Hour 1: In Some Cirlces (feat. Andy Garcia)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: In Some Circles (feat. Andy Garcia)

Date: September 5, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

This episode blends the show’s signature banter on sports and pop culture with a special segment featuring acclaimed actor Andy Garcia and his son, discussing the eternal heartbreak and hope surrounding Miami Dolphins fandom. Before Garcia joins, the crew debates Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's Oscar campaign, breaks down the Los Angeles Clippers scandal and its NBA ramifications, relives infamous interviews, and humorously commiserates over Dolphins-Colts anxiety.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Rock’s Oscar Ambitions and “The Smashing Machine”

Timestamps: 01:39–07:36

• Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson’s career pivot: Dan reflects on attending college with The Rock, noting a shift from universal adoration to more skepticism nowadays (“I feel everyone loved The Rock there for about 30 years and over the last few years some things have changed.” — Dan, 01:39).
• 15-minute standing ovation at Venice: The crew debates whether any film or performance merits that much applause.
• Cynicism about award shows: Mike chalks up marathon ovations to competitive European film festival culture, not necessarily achievement (“…now it’s just, oh, we got to be Tommy Toppers every time.” — Mike, 02:38).
• Body transformation and acting chops: The panel’s humor turns caustic on his new look (“He looks terrible. Oh, you heard that?” — Chris, 03:30). Mike defends The Rock’s effort and notes the performance is generating serious critical buzz.
• Poll Questions: Several tongue-in-cheek Twitter Poll suggestions (“Can you live in a world where The Rock wins an Oscar?” — Dan, 03:53).

Notable moment (funny):

• Chris fires: “Do we even know if he’s wearing real glasses? All of a sudden, the guy can’t see. Like, get out of here. I don’t like it. Leave glasses to the ocularly impaired.” (05:17).

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2. Billy’s Encounter with Security (Wandering in an Alley)

Timestamps: 07:38–09:14

• Billy shares an anecdote about pacing in a closed-off alley while on the phone, drawing attention from security: “I was just…wandering about in an alley. Walking circles on the phone, as one does…” (Chris aka Billy, 07:53).
• The cast jokes about the “threat” he posed and mall cop golf carts.
• Billy sees the upside: “I kind of liked it. I was like, finally, someone thinks I’m dangerous. It’s a rush.” (09:02).

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3. The Clippers Scandal and NBA Ramifications

Timestamps: 14:56–18:32

• Kawhi Leonard & Paul George trades revisited: Dan wonders about collateral damage if tampering charges are proven, comparing NBA precedent (Joe Smith/Minnesota) and raising the specter of lost draft picks (“…this is way worse than what was going on with Joe Smith.” — Sponsor Voice (summarizing Cuban), 16:39).
• Potential historic fallout: Mike calls it possibly “the worst transaction in the history of sports” if the allegations are proven and the franchise is penalized (“…number one with a bullet. The worst transaction in the history of sports…” — Mike, 17:53).

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4. The Most Awkward ESPN Interview Ever (“Just Dominating”)

Timestamps: 18:41–20:22

• The crew closes the file on their infamous Amari Cooper interview, which consisted of just a few words:
  • Dan: “Thank you for joining us, Amari. Could you be in the NFL right now? What do you imagine you’d be doing in the NFL right now?”
  • Cooper: “Just dominating.”
  • Dan: “Thank you for being on with us, Amari.”
• They recount ESPN’s frustration when they repeatedly teased the briefest of interviews as content.

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5. Broken Bands and Refusing the Nostalgia Circuit

Timestamps: 20:22–23:32

• Retiring at the right time: Mike relays Jon Oates’ reasoning for not reuniting Hall & Oates, paralleling it to athletes like Amari Cooper retiring early. “If I go out there and play this song, and it just doesn’t sound the way that it was intended…I don’t want people to remember us like that.” — Mike, 20:22
• Morrissey and The Smiths: Annual Coachella offers and never-ending band tension.
• “Call a Notes” info: Listeners are reminded of the longstanding hotline for Hall & Oates hits, with Mike rattling off the number from memory: 719-266-22-837 (22:41).
• Groan-worthy lyric puns: Dan quips, “I think hall would say, I can’t go for that. No can do.” (23:24) and gets roasted by Mike and Stugotz.

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6. NFL Preview: Dolphins-Colts and the Fragility of Fan Hope

Timestamps: 23:32–26:10

• Dolphins’ season on a knife’s edge: Stugotz says, “I literally think that their whole entire season just is going to be determined off the vibes of this game.” (24:21)
• Two directions: Mike jokes the Dolphins-Colts match is “a couple eight and nines cutting it up” (24:43).
• Fan delusion/self-awareness: Dan observes, “It’s one of my favorite things that the lower half of the league does… They’re looking at you like it’s a mirror. It’s the Spider-Man meme.” (25:26)
• Predictions swing from 15-2 to 2-15, underscoring Miami’s bipolar expectations.

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7. Bill Belichick Scouting Scandal and Show Self-Critique

Timestamps: 26:50–29:04

• Belichick bans staff from scouting in North Carolina: Mike cheers not being blamed for this “mess.”
• Regret over botched Mickey Arison interview: Dan is self-critical, wishing they’d done rapid-fire yes/no questions in their restricted 5-minute window (“I have not been able for 24 hours to get any of that off me. I’ve still got it on me today.” — Dan, 28:17).
• Pablo Torre’s podcast launches huge (“…the biggest hit podcast that there is, not just in sports right now…That’s your first episode…That’s where you’re placing the expectations.” — Dan, 28:26).

