Hour 1: Jeremy's Legendary Show

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode Title: Hour 1: Jeremy's Legendary Show
Date: March 20, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

Episode Overview

This episode dives into a classic hour of sports banter, inside jokes, and Miami-centric fandom as Dan, Stugotz, and the crew riff on Jeremy’s “legendary” laugh, memorable NBA moments, the Miami Hurricanes’ big game, shocking NFL proposals, and a wild debate on Michael Jordan’s legacy. Peppered with chaos, playful jabs, and signature multi-voice tangents, the crew navigates everything from NCAA tournament excitement to NFL scheduling drama, punctuated by stories about Heat “scrub killers” and a cameo from Diplo, who reveals the origins of his stage name.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jeremy’s Infamous Laugh & “Kawhi Leonard Moment”

[01:23-04:42]

• The crew fixates on Jeremy’s awkward, unintentional laugh, comparing it to Kawhi Leonard’s viral chuckle.
  • Jeremy: "I was trying... so nobody gave Tommy anything on something. That was a funny story. And so in my brain, I'm like, all right, well, I got a fake laugh because I got to fill this space." [02:09]
  • Tony/Mike: React in real-time, amplify the comparison, and Chris even overlays audio to produce “laugh harmony.”
  • Dan declares: "Guys, this might replace Hakeem Nicks. We might have a new Hakeem Nicks laugh." [03:06]
• Discussion of legendary show laughs, with a reference to a past Hakeem Nicks fake laugh.
  • Dan: "You've won best laugh. Best limited fake. All in one, in one swoop. And also, you've retired the Hakeem Nicks laugh. So this is a legendary performance." [04:28]

2. Miami Hurricanes Basketball NCAA Tournament Preview

[05:06-07:56]

• Anticipation for the Canes’ late tip in the NCAA tournament vs. Missouri, with classic Miami pessimism and hope:
  • Jeremy: "It'd be disappointing if they lose tonight." [06:41]
  • Dan: “It's been a brilliant first season...surpassing wildest expectations. And now it's just like how much higher can the watermark get?” [06:18]
• Discussion about game location disadvantages (St. Louis) and potential Sweet 16 runs.
• Viewing habits in March Madness, including frustration at the lull between games.

3. March Madness Viewing Habits & Strategy

[07:56-08:19]

• Chris explains his betting strategy: First-half is for assessment, second half for betting.
• Dan: Endorses heavy underdog “moneyline sprinkle” bets for upset potential: “Yesterday, your boy was rolling in it.” [09:13]

4. “Better Than Jordan” – The Athletic Feat Game

[09:38-14:15]

• Tony debuts a parody game: Find athletic feats better than any done by Michael Jordan.
  • Tony: "There was a play where Cade Cunningham...brought it around and then laid it up on the other side of the hoop. That was better than anything Michael Jordan did athletically." [10:47]
  • Dan/Dave push back, debating the technical and aesthetic difficulty of the famous Jordan layup.
  • Dan: “The level of difficulty of what Michael did was greater.” [12:54]
• Dave Damaschek’s evidence for MJ’s “GOAT” status: "Just watch [the 63-point game against the Celtics] and watch how he gets those points. Double, triple clutching...you still haven’t seen anybody do that." [13:26]
• Playful accusations of “Jordan honk” bias.

5. NFL 18-Game Schedule Debate

[17:58-26:09]

• Dan introduces Mike Florio’s report that, with an 18-game NFL season, players could only play 17 games—so everyone must skip a game.
  • “So you essentially...have to identify a game in which you would sit out stars from your top line superstars to the last man on the roster.” [18:55]
• The crew theorizes how teams would game-plan benching QBs and other key players:
  • Dave: “I would be willing to bet you that at least 30 of the 32 head coaches sit their starting QB in week one. ... It has to be that way.” [21:11]
  • Concerns about competitive fairness, sports records, and stats: “We need to settle universally on going with players’ per-game averages.” [26:09]
• Tony raises the issue for position players and award races: “My ninth defensive lineman, I need him to play instead of Miles Garrett.” [26:09]

6. Diplo's Backstory: The DJ Named After a Dinosaur

[27:33-30:01]

• Diplo tells Dan the origins of his stage name, stemming from a childhood obsession with dinosaurs—specifically the Diplodocus—given as a nickname by a girl in high school.
  • Diplo: “I loved the Diplodocus. At a point in time, it was the biggest animal on the world...So there was this girl that gave me the nickname in high school, Diplodocus.” [29:10]
• He details his winding path: anthropology degree, wanting to work for National Geographic, before becoming a DJ.

7. NBA: Luka’s 60-Point Night & Heat’s “Random Scrub Killers”

[30:01-34:39]

• The crew reacts to Luka Doncic’s 60-point explosion vs. the Heat, noting high individual scoring is met with a “shrug” today.
  • Jeremy: "I found myself watching it and thinking, man, if this were, like, 10 years ago, be saying, this is an unbelievable performance." [30:20]
• Mike recounts the Heat’s historical list of 50+ point games, with “random” legends like Willie Burton—traded by the Heat, returned to drop 53 points.
• Dan: “For Heat fans, it's always been random scrub Heat killers. That's always been the thing.” [34:00]

8. Malik Willis and the "Request a Trade" Conversation

[34:46-40:42]

• Dave questions whether new Dolphins QB Malik Willis should request a trade, inspired by recent NFL player maneuverings. Raises the point if teams can null contracts unilaterally, why not players?
• Jeremy & Dan push back, insisting Willis wasn’t blindsided by the Waddle trade, likely signed given his options and the Dolphins’ pitch.
  • Tony: "You know what didn't catch him by surprise? $45 million guaranteed..." [37:03]
• Dave argues Malik Willis may be set up to fail due to lack of weapons, possibly playing himself out of a job.

