Hour 1: Kevin Con Leche

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode: Hour 1: Kevin Con Leche

Release Date: March 12, 2025

Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosted by Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, the team dives into a blend of sports anecdotes, pop culture references, and humorous banter. Skipping over the commercial segments, the discussion kicks off around the mid-point of the transcript, focusing on celebrity antics, fandom dynamics, and parenting humor.

Kevin Bacon and Wedding Antics

The conversation begins with Jon Weiner recounting a humorous story about Kevin Bacon’s aversion to the iconic "Footloose" song at weddings. He shares his initial reaction and personal experiences with problematic wedding DJs:

Jon Weiner [22:47]: "Dan, I don't think I ever... I went to Modak Hill's wedding last summer in Hawaii, and the DJ was awful. I had to step in and suggest playing music that suits the crowd."

Dan Le Batard adds his own twist, highlighting the widespread recognition of the song and its dance associations:

Dan Le Batard [22:47]: "It's so sad that people just circle Kevin Bacon when they play 'Footloose' and make him dance like a trained monkey."

This segment humorously critiques how certain songs can dominate wedding playlists, often to the chagrin of guests and the featured celebrities.

Condescending Nicknames and Breakfast Food Puns

The hosts transition into a playful debate about condescending nicknames like "Champ," "Buddy," "Pal," and "Chief." Jon initiates the topic by listing his top five least favorite nicknames:

Jon Weiner [29:50]: "Number five, Buddy. Number four, Pal. Number three, Champ. Number two, Sport. And number one, Chief."

The discussion swiftly pivots to creatively renaming Kevin Bacon with breakfast-themed monikers, sparking a flurry of puns:

Amin Elhassan [30:27]: "Kevin Waffles would be a zany clown for sure, perfect for kids' shows."

Jeremy Tache [30:57]: "Kevin Sausage is good."

These lighthearted exchanges showcase the show's trademark humor, blending pop culture figures with everyday humor.

Stephen A. Smith and LeBron James' Confrontation

A more serious tone emerges as Amin Elhassan brings up the recent confrontation between Stephen A. Smith and LeBron James regarding LeBron’s son, Bronny:

Amin Elhassan [31:31]: "Stephen A. has escalated during a slow content week, confronting LeBron about his role as a father on television."

Jon Weiner elaborates on the emotional undercurrents of the incident, discussing LeBron's frustration and Stephen A.'s media handling:

Jon Weiner [34:10]: "I was disappointed not just in Stephen A., but in how he outsourced the conversation to Gil's Arena instead of addressing it on his own platform."

The hosts dissect the dynamics of media personalities stepping into personal disputes, highlighting the complexities of public confrontations between high-profile figures.

Media Behavior and Shannon Sharpe’s Antics

Shifting back to lighter topics, the team briefly touches upon Shannon Sharpe’s animated actions during a Marlins game, reflecting on the evolving nature of sports media personalities:

Amin Elhassan [36:48]: "Shannon Sharpe trying to fight someone on the sidelines is cartoonishly beyond where Howard Cosell was."

They critique the increasing theatricality in sports commentary, comparing it to past broadcasting styles and questioning its impact on the viewer experience.

Parenting Anecdotes and Communication with Kids

The show wraps up with relatable parenting stories, focusing on effective communication with children. Jessica shares her strategy for encouraging her daughter to ask for ice cream:

Jessica [37:20]: "Sometimes I get caught because my kid is actually trained to ask for ice cream without messing up the rules."

Jon Weiner empathizes, discussing the challenges of understanding children's non-verbal cues and the importance of direct communication.

Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Dan, Stugotz, and the team maintain a dynamic and engaging dialogue, blending humor with insightful commentary on current events in sports and pop culture. Notable moments include witty puns on celebrity names, thoughtful critiques of media behaviors, and heartfelt discussions on parenting. This episode exemplifies the show's ability to entertain while delving into meaningful conversations, making it a compelling listen for both regular followers and new audiences.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Weiner [22:47]: "I had to step in and suggest playing music that suits the crowd."
• Dan Le Batard [22:47]: "It's so sad that people just circle Kevin Bacon when they play 'Footloose' and make him dance like a trained monkey."
• Jon Weiner [29:50]: "Number five, Buddy. Number four, Pal. Number three, Champ. Number two, Sport. And number one, Chief."
• Amin Elhassan [30:27]: "Kevin Waffles would be a zany clown for sure, perfect for kids' shows."
• Jon Weiner [34:10]: "I was disappointed not just in Stephen A., but in how he outsourced the conversation to Gil's Arena instead of addressing it on his own platform."
• Amin Elhassan [36:48]: "Shannon Sharpe trying to fight someone on the sidelines is cartoonishly beyond where Howard Cosell was."
• Jessica [37:20]: "Sometimes I get caught because my kid is actually trained to ask for ice cream without messing up the rules."

Final Thoughts

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz successfully blends humor with insightful discussions, encapsulating the essence of what makes the show a favorite among sports and pop culture enthusiasts. Whether dissecting celebrity behaviors or sharing personal anecdotes, the hosts deliver content that is both entertaining and engaging.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Jon Weiner]

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[Jeremy Tache]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

Cuervo.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

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[Jon Weiner]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

Cuervo.