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8. Andy Garcia and Son: The Endless Hope and Pain of Miami Dolphins Fandom

Timestamps: 31:54–41:42

Andy Garcia’s Optimism vs. Reality Check

• Dan introduces Andy as his mother’s favorite actor, jokes about Garcia’s romantic reputation, then turns to Dolphins talk.
• Garcia: forever hopeful — “I think we’re going to make the playoffs this year.” (Andy, 32:27)
• Dan’s reality check: “You’re always hopeful and you’re always wrong…has not had a playoff victory this century.” (32:30)
• Reliving draft regrets: Garcia laments famously passing on Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees.
• Defensive worries masked by hope: Andy tries to be positive about the defense: “We have a very strong defensive line which obviously helps the safeties and the cornerbacks…” (34:43)
• Bones (Garcia’s son) brings more skepticism, noting recurring injuries and relative anonymity among the Dolphins’ DBs.
• The Tua Dilemma:
  • Andy: “We scream, ‘no, no, no, no! Go down, slide. Throw the ball away!’” (36:18)
  • Dan presses for a thespian-level angry football rant from Andy.
  • Garcia: “Who the f*** are you looking… There’s a guy open in the corner!” (36:40)
• Family watching habits: Bones sometimes retreats alone to avoid negative energy, only rejoining if the game turns for the better.
• Most painful Dolphins moment: Garcia can’t even pick one — there are so many (“Wow, there’s been so many.” — 38:02).

Predictions for Dolphins-Colts

• Andy predicts a win, “27-10.”
• Bones is slightly more reserved, “27-20.”
• Dan, defeatist: “I think they’re going to lose to the Colts on the road.” (40:50)
• Andy: “So you start the season with a loss. This is how you start your season?”
• Dan: “I am an asshole. It is obvious to everybody listening. I will put myself in the penalty box sent there by Andy Garcia.” (41:16)
• Andy signs off: “Gracias. Fins up.” (41:42)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Can you live in a world where The Rock wins an Oscar?” — Dan, 03:53
• “Number one with a bullet. The worst transaction in the history of sports.” — Mike, 17:53 (on the Clippers’ situation)
• “Just dominating.” — Amari Cooper, 19:34 (in their famously short interview)
• “I literally think that their whole entire season just is going to be determined off the vibes of this game.” — Stugotz, 24:21 (on Dolphins-Colts)
• “I am an asshole. It is obvious to everybody listening.” — Dan, 41:16 (after predicting a Dolphins loss to Andy Garcia’s face)
• “Gracias. Fins up.” — Andy Garcia, 41:42 (outro)

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Episode Flow Notes

• Tone & Style: Full of playful sarcasm, long-running in-jokes, polls, and self-mockery.
• Crew Dynamics: Dan balances optimism and cynicism; Stugotz leans into superstition and vibes; Mike brings analysis and deadpan; Chris and Billy play off each other with irreverence.
• Andy Garcia Segment: A highlight, showcasing generational fan dynamics and celebrity relatability.
• Structure: Rapid-fire topics early, settling into the featured interview.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Time | Segment | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------| | 01:39 | The Rock’s Oscar ambitions & movie debate | | 07:38 | Billy’s security run-in story | | 14:56 | Clippers/NBA sanctions discussion | | 18:41 | Amari Cooper “Just dominating” interview revisited | | 20:22 | Retiring bands, nostalgia acts, Call-a-Notes | | 23:32 | Dolphins-Colts, NFL anxiety, and fan fragility | | 26:50 | Bill Belichick, show self-critique, Pablo’s podcast | | 31:54 | Andy Garcia & Son Dolphins segment |

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a quintessential slice of the Le Batard Show: gleefully irreverent, pop-culture saturated, and laced with Miami-specific humor. The Andy Garcia segment is an emotional anchor, giving voice to Dolphin fans ever-hopeful in the face of endless heartbreak—a dynamic perfectly encapsulated in their generational banter. Anyone who’s ever rooted for a lost-cause team will relate, and those tuning in for celebrity fun get more than they bargained for.

Transcript

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[Chris Cote]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats Podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Billy was applauding there even though I have found that Billy recently is anti applause. There's been a turning. I don't know what happened here. I have loved the Rock since college. Like I I went to school with Dwayne Johnson. He was at the University of Miami at the same time that I was there and he's always been charismatic and kind and I feel everyone loved the Rock there for about 30 years and over the last few years some things have changed. Where not everybody loves the Rock, but.

[Chris Cote]

He crossed Vin Diesel.

[Dan Le Batard]

He got but he got a 15 minute standing ovation the other day for what's the name of the new movie that he's in where you can't even recognize him. He's got so much makeup on that there that he looks like someone else. You wouldn't be able to tell from looking at Dwayne Johnson in his next.

[Mike Ryan]

Movie that that's Dwayne Johnson, the Smashing Machine.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why did he get a. So what was the 15 minute standing ovation about? Was it just his performance? What? That movie was his performance?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I mean, these hoity toity film festivals in Europe, they like to give 15 minute standing ovations. And so it was basically like someone got a five minute standing ovation like, 20 years ago, and then now it's just, oh, we got to be Tommy Toppers every time. But the Smashing Machine apparently is kind of right at the course. There were early screenings and it was reported on that it was just kind of a weird experience. Everyone acknowledged that Dwayne Johnson had a great performance, but the rest of the movie was kind of making fun of the genre itself. It seems as though the editor got in the lab and took that personally. Because now, 100%, even though it's early on, Rotten Tomatoes, and it does seem we already know that Dwayne Johnson has secured a starring role in a Martin Scorsese flick. This is how this goes.

