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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Dan's Racist Mistake (feat. Pablo Torre & Tyrod Huntley)
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Dan Le Batard
Picture chicken nuggets in your head. Okay, now forget them because Taco Bell's.
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Pablo Torre
Crispy chicken nuggets are here.
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Dan Le Batard
And they're nothing like the nuggets. You know, all white meat chicken coated in tortilla chips for that signature Taco Bell crunch.
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Pablo Torre
A nugget like that calls for a.
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugats
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
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Dan Le Batard
So Pablo Torre has a new bit of reporting and I.
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Per her Instagram, Jessica Smatana and Lehman are engaged.
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Oh, wow. How about that?
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Pablo Torre
Wow.
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Dan Le Batard
Congratulations to Jessica. Congratulations. I think the last thing that Lehman did publicly was betray her. And so that ends up in a proposal. Soon thereafter, he betrayed. That's actually Jessica Snore. That is not edited in any way. Congratulations, Jessica.
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You know what they say, the best way to start a marriage is breaking trust.
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Congratulations, Lehman. They are the happy couple. So Pablo is with us and that's not how I expected to introduce that. Hunter Brooke is reporting some ties that are suspicious between the Memphis Grizzlies owner and the war in Russia and the Ukraine. So Pablo, get us caught up to date, please. On. On. On some complicated subject matter here that Adam Silver I'm sure does not want to deal with today.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, a lot to get to Dan. Hi, guys. Did Jessica have sleep apnea? Because I have sleep apnea and I feel like she might need a CPAP machine. Like that's. I gotta wear a Darth Mater. I gotta wear a Darth Vader mask to go to bed.
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Dan Le Batard
Not edited. We're not making that up. I couldn't believe it.
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Pablo Torre
That's how Jumpin Charlie snores. Speaking of trying to muffle the truth, though. Yeah, look, I have a hole, you know, at this point, a mission slash curse that I try to uphold, which is explaining to everybody who the richest people in sports are and what they're actually doing. And so it turns out one of the five richest owners in sports is the guy who owns the Memphis Grizzlies. And I'm trying to glance in the tiny window that I have on my computer at the shipping container. I don't know if you guys ever thought about who owns the Memphis Grizzlies, if you have any idea.
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Roy
Yeah, my boy Timberlake, right So.
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Pablo Torre
So this is the funny part about the Timberlake thing. So Timberlake is an owner of the Memphis Grizzlies. He's one of the limited partners of the Memphis Grizzlies. The actual owner isn't Peyton Manning.
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Dan Le Batard
No, the guy who. The young guy who wants to play one on one against everybody.
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Roy
I know, but I want, you know, to live in this weird hypothetical world where Mannings are supporting drone attacks.
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Pablo Torre
Well, they're off to the side. But the real owner, Robert Pera, the controlling majority owner, I am told separately that he was once told by a woman he met out one night that he in fact, was not the owner of the Memphis Grizzlies because she had read that Justin Timberlake was the owner of the Memphis Grizzlies. And Robert Pera, that owner, was so mad that he threatened to buy out the rest of his minority owners because, you know, how embarrassing to be the real guy only for Timberlake to get your shine. But this whole thing is about like, okay, so who is Robert Pera and where did he come from? And Robert Pera, who is at last, at last estimation, looking at it, worth over $30 billion, he is a former Apple engineer who started a company called Ubiquiti. And Ubiquiti, I don't know if you guys know this company at all, but they make really good, like, wi fi products and routers and stuff. And so what Hunter Brooke Media and Sam Koppelman, who's our guest on the show today, discovered after six months of their own investigation, is that this company, despite sanctions being placed against Russia, in fact, Ubiquiti routers and products and antennae are being used to enable the war in Ukraine, the war against Ukraine. These are the very devices that Russian soldiers have been using in what is modern warfare, in a series of what the United nations has now called crimes against humanity. And we just escalated a lot there from Timberlake to these photos. But that's kind of what sports are like now.
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Dan Le Batard
Wait a minute.
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Pablo Torre
That guy's doing funding that?
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah. So this is the part, though, that I want to get in front of people, Pablo, because I believe your Kawhi story is just easier to play with. Right? It's just got stuff that's not life and death, that's silly and funny and intrigue and espionage, but it's not this. So again, I will say that Hunter Brooke is doing the reporting. And I don't think this story is going to catch because I think it's too complicated on subject matter and people are going to move away after the initial aggregated headlines because the media is dead. So please explain to people why, why the reporting on this is important and what Adam Silver is supposed to do here because he's faced with unprecedented things that he's not equipped to lead against. Because who's thought of this as one of the things that makes, you know, an appearance as a commissioner?
