Hour 1: Guy Don't Wanna Urn (feat. Katie Nolan)

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Hour 1: Guy Don't Wanna Urn (feat. Katie Nolan)" from The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Release Date: January 22, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Guest: Katie Nolan

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1. Introduction and Episode Overview

The episode begins with Dan Le Batard and Stugotz setting the stage for an engaging discussion filled with sports insights, humor, and personal anecdotes. Special guest Katie Nolan joins the conversation, bringing her unique perspective to the mix.

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2. Nikola Jokic’s Unprecedented Basketball Dominance

[01:24 - 07:35]

Greg Cody kicks off the episode with a deep dive into Nikola Jokic's remarkable performance in basketball, asserting that Jokic is delivering "the greatest offensive basketball that has ever been played by anybody" (01:24). The hosts compare Jokic's stats to those of legendary players like Michael Jordan, highlighting his ability to average 27 points, 13 rebounds, and 10 assists per game.

Greg Cody [01:24]: "Jokic is the greatest offensive basketball that has ever been played by anybody. Ever."

Jessica challenges the notion by questioning the aesthetic appeal of Jokic's gameplay, noting his statistics but expressing that his style isn't as thrilling.

Jessica [03:14]: "He had 27 points, 13 rebounds, 10 assists, one block, four steals last night."

Mike Ryan offers a counterpoint, suggesting that Jokic's dominance may be influenced by factors like playing outside the traditional U.S. leagues and team dynamics.

Mike Ryan [02:57]: "The fact that he is not from the United States... I think that factors in."

The conversation culminates in recognizing Jokic's unique contribution to the sport, emphasizing his all-around game and its impact on the Denver Nuggets' performance.

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3. Cremation Anecdotes and Ashes at Sporting Events

[07:35 - 16:52]

The discussion takes a somber turn as the hosts delve into personal stories and musings about cremation and bringing ashes to sporting events. Greg Cody shares an incident where someone allegedly cut the TSA PreCheck line at an Atlanta game, sparking a conversation about media personnel's behaviors.

Greg Cody [08:07]: "I need to know."

Jessica reveals a personal experience of spreading her grandmother's ashes, adding an emotional layer to the conversation.

Jessica [16:44]: "I felt her support."

The hosts engage in humorous and morbid jokes about post-mortem dental integrity, with playful debates over whether teeth remain intact after cremation.

Mike Ryan [12:00]: "Your teeth are going with you to the grave."

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4. Katie Nolan’s New Podcast "Casuals"

[16:00 - 33:30]

Katie Nolan introduces her new podcast, "Casuals," aimed at sports enthusiasts who aren’t typically engaged with sports podcasts. She explains that the podcast is designed for listeners who understand the basics of sports but seek a more entertaining and relatable take without the traditional "bro-heavy" elements.

Katie Nolan [26:04]: "It's a sports podcast for people who don't listen to sports podcasts."

Katie shares her transition from traditional sports media to creating content that emphasizes humor and human interest, making sports more accessible to a broader audience.

Katie Nolan [28:38]: "I met a lot of cool people through doing this job... So I made Casuals so that we can talk about that kind of stuff."

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5. TSA PreCheck Line Incident Discussion

[33:30 - 37:55]

The hosts continue discussing the TSA PreCheck line incident, speculating on who might be responsible within the media landscape. Katie Nolan humorously denies having ever skipped the TSA line, clarifying her use of the Clear service to expedite security checks.

Katie Nolan [37:03]: "I have the thing where I pay them to let me skip the line called Clear."

Greg Cody and others joke about the logistics and implications of such an incident, blending humor with speculative insights.

Greg Cody [36:36]: "It's a grift. It's not any safer."

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6. Final Banter and Closing Remarks

[37:55 - 42:45]

The episode wraps up with light-hearted conversations, including playful jabs about personal experiences and humorous interactions among the hosts and guest. Discussions range from selling cars to Carvana to mocking announcers' dental features.

Dan LeBatard [42:41]: "Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience."

The hosts encourage listeners to check out Katie Nolan's new podcast, celebrating her contributions and the fresh perspective she brings to the sports media landscape.

Greg Cody [39:42]: "I urge you to check out Casuals because Katie Nolan has good things..."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Greg Cody [01:24]: "Jokic is the greatest offensive basketball that has ever been played by anybody. Ever."

• Jessica [03:14]: "He had 27 points, 13 rebounds, 10 assists, one block, four steals last night."

• Mike Ryan [02:57]: "The fact that he is not from the United States... I think that factors in."

• Katie Nolan [26:04]: "It's a sports podcast for people who don't listen to sports podcasts."

• Dan LeBatard [42:41]: "Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience."

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Conclusion

"Hour 1: Guy Don't Wanna Urn (feat. Katie Nolan)" offers a dynamic blend of sports analysis, personal storytelling, and humor. The introduction of Katie Nolan brings a fresh perspective, aiming to bridge the gap between traditional sports fans and a more casual audience. Throughout the episode, listeners are treated to insightful discussions, witty banter, and relatable anecdotes, encapsulating the essence of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.

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Note: Advertisements and non-content segments have been excluded from this summary to focus on the substantive discussions and key moments of the episode.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugots]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Jessica]

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[Hannah]

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[Greg Cody]

We had at one point some sleepy imaging of us talking about Jokic and the way he's dominating basketball with unprecedented numbers. Numbers that make you bored because his teammates aren't good enough, even though he's won a championship with them and he is playing a form of basketball. I think it can be said without it being shocking or controversial, is the greatest offensive basketball that has ever been played by anybody. Ever. Now, we can argue about defensive metrics and whatever it is that you want to say about Michael Jordan, but the sport of basketball cannot be played better offensively than the way Jokic is playing it. He's the best we've ever seen. We're watching it as it happens. Like, right, we can have whatever it is. Our mythologies are about Michael Jordan, but numerically, empirically, rebounds, assists, field goal percentages from three offensive efficiencies. There's never been anything like it.

