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Stugotz
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Dan Le Batard
Before we get to Michelle Beadle here. Always happy to see Michelle when she graces us with her presence. Can you give us the Hampton Farms winner here this week on the Hampton Farms Nuttiest Fan of the Week please?
Chris
Chris yes, Dan. Congrats to the Virginia fans. They are this week's Nuttiest Fan presented by Hampton Farms, the official official snack nut of the tailgate. Keep an eye out for Lucy at Notre Dame this week if you think you are your team's nuttiest fan and this was one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Usually when you storm a field you have to jump down to something. This was just people taking off onto the field. Somebody had to get hurt.
Dan Le Batard
It did look like World War Z. It did look like the fastest of the zombie apocalypse. I can't believe how fast they got out there. They are very lucky there was not a penalty flag on the play because it would have been hard to retrieve everyone. Michelle, it is nice to see you. I've got a number of different questions but me too. Are you someone who who laments and polices the the storming of the field or are you someone who is pro Joy for everyone, even if it comes with calamitous injury.
Michelle Beadle
Well, that one was scary only because the player there was a player still down. So it was like, oh, this is gonna be a problem. I was watching with a friend of mine who's not a sports fan, and she was just like, is this normal? I'm like, it's not that it's normal. That one looked particularly crazy. But no, look, when I was at ut, we went up to College Station to watch the Longhorns play the Aggies and we beat them and we the field and they have those soldier people and they were rough with us and we left and went back to Austin. So, like, it's the thing. It's a rite of passage. As long as no one gets severely hurt, I think we're good.
Chris
I can actually, I can argue that that was safer than most because a lot of times it's like a long drop and you see these people who aren't prepared and they hurt their ankles on a long fall sometimes. So I actually think while this looked dangerous, this was probably safer than a lot of field stormings.
Michelle Beadle
That's actually. That's a great point. Physics. By the way, Dan, what's the vibe here? I love this for you. I really think this is.
Dan Le Batard
It's just an honor of you being San Antonio at your door. I decided to dress up for you so that you would feel welcome here. And wow.
Michelle Beadle
I never real. That's like uncanny. What's going on right now?
Dan Le Batard
I'm having trouble with the mutton chops. They keep falling off because they've got eyelash glue on them and they get stuck to the headsets and stuff. Yeah. But I'm going for the gemstones here. Jesse J.
Michelle Beadle
Obviously.
Dan Le Batard
Are you a gemstones person?
Michelle Beadle
I'm a huge, huge, huge fan. Love. Judy was just out in South Carolina, which I guess is where McBride has homes or a home and never saw him. But that would have been a. That would have been a good celebrity spotting for me. One that I actually would have enjoyed.
Dan Le Batard
She is the host of the NBA show Run It Back with Chandler Parsons and Lou Williams. Whenever I see the name Lou Williams, for some reason, I just. Do you know what I'm going to say here? I just think of his two girlfriends. He seemed to have two girlfriends.
Michelle Beadle
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
And was okay with it. And everybody was okay with it. Have you covered this material with him and Chandler on your show?
Michelle Beadle
I'm not on the show. Like our pre show meetings. Honestly should be half of the show. They are. You guys know how it is like, not really the show being discussed at all. It's more about, like, you know, if Chandler went to prison, would he be the guy who gets it or the guy who gives it?
Dan Le Batard
Good.
Michelle Beadle
Yeah, we have good, good 7am talk.
Stugotz
But which one was it?
Michelle Beadle
He thinks he'd be the one giving, but no chance. He's. No chance. He's too pretty and he's pretty.
Dan Le Batard
He's pretty for prison.
Michelle Beadle
Yeah, he's going to be popular, but L. We've asked Lu. Because I'm obsessed with it. I mean, he did something before the word throuple was just being thrown around. Lou was crushing that lifestyle and is so non. Like, you know, like, Lou's the coolest person I've ever been around without trying. And so he just was like, yeah, everybody knew what was up. There's no lying. There are no secrets. Honestly, it's an honorable way to live. I would suggest he was probably more honest in his relationship than most people are in there. So kudos to Lou.
Dan Le Batard
And what are the. Well, I don't want to ask too many questions here, but what are the unexpected things that might cut up, come up there that people aren't assuming would come up there that would be problematic when you have an open relationship, Like.
