it easy. Like I said, Joss Rule has me on a five minute warm up walk, which is perfect because I'm doing A victory lap.

[Dan Le Batard]

To the victory lap, please. I didn't need the preamble lap, buddy.

[Stugotz]

The preamble is kind of what's paying for this whole thing, so relax. Relax on that. But as I was saying, me and Josh rule, we're doing a little victory lap because my Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets did what I told you all what would happen last week. I said it multiple times. And you guys. And what did I tell you, Dan? It's so freeing to be a fan. You guys suck. We're gonna kick your ass. And that's all it took. Took. That's all it took. And by the way, I heard the analysis on Monday. I heard it, Mike. You guys talk so much.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, our defense.

[Stugotz]

And if our defense can hardly be. What about our defense? What about our defense? We locked y'all up. We locked up the Heisman Trophy winning guy. Who's going to win the Heisman Trophy. We locked up the number one offense in the land. You guys did not give our defense enough credit. Forget about how our offense kicked your. We knew that was going to happen. You guys suck on the defensive side. But the thing that you're great at, we stopped you there, too. You guys said, oh, well, Miami's gonna score 38 points every game. But the only question is, team was going 40. We didn't have to. You know why? Because we put y'all in cuffs. Guantanamo. That's where Cam Ward is at right now, wondering what went wrong in his life.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Guantanamo.

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

You essentially scored 35, and he kept the ball nine minutes at a time. That was really more about the offensive execution.

[Stugotz]

Look, buddy, you had your opportunities. They gave the dude the ball. Could you make some happen? No, he couldn't. Sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

This. This segment is supposed to be you breathless. It's victory.

[Stugotz]

No, no, no, no. It's a victory lap. No one sprints in a victory lap, Dan. And like I said, the Peloton app is great because it has stuff for beginners. You don't have to be killing yourself on the first day. You can ease into it, and that's where I'm at. And by the way, I am out of breath and shine. Tiny, too. So I don't know. Just because I'm not like. Like Tony doing push ups and stuff doesn't mean I'm not tired in here. Cardio comes in many different forms. Also, this is not the picture I wanted. This is like the nerds from Compy rushing uphill. I wanted the dude that looked like the Red Rifle taking a selfie next to Mario Crystal Ball.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was a great picture. And as soon as I saw you there, I wanted to tell video. Why are you not using that other great picture as opposed to the one you are using? I wanted to say that. And it's funny that you would say that you wanted the other one, which is spectacular, and not that one.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I mean, I say it because I know sometimes there are things that are wrong with, like, oh, well, look, the. The synapses and the. And the pixelation. I don't give a. Put that picture up. I don't care if it's stretched and Mario Cristobal looks like he's £400, as opposed to 350. Put it up there. I want to see it because I want to be that kid for a second. I don't miss a whole lot about college, but I do miss rushing to field. Daniel, have you. Here it is. That's my boy. Hold on. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. Oh, look at his face.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh.

[Stugotz]

How dare you take a picture of me. How dare you try to win against Georgia Tech, baby, huh?

[Dan Le Batard]

Mario Cristobal's not feeling good about that photo for a number of reasons.

[Stugotz]

He needs a bra.

[Dan Le Batard]

The boobs. Yeah, the boobs. Pablo.

[Stugotz]

A man's ear.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pablo, what were you going to say you wanted to get in here?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, I just wanted to apologize to Chris Cody. I. And we collectively have been turning him into the avatar, of course, of pornography in America. Meanwhile, Amino Hassan also works for this company, and so I just want to acknowledge that obviously everyone knows Amin, in fact has the darkest incognito browsing history at any of anyone I. Metal Army.

[Stugotz]

Wake me up when Harvard does something of note.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you, Amin. We don't need you anymore talking about these things.

[Amin Elhassan]

This victory lap was presented by peloton. Find your push. Find your power with Peloton Pablo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Before you get out of here. Pablo Torre finds out is a rapidly ascending podcast. It is getting more and more popular all the time. What do you have that we should be listening to?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, I think today's episode is our best episode possibly that we've done to date.

