Hour 1: Happy Thanksgiling Pt. 3!

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: Happy Thanksgiling Pt. 3!
Date: November 27, 2025
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz (with regulars Chris Cote, Roy and the crew)

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Episode Overview

The first hour of this Thanksgiving episode from Miami serves up the show’s signature blend of irreverent sports talk, personal stories, and comedic tangents—centered mostly on recent controversies in the NBA, the shifting landscape of football (college and NFL), and reflections on sports media authenticity and empathy. The hosts touch on everything from the Pablo Torre NBA investigation and reactions from Steve Ballmer and the Clippers, to the ongoing dialogue around Shannon Sharpe and Ray Lewis. There’s also a spirited breakdown of Miami’s recent college football victory, tangential debates about empathy for public figures, and the crew’s usual inside jokes and playful banter.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Pablo Torre NBA Report & Ballmer/Clippers Statement

• Topic: Debrief of Pablo Torre’s detailed NBA exposé, with specific attention to alleged violations and Clippers owner Steve Ballmer’s response.
• Discussion/Insight:
  • The crew reads and lampoons the official statement from the Clippers:
    "Neither Mr. Ballmer nor the Clippers circumvented the salary cap... Any contrary assertion is provably false..."
    – [03:00]
  • They riff on the formality of referring to Ballmer as “Mr. Ballmer,” with Dan poking fun at the gravitas and capitalized “Mr.” in all references.

    Dan: "The funniest part of this statement is the Mr. Ballmer is capitalized...not Steve Ballmer, it’s Mr.—capital M—Mr. Ballmer." [03:59]

  • The tone is playful cynicism, highlighting media vs. billionaire PR strategies:

    Dan: "Traditional media versus a billionaire. I know how this one goes..." [04:38]

2. Ray Lewis vs. Shannon Sharpe - Authenticity in Sports Media

• Topic: Recent public comments by Ray Lewis critiquing Shannon Sharpe’s tone/content in modern sports media.
• Discussion/Insight:
  • Ray Lewis expresses surprise at Sharpe’s approach:

    Ray Lewis (audio): "I’m shocked at his content. In a million years…I would never believe Shannon would say or do anything [like that]." [06:45]

  • Lewis says media has become "so worldly" that it becomes popular for "talking about ignorance" and refuses to engage in "gossip conversations." [07:00]
  • The hosts discuss whether Shannon Sharpe is truly inauthentic, defending his public persona as consistent with his past as an outspoken player.
  • Shannon, joined by Ochocinco, responds to criticism with vulnerability, feeling like “low hanging fruit”:

    Shannon Sharpe (audio): "Everybody want to get a lick now because, well, your boy was doing good…a lot of people didn’t have a whole lot to say." [08:52]

  • Dan and Chris debate whether Ochocinco’s role as a sidekick adds or detracts from the Sharpe podcast dynamic.
  • Memorable Moment:

    Dan: "I care about this even less than when it started." [09:58]
    Chris: “He’s saying he’s low hanging fruit; everyone’s taking their shots and he’s hurt by Ray Lewis.” [10:01]

3. Empathy, Public Figures, and Family Embarrassment

• Topic: Following Sharpe’s ESPN departure, the group addresses Shannon’s regret that his firing overshadowed his brother Sterling Sharpe’s Hall of Fame induction.
• Discussion/Insight:
  • Chris Cote makes a case for empathizing with Sharpe, referencing the discomfort of overshadowing a sibling’s big moment:

    Chris: "Anyone can understand, though, embarrassing your family…Who doesn’t understand loving your brother? It’s his big day and look at what you’ve done..." [12:03]

  • Dan is more ambivalent, noting that empathy for Sharpe is "not going his way," and personally not feeling it:

    Dan: “I just don’t care. I just, just don’t care.” [13:12]

  • They debate the idea of "empathy bandwidth" and for whom we feel it most.

4. NFL Predictions, The Legendary Greg Cody, and Betting Reality

• Topic: Greg Cody’s long history (35 years) of NFL predictions, with questions about his overall success.
• Discussion/Insight:
  • Greg (in studio) estimates his lifetime picking success:

    Greg: "Not the spread...in the neighborhood of 650 to 660. Against the spread is over 500...about 525-518, 522..." [20:56]

  • Dan calculates that, with the "vig," Cody’s historical record would amount to being a "career loser in money."

    Dan: "Basically if you had been doing that with your money, it would have cost you money..." [21:22]

  • They agree: anyone claiming a 73% win rate is “lying or hallucinating.” [22:06]
  • Preference is stated for NFL over college picks due to parity and unpredictability in pro football.

