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This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
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Folks, listen up. April 7, 6:30pm Eastern on LeBatard Show YouTube. It's the cheap seats, 305 Equinox, three games, one stream, no plan. Dan will be there. We'll all be there. It's going to be a lot. And it's presented by Never Miss yous Shot Golf.
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You said that fairly breathlessly. I'm hoping next Tuesday Greg Cody stays here all day to be a part of that. 6:30pm Eastern in 305 equinox. It's basically something that we're doing with Never Miss your Shot Golf because the Panthers, the Heat and the Marlins are all playing at the same time. And we're going to start popping up every once in a while in different formats like this to give you bonus shows, extra shows, and do stuff like this a week from now, a week from today. I see that Trist is here. Juju has had an emergency. We will talk to him later this week. But you can watch Trist on the Alley Oop on DLS Hoops on Tuesday and the LeBatard YouTube channel on Fridays, as well as GoodFollow on Thursdays on the GoodFollow YouTube channel.
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Not a week from today. Just wanna clean that up. April 7th is a Tuesday, so Tuesday we will be doing the sports Equinox.
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You know what? My bad. I saw Greg Cody and I thought it was Tuesday and I forgot that it was Wednesday. So thank you for that correction. I've got a number of things to get to with Trista, but I wanted to ask her and Amin both if they were interested in the last place where good sports documentaries are being made. Untold has Lamar, Adam and Trailblaz. And I didn't know whether you guys were interested in either of those stories, one more than the other.
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Well, Jailblazers, baby.
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Come on.
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There's a lot of people who say that the Jailblazers were the worst period in Trailblazer history. I think for me, in my childhood, it was the best.
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Dan, I would not classify Untold as the last place where great sports documentaries are getting made because most of these untold stories are glorified PR pieces for the people who are being covered by them. I always will go back to that Tim Donaghy one where it was just like, hey, we're just gonna publish all of his lies as told by him and pretend that it's real. And so I've always since then looked at these untold stories with a massive grain of salt like I don't know how much of this I can trust. It's just the subject telling us their side of the story.
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Well, Trista, that's a Good correction by a.m. i should have said where the last of the good ideas are going because everybody's been trying to make that Jailblazers documentary for about 15 years and the only way they got it made probably is because they sanitized it. So Tristram, what were your thoughts on what amend you said?
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Well, I think we'll know that the fix is in if we do not showcase the weed that they got caught for bringing in through the airport in a ball of tinfoil. That's like the peak Jailblazers. Or when they got stop going from Portland to Seattle or maybe Seattle back to Portland and they got pulled over. If those stories are not told, then truly the fix is in because those are the things that were huge in the lore of the Jailblazers in the Portland community, and we kind of hold them near and dear to our hearts.
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Jaden Ivy story Jaden Ivey's mom being the Notre Dame women's basketball coach, what were the most interesting parts of the Jaden Ivey story to you?
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Well, the thing that's kind of crazy to me about it and that we talk about, hey, we don't want to hold parents. We don't want to hold children accountable when their parents go crazy on the Internet. Like Flage's mom, right, was like, hey, it doesn't matter that South Carolina beat lsu. My daughter still winning on the court and we don't feel like Flage should be responsible for what her mom is saying. And I wanted to kind of get you guys' thoughts on whether we should hold or at least ask questions about those that are parents in the public eye when their children that are in a public eye say wild things because now Ivy is the women's head coach of the Notre Dame team, which is a Catholic university. Jade and Ivy clearly said some things about Catholicism, but Notre Dame in general has been had some circulation or some rumors around homophobia where Olivia Miles, who I'm actually wearing her TCU jersey right now, transferred out of Notre Dame and did not go to the draft and went to TCU because of I don't know if it was her issues around Hannah Hidalgo and some of the comments that Hannah Hidalgo made where she reposted a Candace Owens post about men and women are the only ways that you could have a marriage. But now I'm questioning Nell. Ivy is how does she feel about Some of these things and nobody's asking, really, Nell, Ivy, what she thinks. And now Jaden Ivey says that his wife is not returning his text messages and his family has betrayed him. So I think it's just interesting when you talk about a kid in the public eye when their parent is a coach of a university as well.
