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Dan LeBatard
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Mike Ryan
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Mike Ryan
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Chris Cody
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Lucy Rhodine
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Lucy Rhodine
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Jeremy
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Chris Cody
This is the Dan Lebanon show.
Mike Ryan
Whoa.
Lucy Rhodine
Lucy's mine. Hey, Dan, it's your favorite Rodine, Lucy's dad.
Chris Cody
We're here in Iowa. Go Hawks. Your favorite employee, Rhodes is here. And we're gonna do a handshake.
Lucy Rhodine
We're gonna do a handshake.
Mike Ryan
Look at this, Dan. One, two, three. There you go.
Lucy Rhodine
Because we're oxygen. Go Hawks.
Chris Cody
Here we are.
Mike Ryan
Fight, fight, fight for Iowa.
Chris Cody
My name is Steve. Like the Minecraft guy. We're at Iowa Pinnick Stadium.
Mike Ryan
Iconic how would you describe the Iowa game day experience? I would say electric. Yes. This is woozy, everybody.
Chris Cody
Woozy. You cannot get any better than this. It's gotta be the next thing.
Lucy Rhodine
Honestly, not so bad. We came out expecting corn, and it looks pretty good from our perspective. They've just been giving us we don't deserve. You know, we're just from Penn State, doing our best.
Mike Ryan
The tailgating's good and the drinking is good.
Jack Shit
Last time I came here, it was tense, right?
Lucy Rhodine
Because we were both in the top 10.
Chris Cody
But now it's great. Now it's great.
Mike Ryan
What do we all have to lose?
Chris Cody
You know, being an Iowa fan, though.
Jack Shit
It'S all about the unexpected.
Chris Cody
And not too long ago, we were.
Jack Shit
Just rushing the field after we beat Penn State date.
Mike Ryan
So that was like five years ago. That was actually a really long time ago.
Chris Cody
Oh, it's awesome.
Jack Shit
I love coming down here.
Chris Cody
I come down here a couple times a year, and I just.
Jack Shit
I really love it.
Chris Cody
It's like a family. It was actually my first Iowa game. I'm a Nebraska fan. Living.
Mike Ryan
Okay, okay, enough of that. We saw the game last night. You probably don't want to speak on camera.
Chris Cody
Have you seen the corn machine over there? Pan, pan, pan. Wow, wow, wow. That is what America is built on. America needs farmers.
Mike Ryan
Do you ever wish Iowa could score more points? Obviously. But, you know, we're just kind of used to it. You can't have high expectations. Kind of just feels like a tradition to not score that many points. How did you get your tickets for the game today? Oh, the game time app. Did you use a code?
Chris Cody
Code Lucy at checkout?
Mike Ryan
Hell, yeah. $20 off your first order term supply. This hat is so sweaty. So we are here at the best tailgate in Iowa City. It's called Hawks to go. What makes not hot to go? Like Chapel Roan? That's different. They did this before Chapel Roan. But what makes this tailgate so special is they sell shots. They do a special one for the opposing team, which this week it's Penn State. And then the home team, they'll sell you the shots. You take it on a fun little shot Ski, you get the fun tailgating experience, and then all that money goes back to the University of Iowa Children's Hospital.
Chris Cody
Everything we do here is about the kids. 37 years ago, my brother's son, my nephew, had a no soft spot. He was saved by the University of Iowa hospitals. My brother and I drink a lot and we looked at each other. I think God was involved. And we, like, let's do shots for the kids.
Mike Ryan
I you notice they've been doing this for over a decade now. They have donated over $400,000 to the Stead Family Children's Hospital, which, like, what is better than getting drunk, watching football and helping the kids? Winning football is up there, but it's not as good as that. It's like right under it. This is orange juice.
Chris Cody
Are you ready for this?
Lucy Rhodine
I am.
Mike Ryan
Me too.
Lucy Rhodine
Go, Lucy.
Chris Cody
I'm wearing blue on purpose. Unfortunately, I'm a Penn State fan. We're going to see what happens. We're down our head coach. We're down to starting quarterback. All we want is a great game.
Mike Ryan
What was your immediate reaction when you fired James Franklin?
Lucy Rhodine
Eight years too late. Should have been fired when he ran Trace McSorley on 4th and 5 at Ohio State. Dumbass. It's about goddamn time.
Jack Shit
And then firing their head coach only.
Mike Ryan
Gives us a better chance to win. So I think it's going to be a good game.
Jack Shit
Penn State should stay coachless and just give up on their football program.
Mike Ryan
Call it. And invest all the money into wrestling.
Jack Shit
They should defund their wrestling program. Also, they can invest all their nil money into Iowa sports.
Chris Cody
What they should do.
Mike Ryan
So. So Penn State should just give all their money to Iowa just cause it's nice.
Lucy Rhodine
Yes.
Mike Ryan
Your favorite person on the Le Batard Show.
Chris Cody
Oh, Lucy Rhodine. Are you kidding me?
Jack Shit
I'm required to say it, but it is Lucy.
Lucy Rhodine
I am gonna miss Billy Gill.