[Dan Le Batard]

He wants to win an Oscar. He's doing a 24 stuff. He's trying to do a 24 stuff because he wants to win an award as an Oscar.

[Mike Ryan]

He's also lost, like, 60 pounds recently.

[Chris Cote]

He looks terrible. Oh, you heard that?

[Dan Le Batard]

He looks terrible.

[Chris Cote]

I mean, compared to how he used to look. Does he not look a little decrepit?

[Mike Ryan]

No, I think he looks fantastic.

[Dan Le Batard]

How old is he Decrepit? He's. He's my age. I went to school with him.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, he doesn't look great.

[Mike Ryan]

What? He looks a lot better.

[Chris Cote]

He doesn't look like the Rock anymore. The world. We can't live in a world where the Rock wins an Oscar. Can we all agree on that?

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the Poll Juju at lebatard show. Can you live in a world where the Rock wins an Oscar?

[Chris Cote]

I mean, he's waiting. Having everybody wait for him on set for hours on end, then he wins an Oscar. Oscar. Imagine, like, what's Next? And a 15 minute standing ovation is a bit much, right? By like 14 minutes. A bit much like, you don't need to stand in a nothing. Is that good?

[Stugotz]

I feel like after a minute, I got it.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, exactly right. That's just about the Venice fans and the Venice Film Festival more than it is about the actual movie in the Rock, is it not?

[Mike Ryan]

100%. Now, I know what you're worried about. Him winning an Oscar. The acceptance speech. It's got to be a circus. Don't worry. He won't get to speak because Adrien Brody is still on that stage.

[Chris Cote]

Do you actually think he's going to win an Oscar?

[Mike Ryan]

Dan, will this get you to watch an award show?

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Is anything so good that it deserves a 15 minute standing ovation?

[Chris Cote]

It's just annoying. Like, and if you're even there, you have to be like, can we. Like, who's the person that, like, sits first to end the 15 minutes at.

[Stugotz]

Seven minutes, somebody's like, yeah, because, like, how do you.

[Chris Cote]

How do you guys all decide? Okay, 15 minutes. We're fine.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's.

[Chris Cote]

Let's sit.

[Mike Ryan]

Now that's on Dwayne. It shows. Look, I like Dwayne. Done a lot for the University of Miami. Big wrestling fan character. The man. You got to tell some people, after four minutes, you're like, all right, you just started.

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You just start leaving.

[Stugotz]

If you're the Rock packing up your stuff.

[Mike Ryan]

Please, I insist.

[Chris Cote]

Are they even real glasses? Do we even know if he's wearing real glasses? All of a sudden, the guy can't see. Like, get out of here. I don't like it. I don't like it. Leave glasses to the ocularly impaired.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chris. That's a baller move to suggest that Dwayne the Rock Johnson should have left for four minutes into the ovation and seen if they still went the 11 minutes as he come back from an encore. Beat the traffic. Like, just beat the traffic to get out of the whole thing. Just so you can give me some of the backstory on what this movie is. Because a 24 makes only good things. I shouldn't say only good things, but they are mostly.

[Mike Ryan]

They're a taste maker.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're a remarkable studio. And the reason the Rock chose this story and this studio is because he's angling for. I want to show people something. As the tide turns slightly on what was not 15 minutes of applause, 15 years of applause that the Rock has been getting.

[Mike Ryan]

And it's been about 15 years of trying to get this movie made for Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Remember when Stu Gotts was at the fight in Madison Square Garden, barefoot, standing next to the.

[Chris Cote]

He looks great there, barefoot.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. That was when the Rock said, hey, we're finally gonna make this movie. And then, like, five more years pass. I mean, look how different Stugatz looks a do look good then from that image. So this has been a passion project, and he's always known that he's capable of nailing this role. And by all indications, he has. And, I mean, he's worked very Hard. He's not a bad actor by any stretch of the imagination. He's probably made some bad choices.

[Chris Cote]

Snow Batista, let's be honest with you. And by the way, 15 minute standing ovation, like, that's nothing compared to wrestling crowds. Like, he has to be like, this is the best that these people can do in Venice. Like, this is so lame. It's a golf clapping.

[Stugotz]

That would have actually if he, like, stood on the back of his chair.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Started doing like, yeah, thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

The people's champion thing. Now, famously, when he's been coming out to WWE crowds, he still gets goosebumps and he makes the camera see his goosebumps. I wonder if he does that move at the Oscars.

[Chris Cote]

I mean, the crowd scream, candy. Acid him. Like, no. Like, what, is he even seeking these people's approval? Wow. What. What range he has. He went from playing a wrestler to playing an MMA fighter with, like a fake wig or whatever he has on.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, get dismissing a performance before you've seen it.

[Chris Cote]

I will not see it, so don't think my opinion will change.

[Stugotz]

I'm already rolling my eyes at how long he spent in the makeup chair every day.

[Chris Cote]

Good Lord. Enough.

[Dan Le Batard]

Please get out of here. Billy. I know you have things to do. I know you have. I don't know if you're going to be interrogated by police, but they stopped you in an alley yesterday, and so that is. So you came in here.