9. NCAA Games To Watch Beyond Miami

[41:00-41:27]

• Tony: "Give me Texas Tech at Akron. Give me the Zips."
• Dave: Calls out Tony for not being able to name a player.
• Dan: Chimes in with a classic misdirect: "They have a Mitchell. They have to." [41:27]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Le Batard [03:06]: "That's unbelievable. That's harmony. Oh, my God. Guys, this might replace Hakeem Nicks. We might have a new Hakeem Nicks laugh."
• Tony [10:47]: "That was better than anything Michael Jordan did athletically. Dave Damaschek. I'm sorry if you're a Michael Jordan honk."
• Dave Damaschek [13:26]: "Just watch [the 63-point game] and watch how he gets those points. Double, triple clutching...you still haven’t seen anybody do that."
• Dan Le Batard [18:55]: "You have to identify a game in which you would sit out stars from your top line superstars to the last man on the roster."
• Tony [26:09]: "Miles Garrett is going for the sack record, but...you can't break the sack record. You got to sit this game."
• Diplo [29:10]: "I loved the Diplodocus. At a point in time, it was the biggest animal on the world...So there was this girl that gave me the nickname in high school, Diplodocus."
• Dan Le Batard [34:00]: "For Heat fans, it's always been random scrub Heat killers. ... I'll remember the Marcus Thornton game more than I'll remember the James Harden game."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Jeremy’s laugh & Kawhi Leonard bit: 01:23 – 04:42
• Miami Hurricanes NCAA talk: 05:06 – 07:56
• March Madness viewing/gambling: 07:56 – 09:38
• “Better Than Jordan” game: 09:38 – 14:15
• NFL 18-game schedule proposal: 17:58 – 26:09
• Diplo’s nickname/dinosaur story: 27:33 – 30:01
• Luka’s 60, Heat “random killer” history: 30:01 – 34:39
• Malik Willis “request a trade”: 34:46 – 40:42
• Non-Canes NCAA games to watch: 41:00 – 41:27

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Conclusion

This episode is a perfect distillation of the show’s strengths: irreverent comedy, local South Florida flavor, pop-culture pivots, playful arguments about sports history, and inside-jokes that make the studio feel like a clubhouse. Standouts include Jeremy’s viral laugh, hilarious Michael Jordan sacrilege, and deep Miami sports fandom. Even for the uninitiated, it’s a wild, entertaining listen—equal parts sports radio, improv, and Miami family reunion.

Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach podcast.

[Jeremy]

So I think we glossed over this a little too fast. Earlier in the show today, Jeremy had a weird laugh. All right, Jeremy had a weird laugh when the great Tommy Hutton joined us today. Let me hear the Jeremy laugh again, please. All right. Is it just me?

[Tony]

I've heard that before.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, right.

[Tony]

I've heard that before.

[Jeremy]

Right, so it's not just me because it sounds awfully similar to Kawhi Leonard.

[Tony]

Dude, that's so weird.

[Mike]

No, that is really weird.

[Jeremy]

All right, so hold on. Let's Give me Jeremy again now. Now that we have the evidence in front of us, give me Jeremy again.

[Dave Damaschek]

Okay.

[Jeremy]

Weird.

[Tony]

What were you doing there? What happened to your mind?

[Mike]

I was trying. So nobody gave Tommy anything on something. That was a funny story. And so in my brain, I'm like, all right, well, I got a fake laugh because I got to fill this space. It was awkward for me personally, with my personal relationship there.

[Tony]

We saw you, and.

[Mike]

And so I tried to fill it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was.

[Dave Damaschek]

And I think whatever.

[Mike]

I think whatever was going on in the recesses of.

[Tony]

And the recesses of your mind came out.

[Dave Damaschek]

Why Leonard?

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Like, pulled the Kawhi Leonard laugh and was like, that's.

[Dave Damaschek]

That's a fake laugh.

[Mike]

That works. It's not. Oh, it was really strange.

[Dan Le Batard]

Usually, like when someone does something that that's not that funny, you'll give them, like, anyways, Tommy up the middle. Well, nobody was going to ask question.

[Jeremy]

Instead, he. You just decided I was ready for

[Dave Damaschek]

Z to ask a question.

[Jeremy]

Let me do a quiet lettered impression.

[Dave Damaschek]

What is going on here?

[Dan Le Batard]

Chris? Chris, I'm gonna give you a task. Can you multi track this?

[Chris]

I already did it.

[Jeremy]

Go for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's unbelievable. That's harmony. Oh, my God. Guys, this might replace Hakeem Nicks. We might have a new Hakeem Nicks laugh.

[Mike]

Kawait Leonard

[Tony]

use that in arbitration.

[Dave Damaschek]

Semantic warrior strikes again.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can I hear that one more time? Astonishing.

[Tony]

Fantastic stuff.

[Mike]

I can't believe it.

[Jeremy]

I mean, I just. I just like the idea. I. I just like that you were so quick thinking on your feet that in order to fill an awkward moment, you said, let's do a Kawhi Leonard impression.

[Dan Le Batard]

It might be time. Hakeem Nix's time might be up. No, I'm telling. I think so.

[Mike]

We cannot retire.

[Tony]

Play the Hakeem Nicks laugh really quick so we can hear it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. For reference, we had Hakeem Nix when he was, you know, on top of the world.

[Dave Damaschek]

He was my favorite player.

