Hour 1: Jonathan Zas-ho

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 1: Jonathan Zas-ho

Date: December 1, 2025

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Episode Overview

Broadcast from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, the Le Batard Show crew (Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Chris Cody, Roy, Jeremy Tache, and John Zaslow) deliver their signature chaotic, comedic perspective on sports, pop culture, and South Florida drama. This hour is dominated by a wild and hilarious debate about the term “hoe” in sports trash talk, the Lane Kiffin vs. Ole Miss podcaster confrontation, the University of Miami's football playoff snub, cold weather suffering, and the endless comedy of sporting tiebreakers, all while highlighting their grievances and obsessions with college football’s system.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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“Hoe” Discourse Dominates the Sports World

(03:15 - 08:03)

• The team launches into a lively discussion about the surprising 2025 renaissance of the term "hoe" as sports trash talk, centering on NFL player Jauan Jennings’ growing reputation for unsportsmanlike conduct.
• Chris Cody, John Zaslow, and others riff on the absurdity of football players and commentators returning to this loaded term—prompted by both player banter and a Lane Kiffin-related controversy in Mississippi sports media.
  • Chris Cody: “Bringing back ho in 2025 was not something that I thought I'd appreciate in sports.” (03:55)
  • Shelby Harris on Jennings: “He's a hoe. And I want that known. Like, I see why he got punched in the nuts…” (04:34)
  • John Zaslow: “If you would have told me back then... it's because he's a hoe, you're like, oh, now.” (04:21)
• The crew mock-seriously questions the etiquette, origin, and comedic timing of "hoe" in modern sports conversation, relating it to hiding behind teammates and sideline altercations.

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Lane Kiffin vs. Mississippi Podcaster: The Hoe Showdown

(06:33 - 08:18)

• The crew covers the buzzworthy spat between Lane Kiffin and Mississippi podcaster Ben Garrett, who invoked the phrase “can’t turn a hoe into a housewife” in criticism of Kiffin.
  • Mike Ryan: “The rare outside interaction where the guy's like, do you want to come inside?” (07:30)
  • Dan Le Batard (absurd escalation): “Outside is where I'll steal your kids. Inside your building, I'll beat you so hard, you won't have kids. He's a hoe.” (07:42)
• Much mirth is made over Kiffin’s “gangster” persona and the general escalation of “hoe” allegations between media, players, and coaches.

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Titans-Jags Punter Madness: "He Threatened to Kill Me"

(08:45 - 09:58)

• Chris Cody and Jeremy Tache break down the bizarre incident when a Jags punter reportedly threatened to kill a Titans player during a game. The Titans player is baffled yet fiercely nonchalant about the whole thing, leading to major amusement.
  • Titans RB (on-field): “Honestly, I was just trying to play hard and he came up to me, said he was going to kill me... never seen nothing like that.” (09:53)
  • Chris Cody: “No, it's funny because he's charmingly befuddled... that guy was getting crazy. He threatened to kill me.” (09:59)

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Aaron Rodgers Looks Like a Survivor—and Other NFL Misery

(10:29 - 12:06)

• The group riffs on the battered state of NFL quarterbacks and the microscopic margins of modern play (from long snappers to 300-pound tight ends).
  • Chris Cody: “Does Aaron Rodgers look like someone in a Survivor movie, like toward the end... being hunted by other humans...?” (10:29)
  • Discussion of offensive lines falling apart, and the "fat guy touchdown" no longer being novel.

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College Football Playoff, Miami’s Fate, and Broken Systems

(15:06 - 41:32)

• Mike Ryan and others bemoan the persistent injustice of playoff tiebreakers, especially regarding University of Miami’s exclusion.
  • Roy: “The BCS, the loss to Ohio State, it's just ridiculous... I'm devastated again.” (16:22)
  • Mike Ryan: “I feel like I have one of the best teams in the nation playing its very best football right now.” (38:48)
• They dissect Miami’s playoff chances, the insanity of the tiebreaker rules, and the wish for more logic and fairness—satirically suggesting the ACC commissioner should simply select Miami for the title game.
  • Jeremy Tache: “Does the ACC commissioner have the ability... to say, you know what? Duke's not in the championship game. Miami is.” (40:42)
  • Chris Cody: “Rewrite all the rules so that this show gets what it wants.” (46:19)
• Mock-serious calls for rule-breaking, appeals to ACC authority, and open ridicule of the “dumb” tiebreaker rules.
  • Mike Ryan: “It is proof positive that conferences are too big. And it leads me to my solution... eliminate one of the regular season games and you install a semifinal...” (44:33)

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Star Power and Freshmen Phenoms

(24:49 - 26:33)

• Discussion of Miami’s young star, Malachi Toney, and his seemingly unprecedented impact.
  • Chris Cody: “So the rules are going to make him a Heisman for three years because everyone sees that he's a special talent... unprecedented talent in the history of Miami.” (25:09)
  • Mike Ryan: “I think he's the most instinctual football player on offense we've had since Santana Moss... he's such a great football player.” (25:59)

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Broadcasting Booth Propaganda, Weather Suffering & Jonathan "Zas-ho"

(30:17 - 33:17)