Michelle Beadle
Well, I mean, look, I would think from a person who's not had an open relationship, or at least not one that I knew we were having, is that it's, you know, somebody gets jealous or the rules aren't followed or what? Shut up, guys. Or the rules aren't followed. But the way he was doing this, the way he talks about it, everybody was in. Like, everybody was good. They were getting what they needed, both emotionally, physically, like they're all just chill. It made it sound almost like, huh, I'm just not wired that way. But sounded interesting.
Dan Le Batard
What are you expecting from your spurs and Wembanyama? They were quiet last year once he got hurt, and so the growth was a bit stunted on what that team would be. And now Pop is gone. You're expecting what from your Spurs? Because nobody's talking about them.
Michelle Beadle
Well, because it's playoffs or bust as far as I'm concerned. And it's happening. Not play in play offs. I don't care what seed, they'll be the last seed. That's fine. But I. I think that there's. Wemby's back, from all accounts, stronger, healthy. We all were watching him. Everything he was doing over the summer, you know, silence with the monks and just. Just sort of taking over the world. And so, yeah, I. I'm. I'm. I'm all. I'm. Look, I'm a homer. What am I going to sit here and say? Oh, another year of learning. No, man, we're not wasting any more time. It's like we time. I don't want to waste any more years. He's had a nice intro to the league, though. Everybody knows what to expect from him as long as he stays healthy. Knock on wood a thousand times. Yeah, we're doing this. Yeah. I'm weighing it, by the way. Full spurs gear behind me. We are going to take us on.
Dan Le Batard
A tour here on what is behind you. What are some. What is some of the stuff here? Take us through some of the stuff here that's most mean. Is that a candle of your own face? Is that a. Oh, that's popping.
Michelle Beadle
That's pop.
Dan Le Batard
No, the other one. I didn't think that.
Michelle Beadle
Yeah, I know. It could be. My family time's coming. Tina Fey. We've got a glove from when Apple baseball kicked off and they spelled my name wrong and sent it to me. I'm just honored. I was even on some sort of a list. My various. I'm not a good weather person. I'm going the wrong way. My.
Dan Le Batard
You've been on television for a long time, Michelle. I figure you'd be better at this.
Michelle Beadle
I don't. I haven't mastered a green screen. I haven't really had to do one. Spurs shoes. And my Ricky Ricardo. Yeah, he's no longer an F1 driver, but he's still in our hearts. I got my marathon, my half marathons, my Timmy Duncan figurine. Yeah, no, it's just a. And then above it, a thousand pairs of shoes. So it's a good setup.
Dan Le Batard
The Yoda. What's happening with the Yoda there?
Michelle Beadle
I just. He's just a. You know, it's like a God to me. He's got interchangeable parts. You can give him a lightsaber if you want. Otherwise, he's got his nice cane. I keep the cane up. Just keep us all humble, you know?
Dan Le Batard
How about the books? Pick one of the books there that you. That you like. That has some sort of meaning to you of any kind. I'll filibuster for you here, so you can.
Michelle Beadle
Well, no, I like the. I like the Big Bad Book of Bill Murray. Just because I think all things Bill Murray. And then honestly, I like. Hold on, there's two of them, right? Because they were. They were written by friends. And you guys know how it is when Friends write books. You're like, all right, so my buddy Bill Schoning covered the Spurs. He did radio for the spurs for like a. I'm not even kidding, 30 something years. He just retired, like, just retired. And Josh Wolf is my guy and I will read anything that he puts out. I go see him whenever he's in town. You know, he was a single dad for a while and that's not usually the way that goes. So he's got cool stories to tell.
Dan Le Batard
Let's put up on the screen here. Zion. Zion. No, no, no embarrassment here. Zion with the skinny arms here. Zion has lost a, a ton of weight. Zion is as unique a basketball player as there has ever been. And I do wonder, even though shamed him, I do wonder how much strength gets lost with him being this kind of skinny. I don't know enough about the human body and what it takes to be him. What are your thoughts when you see Zion Williamson looking like this?
Michelle Beadle
Well, as a person who treats her body as a temple as well, I can tell you that when you lose weight, you don't necessarily lose the strength because he's. Look, he's got, he's got all the advantages us mere mortals could only dream about. A chef on hand, I'm sure whenever he needs it, if not provided by him, the team, sure, they are surrounded by trainers and nutritionists and the best of the best in the world of physical being. So I don't think he's. I think if anything he'll be faster. I hope that this will keep him from, from being more injury prone. You know, I think he looks great. I think he looks the way we always wanted him to look. And that's horrible to say because who am I to say what we want? But, but you guys know what I mean. As fans of the sport and as fans of Zion, I think this is sort of the dream is like to streamline it and get, get strong. And you know, the pictures are. By the way, some of these pictures coming out of these media days are wild, just ridiculous.