[Chris Cote]

I don't blame them.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stressed. Why? What were you doing in an alley?

[Chris Cote]

I was on the phone and I had a Bluetooth thing in my. My head, and I was just, you know, wandering about in an alley. Walking circles on the phone, as one does. Yeah, sometimes you just go for a walk and you're in the middle of a conversation and you lose track of where you are. You just start doing circles. And I realized I was in a closed off alley and two officers came up to me on a golf cart and they're like, are you okay? I was like, yeah, I'm. I'm good. Why, like, why are you here? Like, you're. You're not meeting. What are you doing?

[Mike Ryan]

Were they officers?

[Dan Le Batard]

Golf cart.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, it's a weird vehicle.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a weird squad car.

[Chris Cote]

They seems to be officers. Maybe they were security guards, but they had security that was very like.

[Stugotz]

Was it one of those like. Like beach. Golf carts can go out on the beach.

[Mike Ryan]

No ATV action.

[Chris Cote]

I could have probably outrun it, honestly. But they're like, what are you doing here?

[Stugotz]

The visual sounds like these were mall cops.

[Chris Cote]

Well, look, it was here.

[Mike Ryan]

And I was like, those are the MDC security.

[Chris Cote]

There was. I was like, I work right there. Like, I'm good. I had a backpack on. I'm like, they probably think that, like, I don't know, I'm up to good. I'm a drug dealer. Who knows what they think is going on here?

[Stugotz]

And the visual of Billy just, like, sprinting away from them, I didn't know.

[Chris Cote]

They also kind of watched. I was like, no, I work at that building right there. And I noticed they did kind of follow me into the building. I don't blame them, honestly. I kind of liked it. I was like, finally, someone thinks I'm dangerous. It's a rush.

[Dan Le Batard]

I felt like the Rock, get out of here. I know you have to leave early. We're doing more show than we usually do on Fridays. When Chris Cody did his Rock signature move.

[Chris Cote]

There we go.

[Dan Le Batard]

It reminded me of a story the Rock told on highly questionable. When I asked him, I told the story, as I've told before, of Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant flying to Japan together, drinking the entire flight. And by the time they got into the ring to have the match, there was a point that Hulk Hogan got body slammed. And then Andre the Giant landed on him. And Hulk Hogan just shit himself in the yellow Hulkamania trunks because he was so embarrassed. And so I asked the Rock, what's your most embarrassing moment in wrestling? And he's like, well, I was on the top turnbuckle and I had my fist up in the air. And when the pictures were taken, there was a boulder hanging out of the bottom of my trunk that represents one of my testicles.

[Stugotz]

Calling it a boulder's a move.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's the Rock.

[Mike Ryan]

He's a Rock.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, he's the Rock.

[Stugotz]

So I couldn't get away with that.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, you're not called the Rock, Chris.

[Dan Le Batard]

You are not in some circles.

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, there's zero circles. You were called the circle. Maybe a triangle called the circle more than the rock.

[Stugotz]

My wife calls me her rock all the time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, nice. It's nice to know.

[Mike Ryan]

Great turnaround. That's great, Chris. But we were talking about physique and you. I saw your belly button, though, by the way, when you did that thing. Yeah, yeah. Let me tell you something. Did not deliver on expectations.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mark Cuban is still going at Pablo. He's tweeted, Pablo, come on the own. You only pushed your side in the promos. Nothing you said made your point. You. Lots of information provided by scammers who negotiated with Someone not connected with Ballmer and took them at face value, just to be clear.

[Mike Ryan]

Still, team Ballmer, did Cuban listen to this episode at least because he was on it, because he very clearly didn't listen to the last one because a lot of the ground that he covered was actually covered in the previous episode. But you know, there is a billionaires club and those guys are in the same club. And while maybe the Mavericks would stand to gain from something bad happening to the Clippers, I think if you have this instance like we alluded to earlier in the week when this Pablo bombshell came out, is Pablo imagine other owners are going to start getting a little nervous. Hey listeners, it's Mike. Hey, Billy Gill.

[Chris Cote]

Hey.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

Yeah. Fishtail Palms.

[Mike Ryan]

Fishtail Palms. The great memories we made. Kids playing in the pool and in our hands, a nice ice cold can of Miller Light. It was so hot out.

[Chris Cote]

I know, but it was so cold in my hand.

[Mike Ryan]

We took that first sip. It was crisp. It was refreshing. Oh man, there is nothing like cracking open a Miller Light with your crew and your inner circle bones.

[Chris Cote]

Hell yeah, we fist bumped.

[Mike Ryan]

Whether it's we we actually really did. Whether it's that touchdown, it didn't make.

[Chris Cote]

A sound, but it just thought bam, boom.

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[Chris Cote]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Dan Le Batard]

I just want to ask you guys one thing about consequences here. If if it cost how many draft picks to get Kawhi to Los Angeles?

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[Mike Ryan]

That wasn't the Kawhi trade, right? No, that's Paul George. That was Paul George. That was the piece.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

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[Mike Ryan]

Right. But Kauai, I just want to be clear because we're positioning it as that was a Kauai trade.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Specifics of the reason I'm asking you is just because the Clippers have gone from eternal laughing stock for decades to a team the last five to 10 years that has been vastly more relevant than it's ever been in franchise history. But when we go back on whatever it is that happens with the Kawhi Leonard and Paul George trades that are transactions that it took for the Clippers to become that the Joe Smith salary cap fiasco in Minnesota wasn't that five.