[Chris Cody]

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[Jessica]

This episode of the Dan Lebatard show with Stugats is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings Kings. The Crown is yours.

[Jeremy Tache]

I know what all you want to say but I think you'd attend my funeral if I died in LA and I wonder if there is a place where nobody would show up for me when I pass away I'm having dying dreams Car crash in Tennessee or Santa Monica My last breath in rally Need J. Cole to show up and Klay Thompson's daddy Michael Jordan for sure and Shaq and Charles Barkley oh, what if I die in a Cleveland sports bar Or a Boston hot tub Or Tampa I'll make sure I'm done Not in Maine or Mobile Because I belong dying in Arizona Everyone will be there for me Arizona I'm gonna make sure that I'm back from West Hollywood I'm gonna make sure that I die in Arizona Arizona.

[Amin Elhassan]

Jeremy is getting a lot of praise for that song. Amin is taking a lot of heat for saying that a lot of celebrities would attend his funeral depending on what city he died and where he was buried.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, I mean, I Have strict instructions for my family to bury me as close to where I die as possible. I don't want, like, people traveling a body across the country. Doesn't really matter where I'm buried, But hopefully it happens in Arizona because I think we'll get a good turnout.

[Jeremy Tache]

God, Friday was a good show. That was fun. We don't have to criticize that one. Like we had to do yesterday's show. But I really like guys, I'm not gonna lie to you. I walked in today with a much bigger head than I've ever had walking in here. And that's saying something, because I know that I can be conceited. I have never in my life received the sheer volume of praise from strangers on the Internet as I have over the last week for the Day Journalism died and the Arizona song, the Day Journalism.

[Amin Elhassan]

I have never heard the sentence on our show before. I know I can be conceited.

[Jessica]

From Jeremy in particular.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, but I've just never. I've just never heard. I mean, Mike embodies that.

[Jessica]

If Mike said it, I'd be like.

[Amin Elhassan]

But I know I can be conceited is not something I've ever heard from anyone on the show.

[Jon Weiner]

You have Mike having the self awareness to think that he.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, he knows. He's smug. Oh, my God. Yes, yes.

[Jeremy Tache]

But he never admitted the number of.

[Amin Elhassan]

Times that I allegedly, his boss, say something to him, and he responds with, you sound like my wife. Yes, yes. No woman.

[Jeremy Tache]

It's been incredible, though, guys. I mean, I feel like, honestly, I'm gonna accept this.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm a little.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah, I'm a little bit nervous. No, because I'll tell you, I'm now worried about the next time that I show up with a parody song. Because this sort of feels like, you know, when an artist works for years and years and years at their craft, and they. And they ultimately finally release the album, I might look the phrase that they were looking for. I could do the Billy Joel thing. I could just say, I've got enough songs in my heart that I've put out there and it's over and I can quit on top, But I want to persevere, and I want to know what it feels like to follow up the hit album with another hit. But now I'm not gonna lie to you guys. I'm nervous about it, and I feel like it has to be a really artistic endeavor. So it might be a minute before I come back with. With what I'm hoping will be my magnum.

[Jessica]

You're acting like this is a Debut album. It's like your 17th album. Are you finally right?

[Jeremy Tache]

That's what it takes, man. REM it took years and years and years and years for REM and then one night they become an overnight success.

[Amin Elhassan]

But.

[Jeremy Tache]

And they say takes 10 years to.

[Dan LeBatard]

Become an overnight success, just like R.E.M.

[Jeremy Tache]

That'S what I've long said.

[Chris Cody]

You don't deserve this mental anguish. You really should just stop. Like you. I think you accept the success and like, just.

[Jeremy Tache]

I feel the pressure of the people.

[Chris Cody]

You don't deserve it.

[Jeremy Tache]

The people need more. They've been asking for it. They've. They've really told me that this is something that's made better. And, you know, it's. It's. It's something that I'm proud of.

[Chris Cody]

But I think you need to worry about you, not them so much.

[Jeremy Tache]

You know, I'm not a selfish guy. I might be conceited, but I'm not selfish.

[Amin Elhassan]

This is. This is wild. Wild. Billy. Wednesday. I need you to take control of the situation here, Billy. Yes, I need some governance over what's happening here where Jeremy feels the need to give an acceptance speech. When he gets some applause around here, I need you to help him with culture.

[Jeremy Tache]

One applause for three and a half years. I think I can live in this one.

[Jon Weiner]

Tell Billy how it. Really, Billy. We need you to bring him back down to earth.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's what we need.

[Chris Cody]

Well, no, I'm telling you, I'm worried about his mental health.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's what you guys do to him.

[Jon Weiner]

Every day, to be fair. Lasso him down from the clouds and pull him back down here. Billy.

[Jeremy Tache]

And you want me also talking about joining the Marlins TV broadcast or what?

[Amin Elhassan]

Was that a reward?

[Jeremy Tache]

That's something. Yeah. For the songs.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. I'm just saying you've got to go to 40 Marlin's games. You got to watch them.

[Jeremy Tache]

They're going to pay me to do it. It's awesome tv. That's kind of cool.