Dan Le Batard
But this is, this is startling. Like, this is if I.
Michelle Beadle
Is it?
Dan Le Batard
Well, I just think I would have a hard time recognizing him if he was not wearing the uniform.
Michelle Beadle
What are you talking. This is not Jonah Hill. Fat, skinny, fat, skinny. This is just Zion.
Dan Le Batard
But he used to be square and now. And now, now he looks like somebody who's a perimeter player.
Michelle Beadle
I know, I'm. Are you not. Are you not excited?
Dan Le Batard
I am excited. I'm excited for healthy Zion, but I am legitimately curious whether or not any of his strength gets impacted by that because it's got. He's got to be 60 or 70 pounds lighter.
Michelle Beadle
Yeah. Which by the way, but think about what you're saying. He's 60 or 70 pounds lighter which means he can jump faster. He's going to be faster every carrying around that extra. We've all been there like carrying around extra weight. Not fun. Well then you know, like it's not fun. Everything's more of an effort and. And you have to like just try so much harder to do what people are doing easily. I think this is going to be. Look I again knock on wood. Cuz he's one of those guys that I think we cheer for but we never get to see it to, to fulfill everything. And I think this version of him. I've got high hopes. Looks great. I was. I was surprised, but in a great way.
Dan Le Batard
She's the host of the NBA show Run it back with Chandler Parsons and Lou Williams. They have exceptional chemistry together. Let's play for Michelle. Some of what Nafisa Collier had to say. I have not seen or heard a player of this caliber go after leadership with this kind of intensity. Caitlin Clark has notarized everything. She's co signed all the points that Nafisa Collier made. Let's play that sound for Michelle.
Nafisa Collier
Please want to be clear. This conversation is not about winning or losing. It's about something much bigger. The real threat to our league isn't money. It isn't ratings or even missed calls or even physical, physical play. It's the lack of accountability from the league office. Since I've been in the league, you've heard the constant concerns about officiating. And it has now reached levels of inconsistency that plague our sport and undermine the integrity in which it operates. Whether the league cares about the health of the players is one thing, but to also not care about the product we put on the floor is truly self sabotage. The league has a buzzword that they've rolled out as talking points for the CBA as to why they can't pay the players what we're worth. That word is sustainability. But what's trul unsustainable is keeping a good product on the floor while allowing officials to lose control of games. Fans see it every night. Coaches both winning and losing pointed out every night in pregame and post game media. Yet leadership just issues fines and looks the other way. They ignore the issues that everyone inside the game is begging to be fixed. That is negligence at unrivaled. This past February I sat across from Kathy and asked how she planned to address the officiating issues in our league. Her response was, well, only the losers complain about the refs. I also asked how she planned to fix the fact that players like Caitlin, angel and Paige, who are clearly driving massive revenue for the league, are making so little for their first four years. Her response was, caitlin should be grateful she makes 16 million off the court because without the platform that the WNBA gives her, she wouldn't make anything. And in that same conversation, she told me players should be on their knees thanking their lucky stars for the meteorites deal that I got them. That's a mentality driving our league from the top. The league believes it succeeds despite its players, not because of them.
Dan Le Batard
Michelle is putting her hand over her smile the way McAfee does when Aaron Rodgers is talking like, what are you, what are you smiling about there?
Michelle Beadle
I mean, first of all, yeah, this is not going to end well for Kathy, but it is shocking, right? This is not a woman. Nafisa Collier is all class. She is very highly involved, not just in the wnba. She's got her own league that she started with Brianna Stewart. So she's not. Not. She's not someone who just sort of sits off to the side and watches. She's involved, she's engaged, she's in it. And you're right for somebody of her caliber to come out and say a prepared statement with receipts was, was a tough here. If you're anybody that's not named Kathy, but I'll say this, good for her. I mean, look, we've all had boss, you and I have had one of the same bosses who thought that they were the whole story and everything they did was why a company was succeeding and not because of all the people that were working hard to make it all happen. Sometimes when a suit will actually say that out loud, which again, we weren't in the room with Nafisa Collier and Kathy, but I, I have to believe her, right? Maybe there's a context to it that we're not getting and we'll never know. That being said, she's going to have to. She's going to end up leaving this. I don't know how you come back from this. I don't even know how you reach out unless you do some sort of tete a tete that's publicly watched from everyone. But you got undressed by one of the biggest names in the league who is respected by everybody. And all of the things she said are sort of the things people have been Whispering. You know, the money aspect of it all. I know everybody's got their different opinions on it. I'm not in their books, but I have to believe there has to be a way to pay a little bit more than what they actually are paying. When you can triple that waiting tables, that's a. That's a tough sell. And also, the thing about, you know, Caitlin Clark making 16 million off the court bothered me too, because. How dare you. She came into the league. She. She was in college as a big deal. So it just felt like she was sort of trying to take some value away from what has been accomplished by these women. And that is not a good look, especially as a woman in charge. It was like a double, double edged sword for me, and I didn't like any of it, but I loved Collier doing it. It's. It's what we all want to do all the time. Well played.