• The booth mocks the Miami-Pitt broadcast (“no such thing as bad weather, just soft people”) and then ruthlessly teases John Zaslow for his inability to dress for cold weather on football road trips.
  • John Zaslow: “I was annoyed and embarrassed with myself... it was so cold this weekend in Norman that I was embarrassed...” (32:14)
  • Chris Cody: “He had a year and a week where this burned him last week. But he didn't want to learn.” (32:53)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chris Cody on “hoe”: “Bringing back ho in 2025 was not something that I thought I'd appreciate in sports.” (03:55)
• Shelby Harris (via Chris Cody): “He's a hoe. And I want that known.” (04:34)
• On Lane Kiffin and the podcaster: “You want to walk in here and call me a hoe. We'll see how it goes.” (07:28, paraphrasing Kiffin)
• Chris Cody, on punter death threat: “He's charmingly befuddled... that guy was getting crazy. He threatened to kill me.” (09:59)
• Mike Ryan, Miami Playoff Injustice: “I feel like I have one of the best teams in the nation playing its very best football right now... they are a playoff team.” (38:48)
• Roy, reliving Miami heartbreak: “The BCS, the loss to Ohio State, it's just ridiculous, man. I'm devastated again.” (16:22)
• Dan Le Batard, the absurd escalation: “Outside is where I'll steal your kids. Inside your building, I'll beat you so hard, you won't have kids. He's a hoe.” (07:42)
• Chris Cody, weather struggles: “He had a year and a week where this burned him last week. But he didn't want to learn. At no point during the week, he's like, you know, let me open up the app.” (32:53)
• Chris Cody (on rule changes): “Rewrite all the rules so that this show gets what it wants.” (46:19)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:15 – The “hoe” discourse begins, with the NFL and player reputations
• 04:34 – Shelby Harris (as quoted) lays into Jauan Jennings
• 06:33 – Lane Kiffin/podcaster “hoe” confrontation
• 08:45 – Jags punter death threat
• 10:29 – Aaron Rodgers as “Survivor” and NFL injury woes
• 15:06 – College football playoff injustices and Miami heartbreak
• 24:49 – Discussion of Miami’s Malachi Toney and young talent
• 30:17 – The Miami-Pitt weather, Zaslow’s cold weather mishaps
• 38:48 – Miami’s playoff argument and issues with the ACC
• 40:42 – Satirical ACC commissioner power grabs
• 41:32 – Extended mocking of tiebreaker chaos and rule changes

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Tone & Style

True to Le Batard style, the episode flows with sharp wit, irreverent banter, and satirical takes on real controversies. There’s real analysis wrapped up in the comedy, with the crew alternately mourning and mocking the fate of their beloved Miami Hurricanes, and never passing on a chance to lampoon player and coach antics—especially when “hoe” becomes the word of the week.

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This episode is a prime example of how the Le Batard Show turns the chaos of sports news and pop culture into an endlessly entertaining, oddly insightful debate—for both diehard South Florida fans and the sports-obsessed everywhere.

Transcript

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

There are a great many things that I want to get to in college football and pro football. The Lane Kiffin stuff is the juiciest. We have not even gotten to the portion of this that allows us in 2025 to wonder whether it's okay to ever call somebody a hoe. Like, we've got a ho down a hoe off between a couple of different stories in sports because Juwan Jennings is getting the reputation you do not want to have around the league where these paid professionals are like, this person is behaving on a football field in a way that's we're all here professional adults.

[John Zaslow]

And he's behaving like a hoe.

[Chris Cody]

Bringing back ho in 2025 was not something that I thought I'd appreciate in sports.

[John Zaslow]

It hits, right?

[Chris Cody]

Well, we've got two hoe stories. There are two of them. Because how do you arrive if you're Juwan Jennings on the reputation of last week somebody got suspended for hitting me in the junk with his cast. Suspended for a year with what was clearly criminal behavior. But now we know there's a fool out there running around talking crazy.

[John Zaslow]

If you would have told me back then, like, obviously it looked really bad that dude got punched in the junk. All right? But if you told me it's because he's a hoe, you're like, oh, now.

[Jeremy Tache]

It makes sense why the ball football was so far away from the punch.

[Chris Cody]

Right? Well, but let's, let's check in here with Shelby Harris, okay? And it's just delightful here, right? You think of what you're watching on Sunday, and it seems, yes, that's terribly violent. And then there's just a friendly man named Shelby who will tear your head off on weekends. And he doesn't like the way that man is playing football. He's a hoe. And I want that known. Like, I see why he got punched in the nuts, because that's some. Like, he says some things that you should not say to another man ever. But, like, I don't respect it because you say that. Then run behind your old line. That's some real soft shit, and I want that known. I see exactly why they punched the nuts. I'm surprised nobody punched him in the jaw yet.

[Jeremy Tache]

Now known.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, it is now known. Well, but this is the part of this story that I like. I've told you guys this before. There was a rumble somewhere on the sideline, and all the 49ers run behind Trent Williams. Everyone in that league knows, including Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett, you were lucky to get close to that quarterback yesterday because Trent Williams still rules that sport with a documentary out called Silverback, I believe, like that man, everyone is afraid of that man in that sport. And of course, Juwan Jennings, if he were to behave like a hoe, would hide behind Trent Williams. We all would. He's a hoe.

[John Zaslow]

Faux show.

[Chris Cody]

So what is the Lane Kiffin sound that we have?

[Mike Ryan]

Thank God that is a real documentary from 2021. Risky. That's one of those that you have to be sure of. Thank you, Dan.

[Chris Cody]

I was very scared as I did it.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm glad you did, though. Shows that you're still with it and sharp and not afraid of consequences whatsoever.

[Chris Cody]

I was. You know what?

[Mike Ryan]

My guy does not play it safe as I was. He will trot out Silverback when he's got 70% confidence on it, thinking that that's okay.

[Chris Cody]

I shouldn't have done that. Yes. Bad judgment by me. Thankfully, I got that right. I was surprised that everything there existed.

[Roy]

It. It.

[Chris Cody]

Look this man.

[Mike Ryan]

That's how close it was. Dan could have been over there.

[Chris Cody]

That man's story is amazing. I believe they had to cut open his skull. He is stronger than everyone else in the sport. I was impressed by just Miles Garrett not being able to do anything with that yesterday.

[John Zaslow]

Miles Garrett essentially backed up the hoe comments, too.

[Mike Ryan]

Yesterday.

[Chris Cody]

He did.

[John Zaslow]

Like, he was a lot classier. The way he said it.

[Mike Ryan]

It was a ho sign.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, he's a hoe.

[John Zaslow]

Oh, show.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, can we get to the Lane Tiffin sound, or is it backstory? Okay, do we have so what is the backstory here? This is a Mississippi podcaster that Lane is confronting. Yeah. Because the podcaster, and forgive me, I do not know this person's name. What is this person's story? It's somebody protecting something. Protecting the righteous identity of Mississippi. Not happy with how Lane Kiffin is behaving. So he has made some sort of comparison. This is what happens when marry you marry the.

[Mike Ryan]

You can't turn a hoe into a.

[John Zaslow]

Housewife because a hoe don't know how to act.