[Mike Ryan]

First round picks, five first rounders that.

[Dan Le Batard]

That cost five first round picks for the promise not written anywhere on hey Joe, we'll get you on the contract next time. If this is proven how many draft what is going to be the collateral damage on how many draft picks it costs The Clippers to just have Kawhi Leonard. If the penalty for this is anything like what the Joe Smith penalty is, given that everyone says that this is worse if it's proven than Joe Smith and Joe Smith when David Stern was in charge. Different animal. That was five first round picks with that with Joe, Joe Smith and Glenn Taylor.

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Yeah, and it was a point just made by Mike. Glenn Taylor was suspended for a year for that as well. But, but even Mark Cuban who was just, you know, going after Pablo for what's said in the promos in, in the meat of this podcast when he ultimately says like, look, I don't believe that any of this is is what you believe it is in terms of a smoking gun. If indeed it is true that this was all happening, it is way worse than what was going on with Joe Smith. He insist he goes, he's done, it's over. They'll have everything revoked. I mean, if this is to be proven by the NBA that this is what was going on, the Clippers are going to be in trouble for, I mean, decades.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's pretty interesting to think about what all of this might cost him when anyone watching or listening to all of that at the time and OKC winning the championship last year would have said Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. Yes, I need to do that if I'm the Clippers every single time. And if we look back at this and see that it costs the MVP of the league, Shea gilgis, Alexander and 10 first round picks or 12 first round picks because you already gave up five of them. And whatever picks they take from you, OKC's already got because of these trades.

[Mike Ryan]

If it, I mean, it's already in conversation as. Because you're coupling, understandably, you're coupling the Kawhi Paul George thing because Kawhi flatly doesn't go there without Paul George. And it's already one of the more disastrous transactions in the history of sports if the end result is they also circumnavigated the NBA salary cap. And who knows what happens to Steve Ballmer and that franchise. It is number one with a bullet. The worst transaction in the history of sports. And David Sampson's off the hook for the Miguel Cabrera trade. So he should. That's his angle to this whole thing. That's why he's sitting at that table, because he's like, man, I'm off the hook here.

[Stugotz]

Pablo, should that be our new Sounder when it's a Pablo?

[Mike Ryan]

Add some wind behind it, Pablo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Something happened yesterday that I found curious and it allows us for evermore to close our Amari Cooper file. We had Amari Cooper on one time, and when we had him on, he was still at Alabama at the time. This might sound like it was a whole interview we had him on, and I'm pretty sure that he said one word in the entirety of the interview that we didn't do anything else with this. I think we got in trouble at ESPN for this, Right? They were mad that we kept teasing, amari Cooper's gonna join us.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And then this was the entire interview. This is the best receiver in college football. He's a Miami kid, and he's been that for a while. Not a Miami kid, but the best receiver in college football. Amari Cooper with us on ESPN Radio. He plays at Alabama. Thank you for joining us, Amari. Could you be in the NFL right now? What do you imagine you'd be doing in the NFL right now?

[Chris Cote]

Just dominating.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you for being on with us, Amari. We appreciate it. So it's two words. Thank you. Four words. Okay, it was four words. It was just dominating, and it was thank you so we can close that file. But it was curious, right? Most players who hold out just don't want to go to training camp and don't want to do any of that. Amari Cooper went to the Raiders and did football things, and then he retires yesterday. And it was an unusual timing. Usually if a guy can get through training camp, he can muster what's needed to get to game one. The guys have. The guys who are thinking about retirement at Amari Cooper's age usually don't even get to training camp or get there the way Andrew Hawkins does for a couple of days, and then says, you know what? I'm done with this. I can feel that I'm done with it.

[Mike Ryan]

Happened to Jerry Rice. He was getting through camp, and then he just decided, I'm not comfortable with the level that I'm playing at, and I don't want to do this to myself. I kind of saw John Oates give an interview on he. Well, everyone got excited, including myself, because, yeah, Daryl hall and John Oates, they didn't bury the hatchet. They settled their lawsuit. And they were. The natural question is like, all right, are we gonna see these boys in the sphere? Hall and Oates reunion? Let's go. But Jon Oates gave an interview, and while he acknowledges that there are still issues between them, he's like, I'm not gonna take shots at these other bands, but if I go out there and play this song, and it just doesn't sound the way that it was intended. And it's a diluted version of this. I don't want to do that. I want the previous performances to speak for themselves, and I don't want people to remember us like that. I don't want to be one of these nostalgia acts. So maybe Amari Cooper's thinking that to himself. He's like, yeah, I made this team, but I'm not a big part of this offense. And Amari Cooper does. That's not dominating. So you don't think there's going to be like an Oasis type situation where John Oates and Daryl hall, they hate each other.

[Dan Le Batard]

They really hate each other.

[Mike Ryan]

So there's definitely a hatchet. I mean, they're so parody. There's so much money to be made. I was hoping so. But the added logic of I don't want to sound like that. The one that I've always hoped for, that seems like there is never going to be any kind of reconciliation is the Smiths, Coachella. Famously, every year when Coachella has their blank slate and tries to set up their lineup, those guys are such huge Brit pop guys. They're the biggest Smiths fans that there is. They always send out a blank check offer to Johnny Marr and Morrissey to bury the hatchet, and they never will. In fact, the news on this is Morrissey's like, I'm done with the false accusations about me. I am selling my 50% stake in the Smiths. Someone buy it from me. I want nothing to do with this brand.