5. College Football: Miami, FSU, Notre Dame—Victories, Mirage or Momentum?

• Topic: Breaking down the recent victories by Miami, Florida State, and Florida, and what the early season polls mean.
• Discussion/Insight:
  • Dan and Chris stress that week 1 college football polls are unreliable: anyone in the top 10 is there by "a lot of people who don't know anything." [25:09]
  • They cautiously praise Miami’s win over Notre Dame, pondering whether it’s a long-term “signature win” or could fade if Notre Dame disappoints.
  • Discussion of Notre Dame’s young QB, C.J. Carr:

    Dan: "When CJ Carr took his helmet off on the sidelines ... that is a young, that car. Carr looks very young…” [38:24]

  • The crew agrees that, for Miami, pulling out a close win means more than blowing out Notre Dame, suggesting a test of mettle rather than dominance:

    Chris: "The fact that they were able to respond in a tight game and pull that out, that to me meant something. I think it means more than a blowout victory." [37:36]

  • Special note: The improvement on Miami’s offensive and defensive lines signals a positive trajectory.

6. The ‘Start of the Day’ Game – Saban and Alabama’s Unbeaten Stat

• Topic: Playing with Nick Saban’s jaw-dropping stat of only four losses to unranked teams in 230 games at Alabama.
• Discussion/Insight:
  • Chris Cote correctly guesses the stat, undermining Dan’s buildup:

    Chris: "I'm going to say four. Four is exactly right. I do my research. My due diligence." [32:15]

  • Playful group banter about "undercutting the bit" and how Jeremy reported the stat the day before.

7. Podcasting, Voice Games, and Meta Comedy

• Topic: Extended stretches of playful, sometimes absurd, banter—including a “guess whose modulated voice” game, in which everyone involved readily admits they’re bad at it.
• Discussion/Insight:
  • Dan and Chris joke about their inability to disguise voices, and poke fun at the show’s low success rate at the bit.
  • Bit of self-deprecating humor about the broadcast’s technical difficulties and their on-air shenanigans.

    Dan: "As a company, we stink at voice modulation. Let's continue to see if we can get better at this..." [18:52]

8. Cracker Barrel Logo Controversy & Podcasting Cameos

• Topic: The Wall Street Journal includes Jonathan Zaslow’s voice in a serious piece about the Cracker Barrel logo controversy.
• Discussion/Insight:
  • Chris Cote, to his own surprise, hears his own “Cracker Barrel has made everybody crazy” soundbite in the Journal’s podcast:

    Chris: “Yo, that’s me! It would have been good to leave the trailing sound of other serious podcast voices…so people would have noticed that was you.” [42:05]

  • Crew jokes about AI, copyright, and whether Zaslow is owed any money.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Le Batard (on Ballmer’s press release):
  "It's not Steve Ballmer, it's Mr.—capital M—Mr. Ballmer... Do you think they pronounce it like 'Mister Ballmer!'? That’s how he talks, right?" [03:59]

• Ray Lewis (on Shannon Sharpe):
  "I'm shocked at his content. In a million years…I would never believe Shannon would say or do anything [like that].” [06:45]

• Shannon Sharpe (responding to criticism):
  "Everybody want to get a lick now because, well, your boy was doing good. Even here, a lot of people didn’t have a whole lot to say." [08:52]

• Dan Le Batard (on empathy for Shannon Sharpe):
  "I just don’t care. I just, just don’t care." [13:12]

• Chris Cote (on embarrassing family):
  "Anyone can understand, though, embarrassing your family though…Who doesn’t understand loving your brother? It’s his big day and look at what you’ve done..." [12:03]

• Greg Cody (on betting record):
  "Not the spread...in the neighborhood of 650 to 660. Against the spread is over 500... about 525-518, 522..." [20:56]

• Dan Le Batard (on college football week one):
  "Anyone that was in your top 10 in week one was made in your top 10 by a lot of people who don't know anything..." [25:09]

• Chris Cote (on Miami win):
  "The fact that they were able to respond in a tight game and pull that out, that to me meant something. I think it means more than a blowout victory." [37:36]

• Chris Cote (on voice cameo):
  "Yo, that’s me! …This was a serious Wall Street Journal podcast...they just dropped in Zaslow." [42:05]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Clippers/Ballmer Response & Pablo Torre Fallout: 03:00 – 04:45
• Ray Lewis on Shannon Sharpe: 06:43 – 08:52
• Shannon Sharpe’s Response & Empathy Debate: 08:52 – 13:12
• Greg Cody’s NFL Prediction Record & Betting Math: 20:36 – 22:19
• College Football Rankings & Miami/ND Recap: 23:37 – 40:47
• Saban’s Alabama Stat "Start of the Day": 32:01 – 33:29
• Guess the Modulated Voice/Meta Humor: 17:24 – 18:52
• Cracker Barrel Podcast Cameo: 41:56 – 43:40

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Summary

Hour 1 of the Thanksgiving “Happy Thanksgiling Pt. 3!” episode delivers the typical Le Batard Show experience: skewering sports culture, challenging media narratives, poking fun at each other, and framing even the silliest tangents as essential. Whether lampooning “Mr. Ballmer,” dissecting Ray Lewis’s old-school condemnation of media gossip, or earnestly debating the value of empathy, the show balances levity, insight, and honest reflection on how sports—and those who cover them—shape the larger conversation. For fans of Miami sports, podcast meta-humor, or media accountability, this episode brings plenty of meat, no matter what your empathy bandwidth.

Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

The way you would if it were.

[Chris Cote]

All capitalized, like Mr. Bulmer? That's. That's how you would say capital. It should have an exclamation point.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's how he talks, right? Like that's it.