Mike Ryan
So we love you, Billy. Probably Lucy's dad. As a Nebraska fan, do you look at Penn State firing James Franklin and be like, oh, no, you can't do that. We've been there before. We've been through a lot of coaches.
Jack Shit
Obviously, but I don't think it's gonna be a big deal.
Mike Ryan
Do you think Matt Rule is gonna take the Penn State job?
Jack Shit
I don't even know if they'll want him.
Lucy Rhodine
Yo, give me Joe Brady. We want young, hot sex appeal.
Jack Shit
I don't know.
Mike Ryan
Bill Belichick. He might be the move.
Chris Cody
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike Ryan
I heard he's looking for a job.
Jack Shit
I guess the guy at Iowa State's pretty good.
Mike Ryan
Oh, yeah, Matt Campbell. We'd be happy if you took him. How would you Describe the last three weeks of Penn State football?
Lucy Rhodine
Basically, 30 years of Penn State football. Train wreck, disaster, Armageddon, Hiroshima.
Mike Ryan
Unnatural disaster is the right way to put it.
Jack Shit
I know I'm a Nebraska fan, but.
Chris Cody
I'm in Iowa today, so.
Jack Shit
Go Hawks.
Mike Ryan
And I was so rude to him this whole time. Too. I was not nice at all.
Chris Cody
It's going to be a great game. Signing off on the dan Lebanon Show.
Mike Ryan
October 18, 2025 will go down in history for the LeBatard Show. This is the first time in the so many times that I have made us go to Iowa football games that we have won. This has never happened before for us. Rose has never heard the Hawkeye Victory Polka until today. Dan, this is the best. This is why we do it. For these beautiful moments where you beat a terrible 10 Penn State team very close and you keep it feisty, but it's for the entertainment and the joy of a victory. I love this place so much. I hope you guys got to see why I love it today. Go Hawks. Penn State. Maybe you'll hire somebody cool, you know, maybe like Matt Rule. So cool. Only lost by like 30 to Minnesota. Whatever. Go Hawks.
Lucy Rhodine
It is the return of Iowa. Some things are a bit upside down in college football. Vanderbilt is 6 and 1 for the first time since 1950. They defeated two top 10 teams in the past 12 months. Georgia Tech is 7 and oh, for the first time since 1966. Indiana's got the highest ranking it's ever had. And Lucy is grifting the entire Meadowlark media by going back and forth to Iowa every couple of weeks and is a bigger star in Iowa than she's ever been. I can't even imagine how much fun it is to tailgate with Iowa now that she returns home again and again and this time to great victory and glory. This was the best weekend you've had in a while, correct?
Mike Ryan
We had so much fun. This is always one of our favorite places to go to. And I know that it's, like, selfish that we go, but I always think the content is pretty good. And we actually got some bonus content out of this weekend. Every week that we are on the road, Rose is begging people to let them throw the football with her. And usually the answer is no. But we got a yes this weekend and we have footage from that if you all want to see it.
Lucy Rhodine
Oh, that would be wonderful. Rose does Rose the ball and did.
Chris Cody
She get a baby?
Lucy Rhodine
Oh, my God. She threw it.
Mike Ryan
She did it.
Jack Shit
A baby heart.
Lucy Rhodine
Rose, love of God.
Chris Cody
Imagine someone hits your baby with a football and you turn back and you see Rose's get up. You're like, is she wearing a helmet because she has her headphones forward. What?
Jeremy
You never.
Lucy Rhodine
You never let her throw that football because she's got bad judgment. Correct. No one wants to throw the football with her because she can't be trusted to throw it correctly.
Mike Ryan
Well, usually it's like 12 year old boys who are throwing the football and then Rose comes up, she's like, can I throw it? And they're very overwhelmed by her. But this time they said yes. And we like were screaming, we were like, rose, there is a baby there. Please do not hit Lucy.
Lucy Rhodine
What I don't understand and I don't know why I would make you the governor of her, but the general radius of distance we're talking about there. There is only one place there where a football cannot be thrown. It was the one baby cart within a 10 mile radius of where she could have thrown the football.
Chris Cody
Baby cart. Like a farm machine. One more time, can we see this? Because Lucy, I would like to ask you a question here. I can't make out who the intended receiver is.
Mike Ryan
No, we have no clue. I don't think she was throwing it to anybody. Like I really don't know who it was. If we turn the audio on that you can hear people yelling don't hit the baby. Please don't hit the baby. And then she immediately hit the baby.
Lucy Rhodine
So she ignored. Don't hit the baby. Oh for the love of God. And then, oh, Lucy, I cannot be sending you in public with these people who, who do these things like this. You can't throw a football at a stroller. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Can you throw a football at a.
Chris Cody
Stroller or baby cart? Baby cart.
Mike Ryan
And what's crazy is like she didn't even apologize. She just like ran away.
Chris Cody
Ran away looking all sorts of crazy. I mean that was a rambunctious group over at Iowa. It's not every weekend that you go over there and vibes are that good when they're playing Penn State.