[Dan Le Batard]

Every time we talk about this, I say, get me the telephone number that is still live because I called it like three weeks ago for that hall of Notes number. What is it? It's call a Notes.

[Mike Ryan]

Call a Notes.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's a telephone number that you call and that you get a choice of what song to play. It's still out there. It has not died because I legitimately called it for somebody three weeks ago. I want to get that number.

[Mike Ryan]

719-266-22-837. Yes. It's in my contact list.

[Dan Le Batard]

But the way that you said all of that made it seem like if John Oates went to Darryl hall and asked for them to reunite because hall is viewed as the more talented one there, and I think he's got more disdain for Oates. Please press one to hear it, girl.

[Mike Ryan]

Please press two to hear Manita.

[Dan Le Batard]

Please press three to hear Privatize. Please press for. Yeah, that's what I would assume. Good choice. Yeah. I don't think that. I think that if Oates went to hall right now and said, let's reunite, there's a lot of money to be made there. I think hall would say, I can't go for that. No can do.

[Mike Ryan]

God damn it, Dan. Why did you come?

[Stugotz]

Lyrics Joke.

[Mike Ryan]

Just why'd you do this to us?

[Dan Le Batard]

Andy Garcia is gonna join us.

[Stugotz]

Thank God.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on a second. Let me see if I can find it on the machine so I can make fun of myself here. Andy Garcia is gonna join us in a few minutes to argue with his son about the Miami Dolphins. I see Chris Cody is wearing his Miami Dolphins gear. Game week, Dano, you're expecting to win. You're, you're, you're expecting to be able to go on the road and win.

[Stugotz]

I would call this as important a first game as you could possibly have. The vibes are so weird right now that I just feel like if this game goes poorly, the whole season is going to go to shit. If they have a good game, we're going to have a good season. I literally think that their whole entire season just is going to be determined off the vibes of this game.

[Mike Ryan]

This is a must win game.

[Stugotz]

We did that earlier in the week.

[Dan Le Batard]

Billy and Greg, Bill, again, Greg have said this. Did you get that Big Mac stuff? Did you end up doing anything? Because I ended up talking, talking to Big Mac in the carport about the Dolphins this season. And what he said was, if they win this game, he thinks they're going to go 15 2, and if they lose, the season's over.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, wow.

[Stugotz]

So he agrees.

[Mike Ryan]

And as an impartial, I look at this game and I see a couple eight and nines cutting it up.

[Dan Le Batard]

I that's, that's the argument I've been making to people when they tell me, I think the Dolphins sucks, bro.

[Stugotz]

Oh, it does. I'm not saying it's a great game.

[Mike Ryan]

But I zero juice to this game.

[Stugotz]

No, but from a Dolphins fan perspective, there is like, I know. Like, like last night, the Cowboys, I like, they lost that game. I feel like it's not all crumbling there. Whereas if the Dolphins lose, I just think it's so broken. Tyreek will go off, fly off the handle. It's an important, it's as important as game one, as game one can be.

[Mike Ryan]

My expectation is by game six, you'll be saying this is as, as important of a game six as there can be because it could go either way because they're going to be hovering around exactly where they are right now. 500.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's one of my favorite things that the lower half of the league does and the lower half of the league's fans do, where Dolphin fans are like, colts aren't any good. And Colts fans are like, dolphins aren't any good. They're looking at you like it's a mirror. It's the spider Man.

[Mike Ryan]

We gotta beat the Dolphins.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, if the canopy.

[Stugotz]

We're saying we're average, they're kind of average too.

[Mike Ryan]

Mediocre. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get you to admit.

[Stugotz]

So I'm glad I never said that these are two good teams. I just do think that the Dolphin season can go in two directions. And I think that it's so fragile right now that a bad performance in this week.

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

But Big Mac is saying that the two directions are 15 and two or two and 15.

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[Dan Le Batard]

He did guarantee it, but, man, he. I thought of him last night as that was happening. I'm like, that guarantees not going to mean something here if CD Lamb catches a couple of balls.

[Stugotz]

I had a fun interaction with him this week because he was kind of up away. Like, sometimes he's out where I can walk right by him and sometimes it's like a 50ft away wave thing. And I just like, what's up?

[Mike Ryan]

What's up?

[Stugotz]

He goes, hey, what's up, Billy?

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean.

[Stugotz]

And like, as I kept walking, he just like called me Billy and then realized I'm not Billy. And then he just kind of tailed off.

[Mike Ryan]

He's going to hear this.

[Stugotz]

No, I mean, he knew it. Like, that's like. It was funny.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you guys have any thoughts on the report of Bill Belichick banning Patriots staff from North Carolina scouting and practices?