[Chris Cote]

Like Mr. Ballmer. So does Pablo owe Mr. Ballmer an apology now that they've come out and cleared this all up? You're good with the defense there. I mean, it feels like this could have just been resolved over a phone call. Like, hey, did you do it? Like, nah.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm like, okay, traditional media versus a billionaire. I know how this one goes we.

[Chris Cote]

Can move on to other subjects. But just to close the loop on what it is that not Greg Cody accused me of earlier poor journalism judgment in a story from 30 years ago about the White House in Dallas. The story was about sex and the Super Bowl. That's the story that I was doing. And one of the other things in that story that I've told you about recently was that I called Derrick Thomas for that story, the late Derek Thomas, to ask him if it was true that when he and Shannon Sharpe got into a fight on Monday Night Football that got Derek Thomas ejected for three straight or two straight penalty flags for unsportsmanlike conduct because Shannon Sharpe had enraged him. I was calling Derek Thomas to ask him if all Shannon Sharpe was doing was repeating a woman's telephone number that he cared about. And Derek Thomas hung up on me as soon as I called him. And Shannon Sharpe, because Derek Thomas has passed away, says I will never say what it is that I was saying to Derek Thomas. Shannon Sharpe has been in the news recently. Let go by espn, fumbled the bag like very few people ever have. And we have some sad. These guys were teammates Ray Lewis and Shannon Sharpe for a championship team. Shannon Sharpe among the best tight ends I've ever seen. Before we started making Gronks and Travis Kelce's really prolific, productive. And given that I saw the 30 for 30 on the Ravens, given that I saw Ray Lewis and Shannon Sharp interact, I didn't think that where we've now arrived in public discourse would be a thing that I saw given the unity of the huddle. Here's Ray Lew talking about Shannon Sharpe. And listen to what Ray Lewis has to say before you hear Shannon Sharpe hurt by what Ray Lewis had to say. Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you're not surprised by the success.

[Chris Cote]

He'S having with his podcast and TV and. No. Him and Skip and Stephen a. All that stuff. No, I'm not surprised. I'm. I'm shocked at his content. I wouldn't in a million years, the things that Shannon has said now or did now, I would never believe that Shannon will say or do anything.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

And then so I kind of started to watch him. And then we kind of went our own separate ways. Because I'm like, you're gonna take that route? I can't go that route. Never can go that route. And that route is. It's become so worldly that you become popular because you're. You're talking about ignorance. Right. A lot of times, a lot of these gossip conversations that they having and bringing up all this stuff, I'm not gonna do that to nobody. I'm not. I'm not in the business for that. I'm in life to try to teach people what does it mean to be a better man or get back to the kingdom. Ray Lewis is not the only one who feels that way about Shannon Sharpe. The all the smoke guys say that they don't like some of the stuff that is being done in modern media that Shannon Sharpe is also doing. But I do feel like Shannon Sharpe is pretty close to authentically himself in public, because this is the guy that during games would pick up the phone that goes to the offensive coordinator when they were scoring and scream on the sideline, call in the National Guard. They're in trouble. Like, this is the person personality that Shannon Sharpe was. But Shannon Sharpe, because of everything going on around Shannon Sharpe, was hurt by this and is trying to take the high road. I want you to listen to this, though, and not just for Shannon Sharpe's hurt. I'm here to maintain that Ochocinko does the Stugatz job better than anyone does the Stugach job, except for Stugats. Ochocinko, the perfect sidekick to help Shannon Sharpe do what he's doing. I got nothing bad to say because a lot of things when, when, when, when you tolerated. I'm going to say my thing. Whatever transpired, I bite my tongue. I'll be the bigger person. I'll walk away. Hey, you right. Because you know why? Oh, it's low hanging fruit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

You know how I know? Cause your boy, you looking at him, he low hanging fruit. And there are a lot of people taking your shot at your boy. Come on, now. Y' all can have it. Y' all got it. Y' all got me. It's all right. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. We gonna be all right, oj. Yeah, that trivia say we gonna be all right. Yeah, listen, I. I could have told you that. I can tell you. I've been telling you that. Yeah, everybody. Everybody want to pile on. Everybody jump on now. Hey, we got him down, Ocho. We got him down. The best time to. Hey, let me get. Let me get my lick now. Everybody want to get a lick now because, well, your boy was doing good. Even here, a lot of people didn't have a whole lot to say.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, everybody got something to say. What are you guys shaking your heads about?

[Dan Le Batard]

I think Ocho said more than Shannon did. I don't. I don't know what anybody's saying. Why is that?

[Chris Cote]

Really got to be talked about in code.

[Dan Le Batard]

I care about this even less than when it started.

[Chris Cote]

It's not code. He's saying that he's low hanging fruit, everyone's taking their shots and he's hurt by Ray Lewis being one of the people who's taking the shots there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't forget it was a very famous.

[Chris Cote]

Scene ahead of that Ravens first Super.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bowl win where Ray Lewis was going.

[Chris Cote]

Through it, you know, with all the legal stuff. And Shannon Sharp invaded the media day, put his arm around Ray Lewis and.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did a whole deal about what a.