[Amin Elhassan]

That part is good. Yes. Congratulations. We are happy for you. Good week. That is a real metal arc victory there that you can. That you can scam.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I'm just saying. I saw.

[Jon Weiner]

You. Jerk.

[Amin Elhassan]

Scab.

[Jeremy Tache]

Why are you doing this?

[Jon Weiner]

He's doing it because we gave him.

[Chris Cody]

The last justice for Jessica Bladelock.

[Jon Weiner]

Wow.

[Chris Cody]

Scab.

[Amin Elhassan]

You jerk. This right here is Scott Stapp playing this. This is. This looks just like the Creed singer when he was young. Does it? Does it not?

[Jon Weiner]

Zybra?

[Jeremy Tache]

Wow, we're really gonna play this, huh? I think there's probably copyright issues.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's me. I wanted to talk about a couple of things that made an appearance yesterday that delighted me. One of them was the return of Rich Rodriguez, holding us while being the West Virginia coach. It was just delightful to see him back there again. And then saying that his players can no longer dance on TikTok. He has forbidden it.

[Jon Weiner]

Dan, I read that story and I swear to God, I checked the date. I said, wait a second, did they have TikTok in 2007? And then I realized, oh, this is current. This is right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

You thought you didn't know he was the West Virginia coach. You thought this was some, like, old aggregated story.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, I didn't know. He came back.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yes, it's wonderful. And somebody else came back yesterday in a similar way, where Jim Boeheim. You gotta understand that this person, Jim Boeheim, when he won a championship with Carmelo Anthony, solidified himself as a legendary coach in the sport. But they couldn't rein him in. And this has been the case for a couple of years with Boeheim, like Bayheim, was on the loose with a lot, drunk with power the last couple of years at Syracuse, holding on to a legacy that almost refused to be tarnished. But listen to Jim Boeheim on a broadcast and the broadcasters trying to reel him in and can't. Observing.

[Jon Weiner]

Observing Ramadan.

[Chris Cody]

I love it.

[Jon Weiner]

And a brief look, like a brief.

[Amin Elhassan]

Prayer there for a moment.

[Jon Weiner]

I love the commitment this young man has made. Amazing. It is amazing. And, and to be able to do what he's done, not just tonight, but also, you go back to Saturday, A four overtime game doesn't have any fluid until the third overtime.

[Amin Elhassan]

Right.

[Jon Weiner]

You've really got to take your hat off to a young man that. That's. Commit that, that's. That committed.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

8 o'clock. It's 8 o'clock in Iceland. Our president says that we, we're going to own that country anyway, so we can, we can make that.

[Jon Weiner]

Except how did we get there? Let's talk about basketball. This has earned. So. So Mari Suzoko, the player they're talking about for Cal, is fasting for Ramadan. Right. And this is during conference tournament time for them, a pretty important time. And. But he's, he's observing. And so that means he breaks his fast in the middle of these games. And you heard the announcer talk about there was a triple overtime game and he didn't get to break it until late in that game. And this isn't the norm, Right. In terms of American sports, it's a norm among Muslim athletes. But it's not the norm of American sports. And I think when people, most people are presented with the, hey, this guy's however well you think he's playing, he's doing this. And he hadn't had anything to eat or drink all day, not even water. That sip of water right there, that's his first fluid of the day since before sunup. And Jim Boeheim, who is a legend, Dan, and a great coach and coached a lot of great people. But rather than like absorb that information, in that moment, he goes to like this weird ass joke where it's like, it's 8 o'clock somewhere. You know, basically it's 5 o'clock somewhere happy hour thing. And as if that wasn't enough, I'm gonna lump in some dumbass rhetoric at the wrong country. Yeah, it's, yeah, the wrong country is Iceland. Greenland. Yeah, it's Greenland, not Iceland. And then also, even if he got it right, it's some dumb ass rhetoric.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, not, not surprising, right, that a caveman from another time would have very little connection to Ramadan. But I want to, as someone who is fasting and as someone who's fascinated in me by athletes trying to do this with religious rigor, I don't think of you as a spiritual person. I think of you as generally somebody who is a bit of a cynic about, about God. And so where you partake in the disciplines of what are you, what are you doing? What do you, you don't think you.

[Jon Weiner]

Think of about God? You try to get me set to hell in the holiest, very strong take right there.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, you hate God, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

I, I, he called me Catholic to my core once. I have never forgotten that.

[Chris Cody]

So you love God too much and Amin hates God. Where's the middle? Who loves God just enough around these parts.

[Jessica]

Down the middle, Chris.

[Chris Cody]

Here I am, Lewis.

[Amin Elhassan]

Excellent.

[Dan LeBatard]

Godilocks over there.

[Amin Elhassan]

Louis Wild Billy Wednesday. Lewis is what he says just inside, on top of inside, on top of inside. I do want that music to introduce him on Wednesdays. Like I want Wednesdays. This is one of the most iconic sounds anywhere in the history of sound right here. Look at Billy, Delighted because he threw the show to Louis.

[Jon Weiner]

Oh, no.

[Chris Cody]

I'm worried we're gonna get flagged on YouTube for playing the show.

[Jon Weiner]

I'm about to say, like, how much of that can we play?