Mike Ryan
It's look like this game was so weird because like Iowa fans still view it as a really big game because it's like a really talented Penn State team and Iowa has a quarterback that runs. That's never ever happened before. So these people were losing. Also Iowa to end the second half had like the dumbest special teams play I've ever seen where they were going for like a 70 yard field goal. It got blocked and Penn State scored based off of that. It was devastating. And Kirk Ferenc cried in his press conference about it. Like he literally shed tears. He was crying.
Chris Cody
I'll indulge you with one more Iowa question. They are finding their form. They have an upcoming date with Oregon. I like what I see from Iowa. This offense Is certainly over the last few years, the one that you can trust the most. They're getting better as the year goes up.
Lucy Rhodine
Rose didn't look crazy at all.
Mike Ryan
No, she was. She was totally normal. Everything was cool. Yeah, this is the best, like, Iowa has looked offensively in, you know, five years or so. It's been a really, really long time. Mark Ranowski, like, I know he only had, I think, like, 60 passing yards on the night, but he was running really well. Iowa, obviously, the defense is good. Special teams is great. They're sort of figuring out their identity right now. Mark really struggled to start off the season, but it seems like they're figuring stuff out. Kinnick is a very difficult place to play if you're a top five team. Like, that's kind of a thing that has sort of fallen away the last few years. But it used be like a given if you were a top five team and you went into Iowa, you were going to lose. So, like, I would not be surprised to see if they beat Oregon. Playoff hopes aren't dead, but I also am not buying into that. I want to playoff.
Lucy Rhodine
I want to cover a couple of different things here happening with Billy Napier and Mike Norvell in the market, because Norvell started 12:16 at Florida State, then they won 19 straight. Right. And you could almost do whatever you want if you're going to win 19 straight. But then the snub happens. The quarterback gets hurt because. Or the snub happens because the quarterback gets hurt. And now they're 5 and 15, and it would cost $100 million to get him out. So where are you on all these guys? Billy Napier, Luke Fickle, Hugh Freeze, and Norvell, who doesn't appear to be fired because Florida State can't. Can't afford to eat the money.
Chris Cody
There was a great little news bit. I think it was Warchant that put it out there. That said, Norvell announced to his team that he was indeed staying for the rest of the season, and it was met with deafening silence.
Mike Ryan
That is so funny. So with Billy Napier, obviously, this was a decision that we all knew was going to happen. It was just sort of the timeline of when. I think it's a direct result of James Franklin because they fired him after a win over Mississippi State, A good Mississippi State team. It just sort of felt like, okay, Florida probably assumed that after this season, that would be the top job in the market. And now I don't necessarily know if that's the case. I kind of think Penn State is a better Job. And so to go and see. All right, now we're going to have to compete for pen with Penn State for the guys we want or maybe we want James Franklin, who really knows. I felt like that was sort of the catalyst of why Billy Napier was fired this week rather than, you know, a few weeks from now when the season was over. Also, maybe they were like, we really don't want him to give him a chance to do what he did last year and win a couple games. And now we're stuck with him.
Lucy Rhodine
Mike, why. Forgive me for a second. Why are you making faces at Penn State being a good job?
Chris Cody
I don't think so. Just because of what I understand. It was kind of diluted by the success that James Franklin had over there. But there's a lot of Joe Paw as innocent people over in Penn State. Like, they're, they're. Their fan base is pretty crazy. The standards seem to be in arrested development. And yeah, the things that surround Happy Valley are tricky to say the least.
Mike Ryan
I would like agree with that. But also I'm like, okay, well, your fan base in Florida all lives in Florida, so they're also crazy, just in a different way, perhaps even a scarier way. Who really knows? I just think, like, resources wise, Penn State has a bunch that they can, like, work with. And I do think Florida does as well. But Penn State, you probably feel a comfortable about job security even though you know that, okay, James Franklin was fired after three bad weeks. He was there for, you know, ten plus years before that. And it feels like. I don't necessarily know if I agree with this, but I think people would think that the Big Ten is probably easier to compete in.
Chris Cody
So if you're Marcus Freeman, let's say you look at both destinations because both of these schools are interested in Marcus Freeman. What do you decide? Do you go to a better talent base in Florida or do you stay in that general region?
Lucy Rhodine
Are you now reporting this exclusively?
Chris Cody
I'm not reporting it exclusively. Like, there's a lot of people that are plugged in that know this and they share information. I'm not gonna. But I am say revealing it to you for the first time, such as.
Lucy Rhodine
It'S a new time. When you tell me the Notre Dame, when you tell me the successful Notre Dame coach can be bought by Florida. We're in a new time and how we're gonna be doing these things.
Chris Cody
Marcus Freeman was in the College Football Playoff and it was known that he was interested in going to the pros. There were programs like Florida who back Channeled engaged interest. That's why his name keeps popping up in these things.
Mike Ryan
I kind of think this one's like a personal preference. Weird enough, like, Marcus Freeman, I could see him. I don't think he leaves Notre Dame. And I'm not just saying that because Jess is one of my closest friends. Like, I really don't think he does. But if he were choosing between the two, I feel like just that sort of the style of football at Penn State aligns more with what he's doing. Like, I really think it's just like a. Like a personal decision. I'm not quite familiar with either of their nil standings, but I personally think Penn State's a better job. But I'm also like Big Ten bias, so. But that's why I think Billy Napier was fired, specifically because that is now your compet. Before it was like Virginia Tech and Oklahoma State and potentially Auburn, which, by the way, something that I think is so, so funny this weekend was Auburn lost in double overtime against Mizzou. And Hugh Freeze was like, you know, it'd be really nice if the ad came out and said they were going to keep me. You know, it would be cool if they said they support me and then they didn't do it. Hey, friends.