[Jessica]

How about rings plus minus? Throw Michael's rings in a box. Throw Jokic his rings in a box. Michael has six. He has one plus five. How about that?

[Greg Cody]

Go ahead and play the imaging. We're going to reverse engineer this thing. Here's a start of the day from that big man, Nicola. Godlike skills put on display, but we're feeling. So it's weird we can agree, right? It's weird that this guy could be so unprecedented, kind of dominant, that you're bored by it.

[Mike Ryan]

I wouldn't say bored. I think the fact that, and I don't mean to be a jingoist, the fact that he is not from the United States, the fact that he's not playing in Boston or Denver or Boston or New York or la, I think that factors in.

[Jessica]

And let's be honest, I mean, he had 27 points, 13 rebounds, 10 assists, one block, four steals last night.

[Mike Ryan]

Average game.

[Jessica]

It's boring though.

[Greg Cody]

Below average game.

[Jessica]

His game, his offensive game is not aesthetically pleasing, let's put it that way. He dunk once in a while.

[Stugots]

He doesn't care. Why should we?

[Jeremy]

He has four straight games with triple doubles and he has not played a single minute in the fourth quarter.

[Jessica]

Those games, one trick Ponytz.

[Greg Cody]

Just so you know, like when you do a dive on the numbers, and I know you guys don't care about this, but when he's on the court, the Denver Nuggets are a historically great basketball team at all times. And the moment he leaves, they're terrible. Like when you do the sample size of the last few years, like if you just get him five minutes of.

[Jessica]

Rest, that's all he needs. Just get him five.

[Greg Cody]

Jessica, what are you doing? It seems like you're trying to stifle a sneeze.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, it's a yawn. This lullaby does something to my brain.

[Jessica]

And Jokic, it is sleepy.

[Dan LeBatard]

I like how he's a one trick pony, but his trick is he does three tricks.

[Stugots]

I think he would love to be a one trick actual pony. Yeah, he loves his name. He would be a pony.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

More than any player in sports. Except maybe Kawhi Leonard. Can I think of somebody who would just rather retired to a life where he was just a retired one trick pony?

[Jessica]

House arrest.

[Greg Cody]

Wandering around, eating bits, just eating bits. And just doing one thing a day very well and leave me alone for the rest of the time.

[Jeremy]

But instead, he's top three in the NBA in points, rebounds and assists per game. And no one's done that since 1969-70 season.

[Jessica]

Attack on a ring, I think.

[Greg Cody]

You know what? Do you realize how weird it is to say what I'm about to say? And I think the audience would not know this superstar well enough to answer my question if I don't make it about whatever he values in dollars. If I just say to you, do you think he'd be Prefer. Prefer to be doing that or just, you know, a shepherd. He just. Just wandering around, being a shepherd who occasionally can go to the local nightclub. Which would he choose as a life? Is he the one guy that you would say, I'm not sure I can answer that question accurately.

[Jessica]

I'm not sure.

[Mike Ryan]

He could quit tomorrow and train horses for a living. He'd be thrilled.

[Jessica]

Now, is he choosing between that and a basketball career? Meaning? Has he played basketball already? Has he made enough money?

[Katie Nolan]

Now?

[Greg Cody]

If you tell him right now.

[Jessica]

You tell him.

[Greg Cody]

You tell him.

[Jessica]

I think he goes shepherd.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, you tell him right now. Would you prefer to keep playing the rest of this season? We got a lot of road trips. You don't really want to go to Memphis, do you? Or be a shepherd.

[Jessica]

Yeah, shepherd. I say that with confidence.

[Greg Cody]

I. I don't know. I can't say anything with confidence. That I can't say it with confidence. Gives me confidence that I can say it with confidence. This is not a question I can pose to anyone else and have it be a reasonable question. We would all like to be. Look, have you not dreamt of going to a t ball game and just kicking everyone's ass? Like, just hitting home runs all over the place, able to throw the ball fully across the diamond?

[Jessica]

I mean, he does have the opportunity right now to go do it.

[Greg Cody]

You're not dreamt of being athletically dominant.

[Stugots]

But why against children if it's a dream? Like, why wouldn't you dream of being athletically dominant over athletes?

[Greg Cody]

Because I can't imagine if you're gonna dream.

[Jessica]

Dream.

[Stugots]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Dream big.

[Stugots]

You could go to a park and beat up children. That's what you want to do.

[Greg Cody]

Absolutely right. My dreams go no higher than a local Y. Like, it starts. It starts at beating up children in a local playground game. And like the. The they don't go to the NBA, my dreams die.

[Jessica]

Why?

[Greg Cody]

Where I'm scoring 16 and making a buzzer beater.

[Stugots]

Careful.

[Mike Ryan]

Are you mocking the kids after you dunk on them?

[Jessica]

Oh, he has to.

[Jeremy]

He's shooting 47 and a half percent from three.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, well, that's the thing. Second in the league, right?

[Jeremy]

He's 56% on open threes. That's insane.