[Dan Le Batard]

When we were over at espn, we had Akeem Nix on the show, and he gave us a laugh that, honestly, this one's not even close to me anymore.

[Dave Damaschek]

We are going.

[Chris]

Are we saying, like, the two overlapped is our new laugh?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Yes. Because, like, that's. That's the thing. It's amazing.

[Mike]

Can I win best limited fake?

[Dan Le Batard]

You've won best laugh. Best limited fake. All in one, in one swoop. And also, you've retired the Hakeem Nicks laugh. So this is a legendary performance. I cannot believe I am here for this.

[Mike]

Today is one of the most legendary performances in the history of the show is what you're saying to me.

[Tony]

And Dan's not here to see it in arbitration.

[Mike]

I'll be bringing it to arbitration, though.

[Dave Damaschek]

Don't you worry. It's AI.

[Tony]

It doesn't matter.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is on a. No, it's Kawhi. On a day in which Chuck Norris has passed away, you have found a way to steal the headlines. Unbelievable.

[Tony]

Speechless. Look at him.

[Dan Le Batard]

I really am.

[Mike]

I was waiting for you to fill

[Jeremy]

the time with the Kawhi Leonard impression. Mike, are we excited about the Canes tonight? Canes tonight, number 10, Missouri, gets a home game over number seven, canes. Miami Hurricanes tonight, 10:10pm I'm have to get in a sluff at Some point in the middle of the day.

[Tony]

No way that you're staying up.

[Jeremy]

No way.

[Dave Damaschek]

A schlop.

[Chris]

And I hope it's a nap.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is a schloff, Dave?

[Jeremy]

You know what a schluff is. Come on now, Dave, help me out here.

[Dave Damaschek]

Take a nice slough next to the somatic warrior there.

[Jeremy]

That's right. Take a nap. All right. I got to. I got to get in some shut eye in the middle of the day. I'm going to take a sh. Get myself ready for the game tonight. That's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am super excited for this. But also it's not as high stakes. Now, it depends how these games go. If Miami has a big lead and then they end up losing, I'm going to be devastated. Right. But entering this game, it's a 1.5-point spread. 10:10pm TIP. You're playing Mizzou two hours away from campus in St. Louis. Deck is a little stacked here. Right. But I think it's been a brilliant first season. And God bless Jim Laraniga, but the last two Miami Hurricanes teams have done a lot. It's no coincidence, Dave, that I haven't been filling out Brack. My interest in college basketball is usually tied to the University of Miami and their performance. And it's been a brilliant season, surpassing wildest expectations. And now it's just like how much higher can the watermark get? I love that they're in this tournament again. I get into it.

[Jeremy]

It'd be disappointing if they lose tonight. They're disappointing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've been a Miami Heat, Miami Hurricanes basketball season ticket holder for several years now. I like all these players on this team this year.

[Jeremy]

Did you consider going?

[Dan Le Batard]

I did, I did. Also St. Louis, but Battle Court St. Louis.

[Diplo]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

But if they make it to the

[Dave Damaschek]

underratedly bad town, right? Or not bad town, but like among our major cities. What can you properly tell us besides the Arch about St. Louis? They have burnt end.

[Chris]

I heard John Taffer randomly say the other day that outside of New York, it's like the best bar city in the country. I never heard that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Obviously a lot of breweries out there, big time, major distributors. So I get like, it could be a good beer city. I don't know. I've never been to St. Louis, so that did sweeten the pot a little bit. But if they make it to the sweet 16, it's in San Jose. That's right. The Miami Hurricanes, despite their brilliant season, if they make it all the way to Indianapolis, they don't play a single game in The Eastern time zone. This is crazy. But, yeah, I'm pumped for it. I love this tournament, and I think yesterday delivered. Is there a worse window than that little evening news window where there is, like, maybe one game going on?

[Jeremy]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

It cools you down.

[Jeremy]

It's like between 5:15pm and 6:50pm you got like, nothing happening.

[Dan Le Batard]

I hate that now. I love a lot of sports. I mean, as excited as I am for March madness today, the fifth major's going on the Miami Open, or 28 matches going on today because the weather has impacted it. So there's always something to take my attention. But I hate that little dip in the action just so they can squeeze.

[Dave Damaschek]

Cheerleader effect, right? Isn't that what they call it? Or the cheerleader squad effect or whatever vaguely misogynistic thing it is that it's the collective that catches your eye. But if you focus in too much on any one specific individual, it's not as appealing. That's, to me, March Madness. Yeah, the wall of game.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's like the. It's like the NFL when you have a standalone game that's bad and you're wishing, man, I wish there were like seven of these going on right now.

[Dave Damaschek]

All.

[Dan Le Batard]

All coming to a crescendo at the exact same time. It is a wonderful TV event. It does get a lot better when you know what's going on and you know the players, or at least I player. Like, if you know, I. Mitchell, you already are smarter than 95% of the people out there.

[Chris]

My strategy is just watch the first half, watch these teams for the first time, and then really crush a second half bet. Assess. The first half is for assessment. The second half, we cash it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, you know what I do during March Madness? I'm big on the moneyline sprinkle because there's going to be upsets, right? So. And sometimes you can get big, juicy upsets. So what I do is I put standard two units because it's March Madness. We rise to the occasion. Two unit bets on the spread and then a little moneyline sprinkle on the teams that I think have a good shot of winning outright. Sprinkle those cash. Yesterday, your boy was rolling in it.

[Jeremy]

I want to get to a new game that we have here today, a new segment which is going to be hosted by Tony. Tony, what do you got for us here?

[Tony]

We've got a very exciting new game. We've got music for it. Let's hear it.

[Jeremy]

That's good music.