Mike
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Dan Le Batard
Don Le is Captain Slappy. STS is this chum bucket.
Stugotz
This is the D Levatar show with the stuff. Michelle, can I ask you some life advice that I'm curious on?
Michelle Beadle
God, because I. Yeah, because I'm killing it. Go ahead.
Stugotz
Well, no, no, this is more like I. I'm interested in. I'm interested in your perspective on this because I had an incident about a week ago and I feel like you might have some insight on how I should handle this. Situation, how long should I have phone numbers for? And how often should I purge phone numbers? Not including death, because I feel like death. I wouldn't purge numbers just because I wouldn't want to lose the contact. Now, here's the specifics of this scenario where I thought I should probably start purging and getting rid of some numbers. So about a week ago, I tested positive for Covid. So I did what I thought was the responsible thing, and I reached out to coworkers because I had been at the office. I didn't think that I had that, obviously. And then I said, you know what? Let me go to a minute clinic. I'll get, you know, checked out. I probably have, like, some sort of, like, cold flu, whatever. And they're like, oh, you tested positive. So I'm like, I should probably text my co workers and tell them, hey, just a heads up, if you're not feeling well, you should go get tested just in case and take the proper, you know, precautions here. So I texted, you know, instead of texting, we have a lot of people here. So instead of texting, like, 15, 20 people on one chain, I did, like, little groups based on, you know, the departments or where I was hanging out with them or whatever, right? And I didn't want to tell everyone because I don't want to be out there freaking everyone out. There's people that would be unimpacted by this. So I went and I texted this group in this room, and I said, oh, guys, just in case, just so you know, I tested positive. I don't want you to be, you know, worried, but I also don't want to be the irresponsible one that's just not telling you about this. And I had one co worker reach out and say, are you okay? And everyone else just ignored me, which I was like, I guess I should land the plane.
Dan Le Batard
Billy, that's something. That's something. Land the plane.
Stugotz
So then. Then I texted other different groups, and one of the other groups that I texted, I had the person reach one of the two people reach out to me, and they said, hey, who's that number that you texted? And I was like, oh, that's, you know, this person. They're like, oh, that's not the number that I have for that person. And then I went back and I looked and I go, oh, that's not that person. That is someone that I worked with almost 20 years ago at the mall that has the same first name. And I just have first names in there and not last names. So I texted someone that I haven't spoken to in nearly 20 years, and I said, I hate to, you know, tell you this, but I have Covid, and I feel so bad about this situation, but if you're not feeling well, you should probably go and get yourself tested. And. And again, I haven't spoken to this person in nearly 20 years.
Michelle Beadle
And this person, did they respond?
Stugotz
They did not respond. Which part of me was like, wow, you've become so inconsiderate. And then I, like, was like, let me.
Michelle Beadle
Well, they could be dead. They could be dead. Which means then you can't erase the number now.
Stugotz
Not dead. Not dead.
Michelle Beadle
But this is great.
Stugotz
This is a person of the opposite sex. So then I, like, look the person up, and this person. Me and my wife work together at the mall, so she knows this person. So then in my head, I'm like, I wonder if this person now is gonna reach out to my wife and be like, hey, your husband's been texting me, and he's telling me as Covid. And then it'll be situation.
Dan Le Batard
What is the advice that you need from Michelle?
Stugotz
Well, I'm trying to paint the picture accurately so she understands the conundrum that we're in here. Yeah. And then I went. I checked her Instagram. Like, she's, like, in Asia right now. I don't think she's gonna get this. Hopefully she's changed her number. In that case, I've not texted a total stranger telling them that I have Covid, and they have numbers of my coworkers, too. So what is the, I guess, line on when I should probably just remove contacts to protect myself from myself?