[Amin Elhassan]

Ramadan? Ye, you being someone who is strict and disciplined about this means that this means something to you. Deeply.

[Jon Weiner]

It does. But also, Dan, like I said, it's rare but it's not the first occurrence. It happens every year, obviously. And every year they're athletes and we talk about some of them, we don't talk about others. And so I don't think this is Jim Boeheim's or should not be Jim Boeheim's first encounter with this concept. Hakeem Olajuwon won NBA Player of the Month one year while fasting in Ramadan. His numbers got better while fasting during Ramadan. He was a better athlete. He says, I think I'm better when I'm fasting because I'm more focused. So this isn't like the first time we ever heard of anything. And again, Jim Boeheim is a guy in basketball. So for this to be the first time, I mean, heck, Kyrie, last year when he hit that left handed floater to win a game, remember when Dallas was good? Wow, that was, that was while he was fasting. And so these are not stories that should be arriving. No matter how old Jim Boeheim is for someone who's in basketball, it should not be arriving on his shore for the first time. And yet it's also not as commonplace enough. So, you know, you can make jokes, dumb jokes about it instead of saying, wait a second, this guy is playing like this without the aid of regular sustenance. I just, it staggered me that he just, there was no part of him, just as a basketball coach that was appreciative of the effort that was being played there.

[Amin Elhassan]

The part, the part of no water is the part that is hard to get my head around. Trying to play basketball in a weakened state where you're, I don't know, like, I don't know what the effects are on the body, but I imagine that they're cruel.

[Jeremy Tache]

It's just amazing. You would think Boeheim is just a guy who's an old school gamer, would just appreciate everything that that is and that he would be someone accenting this is so impressive because he's seen how many legendary players go through moments of trial and tribulation and tournaments and all of these moments and then, you know, not come up with performances like this. The fact that this guy was doing it while fasting is amazing. You'd think you appreciate it.

[Jessica]

Not to justify what he said, but apparently this was like he had done multiple games in this night. So this is an old man delirious.

[Jeremy Tache]

After Greg Cody at the end of.

[Dan LeBatard]

The show, he called the Notre Dame pick game earlier in the day and then he was on the call.

[Jessica]

Iceland, 8pm what time is it?

[Amin Elhassan]

How old. How old is Boeheim at this point? Because maybe we do grandfather him in on. Just let grandpa just talk. Let it unspool.

[Jessica]

What time is it in Iceland?

[Jon Weiner]

Dan, I'm going to tell you right now, if anyone else had made that argument, I would have been like, well, no, but the fact that was Chris. And then Greg's face popped into my head. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, good point. Never mind.

[Amin Elhassan]

How do we feel, though, about Rich Rodriguez telling his players, no more TikTok. Dancing doesn't represent things, stupid.

[Jon Weiner]

Jessica. Not. No more TikTok.

[Dan LeBatard]

No more dancing.

[Jon Weiner]

No more TikTok.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's like the town in Footloose. Like, no dancing. You guys can do like, lip sync videos, I guess, but you can't dance.

[Jon Weiner]

He's Jerry Orbach. You could do Get Ready with Me videos. You could do makeup.

[Jeremy Tache]

What's for lunch?

[Jessica]

You can do what's for lunch.

[Jon Weiner]

What's for lunch?

[Dan LeBatard]

Like dancing on TikTok. Like, every football team does these, like, basketball teams do them. They're so innocuous. It's not like this is like a massive distraction, modern day bonding. I kind of am like, giving this a little bit of side eye where I'm like, why dancing, though?

[Jon Weiner]

But the crazy thing is he's not even talking about it as it being a distraction because he made clear you're not banned off of social media. Have at it, guys. Scroll, scroll, doom, doom, scroll to the end of time. But he said, quote, I'm just banning them from dancing. Look, we try to have a hard edge, whatever. And you're out there in your tights dancing on TikTok. Oh, it ain't quite the image of.

[Jeremy Tache]

Our program that I want, but ringing.

[Jon Weiner]

Hold on. He goes on to say, this is my favorite. This is my favorite part. Like I said, 30 years or not, they want to be sitting in their pajamas in the basement eating Cheetos and watching TikTok or whatever the hell. They can go at it. Smoking cannabis, whatever. Knock yourself out. But hopefully their focus can be on winning football games. How about let's win the football game and not win the TikTok. The TikTok.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's major side eye.

[Chris Cody]

You don't just win. The Conference USA is a Jacksonville State Gamecocks by dancing on. On TikTok. Which is exactly what he did. Defending champion C. USA 2024.

[Jon Weiner]

Jessica, I don't think that's major side eye. I think that major has been promoted to at least general. I can.

[Dan LeBatard]

I can give him eye contact and Be like, what do you mean by tights?

[Chris Cody]

Did he say the Mariju?

[Amin Elhassan]

Smoking cannabis.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, cannabis.

[Amin Elhassan]

Smoking cannabis.

[Chris Cody]

Not doobies, though.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, this is. There is a formality to saying smoking cannabis. And I don't know why Jeremy said bells are a ringing.

[Jeremy Tache]

Oh, because it's being homophobic. I was just ringing the this is homophobic bell.