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, I mean, are we vetting who these owners are and how they're making their money and continue to make their money once they're in the league? You know, a fun sort of juxtaposition here is that Robert Perra's most famous employee is Ja Morant. He is currently the face of the foremost weapons scandal in the NBA. And meanwhile, Robert Pera, according to Hunter Brooks six month investigation which involved undercover reporting to buy these very devices and ship them in a circumvention of sanctions because of the war in Ukraine, ship them to the war front in Russia. Plus certificates, which letters written to the third party vendors that Robert Perez Ubiquity does not seem interested in actually finding out about. Plus just a series of just calls and bits of testimony from Ukrainians who are watching this product, a super majority of which comprises, it seems, the technology that Russia is using to wage again, what the United nations calls crimes against humanity. It raises the question of, yeah, do we care? Do they care? And the very basic sort of technological question is very simple, right? Like you're out in the woods and your cell phone has bad reception and you wish you had WI fi. Robert Pera Ubiquiti have made a device that actually solves that problem. It creates a WI FI network out in remote locations. And the premise was we're gonna make the Internet accessible to everybody. And it turns out that it's being used not only in Russia, but also in Iran, which Robert Perez Ubiquity has previously had to answer for from the US government. And Robert Perez said back in 2014 that if this happens again, he'll be in big trouble. That's effectively a paraphrase of a quote that's in the episode we're showing that it seems to be happening again in another war zone. And the victims, of course, could not be more serious in terms of the consideration we should be paying them. And so what will the government do? What will the NBA do?
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Stugats
Dan?
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Pablo Torre
I find that the through line here is that the NBA is so PR focused that the thing they care about the most is frankly, will the US government do something to make us look bad. That was the story in the gambling scandal. Oh, no, the FBI came out and they made us look like we didn't do our jobs. That was a problem for them in this case. That is the thing that I think is the next big domino to tip over. But in the meantime, yeah, I do think sports fans should probably know, hey, this is the real weapons scandal happening in the NBA right now.
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Dan Le Batard
Easier for them to know if it wasn't distracting to hear both police sirens and what sounds like a dryer behind you.
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Are you.
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Are you drying? Are you drawing sneakers? What are you drawing?
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Jeremy
Delicate or heavy cycle?
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Pablo Torre
I. I thought I powered off the dryer. My dryer technology is not good enough.
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Dan Le Batard
What's in there? Is there a basketball in there? Like, what heavy thing did you put in the dryer? Is it just an assortment of wet towels? Lopsided banging.
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Pablo Torre
Hold on. You guys have me drying sneakers?
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Dan Le Batard
It just sounded.
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What?
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Roy
Weather has been bad.
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Dan Le Batard
Well, what is it? What.
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Pablo Torre
So three things are happening right now. Okay? I have a dryer that I thought was deactivated. I got my neighbors doing a gut renovation of their apartment, and I have the NYPD outside doing something in the snow.
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Dan Le Batard
Did you move? Are you on the move from authorities that are. Look, you're bothering very important. You're bothering very important people with reporting that people don't want in the light of day. You think Adam Silver wants to be dealing with this shit from you?
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Pablo Torre
I am told reliably that I am a pain in Adam Silver's ass. At this point, we asked for comment from all these entities and Hunter Brooke again, I credit their investigation partnering with them on this. It's a lonely world trying to be the guy who angers people who have again, $30 billion in the case of the.
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Dan Le Batard
Here's the thing.
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Pablo Torre
50 billion in the case of Steve Ballmer.
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Dan Le Batard
I believe that we no longer live in an environment that absorbs shame or even polite society. So trying to do journalism in these times when the rules are totally different make me suspicious that all of this. Months of reporting that are required to put this in the light of day disappear in 12 hours because it's subject matter that is too hard for the daily sports argument machine to talk about.
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Pablo Torre
Oh, look, I think that very few other networks. You are also on an island here. I don't think any. I've gotten zero calls. But hey, can come on our show to talk about the crimes against humanity story and Robert Pera. So thank you guys for making time. But also, I do think, like, the whole premise of the show is this story. When you see it unfold in an episode is actually pretty. I will say this at the risk of tooting my own horn. It's pretty entertaining, right? It's not boring. And so the question is, can the attention span of the sports audience even withstand the attempt to make this interesting for you? We've, we've melted cheese, we got Timberlake, we got Kevin Hart, we got a bunch of. We have one on one games against Tony Allen and Michael Jordan that never happened. We have an NBA owner saying about Robert Pera, no one knows where his sales are coming from. Like, this is a mystery in the league we're solving for the first time with some celebrity around it. But we can only bring, you know.
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Dan Le Batard
The horse to water you're selling. But Pablo Torre finds out is regularly doing stuff like this. But I need to point out again, this is the six month work of Hunter Brooke. Here he is just showcasing the work because the media is more and more fractured and you require certain partnerships to get work like this done.
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Pablo Torre
Yes.
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Dan Le Batard
Work that the billionaires would prevent in every way from having done because it cost lawyers a lot of it costs a lot of money to get this work done. And Memphis and the NBA don't want you to see any of it.
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Pablo Torre
Look, Hunter Brooke is yet to be partnered with. Just briefly, when we investigated HBA with Hunter Brooke, the Chinese brainwaves with Hunter Brooke and now this with Hunter Brooke. We need more like the thing, I want to be very clear about this. I can be territorial in terms of like trying to establish why we do what we do. But Lord, I would welcome help. I would love to platform other journalists who are doing this stuff because the more of us that are doing it, the harder it is for the richest people in the world to actually ignore the findings.
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Roy
Pablo, the New England Patriots built themselves up after losing Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. They tried to draft Tom Brady's replacement in Mac Jones. They whiffed on that and then they got Drake May and now they're back in the super bowl. All before Joel Embiid made it to a conference final. That's a wrap on the process, right?
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Dan Le Batard
You give up, they lost by 40.
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Roy
Charlotte, that's it. That's it on the process.
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Dan Le Batard
Stop.
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Roy
Just hang it up.
