Hour 1: Down The Rabbit Hole (feat. Ron Magill)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz — Hour 1: Down The Rabbit Hole (feat. Ron Magill)
Release Date: February 11, 2025

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1. Miami Heat’s Terry Rozier Trade Controversy

Timestamp: 01:22 – 03:42

The episode kicks off with host Dan LeBatard and co-host Stugotz delving into the heated discussion surrounding the Miami Heat's acquisition of Terry Rozier. Mike Ryan expresses his strong disapproval of Rozier joining the team, labeling him "one of the most unpopular players in Heat history" (02:35). Greg Cote adds to the debate, critiquing Rozier's efficiency by stating, “The only time I've seen Terry Rozier be good is in Charlotte, and he wasn't because Charlotte wasn't any good” (03:22). This segment underscores the skepticism about Rozier's impact on the Heat's performance and foreshadows ongoing tension within the fanbase.

Greg Cote: "Nobody except Jamal Ashburn has ever been good in a Charlotte uniform."
Dan LeBatard: "Nobody except Jamal Ashburn has ever been good in a Charlotte uniform." (03:25)

2. The Marcus Jordan Mock Arrest

Timestamp: 04:15 – 07:35

Dan introduces a comedic skit featuring a fictionalized version of Marcus Jordan interacting with law enforcement. In this segment, Marcus is humorously portrayed as being mistakenly arrested, highlighting the absurdity of his supposed behavior.

Marcus Jordan: "I'm Marcus Jordan. I'm Michael Jordan's side. I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just trying to get home. And I made a wrong turn." (05:50)
Dan LeBatard: "Can you play the sound of Marcus Jordan? And I don't know, like, I think it's probably reckless to suggest that anyone has a cocaine problem." (06:00)

This skit satirizes celebrity culture and the pressures associated with being Michael Jordan's son, blending humor with social commentary.

3. Fan Protests Over Mavericks’ Trade Decision

Timestamp: 16:06 – 22:43

The conversation shifts to the Dallas Mavericks' controversial trade of Luka Doncic in exchange for Anthony Davis. The hosts discuss the fan backlash, particularly focusing on chants like “Bring him back. He’s not fat” heard at Mavericks games. Greg Cote criticizes the Mavericks' management, asserting that the organization "totally miscalculated this reaction from their fan base" (22:33).

Greg Cote: "If Anthony Davis doesn't get hurt, are they still protesting outside?"
Dan LeBatard: "You think they underestimated the reaction?" (22:38)

Mike Ryan reiterates his disdain for the trade, emphasizing that the Mavericks failed to anticipate the negative response from their loyal supporters.

Ron McGill: "If you got them all on truth serum, right? You never have to experience what you will. Just go back to two weeks ago, pal. You never have to do this." (22:52)

4. The “Sex and the Animals” Segment with Ron McGill

Timestamp: 25:49 – 38:14

Ron McGill returns to introduce his popular segment, "Sex and the Animals," where he presents humorous and sometimes risqué interactions between humans and animals. The segment features compiled videos of animals behaving provocatively or engaging in unexpected interactions with humans.

Ron McGill: "I'm bringing out of retirement the most popular thing he's done in his zoo career, which is Sex and the Animals." (25:54)

The hosts react to various animal clips, discussing the plausibility and humor behind each scenario. This segment blends comedic elements with light-hearted animal behavior analysis.

Greg Cote: "Research sex with animals should be talking." (37:56)

5. Strange Animal Behaviors and AI-Generated Content

Timestamp: 39:04 – 41:49

The discussion moves to bizarre animal videos submitted by listeners, including a baby capybara being teased by a grackle and a questionable video featuring what appears to be a shark attacking a human. Chris Cote expresses skepticism about the authenticity of some videos, suggesting possible AI manipulation.

Chris Cote: "I don't believe that video." (32:25)
Chris Cote: "I just got back from the Galapagos Island. I was surrounded by about 20 hammerheads just circling above, not doing anything." (33:07)

The hosts humorously debate the reality of these animal encounters, highlighting the fine line between genuine wildlife footage and fabricated content.

6. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: 41:49 – End

As the episode wraps up, Dan LeBatard teases upcoming content and expresses appreciation for Ron McGill's contributions. The hosts briefly touch upon the importance of supporting Ron's endeavors and hint at future engaging segments.

Dan LeBatard: "I tell the people, please support his substantive endowment." (41:38)
Ron McGill: "Great conversations and great times ahead." (41:49)

The episode concludes on a light-hearted note, encouraging listeners to stay tuned for more entertaining discussions and animal-themed humor in upcoming episodes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Greg Cote on Terry Rozier's Performance:
  "Nobody except Jamal Ashburn has ever been good in a Charlotte uniform." (03:25)

• Marcus Jordan's Mock Statement:
  "I'm Marcus Jordan. I'm Michael Jordan's side. I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just trying to get home. And I made a wrong turn." (05:50)

• Ron McGill on Mavericks' Trade Reaction:
  "If you got them all on truth serum, right? You never have to experience what you will." (22:52)

• Chris Cote on Animal Videos:
  "I just got back from the Galapagos Island. I was surrounded by about 20 hammerheads just circling above, not doing anything." (33:07)

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully blends sports commentary with comedic skits and engaging animal segments, offering listeners a dynamic and entertaining experience.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network.

[Stugatz]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's up? I just bought and financed a car through Carvana in minutes.