[Amin Elhassan]

Okay. Bells are a ringing is the way.

[Jeremy Tache]

You chose Bells are a ringing, which was also pretty gay.

[Amin Elhassan]

Okay. Bells are a ringing. The thing that stun. This is Jessica making a Footloose reference. Because I did not believe that a movie with Kevin Bacon, Jerry Orbach, too. Letting off steam by going to dance in a warehouse. A time I long for. Do you long for. Put it on the poll at Lebatar show. Do you long for the day when people blew off steam by dancing at a warehouse? I did not know that Footloose resonated today in any way.

[Jon Weiner]

Dan, were you a Footloose or a Dirty Dancing person? Because in the 80s, guys, I don't know if you know the 80s, you had to pick one. You could not have both.

[Amin Elhassan]

I feel like. Wasn't Dirty Dancing a little later than Footloose? I felt like Footloose was the groundbreaker on we're gonna dance like white people all over the place. And then all of a sudden. Yeah. Footloose was a different time.

[Jeremy Tache]

Three years apart.

[Jessica]

87.

[Jeremy Tache]

Dirty Dancing and Footloose was 1985.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think of Footloose as an ancient movie and an ancient movie that there's no way, like, Dirty Dancing might hold up. There's no way Footloose holds up.

[Dan LeBatard]

I feel like I can't win if I make a reference that's too current. It goes over everyone's head. If I make a reference from the 80s, it's like, how do talk about Columbo? I'm an old person now.

[Amin Elhassan]

This is you winning.

[Dan LeBatard]

Doesn't matter what decade my reference is from. It's wrong.

[Amin Elhassan]

Speaking my language.

[Chris Cody]

Footloose, a remake of footloose, also in 2011.

[Jon Weiner]

Feet loose.

[Chris Cody]

No, that's the sequel.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Jon Weiner]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Snoop Dogg]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Did you hear that?

[Amin Elhassan]

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[Jon Weiner]

Don LeBatard I don't think I ever.

[Amin Elhassan]

Got that many roses in my whole life. Stugats.

[Jon Weiner]

Certainly not from your lovely grandfather. God.

[Amin Elhassan]

May a soul rest in peace.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

I saw a story that Kevin Bacon, apparently, I don't know if this was like butt cracked or whatever. I saw this at like 2 in the morning the other night. Ball, sack or butt crack. Kevin Bacon like doesn't want them to play this Footloose song at weddings that he goes to. So he asked the DJ not to play it. I hope it's true because I'm doing a Dan right now where I'm like, I saw a thing and I did zero verification. But I that makes me so sad that they're just like, like they people just circle him when they play the song from Footloose and they're like, do a dance.

[Jon Weiner]

So Jessica, I'm delighted because my first reaction was like, he's going to weddings like that he was invited to and it's not his wedding and he's telling the DJ what to play, what not to play. What a jerk. And then I remembered I went to Modak Hill's wedding last summer in Hawaii and the DJ was awful. And at one point I said, look around. Everyone here is over the age of 35. Just play 90s R&B in early 2000s and you're going to win every single thing. And he looked at me and said, you got it. And by the time I walked back to the dance floor, he played not like us. I was like, you. What are you doing, man? This is a family event. What are you doing? I don't want to hear about pedophiles.

[Jessica]

At a wedding just crushing Mo's dj.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, he deserved to be crushed.

[Jessica]

Have you told Mo this?

[Jon Weiner]

I Podcasted about it. Okay.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, wait. I found. I found the story in Entertainment Weekly. Apparently, Kevin Bacon revealed at south by Southwest. Do you guys remember we had south by Southwest? It's like the four year, three year anniversary.

[Jon Weiner]

The four seasons anniversary.

[Dan LeBatard]

They always start out about being about the bride, and then there's alcohol involved, Bacon said. And by about 10:30, the song comes on and suddenly the wedding becomes about me getting out and dancing. People literally form a circle around me and clap their hands like I'm a trained monkey.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's brutal.

[Jon Weiner]

What a rough life he had. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Kevin Bacon. People recognize you from that one thing. Oh, maybe we should remember him for Hollow Man.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

I feel like I associate six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon and then, then footloose.

[Jessica]

This would be like me being like, hey, don't do word combos to me.

[Amin Elhassan]

Wait a minute. You were really disrespectful to Kevin Bacon there while just dismissing him by slapping him across the face with a hollow man.

[Jon Weiner]

I mean, he made that movie. I didn't make it. I saw it, though.

[Amin Elhassan]

Kevin Bacon has had a distinguished career. You're dismissing a Kevin Bacon who would. Wait a minute. What are you saying that for, Kevin? You don't believe Kevin Bacon would be an all Star if he were in the NBA?

[Jon Weiner]

No.

[Chris Cody]

As a basketball player? Player. No.

[Jon Weiner]

The air up there. Ever seen that one? Dribbles looking at the ball and bouncing up and down.

[Amin Elhassan]

You don't believe that Kevin Bacon's career would be All Star Game worthy?

[Jessica]

I think he's like you, Donnis Haslam. He'll get, like, his jersey retired by one team, but not a Hall of Fame.

[Jon Weiner]

Not even. What team would retire his jersey?

[Amin Elhassan]

One movie.