[Chris Cote]

Great man this is. And I don't like the way that you're treating him. That was a big thing back then.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think Ocho really helped him out there either. I mean, you gotta talk. There's so much. So much silence. At least two gods will like fill the gaps with a fake laugh.

[Chris Cote]

Ocho, he didn't even say anything, did he? Like literally, did he say five words?

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, it sounded like call and response while you're in church. Wow. That sort of thing.

[Chris Cote]

Did we change the numbers? The technology on your modulated voice? What's a different person happened there? Who do you mean? I've been here the whole show, that kind of thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy sounded fine, Chris sounded fine. What are we talking about here?

[Chris Cote]

The thing that I saw while I was on vacation that actually made me feel really bad for Shannon Sharpe, even though you may not feel bad for Shannon Sharpe, was when he was lamenting the fact that he implored ESPN to not release the news that he was being released until after his Brothers hall of Fame weekend. Obviously that's not how the news works, but I did feel bad for Shannon Sharpe having to be around Sterling Sharpe, profusely apologizing when Sterling Sharpe is telling him, please don't apologize. But he ends up soiling what was one of the great nights of Sterling Sharpe's life.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think given the three, because Chad had stuff in the pros too. Three of them. Generally, to most people they elicit very strong opinions and I don't think empathy is usually one of them.

[Chris Cote]

Anyone can understand though, Embarrassing your family though? No. Like you, any anyone. I understand that empathy can be hard to come by when we prefer to laugh, especially as cruel as social media is. But who doesn't understand loving your brother? It's his big day and look at what you've done. You're more famous than your brother. You are a better football player than your brother. Your. Your brother is getting one moment in the lights. That is a fountain of youth and that that week you're the news, not your brother.

[Dan Le Batard]

Maybe if there was more separation from the events, but if you've got an empathy bandwidth and it's directed around whatever is surrounding Shannon Sharpe, I don't think it's going his way.

[Chris Cote]

Why would anyone have an empathy bandwidth like I do?

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't muster up the same kind of empathy for Shannon Sharp that you are, obviously.

[Chris Cote]

But it's not these things can both be true though that. But you can not feel bad for Shannon Sharpe and see a situation here that anybody would feel bad in if they were the one responsible for it. Empathy bandwidth sounds like you have only so much empathy you're willing to give out. That is what he's saying. When it sounds like you just you only have empathy for certain people who deserve it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I just don't care. I just don't care. I just, just don't care.

[Chris Cote]

I think, I think the two brothers handled it very well on the hall of Fame stage that day. Right? If, if there was apparent acrimony then I would feel bad for one of them. But they, they seem to handle it very well. Good for them. Folks. Want to have some skin in the game? Put your money and award winning bourbon where your mouth is. Whether you enjoy sipping it straight or mixing it in a cocktail, the true pros know larceny raises the stakes and flavor with every pour with multiple awards between the two. Larceny, small batch and barrel proof are no strangers to the winner's circle. As a weeded bourbon, you can count on larceny to keep it smooth no matter the spread. Don't gamble with what's in your glass. Go all in and seize tonight with Larceny Bourbon. Add a winning spirit to your bourbon roster with the smooth taste of larceny. Find a bottle near [e-mail] the Dan Lebatar show is brought to you by Larceny Bourbon Bardstown, Kentucky 46% alcohol by volume Think wisely. Drink wisely.

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[Chris Cote]

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[Chris Cote]

Don LeBatard. I got somebody here making fun of me. How old do you have to be to reference Shecky Green? Man, I went comedically there with the funny name of a comedian. That's on you for not knowing who Shecky. Oh, you gotta know who Shaky Green. No, you don't have to know who Shecky Green is, but your ally. No, no. Yeah, I don't like my allies.

[Dan Le Batard]

Belt Stuart. I have the soul of a borscht belt.

[Chris Cote]

Comedian. I should be in the Catskills in 1945 opening for Shaggy Green. That's who I was destined to be. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. Do you guys want to play the game? Do you guys still want to play the game where I turn my back and try to figure out whether on the voice modulator who's on the voice module? Should we go back to the Monster or leave that one? This is a fun game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Still want to play the game? Suggest I want to play the game from the start. And also, Ray kind of lost me with all the signatures behind him on that podcast.

[Chris Cote]

Let's try it one time. Turn around, and then we're gonna have someone talk, and then you will have to guess who it is. All right. But Zaslow Zaslo was saying that he saw Ray Lewis recently not wearing a baseball cap. And because he was not wearing a baseball cap, did he come home or no, Ray Lewis wasn't as intimidating as he used to be.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he's got the horseshoe going on.

[Chris Cote]

He's got to go home, Mike. Also, what was suggested is that the original voice modulation sounds a little bit like Andrew Luck. And I was wondering if at some point we might able to get Andrew Luck or fake Andrew Luck talking on the voice simulator to see if we can distort that a little bit. But I'm going to play the game that Mike doesn't want to play right now. I'm going to turn my back here to the proceedings, and I'm going to try and guess which one of you is talking. But I don't see. I don't think you guys are much for getting out of your seats and scrambling. So I'm going to guess before I even do this that this is going to be Greg, that none of you are going to move, and it's going to be Greg. All right, well, now, right now you're hearing shuffling around. Like we're moving. A lot of people are moving. See here.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, I'll go over there.