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All right, we talked about this some yesterday, but can I talk about it more plainly now? Do you guys feel like sports is equipped in any of these to actually just deal with an episode when families aren't equipped, mental health professionals aren't equipped?
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No, but.
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But nobody. No, but when you're having something, when you're having a situation where a guy is melting down in public and throwing away his career as his family tries to intervene, but no one can talk sense to him, that's like classic diagnosis of mental health episode. If we were able to do this, just watching it on television, not just sports.
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I think very few places in American life are equipped for this unless you so happen to be around a mental health specialist. It's a very difficult thing. And it's not a broken arm, you know, it's happening between the ears. It's a very difficult thing to understand, and we're sorely lacking in that.
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You can't rescue this person. No, go ahead. How do you rescue this person?
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I was just gonna say, like, you can have mental health issues and still hold bigoted ideas and, like, you can still have hateful things and beliefs that you hold. And it's a matter of how you package them and how you frame them and whether you want to vocalize them over and over and over again. I think it's clear that Jaden Ivy's having some sort of manic episode because he can't get off of Instagram Live. It really feels a lot like Antonio Brown to me when he just continues to do that CT ESPN thing. But it still is something that you can't really say, oh, well, Jaden Ivy is just mentally ill. So everything that he is saying, we're just going to, like, sweep under the rug.
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The thing about this, though, Trista, that I keep coming back to because I lived it with my brother. I don't know that I articulated this well enough to people yesterday when I say that my brother became someone that I did not recognize. The height of a manic episode is everyone telling you you're crazy and you looking back and saying, no, I'm the only one who's. Everyone else is crazy. And that's how you lose everyone. The manic Bulletproof episode. Never mind the bigoted ideas. Just where you lose everybody is. No, the world's priorities are wrong and mine are correct. I'm being wronged here by a bunch of people who have this all wrong. That's what the episode is.
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Well, Tristan, this is also complicated because, you know, there's a culture war going on and he's dishing out takes and many people are making him a victim or applying their own political prism to it. I mean, this happens in basketball. Kyle Singler had this going on. Kyle Singler was a better pro than Ivy ever was, and he wasn't playing anymore. In part because of these episodes, Ivy, to an extent, is being given more grace, and he probably should because he finds himself with unlikely allies right now. Trista.
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Yeah, I think that's true, but I think at the end of the day, what you guys didn't discuss is it isn't this the fact that he was displaying anti gay ideals and like that the right wing wants to jump on that, but you can't mess with the money, right? And at the end of the day, the league and the program is bigger than any one player. And you guys said, oh, if he was a better player, I think he'd get away with this. I don't think think if you're somebody that's even on the level of Steph Curry or Damen Lillard, if you just keep pestering your teammates and keep preaching and keep asking media, have you been saved? And going on rants and raves on Instagram Live. The the comp is Antonio Brown like that. He was the best receiver in the league and out the league very, very quickly. Once he started those manic episodes and started becoming so unpredictable that it was bad for the shield, bad for the money, and like, nobody is good enough to be bad for the money.
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To me, part of this whole story is how wide open is your personal life if you're a public figure as relates to Jaden Ivey's mom, Trista, if you're covering a Notre Dame game and in the post game interview, are you entitled to ask Jaden Ivey's mom about what he's saying and that situation, or do you consider that to be off limits?
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You know, that's such a good question and I almost feel like I should be asking you that because I was never trained as a journalist. I think my skill has been that I am a blurter and I ask very inappropriate things and my mind goes to a place where it's past the limits of probable journalistic Professionalism. I asked Az Fudd about something I saw in her open duffel bag and she's like, oh, not you. Just looking in my bag and asking me about the book inside of there. And I think that's probably borderline. My instinct says it depends. If Notre Dame was in the Final Four right now, would I feel comfortable asking her about it? I'd be comfortable texting someone who was also in that locker room to ask her about it. I don't know if I would do it.
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I.
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But I do feel like we should at least get her thoughts considering that Olivia Miles left the program. And a lot of the reason that people said that she left the program was because she's an out lesbian and she didn't feel comfortable being in the environment at Notre Dame for whatever reason. She goes to a Christian university that is apparently more inclusive and welcoming to her and her lifestyle. And Hannah Hidalgo has come out and said, well, I. I am not a homophobe. Like, these were just. It was just a misunderstanding. If Nell Ivy's in that locker room, I kind of do want to know. Or in that press conference, I kind of do wanna know. Like, where do you stand on this issue because your own son is so fervent in being anti gay that. And this all has happened around your program, like, I just kind of want to know. Like, where are you at on it? Is that, Is that wrong though, Greg? Like, what do you think?