[Mike Ryan]

This is a mess. I'm so happy you won Gas Bag of the week. And none of that fell on me because I knew this was gonna be bad from the start. This is a mess. And he's got. Just got the weird girlfriend thing around too. It's just all bad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Speaking of messes, I meant to tell the audience and you guys of. Cause I. Some of these still. After 20 years, I still leave here some days with a bit of a film on me on how it I could have been better and not fallen flat. And what we did yesterday with that Mickey Harrison interview, that didn't please anybody because I assure you that the Heat weren't happy about that interview either. And I say that without even having talked to anybody about it, the amount of failure in that, when we could have done a really good five minutes if we had just asked 40 super fast true or false and yes and no questions to actually abide by the 5 minute restriction. I have not been able for 24 hours to get any of that off me. I've still got it on me today. Even though the football season has started and, and even though Pablo's got like the biggest hit podcast that there is, not just in sports right now. Like, he is just crushing it, you know? Do you. I. I've got to imagine the Athletic has never had anything downloaded the way that that was downloaded. And that's your first episode. It's the first thing you. And that's. That's where you're placing the expectations. Very high, low feeling for me yesterday.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, we've heard confirmed. Not. Not sure exactly where it stacks, but one of the. The biggest podcasts in the history of the Athletic, which is saying a lot because David Ornstein's on that network. Like, there's been huge soccer stories, huge transfers, but as a debut, though, to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Come out crazy, to come out of the box with a story you've been holding for seven months and you did.

[Mike Ryan]

That shit interview with Mickey Harrison.

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[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I bet you would.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Fire if I just snuck in a Saudi Arabia question.

[Chris Cote]

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

Don LeBatard all right, we gotta go back out there. That was big. Wake him up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, he doesn't want. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that. As a result, he needs something that happens.

[Stugotz]

You can see Mother effing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can we bother?

[Stugotz]

Are we bothering you right now?

[Dan Le Batard]

Turn on your microphone. My microphone's on st.

[Stugotz]

Paint the scene. The paint the scene is.

[Dan Le Batard]

I gotta go to work. Good night.

[Chris Cote]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am very excited about this because this is my mother's favorite actor. I'm a little creeped out by how much she likes him. He's an abuelo, but he's also a Sex symbol. And his son is more handsome than he is. And he's performing in Miami September 12th. He's a DJ. And they're perpetually arguing about the Dolphins. So I will simply start here. Andy Garcia, ever forever hopeful, the optimist. What are the Dolphins going to be this season? Super bowl champs, I guess me, but what is that? What? No, you can't be serious.

[Andy Garcia]

I. I think we're going to make the playoffs this year.

[Dan Le Batard]

Andy, you're always hopeful and you're always wrong. Like we're going to get to the playoffs and get to the super bowl has not had a playoff victory this century.

[Andy Garcia]

I understand. I was there when Joe our returned the opening kickoff in the 60s. So I understand the entire history of this team. I was there with Marino, I was there with Don Shula, I was there with Bob Griesy, I was there with Larry Zonka. And I understand. Having said that, I like the team. I think we have a stronger offensive line, that we got weapons. If people stay healthy, I think we have a good chance at the playoffs. And once you're in the playoffs, you know, know, anything goes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Andy, they've been drafting offensive linemen and haven't been able to block anybody for 25 years.

[Andy Garcia]

Like, don't get started about the draft. Don't get started because, you know, we didn't draft Lamar Jackson when we didn't have a quarterback. You know, we didn't draft Aaron Rodgers, we didn't pick up Drew Brees. You know, so let's. There's a whole history of maybe some bad draft choices when we needed the different people that we can agree on, that we agree on. You know, how you not. How you not draft Lamar Jackson when he was there as a potential. This guy was an untouchable quarterback in college. Nobody can touch him. It's like playing flag football. You couldn't put your hands on him. You got to draft that guy. He can turn your franchise around, especially.

[Andy Garcia's Son]

When you have nothing to lose as a franchise. At the point we were at, and it was, I think Tannehill was on the last year of a contract coming off an injury.

[Andy Garcia]

And even if he was a dynamics backup for a while and you have 20 plays for him, but you can't touch him, how do you not draft that guy?

[Dan Le Batard]

Now what happened with Lamar Josh, now you're getting into the spirit. Now I'm seeing some of that lat that they could have drafted Lamar Jackson. Now the optimist finally sees that, you know, 25 years of failure. Make it so your Assessment of the cornerbacks, for example, this year is what Andy, you certainly can't be positive about their defensive back play this year.

[Andy Garcia]

Recently we picked up a couple guys, you know, some vets think Douglas, right, came on board.

[Dan Le Batard]

Maybe you're positive. So you're feeling positive about even their cornerbacks. Like there, there is nothing that your greatest criticism is they failed to get Lamar Jackson. But everything else, sunshine, rainbows and fairy tales.

[Andy Garcia]

Like I say, I'm always optimistic. I think that's one of the situations in the defense that will remains to be seen. But we have a very strong defensive line which obviously helps the safeties and the cornerbacks and protection if we put pressure on the quarterback.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can see the look on Bones, his face. He doesn't want to disrespect his father publicly. He does not. He doesn't agree with this.

[Chris Cote]

I mean, I got the death chart.

[Andy Garcia's Son]

Right here in front of me. Yeah, my dad is right. If our defensive line can stay healthy, which it is, Chop Robinson, Bradley Chubb, Zach Sealer, Kenneth Grant, the rookie Judon.

[Dan Le Batard]

Will be, will be a pass rusher too, for them. And Jalen Phillips, but stay healthy. They've been hurt.

[Andy Garcia's Son]

If that group goes down, like, God forbid, we don't want any of that to happen. But if that group, if that group starts to crumble a little bit, then, you know, you got Storm Duck on the back end getting tossed into cornerback lawyers. I'm not sure a lot of people right now know who Storm Duck is. I don't think he's a household name, but it's really interesting what's happened with our DV room. We just brought in Minka Fitzpatrick again after letting go of him. That just goes to show some of the dysfunctionality that has happened with the Dolphins.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me ask you this, Andy. How do you feel in general about Chris Greer, the job that Chris Greer, the general manager, has done?