[Chris Cote]

All right. A lot of shuffling.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Chris Cote]

That kind of thing. Is that Roy? Wow. That was Roy. We stink at voice modulation. All right, game over. Good game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nobody moved.

[Chris Cote]

As a company. We stink at voice modulation. Let's continue to see if we can get better at this as we go along, shall we?

[Dan Le Batard]

What a kill you to talk some football. I mean, not football for years. Starting tomorrow. I mean, damn, give them a day. Ravens, Bills, huge games. We got Cowboys, Eagles. We got so many big games that people are gonna Watch Chiefs, Chargers. These games are sold out.

[Chris Cote]

Hollow.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cote]

Since you want to talk about football, I am very pleased to have Greg Cody in studio. As a longtime NFL WR. One of the longest timed NFL writers, he is entering his 35th year of making NFL predictions weekly. I believe my brother did the first art for the upset bird that he consults whenever it is that he thinks there will be an upset in the NFL over the 35 years. Greg, have you tallied your overall record? Do you know your Overall record over 35 years picking games both against the spread and straight up? I. Greg's not here but let me speak for him. He does know his all time record.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't personally know it right now.

[Chris Cote]

But I can tell you overall. Oh my God. Overall, the mess is faster.

[Dan Le Batard]

What happened?

[Chris Cote]

Wait a minute. It's you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm back.

[Chris Cote]

It's Greg Cody. You guys, you guys tricked you fraud. Where have you been?

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg?

[Chris Cote]

You missed this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, what's going on here?

[Chris Cote]

No, my, my overall record meaning not the spread is in the neighborhood of 650 to 660. And my record against the spread is so distracting. My record against the spread is over 500. I want to say about 525. 18, 522. There's an echo chamber in here.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's going on? The echo. What else is new?

[Chris Cote]

This is not, not, not an echo chamber. Now people are going to think this is Greg the whole time. I know that's not terrible, but it sounds like you have spent 35 years picking games and basically if you had been doing that with your money, it would have cost you money because the vig would have made it so that you would be a career loser in money at that clip. Again, I'm guessing on the percentage. You wouldn't be though if you were at 73%. That's not. If you were 73%. What are you insane?

[Dan Le Batard]

Any.

[Chris Cote]

Anybody who says there is 73% is lying or hallucinating.

[Dan Le Batard]

You must be high.

[Chris Cote]

I mean, come on now, let's get real. I had a great season last year.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was like 68, 69% overall and about 53, 54% against the spread.

[Chris Cote]

It's difficult. You know, this isn't the, the NCAA where, you know, Miami's favorite opener, Bethune cook, went by 100. This is King Sport. This is the NFL where the biggest points of the week this week is like 7 1/2 or 8 points. It's ridiculous. Every game is close. Everybody can beat anybody. And I'm slaying the dragon. I'm the man in the arena with his sword, slaying the mighty point spread. You like the pros better than college, don't you? I do. No, I do. For that reason, you know, you can pick whoever you think is the best team in the NFL. Let's say Philadelphia, whoever you think is the worst team. Let's just say New Orleans. It could be a competitive game. In the ncaa you have a couple of difficult games and then you have five or six wins that are just baked in. Okay? You start the season with five wins and then you have the Bethune Cookmans and no offense. Billy, the FIUs. I mean, Penn State versus FIU. Come on, what are we doing here? I mean, FIU is others receiving votes and the coaches poll.

[Dan Le Batard]

I saw that.

[Chris Cote]

I didn't know you had a vote. Billy, since I prefer to talk about games that have been played than games that are going to be played, let's talk about college football for a second. Let's talk about the polls, let's talk about the coaches poll. Let's talk about the fact that Florida, Florida State and Miami are all in the top 15 after week one. One of the things every year that I guard against because I don't believe that before week one anyone knows much of anything, which is why you get the FSU Alabama result that you get and no one sees it coming. But I also feel that while coaches always say the biggest improvement always gets made from week one to week two every season because of what happens in game one with jitters and people being off, I also believe it can be hard to detect in watching games like Notre Dame, Miami, for example, if Notre Dame is actually going to be good this season because I don't believe their quarterback is going to carry them this year. I don't believe that. C.J. carr. I believe Miami's defense is good. And I would have believed it was good before what I saw yesterday, just based on some of the things that they did in the portal and in the off season and just revamping the defense. But I don't actually know after watching Miami and Notre Dame if that Notre Dame offense is going to be limited all season because I don't believe in their quarterback. And though he played well under the circumstances, seeing what I saw, I don't. I know now it's a signature win. But I also know that anyone that was in your top 10 in week one was made in your top 10 by a lot of people who don't know anything. And so some of those things can end up being a mirage. And so today I don't know if FSU is really good or if Alabama is really bad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, at the end of the season that could look like an 8 and 5 team be, you know, a 7 win team. I think that that's probably more likely for FSU and Alabama given that Alabama's 5, 5 in their last 10 and FSU is coming off a season where they had two wins. Gus Malazan, he can do that to certain teams that are, that are unprepared to play. And it certainly looked like Alabama was unprepared to play. There are so many highlights on social media of guys giving up jogging to where they think the play is going to go, not caring whatsoever. I do think that Miami's win over Notre Dame will age while I rewatch the game a little bit. That game was actually pretty close. It's just that Miami won that middle eight the last four minutes of the first half, the first four minutes of the second half and that's when Miami looked their best. But other than that, they were kind of matching blow for blow over there. And C.J. carr, I think, really impressed because I thought he looked great for a dude that never played. And yeah, maybe, certainly, certainly nervous in the first half. You know, the throws weren't good. He, he looked nervous. They were conservative with him. The short passes kind of get him going and then when he had to start making plays, he was doing so with his feet. And Minshi was supp to be the more mobile of the quarterbacks. I think Notre Dame is going to be all right. And historically under Marcus Freeman, that is a team that gets stronger as the year progresses. And after that it was week two.