[Mike Ryan]

You, the person who agonized four weeks.

[Greg Cote]

Over whether to paint your walls eggshell.

[Mike Ryan]

Or off white, bought and financed a car in minutes.

[Dan LeBatard]

They made it easy. Transparent terms, customizable, down and monthly. Didn't even have to do any paperwork.

[Chris Cote]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

Mm.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hey, have you checked out that spreadsheet I sent you for our dinner?

[Mike Ryan]

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[Stugatz]

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[Greg Cote]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Ron McGill is supposed to be here shortly. We've got some funny video and audio mavs related to play you but it doesn't happen very often where we go to break and Stu Gotz, his mother bleeping himself because of a missed opportunity. So I will say it again. Walter Payton played the entirety of his career wearing no socks, barefooted inside of the cleats because he liked how it felt to run that way.

[Billy Corben]

Feet ness. It's right there for me.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was. It was right there for you. Let's get to that mav sound and let's get to Mike Ryan getting to take a victory lap on Terry Rozier. Can we set up, please, the victory lap for Mike Ryan so that he can take it in the other room and celebrate what is one of the most unpopular players in Heat history? And this is as right as Mike Ryan has ever been about anything. Because is this the sound we've been looking for? The sound? Is this the sound from his first the news? You learning the news for the first time, or is this you circling back around with your general hatred for Rosier?

[Ron McGill]

This is when the rumors were circulating that Terry Rozier was a possibility for the Miami Heat. Something that sent a chill down my spine. But keep in mind, we had Kyle Lowry on our roster at that moment in time, too. So I was put in a very difficult position.

[Dan LeBatard]

I am told that Genesis right now is working on people in the victory lap room. I think you should go anyway and go ahead and see what you do about a victory lap in there. Get him a micro microphone, set up that room around Genesis, who's working on people. And in the interim, let's go back in time so that people understand Terry Rozier is an inefficient player. The only time I've seen Terry Rozier be good is in Charlotte, and he wasn't, because Charlotte wasn't any good. And he just got a giant usage rate. And there are a lot of NBA players who could put up those numbers with that usage rate.

[Billy Corben]

So the time you saw him be good, he wasn't good.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's correct.

[Billy Corben]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right.

[Billy Corben]

I just want to clear that up.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right. Because I will say this flatly. Nobody except Jamal Ashburn has ever been good in a Charlotte uniform. Now, you're going to come back with Alonzo Mourning and maybe Anthony Mason, but I'm just going to stick to my gut.

[Billy Corben]

Good.

[Chris Cote]

It's.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's. And I know. I know Lamelo is good, but he's not good because he plays for them and they're not good. And that franchise has a history of irrelevancy that is staggering to have near the father of Marcus Jordan. Speaking of which, I'm going to get to this sound from the police because it felt like Stugatz being arrested if he were Michael Jordan's son. It's some of the stuff Stugatz would do if he was either coked out or drunk and talking to a police officer trying to get out of an arrest.

[Stugatz]

Who told you Walter Payton didn't wear socks? Because, like, I'm seeing lots of pictures of him playing football wearing socks.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. I will tell you that in. Later in the show. Remind me. Remind me.

[Stugatz]

Attached to the racism.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, remind me about that, too.

[Billy Corben]

Racism and socks.

[Dan LeBatard]

Remind me. Because they're tied together in a way that is interesting. Yes. In a way that you would not think so. Yes. But I don't want to spoil any of the information that I'm gonna give you later in the show, but I am promising that before the end of the show today, I will tell you the story of me being racist in New Orleans. Can you play the sound, please?

[Billy Corben]

And the so.

[Dan LeBatard]

And that as well. Can you play the sound of Marcus Jordan? And I don't know, like, I think it's probably reckless to suggest that anyone has a cocaine problem. But if I were looking for identifying marks, being caught doing cocaine in public by a pool, there's video evidence of that. I don't know how hard it is to be Michael Jordan's son. I imagine in some ways it's easy. In some ways, it is very hard. It's super unusual to be in a position where you end up dating your father's ex teammate's ex wife, which is what he was famously doing with Larsa.

[Stugatz]

Larsa Pippen.

[Greg Cote]

They have broken up.

[Billy Corben]

They broke up.

[Greg Cote]

She's not in this video because they did.

[Billy Corben]

Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

So. But this is. This is Marcus Jordan doing, I think, what stugats would do if he was arrested with cocaine and was Michael Jordan's son.

[Marcus Jordan]

I'm Marcus Jordan. I'm Michael Jordan's side. I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just trying to get home. And I made a wrong turn.

[Chris Cote]

Okay.

[Marcus Jordan]

And clearly, we would just like to get our car off of the train track, which we were not trying to be on.

[Chris Cote]

But that's why I had to get you out of the car. Okay.

[Ron McGill]

Because I hear spinning tires.

[Dan LeBatard]

I hear slurred speech from you. You're driving on train tracks.

[Marcus Jordan]

I'm not slurring anything, and I'm okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm letting you know I have concerns.

[Marcus Jordan]

I appreciate that.

[Chris Cote]

I can't let you back behind the.

[Tony]

Car and drive a vehicle.

[Marcus Jordan]

I. I appreciate your concerns.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't want.

[Marcus Jordan]

But I am not inebriated. I'm not anything that cannot drive home.

[Dan LeBatard]

904-640.