[Jeremy Tache]

Ben Garrett.

[Chris Cody]

So, Ben Garrett. Thank you. We'll assign. You can't turn a hoe into a housewife to you because a hoe don't know what act. Lane Kiffin. Thank you, Zaslo. Ever supportive. And here's a hoe. Here is. Here's Lane given saying, I will not. I'm not down for your hoe. So we want to walk in here and call me a hoe. We'll see how it goes.

[Jeremy Tache]

You want to walk in here and call me out.

[Mike Ryan]

The rare outside interaction where the guy's like, do you want to come inside?

[Chris Cody]

He's a hoe.

[Mike Ryan]

Why don't. Why don't we go inside?

[John Zaslow]

Usually, let's take this Usually, go inside.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, let's take this inside. See how that works.

[Dan LeBatard]

Outside is where I'll steal your kids.

[Chris Cody]

He's a ho. I can't believe that Lane Kiffin is the most gangster person in the sport.

[Jeremy Tache]

Let's go inside.

[Chris Cody]

Let's go.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's take this inside.

[Chris Cody]

To take this inside. He's a ho. Outside, I'll steal your kids. Outside the building. I'll steal your kids. Inside your killing building. I'll beat you so hard, you won't have kids. He's a hoe.

[John Zaslow]

So multiple hoe allegations this weekend.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. And I saw our guy from ole Miss, the podcaster, the journalist.

[Chris Cody]

He's a hoe.

[Mike Ryan]

I saw his.

[Chris Cody]

No, no, no, don't. He's a hoe. No, Ben. No. No one's calling Ben. Is someone calling Ben Garrett the hoe. He's a hoe.

[John Zaslow]

Look, everything's on the table right now.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, he's not backing off. Chris Cody. So I actually saw, like, a video clip from the content that he was putting out this week, and he doubled down on the host stuff, making his point and playing hoes in different area codes to support him.

[John Zaslow]

You know about them hoes in different area codes.

[Chris Cody]

I'm not comfortable with the part of your personality that has been unleashed in here. A little more comfortable than I'd like.

[Mike Ryan]

Perhaps you do the radio edit version where you say pros.

[Chris Cody]

Also, over the weekend, evidently the Jags punter threatened to kill somebody. That's. That's a thing that happened this weekend.

[Jeremy Tache]

Have a Titans running back here reacting.

[Chris Cody]

To the threat board. Titans the only team not playing in a close game in the one o' clock window. The Titans just getting dragged by a Jacksonville team. That may or may not be good. I don't know. Seems like the AFC is kind of flawed in every way, so any of them can, can come out of there. But the. Evidently Jacksonville's punter is crazy because he was talking about trying to kill a dude. I don't, I don't really know why the punter did that. You know, honestly, I was just trying to play hard and he came up to me, said he was going to kill me, you know, so I don't know what, what made him do that? I mean, just things kind of temper. Maybe tempers flared from that moment you thought, I mean, just how did the frustrations of the game kind of boil into, into that moment, you think? I don't think it was any frustration. I think it was just us playing hard and me and the other guy was just playing hard and I think he just wanted to. Something to say. Honestly, I have no idea. Might have been a couple plays before and I made a block on him.

[Mike Ryan]

Maybe I don't know what made him.

[Chris Cody]

Want to do that, but yeah, that was, that was surprising to me. I never seen nothing like that.

[Jeremy Tache]

I don't know why it's so funny to me.

[Chris Cody]

Well, he's pleasant. No, it's funny because he's charmingly befuddled. Like we're asking of like a kind human being who does a very violent thing for a living. We're talking to him about like, what happened out there with the punter. He's like, I don't know. That guy was getting crazy. He threatened to kill me.

[Jeremy Tache]

I don't know why he threatened to kill me.

[Roy]

Dan.

[John Zaslow]

He was just playing hard and then someone wanted to kill him.

[Jeremy Tache]

Now we have a picture of the punter.

[Mike Ryan]

It looks like a murderer, doesn't it?

[Chris Cody]

Does he? Yeah, I guess.

[Mike Ryan]

Fits the profile.

[Chris Cody]

White Roy, earlier in the show, I have been told, okay, I've been told there's a number of different things in football that I want to get to include. I want to ask the question, seriously, Bipole, does Aaron Rodgers look like someone in a Survivor movie, like toward the end of it where he's being hunted by other humans, like through the Jungle. Because I, I've got to think after 11 or 12 games he's looking up and being like, why am I doing any of this? What's the point of anything? And he's blaming his receivers, which gets to be the top headline yesterday somehow over that football day where everybody's broken, okay? These guys are going to suffer through the holidays. Herbert's out there playing with one hand. Aaron Rodgers can't. Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert can't sneak because they can't really take a snap under center. They've got a, they've got a shotgun where the margins for the support are so small that Jacksonville yesterday, did you see how they struggling? Because the long snap, the long snapper being hurt sort of affects your entire weekend. No one thinks about this. The long snapper, all of a sudden you're throwing flutter balls back there. They'll get blocked. So the long snapper getting hurt basically takes out three position players where your holder, your kicker and your long snapper. You can't trust them. And they've got, Jacksonville's got one of the best ones. The margins are this big. And Aaron Rodgers after a woeful offensive performance where he's got a 311 pound tight end. That Georgia locker room had some athletes in it, huh? Wurfs caught a pass yesterday and he's 6, 5, 3, 20. And everyone's celebrating and I'm like, Pittsburgh's got a tight end that's the same size. Like what are we celebrating? Worfs as a fat guy. Touchdown. 320 pounds isn't fat anymore in that sport.

[Mike Ryan]

Was back when the SEC was actually.

[Chris Cody]

The SEC that used to be the fridge's weight. Like the fridge was a novelty at like 330. And now we've got a 311 pound tight end running through, through the secondary. But where, where the football resides over the weekend, a lot of bad football, the best football was the holiday football professionally where the four dogs win and it's just total chaos in the NFL where San Francisco is eking into the playoffs at nine and four. You know, Dallas is better than most of the teams in that sport. They've actually fixed some things. Defensively, you know that Dallas is better than most of what you're seeing in the afc. But somebody in the NFC is going to get left out alliance that you know would, would ransack a Patriots team that doesn't have its tackles. Like you think the Patriots are going to survive not having their tackles the way that Josh Allen can? Because I don't. We'll see if Drake May is what we've been told he is. But this is pretty. Because he's mobile. But this one's pretty hard here you've got. He's out two tackles and this is the pass rush. This is one of those games if Wouldn't you have liked to have had the 14 parlay that over the holidays? Thursday and Friday. Just bet all the dogs. Just bet all the dogs. The packers against the Lions, Dallas.