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No. As a journalist, I think they're both grown people. Okay. And it's newsworthy for all of the reasons you say. And so I think in a post game news conference, it's okay to tread very carefully in asking the mom, how are you dealing with why Jaden's in the news right now? Now, if you're dealing. I'm very curious how Charlie woods is dealing with his dad's latest problem. I'm not sure if I would ask Charlie woods that because he's still a teenager. I think so. Some of it depends on age and the level of public.
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But what is the responsibility? Because we are talking about. Look, sports is supposed to be a place where all this stuff gets sussed out in all the ways it gets sussed out. What is her responsibility as public voice and face of a team in a sport where they also have had a number of anti feelings from the public because this is a disproportionately gay league. And so all of this stuff merging together. What is the responsibility of the journalist and the coach here?
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I think it's to ask the question now, the coach is very entitled to answer the question, as a mom might, and say, this is a family matter.
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Yeah, but that's not what she's asking about. That Trist is not asking, how do you feel about your son melting down? That's not the question. How do you feel? Is not there. The question is, how do you feel about gays in your locker room? How do you feel like she's asking, how do you present this question in a way that's journalistically responsible but also gentle, because a mom is in the middle of a public thing that's really uncomfortable.
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They're intertwined, though, those two things. They're intertwined. You're asking the mom, the coach, that question because of her son and because of her own locker room. They're intertwined, and that makes it doubly newsworthy, in my opinion.
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Dan, this is very reminiscent of the Tim Hardaway interview that you guys did years ago. I think one of my early conversations with you was about that interview and not knowing that you guys were the interview where it happened. But it's just a question that has nothing to do, although obviously it's spurred upon by the actions of her son. It's a question about, hey, this is something. And by the way, in the NBA, in men's basketball, it's still kind of a taboo thing. That's not the case in women's basketball. So I think it's totally within bounds, within reason to ask that question of her, not only because of what her son just went through, but also because of the situation with the player who transferred out.
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Trista.
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Yeah. And I think, Greg, the question in framing it is if you say, how do you feel? Then she's going to come out like a mom. And if she answers at all and say, you know, we're doing our best, yada yada. But how do you ask it in a pointed way where it's like, we want to know where you stand on having gay players, especially considering there's other coaches. For example, Kim Mulkey has been rumored. Or it was reported that she basically turned her back on Brittney Griner and told Brittney Griner, we don't want to hear about how gay you are or not. And it would be better if you just stayed away from the team. You had your time. We loved you at Baylor. Like, you don't need to come back. That's something that clearly is happening with coaches and their players, and that's something that there is whispers and rumblings about within Notre Dame. And I almost feel like it's a possibility that it was never Hannah Hidalgo that was the reason that Olivia Miles transferred out, and that maybe it was Neil Ivey instead.
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This kind of stuff needs to be asked about. These questions need to make their ways into all of the uncomfortable corners. It's the job of journalism, no matter how uncomfortable that is, to get at truth, whether it's uncomfortable or not.
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Dan, Even if it's irrelevant.
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Irrelevant?
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Is it relevant in the. I mean, relevant in the moment?
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A whole lot of people are arguing right now that sexuality in general shouldn't in any way be relevant to anything that's in this arena, that it doesn't. That none of it belongs here. But to ignore is to ignore the uncomfortable truth of why the hell is Christian Wilkins not in the sport? Why the hell is this happening at Notre Dame?
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Yeah.
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Don LeBatard Surely every time you're watching this, you recognize that your wife is laughing. That she married. She married Larry David.
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I do. Yeah. One of the great characters in the history of television. In my humble opinion and. And to my credit, my personality.
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In my humble opinion. Followed by to my credit, to my. It's amazing.
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My personal.
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Just amazing.
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Predate Curb youb Enthusiasm Stugarts.
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Oh, wow.
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I'm not going to say Larry David patterned himself.
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You copy? All right, put it on the poll, please. Juju did Greg Cody copyright being an asshole long before Larry David.