[Jessica]

That movie would.

[Jon Weiner]

He's the Jamal Maglor of movies.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, kind of disagree.

[Jeremy Tache]

Wow.

[Chris Cody]

On IMDb it says known for, and it's Footloose, Hollowman, the Woodsman, Mystic River Hollow.

[Jon Weiner]

That was the second thing on his call sheet, man. Yes.

[Amin Elhassan]

Jamal McGlore, one all star game.

[Jon Weiner]

Yes.

[Amin Elhassan]

You give Kevin Bacon one All Star Game that everyone questioned because he scored 12 points a game.

[Jon Weiner]

You guys back me up on this.

[Chris Cody]

Who do you have him being?

[Jon Weiner]

He's obviously. He's got, you know what? You think that he's Demolition Man. He's not.

[Jessica]

Let's get a couple players to compare and put it on the poll. Kevin Bacon.

[Amin Elhassan]

Bacon. Kevin Bacon has had a career that has resonated for four decades.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, now that I look at it like he's in all of These massive movies. But he's not the lead.

[Jon Weiner]

Like, he's. He's in like Jamal McGlore, but he's.

[Amin Elhassan]

In A Few Good Men.

[Jessica]

Chris Bosh.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, but he's not Tom Cruise or Jack Nicholas.

[Jon Weiner]

Chris Bosh had his own team, his own franchise where he was an all.

[Jessica]

Star, but then wanted to go be a smaller piece.

[Chris Cody]

He's like Clint Howard.

[Jon Weiner]

Clint Howard's a good name. Clint Howard's a real good name. A lot of stuff.

[Chris Cody]

He's had a great career.

[Jon Weiner]

Great career. Working actor, gets in a lot of movies.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's in JFK.

[Amin Elhassan]

Sure.

[Dan LeBatard]

Apollo 13.

[Jon Weiner]

Sure. He was. He played on a lot of great teams. Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

So he's Kenny Smith.

[Jon Weiner]

No, Kenny Smith played for one great team.

[Jeremy Tache]

Shane Battier.

[Jon Weiner]

No, Shane. No.

[Jeremy Tache]

Shane was great in college.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, Shane's too good. I got to think about something. It's got to be someone like Jimmy Shane.

[Chris Cody]

James Posey.

[Jeremy Tache]

Shane never made an All Star Game.

[Jon Weiner]

James Jones. James. James Jones. That's who he is. He's the James Long career championships with some great teams.

[Amin Elhassan]

Kevin Bacon has to be considered somebody as a name in the movies and television that you associate with being in good things.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, name recognition. He's got a good name. He's like. It's like James Jones is a good one. Because it's also like James Jones went to multiple All Star weekends in the three point contest, but not All Star Games.

[Amin Elhassan]

Billy brings up a good point, though. I don't know if Kevin Bacon is famous if his name is Kevin Jones.

[Chris Cody]

But by the way, or Kevin Sausage.

[Jon Weiner]

A great James Jones tidbit, right? So James Jones, obviously he's the GM of the Suns. And I have friends who work for the Suns. When he first started, or. Well, not when he first started, but like earlier in his career. And they were like, oh, yeah, we call him Chin. And I said, you call him Champ? I said, yeah. He said, that's what his nickname is. You guys know why he's nicknamed Champ, right? And everyone who worked for the Suns thought it's because won championship in Miami, won championship in Cleveland. And I said, no, his nickname is Champ. Because when he was in Miami, he won the three point Shootout at All Star Weekend. And everyone in Miami started calling him Champ, but he basically went to Phoenix and just said, yeah, championship. And then to clarify, why would you. What the Champ.

[Amin Elhassan]

But why would you. If your nickname was Champ? You got to go with the better Champ there.

[Chris Cody]

Champs, like one of the most condescending nicknames, right? It's like Buddy, like You call someone Buddy. It's like, not great if you call someone Champ. You don't want to be called Champ.

[Jon Weiner]

I'm going to do a top five condescending nicknames.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, but unless you've actually won the heavyweight title and they're calling you Muhammad Ali, they're calling you Champ after you've played. Right. Or after you. After your career is over.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris has a. Has a good question that I think we need to explore a little further.

[Jessica]

I'm wondering what other breakfast food dude he could have as a name that would also have a good career as an actor.

[Jeremy Tache]

So, like, instead of Kevin Bacon, he's Kevin Eggs.

[Jessica]

I don't think we'll beat Kevin Bacon. I'm asking Kevin Sausage the question.

[Chris Cody]

Kevin Omelette would be good.

[Amin Elhassan]

Kevin Waffles.

[Jeremy Tache]

Kevin Omelet. Really good. Kevin. Kevin Waffles has to be a comedian.

[Chris Cody]

Though, or he does like kids shows.

[Jessica]

It's a singular waffle.

[Jon Weiner]

All right, let's give a haha whole welcome to Kevin Waffles.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's a zany clown. Yeah, for sure. Kids Clown.

[Dan LeBatard]

Kevin Dutch Baby.

[Jessica]

Kevin Corned Beef and Hash. We're workshopping.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, Keep working. Keep working on that. We can. We could circle back around at any point, by the way. Selling like hotcakes. You guys want to give me some hotcakes information?