[Tony]

It's good music, right? So all the old Heads have always told me how great Michael Jordan is and how he did things that were incredible. Feats of athleticism, feats of strength, all these amazing feats. And yet I see something every single night in the NBA that is more athletic than Michael Jordan in his prime. So that's the game. I'm gonna bring you athletic feats, feats of strength, all feats of all kind that are better than Michael Jordan. Again, that was a great. That was a great call by you. You had foot girls way before.

[Dan Le Batard]

They didn't like it.

[Tony]

They didn't like it. They should have liked it. So if we should have liked it, if we can get the video ready for my being told we don't have the video.

[Mike]

Awesome.

[Dave Damaschek]

Good game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Filled with awkward laughter.

[Tony]

Okay, so there was a play where Cade Cunningham caught the ball on the other side of the hoop, then brought it around and then laid it up on the other side of the hoop. That was better than anything Michael Jordan did athletically. Dave Damaschek. I'm sorry if you're a Michael Jordan.

[Dave Damaschek]

Honk.

[Tony]

If you're going to argue with me about this or not. He didn't have to switch hands. Michael Jordan didn't have to go right to left. He didn't have to do that. He could have just gotten left the entire time.

[Dave Damaschek]

I just said half an hour ago that I've called it a career tie with LeBron. Most people my age would say, oh, Michael Jordan obviously is better than anybody.

[Jeremy]

You look a little like a Michael Jordan. Honk. Though. I could see that.

[Tony]

I agree.

[Dave Damaschek]

Well. Well, listen, I was in Chicago for five of his six titles. And. Is that a coincidence? Probably, but I thought I would mention it just the same. The premise of this, though, is, you know, it's sort of like Tony. There. There would be no cheers if there weren't an I Love Lucy. And there wouldn't be a every. It's always sunny in Philadelphia without cheers. So it's progressive. Michael Jordan showed the way, and then the next generation built on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, Dave, here.

[Tony]

We got. We got the video. Now we'll throw it on the screen. So Kate Cunningham catches it on one hand with one hand, and then switches hands underneath the basket. It's almost a Julius Irvin, but he

[Dave Damaschek]

actually tags it on the alley oop.

[Tony]

Again, better than Michael Jordan.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, Jordan. Jordan's layup on the way down because he was switching hands on the way down. Yeah, but he didn't need to switch

[Tony]

hands on the way down. He could have just gotten left.

[Dave Damaschek]

I can't caught that ball with one

[Dan Le Batard]

hand, that looked way more graceful. The difficulty on what Michael Jordan did with the upper body strength as all of his inertia is heading down. You know about inertia? It's inertia to switch hands and bounce it off the top of the bat. Like the strength, the core strength that it takes to do that.

[Tony]

Agreed. Think about what. Let's play the video one more time. He catches it with his right hand underneath the hoop, switches to his left hand underneath the hoop, and then finishes on the other side of the basket with English.

[Dan Le Batard]

Super graceful. Looks more aesthetically pleasing than what Michael did. I think the level of difficulty of what Michael did was greater.

[Tony]

Well, that's why it's my game better than Jordan. I know, I know. Dave Damaschek likes the English comment. Are we. Do we know where the English comment comes from? Do people know what that means? No.

[Dave Damaschek]

That's a great question. By the way. I just want to interject with this. The only evidence I need for Michael Jordan is the 63 point game in against the Celtics. Just watch that alone. I don't need to tap into.

[Tony]

I agree.

[Dave Damaschek]

It was a great career highlight. Just, just watch that game and watch how he gets those points. Double, triple clutching. People forget. It becomes rhetorical when you make your case for Michael Jordan and it becomes about clutch shots at the buzzer and all of that. Go back and watch that game, how he is getting those points in the paint. Double, triple clutching, changing shot angles and Otherwise you still. 30, 40 years after the fact, still haven't seen anybody.

[Tony]

Dave, the thing I remember from the 63 point game is him crossing between the legs three times in the corner on Larry Bird and hitting a jumper. That's what I remember.

[Dave Damaschek]

Okay, well, go watch the whole game and you will.

[Tony]

You're a Michael Jordan. Honk. I knew it. I knew it.

[Dave Damaschek]

I am not. I just made a case for LeBron James. What are you talking. I made a case a half an hour ago for the greatness of LeBron James.

[Tony]

You said it was a wash. You didn't get. You didn't talk about the greatness of LeBron James. You said it was a wash. You're impartial.

[Dave Damaschek]

You're sweet.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're Switzerland grading on a curve. Hey, Roy, buddy. Yo. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely. Mike.

[Dave Damaschek]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

You've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you Take your first sip of Cuervo.

[Tony]

Oh, delicious.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Cuervo, man. It's that high five. A random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it Cuervo.

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[Dave Damaschek]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dave Damaschek]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Tony]

Second down to nine.

[Jeremy]

This is the Dunlap Avatar show with the stugats.

[Dave Damaschek]

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[Dan Le Batard]

or don't you do you remember when you would sign up for SI and they'd give you the Michael Jordan vhs? That was great. That's how I know so much about Michael Jordan.

[Tony]

I don't remember that actually targeted in this.

[Dave Damaschek]

I feel like I'm being attacked when I am advocating for the greatness of LeBron James.

[Tony]

He said it was a wash. I mean, how about what great Take a stance.

[Dave Damaschek]

I give any human being than to say he is as great. His career at the end of it is as great as the greatest player in the history of people. It is now officially a tie in the book of Dave.