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This is the Dan Levatar show.
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I want to move on to other stuff here though, because Dan Hurley is saying that he thought the referee was trying to chest bump him. If you did not see the end of this game, it was amazing for a lot of reasons, including Dan Hurley. Half his jacket was over his shoulder in the celebration. This has to be among the most improbable wins that Dan Hurley has ever been a part of. And at the end he is forehead to forehead with the referee and that should probably be a technical. In all other circumstances, Dan Hurley's explanation that he was just chest bumping. He thought that the ref was coming over to chest bump with him. Seems sarcastic. Trista, should there be a penalty here? How is it that the joy of this moment is such that people are ignoring that? It feels like Dan Hurley kind of headbutted a referee.
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I think it's the opposite, truly. I think it's so many people who have lost the plot of Dan Hurley who are so upset with his antics that they don't fully appreciate how good he is for the sport. The fact that we have moments that are probably infinite when it comes to Dan Hurley as the head coach of UConn. He's going to give us gold for the rest of his career. We're. We can do 15 minutes just on a headbutt. He's a madman in the best possible way. And I think because people are upset with how he talks to refs, the way that he's pushing his players back on the court, the way he says, oh, we got. After they lost to Florida last year. It's one of those situations where I feel like that's an incredible moment. And the ref saying, oh, yeah, no, there was nothing to see here. We were just celebrating or whatever the ref said. I think that's hilarious as well. But also, I just want to spin the block because this is who I am. Like, I told you guys, I told you guys about UConn before they lost to St. John's after they lost,
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she's a victory lap.
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She's learning how to. And Wilbon, remember that thing I said I got right? I told you guys about UConn as if she wasn't her pants.
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She did tell us about UConn, a team that's gone the three of four Final Fours and won two championships back to back.
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It has a potential for a third.
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That triple zeros hit the clock. The referee is technically off the clock now. Can't he just be like, yeah, it was kind of awesome. This sports really cool. Can you imagine what we do for a living? How amazing is this? Yeah. I'll see you next game.
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A little Chris Gatling with Sean Camp. Dab him up.
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I think that's what that was like. Yeah, it was pretty cool. I'm glad to be a part of it. He can't do that after the game.
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0.3 seconds left.
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Come on.
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There's always these refs in, like, AU leagues and rec leagues that. That do that. I don't like that, man. Like, they're like, oh, that's a hell of A move right there with the whistle half in his mouth.
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I love that ref. You can't be like Billy Crystal and forget Paris. Do the three and high five Reggie Miller on the way out. Come on, it's sports. It's awesome.
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What Trista is saying there, though, that is cool, because you do really have to sort of appreciate the history here at least a little bit, right? This conference hasn't been something that mattered the way that it did in the 90s when the coaches dominated college sports. And now you have Patino as the second highest paid coach in the conference, second only to this most amazing career from a college basketball creature unlike any we've seen. Billy Dunn. Donovan did not behave this way.
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Dude, this is insane. We are not talking about dan Hurley and UConn with enough reverence and respect. We're not. This is an insane run. He's already had a better career than Tom izzo. It's been 26 years since Tom Izzo won a national title. He. He can win three. He can win three national titles in four years, though. We were talking about it. I mean, like, what's the comp on this kind of run, this Final Four run?
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Wooden.
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It's John Wooden. It's John Wooden. Trista.
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Yes. Like, I think Hurley will go down as the second best college coach of all, maybe third after Coach K. But like, to be to. To pop in this level and to have this type of dominance. And I think the thing that we have to put it into context around is the Nil era, like Wooden and Coach K. For the most part of Coach K's career, these players were staying at. At Duke. These players were staying at ucla. These were the blue bloods. Dan Hurley is having to refresh this roster in a school and at a place where everybody's for sale. And Dan has a lens. He has a type of player that he recruits. I swear, when I'm going to bed, I watch Dan Hurley clips and interview bites. I am his biggest fan. I think what he has done in the NIL era might be more impressive than any college coach in history.
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And also, this is a guy who, on this show we interviewed talking about the Lakers job where they offered him six years and 70 million to coach LeBron AD, who would have coached Luka. And he's like, no, I'm good.
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And we were like, wow, that's kind of weird.