[John Zaslow]

Ask if I wish I had a parlay with multiple teams in one.

[Jeremy Tache]

I think I hear what Dan's saying. NFL should go to the college system where we just decide who's good.

[Dan LeBatard]

Lose your tackles.

[Jeremy Tache]

That's it.

[Dan LeBatard]

No more Drake May. Doesn't matter that you're tending to just like James Madison.

[Jeremy Tache]

We agree, Dan.

[Chris Cody]

It'd be funnier if we did it that way.

[Jeremy Tache]

But would it or would it be chaos?

[Chris Cody]

Well, it's already chaos though.

[Mike Ryan]

You think a sport that actually has a tiebreaker that's head to head has it right? Two fools.

[Chris Cody]

We are laughing, are we not, at the fact that the four and eight Bengals are in the mix. Oh, I need to make an announcement. By the way. Carolina Panthers season's over.

[Jeremy Tache]

Whoa.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

After that win.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

You've seen everything that you need to.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, season's over for the Carolina.

[John Zaslow]

They could host a playoff game.

[Chris Cody]

Season's.

[Jeremy Tache]

That's crazy.

[Chris Cody]

You just said it was over that game yesterday. So Stafford hadn't thrown. He'd thrown two picks all season. He threw two in the first quarter. He made the bonehead plays he never makes. He fumbled as well three times. The Rams looked incompetent because Matthew Stafford was on a streak unlike any we've never seen from a quarterback before. 28 straight touchdowns without an interception. I don't think he'd thrown an interception since what, week six.

[Jeremy Tache]

And then Adam Schefter tweeted that and then he threw an interception.

[Chris Cody]

The next drive happened a couple of times. Happened to Hansen a couple of times on red zone. He said Brissette hasn't had an incompletion interception. He said, folks, the best kicker in the league. Miss field goal.

[Mike Ryan]

Boom.

[Chris Cody]

Both times happened to him.

[Jeremy Tache]

Nick Folk. That guy. He just on the sideline with his helmet. It just looks like he needs a cigarette.

[Chris Cody]

Well, but so does Brock Bowers. Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Brock Bowers greatest tight end you've ever seen or 50 year old plumber. He needs to go bald. He needs to Brock Bowers.

[Jeremy Tache]

Juju's been on that a While I.

[Chris Cody]

Mean, Brock, come on, you're dominant, athletic beast. You cannot look like a 50 year old plumber. You look older than Terry Bradshaw. Put it on the poll. Does Brock Bowers look older than Terry Bradshaw? Good tight end room at Georgia.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, that's why Washington wasn't playing as much.

[Chris Cody]

Decent tight end room at Washington. All right. With Washington in Georgia. Roy, there's the sound. Thank you for doing that. Thank you for bringing me back to that sound. That sound is Roy disgusted. This is the most disgusted I've heard Roy about sports in 20 years. That was Roy earlier.

[Mike Ryan]

That happened 25 years ago.

[Chris Cody]

It was the righteous rate. Yes. This part of Roy has been dead inside. It's.

[Mike Ryan]

You've heard him.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

In 20 years. For a story that happened. 25 years.

[Chris Cody]

That's right.

[Roy]

No, it's so infuriating.

[Jeremy Tache]

Is he saying nah, or it's just like.

[Chris Cody]

No, he's just mad that Miami. What's happening to Miami is the same thing. He sees history repeat itself.

[Roy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Chris Cody]

Right.

[Mike Ryan]

The story that he's talking about got everybody so mad that we're like, we're not doing computers anymore because we need to value head to head. And here we are, 25 years later.

[Chris Cody]

Roy, Roy, this has happened to you. I've. I. You. You care about hockey this way. But I think your two most heartbroken, most feeling sports places are. Are anything hockey related. And the University of Miami being betrayed and wronged in a way that is clear and awful and obvious to everyone.

[Roy]

Absolutely. The bcs, the. The loss of Ohio State, it's just. It's just ridiculous. Man. I'm devastated again.

[John Zaslow]

Finally hitting you, huh?

[Roy]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

No, I wanted to talk 25 years ago.

[Mike Ryan]

Roy's like, I need time to process this.

[Roy]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

And he took 25 years and he's finally ready to share his thoughts.

[Roy]

Man, my head was down. I was sulking the entire night after the. Yeah, I was. I was talking the entire night after that. Ohio State.

[John Zaslow]

I don't believe it.

[Mike Ryan]

Hard to envision.

[Chris Cody]

Hold on. So. But just.

[John Zaslow]

You were sulking.

[Chris Cody]

Just to be clear. Just to be clear. Lest it's. Anyone is under confusions right now. What's happening with betting hots? The way the schedule is played out, it's very possible that the University of Miami has played its last game this season. Correct.

[Jeremy Tache]

Like they'll get a ball. Look at the best of the best unimportant bowl.

[Mike Ryan]

Don't sleep on the tax Slayer bowl.

[John Zaslow]

Dan, I went to that Pop Tart bowl last year.

[Jeremy Tache]

You reject it, right? Mike, if you don't get in. No, I ain't going to your bowl. No, thanks.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't like the Pop Tart bowl because we're. We're a joke there. But if it's guys, if it's the Cheez It. Citrus Bowl.

[Roy]

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[Mike Ryan]

That's a horse of a different color.

[John Zaslow]

And the Pop Tart, he jumps into, like, the toaster, and then he comes out and they eat it.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, there's six of them. This year is a wacky chain phase.

[Chris Cody]

I am not prepared for the last two seasons of University of Miami football to have today in it. The finality of. Oh, so everyone's going to be in agreement then, that Miami has played its last game because the arguing is over and the propaganda and the Mario Cristobal interviews are largely over. And so the season is over.