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Dan LeBatard
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Chris Cody
Howdy listeners. It's Mike Ryan and Chris Cody. Hey everyone. Hey, Chris. We love hanging out so much. You were at my birthday the other day.
Lucy Rhodine
You're old.
Chris Cody
You know what I saw in your hand?
Lucy Rhodine
What?
Chris Cody
A can of Miller. Whether it's a can, whether it's a bottle, a draft pour of Miller Lite. The draft pour. You see that beautiful iconic color right away.
Jack Shit
The ice coldness to it.
Chris Cody
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Jack Shit
I see coldness.
Lucy Rhodine
Don LeBatard. I want to talk to Hannah the astrophysicist and I want to make bets with him.
Mike Ryan
He's so smart.
Lucy Rhodine
I want to know. No, See, this is what I want to do with our show. No, not no. Don't let Billy's team of dumb demons spew all over the bottom of this company and piss all over the show.
Chris Cody
No stugats.
Dan LeBatard
Ian broke down everyone that was drafted on the offensive line except centers because the jets didn't need one.
Lucy Rhodine
Let's have Ian go against the astrophysicist head to head. And let's see, let's put some money on it. You're informed, idiot. Or Lucy's actually smart person who doesn't know anything, but at least we're going to choose an astrophysicist and not Taylor's roommate who's not named Ian.
Chris Cody
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Lucy Rhodine
You didn't mention even. We didn't get to Luke Fickle, did we? I mean, you been saying for weeks he's going to be fired.
Mike Ryan
So he got another sort of like, moment of support this weekend where their ad came out and they were like, we, we support Lou Fickle. We believe in Wisconsin football. We're going to invest money into Wisconsin football, which is not something that Wisconsin has done and it's not something they've done for a long time. So I don't necessarily know how much I believe it, but they were shut out for the second time in a row this week against Ohio State. It's like, terrible times there. And I don't personally understand why they're sticking with Luke Fickle. Maybe it's because they look at this market now and you're like, okay, we're competing with Penn State and Florida and Virginia Tech and whatnot. But, like, it's clearly not working at all. That is a truly terrible football team. And Wisconsin fans are deeply unhappy for a lot of reasons. But the big one is that there's like a Wisconsin based, like, gas dealership there that they give you discounts via how much, like, Wisconsin scores and they haven't scored it. Also, all their gas is full price. Same thing with Culver's. Get any free food from golfers.
Chris Cody
Why isn't cheese curds. Why isn't this working out for Luke Fickle in Wisconsin? Because, yeah, he, he appears to be out the door. He proved at Cincinnati there, there's something to him. He has experience in the Big Ten. I'm surprised that the job is too big for him.
Mike Ryan
It wasn't even. The job is too big for him. Luke Fickle. Wisconsin was a job that did not need an overhaul. It just needed tuning up. Like, Wisconsin's identity has always been set. Wisconsin is. You run the ball. You have beefy, like, you know, Midwest offensive lineman. You have a strong defense. You need a serviceable, serviceable quarterback and nothing else. Luke Fickle came in even though they had a system that was working, it just wasn't, like, to its peak because Paul Crist never was as low as Luke Fickle is. And he decided, I'm going to hire Phil Longo to be my offensive coordinator off the jump. Okay? Bold move. That didn't work out at all. Completely like deranged. The entire identity of Wisconsin football. He said, we're going to do the air raid here. Where are you going to get the talent for that in Wisconsin? You're not going to do that. So it went so poorly. The defense suffered because of it, the offense suffered because of it. Their entire identity is gone. And so now he was like, okay, I'm going to. I'm going to redo it. I'm going to start over. I went and got the offensive coordinator from Kansas, but it's too late because you've already lost all that talent that would work with the original Wisconsin identity, which is the only way you can win there. And instead you went and got a bunch of talent for a program, for a system that's just not going to work at your school. And in the meantime, Brett Bielema, he went and he got all those guys that you were going to have at Wisconsin. And now Illinois is what they are. It was just like liter so dumb that I could not, I couldn't believe it when I was saying it.
Lucy Rhodine
It was so silly. I have to salute that analysis is the best that you will hear on Wisconsin football anywhere. For this particular reason, what she is saying that Wisconsin can only win and they'll win nine games a year and never any of the meaningful ones. But the only way they will do it if it's grass fed, if it's. If it's corn Husker type of beef that it is fed and it's going to win by punching you in the face. And we can't get athletes who do.
Chris Cody
Anything and it makes sense that their defense suffers because complimentary. Dano. Lucy, I have to apologize to you. Last week I trotted out the take that people don't like Carson Beck. Maybe because he's not handsome, I don't know. But it's because he occasionally throws four interceptions and then displays bad leadership post game. What do you make of that upset? Like I know there are some people that are doom and gloom. I never thought that there was an undefeated team in this nation, let alone Miami. I always thought that they were good for a dumb loss. And Louisville very quietly over the last two years just flatly doesn't lose games by more than one score. That is a well coached team. Jeff Braum has showed he can upset teams.