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I'm troubled by Trista's nighttime behavior. I'm troubled by her just checking press conference clips. She's. It's too much early. Come on get yourself together.
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It's always nighttime.
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And some magnesium lotion for the feet. I don't know if you guys have tried doing that, but I did that for the first time last night. Put magnesium lotion on. I was out like a light. Gentlemen.
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I do that.
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That is good, actually.
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Oh, wow. Am I 70?
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No.
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Did I just find out I was actually 70?
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There's no way you put lotion on your feet.
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Lotion on that. Feet.
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Trista, have you seen those feet? Are you familiar?
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No.
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Oh, my God. All right, we're gonna put one of these dinosaur talons on the screen for you here in a second.
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No, we don't have.
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He doesn't.
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They have it at the ring.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah.
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One of the photos they always have at the ring.
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Waterlog.
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Former foot model.
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Look there. That's better. That's Nosferatu's foot. If I told you that right there.
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Dinosaur.
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It doesn't go flat on the ground.
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That foot doesn't go flat on the ground.
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If I told you that that is the. The foot of the demon angel. That is Nosferatu.
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Dan in Teen Wolf, the first thing that used to change was his nails. And it looked exactly like that.
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Wait a second. That foot doesn't go flat.
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It's like the beat. It's like the way the beast in
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Beauty and the Beast look. This picture is perfect for a number of different reasons. Most of all, that one. It's not just that's the talon of a giant bird of prey, a gargoyle of some sort. It's that that foot is levitating because it cannot touc the weight of the nails. The yellow jaundiced nails in the front make it so that it cannot be flattened.
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And the beautiful thing about this is. Trista, do you have any reference point to what is next to that foot?
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No clue.
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Okay, so if we were. If we were to zoom out. He's frying a turkey.
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Yes.
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In front of his garage.
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Hot bubbling oil is the answer to Tony's question, what is near that? Barefoot? And the reason, just so that we're clear about this, the foot is not afraid of the burning oil. The burning oil is afraid of the foot. Be clear on this.
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It's an impenetrable skin. I was worried he was going to JPP his own foot and it would actually make the foot look better. But no, now that you say it makes more sense, because that's. That's the hoof of a devil.
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That is a good question by Trista. Put it on the poll At Lebatard show. Would Greg Cody's foot look better if he only had four of the toes? Because it would if I lopped off that big toe. I've made for a. For a foot that is not only more hygienic, it is less of the devil's foot.
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Trista, I apologize for all of this. I'm sorry you had to see that.
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But my wife does do that. And magnesium will help you go to bed at night. That is something that is. Is a universal truth. I did not know that it was something that was a universal truth. On your feet, though, Trista.
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I didn't know that you. You guys were such hippies. Dan, that's such a hippie thing to do.
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Yes.
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I'm proud of you for evolving into the new age.
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I like to be able to sleep better. That is something that I crave. You don't have anybody beating Gino Auriemma in the women's tournament. Right. And is this the best team he's ever had? Because it feels he's had plenty of giant overwhelming teams, but he hasn't had giant overwhelming teams in a competitive era.
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He says no. And I think he would probably say because he loves Paige Beckers like his own child, that the Page season, that that roster was better because he just came out with some quotes, I think either yesterday, the day before, and he was like, we shouldn't be this good. Which I think is kind of a whack thing to say when your team is still playing. But yeah, when you're 38 and oh, and you're coming off of a title. And again, putting it into the context of the NIO era, which I know is a bit different on the women' side. You could make it out to be the most dominant Yukon team, but I think you have to still look at those Taurasi years and those are the ones where they were really smacking everybody.
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Wasn't as competitive though it was. There weren't as many good teams.
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Right. But at the high end, look, you could argue we got four number one seeds and an historic point differential for the number one seeds to make it to the final four. I do think Trisa, it harkens back to a time where there were like three top dogs. It always seemed to be Pat Summit versus Gino.
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Yeah, I think you're right. And I think that's what is going to have to change in the sport as more and more good players come in. But listen, like Juju Watkins tore acl. She was out all this year. I think she probably could have played in the tournament, but she doesn't want to lose a year of eligibility. They now have another, the number one overall player coming in to usc. So they have Jazzy, they've got juju, and they've got Saniya hall coming in. So USC is, is coming and I think that will add a little flavor to things. I think maybe what we saw from from Notre Dame where we get some transfers. But listen, like TCU was in that game against South Carolina, they just didn't have the depth and they didn't have the, the physicality. And when Martha Suarez went down with the tweak knee, that was really when.