Michelle Beadle
You know what? I don't. Now that you're saying I don't think I've ever deleted a number, because I don't. So, you know, you have those friends that constantly are changing their number. So I always put their new. I put their name with, like, the new date so I know whatever the last number was.
Stugotz
But do you delete their old one? Because I don't. I'll just have this person new. And then I'm like, yeah, I will literally never need their old phone number. But then they got a new one afternoon. So I'll either put, like, new new or new 2025. And then was like, Chris, new after Chris new 2025. Like, I don't know.
Michelle Beadle
No, I put the actual date, like, Sean Elliott is. Is known for changing numbers a lot. So I constantly am like, I don't know. Like, right now, I'm not even 100. Sure. Which of these is the current one? If maybe there's even a new one. I have no idea. I would never delete anything, because why? But at the same time, you should mess with everybody in this. Send her a picture of your wee wee, and let's get this thing started.
Stugotz
Now that you don't want to not ask this advice. That is a terrible idea with your wife.
Michelle Beadle
Make it worth the time.
Stugotz
The don't delete anything horrific advice. Thank you for nothing, Michelle.
Michelle Beadle
Why would you ask me for advice?
Stugotz
Hey, you have a birthday coming up. Are you a birthday month person?
Michelle Beadle
No, but it is a big birthday. It's a. It's 50, so yikes. Yeah. So I kind of feel like if I'm gonna do and I got enough friends with money. Yikes. I'm excited.
Dan Le Batard
Why don't you do yikes?
Chris
I was gonna guess 40.
Stugotz
It's almost over.
Michelle Beadle
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm definitely very sad. But all my friends with money, if you're listening, put your monies together and get me something nice. This is a big birthday. I don't want cards. I don't want a cake. I don't want a donut. I know what y' all are working with. Let's. Let's do it. Let's make it happen.
Stugotz
This is one where you text all the Sean Elliott numbers just to make sure he gets the message where, so he knows.
Dan Le Batard
Where does that rank? 50s. A big one. Like where. Where.
Chris
Where would we top five?
Dan Le Batard
It's. Well, it's got to be top three. No, it's got to be top 50 for sure. I would think that. I would think the order would be some. Some combination. 50 and. And 18 are the three big ones.
Michelle Beadle
Wait, is it 18 or 21 and 21?
Chris
16, you drive 21, you can drink. 10's a big one. 10 is not a big 10 is a big one. I have arrived. I have double digits now. That's nine out of here. I'm 10.
Dan Le Batard
Where is 50, Michelle? Where?
Michelle Beadle
Where?
Dan Le Batard
And if you had to rank it and be accurate with the ranking, where is it in the top five?
Michelle Beadle
Honestly, I feel like it's one. And maybe it's because I'm sitting here looking at it, but also because, you know, when you are 21, 50 seems like 100. And I do feel like, you know, you don't know what you're going to feel like when you're 50. You don't want to look like when you're 50. Like, there's a lot going on, and I feel great. So I'm just sort of like, all right, we're going to enjoy this one. Plan a good vacation for next summer. And then. Yeah, like, keep it moving. What you do, Dan?
Dan Le Batard
We had a big party down here. We had a Moss Miami party down here. That was part of the celebration where I invited just about everybody from my life down here for a. Like there were. Yeah.
Stugotz
Where were you, Michelle?
Dan Le Batard
Thousands of people there.
Michelle Beadle
Not invited. But that's just classic Dan and me. This is the kind of friendship that I can't to him.
Chris
I don't care.
Dan Le Batard
Good luck. I played the wrong one.
Mike
Wishing yourself a happy birthday, huh? Damn. Dan.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. Michelle, thank you for being on with us. Always good seeing you. A reminder, she's the host of the NBA show Run it back with Chandler Parsons and Lou Williams. Always nice talking to you. Thank you for stopping in.
Michelle Beadle
You too, guys. I always love it.
Dan Le Batard
Do it more often. We. I was watching during. During some of the baseball yesterday and I saw that a commercial Josh Johnson, not the former Blue Jay and Marlin, but the quarterback Josh Johnson has a commercial because he's played for 14 teams. And so he was just going through the jerseys, but none of them were authentic NFL jerseys because you have to pay for that. And I, whenever I watch the commercials and the commercials have an athlete who's not allowed to wear the gear that. Because that costs extra to put the gear from the NFL in your commercial, it cheapens the product for me. I can't. I can't take the product seriously. But I thought that was good work by Josh Johnson's agent to get him work when he has played for 14 NFL teams.