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Pablo Torre
Why? Why?
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Roy
Even if they were to be successful, it wasn't because of the process at this point.
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Dan Le Batard
Like, that's it. Charlotte was up 50 in the third quarter and Embiid wasn't playing up 50 yesterday.
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Pablo Torre
I'm trying to talk about war crimes and you're bringing me Joel Embiid's knees. Really? Guy never plays less than 50%.
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Roy
We're all trying to embrace us being able to say into a microphone when we had that one wrong.
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Pablo Torre
This is what Miami's been reduced to.
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Dan Le Batard
Have you thought about Robert Paris?
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Pablo Torre
The Canes are out of the news cycle and now all you got is this.
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Dan Le Batard
Have you thought about Robert Paris team potentially having Terry Rozier on that roster?
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Well, Pablo, I have seen that the sports media and national media has grabbed you recently because they love talking about the sports betting stuff. And you come in and you talk about the overarching point shaving and indictments. So in the recent rounds you've made on that particular story that the NBA would also like you to not be making the rounds about, what have been the most interesting details recently?
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Pablo Torre
Oh, God. I mean the fact that this stuff is not even close to over. I mean, we are in the position of being a tiny newsroom that is trying to chase the biggest stories that are actively being investigated by the Fed. So when the federal government drops that big indictment. This is now the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. By the way, I'm not even on their email list. I'm getting emails from the Eastern district of New York, which is what was doing the operation nothing but bet stuff and Operation Royal Flush, right? The NBA side stuff, that's New York. Now Pennsylvania is in this with the college kids with the college games and that say the obvious thing, right? Like those are the soft targets that are most easily compromised because their cost benefit analysis of like, what am I making salary wise versus what could I be making if I were to manipulate games. They've always been the biggest targets. And so when the FBI and the Eastern District of Pennsylvania get in on that, what we're doing is scrambling to catch up because God knows that we have a list of names that are popping up before we can publish. And so the most interesting thing to me is that we have not seen the bond with rabbit hole on that yet. There are more NBA characters that we are trying to be responsible in our reporting before we name. There are characters that are obscure, that are all that only really like some NBA degenerate fans would recognize. But the college stuff is. Is unbelievable. That's not.
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Dan Le Batard
That's not the dryer. That's people doing work upstairs. Right.
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Pablo Torre
That's the gut renovation.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah. That's not the dryer. Okay.
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Pablo Torre
They don't, by the way. They. They also them my neighbors, like the national media doesn't give a shit that I'm investigating some of the most.
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Dan Le Batard
So I have fewer than 30 seconds left. Please help me implore and beg both the sports media and the media to pay attention to this. Hunter Brook reporting. Please tell me what I need to do to get this subject matter, the way that they run to you the moment that you do anything about kawhi or sports betting.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, in 30 seconds. What I would say is that if you spent a second thinking about how should we punish John Morant for waving around a gun and you should spare a couple of minutes for an investigation that took six months into the owner of the team, his boss, who is enabling Russia's drone war and effectively powering, according to this reporting, crimes against humanity. According to the United nations, the real weapons scandal that the NBA has to make a decision on how to respond to is not John Morant waving guns on Instagram, as serious as that may be. It's drone warfare that is being enabled by the technology of his owner, who by now has been warned about how his technology winds up in Iran and now in Russia, according to this reporting. So just keep that in mind the next time you think about, ooh, what's a controversy in the NBA. There might be something even bigger than that.
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Dan Le Batard
Has to take him 80 seconds. Just can't do it.
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Stugats
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Roy
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Pablo Torre
And that.
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Roy
That sound of cracking open that beautiful white can, it does make me feel better. Thank you.
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Dan Le Batard
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- [19:06]
Roy
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Dan Le Batard
Don LeBatard.
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Pablo Torre
I heard that. As a woman faking pain. I. I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't.
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Dan Le Batard
You know, it was not fake. It was in no way fake. You can spot a woman faking it. Stugats.
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Pablo Torre
Yes, I can. Jess Expert. I've been married 40 years.
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Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug.
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Folks. Listen up. You think you've got the boldest take of the week?
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Well, prove it.
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Call us at 305-486-GOTZ.
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Put it on the poll, please. At Lebatard show. Are you surprised that Shador Sanders has now more Pro bowl invitations than Caleb Williams and Jordan Love combined at Lebatard show? Zaslow was unreasonably mad earlier about the Pro Bowl. I worry about anybody that gets unreasonably mad about the Pro Bowl.
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Jeremy
There is nothing to worry about when it comes to me and the Pro bowl, because all I'm here to tell you is Pro Bowl. Get the hell out of my face. I don't even know what they're doing anymore. I know they're not playing an actual game. Is it flag football? Is it all kinds of stupid tchotchke games? I don't even know what they're doing. But when we're replacing Drake May in whatever cockamamie game you got going on with Shadur Sanders, who was statistically one of the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL this year. Pro Bowl. Get the hell out of my face.
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Pablo Torre
I could not agree with my friend Zaslow.
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Dan Le Batard
How about the way he said it, though?
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Pablo Torre
I think it. It warranted. Oh.
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Dan Le Batard
Oh. So this is not about his tone. It's just whether you agree with it or not.
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Could have used a cough. Could have used a cough in there.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, I could have used a cough. But I think the outrage was warranted.
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Dan Le Batard
I mean, really, to be outraged by.