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[Chris Cody]

John Zaslow. How you love that cat phrase. Bad news for opposing teams in the triple air stugats. These all smiles till LeBron's eye. Clutch again. Clutch again. Clutch again. This is the Dan Leber, our show with the stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mike, I have a legitimate question for you. Do you think and take me seriously?

[Chris Cody]

Head to head is always the number one criteria for anything.

[Dan LeBatard]

He speaks for me that you deserve more credit. If Miami makes the playoff, then maybe their backup cornerback.

[Chris Cody]

I, I heard him push those backup. I, I heard him push Chuckle and Lou Rick into a whole new dimension. He didn't answer my question, but I. We all heard that happen the same way. Did we not Head to Head? Did we all not hear Washuzen and Reddick had 20 minutes to fill, and they were going to fill it with, um, propaganda.

[Jeremy Tache]

I mean, so, Dan. I'll go with the take.

[Dan LeBatard]

The answer is yes.

[Jeremy Tache]

I'll go with the take that they just reacted to the game they saw. Miami looked a lot better this week than they did last week. I, Chuckle and Lou Riddick have some pride. Where's your spot? Oh, they want us to talk good about Miami.

[Chris Cody]

We're going to. They were doing five minutes of pro Miami talk that Miami would have liked to them. If Miami had scripted what those guys could say at the end of the game, that's what it would have sounded like.

[Jeremy Tache]

But it wouldn't have made sense a week ago because they were up 10 late against Chris.

[Chris Cody]

What I'm, what I'm saying to you is when Mike yells at Chuckle, saying, where was this last week? You guys weren't talking honestly on the air about Miami being wronged on a national broadcast. Correct me? You heard it, right? Says you heard it.

[John Zaslow]

No, No, I did not.

[Jeremy Tache]

I heard it. I was listening.

[Chris Cody]

Okay? Because if I had wanted to write that and say, can you with shoes and Riddick, please do this on behalf of Miami, that's how I would have written their conversation. So don't say they didn't change their tone. It totally changed.

[Jeremy Tache]

But I'm giving the team and how they performed on Saturday credit for that change.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's Mike.

[Jeremy Tache]

You can give it to Mike.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's Mike's credit that he's due.

[Jeremy Tache]

I think they're reacting to what they're.

[Mike Ryan]

To answer your question. We lost OJ Frederic and PFF's best college corner in the nation. So someone give me a group where they were healthy and we got that. Bryce Fitzgerald, a freshman, by the way.

[Chris Cody]

Head to head.

[Mike Ryan]

Head to head matters. Bryce Fitzgerald stepped up admirably. The backup corners. Jeremy, who's the backup quarterback?

[Dan LeBatard]

You deserve more credit than you.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it's Malachi Tony now.

[Dan LeBatard]

So you deserve more credit.

[Chris Cody]

Can I talk about him just for one more second? Okay. Because I'm used to. I'm not. I don't have a lot of experience with a freshman arriving and then me saying, well, hold on a second. So the rules are going to make him a Heisman for three years because everyone sees that he's a special talent. Malaki, not special talent. I am saying Zaz, and I don't think this is prisoner of the moment. I'm going to say unprecedented talent in the history of Miami, given Miami football, given the age and the range of. He'll throw passes, he'll run reverses, he'll make the one handed spectacular catch. We saw two of those in football yesterday. Okay. Bowers and Puka both made catches yesterday. Both of them. Bowers and Puka Nkua both made catches yesterday that are among the best you've ever seen in your life from an athlete.

[Jeremy Tache]

It's the elusiveness. For me, he just doesn't get tackled. Takes like three guys that. He's a small guy, breaks tackles. That's the part that stands out the most to me.

[Chris Cody]

So. So to the. To the eye test, this person is a legitimate star in a Heisman race that is crowded and he's getting his name out there earlier. But I don't think I'm overreacting when I say a school that produces a great many playmakers has never had one that has this kind of range and certainly not with this kind of youth.

[Mike Ryan]

I think he's the most instinctual football player on offense that we've had since Santana Moss. He doesn't do it with straight line speed, though. He's going to get faster the more time he spends in college. His dad had track speed. He's going to improve his quickness somehow. He is especially quick, but when he gets into the open field, he doesn't have Santana's speed, but he's got his vision. He takes angles and makes guys look foolish. He's such a great football player. And it's not just him with the ball in his hands, the block that he had to spring Carson back on a run, he's just Such a great football player.

[Chris Cody]

I don't know whether you guys, it still means anything to you with the national broadcast being as fractured as they are, but to me, it still means something. When Lou Riddick is the one saying Malachi Toney is one of the best, one of the very best. It's not just a broadcaster saying this is among the best pass rushers at his position. Like, he knows what he's watching there and it's going to be great in college football for the next three years if he does not get hurt. He plays. It's a special football player and I'd like him to continue watching him play games. The thing that I don't want to go any more days without noting, because where all of the controversy resides around gambling and what's real and who's bought and what players are in on it and what referees are in on it. And I'm not going to think about the rigging of games, how felonious that is, and how many people would be in trouble if. If the games themselves didn't always keep their integrity. One of the great evolutions in sports in my lifetime, inventions of any kind is the replay command center giving you a game day operations center where you can hear how the referees are talking about things.

[Simplisafe Announcer]

Love that.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, no.

[Chris Cody]

But the access is so unbelievable that I believe they've changed how it is that you can believe in sports. Because even if they get it wrong, you're like, oh, I see how they came back, had that decision. They've offered me full transparency on how they're discussing it. And so I'm good. I'm. I'm slightly less outraged than I would.

[Mike Ryan]

Have been because in plain sight now.

[Jeremy Tache]

I want to know what it sounded like before they knew they were being recorded, you know, because it's so professional now. Everyone good? Everyone have a good. Like before it was probably. They know, they're like, you know, like I imagine it was so chaotic and now they're like, hey, we got to keep this clean.

[Mike Ryan]

I was in the concourse and they were playing the pit broadcast during the sideline catch up clearly wasn't a catch. In fact, everyone on the instant replay agreed. We don't really see the catch here. So. Call upheld. Catch. The pit broadcasters were laughing at how bad that call was. First down pit, they.