[Marcus Jordan]

The thing is, I'm not familiar with this area. I made a right. I thought I was making a right onto the highway. I made it right onto train track.

[Dan LeBatard]

Where did you turn it, man?

[Marcus Jordan]

I wish. I wish I could tell you, but.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think at some point in there, he also said that the car was worth $300,000. Right. I think that we cut that out. Somebody told me that I had not heard the sound myself, so somebody check on that to make sure that I don't have that wrong. Because that's not something I've confirmed. I'm just speaking here live and unedited, and I haven't checked.

[Billy Corben]

I got to be honest, he didn't drop the MJ name enough. I mean, my every answer to every question would have been Michael. I'm Michael son.

[Ron McGill]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

I'm MJ son. Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

I'm number 23 son. Yeah.

[Tony]

Have you heard whose son I am?

[Billy Corben]

Where'd you turn? I'm Air Jordan's son.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Greg Cote]

Was that Jordan Street?

[Tony]

Plus, you gotta have a photo of dad in your wallet.

[Stugatz]

You have to.

[Chris Cote]

You.

[Greg Cote]

You have this thing with photos in your wall.

[Tony]

I know. Everybody should have photos and that's not something people do.

[Greg Cote]

He made fun of me the other day because I have my. Like all my money is attached to my phone. And he's just like laughing at me and he's like, you should have a trifold. And he pulls out this like thick wallet.

[Stugatz]

Trifolds.

[Tony]

He's got a wallet attached to his phone, this guy. Unbelievable.

[Billy Corben]

That's not a wallet. Yeah, it's not a wallet.

[Tony]

It's not a wallet.

[Billy Corben]

It's not.

[Stugatz]

What's next?

[Tony]

There's a phone.

[Ron McGill]

It.

[Stugatz]

That's right. Freddy's on it.

[Billy Corben]

But in this case, the picture would have been proof. So Greg is right, right? Yes, right. Oh, you don't believe me.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's not really proof because I can have that in my wallet.

[Billy Corben]

Photo.

[Tony]

I mean, it's a picture of Marcus and. And dad with their arms around each other's shoulders, ducking it up. You know, a joke turkey. A jovial photo.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Tony]

Singing songs together. Perhaps caroling, the two of.

[Stugatz]

Perhaps.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, perhaps caroling.

[Tony]

Yeah, the two of them. Because they're close, they're tight. Yeah, he's not just dropping a name. It's dad.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, let me ask a couple of questions here.

[Tony]

Are.

[Dan LeBatard]

Are you of the opinion. Are you of the belief that most people are still using wallets? Because I will tell you, every time I pull out my wallet, they make fun of me here for having a wallet.

[Tony]

Right? Yeah. I'm sitting on my wallet right now. I reassuring to feel your ass.

[Greg Cote]

And the wallets also back problems.

[Tony]

Yeah, well, you know, it's normal.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the Problems at Lebatard show. Do you own a wallet at Le Batard show? When he talks about a bad back. Chris, do you realize, I don't know when else your father is doing this, but your father today in the other room made the old man sound that I believe is unique to old men getting up from and sitting down on the couch. It's the same sound. I imagine he makes it a urinal. I imagine when everything. When everything releases, it is just an old man sound. And I think it's the exclusive domain of people over 50 with a bad back who sit on their wallet.

[Greg Cote]

Think of when you think. When I think of my dad making the sound you just described, he says a sentence that can come off as sexual. So I don't. I'm a little uncomfortable delivering it, but he'll. This is how I picture my dad getting up from a couch.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, that's the one.

[Greg Cote]

He's a big. That's the one.

[Tony]

That's sexual.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Greg Cote]

I'm just saying the way you. That's the one.

[Tony]

Yeah. Of course I do.

[Greg Cote]

But like, you'll say for any getting up, getting out of the car, that's the one.

[Tony]

Well, it's a, you know, it's a sense of accomplishment.

[Stugatz]

Right.

[Tony]

When you either sit down or get up, you know, you feel like you've done something.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the Pollard show, put it on the poll. Are you in such bad shape that it's a sense of accomplishment?

[Tony]

It is.

[Dan LeBatard]

When you sit down or get up.

[Tony]

From something, people ask me, do you exercise? I'm like, yes, I get up and down probably 20 times a day.

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[Tony]

Don LeBatard I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public. Stugats don't do it.

[Stugatz]

This is the Dan lebatar Show with the Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

A lot of people were making fun Stugatz of the Wired for sound of LeBron last night with Luka telling him, stop trying to fit in, fit out, fit out well. And Kevin Love, or the guy who memes for Kevin Love, because Pablo Torre alleges that Kevin Love has a Guy had a. Had a funny meme of like, someone punching the air, frustrated because he once told Kevin Love to fit in. Right? And Kevin Love was just dying to hear fit out. I just think that LeBron doesn't have to tell Luca to fit in or fit out. Just be fit is all it is that he. That he needs Luca to do. But I'm told that Mike Ryan is now in the other room. Before we go to Mike Ryan to take his victory lap, can you just play the sound, Chris, The Terry Rozier sound as soon as this happened or right before it happened. Mike Ryan's been telling you for a really long time he did not want Terry Rosier on this team. And this is before Terry Rozier was acquired. Mike Ryan threatened the Miami Heat organization.