[Chris Cote]

Last year they lost in Northern Illinois.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right. And you see games that could be tricky on their schedule like Arkansas and Boise. Well, Boise looks like they've completely fallen off without Gentee. So I do think that Notre Dame is going to be in that conversation and I do think we'll look back on Sunday saying, oh, those two teams have made sense. They kind of remained in the conversation to the FSU point though. Like they looked great on almost every side of the ball. Right. Offensive line was going and attacking people at the point of attack. Defensive line looked good. Their defense was actually something that last year was obviously embarrassing.

[Chris Cote]

This year they stood up.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't really like Ty Simpson that much. I think that he's kind of a stop back quarterback for whoever they get next. But their offense, Tommy Castellanos was dynamite. Yeah. And he didn't have to have to throw and I was laughing at things like that. But even the throws he did make were like spot on. You don't really see that from him. Yeah, I think early on he kind of grew into the game and he's one of those front running quarterbacks that as soon as he knows that he's got something, he feeds off that energy. And to the other team from the state of Florida that is also ranked in the top 15 collectively with the big three for the first time since the pre ranks in 2006, I actually came away with a ton of concerns for Florida, which is rare in a game that a team wins 550 you get 0 sacks against a Long island school that we all learned at the same time has a football program. They surrendered 11 tackles for loss. That is a team that is not winning the line of scrimmage as impressively as they should against a school that again we just learned has a football team. And that schedule. Have you seen that schedule? It gets tough.

[Chris Cote]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cote]

$8 only at McDonald's for a limited time only. Prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher in Hawaii, Alaska and California. And for delivery. Don LeBatard Greg Cody of the Miami Herald. He's actively playing defense against my ability to do this show because. What are you laughing at? You're just laughing. Honey Boo Boo is embroiled in controversy. It's funny to me.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sorry. Stugats.

[Chris Cote]

He couldn't stop laughing. Just looking at the picture of Honey Boo Boo. That doesn't sound healthy. It's a his life. We are fantastic. We can't make him laugh like that. It's how he's gonna die right here. Just laughing and coughing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to die like that.

[Chris Cote]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Breaking news, espn. Stephen A. Smith and First Take are talking about the Pablo Torre blockbuster I like. On the screen it just says, according to documents obtained by Pablo Torre. It's just his name. It's not Paulo Torre.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the documents that he has.

[Chris Cote]

No, but it's just Pablo Torre. They're not even saying Pablo Torre finds out. They're just saying Pablo Torre has documents. You don't normally see somebody by name being referenced as having documents on espn. I want to ask you guys, from a moment, among all the stats that you saw in Alabama, did you and did any of you see a better stat than this one? I gave it on the show that we did on Labor Day. Chris, Cody, can you please get me the stat of the day music? I want to ask you guys, of all the numbers that you saw, did you see any number better than the one I'm about to give you here? Start of the day, start of the day, it is the start of the day. Start of the day, Start of the day, it is the start of the day. Start of the day, Start of the day, it is the start of the day. Start of the day, Start of the day, it is the start of the day. Zaz, you want to take a gift? Guess as to how many times, if you don't know it, how many times? Saban, in 230 games lost to an unranked team?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, man, 230 games.

[Chris Cote]

All Alabama. All Alabama, all. Do you guys have any guesses on this I want to guess. I want to guess because he played obviously against a lot of ranked teams, but he played against 230 unranked teams.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know, I'm going to say zero.

[Chris Cote]

I'm going to say four. Four is exactly right. I do my research. My due diligence. He just asked the question, how do.

[Dan Le Batard]

You do any research?

[Chris Cote]

Undercut the whole bit. I knew it. I mean, I knew it. I. That happened to be in my. In my. So that's not research. That's not research. That's the thing about sources. They know the information. That's why you have to cover his voice. So you don't know who knew. That's not the stat, though. The stat. That's the first part of the stat. Oh. DeBoer has coached 14 games at Alabama. You want to guess how many times he's lost to unranked teams? Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm gonna go 1, 2, 3, now 4.