[Chris Cody]

Well, they reversed. The way they talked about it at the beginning was totally different about how they talk about it at the end. Like they reverse course.

[Mike Ryan]

Did you see the call that they had was the result of the play is a touchdown. Miami Pulled the player into the end zone. They lined up and the pit broadcasters were like, oh, this is a weird place for Miami to go for two. And they everyone, the score was reflected a touchdown. They said, result of the field is. Result of the play is a touchdown. And then they lined up for another play, and then Miami just scored another, but it was just bonkers. That's the same referee, by the way, from the SMU game.

[Chris Cody]

Wait a minute. That was a P.S. that was that.

[Mike Ryan]

No, it's necessary because Miami has two losses because one of them was handed to them by the officials. There were multiple missed calls, including the vaunted Lightfoot roughing the passer that came on a fourth down. That essentially turned a win into a loss. Miami had a game stolen just like, oh, you stole a game with the referee's help against Auburn. Context, that should matter for whoever wants to keep up and fight this good fight. Again, I lay my sword down.

[Dan LeBatard]

Gilbert, tight end, has two catches for 37 yards. Do you deserve more credit for Miami making the playoff if they do, than Luka Gilbert?

[Mike Ryan]

Luca Gilbert may one of the best catches I've ever seen at Green Tree. That guy's gonna be a player.

[Dan LeBatard]

What about Luke Nickel?

[Mike Ryan]

Backup quarterback, scout team stuff. That's important.

[Chris Cody]

Can I ask how everybody here felt about the way that they started the broadcast of UM and Pitt with the quote from Mario Cristobal as he prowled up and down the sidelines, possibly not making the playoffs again? There is no such thing as bad weather. Just soft people.

[John Zaslow]

I like it.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, that's an asinine thing to say.

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Chris Cody]

I saw so much bad weather last weekend. And it's not because I'm soft, though I am now.

[John Zaslow]

If you can't handle the weather, you're.

[Chris Cody]

Going to say this. You couldn't handle the weather this weekend. Do we have photographic proof of Zaslow and how he doesn't know how to dress like an adult? It's not merely that Mike Ryan accuses him credibly of not being an insider, even though Zaslo wins that argument. Zazlo did not have. Chris, did you see any of this? Zaslo continues to not be able to dress like an adult.

[Jeremy Tache]

I mean, this actually looks better than last week. Well, someone gave you that jacket, Dan.

[John Zaslow]

Yeah, well, okay, so that jacket does not fit me. That's as far as it goes. I'm wearing a small right there. Me Ambers is actually bigger than me. We both needed those jackets. Luckily, you had them on hand. I was freezing.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[John Zaslow]

I was not Let me dress.

[Chris Cody]

All right.

[Jeremy Tache]

Your hands look so cold.

[Chris Cody]

I don't understand. Can any of you in the room please walk me through what seems to be real toddler behavior? Again, I will say Zaslow is not in his first year with this traveling outfit. He knows that college football cities and. And campuses and places off lakes get cold. He's got a year of experience.

[John Zaslow]

How am I supposed to know there's a lake?

[Chris Cody]

Zaslow Zaslo was. You went to Madison, Wisconsin in late November. And I could have told you at any time in my lifetime that's dangerously cold, but especially off a lake, you're going to get wind blowing that feels really unpleasant. It's going to feel colder than 40, even if it's 40. You dressed poorly last week. This week. And I was surprised this happened with Lucy. It makes me wonder if she's got an ice in her bones from Iowa that I don't understand. She said Zaslo would be fine in Norman, Oklahoma, this time of year. And I'm thinking to myself, as a South Floridian, no, that's been a hellscape my entire lifetime during winter, like I would absolutely not want with the clothes that I have to ever go to Norman, Oklahoma, for any reason when the wind starts blowing.

[John Zaslow]

I told you last week in Madison I was going to be fine because I control my own blood. Now, this week in Norman, I will admit, Dan, I was. I was annoyed and embarrassed with myself. I can admit when I'm embarrassed. Not everybody can admit that. I can admit when I'm embarrassed. And it was so cold this weekend in Norman that I was embarrassed with myself that, why can't I get on the same page with weather?

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, what.

[Mike Ryan]

What.

[John Zaslow]

What is my problem? That I can't pack warm enough?

[Jeremy Tache]

Question that I just.

[John Zaslow]

I'm not on the same page.

[Jeremy Tache]

At least you weren't shamed a week ago about it.

[Chris Cody]

Again, he had a year to learn this. It's a strange thing.

[Jeremy Tache]

I did not go to Burlington.

[Mike Ryan]

He had a year and a week where this burned him last week. But he didn't want to learn. He. At no point during the week, he's like, you know, let me open up the app.

[Jeremy Tache]

You want me to bring you a jacket?

[John Zaslow]

Amber literally told me the day before, there is a cold front coming into Norman Saturday afternoon. And what did I do about it, Dan? Nothing.

[Chris Cody]

It's breath. It's breathtaking in its stupidity. He's a hoe. What? That's unnecessary. Why did you.

[Mike Ryan]

Jonathan Zazho, if you could stop somebody.

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[Jeremy Tache]

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[Chris Cody]

Time. Don.

[John Zaslow]

Levitard. I've never stepped foot on that.

[Chris Cody]

Campus.

[John Zaslow]

I. If you told me right now your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just, just, just take a.

[Mike Ryan]

Picture.

[John Zaslow]

Stugats. I would die. I don't know where it.

[Chris Cody]

Is. This is the Dan Levatar show with the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats. Oh, are we using hoe this much because it's Christmas.

[Roy]

Season. Ho, ho.

[Chris Cody]

Ho. I see why he got punched in the middle. That's all that we're celebrating in the Hoenn. Holidays. It's always the first word in holidays. Can you please though give to the audience any semblance of understanding as like I, I don't think there are a lot of worse feelings than feeling cold. I live where I live because the feeling of cold to me is.

[Jeremy Tache]

Something that windy cold.

[Chris Cody]

Specifically. So, so look, look. But I may be one of, I must be one of these soft people. Mario Cristobal speaks for sure you are. But there.