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Gone and that's how that has to end. We will talk Trista. We will talk to Trista the next time. You can watch Trista on the Alley OOP on DLS Hoops on Tuesday and the le Batard Show YouTube channel on Fridays as well as Good follow on Thursdays on The Good Follow YouTube channel.
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Don LeBatard I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.
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Stugats don't do it. This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats.
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That is it for Trista. She gets one bad connection and she's gone. I actually wanted her thoughts on Tiger Woods. I wanted her thoughts on why it is she's wearing that TCU jersey, but that's it. I don't trust her connection anymore. And we're live, and we got to keep the show moving. So if you want to keep her in the corner complaining and yelling, but I got to ride the hot foot. I got to ride the. The hot hand here. We have not had enough Greg Cody in the show today because you cannot get enough Greg Cody in the show. Zaslow, his nemesis, is not in this week because allegedly he's skiing. And he has said that he would send us videos of him skiing. But I'm pretty sure that Zaslow, who knows nothing about the winter, does not know how to dress for the winter. I'm guessing he hasn't sent any videos because he has failed to realize that there are some times that you can go to a place to ski and not check the weather and realize that there's not snow there. And I'm guessing that's what's happened to Zaslo here because he wanted to be a part of the show this week. He was going to send videos. He hasn't sent videos. And I'm guessing it's because he's ashamed because he has failed at skiing. He has chosen a resort community that does not have snow on a ski trip.
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He can't ski.
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He's not a skier. Zazlow.
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That is a funny visual, him skiing.
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It is. It's an impossible video. Zaslo is the kind of guy who would buy the outfit. He's the kind of guy rent skis and take a photo of himself on the ski lift.
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Are you profile?
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Never. And never ski.
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I'm pretty sure he does ski. I'm. I. I think that's why he was going.
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No chance. He's got a big ass head.
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I'm with Dan. He has regularly through the years ski.
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Well, it's probably.
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So what are you doing? You're profiling him based on just looking at him. You're saying that he can't be a skier? Because I'm pretty sure if you go on a skiing vacation. Now, maybe I've got this wrong, because I think most skiers know to check the weather before they go on a skiing vacation. So maybe he is a real amateur here because it's a pretty. It's a foolish thing to do to plan a ski trip at a time that's the beginning of spring when maybe some parts of the country don't have the kind of snow that you want
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to criticize people that book a trip to Miami and then it's raining. Like you book these things months out. You hope the weather.
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I go to wine country. It doesn't make me a vintner. You know, I don't know what that has to. Just because he goes to where there's skiing.
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So you're, what's, what's the allegation you're making?
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Are you not a skier?
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Fraud?
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Yeah.
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So you think that Zasla went on a ski vacation, but is not a skier, was just going to meander around,
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around the resort, be photographed on the
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slope near the muffins.
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Right.
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But. Okay, we'll find out.
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He's drinking a hot toddy in the lodge.
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That guy near the muffins?
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No, lodge. A hot toddy. He's having a hot chocolate in the muffin. He's there to put on the ski cap and to go and get the hot chocolate and the muffin in the lodge and to take a couple of photos to show everyone in South Florida that he's skiing. When, as college football's expert for ESPN Radio, he travels to cold weather places and does the clothes because he's been dressed like a beach bum for as long as I've known him.
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And there it is. Right. Like, that lays out why it's preposterous that he's a skier. He doesn't even own a jacket. Come on, man.
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What?
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He's been skiing in T shirts and shorts his whole life. Get out of here. The guy's a fraud.
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He is somebody who dresses like it's always spring break. He does not have the clothing in his closet to go to Wisconsin for a college football game. But he was doing that this season. I just want for the record what the. The accusation is. Because I want to. Why would you go on a ski vacation if you weren't going to ski? That sounds dumb.
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I mean, I'm sure he probably wanted to ski, but the way that your favorite topic is global warming or whatever. There wasn't enough. Wasn't enough snow.
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My dad went to Colorado and just did a bunch of gummies.
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There you go. I mean, maybe that's a whole different story.
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You're the kind of guy, though.