Mike Ryan
Look, I, you're. You're going to love my answer to this because I don't think too much of it because we've all been Jeff Braum before. This has happened to me personally many times. Like he always does this. He is Very sneaky in the way that every year it feels like he just pulls something out of his bag and he's able to beat a really good team. Like Jeff Brown, I think, is one of the most underrated coaches in college football. Like, they have a strict identity. They knew who they are. They. He's such a good fit for that Louisville program. Yeah, Carson Beck had a rough game. I feel like sort of the thing with Carson back is you saw a little bit against Louisville the. What you saw Georgia last year where when he is good, he is really, really good. But the second he, like, flounders a little bit, it's all or nothing with him. Like, like, I don't know if he casually just has like an okay game. It's either like a great one or he's going to throw four interceptions. But I'm not too worried about it because, like, that is a good Louisville team. Like, I'm not. I don't think that's a bad loss by any means. And Jeff Rom just tends to do that. Yeah, the post game presser, maybe not the best move. Maybe not a great idea. Maybe I would have just kept that one to myself. I think what's interesting now is that Miami doesn't control their own destiny to the ACC championship. They need Georgia Tech or Virginia to lose to make it to Charlotte, which is just like, kind of crazy to be in that position with a roster this good with the best team Miami's had in a very long time.
Lucy Rhodine
Well, I want to get inside, okay. When we make these students or young people professionals, I want to get inside of whatever it is Carson Beck has been living for the last three years. And just ask you, Lucy, as someone who was on the Georgia sideline predicting his interceptions last year, expecting his interceptions last year, when someone of this age is in a game where it is clear Brahm is outclassing Miami everywhere, even though he does not have the athletes that Miami has. And also the game plan is clearly, nope, there will be no running in this game, friend. It's all you. You want to throw way downfield. Let's see, Beck, what you got? It's going to be all you, plenty of pass protection. What do you have back? Like, you're telling me that that's a quarterback who shrinks there?
Mike Ryan
I mean, yeah, he's done that before. I think that was sort of the issue at Georgia is like. And I also think it's important to include the context of last year. Miami had a quarterback who could, you know, do that in that moment. So it's something you've been used to that. Course the back is obviously not of Cam Ward's caliber and just like won't be. But yeah, I think it was just like that was the first time they like really had him in hell and he just kind of fell apart and it's something he's done before. I don't think it's something that's happen a ton again, but it's also something worth noting. We're like, okay, it's good that you got this under your belt because you're going to play teams a lot tougher than Louisville going forward. I think Mike, my real issue with Carson Beck was just like, hey, you lost a game, it happens. You, you got to be a little bit smarter in the post game press conference because like Mike is right in the sense that, you know, it is a little bit more difficult with him just because the reputation he has at Georgia and sort of that people don't like him. Like you got to be a lot smarter about the stuff you're saying.
Chris Cody
Yeah, they feel like Beck and his camp feel like they slaughtered his reputation with how talkative they were and how the narrative was when Gunner Stockton took over is like this is the team's guy and he felt it was unfair because he played while he was hurt. Encouraged by the training staff to go out there and play while he was hurt. He felt like he gave it all for his team and it wasn't reciprocated. I will say though, I totally agree. He's got to be better in the post game. That felt a lot like the guy they were telling me about. Now I know from talking to his camera this offseason was very difficult for him. It was a big transition for a young man and he rediscovered his passion for the game and he came out more mature. He's going to need to. Teams are going to decide to take the run game away from Miami, especially if they have a conservative run game which is just committed to the A gap. Now they did that against FSU and he torched him. The thing about FSU was he wasn't down 140 at the time and being in predictable passing situation. So Miami needs to clean things up up to make sure that the running game can stay on us.
Jack Shit
But Mike, he had such a great fall camp. Better than Cam Ward.
Chris Cody
He did. You want to throw that in my face like you know Jack. See, that's another one. You know Jack Dano. You don't know Jack. No, not, not and not by a little in fall camp.
Jack Shit
By A lot pins to not know Jack Lucy does a does a one loss Miami team that does even appear in the ACC championship game. Do they definitely make oh this is.
Lucy Rhodine
Begging and I won't have you do it. This is begging and I won't have you do it. It's disgusting.
Mike Ryan
What you guys theoretically not possible so. Or I guess no yeah it is. If Virginia and Georgia Tech finish the season undefeated and Miami beats at SMU but they still UV or UVA and Georgia Tech undefeated then they won't make the ACC championship game. Any team that only has one loss that's in the Power 4 is going to make the playoffs. Like that's just going to happen. Especially because like I test Miami as a very good football team. Like I, I think it would take another like kind of like really stupid dumb loss which I actually don't think that Louisville loss was stupid. But we all know. No but they're the concern with Miami.