[Greg Cody]

Just lunacy for a person his size. Okay, fair enough. In all regards. You're totally right, Jessica. On all matters here, for the content in general, as it reg excellence for all times. An immortal. But not really. Yeah, because he's a foreigner and because he plays in Denver, the rules are you got to play in my city. And be from here.

[Jessica]

He's got a roadie at Minnesota, at Chicago, at New York, at Philadelphia, at Charlotte.

[Greg Cody]

Doesn't want to be in Minnesota playing tonight. He doesn't want to get on the bus. He doesn't want to walk from the hotel to the team bus today. He'd do it for goats. He'd do it for horses.

[Jessica]

Yeah. More important.

[Greg Cody]

It's weird. It's an odd thing to say. We will not find out, evidently, who skipped the TSA line. That part is really disappointing, I think.

[Mike Ryan]

Very disappointing.

[Greg Cody]

Cody still wants to know, right?

[Mike Ryan]

I need to know. I need to know.

[Hannah]

Jordan Rogers.

[Greg Cody]

It's almost too late. Jessica, how do we get these hints out of you? What is it? What can we do to get some more information here?

[Dan LeBatard]

Their name may have already been guessed.

[Jessica]

Oh, wow. We're not getting it, man.

[Jeremy]

I know I'm right.

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[Mike Ryan]

Do I got here? I got a Magnum condom. We won't get that out.

[Greg Cody]

That's shocking. Stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old.

[Greg Cody]

Right next to the condo.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Forever.

[Stugots]

Never forget it. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugarts.

[Dan LeBatard]

Greg, do you like hard candy?

[Mike Ryan]

It depends on what kind.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's this new hard candy that Progresso has unveiled, and it's for soup lovers. It's soup. Hard candy really tastes like soup. Would you dabble in that?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, no. That sounds awful.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's like a chicken noodle soup flavored. Hard candy. Hard candy.

[Jessica]

Some things are sacred, and soup is one of them. I mean, what are you doing?

[Mike Ryan]

I make a great turkey soup. Oh, I can't imagine I. The carcass, the whole bit.

[Hannah]

But I talk about her candy. I mean, I want to spiel about your soup.

[Mike Ryan]

I want my candy to taste like candy. Imagine that. If it tastes like anything other than candy, it's not candy.

[Dan LeBatard]

It just feels like something old people, with all due respect, would love. You guys like your hard candies and you like your soups. It feels like a good combo for. For an older gentleman to enjoy.

[Mike Ryan]

I do like old man candy. Old man hard candy. Like the Werther's.

[Jessica]

Oh, those are good.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, those are great. Those are fantastic.

[Dan LeBatard]

But what if it tasted like chicken?

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, no. It's awful.

[Stugots]

All right. What if your soup tasted like Werther's?

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, that would be good.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that would be good.

[Jessica]

Different game.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just like butterscotch pudding.

[Stugots]

Why do old people like hard candy? Like, you would think with the teeth situation, that we'd be looking for, like, softer things, right?

[Mike Ryan]

You know what? I got teeth in my head. My. My dentist. Yeah, he retired.

[Stugots]

McGillicuddy.

[Mike Ryan]

My former. Yes.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

He told me that I will die with these teeth in my head. I have.

[Hannah]

That guy wouldn't shut up.

[Mike Ryan]

By the way, I have some of the best gums ever made.

[Stugots]

And teeth. Gum teeth combo.

[Mike Ryan]

I have a gum. I have a gum situation that's a one.

[Hannah]

I can.

[Dan LeBatard]

What does he mean by that? Like, your teeth aren't gonna fall out.

[Mike Ryan]

Right. Like, a friend of mine, just a couple of years older than me, just had. Has dentures now.

[Stugots]

Really? And name names.

[Mike Ryan]

And that's never going to happen because.

[Stugots]

You wouldn't allow it. Like, if you did lose your teeth.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I'll never lose my teeth.

[Jessica]

Your teeth are going with you to the grave.

[Stugots]

Well, let's say you get in a skateboarding accident, you lose some teeth. Are you going to get dentures or you're just going sans teeth?

[Mike Ryan]

Moving forward, I would probably go sans teeth.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think he's saying his teeth wouldn't fall out in a skateboard.

[Stugots]

No, they won't fall out because the Gums are because of the teeth.

[Mike Ryan]

Because of the gums.

[Greg Cody]

What he's clearly saying, okay, is that he had this awkward conversation with his dentist. When you're dead, your teeth will still be in your head. That's a conversation he had with McGillicuddy.

[Stugots]

Right? That's good.

[Jessica]

You can't say that about everyone. I mean, no, he's got a good.

[Greg Cody]

Deal, he's got a good set of teeth. He's saying that you come from good fabric and that your, your dental structure, what's been passed down to you, makes you someone who will have. When you are a numb skull.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

In the, in the grave, your teeth will be intact because you have, listen to me. Teeth in your mouth, teeth in your head.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, I have. Lifetime teeth. When, when you're cremated, do the teeth survive that or do you think it's.

[Greg Cody]

Just a pile of dust and some teeth?

[Jessica]

Yeah, I think when you open the grave, many years later, you just see the teeth.

[Mike Ryan]

Right?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

There's no way this could be a.

[Dan LeBatard]

Grinning smile like videos of cremations. Like there's still pieces.

[Hannah]

Why, have you seen videos?

[Stugots]

That's odd.

[Greg Cody]

What the hell are you watching?

[Mike Ryan]

Shreds of bones.

[Greg Cody]

What kind of darkness do you do in your spare time?

[Stugots]

Lucy watches on planes and she doesn't want Fine Bomb to see you.