[Ron McGill]

I do not like Terry Rozier. If the trade is Kyle Lowry for Terry Rosier, what the Miami Heat are doing is moving my least favorite player of all time for my second least favorite player of all time. I am public in my desire to not ever have Terry Rosier on this team. Thank you.

[Stugatz]

Jeremy seemed very excited about this move, and Mike seemed very not excited about this room. So there's, like, a wide ranging spectrum of how to break down this. This trade.

[Greg Cote]

Am I allowed to give my opinion or am I a homer?

[Dan LeBatard]

You're a homer. And, Mike, it is your turn now to do this victory lap. Genesis is very hard at work. Who is she working on right now?

[Ron McGill]

She's got Lewis right now. It's a bit of a hazard to. To try to pull off this bit because I'm, like, this close to stepping on his ear, but maybe I step on his back and actually help the process. But, yeah, Terry Rozier stinks. But the thing is, he always has. And I had the foresight to just read box scores and tell you that he's a very inefficient player. And the Miami Heat did not have this magic wand that they could just keep replicating this. Even Deion Waiters. We talked ourselves into him. He was a fitter. Deion Waiters, he is a bad basketball player presently being investigated for throwing a basketball game or at least affecting his own props. I still. I'm being told that he's a very bad basketball player. Somehow even worse. But I am still effectively boycotting this team after that acquisition. I couldn't be happier knowing that this team is exactly what I thought it would be and knowing that I don't have to waste any of my precious time watching it. Back to you, Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, thank you. But keep doing that. Because I'd like to go back to you to more analysis when you're more winded. Because I think this is funny. Funnier if. Yes, I do love.

[Billy Corben]

Go back in 30 seconds.

[Greg Cote]

You're so obsessed.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, well, that's the joke. Otherwise. Otherwise, it's less funny. As an audio experience, executive producer of this show, as an audio experience, a winded cast member trying to give points that are less good than they would normally be. Because it's hard to give takes when you're tired.

[Greg Cote]

You better laugh when we finally nail that fatigue.

[Dan LeBatard]

You say it's going to be funny of us all. And I will say that as soon as it becomes funny, I'll tell you. I'll let you know. But no one's done it right since we started it. Like, it's not that hard. You have to be tired and winded in order for it to work.

[Stugatz]

So it's not that the bit isn't working, it's that no one's done it right.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's correct. That is absolutely right.

[Stugatz]

I do like our commitment to getting it right.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not the system, it's the players. That's right.

[Billy Corben]

It's not Dan's fault.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's correct. It's on my system. I didn't create the system. Let's go back out to Mike Ryan to hear how much more he hates Terry Rozier.

[Ron McGill]

You know, I take a victory lap on never liking this bit. I never thought it would be funny. And yet the person that is still resolute is the person that is the one that's sending people into this. But I can say wholeheartedly this bit doesn't work out at all. And I'm taking a victory lap. A winded one.

[Stugatz]

Trust the process.

[Ron McGill]

Hilly winded.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're disrespecting home.

[Ron McGill]

The fact that I never thought this was going to be funny and somehow I'm more right about this than I was on Terry Rose here. Oh, God, I'm so tired.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, let's get to this math sound. Yes, better. Thank you. That works better. Stay there, though, and keep running and I'll come back to you in a second. Let's. In the interim, let's get to this mav sound here first. Let's get to the chanting involved because this is not a chant. I have heard very often where there are death threats, where it is that you've got a. You've got a home security detail that is now required Stugatz, because of everything that's happening in. In Dallas, where the curse of Luca has officially taken over because now multiple players are getting hurt. They've lost almost their entire front line except for lively. Anthony Davis comes out, gives you a first half of 30 points, 9 for 13, and immediately gets hurt. And it ends up being out for weeks. So let's play the sound that we have of the Mavs fans who are protesting. They are. They are chanting. A chant that I am not used to hearing near death threats. Let's hear that. That's right. Bring him back. He's not fat.

[Greg Cote]

Is that our listeners? When I was let go, what was that?

[Billy Corben]

I mean, he is fat.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, he's not Chris.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, he's fat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris or Luca?

[Billy Corben]

Luca and Chris.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bring him back. He's not fat.

[Tony]

Great chance.

[Greg Cote]

It does rhyme.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right. And. And there are do dozens of people holding up signs and. And who's that guy on the right? What's he dressed as? What is he going for?

[Greg Cote]

No idea.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Are those goggles that he is wearing? Is he dressed like a rooster? A chicken? Is it because the. Is it because the Mavs are chickens for trading Luca?

[Billy Corben]

I mean, I don't know. I'm saying it like I know, but I don't know. It just seems it stands to read.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's read the signs here. Judas, Benedict, Brutus, Nico. Lines have been crossed.

[Tony]

Oh, that's my favorite. It's mysteriously vague. I love it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Freeze that so that I can please read some more of those signs. Fire Nico. That's an obvious one. That's an easy one to write in your. In your magic marker.

[Stugatz]

Dirk handed Luca the torch. Nico blew it out.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's go back to a sweaty Mike Ryan to check in and hear with how. Here from Mike Ryan on how right he was about Terry Rose.

[Ron McGill]

So I. So miscalculation on my part. I've recently lost some weight, so I haven't needed the nipple stickers as much. But I'm wearing a hockey jersey, and it is really chafing up my nipples right now. I've got these Swedish crowns on each one of them, and it's not a nice sight. But I will take another victory lap, though. I was told that I don't know ball because I said Anthony Davis is always injured, and everybody that has been watching the NBA since the Miami Heat acquired Terry Rozier told me he's actually pretty healthy. That's a bygone era. That's an old take, Scott. We were right. Anthony Davis, he can't say healthy.