Lucy Rhodine
That that happens to me. This one was just so obvious in terms of how it is that Beck must have felt alone out there. Oh I'm being out coached everywhere. They're begging me to throw the football. They're not allowing us to run even though oh the advantage we have in this game. The biggest surprise in that game is why wasn't Miami was couldn't run. Brom wasn't going to let him run. He was going to try and cover those receivers with that secondary and did they made three great interceptions.
Chris Cody
Yeah, they made unbelievable plays. I am curious if Miami does drop the other one. We know the other dumb one and let's say it's just like last year. Let's buy one score.
Lucy Rhodine
It could be Virginia, it could be Pittsburgh. It can be anywhere.
Chris Cody
Well it could be Virginia Tech. They don't play Virginia which is another weird quirk.
Jack Shit
Who's the one that you're talking about?
Chris Cody
The ACC had this situation last year and they're trying to address it by adding an additional conference game. But yeah, you have Georgia Tech as Lucy mentioned you had the weird, weird thing with Virginia where they lost to an ACC team but are undefeated in the ACC conference because it was a non conference game because the teams decided they wanted to keep playing. It's so funny where Miami is. Where Miami is aided is that unlike last year they're non conference reference wins appear to be really good. They have the USF when they have the the Notre Dame win based on form Notre Dame looks like a top five team all of a sudden and we know the committee likes good losses right now Presently, Louisville's ranked in the team. What if Miami just says their Louisville.
Jack Shit
Loss is not an ACC game?
Lucy Rhodine
They should Lucy. Why is that so funny?
Mike Ryan
Because it's just like ACC is so stupid. They're so dumb. What do you mean? Like Miami truly would be in a great spot if that game had counted because Virginia lost, but it did it for for no reason. They were like, yeah, we're just gonna play each other, but it's non conference.
Lucy Rhodine
What?
Mike Ryan
Okay, sure. That is so acc. I love this silly little conference. They're so silly.
Chris Cody
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Lucy Rhodine
Don LeBatard.
Mike Ryan
He seems like a not nice guy, and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him and I hope he has the day he deserves.
Lucy Rhodine
Oh, wow.
Chris Cody
Stugats.
Lucy Rhodine
I hope he has the day he deserves.
Mike Ryan
That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go f yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve.
Lucy Rhodine
It's a great kind. It's a great kind. Insult. Yes. It's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out.
Chris Cody
That's a less Southern.
Mike Ryan
Bless your heart.
Chris Cody
This is the Dan lebatar show with the stugats.
Lucy Rhodine
You and Zaslo are gonna be in the same place this Saturday. Have either of done Baton Rouge at night? Because it's insane.
Jack Shit
I have not.
Lucy Rhodine
It's totally crazy. Have you been. Lucy, have you done this before?
Mike Ryan
This is one of my favorite spots. So I'm very, very excited. Even though that this could be a Brian Kelly gets fired game, which actually I think is going to make it way more fun. I'm so excited. I love LSU fans. They are nuts.
Jack Shit
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I went last year. It was a day game. Terrible game. They played ucla. Get the hell out of here. But this game, night game, everyone tells me Death Valley at night. Death Valley.
Chris Cody
Okay, what do you got? I'm going to be there. It's going to be pretty epic. Texas A M actually.
Mike Ryan
So cool.
Chris Cody
Texas A and M is really good. But they're playing in a conference which again, they're doing this count in the conference game. It does, but I do think the conference is overrated because it's being judged against its reputation from years past. And I think it's a type of conference where Texas A and M can lose to lsu, especially a nighttime game in that stadium. I don't understand why Tennessee is ranked ahead of the teams that they're ranked. They don't have a good win. Their best win is against Mississippi State. But again, good losses inside that conference.
Mike Ryan
I think we all need to take a moment to just reflect on the fact that Vanderbilt beat LSU this weekend and did not storm the field.
Lucy Rhodine
Oh, I'm going to say it again. Vanderbilt. This is one of the things that gets James Franklin and Billy Napier fired. Vanderbilt is 61 for the first time since 1950, and they've now defeated two top 10 teams in the last 12 months. Like, they can play with Alabama. Everyone can see that they can play with Alabama.
Chris Cody
They hung in that game. The final score isn't reflective of what a battle that game was. However, there is some fake news to this because I saw a report that said Vanderbilt, reputed to be a very intelligent school, very expensive school, they waited till LSU, till LSU's personnel and players left the field, so they would not be subject to the sec. Fine. And then they went on the field.
Lucy Rhodine
We have Lucy's serious program. Lucy's Internet minute. But, Jeremy, any last thoughts as Mike sort of hogged everything here with, um, talk in a way that didn't allow a lot of room for objection?
Jack Shit
I mean, my name is Jack Shit. Related to the Shit family, as exemplified here by my. Hello, my name is Jack Shit.
Lucy Rhodine
I think Mike.
Jack Shit
Tag Mike. I don't know, man.
Chris Cody
Hi, mister. How are you gonna tell me I.
Jack Shit
Don'T know jack shit?
Chris Cody
You don't know Jack shit.
Jack Shit
You thought Carson Beck was better than.
Chris Cody
Cam Ward in Paul camp. Yeah.
Jack Shit
Also a better. He was right at the time.