[Greg Cody]

Wait, you just watch people incinerated in your spare time? Where do you go? Incinerators.com.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'M trying to remember what show it was in, but yeah, it was. There was a lot at least.

[Hannah]

Do you get like the sped up version, like a time lapse was in.

[Dan LeBatard]

That monkey documentary because this woman tried to pretend that she, her monkey died, she had a chimp that she wasn't supposed to have and she apparently lied to the government, to lawyers who were telling her she had to hand over this monkey. I think she had a different monkey cremated and then said, this is, this is the monkey. He died and I cremated him. And they said there's no way that you self cremated the monkey because there would still be bits of the monkey left. So then they showed a cremation and what was left over after they cremated it. And there were like pieces of bones and stuff.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that's correct. You have to put. Before you put the ashes in like an urn, you have to put it through a sieve like you put spaghetti in a colander.

[Dan LeBatard]

At the game on Monday, I met someone who brought their dad's ashes to the national championship.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow.

[Stugots]

You hang out some wood.

[Mike Ryan]

Did. Did what with them spread like in her pocket.

[Stugots]

How do you get that through security?

[Mike Ryan]

In her pocket.

[Jessica]

Did they buy the ashes a ticket?

[Stugots]

What kind of bag was it? Like, what if it's. You can walk past security with powder in a bag.

[Jessica]

That's odd. I mean, let it go.

[Mike Ryan]

That is odd.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think that.

[Jessica]

Like bringing your parents ashes to a football game.

[Mike Ryan]

I never heard of that.

[Dan LeBatard]

You've never heard of that? I think people do that all the time.

[Stugots]

I do. Yeah, I think. I think. I thought I read somewhere there was a service of people that will do that. Like they'll spread the ashes for you instead of.

[Dan LeBatard]

They weren't spreading. They were just like I wanted, you know, part.

[Stugots]

That's really weird. Hold on a second. Didn't even spread them.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just went out for vacation. Mercedes Benz took him to a football game.

[Stugots]

That's odd. Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

I need to stop everyone here and have you all realize that you have somebody being cremated. Being just a bunch of ashes with seven whole human teeth on it, right?

[Jessica]

That was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

The teeth will survive.

[Stugots]

Well, how. Okay, so you.

[Greg Cody]

I don't believe that. I don't believe it's ashes and chunks. I believe it's just ashes. I believe the incinerator grinds everything. The dust you're bringing up, it doesn't grind anything.

[Mike Ryan]

It doesn't grind anything.

[Greg Cody]

Jessica, we can do a think piece. About what? Tiger King morphing into that chimp movie? A think piece on everything that's happened to America. That that chimp movie made you profoundly sad. I don't know if chimps incinerate the.

[Jessica]

Way humans do you and think pieces. I got to tell you, I was thinking about think pieces the entire day.

[Stugots]

Yesterday and we were super confused.

[Jessica]

It's a terrible sell. Like, because I don't want to think. Don't tell me it's a think piece. I just want to read your column, be done with it, move on to the next. If I read anything at all. What I don't want to do is have to think too much. Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Jessica]

I mean, right, Think piece.

[Mike Ryan]

The same with the phrase long form, right?

[Jessica]

Exactly.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I see long form and like a little like antenna goes up and like. Ooh.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Dan LeBatard]

To find out about something I never knew in this David Grann. He's got a whole short story book of all his long form. Greg, you would love it. Giant octopus, everything.

[Stugots]

How does your friend know they brought the deceased dad's like eyes ashes and not like a foot ash. Like how do they know that they actually observed and witnessed the game?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know.

[Dan LeBatard]

It wasn't a friend of mine. It was someone that I met that day and. And she was, like, telling me, but she said it sort of offhanded, so I never really followed her icebreaker.

[Jessica]

Did she introduce you to her dad or me?

[Stugots]

Yeah, here's my dead dad.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, but, like, I feel like you guys are a lot more afraid of. Of death than not afraid.

[Stugots]

Just.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just like, you're.

[Jessica]

You're Tough questions, I don't think.

[Mike Ryan]

Enjoying the game.

[Hannah]

Weird.

[Dan LeBatard]

Honestly. You know what I thought was weird? When my pap died, my uncle accidentally unscrewed the urn and part of his ashes fell out. Like, at the reception. I was like, uncle Frank.

[Mike Ryan]

What a faux pas by Uncle Frank.

[Stugots]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Fumble.

[Stugots]

Vacuum it. What do we do?

[Greg Cody]

Uncle Frank. You can't forgive uncle. Stop that. Can't be forgiven. You can't be Uncle Frank.

[Jessica]

Maybe trusting Uncle Frank in the first place was the problem.

[Greg Cody]

It's a Mark Andrews situation for Uncle Frank.

[Stugots]

Greg, you said your teeth are permanent because of your gums, but when you die, your gums erode. So do your teeth then fall out at that point?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't give a. Oh, all right.

[Greg Cody]

Very good.

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[Greg Cody]

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[Katie Nolan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

Quiet, man.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife. Despite that gratuitous line in back in my stugats. I wish you were here. My wife, I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married, you know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. I'm just going within 30 seconds. You know, what am I. Hello? All right. All right. We'll see you. All right. And then, you know, I'm gonna see her in two days. I was jumping Charlie.

[Stugots]

Good. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Greg Cody]

Earlier, if you were with us last week, you heard people say that I looked worse than Chris Penn after he died and then got sicker.

[Jessica]

Oh, wow.

[Greg Cody]

That's a thing that happened. Yes. And so now.

[Jessica]

Geez, man.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that's.