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I am the kind of.
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Wait a minute. You're a guy who does gummies? Since when?
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Well, when in Rome? I mean, when this was back when
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like Colorado was like the only spot you could go. What?
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Since when do you. I have not heard any of these stories and to date, Mad Dog Russo is the only one who has crossed the journalistic bridge too far of I do gummies. While it is that I'm watching sporting events, I did not know that Greg Cody was a gummy user. Now we're here, it requires some follow up questions.
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Well, back then, you know, you walk into. Everything's legal there. I mean, I didn't do anything illegal. I'm walking into a place, one of those places.
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Dispensary.
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Yeah, a dispensary. And I. I buy a little tube of gummies.
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Did you do it correctly? Did you did what was Greg Cody's riding high experience on gummies?
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I will say. I will say that it was Dan.
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He put him up his ass. No, he didn't do it right. He didn't do them correctly.
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He do too much.
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He was handed. He was handed gummies and he's like,
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I know how to take a gummy, believe me.
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Okay, listen, the reason I am asking the question, I thought I had told you guys this story and I have just heard a number of different. Different stories like the one I'm about to tell you. Okay. I made the classic rookie mistake of
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went in for another one.
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This gummy's not doing anything. It didn't work. Let me have another one. Not understanding the first time that I was doing this that you should be waiting 40 or 45 minutes. So when I asked the question of did you do it correctly? It's not because I thought that Greg Cody arrived at the desperate dispensary and then decided to try the gummy analy. No, I. While I enjoyed you guys pantomiming the idea of putting a thermometer up your butt. No, it's not because I thought Greg Cody.
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It was the actual gummy that they were putting up, not a thermometer.
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Whoa. Sour.
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In fairness, the tube of gummies did not come with directions. Okay. It's just like that.
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It is not an unreasonable question for me to ask if Greg Cody's first experience or if this was his first experience with gummies was something that he had done incorrectly and might birth a
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funny story, he just said it. Strangely, I do think unless you're around people that had bad first time experiences and coach you along the way, take. Take this much. Most people kind of overdo it their first time. Well, I know I did.
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I took advantage of my uncommonly large nostrils by trying to snort the gummy. That didn't work. Okay, that didn't work. And so then what I did. This is a true story story. I took.
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Not the snorting part.
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I took a gun. No, not that. I took a gummy.
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Let them cook.
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I took a gummy. And like you, I thought it would be instant. It wasn't instant. I popped another gummy. We're going to dinner about an hour after that. And let's put it this way, I ordered about 45 appetizers at that restaurant because by that time the two gummies had kicked in and that kind of thing. Haven't had a gummy since.
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So the answer to my question is you did do it incorrectly. As everyone in the group just jumped down my throat.
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No, I mean he did it the right way. He just did too much. Yeah, it's the way you asked, right? Not what you asked.
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You said it. You asked.
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You asked like someone that wasn't human, right?
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Yes, thank you.
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Like someone that wore human skin. Trying to learn things about fire alarm, fire sensor.
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I'm just wearing human skin. Aren't we all?
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Put it on the poll at Levittard show. I'm just wearing human skin. Aren't we all? Question mark, yes or no?
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I feel like we've all been there, right? Where you take too many edibles, you're just like, whoa.
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I, I had to make the decision, am I going to call for a helicopter or am I just going to die here? And I decided I'm just going to die here. And I didn't see, I didn't have
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the thing where like dad, when you did it, you just got really hungry. I did that thing, remember when you were in class sleeping in high school and you would like feel like you're falling off a mountain.
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Yeah.
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Like where you're just, you're sleeping in class and all of a sudden you think you're falling. That kept happening to me. I was sitting at my father in law's movie premiere and I was just way too. And I just kept feel like I was falling out of my chair. This was three months ago.
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Don't. Don't do gummies or any edibles on an island that's only accessible by boat.
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I really thought that somebody was gonna ask the follow up, why would you have needed a helicopter? I thought somebody might have the question when you volunteered it. And I thought everyone had heard perhaps that you already had said you were on an island.
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No, it was a hoity toity resort in the Keys that's accessible by boat. There's no bridges there, so if you were to get immediate attention, you would need a helicopter to come in. And I didn't want to be that guy on account of MJF gave me this chocolate bar that was way too strong.