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Jeremy
The hell out of my face.
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Pablo Torre
Seriously, Shador Sanders, he had a terrible rookie season, okay? Terrible.
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Dan Le Batard
Everybody's got that opinion, right? Nobody. I mean, and the Pro Bowl. Stupid. And we're really going to get mad about the Pro bowl like that? Yes, but there's no one who doesn't have that opinion. Correct? Or is this two Americas. Is Shador Sanders such a symbol for excellence? Such a polarizing avatar for. Everybody's been holding him back and holding him down. And Jamel Hill even tells us, yeah, I'm not saying anything bad about him because he represents black excellence. Is that what we're gonna do with Shador Sanders now? We're gonna make it a First take topic so everyone can yell. Except black people are saying, stop pounding on him.
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Stugats
Yes.
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Dan Le Batard
Okay, good. That's smart. That's good.
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First take as the headline. What can brown do for you?
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Flag football game. Okay, that's what we're doing.
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Jeremy
I don't even know if that's what it is, but whatever the Pro bowl is these days, I already told you, get the hell out of my face.
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Dan Le Batard
All right. This seems like a good way to spend the time of white and black people arguing about this.
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Pablo Torre
Can he just be a bad quarterback? Can't he just have had a bad season and not merit the honor of a Pro Bowl? Isn't that possible?
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Dan Le Batard
Who's the white quarterback that got invited that we can be upset about? I'll find it.
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Okay.
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Pablo Torre
Will you?
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Dan Le Batard
But I mean, right now it's just him and Tyrod Huntley. Those are the two Pro Bowlers for all time.
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Stugats
Ooh.
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Roy
How do you felt?
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Dan Le Batard
Yikes.
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Roy
How'd you feel about that name? They feel good.
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Dan Le Batard
Well, now I put it.
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Jeremy
That's why I call him Snoop, because.
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Dan Le Batard
I can never remember either.
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Pablo Torre
What's Huntley's first name again?
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Roy
Did you combine him with another black quarterback? Is that what you did?
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, with Shador Sanders as well. So I'm putting three of them. I should have just said Huntley is what I should have said. I feel. I'm feeling that one. That one hurt. Tyler just became Tyrod. Yeah.
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Pablo Torre
Wow. And you're accusing other people to America's.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yeah. That's what happened. Like, I can't even deny it. You see through me in a way that has me exposed and vulnerable. I feel nude in front of you.
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Roy
Because I felt bad when you said it.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, me too. Imagine how I felt.
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Jeremy
You had secondhand embarrassment, right?
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Stugats
Yeah.
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Roy
Yeah. I was like, that's not his name.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, that's not. I knew it right away.
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Roy
That's a Pro bowl quarterback. He's talking.
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Dan Le Batard
Kind of like when Zaz earlier tried to talk with his mic off.
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He was a Dolphins quarterback. Look, I. Right now, just so that you know, if it were not clear to you guys who are so helpful in these circumstances about making sure to bail out an old man who made a mistake, I right now feel not merely nude in front of America, but also covered in feces. That's how I feel right now. So if you want to smear more feces on me, go ahead, because that's what just happened. America. I could confused an assortment of black quarterbacks who don't belong in the Pro Bowl. That's what happened? All of them. That's what I just did. Vince Evans, too, was in there.
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Your take is black quarterbacks do not belong in the.
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That is my take. Yes. I'm doubling down. Yes, yes. Go ahead and go and aggregate me. I got a. I got a text message yesterday.
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Roy
Dismissal.
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Dan Le Batard
I got a text message yesterday from one of those clowns at shit stains website that wants me to comment on something that they're doing with the racial wars. And I wanted to comment. Yeah, you work for a shit stain. That's my comment. Thank you for continuing to do just exceptionally shitty work. If you're an extension of a shitty shit stain, that makes you in the turd business. You're a turd in the turd business. That's my commentary. But I didn't send any of that.
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Roy
Good quote, overcompensating for your racist mistake.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, that's all that's happened there. You're absolutely right. I'm in front of you nude and covered in feces. America making. Look, I threw Warren Moon in there. Doug Williams was in there, Michael Vick was in there. And in the middle of it, I was. I was defending him against dog fighting allegations. There were so many black quarterbacks in there.
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Pablo Torre
Lamar Jackson, overrated, Am I right?
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Jeremy
All of this is happening right now because the Pro bowl wouldn't get the hell out of my face.
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Dan Le Batard
That's the reason I am now immersed in one of my greatest shames as a journalist. After gas bagging and soapboxing in the last segment, isn't Pablo doing good work stealing the work of Hunter Brook and grifting off of it in order to show that there's a relationship with Putin? Possibly. Then right after that, I just immediately go into the dumpster and create an amalgamations of black quarterbacks that turns Huntley into Tyrone. I know it's Tyrod. I know, Jeremy. I know, I know, I know you're quick. You smell the feces and you want to throw some more. I know the death metal, Jeremy. I know it's not Tyrod Huntley.
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I don't like what the team did. They cut it up. I mean, I could play it, but we don't want to do that, right?
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Stugats
I'd love if you.
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Roy
No, I don't like that.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, it's just him and Tyrod Huntley. I mean, I know it's been echoing in my head since I said it. Like you.
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That's why I didn't like they did that. I don't know why I even played it. That was.
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Pablo Torre
That was Low.