[Jessica]

Someone said that about you.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, that was. Katie Nolan is joining us now.

[Jessica]

She laughed out loud at that, by the way.

[Katie Nolan]

And at the thought of you reading it all. Stugots.

[Jessica]

Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

Where are you on what we're saying in terms of hardest things to incinerate on the human body? Do you imagine it's the eyeball? Do you imagine it's the toenails? Do you imagine it's the teeth? When people are talking about cremations without looking it up, what do you think is the hardest to turn to ash?

[Katie Nolan]

It's gotta be the teeth.

[Jessica]

Thank you.

[Katie Nolan]

Like, what is this? It has to be like, how do you burn that? I can't light that on fire.

[Mike Ryan]

It's like, Yankee.

[Greg Cody]

So you guys are saying you think it. You think that in an urn is a bunch of ashes and the teeth or your.

[Katie Nolan]

No, I think they grind them up. I imagine they grind them up. These are also the easiest part to just go like. And it turns to dust. So if I were cremating somebody, and maybe I will someday, I would grind up the Teeth, I think, into a fine powder.

[Mike Ryan]

Exactly.

[Jeremy]

What ends up happening, apparently, is that part. Parts of the. The. The enamel of the teeth remain. The soft tissue, of course, will be cremated, but the enamel and some bone fragments remain. But then, Katie, you're right. They just grind them up into a little powder and throw it on in.

[Jessica]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

How do they grind them?

[Stugots]

Yeah, good question.

[Jeremy]

What's used to a pencil sharpener?

[Stugots]

A mortar?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, the same thing my grammy uses to make meatballs. Greg, what do you think?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know. I've never ground a bone.

[Stugots]

Really?

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Stugots]

That's surprising.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I haven't.

[Greg Cody]

Katie, I just want to get your thoughts on something because Greg Cody is often doing his very own show. Greg Cody decided, with very bad timing to just shout at no one in particular. In particular, guy don't want to earn.

[Mike Ryan]

Want to earn. Not want to.

[Greg Cody]

Guy don't want to earn. Katie. Katie is a guest on our show. You're doing one of your signature lines, but she has no idea what you're talking about.

[Mike Ryan]

I thought everybody knew that. Gotta want to learn. Gotta want to earn.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, Katie.

[Jessica]

It's pretty standard.

[Greg Cody]

Katie, would you like to try and analyze what he was trying to say with bad timing there, and then he'll explain it to you so you understand the way that you were so careful the first time you were on with us. You waited about 45 minutes before speaking. Greg Cody just speaks when he wants to.

[Katie Nolan]

Guys don't want to earn. So I assume you're saying a person doesn't want to be cremated and put into an urn, and you're quoting something that already existed that sounded like guy don't want to earn.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, guy. Guy don't want to earn. Guy don't want to learn. Guy don't want to learn. Guy don't want to earn.

[Katie Nolan]

You're just saying it more. It's not helping.

[Stugots]

No, he's right.

[Jessica]

It is helping me.

[Greg Cody]

It.

[Mike Ryan]

It. It means and. And it's. I know it's guy, but, you know, it applies to women as well.

[Katie Nolan]

Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

Got to want to earn. It means you're not working hard. You got to want to earn. Got to want to learn. Got to want to earn.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, and it's a nothing to do with earns. We were just talking about play on words, cremation, and also separately earning.

[Stugots]

Yeah, Classic two, two, two situation.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right?

[Mike Ryan]

When I hear a word that has another meaning to it, or a pun can be.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, the Kornheiser school of aging. That's it. That's comedy in your 70s, baby. Just make things rhyme and then go to the grave.

[Mike Ryan]

No, that's true. Somebody says he's got a lot of pride. I'm going to make a Charley pride joke. I can't help myself.

[Jessica]

That a boy.

[Stugots]

Okay, Katie, enough shenanigans. Just to catch you up on what we were talking about earlier. Who do you think would be the easiest tight end to kill?

[Jessica]

Wow.

[Stugots]

Oh, all time.

[Greg Cody]

I thought it was hardest. Tight end was the, well, easiest and hardest. Yeah, but easiest.

[Stugots]

Yeah, because, I mean, well, naturally we were talking about immortal tight ends because of, you know, the game that we had this past weekend. So, yeah, Gronk, we were talking about it off air, outside. I think that Gronk would be the easiest to trap in a box with a stick.

[Katie Nolan]

Yes. Like, yeah, you can lure. You could lure him anywhere into, like.

[Stugots]

And then you get him, like, in a bamboo cage and you just kind of let him, like, run around in there and it's. It's fun. Like, I wouldn't want to kill. Kill him. Right?

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah.

[Stugots]

Heaven forbid. Gets out.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, right. But I do think he'd be very easy to just. You just tell him a couple things and say it's okay, and if it starts to feel scary in there, nothing's happening, you're okay. And he would just, you know, sit there in that gas chamber that I just lured him into and then, boom, he's dead.

[Greg Cody]

Put it on the poll, please. Juju, could you fool Gronk with a handful of lollipops? Yeah. Just what the answer to Gronk seems to be, because the place we started is he's both the hardest and the easiest EAS is to fool. But physically, we started talking about how do you start to solve this problem if it does not want to be killed?

[Katie Nolan]

Okay.

[Stugots]

As one does this time.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why are we doing. I don't like that.

[Greg Cody]

It's Billy the third time. It's a Wild Billy Wednesday championship weekend.

[Katie Nolan]

I mean, like, if the hardest. The hardest is Tony Gonzalez because he's connected to Bezos and so he's probably got shooters.