[Chris Cote]

I was gonna say 35. I'm pretty done with that bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Also. Jeremy read that stat yesterday on the air.

[Chris Cote]

I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

So we did it. We ran it into the ground.

[Chris Cote]

The stat.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right. Oh, oh, okay. Not the modulator. Oh, that's all got legs.

[Chris Cote]

Do you guys have a better stat than that one? I mean, I. I liked that Kaylin DeBoer, he has lost in. In four of his five losses are.

[Dan Le Batard]

When Alabama was a double. What was a two touchdown favorite? Four losses so far as a two touchdown favorite.

[Chris Cote]

Like, that's.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's pretty wild. Do you want to play devil's advocate, though? Marcus Freeman had that reputation. He's lost some big games as a multiple touchdown favorite. And they usually grow into seasons and everyone would concede Marcus Freeman's a very good.

[Chris Cote]

I thought car looked good under the circumstances, but I'm bringing in previous knowledge and Jeremiah Love when I say I think that's going to be a big playoff. I didn't see a lot of examples of a quarterback who was going to produce a big play offense against Miami. Might be circumstance. Might be Miami's defense. I expect Notre Dame to be good. I'm just telling you that I often see games before week one and after week one where two teams are playing and I can't quite tell you how good they are because I don't know if both of them are bad or both of them are good. I don't know if both of them are somewhere beneath where I expected them to be or whether they're going to be better when I'm watching Miami and Notre Dame play Against each other, though. The thing that did jump out to me, and it's why it is I understand the Miami fan base's criticism of Mario Cristobal. What we did see is a team with a 2 turnover dis advantage have Maulers on the offensive and defensive line. And usually when that combination of things is in play, I can tell that this offensive line can't handle this defensive line and I can tell that Miami's offensive line can handle this defensive line. If I give that team a two turnover advantage, put them at home, they're not kicking for the game with a minute left.

[Dan Le Batard]

And then you have to remind yourself that's a Notre Dame team that, yeah, leaned on Riley Leonard a lot to make plays, but they brought a lot of dudes back from that team that ran through big time programs all the way to a college football playoff final. You could argue that's the best secondary in the nation. In fact, many are. And Miami was making plays against that secondary. So look, we've been there. There was a Labor Day night game with Jaquory Harris where we all thought Mark Whipple was the next greatest thing and Jaquory Harris was a Heisman favorite. And then it turns out neither FSU or Miami were good. And who's to say? I'm sure there will be games like that. When we look back and look at week one under a microscope, I just happen to think, given the very recent track record of Notre Dame and the fact that Miami looks a certain way, that those two teams seem to be legit.

[Chris Cote]

Well, that's what it is for me is Miami looking a certain way. You know, like I like that Hurricane team that we saw Sunday night. Those bodies, the physicality that they showed. All right, the Canes, you know, you go back the last eight, nine, 10.

[Dan Le Batard]

Years, they've had some, they've been few and far between. But you've had some big wins, you.

[Chris Cote]

Know, specifically 2017 against Notre Dame. But, but like that, to me, you won that game 41 8, that game against Notre Dame, you weren't 33 points better than that Irish team. You know, you look at this win Sunday, the fact that it was a close game, I thought that, I thought that spoke better for Miami.

[Dan Le Batard]

If they want, they go up 217.

[Chris Cote]

And they keep pouring it on Notre.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dame, it's like, all right, you're not this much better than Notre Dame.

[Chris Cote]

The fact that they won a tight game, it turned out, against the Irish, I thought that spoke a lot about this. Can't see.

[Dan Le Batard]

And they left some Points on the ground. They were very spooked by Notre Dame's special teams. They, they, they called a timeout on a punt return because they didn't like the look. And then they rushed another field goal because they didn't want to take two timeouts on special teams and they end up getting zero points from that Justin Scott force turnover. I think that Miami still has a much better performance in them and it's great to lean on the defense and win a game in which you feel like you left some points on the board.

[Chris Cote]

But you thought blowing a 10 point.

[Dan Le Batard]

Lead and winning a close game was.

[Chris Cote]

Better than laying it on and blowing them out. Yeah, because if the Canes go on.

[Dan Le Batard]

And they win that game, let's say by 28, 31 points, you're not four touchdowns better than Notre Dame.

[Chris Cote]

Like, I don't know, I don't know what that proves in that spot. The fact that they were able to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Have a 14 point lead at one point and then, okay, Notre Dame makes.

[Chris Cote]

The comeback and then you were still able to respond in a tight game and pull that out. That to me meant something. I think it means more than a blowout victory.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think I see your logic. I would have preferred I'd feel better about Miami if they did. But you feel better about it because.

[Chris Cote]

You wouldn't have been nervous at the end of the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right. I do think that there was potential for that game to get out of hand. And a slip here on a wet field, a big busted coverage here and there. Like there were moments where Notre Dame just made certain plays, maybe got lucky or whatever, but they hung around the same exact way they hung around last year to an annoying degree. That made me think Notre Dame, CJ Carr, they're going to be all right.

[Chris Cote]

I wanted to see them just, I wanted to see them pulled out in a big spot. We saw they were capable of building a double digit lead and we also.