[Dan Le Batard]

Damn, Dave, you're the host of Football America. I want to switch gears here. There was something that caught my eye and I want to talk to you about and maybe we can chew on a couple because I know you have a very interesting little hypothetical when it comes to the Miami Dolphins. But yesterday I saw Mike Florio join Rich Eisen and there was all this talk about the NFL adding an 18th game, right? And he pointed out that the super bowl coming up in Atlanta in two years does not have a set date and how strange that is because this close to it, people need to start blocking off hotels, convention centers. And the reason that there isn't a set date for this super bowl in Atlanta is because with JC Tretter now representing the players union, the NFL, with all these broadcast rights being locked in, they're going to be really aggressive and they want to get an additional regular season game done. Now that's super interesting and worthy of debate, but Mike Florio added a very interesting twist to this. And the twist is while they're adding an extra game, the caveat is players can only play 17 regular season games during a season. So you essentially, tactically, with your front office, your coaches and your roster have to identify a game in which you would sit out stars from your top line superstars to the last man on the roster. What's the game that we're going to skip for you? I found that very interesting.

[Jeremy]

Even the quarterback?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Yes. Now, I have a theory as to how this might play out. But first, Dave, how did that land with you?

[Commercial Announcer]

I.

[Dave Damaschek]

This is the first I've heard of it, to be honest.

[Dan Le Batard]

And double buy is also a part of this proposal like multiple buys in a season now as well.

[Dave Damaschek]

So the man is imposing load management on the players. That, that, that is fascinating and you know, it really does. The thing that that reveals is that clearly the man only cares about the revenue. I mean I, I mean I. Obviously we already know that but really it lays bare the fact that it ain't about anything other than an extra game is going to make us more money because why else how else would you justify. Yeah, well, play the backup qb. That's all right. People still watch. So let me basically what it comes down to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's chew on the strategy of this because you have, you have this game in which you know that, you know we're not going to be able to start Joe Burrow. Now Joe Burrow might be injured and that takes care of that. But let's say Joe Burrow is playing an entire healthy season. Do you waste your game that you play your extra buy for Joe Burrow early at the start of the season? Do you anticipate he may be injured if he's coming into a game with a bit of a knock? Look, rather than risk you having further injury, we're going to hold you from this game. Or do you take the data from the last few seasons where we've had an extended regular season. We've had the 17 games, right. If you know what those games look like towards the end of the season. There's a lot of backups playing usually towards the end of the season in that sport the cream starts to rise to the top.

[Dave Damaschek]

No way, man. No way, man. I would be willing to bet you that at least 30 of the 32 head coaches sit there starting QB in week one. They just treated it really extended preseason. I mean it has to be that way. How? Well I mean that would be asinine if it came down to it. A week 18 or what I'm now like your team has to win the game and it's like well we never sat the starting quarterback so now we have to.

[Chris]

Wouldn't you just do your weakest opponent like early in the season? Like I kind of with you in

[Dave Damaschek]

theory but if you're.

[Chris]

If it's Chiefs, Bills, week one. I'm not sitting Mahomes against the bill.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's also bulletin board material, Chris. But I think that you have it in your holster to see like who's carrying a knock on them and all right, we're usually where we wouldn't give you a day off, we're going to hold you back here. And then I'd wait till the very last week because so many teams are out of it by then. You add an additional week. I think the good teams by then will even further separate themselves than when they are now. And I just hold it to the end of the season.

[Tony]

My worry is, okay, that's a singular position, right? The quarterback. There's only one of them.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right. But this happens for every position on the roster, right?

[Tony]

So you're talking about a cornerback and you need somebody in a specific coverage. But you're like, I'm not playing my nickel corner today, so I'm not going to have. We're not playing nickel at all. We're not playing dime. We're just. We're going to have two corners and that's it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I imagine they'll expand the practice squad rosters too, and the players union will take that as a victory because it's more jobs for more guys. But you also can't go into a game in which, hey, everybody's resting because that, that's also unsustainable. You can't do that.

[Dave Damaschek]

I think, I think you. Then I'm going to lean into what I said. I'm sorry. It's early for me. So this is all. This is overwhelming, the amount of information. And I think you have it mostly right, Mike. But I'll stand by what I said. Week one would be the week that I think almost every head coach would have to circle. You cannot let it go and see, I mean, the Baltimore Ravens, if I'm not mistaken, had the best, had the shortest or second shortest odds in the AFC to get to the super bowl last. Imagine if John Harbaugh had waited to week 18 and had. Had never sat Lamar Jackson. And now he does have to sit Lamar Jackson in the game that they have to win to go to the playoffs. He might lose his job over something like that. Oh, wait. But either way, yeah, it would be week one. Everybody would do it because it, it, it's logical in the sense that you're extending preseason when your backup QB is getting a ton of reps already. So you would just say, let's keep that train moving for one more week and then we flip the script in week two to our starting cue.

[Chris]

But what if I want to have a strategy of I'm going to sit my quarterback? When I'm playing a team that's sitting their quarterback, does the home team get to say last?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I don't.

[Dave Damaschek]

Available.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know how disclosure works. I don't know if this can be saved up to game time. I. If they do this, I'd like it to be announced ahead of time so you can bake it into Friday. You have to say who's starting. Here's why I disagree. And Zaz, I'd love your input here. Here's why I disagree with what Dave is saying about week one. You mean to tell me if Lamar Jackson's playing 17 games, you're not already in the playoffs like that? That's a great problem to have, especially if you have a great quarterback. You save that baby. Because if my qb, one that I believe in is playing the entire season and I have to wonder, oh, man, we're getting close to the end of the season. What game am I going to reserve this, this 18th game pass that I have for this guy? You're already in the playoffs and you probably wouldn't play him already.