[Greg Cote]

Yeah.

[Ron McGill]

They traded Luka Doncic because they were worried about his Fitness and traded for Anthony Davis in return. We were right about that, bud.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I was right about that. I don't want to take a victory lap though, because.

[Ron McGill]

Because if it doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't work. All I have is cheap nipples which I will not show on air.

[Tony]

Is that Tony on the left?

[Greg Cote]

That is not Tony.

[Billy Corben]

It looks like Tony though.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

It's a good call by you.

[Tony]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Greg Cote]

So after the fans outside chanting, he's not fat, he's fat, bring him back, whatever that thing they were chanting, not that.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's not what they would.

[Greg Cote]

So now we are in the arena and this fan gets kicked out first. What he has is a sign. It's. It's harmless. Fire Nico. Yeah, I mean, are you not allowed to do that? And then they're having a dance cam later in the game and the same fan, this is a rookie move by whoever's producing this because the guy with the sign, they show him later on the dance cam and he mouths, fire Nico. And that was the last straw. And then you cut to moments later, him getting walked out while getting booed by the crowd. It was just not a great look for the Mavericks ownership.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you guys realize that so much happened over the weekend in sports that we glossed over without even thinking about it? The fact that, and this doesn't happen a lot in the NBA, John Morant's dad got kicked out of a game. Got kicked out of a game for complaining about the officiating and doing so. I'm going to say benignly, even though he was claiming that the game was fixed. Like, I guess that's not benign when you've got the father of NBA royalty saying it about your officiating.

[Billy Corben]

But fire Nico is right. Like those fans do not deserve to be thrown out of a game for being fans. They're not happy with the move that Nico made. They took a 25 year old generational talent who, who took them to the finals a year ago and they traded them to the LA Lakers. Why would fans be okay with that? When you factor in that Anthony Davis gave you the full Anthony Davis experience. Best player in the world for a half and he gets hurt walking and he's out for eight weeks. I mean, that is Anthony Davis in a nutshell. And why can't fans walk in to their place of work where they're paying their good hard earned money and say, hey, I want to fire the GM without getting thrown out by the organization. Terrible job by the Mavericks. Terrible.

[Tony]

He ain't wrong. I Mean, you spend money for a ticket, you should be able to express yourself.

[Billy Corben]

Fire Nico is benign.

[Tony]

It's not exactly benign, but Greg.

[Billy Corben]

So wasn't there a part of the story where Mark Cuban is cursing back at those fans, telling them to sit the bleep down? Like, what are the Mavericks doing? What are they doing to their fans who care so much that they would bring a lame, ridiculous sign into the arena to say, fire the gm? Those are fans that care. Those are fans that you want to be. Your fans.

[Tony]

Yeah, I particularly enjoy the chant. They'll bring him back. As if there's any mechanism by which that could happen or would.

[Greg Cote]

Like Nico's. Like, you know what? They bring up a good right.

[Billy Corben]

I'm going to get him back. Here's Anthony Davis. He's hurt. He's out for eight weeks. And I have Luka back.

[Tony]

We've changed our mind about that deal. Hello, Los Angeles. Hello.

[Ron McGill]

Do you think they would if they had an opportunity? The league said, you know what? Wow, it's not fair. You can undo it.

[Chris Cote]

Do you think they would a take back?

[Greg Cote]

We're giving them a take.

[Dan LeBatard]

You think they underestimated the reaction?

[Ron McGill]

Yes.

[Tony]

Oh, I do.

[Billy Corben]

The Lakers don't have a say in this. It's just the Mavs.

[Ron McGill]

If you got them all on truth serum, right? You never have to experience what you will. Just go back to two weeks ago, pal. You never have to do this. They would absolutely hit that button.

[Dan LeBatard]

But that would suggest, though, that they thought or they didn't know what the backlash would be. And I've got to assume that they would know what the backlash would be, that they would know almost better than us what the backlash would be. As people who know who their customers are, as people who know what he means to that region, as people who are more emotionally invested in the result than we are.

[Ron McGill]

New ownership group, they don't have their finger on that pulse the way that Mark Cuban did. We know for a fact Mark Cuban would have never done this.

[Billy Corben]

If Anthony Davis doesn't get hurt, are they still protesting outside?

[Ron McGill]

I think even if Anthony Davis stays healthy, they still go back because they totally miscalculated this reaction from their fan base.

[Stugatz]

Does Palinki get to wear his jacket to another event or was that just the event for that jacket?

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cote]

Well, I've been looking for my phone for.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

All of them.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Tony]

Today Don Lebatard the Elephant went into a 711 and bought a pack of cigarettes. But my question to Ron is this.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats. That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to, did it? We all just stared at it.

[Stugatz]

This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.

[Billy Corben]

Foreign.

[Dan LeBatard]

McGill joins us now as he has for many weeks. Many years. Many years now, many weeks regularly. But he's missed some recently and busy guy. Well, our audience gets mad when they don't get their fix of Ron McGill. I will tell the people and I can't give you total details right now, but Ron is ready very soon to for our audience only unretire the most popular thing he's done in his zoo career, which is Sex and the Animals. His Sex and the Animals presentation. He's going to do it for our fans shortly. We will have more news on that front in a While. But I want to play some videos here for Ron. Welcome, Ron. Thank you for being on with us. I want to show you first here a dog that is retaliating here, evidently for being hit with snowball. Can we play, please, this video for Ron McGill and have him do a little bit of play by play for us?