[Andy Garcia]

I like Chris. I like Chris. He's a friend. I would say I don't have the complete knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes to be able to criticize moves because sometimes there are factors that we as fans don't understand. What's going down, you know, how does.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Garcia household feel when Tua's now outside of the pocket and in the.

[Andy Garcia]

Open field because we scream, no, no, no, no. Go down, slide. Throw the ball away.

[Dan Le Batard]

What does it sound like? Can I. Can I grab the inner thespian in you and see if I can summon what it feels like to sitting next to Andy Garcia at his angriest? What he's spitting at the screen. What does that sound like?

[Andy Garcia]

Well, to me, it's like, who the are you looking? There's a guy open in the corner.

[Dan Le Batard]

Of the end zone. Who the are you throwing to? Right. That's got to go Spanish, too, right?

[Andy Garcia]

But no, because, you know, depending who you're screaming at, they don't speak Spanish, you know?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, I see. Oh, I thought the emotion would get so high that you're just screaming curses, but you want to be heard by whoever it is you're screaming at through.

[Andy Garcia]

The tv, you know, I'm screaming at a TV in Los Angeles. You know what I'm saying? Trying to get them to listen. At Hard Rock.

[Andy Garcia's Son]

I just go to my room and lock the door.

[Andy Garcia]

You know, See? Goes in the. If we're. If things are going bad, right in the first quarter, he says, I'm out. And he goes upstairs, and he probably watches it on the TV by himself.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, really?

[Andy Garcia]

In the second half, he'll come down where we've gotten back into the game, and he crawls back into the theater, you know, the screening room.

[Dan Le Batard]

So is it frustration with the team, with your father?

[Andy Garcia's Son]

Sometimes the energy is already very nice in the household, and I don't want to ruin it with the pain that I'm feeling.

[Dan Le Batard]

Andy, what would you say is the most hurt the Dolphins have ever left you after a single game where you are just really feeling it? Can't sleep at night because. Because one of them got a way.

[Andy Garcia]

Wow, there's been so many.

[Stugotz]

Rolodex.

[Dan Le Batard]

I feel like you're. You're reticent because you don't want to be publicly, before the season, not hopeful. But your father is delusional and doesn't learn anything from 25 years of scarlet.

[Andy Garcia's Son]

Exactly what it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, I'm glad. I'm glad we hashed this out. I'm glad we talked about it. We'll continue couples counseling. I. I hope on whatever it is this Dolphin season is. Jolene, Sound Room, September 12th. He is a DJ, and we will be playing his music here at some point. Andy, give me a prediction against the Colts. I want to hold you to it. It.

[Andy Garcia]

It's a win. We're going. We're going to win. I don't have a score. I don't care about this guy. We can win three.

[Mike Ryan]

Get my score?

[Andy Garcia]

27. 10.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, really? A blowout over Daniel on the road? Okay, and. And, Bones, your thoughts here? You're. You're hopeful. You can be hopeful and optimistic.

[Stugotz]

You know what?

[Andy Garcia's Son]

You know what? I. I am going to say we will win and I'll tell you why. I don't think the Colts have a lot of firepower against us right now. They don't have a lot of weapons on offense, so. So if we can get rolling on offense, we are playing indoors, which is a huge plus for us as we. As we know. And I do think it's a win if we can get off hot, get our playmakers the ball. So I think 27 to 20.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, you're pretty close to agreeing there. I'm gonna have to work on this, see if we can get a little.

[Andy Garcia]

More 10 points apart, man. So we're always 10 points apart.

[Dan Le Batard]

27 to 20.

[Andy Garcia's Son]

I think it's up. But the next couple of weeks. I. I don't know.

[Andy Garcia]

What about you, oh lord of intelligence, Football intelligence?

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, I. I've just been beaten down by what it is that I've seen and I don't dare to be hopeful with a quarterback who can get hurt. More likely to get hurt. I. I don't often say something like this, but more likely to get hurt if you were gambling on it than any quarterback in the league. Even though all that stuff is random. I just that it's such a flimsy foundation to be able to hope that that guy can stay healthy and produce throws in two seconds all season and won't get hurt. I like it. Just. I've seen it a couple of seasons where I'm doing shows where I'm worried about the man's health and whether he should retire with the next time his head gets hit.

[Andy Garcia]

This is true. This is true. That's why he's got to be very careful and, and the old line has to help always in that situation. Listen, people sneak through the. A good old line. People do sneak through and you got to be smart enough to just lay down and you live. Live to play another play.

[Stugotz]

Dan, I missed your prediction.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think they're going to lose to the Colts on the road.

[Andy Garcia]

Jesus.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow. Christ Daniel Jones. You really think we're that bad? Yeah, it's not that I think that you're that bad. It's that I believe that you're about the same as the Colts and the Colts are at home. It's. I don't think the Colts are as bad as you guys think they are.

[Andy Garcia]

Wow. So you start the season with a loss. This is. This is how you start you your season with the Dolphins. They're going to lose the first game.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am an asshole. It is obvious to Everybody listening. I will put myself in the penalty penalty box sent there by Andy Garcia. And Bones, that is a terrible start to the season by me. Gentlemen, thank you for your optimism, thank you for your hope, and thank you for your time. We love you, man.

[Andy Garcia]

All right, Gracias. Fins up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fins up. Do it, Dan.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

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