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Dan Le Batard
We shouldn't have done that.
- [26:08]
It's just him and Tyrod Huntley. That's not the way to defend Shador Sanders in these.
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You want to play Zazzus from earlier? The DraftKings thing? I have that, too.
- [26:17]
Roy
Will that make you feel better?
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Dan Le Batard
No.
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Pablo Torre
No, let's try.
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Roy
He messes up, too.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but it doesn't have racism.
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Let's see.
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Jeremy
This episode of the Dan LeBatard show is Draft, presented by DraftKings.
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Dan Le Batard
Oh, no, it's Draft.
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Yeah. It's not nearly the same.
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Roy
I mean, you can play with.
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Pablo Torre
My mistake.
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Stugats
Wait.
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Pablo Torre
Made any play?
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Roy
Play it one more time. I want to see if there's racism there.
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Jeremy
This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings.
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Dan Le Batard
Oh, no.
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Roy
Yeah. No racism.
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Tony
Sorry.
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Dan Le Batard
I'm sorry to all black quarterbacks. I'm sorry to all credible journalists. I'm sorry to all public speakers. I'm sorry to all journalists who have come before me. This is a source of eternal shame. I am not sorry for Shitstain or anyone who works for him. Can you guys get me the video, please, that I was looking for when Diana Rossini was talking about the Harbaughs? Because I want to present to all of you something that you may or may not know. If you know the answer to this, please do not say it out loud because it'll ruin the video. But are you guys aware that there is presently a coach in the NFL who has more career rushing yards than Bo Jackson? Is everyone here there's a head coach in the NFL because an assortment of coaches were asked if they could guess who that coach was. But I'm guessing from the look on your faces that none of you think Andy Reid had more rushing yards in the NFL than Bo Jackson, but that there is an NFL coach who has more career rushing yards than Bo Jackson. And so an assortment of coaches were asked this question of can you name this? And Sean McVay especially was particularly perturbed. Like, it was funny to see their reactions. McVay's perturbed because he's a bit of a genius when it comes to football history. He knows so much, it's a bit scary. He can do memorization, games that are nuts. But also, John Harbaugh was pretty pissed here for a number of reasons, but including because he's stubborn. Not surprisingly, he's one of these guys. Don't tell me the answer. I'm eventually going to get the answer. That's the least surprising thing in this entire clip, right? That a Harbaugh is you better not tell me the answer. I'm a self sufficient, self made man. I don't need answers from the Internet. I know this answer. I know it's. Don't give me any help with this.
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Pablo Torre
Which current head coach has more regular.
- [28:29]
Dan Le Batard
Season rushing yards than Bo Jackson? Current regular head coach has more. You mean in the NFL or. In the NFL? Oh, it can't be Campbell. Is there a quarterback? Campbell?
- [28:40]
Roy
O'.
- [28:40]
Dan Le Batard
Connell. He never played. Really?
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Pablo Torre
It's not Mike McDaniel?
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Dan Le Batard
Pete Carroll. But that would been. That would have been leather helmet days. Nope. Not giving up. Not giving up my conference. Patriots? Jets. Jets. No, he's played corner. I don't want you to tell me somebody. What. What division is west? The West.
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Pablo Torre
Jim.
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Dan Le Batard
Jim. Oh, my God.
- [29:04]
That's terrible. That is so bad. How does he not know that? Now the original clip has a bunch of coaches, McVeigh and McDaniel and a whole bunch. Nobody. Nobody could get it. It's shocking to. That's a shocking statistic.
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Stugats
I mean, it's.
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Jeremy
It's shocking. But he. Jim Harbaugh was really the only possible answer.
- [29:23]
Dan Le Batard
Well, for John Harbaugh to not remember, though, for him to get that many clues, it's in your conference. Like how. How does he. How. How do you skip right past your brother because you think so little of his athletic talents, even though he was the great quarterbacking athlete in your family. Like. Like John. John Harbaugh pales compared to Jim. Athletically, Jim Harbaugh played the hardest position in the hardest way. I'm sure he buries John with that all the time as his brother. And John, I don't know if John is younger, older, what is there. What is the age difference between them? I don't even know.
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So Jim Harbaugh was like Drake May out there.
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No, but he was a scrambling quarterback.
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Roy
He wasn't.
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Jeremy
He could run for the long time.
- [30:07]
Roy
Yeah. When he was captain Comeback. He also, like, came this close, Chris, to taking the Indianapolis Colts to the Super Bowl.
- [30:13]
Jeremy
Hail Mary.
- [30:14]
Roy
He had a Hail Mary that just squirted out.
- [30:16]
Dan Le Batard
He ran so much, I almost called him Tyrod. Tyrod Harbaugh.
- [30:23]
Jeremy
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Captain Slappy STS is this chum Bucket.
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Stugats
This is the Dan lebatar Show with.
- [33:16]
Dan Le Batard
The St. Tony is in Hialea, and he is. I'm grateful for this because we wanted to show you my father here. He had a factory in Hialeah that he ran as a fiberglass plant. I spent a great deal of my childhood in this city, and it is the fifth least affordable housing market in the United States. And Ben Affleck doesn't know how to pronounce it in the movie the Rip H now featured on Netflix. H. Tony, where are you? What are you doing? And where are you taking us? In a city that has a bunch of streets, and I don't think ways will help you here because of the way that 86 turns into 54th without any explanation.