[Jeremy]

I think it's interesting how Dave sees it as the NFL just saying, yeah, we're doing it. Like the fact that guys can only play 17, okay, there's going to be one game where the quarterback doesn't play, the star receiver, the star running back doesn't play. The NFL is clearly saying it doesn't matter the quality of the game. It's just about the money. I actually look at it the other way, where it's the NFL telling you what we're doing right here is clearly not safe. And so we're only going to allow players to play 17 games. Like, that's what the NFL to me is saying.

[Dan Le Batard]

And part of the proposal is an additional buy as the season gets longer.

[Tony]

More.

[Dan Le Batard]

You have two bye weeks now as opposed to the one. And the player only plays 17 games. So, yeah, there's a concession there. It does make the game safer. I think the players union is going to love being able to have more jobs for more guys having an additional bye week during the season. I kind of like this and I like the tactics of it. I like that. Look, we all have different opinions on this. Franchises are going to approach this a different way.

[Tony]

I just feel like obviously football is a war of attrition. At the end of the day, you only have so many guys that are available to play on a given time in week 16, 17 and 18. So it's like, all right, Miles Garrett is going for the sack record, but he's been fighting the sack record the entire time. He doesn't want to take a week off. And then all of a sudden it's like, Sorry, buddy. You can't break the sack record. You got to sit this game. Oh, no. What are we going to do? My ninth defensive lineman, I need him to play instead of Miles Garrett.

[Dave Damaschek]

As a side note, or a bit related, though, is I think we really do need to. As a sports following society and in the world of advanced analytics and all of that, we need to settle universally on going with players per game averages in all sports pretty much now, but especially in the NFL, because we're very casual while mentioning, hey, the Saquon Barkley is the whatever player to hit 2,000 yards. Yeah. He did it in 17 games, not 16. And now when you expand to 18 games and one of those games he gets to take off, it's going to get real murky. So instead of trying to track modern players against guys from 1986 and everything else, the only way to even it up is to go by per game averages. Right. For people who care about statistics, which should be most people who follow sports,

[Jeremy]

this is very controversial. Very controversial topic. Don LeBatard. My algorithm on Instagram. It's Dan. It's all boobs.

[Dan Le Batard]

STS.

[Jeremy]

It's a good algorithm. This is the D? Ler show with the St. This week's episode of South Beach Sessions.

[Dave Damaschek]

All right.

[Jeremy]

Dan has Diplo Piguet.

[Tony]

You know about that diploma?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, of course I know about Diplo

[Dan Le Batard]

that you're named after.

[Dave Damaschek]

Like, what. What is that all about?

[Diplo]

I was really obsessed with paleontology as a kid. Like, I was really into dinosaurs.

[Dan Le Batard]

You were gonna. You were gonna be that, correct.

[Diplo]

That was the thing that I. In high school, I was like, that's not a real idea. That's too crazy. That's, like, not even a job.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, let me be a dj. That's not a job.

[Diplo]

What I'm gonna do is be a dj. Even. Even weirder. I got my degree in anthropology after the dinosaur thing didn't work out for me. I was like, I want to be. I want to work for National Geographic. I want to travel and I want to take photos. I want to make doc. I want to, like, document things, thinking, care about money. I just wanted to be like. I just was obsessed with. With culture as, like a. As an idea. I got all the way through school, graduated from Temple, and then I applied to. For film and anthropology school at fsu. I got accepted. I, like, spent a year off. I worked in Italy. I worked at Colors magazine. They. They hired me there for. Somehow I sent them, like, an application, and they were like, you're pretty weird. They flew me To Italy. I worked there. Made some cool stuff for 90 colors of Benetton. I got accepted to grad school, and I was, like, working. They were making music, trying stuff. You know, living by the skin of my teeth, like, barely paying rent. My dad called me. He's, like, so excited. He was like, you got into grad school? Like, I can't believe you did that. Like, he was, like, so super. He's like, how did you get into grad school? And I was like, dad, I'm gonna be a dj. And he was like, I think he hung up on me. And then it took him, like, another five, ten years to really see me be a dj. He was really. He's such a kind, nice guy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think you answered my dinosaur question.

[Diplo]

Okay, so that was the. That was where it started. I loved the Diplodocus. At a point in time, it was the biggest animal on the world. Longest dinosaur, blue whales. A little bigger than him. I was obsessed with, like, the size of this dinosaur. So there was this girl that gave me the nickname in high school, Diplodocus. She called me that. I don't know why. She had a kind of, like, a funny face. She kind of looked like a giraffe. So I used to call her. She had, like, these lips that were like a giraffe when you eat, like, leaves and stuff.

[Dan Le Batard]

So she called me a terrible.

[Diplo]

Yeah, she was. It was like a girlfriend kind of. We just made fun of her a lot, and, you know, she gave me that name. And I was, like, doing little parties in Daytona and, like, Orlando, and that was, like, the artist name I picked. And then I got signed to Ninja Tune on that mixtape, and I changed my name to Diplo because it was too. No one could pronounce Diplodocus. And then that's been it. That was, like, 30 years ago.

[Jeremy]

So that's this week. Diplo sits down with Dan on South beach sessions last night. Yeah. LeBron had a triple double last night here against the Heat, but Luca had 60, and I found myself, like, he was cooking. Yeah, he was incredible. And I think he was 18 of 30 from the floor. He was incredible.

[Mike]

He was.

[Jeremy]

And I found myself watching it and thinking, man, if this were, like, 10 years ago, be saying, this is an unbelievable performance. 60 points. And I feel like it's kind of greeted with a little bit of a shrug of the shoulders these days. Yeah, he scored 60 a week and

[Chris]

a half after Bam got eight.