[Mike Ryan]

Is. You're asking that question. I can confirm there is bad.

[Chris Cody]

Weather. I will not be told there's not bad weather. I don't care what a meat, what kind of meathead he is. Don't tell me there's not bad weather in Norman, Oklahoma. There's bad weather there all the.

[Mike Ryan]

Time. I don't think he's using the cold weather thing as a criteria to determine whether or not you are.

[John Zaslow]

Soft. All I had, all I had there in Norman, all I had brought with me, I had a zip up jacket and underneath it I was wearing a Miami Heat.

[Mike Ryan]

Shirt. That's what I had. I think he was looking at your full resume, body of.

[Chris Cody]

Work. That's fine. He can say that if he wants, there's still bad weather and if he has any kind of objection, we can take it inside because it's where I prefer because there's, you know, a log cabin or some warmth. Some heaters that I need. If Mario Cristobal has any sort of objection to what I'm saying that there is indeed bad weather. I disagree with him. And there are also soft people and I may be among them. But that's not an either. Or show some nuance caveman. Or we can take it inside. I'll take it inside if you want to take it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Inside. Jordan Lyle. Three carries for 22 yards this season. Mike Ryan did you deserve more credit for Miami success if they make the.

[Mike Ryan]

Playoff. He got hurt early. Didn't do much with his opportunities. You could argue he prevented Miami from seeing what they had him. Pringle okay. But his fall camp was too good. Iron sharpens.

[Chris Cody]

Iron. So do you think you've seen your last football game of the season? Of consequence you believe. With stakes on it. You believe that.

[Mike Ryan]

This. I would like to win a bowl game. I would like.

[Chris Cody]

To. You understand what I'm.

[Mike Ryan]

Saying. There's like all those like.

[Chris Cody]

Memes. Have you resigned yourself to. I'm not going to argue my way in. I'm going to lose. Miami's going to get shut out. Miami's a betting favorite to be shut out of these playoffs. You'd get 8 to 1 odds right now on Miami getting into the playoffs. No matter what happens from.

[Mike Ryan]

Here. What's happening with Miami is most obvious. This is obviously wrong. Head to head should matter. There is a team that is bunched up closely with Miami. They have the same record as Miami. Miami beat them also. Miami is a common opponent argument over anybody. They are also grouped with not jmu. You have to look at this matter of factly. Are you okay with this? And a lot of people are okay with it. But I'm really hoping logic and reason really ascend here over the next week of dialogue. I don't have to fight that much. I feel like I have one of the best teams in the nation playing its very best football right now at 4.0after that embarrassing defeat handed down by the officials in that SMU game. I like Miami's hand here. I think it's the most obvious thing in the world. They are. They're a playoff team. And I think other people need to get with the.

[John Zaslow]

Program. I think the Canes are going to jump to 11 tomorrow night. Which of course is not good enough. I think they're going to jump to 11. So is there anything that can happen between tomorrow night and Sunday when the final rankings come out that could help the canes get to.

[Mike Ryan]

10? If Miami does indeed go to 11, like you're saying. Then you look at number 10, you have Miami, then Alabama ahead of them, then Notre Dame. Does the committee guard against Alabama losing in the SEC title game again by moving them ahead of Notre Dame? Because if that's what. What happens, you have Notre Dame and Miami grouped.

[John Zaslow]

Right? Okay, so that's head to head once again. So that's what we want then is for Alabama to win this.

[Mike Ryan]

Championship. You want the optics of Miami right there with Notre Dame and the committee and you're a check telling you, we think Notre Dame, even though they have the same exact record and got fat on bad teams, by the way. You want to talk common opponents. Miami beat three of the four common opponents worse than Notre Dame. Did you have all those arguments working in your.

[Roy]

Way?

[Mike Ryan]

It. I gotta feel in my heart of hearts, it's. You can't do that if the team below beat the team directly ahead of them. You can't hold out that team. You.

[Jeremy Tache]

Can'T. Does the ACC commissioner, and I say this half jokingly, but half seriously this. Does the ACC commissioner have the ability just to say, you know what? Duke's not in the championship game. Miami.

[Simplisafe Announcer]

Is. I.

[Jeremy Tache]

Just. They deserve, like, I don't care about what tiebreakers we've said in the past. I'm the commissioner of this conference and Miami deserve. Like, I'm half kidding. But like, that would make. That would clear this all up. Then they would have an ACC championship game to play in. No, I'm.

[Mike Ryan]

Not. It's.

[Jeremy Tache]

Just. It just makes sense. Even Duke fans have to be like. Like we don't deserve to be.

[John Zaslow]

In. You feel good about these words coming out your.

[Jeremy Tache]

Mouth. I'm being, like I said, half serious, half.

[Chris Cody]

Joke. If you're half serious, that means half of you are.

[Jeremy Tache]

Serious. If. If.

[Chris Cody]

The. Except that if you say you're half serious, half of you are.

[Jeremy Tache]

Serious. If the.

[Chris Cody]

Acc. You're saying, never mind about playing the schedule, never mind, I'm the.

[Jeremy Tache]

Commissioner. Never mind these stupid tiebreakers that we thought made sense, but they clearly don't because Duke is in the.

[Chris Cody]

Game. This. I am with Mike. I'm with Mike Ryan and Chris Cody and making the following argument. Argument unemotionally and without bias. Who would argue with that? I believe the commissioner should indeed have the power to choose what we think is right. I think that the commissioner of the ACC should give this show the power of. Look, guy, we know Manny Diaz would tell you this is not. This is not how it should be. Mario's got the better players. Nice win. Duke Congratulations against Wake.

[Jeremy Tache]

Forest. If it came out this morning. ACC commissioner says it's Virginia versus Miami. We don't care about the tie.

[Mike Ryan]

Breakers. We said both Duke and.

[Chris Cody]

Virginia. All.

[Jeremy Tache]

Right. Virginia. Actually, you know what? Virginia. I even.

[Chris Cody]

Think. I think Duke would be.

[Mike Ryan]

Cool. You think Duke's.

[Jeremy Tache]

Like. I think Duke would be like deserve to be in this game. This is.

[John Zaslow]

Stupid. Do you wish you said different.