[Greg Cody]

I do and have wanted to talk about the inauguration and Bezos. I don't think we want to do that now. Katie Nolan is here and I should announce to the people. I'm very excited about this. I was very excited to see it. She is making her triumphant return with casuals. She is at Sirius XM. That's where you can find our show as well. 12:00pm Eastern on channel 85. And Katie, I was just thrilled to hear because I've been watching the content you've been making with Pablo, with Dan Soder, with just the things that you've been doing. I like to see you back in the game in a way that feels vibrant.

[Katie Nolan]

Hey, thanks, Dan. I will say we're not on Sirius XM. We're a SiriusXM podcast. And you can get that wherever you get your podcasts. But, yeah, it's fun. It's just, you know, I don't have to tell you guys what it is. You know what it is? It's just a show that's about sports, and it isn't really about sports as much as people seem to want it to be sometimes. You know what I mean? When you work in sports media. I'm not gonna explain this all to you guys. I've been doing this to, like, outside. I've been doing outside sports media, like the media rounds today. And so that speech is very different than the one here. You guys know what?

[Greg Cody]

Well, but so, yeah, because I'm. I'm very excited about a number of different things here. Okay. But also from afar, and forgive me to. To start here, but it seemed like the Apple baseball experience would seem, from afar, super scarring, just unpleasant to. I mean, Bob Costas at the end is fighting with the baseball purists about how he announces games.

[Jessica]

You're really diving right into this, man.

[Greg Cody]

It's a day of celebration because I want her. Because I want people to understand her return means, like, it's. To me, she's going to get to do something in her voice now, unencumbered by other things. And I'm excited to see what that blossoms now that she's been strengthened by the bull that this media business does to people.

[Katie Nolan]

That's good. I'll give you some grief. You can eat. So it was like. It was tough. Apple was tough. It was a swing. Not to get into the baseball metaphor, but it was a thing I tried. They pitched me on it. At first, I said no. Then they came back and they were like, we really. It's. We weren't joking. We think you can specifically bring what you. To baseball. And then after one game, that wasn't what they wanted anymore. And, you know, if you work in the media, that happens. Sometimes you get sold a bill of goods. You say yes, and then things change and you adapt. But adapting in baseball is a lot harder than maybe other sports because it's not a sport that does a lot of change or rapidness. And so it was just sort of a look. It was a season I got to go for free to a bunch of baseball stadiums I'd never been to and watch live baseball from the best seat in the house. So I'm not. You're not gonna catch me complaining. Like, I, like, it was some sort of traumatic experience. Were people really, really, really mad and mean? Yeah. But I got back in touch with baseball. I love baseball. Like, I used to now, which is awesome. I'll never be mad about that. And I also just think, like, yeah, the. The. The podcast for me was like, the la. After baseball, I took a little bit of time to just like, all right, let me not. Let me get out of sports for a second and, like, go back to liking sports as, like, a person who likes sports, not somebody who likes sports. And then the next day is going to have to talk about them all, because that changes the way you watch it. And so I just kind of went back to being a lady that likes to sit at home and watch sports and talk about it with her friends and then was like, surely we can make a podcast of this. And so here we are at a. It's just. I just want people to have an in like that, that if they don't already know everything and they don't know the inside jokes and they don't know the references and they don't. They just can come, you know, find out on casuals and see if sports are for them. Because I think, you know, Dan, I'm not teaching you anything new here. I think we lean bro heavy in our coverage of sports, and I think there are gals who might be interested in sports.

[Jessica]

You don't say.

[Katie Nolan]

But who are turned off by all of the sleeveless tank tops.

[Jessica]

Katie, how did it feel just being a sports fan? How'd that feel?

[Katie Nolan]

It rules. It was so much different. I was like, oh, my God. I can just like, if I miss a play, I don't have to be like, go back. If this is key, I need to know where. Where were they on the field? What was the down and distance? It's just like, you're just watching the sport. It's like the emotional ride. The whole reason I loved sports in the first place is it's like human interest. It's like happening live right in front of you. Nobody knows what's gonna happen unless gambling money eventually. Oh, we're on DraftKings Network. Let me not say that. But, like, it's happening in front of you. No one knows. Everything's like, anything could happen at any given moment, and we're all experiencing it. We all have this weird emotional tie to it. Like, it reminds us of our families and our dads, and it's like how we communicate with we love in our lives, but it's just a sport. It's just like a silly thing. Especially now with all the goings on. It's just like a. A. It's a thing everybody can love. And I feel like we're not helping enough. People love it.

[Jeremy]

Katie, I listened to the first episode, and you and Stavros were just basically cracking up the entire time on hating on each other's fandoms and creating sort of mini rivalries within it. So how much of the this is going to be just celebrating sports versus kind of enjoying that friendly, you know, shit talk?

[Katie Nolan]

I feel like it's going to depend on who we're talking to. Right. Like, so a lot of people, when they. A lot of people are bringing fandom with them, and we will figure out what they're fans of and where their fandom comes from and what their connection to it is. And obviously, if they're somebody that, like, if they're a Yankees fan, there's going to be some playful, fun tension there. But we also have a lot of guests who, like, you know, comedians who. Who aren't sports fans, don't consider themselves sports fans. And we'll talk to them about, like, why that is. And, like, I always think it's really funny to get funny people's perspective on something that, you know, but they don't because they always are bringing these fresh eyes and they're watching sports and going, why is it like this? And you go like, well, actually, I've never thought of it that way. Why is it like that? So that's. I'm hoping to have a lot of moments like that. It's just basically gonna be like, tell me what you're into and what you watch and why you care about it, and then let, like, we go through the news that was interesting to us that week.