[Jeremy Tache]

Flaunt's an action hero.

[Jon Weiner]

That's a hall of Famer.

[Jessica]

Kevin Grit.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's Grits, right?

[Jessica]

Yeah, but I'm just this one.

[Amin Elhassan]

Just a single.

[Jessica]

To me, the name is more powerful.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. The sequel is Kevin Grit.

[Jon Weiner]

Dan. I've got top five condescending nicknames.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, Number five, Buddy.

[Jon Weiner]

Number four, Pal.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is it just Terrence and Phillip?

[Jon Weiner]

Number three, Champ. Number two, Sport. And number one, Chief.

[Jessica]

I was thinking Buddy had to be number one, but that was a good list.

[Jon Weiner]

Chief. Chief, man. Chief.

[Jeremy Tache]

All right.

[Jon Weiner]

Chief. Yep. You say Chief, it's automatic things.

[Jeremy Tache]

Relax, Buddy.

[Jessica]

I think Buddy might. I like Buddy and Chief.

[Amin Elhassan]

Chief is excellent. And Chief is excellent for a number of reasons, including anyone who's using it. Jackass.

[Jessica]

Did you say Champ?

[Jon Weiner]

Champ?

[Jessica]

That's like what a stepdad calls a kid. Like, there's champs. Never used.

[Jon Weiner]

Never use condescendingly. All the time.

[Jessica]

To me it's like, hey, good job, Champfather. Like, genuinely talking to a young kid.

[Jon Weiner]

I'll take it from here.

[Jeremy Tache]

Champagne, Kevin Parfait.

[Chris Cody]

Kevin Danish.

[Amin Elhassan]

Kevin Yogurt would. Kevin.

[Dan LeBatard]

Kevin Croissant.

[Chris Cody]

I wouldn't like that.

[Jon Weiner]

No.

[Chris Cody]

Kevin Oatmeal.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, we're just naming Kevin Chicharron.

[Chris Cody]

Kevin Pop Tarts.

[Jeremy Tache]

Kevin Hasbro.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. Kevin Kale smoothie. Yeah. Just Kevin Lucky Charms.

[Jeremy Tache]

Kevin Kale.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, Just go ahead.

[Dan LeBatard]

Kevin Ham.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yes, go ahead.

[Dan LeBatard]

What if he's just a different meat?

[Jon Weiner]

Oh, that's good.

[Jeremy Tache]

Related to Jon Ham.

[Amin Elhassan]

No. Kevin Sausage is good.

[Chris Cody]

Kevin Sticky Bun.

[Amin Elhassan]

Billy's initial. Kevin Sausage.

[Jon Weiner]

Kevin Guancialo.

[Jessica]

Kevin Syrup.

[Amin Elhassan]

You guys are. I think you're right. You've. You have revealed a bias to me that I am elevating the career of Kevin Bacon because I just like bacon.

[Chris Cody]

Kevin bottomless mimosas.

[Dan LeBatard]

And the cheekbones.

[Jeremy Tache]

He's got a great cheekbone.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Natural or what do we think?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, really? I think natural.

[Jon Weiner]

Ozempic.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, I wanted to get your thoughts here as the host of Oddball and somebody who hasn't. I have not heard your thoughts on Stephen A. And LeBron's confrontation. Stephen A. Has gone on Gil's arena podcast, and he says now, because this is the tone that is a bit different than the apologetic one, and all of its content and all of it is good for everybody, I would say, except for Bronnie. Except for Bronnie. This is good for. I think LeBron buys himself something with father in this situation and defending his son. But now Stephen A. Has escalated during a slow, content week. He's saying, I thought it was weak what LeBron did at the Lakers game, confronting him. I thought it was some bullshit, but in the moment, I knew that I was listening to a father, end quote. He also says that he remembers looking during a timeout in the first corner, he saw Bronnie looking at him, and he saw a sad look on his face, and he's imagining that LeBron saw that and that that shit hit him, end quote. So now he's interpreting Bronny's face.

[Jon Weiner]

So, Dan, you missed Friday show. We were live when Stephen A. Smith tweeted the original. Hey, I didn't want to talk about this, but since it went viral, I have no choice but to address it on first take. We even sent Tony out into the hall out here to be our correspondent. Come back with the quotes. I reread the quotes in Stephen A. Smith's voice, and we were all staggered based on that setup. We thought, oh, he's coming with the fire. He's coming with the flamethrower. He was so weepy and apologetic. It's the Stephen A. Smith voice when he goes real quiet and real sad. And so I thought to myself, I said, wow, this must have hit him harder, I guess. And Then he goes on Gil's arena, not his show, because he did First Take, and then later on he did the Stephen A. Smith show. He didn't do any of this over there. On the shows that he owns, he goes on Gil's show and now he's talking all this wild cast stuff. Like, I just. I'm disappointed not just in you this week, but I'm disappointed in him because that's what I wanted on his show, as opposed to going and outsourcing it to a place where, I guess chaos rules a little bit more freely.