[Chris Cote]

Oh, yeah. Gonna give me the snowball. Take this. How about that?

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. I thought that video would be a lot better. I think that over the course of the week, people who are gathering these things, I think what they should put at the top is video that's slightly better than that. That allows us to have Ron McGill do some stuff with the videos that is more entertaining than that. Let's go to a sleeping. I. I want to know what animal this is because this is not an animal I am very familiar with. Does anyone in here know what this animal is? Are you guys familiar with this animal that is being awakened here by.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, it's a baby capybara.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. It looks a bit like a guinea pig. Are you guys familiar with what it is that this is?

[Chris Cote]

It's the world's largest rodent. Except that's a baby. And that's a. That's a grackle that's trying to harass it and it's being annoying, like many birds can be sometimes. But that's a baby capybara, which is really cool. It's the world's largest rodent found in, you know, tropical America and actually eaten by many people because they consider it a delicacy.

[Dan LeBatard]

And when you say the world's largest rodent, how large do they get?

[Chris Cote]

A big adult, over £50.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, wow. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Do you believe there is such a thing as a 50 pound rodent? Yes or no? Know, I feel like I've seen those in New York. What happened? No, I'm not even talking about the people. I'm not even kidding. No, I'm not talking about the people. I'm talking about what I see at 4am when the rodents know there aren't people in the streets of New York. And I'm looking down the street and what the shadow seems like a horse of some sort. And it's just a giant rat.

[Billy Corben]

4:00Am in New York.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right, 4:00am in New York. That's the only time they come out. That is, you will not see them at another time. Not the 50 pound ones.

[Chris Cote]

I think the point is, what are you doing out at 4am in the area?

[Dan LeBatard]

I think everybody knows is it didn't answer. I think you all know. What would you guess?

[Tony]

I don't know. You've been swimming in the Hudson.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, that's my guess is that he.

[Chris Cote]

Just doesn't sleep because I get, I get texts from him and emails from him at 3:45am I don't know what thing.

[Tony]

Yeah, he's a vampire leitar. Yeah, I can't prove that. But somebody who doesn't sleep keeps odd hours up at 4:00am looking at £50. You know, rodents. I mean, a dampire. That's, that's vampire behavior. Damn Pire. I like it.

[Dan LeBatard]

The most famous vampire There is is 12 and one in the big East. And when they asked him the other day, they asked him the other day, what would you have said to us if we had told you you'd be 12 and one in the big East? His answer is, how do we lose the bleep in one? He's back, baby.

[Tony]

Oh, he is.

[Dan LeBatard]

Here in Coral Gables. He is solid guard play.

[Billy Corben]

Don't be surprised if the Johnny's find themselves in the elite eight.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, let's, let's look at this bird here. You guys tell me what the hell this is because this is also something I have not seen. Ron, have you ever Frog mouth. A what?

[Chris Cote]

They're called a frogmouth. You know, it's. See how it opens its mouth. The beak is actually very small. The, the keratin part of the beak is very small. They blend in with trees really well. That's not a good example because he's on a, you know, fence post right there. But they just will stay totally still on the top of a, you know, a tree or a fence post, something like that. And they look like a piece of wood. They're fantastic. They feed primarily on insects. They're harmless, they can't do any harm to you. But they open their mouths when they're threatened like that. And they tend to make people think twice before you get much closer.

[Dan LeBatard]

How rare are they? Have you seen one? You've seen those in the wild?

[Chris Cote]

I have, I have, yeah. It's just most people don't see them because they blend in with their surroundings very well. This guy's really standing out because he's not in the best spot to use his camouflage. But like I say, they're primarily nocturnal. They're insect, insect eaters. They open their mouths. Why are they like that? To catch flying insects as they're flying through the air.

[Dan LeBatard]

That looks like something that a cartoonist would draw.

[Chris Cote]

Well, you know, let me tell you something. You look at some of these animals. I don't know if you guys saw that video. I'm surprised you haven't pulled it up yet. Of that deep sea anglerfish that they found in videotape. It was on the news. It was unbelievable. This thing looks like a drawing out of your worst nightmare. And it's a living, breathing thing on this planet, you know, normally found thousands of feet below the earth ocean surface. But they got some incredible video of one that had come up to the surface and was swimming around. Hey, you guys need to find that and look at it and tell me if it doesn't look like something that was drawn by some kid who's having a massive nightmare.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can you tell us how rare, strange this is? There is a shark here, and you're always telling us that sharks aren't as dangerous as they're made out to be by people who fear sharks. But what is happening here with an aquarium water dancer's head and a shark.

[Chris Cote]

Aquarium water dancer's head. Oh, yeah, that's not a shark. First of all. That's not a shark.

[Dan LeBatard]

What is that?

[Billy Corben]

That's a fine.

[Chris Cote]

You know, I. I don't. I don't know exactly what it is these days. I can't even tell whether the stuff is AI or not. But I can tell you that's not a shark. Because a shark grabs somebody's head like that and there'll be a lot of blood coming out. So that's not what that was. Looks like it might have been some type of grouper, some type of, you know, Goliath group or something like that. But I don't. I don't actually know to be that size. Yeah, it needs to be something like a Goliath Cooper. And I'm just. I'm just actually thinking that that's AI Guys, I don't believe that video.