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Tony
Good morning, Dan. We are here at the fountain at the entrance of Hialeah. As you can see, 100 years. We're celebrating 100 years of our beautiful city, the city of progress. Right now, I'm standing on Okeechobee Road in East Drive. You can. I don't even know if you can find that on a map, but I want to see if we can throw to some B roll. If you're. If you're driving on the Palmetto and you get off on 103rd, it quickly turns into 40 West 49.
- [34:29]
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, you got to be careful with that.
- [34:30]
Tony
Inexplicably, we don't know why. We don't know why that happens, but there's evidence of it somewhere that's going to be on the screen at some point right now.
- [34:39]
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. You can't see what you're doing. So this feels a little like skyscraper where El Duncan is yelling, Alec, can you hear us? No, he can't hear you. And then you ask him how he feels about being at the top of the sky.
- [34:49]
Jeremy
I don't remember that scene. I just remember Will Sawyer. He was jumping from the scaffold onto the building. Tony.
- [34:55]
Tony
With a peg leg.
- [34:56]
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, with a peg leg. We don't say that. We can't say that anymore.
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Tony
First, first off, first off. First off, do not tell me what I can't say after what you just did this segment. Wow. People in Hialeah were disgusted.
- [35:08]
Dan Le Batard
Hylia. Thank you, Tony. I appreciate the support. Yeah. Okeechobee. Look. That's the sound of Okeechobee. You're not on Okeechobee. Unless you hear a truck farting, exhausted, laying out.
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Roy
Does give me the opportunity to thank me allies.
- [35:27]
Dan Le Batard
Tony.
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Tony
There it is, Dan. Okeechobee.
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Dan Le Batard
Yes. It's the famous. It's the Okeechobee is the most. It is the most famous street in Hialeah, is it not?
- [35:38]
Tony
Yeah. Or West 49th street or some other random street that they have. Yeah, whatever. It doesn't matter.
- [35:45]
Dan Le Batard
Okay, so. So are you gonna do your top five? Are you ready to do your top five from the city of Progress?
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Tony
Born and ready, baby. Let's do it. H Town stand up. Had a big point from an oil rigor there.
- [36:05]
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I saw. I saw. You got that. You gotta ask the trucks for some. You gotta to keep doing the sound so that you get some horns from the trucks the entire time.
- [36:14]
Tony
Okay. If there's a truck, I'll. I'll be on the lookout. So if you see me do this, there's a truck passing by. We'll start off one Oli this week. Obviously, we only had two games to pull from, so. One Oli. Is there really a worse football name than Jake Bobo?
- [36:27]
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, it's not a great name. That's a tough one. Yeah. 17 yard touchdown didn't belong in that game. That Jake com just caught a 17 yard touchdown. Bobo. I don't think you could say Bobo anymore actually in Spanish either. I think it's in the realm of peg leg. I'm not sure.
- [36:47]
Tony
They can't take. They cannot take Bobo from us. They cannot take Bobo from us.
- [36:51]
Dan Le Batard
Bobo might be on the spectrum. I do. I'm not sure in Spanish. I don't know what the rules are.
- [36:56]
Tony
No, no, no. I'm draw. I draw the line there. We keep Bobo.
- [36:59]
Dan Le Batard
I don't think it's.
- [37:01]
Tony
They can't take that from.
- [37:01]
Dan Le Batard
I don't think. Think it's the line for you to.
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I trust Tony.
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I'm not sure. No, I think it's close to peg leg. I think it's close. You know, you've never considered what you're. You've never considered what I'm asking you right now, which is. I think that might be how we refer to a phrase that we can't say in English anymore.
- [37:21]
Tony
Again, it's in Spanish. Nobody knows.
- [37:23]
Dan Le Batard
Nobody knows.
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Tony
Jake.
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Stugats
Jake. Bobo.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I left it.
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Yeah.
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Yes. You're gonna keep getting honks. Number. Number five.
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Tony
Yeah, I'm gonna get Hanks. All right. Number five.
- [37:37]
Dan Le Batard
Really?
- [37:37]
Tony
Mike McCarthy.
- [37:39]
Dan Le Batard
I lay it. Okay, that is shocking news from earlier in the program. Greg Cody reporting that a dolphin source told him that Mike McDaniel is interviewing so much because of the. I can't even say. It should make the. The Tyrod Rooney rule.
- [37:57]
Tony
Oh, no.
- [37:59]
Dan Le Batard
What happened?
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Pablo Torre
Number four.
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Roy
I don't know.
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Tony
I want to stay away from all that stuff. I'm gonna keep Bobo on my side. You guys deal with that over there.
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Pablo Torre
Number four.
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Tony
After the first drive, I really thought Jared Stidham was gonna do a Nick Bowles. That pass, that had a 55 yard pass. I was like, there's no way. There's no way. They got him off the street. He hasn't thrown a pass in two years. It looked like it was to the Patriots defense.
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Jeremy
I thought it was on.
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Tony
I was like, oh, my God, they're gonna route them. They're gonna run them out of the building. It's gonna be that bad. And then he threw a backwards pass and himself, and that was that.
- [38:32]
Jeremy
Dan's all like, I'm not watching this game. I refuse. So I'm like, you're missing a classic.