[Amin Elhassan]

That show, Gil's arena, has become popular and they've been waiting for Stephen A. To make this appearance. You guys are. You've told me before that you get a little tired of me talking about this, but I am fascinated by our business. And he's climbed to the top of it, evolving better than most, at least in part because he can keep pushing the envelope into places where he is now in all of the power settings. And he can be the news while he's in the middle of it. And as you said, can't go to a movie theater because his kind of fame. They should call it ASPN right now. They should just, as part of the new contract negotiations, just rename it aspn.

[Jon Weiner]

But pronounce it aspn.

[Amin Elhassan]

Aspn, Stephen.

[Jessica]

Aspn.

[Amin Elhassan]

Just aspn. Because he has gotten more and more power and now can make the news and create content for a whole bunch of people during a week by having a confrontation that he's rewarded from. When LeBron gets so agitated with don't tell me how to be a father on television. Cuz people are doing. People are doing something reductive here with this, where they're just saying, what do you mean? We can't criticize Bronnie. It ain't that. It's absolutely. Don't tell me how to be a father on television, dude.

[Jon Weiner]

It took me the weekend to figure that out, that LeBron wasn't upset that he was criticizing Bronny. LeBron was upset that he was criticizing LeBron as a father, which is like, oh, okay, now I see that. Now I see that. But the whole. I looked over at Bronny and saw how sad he was. Come on, man. Come on. That's. That's. You know what? It's hilarious. It's hilarious because he's sitting baseline catacorner from the bench. And the idea that, like Stephen A. Smith, he's with Ari Emanuel over here, and he's over here with Larry David. And like, okay, we're at Lakers, Knicks. And he looks over, and he just sees Brian doing this.

[Jeremy Tache]

Like, oh, Kevin, Blueberries.

[Jon Weiner]

Blueberries. And then. And then LeBron, who's, like, warming up and stretching. And then he looks over, he says, what's wrong with Bronny? Why is Bronnie doing that? And he looks at Bronnie. That's another one of those deep sighs. That's what kids do. By the way, Billy, your kid's gonna get to this age soon. Chris, yours might be at this age where they don't. They don't.

[Amin Elhassan]

They don't.

[Jon Weiner]

They think, like, oh, I won't actually ask. Hey, man, can we go out for ice cream? I'll just go. So dad will say, what's wrong? I just wish we could have something like ice cream. I'm like, well, I wish someone would just ask it straight up instead of deep sighing. So Bronny's deep sighing. LeBron's like, all right, I'm not gonna ask. But then he sees which way Bronny's looking. That's Ste. That's Stephen. Is that Larry David next to him? That's Stephen. I'm gonna go sit with him right now. And then he walks up to him and Steven Azemont. That's how it all went.

[Amin Elhassan]

Do you guys find funny that Shannon Sharpe is trying to fight the Grizz like that? The media is climbing into this space in a way that is cartoonishly beyond wherever Howard Cosell was as the lead broadcaster and face for Media and Media Company. Do you guys find that interesting or not so much? Just bored by it.

[Jeremy Tache]

Personally, I kind of hate it.

[Chris Cody]

You gotta fight someone, Jeremy.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Tache]

A fistfight on the sidelines of the Marlins game.

[Chris Cody]

Jessica would have.

[Jon Weiner]

That's right.

[Dan LeBatard]

She would have.

[Jeremy Tache]

You guys don't even realize the Molotov cocktail that Billy is throwing my way with that one.

[Jon Weiner]

He is.

[Jeremy Tache]

Is an anarchist.

[Chris Cody]

Kevin Koliche.

[Jeremy Tache]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Jon Weiner]

Now, that's. That's a star.

[Jessica]

I do the opposite of what you were saying kids do.

[Jeremy Tache]

Like.

[Jessica]

I'm like, I. If I want ice cream, I go, graceland, go tell Mommy we should get ice cream.

[Amin Elhassan]

Does it work?

[Jeremy Tache]

It's like, multiple steps ahead.

[Jessica]

Sometimes I get caught. We were walking out of a restaurant the other day, and there was a cold stones right there. So I'm like, tapping my daughter. I'm like. And my. My wife looks back and sees me pointing at the cold stones. Like, tell Mommy we should go over. And I'm just like, oh, I was looking?

[Mike Ryan]

I was stretching my arm.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can't you just go?

[Jessica]

It was a school night. It was past 8:30. My wife has this thing past.

[Chris Cody]

Did you still have homework to do, Chris?

[Jessica]

No, my daughter needs to go to sleep, you know, by night.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's your wife's thing about 8:30?

[Jessica]

8:30. She wants like us to be like. We can't go get ice cream at 8:30 on a school night. Like 8:30. We need to, need to be out of the restaurant. If we're going out to eat on a school, we need to be out by 8:30 is the rule, Chris.

[Jon Weiner]

The funny thing is you said sometimes we get caught and I thought it was because your kid would mess up and say dad wants it like. And no, your kid is actually.

[Jessica]

No, no, I have her trained. Yeah, yeah. She doesn't cover me.

[Jon Weiner]

You're the one who's messing up.

[Amin Elhassan]

When I see family patterns develop in that household, like, you understand that she is telling Chris Cody as if he were a toddler. Not after 8:30.

[Jessica]

Oh, it's to Graceland. She says that, but I know the rule cause I'm an adult.