Chris Cody
I wasn't.
Jack Shit
He was right at the time.
Chris Cody
You were right at the time. Still right. Better. Fall camp. Were you at fall camp? I didn't see you there, Mr. Shit.
Lucy Rhodine
Again with the Mr. Jack shit.
Chris Cody
I was looking around for Mr. Shit. I didn't see him.
Lucy Rhodine
He hit me yesterday with some alarm. Bums don't do anything for the program. That's what he hit. Did you hear? He's throwing veiled shots all over the place? No, he was looking right at me.
Jack Shit
Okay.
Lucy Rhodine
He was looking right at me and. And touting his own. His own.
Chris Cody
Oh, I know what that means. Oh, well, time to get in it.
Jack Shit
It's Lucy's Internet minute.
Mike Ryan
Yay. That's so great. Kim Kardashian went on the Call Her Daddy podcast this weekend, which I'm actually not really a big fan of. That Podcast. We can talk about that later. But she had the most Lucille Bluth moment ever where Alex Cooper, the host, asked her how much money she spent on makeup a year on glam. And she was like, I don't know. I don't really know the price of things. Like, I'd love to figure out how much milk carton cost. Oh, girl, you could just go to the store also. Milk carton. She's had kind of a weird week. They released, like, a new line of skims which include a bush thong, which is just hair on the outside of the thong. She did an interview with a. Like a ski mask or. It's not a ski mask, but, like, I don't know what to call it, but something completely over her face. Yeah, like, not even a veil, though. It was real creepy. Yeah. She's having a weird week online. But she doesn't know how much milk costs, which, like, I didn't think she did, but I probably would have just kept that to myself.
Dan LeBatard
How much are baby carts more expensive than you think?
Chris Cody
Much more, Dan. Depends on the taste. But, you know, wives as.
Jack Shit
Oh, I know what they like.
Chris Cody
You know who also loves that?
Dan LeBatard
Babies.
Jack Shit
It's a banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?
Lucy Rhodine
How much is a baby heart on the black market?
Chris Cody
You don't want to know. Don't ask that question ever again. Do not ever ask that question. Never, never ask that question. Did you think that I respect you? Don't ask that question again. Why'd you think that was a good question? Ask the Democrats.
Lucy Rhodine
Lucy, thank you for. For being on with us. We'll talk to you next week. Jeremy is. Is mad about the, um, talk. And he's also mad because we're not talking enough baseball. I do not blame him. There was a game seven last night. Mike doesn't want to talk about Baker Mayfield. All of a sudden he's missing high.
Chris Cody
You know, so let's just get to that by. No. I watched the entire baseball game multi view Dan. And this. This baseball game was incredible.
Jack Shit
It was good.
Chris Cody
I'm devastated.
Lucy Rhodine
The greatest Mariners season of this century dies. Dies on the doorstep. Because. Because Toronto clubs the baseball. But also. God almighty, is Toronto going to have any chance. They. They really, really hit. Vladimir Guerrero hits everything hard. Doesn't strike out and hits everything hard. But they do they have any chance against four Aces?
Jack Shit
I mean, they have a chance like the Mariners pitching was really good throughout that.
Lucy Rhodine
Cody has to walk to Seattle.
Chris Cody
Excuse me?
Lucy Rhodine
Cody has to walk to Seattle. He loses that bet. Sorry about that.
Chris Cody
We've developed a plan, though. I'm glad you mentioned that, because we do need to close this throw.
Jack Shit
Remember, he's old.
Chris Cody
He's old and he has bad knee and he's got a trick knee. We didn't say where he's walking from when he gets to Seattle, so we're gonna find a neighboring town.
Lucy Rhodine
Okay.
Chris Cody
We fly him out. We are committed to. Thank you.
Lucy Rhodine
Thank you.
Chris Cody
You can take this to the bank.
Lucy Rhodine
Thank you, Greg.
Chris Cody
Cody.
Lucy Rhodine
Yes.
Chris Cody
As long as I have air in my lungs. All right, we'll be walking to Seattle. He lost the bet just from a nearby town.
Jack Shit
Why would he think a team can't come back from 2 knots?
Mike Ryan
I don't understand.
Jack Shit
Why would you be so confident that a team cannot overcome two games to none, let alone in baseball? Probably because he had not watched either of those teams play the entire season until those two games. And if you only watch those two games, it seemed like there was a giant disparity between the talent levels. And then he offered up the thing he would do if it happens. No one said, hey, what will you do now? Walk to Seattle?
Lucy Rhodine
I. I really do love this World Series. The World's World Series. Okay. Because Canada doesn't get to these things and they're can't. This team is like it's got a Major League Baseball chromosome, because more than taking descendants, we haven't seen Bichette yet. This team rakes like, he's supposed to be back. I thought Baltimore was going to win that division for 10 years. I'm surprised that Toronto had more wins. Toronto deserves to be there. Toronto, I think, had more wins during the regular season than the greatest roster ever assembled. Didn't Toronto win more games than the Dodgers this season? If they did, it was close because they won like 93 or 94 games. They're great and they mash. But Dodger pitching is unprecedented with an era. Never mind the era, all the other advanced metrics that say it's the best starting pitching you've ever seen in a playoff.