[Ron McGill]

No, you don't. You don't think the video is real? I've seen it in action. It was definitely not a shark. But otherwise.

[Chris Cote]

I saw the video in action too. But. But, Mike, man, I've seen some videos done by AI these days that are just even eyes, you know, quote, unquote. An expert of wildlife will look at it go, God, what is that? I mean, is that real? And then, you know, I've got someone admit to me, no, no, it's. It's A.I. we did it in A.I. i go, man, this stuff is really good. So, you know, I don't know what to tell you guys anymore. That I don't know whether that's real or not. It's certainly not a shark. If it's anything, it's like a, you know, Goliath group or something like that. But I've never, trust me, if a fish took in a woman's head like that at that, she would not be swimming away like she did like that.

[Ron McGill]

Ron, you know my stance on sharks. Hate the damn things.

[Chris Cote]

Think they're bad, you know, Mike, they're all. You gotta stop perpetuating that myth about sharks. I just got back from the Galapagos Island. I was swimming and was surrounded by about 20 hammerheads just circling above, not doing anything. I was in pure awe of watching this looking up and seeing these rays of sunlight come through. These sharks as they just quietly surf, you know, circled around. It was, it was actually peaceful. It was, it was, it was like a Zen moment for me.

[Ron McGill]

Iran, it only takes being wrong once when it comes to sharks. So I hope for your sake you're not, but I hate the damn thing.

[Chris Cote]

It'd be the same thing with a dog.

[Ron McGill]

When a dog's in the water, the lifeguard doesn't yell dog. Yeah, that's how I know I'm alright. Okay, everyone out. Yeah, yeah. When the dog's in water, everyone takes their cameras out.

[Chris Cote]

Okay?

[Ron McGill]

When there's a shark in the water, they yell shark. That's not a good sign. It's not, it's not, it's not.

[Chris Cote]

Put it on the pole.

[Ron McGill]

If you're an animal and they yell your name out loud, are you dangerous?

[Chris Cote]

I would not purposely go swimming with a shark. Okay, but because you see one is not a reason to panic is what I'm saying.

[Ron McGill]

Okay, what if I see a great white? Because my question is they're tagging massive great whites off the coast of Florida near Jacksonville. All of a sudden we got orcas down here. Are they chasing food? Are we now living in a state where we got orcas and great white sharks just off our coast? I don't like this one bit.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, Mike, okay, let me put this in perspective for you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

They're tracking all these great whites up and down the Florida coast. When was the last time you heard of a great white shark bite up or down the Florida coast? And think about the thousands of people that are swimming on the beaches up and down the Florida coast. We've already proven that these great whites are swimming up and down the Florida coast. And yet, whoa. There's no great white shark attack on the Florida coast. Now on the other hand, how many people are driving cars? How Many people are walking around. How many people are killed by cars every day?

[Ron McGill]

Oh, Ron, I'm not wrong here. I'm just early.

[Greg Cote]

If there was a shark in the ocean, if there was a car in the ocean, I would yell car.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, yeah, probably.

[Billy Corben]

Car.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

That's your contribution, Chris. Hold on.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on, hold on.

[Billy Corben]

Okay. No way.

[Dan LeBatard]

Minor penalty.

[Greg Cote]

Two minutes for adding nothing.

[Stugatz]

For who?

[Greg Cote]

Ron.

[Stugatz]

Ron's the guest.

[Dan LeBatard]

It would be jarring if there was a car in the ocean.

[Greg Cote]

Car. Be caring.

[Billy Corben]

Be.

[Dan LeBatard]

Car. Hey, there we go.

[Stugatz]

Ron, if you could. If you could lie to the guests of Zoo Miami and you have, like, a. An animal there via AI like you have an exhibit, and the animal's not really there, but it's presented in a way in which it seems as though the animal is actually there. People come from around the world to come see the. This AI animal. What animal would you have on display?

[Chris Cote]

Thylacine.

[Tony]

Who?

[Chris Cote]

A thylacine.

[Stugatz]

What's that?

[Chris Cote]

T H Y L I C I N E I believe.

[Dan LeBatard]

What is that?

[Chris Cote]

It's a carnivorous marsupial that became extinct, I think, in the mid-1900s, early 1900s. It's got, like, a tiger striped back. It's got the head of, like, a coyote. It was an incredible animal until it was hunted to oblivion. But they still believe that there may be some existing in the wild of Australia, New Zealand. And I think if someone were to find one, it would be, like, incredible. That would be a believable thing. Like, if I said, oh, you know, we've got a Tyrannosaurus rex here.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, that would be.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, but people are going, you don't have a taranis. But they said, hey, we found a thylacine. And because it's kind of been a mysterious thing, whether it's still alive or not, the last one was seen in the 1930s or 40s. That would be kind of cool, right?

[Stugatz]

This thylacine seems very fakeable. Like, you just paint stripes on a dog, you know, like, look at that thing that anyone can be a thylacine.

[Greg Cote]

I don't like that thing one bit.

[Stugatz]

Right? Yeah, you can fake that. Get Jesse over there. Jesse, our makeup artist could go over there and give you 10,000 thylacines if that's what you want, Ron. Geez, boring.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not that impressive, actually, to look at visually. And Ron is furious, and he's just.