[Mike Ryan]

I literally just made a Mario Crystal Ball interview request.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. So literally. Can we stop, please? Please stop that. Please stop. It's just.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go ahead, Pablo, you were saying? No, Amin. Touching the nipple of a photographed Mario Crystal ball is what we should be doing for the audio audience. Yes. Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Instead, while I'm over here sending a correspondent to a supermax prison in Texas to investigate what fantasy football is like among death row inmates. So this is a Real story, I don't want to spoil it. It is about, yes, capital punishment as a system, but it's also about how one actually does continue to watch sports. Love sports. Talk trash about your favorite teams, root for the Dallas Cowboys when there may not always be a next year. So, Dan, I think it's honestly the best thing we've done so far. And briefly, briefly. It started because it turned out there was a database online of the last words of death row inmates in the state of Texas. And a disturbing number of them, their last words were, how about them Cowboys? And so we decided to figure out, to find out why it is that that is so. And how one actually does continue to watch the Dallas Cowboys on death row in America. And I genuinely and unironically encourage you to see what we reported. I think it'll change a lot of your minds.

[Dan Le Batard]

Give me a clip, Louis, please, from Pablo Torre. Finds out that Pablo was supposed to throw it too, but forgot because he was too busy smell his own farts. How did you guys even draft players though? Or how do you. Is it all through the window? Mostly it was week to week. So depending on the matchups, you would make a new lineup. You understand? Okay, you know, Tom Brady's playing whoever.

[Stugotz]

So you're starting Tom Brady.

[Dan Le Batard]

And if it's a two quarterback league, you know, whoever. Whoever else it might be, you know, Aaron Rodgers, right? So there's a deadline. You gotta turn him in by, you know, Friday at noon, we would slide the stuff out from the cells to the day rooms, and then those guys would get the stuff and give it to another day room, make his way out there with what we call a fishing line. And it's essentially like a long string that he'll slide to the day room and he pull him back in.

[Amin Elhassan]

I have never felt worse about forgetting to check my lineup. That is what it takes to play fantasy football on death row, right? And just enjoying this conversation, one fantasy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Football player to another, and you sort.

[Stugotz]

Of get lost in.

[Dan Le Batard]

You forget where you are.

[Mike Ryan]

And then there's this gut punch.

[Dan Le Batard]

But what.

[Mike Ryan]

What happened to your league?

[Dan Le Batard]

Slowly but surely, the guys that have. The guys that played, they've just been pushed out of existence. They've been executed, they're gone. You know, and that's just a reality of being on death row. That's a reality of being sentenced to death. So overproduced with the music, the slow music. What, are you kidding me? The death row inmate started dying. What?

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. Production value. I know, is a horrifying concept, that music to the Scorsese in Miami. Right? We actually. We actually. We actually, you know, put thought and effort into how we tell stories as opposed to actually just having a mean rub a nipple.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Did anyone have the thought, like, hey, this might be too sad? And it seems like we're celebrating murderers.

[Dan Le Batard]

We are decidedly not the liberal Joe Rogan.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, we're fat shaming Mario and we're.

[Stugotz]

Making fun of death row inmates.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not liberal.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think Mario looks great, by the way. I would like to advise and encourage you all. Go to freecharlesflores.com realize why the innocence Project took on his case, and realize that somewhere at this company, someone who's doing actual work, as opposed to sitting at a table and masturbating. Literally and figuratively.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, you were just music for an innocent person on the death row.

[Dan Le Batard]

Literally.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I get that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. It didn't need the music. It was overproduced. And you guys.

[Amin Elhassan]

You guys have lost the ability.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was saying something dramatic. I get it. He's on death row and the people around him die. The music doesn't make it any different. It's just. Yes, people die on death row. That's kind of why it's called Death Row.

[Amin Elhassan]

Stop excusing your own production laziness and pretending that that's a decision. You guys work smart.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not hard work smart.

[Amin Elhassan]

Not hard work at all. You guys are like, that's too much work in that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jeremy produced a song that he wrote lyrics to 10 minutes into a segment yesterday. Produced a fresh song, the final night gown. You got people, you got 10 people that were paying God knows how much to put some syrupy music behind Death row. Guy dies on death row.

[Amin Elhassan]

We're trying to make things that people who don't like what is on screen with me, like, naturally, this is not their thing to know that we're actually making some of the best work in sports media. And sometimes, sometimes that involves a thing called scoring.

[Dan Le Batard]

Get him out of here.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's a little thing called scoring, you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Know, just get him out.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like we score Edward R. Murrow Awards, you know, But I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what I'm doing.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's award winning.

[Stugotz]

All the awards.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's all I got.

[Mike Ryan]

But if the end of the story is, yeah, well, he killed 17 people.

[Amin Elhassan]

I go like, that's not the story. No, please tell me. Absolutely not the story, please.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you start CD Lamb? Guy who killed 17 people. People. Pablo Torre finds out. You guys sound award winning Pablo Tori finds out where. If you want overproduced music, that's how you produce. That's underproduced right there. It's the final night gown.

[Amin Elhassan]

You guys are odious.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Stugotz]

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