[Jeremy Tache]

Words? No. Like I said half kidding, half earned their.

[Chris Cody]

Way. If half of you is serious, then half of you is.

[Jeremy Tache]

Serious. They earn their.

[Mike Ryan]

Way.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yes. They haven't been anybody in the. In the acc. Neither is Miami. Hold on, let me think about.

[Chris Cody]

That. No, but Notre Dame is a signature win. Supposed to be a signature.

[Mike Ryan]

Win. The acc. That's.

[Jeremy Tache]

Right. Miami beat Virginia. Miami v Georgia.

[Mike Ryan]

Tech. Which.

[Jeremy Tache]

Was. They were a better.

[Mike Ryan]

Team. Miami did not.

[John Zaslow]

Play. Georgia did not.

[Mike Ryan]

Play. Miami beat the team that beat.

[Jeremy Tache]

Georgia. Like I said. Back to this half.

[Mike Ryan]

Kidding. Miami beat the team that beat Virginia. Even though that was a ACC game between two ACC teams. That did not count for the.

[Jeremy Tache]

Acc. Do the right thing. ACC.

[Mike Ryan]

Commissioner. I do think that there is actually like precedent for this. I think the Big Ten as done this in the past. But where there's a flaw in what you're saying and that's like Jim Phillips finding a spine. That's not. This is exactly what he deserves because he is.

[Chris Cody]

Spineless. Our show whimpering that the commissioner has no spine because he won't.

[Jeremy Tache]

Change. Nobody, nobody, nobody would agree that deserves a championship.

[Mike Ryan]

Game. I hear you in a vacuum. That sounds bad, but I've been calling Jim Phillips spineless for several.

[Chris Cody]

Years. Okay, that.

[Jeremy Tache]

Makes. Jeremy, you don't agree that Duke should be in the game of.

[Chris Cody]

Miami. You know what? That does make it okay. That makes sense. Mike's.

[Jeremy Tache]

Right. Based off of like a seventh.

[Dan LeBatard]

Layer. Tiebreaker rules that have been there.

[Mike Ryan]

Forever. I've called him a cuck numerous.

[Chris Cody]

Years. Is that I feel like reported that publicly. I don't think that's.

[Mike Ryan]

Something. I've never said that on the air and I.

[Jeremy Tache]

Won'T. What's his name? Mike. What's that guy's.

[Mike Ryan]

Name? Jim Phillips. Jim.

[Jeremy Tache]

Phillips. Look at me. Do the right thing. You know Duke doesn't deserve being that game. Even Manny Diaz would agree with.

[John Zaslow]

You. Can I tell you what's funny? If you go to the ACC standings on ESPN.com Duke is still sixth in the.

[Chris Cody]

ACE.

[Jeremy Tache]

Exactly. I don't know how they stupid half.

[Mike Ryan]

Serious. I don't know how they win a.

[John Zaslow]

Tiebreaker. How are they.

[Jeremy Tache]

Sixth? I don't know you feel good about those.

[Dan LeBatard]

Words. I looked this up. It's the combined in conference record of the teams that they beat in the.

[Jeremy Tache]

Conference. That's an acronym for.

[John Zaslow]

Dumb. Why don't they have them second then they're.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sixth. That's a.

[Roy]

Website. That's the.

[Jeremy Tache]

Website. So dumb. Maybe do the right games. Do the right.

[Chris Cody]

Thing. Are you more than.

[Jeremy Tache]

Half. I think everyone.

[Chris Cody]

Agrees. Are you more than half.

[Jeremy Tache]

Serious? I'm like.

[Mike Ryan]

55. It is. It is proof positive that conferences are too big. And it leads me to my solution for all of this, which is if we're going to go these huge conferences, you eliminate one of the regular season games and you install a semifinal and a final to ensure that you do actually have the best teams. And you mitigate what can happen in the conference right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now. Keep changing the.

[Mike Ryan]

Rules. No, no, no. This was just so we can.

[Jeremy Tache]

Get Miami there the.

[Mike Ryan]

Best. Jeremy, I hear.

[Jeremy Tache]

You. You don't agree that we're arguing.

[Dan LeBatard]

About the 12th best team in the.

[Mike Ryan]

Country? Please, please. I'm trying to make a point that I've made for years. I've called Jim Phillips finalist for years. And I've also said. I never said that publicly and I never will. And I've also said for years if we're going to expand to conferences this large, they need to hold off one block of the. Of the regular season. Make that a semifinal and you match up everyone else in the standings that it's reflective of where they are presently. And you sort that out on the field because Mario Cristobal told you.

[Chris Cody]

Earlier. Head to head. You can't be out here calling someone a cuck. You can't do.

[Mike Ryan]

That. I.

[Chris Cody]

Didn'T. You can't do.

[Mike Ryan]

That. Stop saying that. I did that. I never did. Head to head and I.

[Chris Cody]

Won'T. Head to head is always. You can't also Chris be out here with. I'm 50% serious. I'm half serious. You're a little more than 55% serious. Sorry.

[Jeremy Tache]

Check. I think he should do the right thing. This is not my.

[Chris Cody]

Decision. All the rules. Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm.

[Jeremy Tache]

No. Just do what makes sense. Nobody across the country. I know. Jeremy's doing a thing right.

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Now.

[Mike Ryan]

Nobody. Am not doing a thing. I'm doing the right.

[Jeremy Tache]

Thing. He doesn't think Duke deserves to be in that.

[Mike Ryan]

Game. I'm not with him. By the.

[Jeremy Tache]

Way. The two best ACC teams should be in the.

[Mike Ryan]

Acc. I'm not with him. Like you could see this coming like a freight train. The problem is a lack of.

[Chris Cody]

Foresight. I'M glad we settled this. I'm glad we're all in.

[Jeremy Tache]

Agreement. You're the only team that didn't beat one of the.

[Chris Cody]

Teams. Rewrite all the rules so that this show gets what it wants.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes. Yeah, I mean, that's.

[Jeremy Tache]

Not. It's not about me right now. This is about doing the right thing and the teams that deserve to be.

[Dan LeBatard]

There. Put JMU.

[Chris Cody]

In. I've never seen Roy this.

[John Zaslow]

Way. Settle.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cody]

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