[Billy Corben]

Why does he come back?

[Stugatz]

Why do you guys have koalas? All they do is sleep all day. I mean, give me Something with a little pizzazz. Put on a show. You know what I mean? If you're gonna encaptivate these animals, put them behind a glass, have them do something.

[Chris Cote]

Is that a word, encaptivate?

[Stugatz]

I don't know. You're the one doing it, not me. I'm just going. Trying to fund the animals in the arts. And we're just watching koalas sleep all day and give people. What is it, syphilis?

[Chris Cote]

They give people, Ron, you know? No, it's chlamydia. And they don't give it to people. That's what kills them. They don't give it to people unless you're doing really wrong stuff. With koalas.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sex and the animals. He's bringing it out of retirement in a couple of months. It's sex and the animals. It's not sex with the animals. Sex with the animals that with. Is dangerous.

[Chris Cote]

It's illegal in the state of Florida. I think.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think it's illegal in all the states. Is it?

[Chris Cote]

Well, unfortunately, it's not.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not.

[Chris Cote]

No, it's not illegal in all the states.

[Greg Cote]

Research sex with animals should be talking.

[Dan LeBatard]

What are the states that are. Let's move there. Let's move the show.

[Stugatz]

Valentine's Day is right, guys.

[Chris Cote]

Research it. Research it. You will see that reality is actually not illegal in a couple of states.

[Stugatz]

Wow.

[Greg Cote]

All right. Illinois, baby.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll at Le Batard show. Is bestiality illegal in all the states?

[Greg Cote]

As of June 2021, Hawaii, New Mexico, West Virginia, and Wyoming did not have laws against bestiality.

[Stugatz]

Okay, so, Ron, let's say you go to Wyoming. It's Valentine's Day.

[Billy Corben]

Hawaii is shocked.

[Stugatz]

What animal are we looking at there, Ronnie?

[Chris Cote]

Oh, God, I don't know how we go down this rabbit hole. Oh, that's a wrong term.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not a rabbit hole. That is not.

[Greg Cote]

Well, how's your rabbit?

[Chris Cote]

Oh, geez. Listen, guys, really. You know, the bottom line is, though, in those states, though, bestiality, as it's said, is legal. What is. It can be legal. What is illegal. And they. Him.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're rattled. You're. You're rattled since you went down that rabbit hole and realized that that's not the phrase you should be using.

[Billy Corben]

Ron, Ron, Ron, if you. If you may let me try this a different way. Which animal? Which animal would you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, he's never subtle.

[Greg Cote]

Let's.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's.

[Ron McGill]

You know how many kids. Don't answer that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Don't answer.

[Chris Cote]

Kids, write me and you come out with that.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, don't answer that. You know what? Let's give it.

[Billy Corben]

I was trying a different.

[Dan LeBatard]

He brought it up.

[Billy Corben]

Brought it up. I didn't bring it up. He brought it up.

[Chris Cote]

I didn't bring any.

[Billy Corben]

Minor penalty.

[Greg Cote]

Two minutes for adding nothing.

[Billy Corben]

Wyoming messing up Hawaii.

[Chris Cote]

You guys, listen to this thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

One more video for Ron. Let's take a look at this. Is. This is on a coast here. And this is not something that I've seen before where there is a camel.

[Chris Cote]

Camels that appears taking a dip in.

[Dan LeBatard]

The ocean though, right? This is like, what is that? How often? How. How rare is that?

[Chris Cote]

That. It's not rare if the camel's hot. I mean, it's just a matter of helping thermoregulate its body temperature. You know, the same reason we would go into the ocean. Camels will do it if the ocean is available to them. Now, most camels are not in an area where they're there by the coast, by the ocean, but this camel is probably one of the, you know, a working animal and was brought down there by his. By his partner there and given the opportunity to cool off. It's. It's a great, great option, just like it is with people. Might this water is a cooling factor.

[Greg Cote]

Might this be a camel with a shy bladder and he's just like, I'm embarrassed to pee, so I'm gonna go and like. And then dip in the water and just. You ever.

[Chris Cote]

Is that what you do, Chris? Is that what you do?

[Greg Cote]

I've done it at the beach.

[Stugatz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Okay. I'm learning a lot more than I care to learn on this.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll, please. Juju, do you pee in the ocean at Lebatard show? And given everything that we've just been talking about, I just want to ask a follow up. Do you think that camel is hot?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, that camel was definitely warm and it was just cooling off. It's just. It's. It's. But hot. Just like people.

[Greg Cote]

But look at those curves, Ron.

[Stugatz]

Yeah, the humps.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, okay. I just got it. I'm sorry. I went over my head because I'm not as far down as you guys are humping it. That's my contribution.

[Greg Cote]

That lack of subtlety was funny.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you. Well, yeah. Yes. It's more subtle than what Stugats did. That's correct.

[Ron McGill]

They do spit a lot.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you, Ron. Yes, that's right. Good seeing you.

[Chris Cote]

I apologize to the great listeners who send me those wonderful emails about how they learned so much in this segment. I apologize.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm sorry. Yes.

[Ron McGill]

Original hawk Tua.

[Dan LeBatard]

See you later.

[Stugatz]

It's a zebra.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bye Ron. Good talking to you again. I tell the people, please support his substantive endowment.

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