[Jeremy]

Right.

[Dave Damaschek]

That is part of it.

[Tony]

Preconditioned to, like, 83 of like 60s, like.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, that's certainly part of it. But 60 points, Jeremy. 60 points. The most points ever scored by a Miami Heat opponent, right?

[Chris]

That's right.

[Mike]

Yep. He scored 60 points last night that he'd have never given up more this season. Jalen Brunson had scored 47. That was the most they'd given up. There are only 11 guys all time who have scored 50 or more against the Heat. And this list is pretty funny.

[Jeremy]

Have we counted playoffs too?

[Mike]

I believe these are all regular.

[Tony]

A lot of go to people on this list or what?

[Mike]

I believe.

[Jeremy]

So there are Jordan at 56. Game three, 1992, then.

[Mike]

No, these are all regular season games.

[Chris]

I need to know what the goat performance against the Heat is.

[Mike]

Are we going regular season? Because I can go through this list. Let's do it. Let's from. From the regular season. So I'll just go up from. From 11. There are three guys tied at 50. You have Michael Jordan, you have Carmelo Anthony, you have Trey young. Then at 51, Alex English, Vince Carter and LeBron James.

[Tony]

Dave Damaschek. Alex English. There it is. That's why. That's why we put the English on the ball. English. Wow.

[Dave Damaschek]

Mystery solved. Alex English put up 50 plus on the Miami Heat. Is that what you just said?

[Mike]

That is what it says right here in 1989. March 10th of 1989.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's a real random one.

[Dave Damaschek]

I didn't real.

[Mike]

There's a very random one coming. So number five on this list with 52 points in January of 2007, Jamal

[Jeremy]

Crawford with the Knicks to kill us.

[Tony]

Absolute bucket.

[Dan Le Batard]

He killer.

[Mike]

Then December 30th of 2016, 1. Isaiah Thomas.

[Jeremy]

Oh, remember that game?

[Mike]

Dropped 52 points as well.

[Tony]

Isaiah, he was nice.

[Mike]

God, what, what a run for him.

[Tony]

That one year that he had with the Celtics. He was great.

[Mike]

It was crazy. This is the one that stands out. December of 1994.

[Jeremy]

If you're a Heat fan, you know what he's about to say.

[Mike]

No, I didn't until I looked at this list.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're younger.

[Mike]

From about six months before I was born. Willie Burton dropped 53 points on the Heat.

[Jeremy]

Yep.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was.

[Chris]

That's our goat.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was traumatic because it was like

[Jeremy]

the year after we. We traded him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, he was a Heat player. And he stunned.

[Jeremy]

He was. He was like number six overall pick by the Heat.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, he came out with promise. He fans were super excited for him.

[Jeremy]

Good rookie year.

[Dan Le Batard]

And as. As would say he was a nothing.

[Dave Damaschek]

Oh, he's.

[Jeremy]

He was not good.

[Dan Le Batard]

And then they Trade him to Philadelphia for nothing. And he goes and plays the Miami Heat, I think in his first attempt. Lights them up.

[Dave Damaschek]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

53.

[Mike]

This would have been like, like Justice Winslow dropping 53 points.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, because Justice Winslow, like, because he

[Jeremy]

played here several years, Winslow was better than William with us.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, because. Yeah, Winslow was a. Yeah. When Winslow first entered the league, Winslow was a solid player, a starter for the Miami Heat.

[Chris]

Tyler Johnson, Willie Burton.

[Dan Le Batard]

No one knows who I'm saying.

[Dave Damaschek]

Yeah,

[Mike]

well, all right, so the two better scoring games, it was James Harden in 2019. He had 58 points, and then last night Luca had 60. So what do we think is the goat amongst all of these? Because, like, it's Willie Burton.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it does feel like it has

[Mike]

to be Willie Burton.

[Jeremy]

I mean, I think Willie Burton's the president of worst players ever to score 50 plus points.

[Mike]

He was 12, 19 from the field.

[Chris]

This goat conversation is presented by Frank's Red hot. Make every dish the greatest. Eat the goat.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, the Heat have played big games and yes, there are certainly, like hall of Famers on that list, but for Heat fans, it's always been random scrub Heat killers. That's always been the thing. Like, yeah, I'll remember the Marcus Thornton game more than I'll remember the James Harden game. That's why Willie Burton is the one.

[Tony]

The Paul Millsap game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Exactly. Yes.

[Dave Damaschek]

Oh, my God.

[Dan Le Batard]

Those are the ones that stick in your maw.

[Jeremy]

That was my first game ever on the Miami Heat radio broadcast. The Paul Millsap game.

[Commercial Announcer]

Really?

[Jeremy]

Yep. It was very early in that 2010, 2011.

[Dave Damaschek]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was really hungry and I left that game early and I watched the end of it from an ale house and it was devastating.

[Tony]

You got a mountain milk?

[Dan Le Batard]

I did. What else would you get, my boy?

[Jeremy]

Dave, why do you believe that new Miami Dolphins quarterback Malik Willis should request a trade?

[Dave Damaschek]

Well, I don't even know a request a trade. I. After what we just saw the Baltimore Ravens do to Max Crosby, just basically, I mean, they can say whatever they want. Obviously they recognized, oh, wait, we overpaid and we can just get Trey Hendrickson. So let's just undo what we've just done. Why isn't that available to the player too? Malik Willis maybe signed a week and a half ago under different circumstances, or in fact did sign under different circumstances. I don't think it was perfectly clear to him this is a total tear down that you're signing on for Malik. Ergo, you're probably not in line to have a big season. Personally, I think Malik Willis would be W. W. It would. Would be wise, in fact, to say, hey, if the Ravens can do it, I'm doing it, too. Undo this deal.