[Dan Le Batard]

Saw they were capable of responding and.

[Chris Cote]

Pulling out a game in a big spot. But they like, they blew a lead.

[Dan Le Batard]

And if you didn't have a freshman.

[Chris Cote]

Quarterback, a two minute draw, they could have lost. They blew a lead. They also have more confidence in their kicker now.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can argue four of 12 last year at FAU.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, that was my problem with the final drive.

[Chris Cote]

Like I didn't like settling for a.

[Dan Le Batard]

47 yard field goal nailed, by the way.

[Chris Cote]

It was four, it was four of 11. I want to attack a couple of things here. You said that Miami fans were just nervous. That is absolutely where all of the spoiled entitlement is coming from the loudest people who aren't satisfied with a win over Notre Dame. You didn't like that you were scared at the end of the game. And so you're mad at Mario Cristobal because you were scared at the end of the game. That happens all the time. I told you guys what I saw between championship locker rooms when I walked in as a freshman. University of Miami, they never lose a home game while I'm in school. But I don't have any context for what college football players are supposed to look like. So I walk in as a freshman and I see Jerome Brown and I'm like, that's not a fellow student in the locker room. But years later when they were on probation and I'm going in there and it's Ryan Clement and a bunch of kids with pimples. When CJ Carr took his helmet off on the sidelines and I'm seeing that guy being chased by Reuben Bane, I'm like, that's a child. That is a. That is a young. That car. Carr looks very young. He's taken off his helmet and he looks like the leader of Notre Dame is not yet grown up because he's very young. And so what I didn't see was a big play offense in that game from either team like they were. I understand that there were three fun touchdowns of 30 yards in the first half but. And there was a broken play late in the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pretty good secondaries it would appear but.

[Chris Cote]

But there were not big plays in that game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Two good defenses. Yeah, I mean that. That's what it is. And the word. Like I watched that. I love the first touchdown pass from Beck and I gave him more credit than Malachi Tony. Because I thought everyone was hyperbolic about the 17 year old. And in watching the game back, seeing Malachi Toney shorten his route, adjust to the ball the second it leaves Carson Beck's hand against that secondary. It's a pro move. That's a 17 year old boy that is making that decision in that play. And to the second touchdown pass, I came away more impressed with the throw from Carson Beck, especially knowing that that was something that they recognized in their prep and knew that that specific 2 foot by 2 foot area was going to be there for that play. Perfect execution there. I think Miami's in good shape.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, I thought calling Carson Beck's throw lucky on that second touchdown pass is garbage. You know, you had to make a great throw and also a great catch.

[Dan Le Batard]

Both of them were necessary in order.

[Chris Cote]

To get a touchdown there. And they did both. It was a great throw and a great catch. But the thing being lost on both of these. The thing being lost is that his eyes are still downfield on both of them right before he's about to get crushed, right? Like he waited until the last possible second to make both of those throws. Put it on the poll here, please. Juju, did you ever think Mark Whipple was the next greatest thing and also put on the poll? Can anyone named Mark Whipple ever be the next greatest thing? I want to play for you some sound here and see if you recognize anything about it. It's not sports. It's that Cracker Barrel, that silly Cracker Barrel controversy. The Wall Street Journal has a pod. This is not a sports story. And I want to see if you guys notice anything about this reporting done by the Wall Street Journal's podcast on this Cracker Barrel story.

[Dan Le Batard]

All because a new streamlined logo erased that old timer and set off a digital pitchfork mob. Our colleague Heather Haddon has been covering the story.

[Chris Cote]

A lot of commentators were like, no, we do not like this.

[Dan Le Batard]

This.

[Chris Cote]

So Cracker Barrels made everybody crazy today. Yo, that's me. It would have been good to leave the trailing sound of other serious podcast voices at the end of that so that people would have noticed that that was you on the podcast, as opposed to you speaking right here next to me for the audio audience that's not watching. Well, I was shocked. I didn't expect to hear myself. That was me. What was this? Yeah, what is that? This was a serious Wall Street Journal podcast breaking down everything going on with Cracker Barrel, and they wanted to give some context, so they just dropped in Zaslow. I told you he's a rising star. I told you that he. Everyone in media is noticing what it is that Jonathan Zaslow is doing these days. And so this is not an edit. This was something that the Journal put together. And we were all shocked when we heard Jonathan Zaslow's voice inexplicably in the middle of the Cracker Barre barrel controversy.

[Dan Le Batard]

All because a new, streamlined logo erased that old timer and set off a digital pitchfork mob. Our colleague Heather Haddon has been covering the story.

[Chris Cote]

A lot of commentators were like, no, we do not like this. So Cracker Barrels made everybody crazy today. His voice is so distinctive. I wasn't on that show. No, you were not. They stole that sound from our show copyright. Yo, that sounds like some AI nonsense. I'm entitled to some kind of Mumbai money.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait, what is AI?

[Chris Cote]

I wasn't on that show. They're using my voice.

[Dan Le Batard]

Have you. I mean, you've done radio shows for how long? You know how playing clips work? Yes.

[Chris Cote]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Chris Cote]

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