[Greg Cody]

Katie, I feel like you're uncommonly discerning and that, you know, what feels good in the making of content. I would imagine over the last couple of years, wherever it is that people like Stavros make things that you found some inspiration in. Like, I've got a really cool lane to make something that is adjacent to some cool people and creators, and I've learned some things that the hard way in the media business to make this exactly the kind of people I want to collaborate with.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, I. I've. I met a lot of cool people through doing this job. And then obviously my fiance being a stand up comedian. I now, a lot of my friends are standup comedians and they're. It's just like an interesting group of people that I have a connection to from all these different places that I'm like, why wouldn't I bring them in and talk to them about the stuff that I love with them in a unique way? Like Ken Jennings. We're trying to get Ken Jennings because, like, obviously I met him doing celebrity Jeopardy. And I think it's fascinating that on Jeopardy. These really smart people always suck at sports categories. They just never have any sort of understanding about, like, the most basic sports questions. And I was like, what if we have Ken Jennings on and we ask him why he thinks that is and like, what it is about sports categories in Jeopardy that, like, make them not work as well? And like, what? And then I was like, well, who else would? Where else would that content come from? And I don't know. So I made Casuals so that we can talk about that kind of stuff.

[Greg Cody]

Every Tuesday and Thursday in the Sirius XM app, wherever you get your podcasts. I wanted to ask you about what you think is going to happen with Tom Brady, but I also wanted to ask you the difference between how you're selling this endeavor during your media tour and the difference between how you should sell it here. Because I really do believe this is going to be a special, special thing that you make because you've done a lot of hard earned learning about what you want and what you don't want from this business. So I believe it's going to be the best thing that you do.

[Katie Nolan]

That's nice of you. What was your question?

[Jessica]

It's a good question.

[Greg Cody]

What, what have you said most often while on this media tour?

[Jessica]

He wants to know your pitch to the people who don't realize what it.

[Greg Cody]

Is as you're going around saying, hey, casuals, it's a podcast for you. How do you sell that to others who aren't familiar with your work and versus how you would sell it to us?

[Katie Nolan]

Okay, so what I've been saying to them is basically like, it's a sports podcast for people who don't listen to sports podcasts. It's a sports podcast for somebody that's like, yeah, I know how sports work and I know them and I, like, maybe I played them when I was younger, but, like, I don't keep up with them because I'm kind of bored with the way, like, it's not. I'm making them this for like my sister in law, who I'll watch sports with when we're on like Home for Holidays. And we'll be watching the pregame show and she's like, I'm sorry, can I put something else on until the game starts? They keep talking about the same four numbers and none of those numbers are like, matter to me. And it's, you know those people, the ones that are like entertained by the sport, but the stuff around it, they're sort of like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not probably gambling on it. And I never thought I would go pro, so these numbers don't really matter to me. I just kind of would rather laugh. And we can laugh about the sport, but the laughing is sort of the important part. And the main part of the pitch has been like, for whatever reason, sports is really siloed. So if you're listening to like an entertainment podcast or a pop culture podcast, it'll cover almost everything except sports. Unless it's like a big sports story, like if Aaron Rodgers does something stupid, but they won't really touch on like, oh, and also we're in the divisional round of the playoffs. And so I feel like people have a hard time getting just like basic level entertainment sports content that isn't specifically sports content. You know what I mean? I feel like you're not bumping into it unless you're signing up for the other stuff. And so I want to give people just the like pop culture entertainment sports stuff so you'll be aware of what's going on in the world of sports. You'll be able to use it to your advantage small talk wise. Because I think that's one of the best things about sports is you can just like talk to, you know, your door guy about their teams. It's just like a little connection you have with them. And then also, ladies, the men in your life, I feel like the emotional door to a lot of men is their sports teams. It's just like where you guys are putting all your feelings and so it's.

[Greg Cody]

My only door Apes. Yes. It's unbelievable. Hey, ladies, do you want a portal to the caveman in your life?

[Hannah]

Katie, I have two questions. One, have you ever cut at the airport the TSA PreCheck security line? And two, do you have any guesses? Because we're being told here that someone in the media covering college football cut the line, a massive line at in Atlanta.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Hannah]

Leaving that game. Have you ever done it? And do you have any guess of who it could be in the media? The Hints we have. They're white and they're a man.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh. Oh, that shocker.

[Stugots]

I never heard white.

[Katie Nolan]

The. The cut. The TSA line. Meaning, like, how I would. There'd be a riot if you jumped in the front of the line.

[Hannah]

Well, it was so chaotic that the line, like, it was hard to tell where the line started. So it was just one of those where it was like, oh, where do I go? And then I stumbled into a cut.

[Dan LeBatard]

Was like, oh, I'm above the rules. And also, no one's gonna say anything, so I'm gonna cut.

[Stugots]

Yeah. Who's gonna yell at Lee Corso?

[Katie Nolan]

You know, I would bet. I mean, I would bet Herb Street Private.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a good guess.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I started with him and Fowler. But, yes, it has to be like, what happened at the beginning is, of course, profiling. Negandi got accused, and then it became. It has to be a white man. It's only a white man. And so we've made guess is from Tim Tebow to Lou Holtz.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, Tim Tebow is definitely private, right?

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

But I don't know who's missing. Like, David Pollock's not still around doing stuff off of. Off of the broadcasts, is he?

[Jessica]

I don't know.