Jack Shit
No, you're right, Dan. I mean, to have Blake Snell back. Like, the reason that the Blue Jays did win one more game this season than the Dodgers did is because they maintain their health for most of it. Now, Bichette was out at the end of the year. That offense was consistent all year long, and in the playoffs, actually, having Andres Jimenez at shortstop was kind of an advantage because Boba Shed is. Is not a tremendous defensive shortstop, but to add him to that lineup, a guy who led that team in hits, who was Right near the top of the American League in hits. If there's a team that was going to be formidable for the Dodgers, it's this Blue Jays team because their bullpen is so spectacular that if the offense can give them a lead early, you have an opportunity to. To do some things. But George Spread, I mean, he's the guy here where now he's tied for third all time in postseason home runs. He has his moment in a Blue Jays uniform. I love that Blue Jays playoff crowd. So good. It was spectacular. And. And to watch him be able to do that in that moment. Remember just a few days ago, he took a 96 mile an hour fastball off his knee. I thought he broke his kneecap. He was writhing around on the ground. And then he comes back and has this moment in that spot to give them the lead as. As one of the great playoff performers of all time. He's the only guy on that team with World Series experience, including their bench coach, Donnie Baseball, who gets to be there. Donny Tebol.
Lucy Rhodine
This feels like a real World Series, though, where you have obviously Shohei Ohtani doing Hercule and things. And then you've got Canada's team, Canada's team responsible for Joe Carter's home run, which once, you know, a generation ago, is the time that felt most like this.
Jack Shit
Poor Mitch Williams.
Lucy Rhodine
It felt most like this in what it is you see last time you saw this in Toronto might have been the Batista bat flip in terms of. But it. But you're talking about 20 years of this. This region cares deeply about this baseball team. And now it goes to fight the greatest roster ever assembled after a slug fight against the best Seattle team we've seen this century. Like, it's. It's good storylines, but you got to give us some drama against the Dodgers. You can't just roll over. They're steaming everybody like they're steam. They're steamrolling the Dodgers. The brewers are a very good baseball team. Like, they had no chance.
Jack Shit
That's a very between the brewers and the Blue Jays, though, is that the Blue Jays offense is more potent. What the brewers were able to do throughout the year was like all the little things, right? They would lay down bunts, they would bunt for base hits, they'd pull off hit and runs. They'd go first to third really well. They weren't able to do those things against the Dodgers because they were striking out so much.
Mike Ryan
Much.
Jack Shit
The Blue Jays have more pop. And I mean, look at this photo. Putting Joe Carter and George Springer next to each other in those moments in Toronto, they have a chance. Do, do I think that they're going to win the series? No. I think the Dodgers should win this series. But if there was a team in the American League that had an opportunity that if they got hot and played their best baseball that could beat the Dodgers, it, it would have been the Blue Jays, probably from the start.
Chris Cody
Congratulations to Bellevue, Washington. You're the closest city we deemed worthy of Greg Cody walking from. And how do we classify a city? City's got to have a mayor. So this is about a four hour walk that Greg Cody's got ahead of us. Not, not, not a small fee.
Dan LeBatard
10 miles in totality.
Chris Cody
This is a man with a trick knee, folks.
Lucy Rhodine
He's got to make the walk. In the interim, let's hear the home run call. Springer. Home run call in.
Dan LeBatard
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Episode: Hour 1: Dan's Favorite Rohden (feat. Lucy Rohden & Lucy's Dad)
Date: October 21, 2025
Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their extended crew bring their trademark mix of sports irreverence and community banter, with this "Local Hour" centering on Lucy Rohden’s triumphant return to Iowa for a Hawkeyes football gameday—complete with her dad, wild tailgates, and plenty of takes on college football chaos. The conversation weaves stories from the field with deep dives into the shifting landscape of NCAA coaching, playoff scenarios, and even a touch of baseball, all served with the crew’s usual blend of humor, sarcasm, and affectionate needling.
| Segment | Time Range | |--------------------------------------------|------------------| | Iowa Tailgate w/ Lucy & Dad | 02:24 – 07:38 | | Iowa Game Recap & College FB Shakeups | 08:29 – 12:56 | | Coaching Carousel: Penn St, Florida, Wis. | 13:30 – 20:51 | | Deep Dive: Wisconsin’s Crisis | 20:51 – 23:53 | | Miami’s Playoff Chances & ACC Oddities | 23:53 – 31:18 | | Lucy’s Internet Minute (Pop Culture) | 37:46 – 38:44 | | MLB: Jays vs Dodgers, Cody’s Bet | 39:32 – 45:14 |
The episode captures the Le Batard Show’s blend of sharp-witted debate, regional pride (especially around Iowa), and deep sports knowledge cut with zany inside jokes. There’s a genuine affection for college football’s chaos and rituals and a running theme of bemusement at the pettiness and weirdness of both sports institutions and media personalities.
If you missed this episode: expect tailgate stories, scorching takes on coaching firings, serious but playful debates on what makes college football tick, a smattering of baseball, and the signature communal warmth that’s made Le Batard’s show a sports radio staple.