- [38:37]
Tony
Bad take. Yeah, bad take by Dan. What else? What else is new, though? Number three, Drake May. Drake May. Calling his own number. Not telling anybody. Absolute huge dragging, dangling cojones.
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Stugats
Dan.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
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Tony
You don't do that unless you know you're gonna get that first down. And when he peeled off and that line backwards cutting, he was like, oh, God, please don't let me slip here. Because if I slip and we don't get this first down, things are gonna be nasty. I got a peace sign from that guy at least.
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Dan Le Batard
And that's not helpful. Number two.
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Tony
The two quarterbacks in the NFC championship game produced the second best passing total in one game in playoff history. 720 yards combined between two quarterbacks. Only Brady versus Foles in super bowl, whatever that was. I don't know. Roman numerals. Lii had only more passing yards. 878.
- [39:32]
Dan Le Batard
All right, put it on the poll at Le Roman numerals.
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Tony
Let me know.
- [39:35]
Dan Le Batard
Do you know what Super bowl, bowl, Super Bowl, LLI was.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah, whatever.
- [39:42]
Dan Le Batard
I don't think that's number one.
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Tony
L, L, I, I. Dan. LII is that 52 is L50? I don't know.
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Pablo Torre
Whatever.
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Roy
Not the point.
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Tony
Number one, this game produced arguably the best two wide receiver dueling performance ever in a conference title game with both receivers going over 150 yards and a score. Something that is never, never been done before in a conference championship game ever.
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Dan Le Batard
Thank you, Tony. We appreciate that report. Yeah, the. The trucks didn't cooperate. You probably need to get a little closer to the street if you want to get closer to the street. We can go and get more football information from you in about five minutes where you're a little closer to the street.
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I could Just do highway sound.
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Pablo Torre
Honestly?
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, Just. Okay, then just leave the. Leave Tony there. Tony, please don't say anything. You just keep asking for honks. And we'll just have as ambient noise behind you for the next eight minutes. The sound of you on Okeechobee and Hialeah.
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Tony
You got it, Dano.
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Dan Le Batard
Thank you. Are we using Roman numerals for anything else other than Will Fuller? Like, is it just Super Bowls? Are Roman numerals now dead?
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Pablo Torre
No.
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Dan Le Batard
Is that. Well, where. Where are we being. Where are we using Roman numerals and.
- [40:52]
Pablo Torre
They still use them in ancient Roman.
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Dan Le Batard
Is it like, cursive? Tony, I need you to keep quiet. Tony, I just. Tony, I need you to keep quiet.
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No laughing word. It works.
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Tony, I just want to hear highway sounds from you. So I. I think it's like cursive. I think it's like being able to tell time on a clock. I think that there are certain things that kids are not growing up with and anymore. Are you okay, Tony?
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Roy
Okay.
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Dan Le Batard
And. And Roman numerals.
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Tony
I'm good. I'm good.
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Dan Le Batard
Is.
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Is one of them right where the super bowl is the only thing keeping the room and alive other than Will Fuller. Correct.
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Jeremy
I miss when WrestleMania used to use the Roman numerals.
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Roy
Felt big, you know, Vince thought it made them look old.
- [41:34]
Jeremy
Stupid.
- [41:34]
Dan Le Batard
Well, the Romans are that stupid, man. The numerals are that. They. They are indeed old.
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Jeremy
Yeah, but it feels like grand when you got, like, the X put it.
- [41:44]
Dan Le Batard
On the pole at Leviticus show. Does it feel like grand when you have the Roman numeral?
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Roy
Elle gets in there and it doesn't look as prestigious.
- [41:55]
Dan Le Batard
Right.
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Pablo Torre
I agree. Why can't they just say Super Bowl 66? Oh, which is what this.
- [42:00]
Dan Le Batard
Because Roman numerals make it seem more grand. And speaking of old, Roy on the Hockey show is revisiting the. What has to still be considered the greatest, greatest upset in the history of American sports. Correct.
- [42:14]
Roy
If.
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Dan Le Batard
If we are still talking 46 years later about what is the biggest moment in the history of American sports. It's the United States hockey team beating the professional Russians in the 1980 Olympics, correct?
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Stugats
Yeah, absolutely. We interviewed Jack O'. Callaghan.
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Jeremy
Hell, yeah.
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Stugats
One of the defensemen on that 1980s United States hockey team. He joined us on behalf of Netflix, who has a documentary on the team. It's called Miracle the boys of 80. Watch that interview on the Hockey Show's YouTube page at the Hockey Show DLS. I asked him because we were talking about Herb Brooks at the end of the interview. What exactly is a Herbie. And it's a skating drill where they had to skate from goal line to blue line. Suicide. Yeah. Back to the goal line, sudden ice, back to the goal line, to the other blue line, back to the goal line, back all the way to the.
- [43:05]
Dan Le Batard
Other goal and back.
- [43:06]
Stugats
It's exhausting.
- [43:07]
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
- [43:08]
Stugats
You had to do it in 45 seconds, otherwise you would have to do it again.
- [43:11]
Dan Le Batard
Herb Brooks would be banned today from anything that resembles professional sports by an assortment of unions.
- [43:16]
Stugats
They did that for 45 minutes after the normal.
- [43:19]
Pablo Torre
Yeah.
- [43:19]
Dan Le Batard
Herb Brooks would be illegal. The Coach of the U.S. olympic hockey team would not be allowed to do his job that way.