[Katie Nolan]

No. Who's this? Who's. Well, the sidelines, like Molly. So it wouldn't be Molly. She's too sweet. Also, to the answer your question that I skipped. I've never skipped the TSA line. I'll say. I don't have TSA PreCheck. And also, I have the thing where I pay them to let me skip the line called clear. So I'm always skipping the line. But it's, like, sanctioned. In a sanctioned.

[Dan LeBatard]

The clear line was 90 minutes long.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. I would just recheck.

[Jessica]

No, their salespeople are assassins. I'm serious. I mean, they are crazy.

[Katie Nolan]

That's how they got me. I was late for a flight at lax, and I was. I ran in panicked, you know, me. And. And somebody was like, are you late for your flight and you want to skip the line?

[Jessica]

They feast on panic flyers.

[Katie Nolan]

And he was like, it's gonna. He's, like, walking me to the machine while talking, and he goes, gonna cost you. Whatever it is. Hundred bucks or whatever. And I was like, don't care. Fine, let's do this.

[Greg Cody]

The commerce of it is what's clear. Like, I love the fact that they are just trolling the business. To God is like, why didn't I think of this? Can I. Can I sell people a government sanctioned Federally mandated, cutting the line. You'll pay. You'll pay anything to not stand with your shoes off next to that guy, won't you? That. That barefooted guy from Des Moines. You want. You. You want. You got $75.

[Jessica]

You want to.

[Greg Cody]

What a grift. It's not any safer. You could just buy yourself. That's what. That's the future. That's where we're headed on all things in the future.

[Katie Nolan]

Everything. That's medicine, too. People are like, oh, I have a doctor come to my house, and it only costs. And I'm like, yeah, that's. That's like cost prohibitive to a lot of people. I don't think you can, like, skip the medical line to get to your doctor. People are waiting to see a doctor. That doesn't feel good. I don't think. I don't think we should do that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Katie, do you know anyone that spread their ashes at a sporting event?

[Katie Nolan]

No, I don't know if I know anyone that spread. I mean, I guess I helped Dan spread his grandmother's ashes. Other than that, I don't. It's. The wind is always a fascinating factor to me when it comes to spreading ashes. It's like, you toss it, it comes right back in your face. Now you're eating your loved one.

[Stugots]

Dan.

[Hannah]

Where did you guys spread grandma's ashes?

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my Dan. My fiance Dan. Not Dan.

[Hannah]

Thing for you and Daniel.

[Katie Nolan]

Dan LeBatard to spread his grand ashes.

[Hannah]

Odd flex by you.

[Greg Cody]

It's just weird. I was, you know, I was really sad Katie happened to be there. I'm like, you want to just eat some of my grandmother?

[Katie Nolan]

I don't know. She volunteered, so I was like, okay. I guess so.

[Greg Cody]

So weird. She just happened to be around. It was an emotional moment, and she comforted me. I. She held me in her bosom. And we just saw.

[Katie Nolan]

I appreciated the support.

[Greg Cody]

I am very excited about this. I urge you to check out casuals because Katie Nolan has good things. And you should support someone who deserves your support with something. I'm sure she's making for Sirius xm. That is great. Just because she's the one making it. Thank you, Katie.

[Jessica]

Did you have Brady questions for her?

[Greg Cody]

I did because he's getting better.

[Jessica]

He's getting a little bit better.

[Katie Nolan]

I will say he's getting better. He's still got that little thing that bothers me that. Is that his. Those. Those teeth he has are. Might be the wrong size for his mouth. I do wish he would. And I googled it. You can have them. You can go back to the person who did them and be like, can you shave these down a little? And I think that that'd be in his best interest. I hear his teeth when he talks.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, big teeth. Horse teeth.

[Greg Cody]

Put it on the poll, please. Do you hear Tom Brady's teeth when he talks? That is a horrific announcer criticism. Meaner than anything that anyone said.

[Hannah]

Him and Bob Ryan on Apple.

[Jessica]

But he's getting better.

[Greg Cody]

Wait, who else is this?

[Katie Nolan]

But he's getting better.

[Hannah]

No, not Bob Ryan. I'm thinking Rex Ryan. Rex Ryan. You can hear his.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's not Tom. Yours isn't as bad. Aren't as bad as.

[Greg Cody]

What a horrible thing to say about a broadcaster. Like, truly horrible. I can hear his teeth when he talks.

[I]

Hey, Jeremy.

[Jeremy]

Yes, Mike?

[I]

Have you ever had a fireside conversation during a football Sunday during the winter?

[Jeremy]

Sure. We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had the premise of it.

[I]

I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like, we're bunching. But certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that. But we do have our football Sundays. And one thing that always makes football Sundays good. And I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this Miller time.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah.

[I]

Miller Lite makes the winter better. It makes football Sundays better. It makes even hanging out around you better.

[Jeremy]

Thanks, Mike. That was kind.

[I]

I appreciate that. You're my friend. When I have a Miller Light in my hand, pretty much everybody is my friend. Because we are like minded. Because we like beer that actually tastes like beer. Oh, and now the new year. It's the perfect time to have a Miller time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. People out there, I want you to listen to me. And Jeremy, you too, because you know, it hits just different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one, Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

[Katie Nolan]

Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, sold it to Carvana.

[Katie Nolan]

Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.

[Mike Ryan]

The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest, over 36 months. Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes. Picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.

[Katie Nolan]

Just like that?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Katie Nolan]

No hassle?

[Greg Cody]

None.

[Katie Nolan]

That is super convenient.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience.

[Stugots]

Pick up.

[Greg Cody]

These may apply.