[Jeremy]

I'm.

[Dave Damaschek]

I'm now a free agent once again. And by the way, if he did do that, would the Dolphins have so little dignity that they would say, we're holding you to your contract and we're making you play, even if you don't want to be wearing our helmet anymore?

[Jeremy]

Yeah. I mean, first of all, it's ridiculous what you're saying, but let's play with it.

[Dave Damaschek]

If.

[Jeremy]

I mean, if Malik Willis were to do that, you can't start your relationship with the players saying that he doesn't want to be here. You'd have to get rid of him.

[Dave Damaschek]

But don't you think that. Do you. I mean, really, what it comes down to. Specific to Malik Willis, I'm making a larger point about trying to be the curt flood of the generation and trying to take a stand at the player level against the man and all of that. But specific to this, do you think Malik Willis understood what he was signing on for with the Dolphins a week and a half ago?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Dave Damaschek]

After the Jalen Waddle deal and otherwise?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Yes. Because Malik will has had offers. Malik Willis had options. The Dolphins had to sell Malik Willis on a vision. I don't think there was a bait and switch. Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think this caught him by surprise. I really don't. And while we all know what Malik Willis brings to the table is he can throw a deep ball, and the numbers suggest that Waddle is probably, like, the third best deep threat in the league. Like, the advanced numbers love Jalen Waddle way more than Dolphin fans love Jalen Waddle. I get all that, but I don't think this caught him by surprise at all.

[Tony]

You know what didn't catch him by surprise? $45 million guaranteed in 67 on the contract. I don't know what Arizona was going to offer, but when you're a guy who's basically a journeyman in the NFL and you see 45 guaranteed, you're like, you know what? I kind of really don't care what happens the first year. I trust these guys. I've been in the building with them. They have a plan. And, yeah, we may suck the first season, but after that, if they start putting, you know, pieces in place and getting other guys and drafting, well, this could be a team that in the next two years, maybe I can get another contract for another 50 or 60 or 70.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is that foolish of me, Dave, to expect that the Miami Dolphins probably floated their, their vision for the future to Malik Willis.

[Dave Damaschek]

I'm not sure. I, but I, you know, now it's, it feels like for Malik Willis sake, they need to use the first pick on a pass catcher. But for the team building overall, wouldn't you rather have somebody at the line of scrimmage if you're the Dolphins and looking at needs, really what it comes all, all around to is that I, I don't know why they just didn't stick with Tua. And you know, it's I, I hear what Tony's saying and in a vacuum it makes some sense. But in the year to year league and the what have you done for me lately league, it's now set up for Malik Willis to not have a great season. So the assumption like, oh yeah, he'll get him in 2027, there could be a lot of noise about Malik Willis sucks. He's even worse than Tua was and all that sort of rhetoric and that does count in the real world. People did people deny like nobody cares what the fans thinks. Yeah, they do. When people stop showing up and nobody cares about the Dolphins and what an embarrassment they are. And Dan Lebatard and his crew are going on and on about what a shame and how irrelevant and what a bum collection this dolphin theme is. It does matter. I hear you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I just don't think much changed about the Miami Dolphins prospects with the subtraction of Jalen Waddle. Like, I went from a good situation to a bad one because a guy that limps off the field in the games that he's available like multiple times a game is not, not here.

[Jeremy]

He couldn't have possibly signed here because he loves the idea of having the one, two punch with Jalen Waddle and Dave.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not like they didn't get anything for Waddle. They don't have to take a receiver with that first pick, get him like a Mao Noah type, and then with that late first round draft pick, get him a receiver. I think that the combination of a new young receiver that he can get excited about coupled with someone that can help protect him to help ensure that he can stay healthy throughout a season and play his best ball might be more attractive than the Jalen Waddle that I saw. While I'm conceding, I'm a little surprised at how many people that I respect that cover football. Love this move for the Broncos. I didn't see it during his time down here.

[Jeremy]

Name some names.

[Dave Damaschek]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mina Kimes

[Dave Damaschek]

I think it's a, I think it's a terrific move and I get the idea of overpay but like I just said, year to year league and what awaits you in 2027 is overstated. Everything changes every year and the mirage presented to Malik Willis if he signs off on like yeah, we're setting this up for the future Malik. We're going to be in great shape in about 18, 24 months. Just hang in there. In the meantime is, you know that cell might work except that he may play himself out of because of what's put around him. Ironically, he may play himself out of being a viable starting option and maybe the Dolphins a year from now are looking at and the conversation is boy, the Dolphins have a top 10 pick. They got to go get one of those high end QBs, right?

[Jeremy]

Dave I could tell you why the Dolphins decided not to keep Tua because he's bad.

[Dave Damaschek]

But if they want to be bad, then that's perfect, right? If the goal is to stink as much as possible, then stink. Then just keep Tua and draft a quarterback in 2027. What are we talking about? Why the. Why the. Why the nonsense with Malik Willis? Who is that for then?

[Jeremy]

Tony? One game outside of the Canes you're most looking forward to today in the tournament. One game, not the Canes who are playing tonight at 9:10pm what are you most looking forward to?

[Tony]

Give me. Let's see, I'm looking at all the games here.

[Jeremy]

Excuse me.

[Tony]

1010. Yeah, give me Texas Tech at Akron. Give me the zips. I like the zips. Making a little bit of a roll.

[Dave Damaschek]

Name one player in that game. Either team.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dave Damaschek]

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