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I just want you, picture in picture, to look at the video that they keep putting up there of what it is that you were doing.
A
I didn't give permission for that. No, that's not. No, that's not right. That's the last time I try to help you guys with psychics. Please take it off.
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Hold on. If you play it in reverse, it looks like he's wiping his ass and then sniffing it.
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Thanks. Not doing that anymore. Honestly. Screw you guys. That's not cool. Learned your lesson. All because Dan said something weird, and I was trying to, you know, make chicken salad.
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I just heard. Okay. Shouted, and it sounded like somebody desperately holding on to a buoy at sea against waves where he was about to drown. But far away from a microphone, I just heard Louis screaming. We're efforting the reversal of that video to make it look like you. You just wiped your butt and then put it up to your nose. So there is a complete panic now in the other room where video wastes a great deal of time and money. And we have blown through the clocks because we have to finish this segment on the visual joke of. Of Mike reversing the video so that. And I don't trust video when they yell we're efforting, and it sounds like they're lost at sea to get punctuation on this joke at the end of a segment that alienates the audio audience because we're trying to get to the visual joke of we're efforting. Now we're stuck here. No, now we got to finish and get the stupidity. A video has made the judgment call of this is a good idea. We have to blow through the clock so that we can get the visual joke that upsets Mike. So now we're just going to wait here until this happens.
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now I just have to sit here and wait for them to finally find that video. So I'll ask him mean what Mark Cuban said where he now regrets not selling the Mavericks, but who he sold the Mavericks to. Because as we said earlier in the show, Luca has more points in in March for the Lakers that Anthony Davis had for the Mavericks in totality. Greg, what are you trying to show me as I try to transition the show to a mean and you're showing me something on your computer to read while I'm talking?
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I have a valuable update here. I just googled the phrase will a marijuana gummy taken anally produce an effect? The answer is yes, a marijuana gummy taken rectally will produce an effect, but it will likely be be different from eating it with a higher rate of absorption, 50 to 70% efficiency and a faster onset, usually within 10 to 15 minutes. So a suppository, that kind of thing.
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hour 1: Magnesium Lotion (feat. Trysta Krick)
Date: April 1, 2026
Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and a rotation of contributors—including guest Trysta Krick—serve up their irreverent blend of sports analysis, pop-culture banter, and offbeat humor. In this hour, the crew dives into the intersections of sports, mental health, and social issues, while also serving listeners the show’s signature detours into personal quirks, bizarre anecdotes, and comedic tangents. Key topics include criticisms of sports documentaries, Jaden Ivey's public family turmoil, handling of mental health in athletics, questions concerning homophobia in women’s basketball, reflections on Dan Hurley and UConn basketball, and some delightfully gross talk about Greg Cody’s infamous feet.
Amin Alhassan (on Untold documentaries):
“Most of these untold stories are glorified PR pieces for the people who are being covered by them.” (01:53)
Trysta Krick (on the Jailblazers):
“We’ll know the fix is in if [the doc] doesn’t showcase the weed they got caught bringing through the airport in a ball of tinfoil.” (02:48)
Dan Le Batard (on family mental health crises):
“The height of a manic episode is everyone telling you you’re crazy and you looking back and saying, no, I’m the only one who’s right… That’s how you lose everyone.” (07:00)
Trysta Krick (on boundaries in journalism):
“How do you ask [the coach] in a pointed way where it’s like, we want to know where you stand on having gay players…?” (14:17)
Dan Le Batard (on Dan Hurley):
“We are not talking about Dan Hurley and UConn with enough reverence and respect. This is an insane run.” (23:02)
Trysta Krick (on Magnesium Lotion):
“I did that for the first time last night. Put magnesium lotion on my feet, was out like a light, gentlemen.” (24:48)
The episode is firmly embedded in the show’s hallmark: rapid-fire wit, social critique, self-deprecation, and a willingness to drag both sports and its own staff into the absurd. Moments of empathy and gravity around mental health and social issues coexist with pure nonsense on personal hygiene and recreational drug faux pas, making for a listening experience that’s both riotous and resonant.
For more from Trysta, find her on ‘The Alley Oop’ (Tuesdays), the Le Batard YouTube (Fridays), and ‘GoodFollow’ (Thursdays) on its YouTube channel.