- [43:24]
Jeremy
I watched Miracle. I showed it to my younger son for the first time last week. It's my favorite, favorite sports movie. We watched it last weekend. Movie's awesome.
- [43:32]
Stugats
Yeah. As a galvanizing thing that happened for the team because it was a team full of rivals who did not like each other, and that switched to a unified team.
- [43:42]
Jeremy
That was legit, that scene.
- [43:43]
Stugats
That was legit.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah. Awesome.
- [43:45]
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Are there more good hockey movies or more good football movies? I don't know how good the Netflix series is. This is. Look, there are certain. Certain things in sports that make things the best. Right. It's rare that you have regional identity around something or pride in something that is emotional for you in sports beyond the results of the game. But patriotism is always the best thing. It's why the World cup is the best thing. It's not even regional pride. It's national pride. And so for this to stand the test of time with all the games that are being played 45 years later as the single of the greatest upset stories there's ever been, never to be dethroned by any upset, because what's close, It's Mike Tyson and Buster Douglas. Like, what are the. What are the ones that you would point to and say, that's the greatest rival I've seen. Look, Indiana would have to be considered. The football season that Indiana just completed would go in that conversation if not for the patriotism of. Nothing's ever going to go in that conversation because it also has the political ties of. We saw Russia fall when everyone thought that the Russian professionals were our greatest, you know, enemy.
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Pablo Torre
Yeah.
- [45:02]
Jeremy
It'll never be topped because the Cold War, the pros versus the college kids.
- [45:07]
Pablo Torre
It'll.
- [45:08]
Jeremy
It'll. And it was in Lake Placid. It was at home. It'll never, ever be topped.
- [45:13]
Stugats
Yeah. And the production sent the living members of the team Back to Lake Placid. They had them sit on the bench and watch footage of what happened in 1980.
- [45:21]
Dan Le Batard
Old guys telling stories.
- [45:23]
Pablo Torre
Yes.
- [45:23]
Dan Le Batard
They can inflate all the tails. They can just lie and wrap it all in the American flag. The American flag is never wrapped in lies.
- [45:32]
Stugats
Yeah, it was amazing. It's just a great, great documentary.
- [45:34]
Jeremy
And it also features the greatest play by play call of all time.
- [45:38]
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
- [45:38]
Pablo Torre
Oh, Michael.
- [45:39]
Dan Le Batard
Michael still hasn't done better than that. The thing I wanted to ask you guys about, I don't know if you guys saw this, but Ariel Helwani, it's fine to keep the Hialeah dulcet sounds of the highway.
- [45:50]
Better than going to like. I would rather sleep to that than, like, rain. I love this sound right now.
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Except for New Yorking.
- [45:56]
Maybe not the honking, but, like, it's the good stuff right here. While we're here in this hum, put.
- [46:00]
It on the poll at LeBatard show. What is second place to New York in America in honking? Like, what do you think? Like, New York is the winner. But I am consistently in my feelings about somebody honking to me unreasonably fast because we are a city of honkers and a lot of frustrated people out there in their cars and traffic is super annoying, so tempers are frayed. But what finishes second place in America? If I were to say to everyone listening, hey, what's the second loudest honking city in the United States?
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Stugats
Los Angeles.
- [46:35]
Dan Le Batard
I don't think of Los Angeles that way, though. I. I don't hear a lot of honking in Los Angeles. And you would think with traffic there being as bad as this, it's big and it's congested. But I do not associate Los Angeles with. With honking. Miami's an angrier town.
- [46:50]
Jeremy
Yeah, it could be here.
- [46:50]
Dan Le Batard
Miami's more. More frustrated. I think you're making that up, Roy. I don't think Los Angeles even has a honking reputation. New York, it's just a big city.
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It's because it's a trap. It's thought of a lot of traffic. So I'm with Roy. You just kind of assume when there's a lot of traffic, there's honking.
- [47:04]
Why would you do that, Tyrod?
- [47:07]
Stugats
Whoa, whoa, man. I'm getting hr, man.
- [47:13]
Dan Le Batard
I can't believe I did that again.
- [47:17]
Stugats
Getting old, man.
- [47:19]
Roy
I'd be filing a letter over to my HR if you could so kindly.
- [47:23]
Dan Le Batard
Read that for me, Nate McLouth.
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That's all it says.
- [47:29]
Roy
No, seriously, there's. Open up this scroll.
- [47:34]
Dan Le Batard
Oh wow, there's really something here. He just wanted to go with his own ahoy instead of the one you were inviting him.
- [47:39]
Jeremy
I have been repeatedly referred to as pegleg in the workplace. Well, I'm known for me maritime enthusiasm. This be a step too far. Moreover, there be no known correlation between scurvy and limloss. Also, Dan confused two black QBs and.
- [47:58]
Dan Le Batard
That should not go unpunished.
- [48:00]
Captain Jack Bobo I don't think you can say Will Bobo anymore. I don't. I don't think you can anymore.
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Roy
That be me name.
- [48:10]
Jeremy
Tom Gorzalani the good stuff.
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Dan Le Batard
Hyla zack duke.
- [48:25]
Truck drivers have to be tired of that gesture right?
- [48:28]
The Jason Kendall just keep playing Hylia as he does Pirates Grayson Shut up.
- [48:36]
Jeremy
Jason Bay hylia Ryan Dew it Adam.
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