Chris
I thought you were talking about. There's some company that does the bit of like I need a backup and it's just like random backup quarterback comes in to help you lift this. Paint this picture in your. I think I know Case Keenum has been on there where he just shows up. You need a backup, I'm there for you. But Josh, that's a good agent right there.
Dan Le Batard
Baseball loves stories like the one that I'm about to tell, which is I was mentioning earlier with Dominique that the Yankee third baseman McMahon wears number 19 the way that Aaron Boone wore number 19 when he played third base for the Yankees. And the Yankees haven't done much beating of the Red Sox in the postseason since Aaron Boone hit that home run run off of Tim Wakefield, the late Tim Wakefield.
Chris
I saw that both starting pitchers were like two and three. So like basically they have no recollection of any of like the classic Yankee Red Sox stuff.
Dan Le Batard
The Red Sox were super hurt, right? So they're starting a pitcher in a deciding game Connolly early, who shouldn't be in that situation pitching that game. But the Yankees were counting with countering with Schlitler, who also hasn't started very many games. Do you realize how much adrenaline you have to be on to be Schlitler and throw double digit strikeouts against, against the Red Sox when you've never done it at any level. But I wanted to ask you guys if you saw when McMahon goes over the dugout railing and puts his hands on the dugout floor. You saw the Red Sox total indifference in that dugout about the situation that McMahon found himself in, which is a dangerous one. But there was one Red Sox who actually helped McMahon as he flipped over. And I'm wondering if the other Red Sox are like now mat at him because he did that. I, I think was it Weissert? There was only one red sock who helped. And a lot of people are pointing out Derek Jeter famously went into the crowd one time to catch a foul ball face first.
Chris
I remember that.
Stugotz
That one was.
Mike
And let's be real, this is better because the face first was he could have stopped.
Chris
Let's be honest, I remember being cynical at that, thinking he could have stopped or pulled up.
Mike
He dove into the stands there.
Chris
Now his momentum was flying to stop him, so himself. The other option is what? Fly into the wall.
Mike
But this was actually a catch over the railing. That's the difference in what I'm saying here. Like that was. The momentum carries you over this in this circumstance. Falling over the railing. It was spectacular.
Dan Le Batard
You're just shaking your head yes.
Chris
And man, I just. The Jeter move is so iconic. Like I don't know if I'm gonna be seeing that years from now.
Stugotz
That play, that wild card round. Yeah, I get it.
Chris
When, why it felt big last night, but it was. No, I mean, Jeter had a couple. Like the most impressive Jeter play is the one in front of the catcher, right? The flip to the catch.
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Mike
It sounds to me like everybody could use a hug because a hug is.
Jeremy
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Mike
I have put in my body today is three cups of coffee and an entire cup of honey.
Stugotz
The pound don't let him fool you.
Chris
He said in the break that he's jittery.
Stugotz
This is the D? Ler show with the st. I don't like a fast of three wild card rounds. I think yeah I've been kind of of like I've been dealing with my. I'm trying to work out my emotions here. I wish Michelle was here to ask her because she loved the last story. I've been trying to work out my emotions here on how I feel about the wild card round. Cuz like, game 163 was awesome. Division round used to be the situation where like, ah, you can't celebrate the division round all that much. Right. And now there's an extra round before you even get to the division round where like plays like this, a wild card round play when it's an extra added round to the playoffs. I feel like can't be where classic playoff moments live. And then to take it a step further, celebrations after you win the wild card round to get to the divisional round feel that's where I'm trying to figure out. Like, I want you to be happy about it. If my team was in, I'd be happy about it. But we can't be celebrating it like we just won the pennant. You know what I mean?
Michelle Beadle
Yeah.
Mike
But you also celebrate once you clinch a postseason birth.
Chris
Yeah.
Mike
So this is advancing.
Stugotz
There's the post. Yeah. There's too many celebrations though. Like you could celebrate if you get in and then I guess you could celebrate to get to the World Series. And then obviously you celebrate to win the World Series. But like the divisional round was always like, okay, we're excited to get to now play in the championship round. And now there's a wild card round to get to the divisional round to then get to the league championship, to then get to the World Series. I feel like we need to start saving some of our celebrations.
Chris
I love that you bring this up. I want to play a video here of Stanton after the game last night. Billy. And you be the judge here. Was he celebrating too much?
Michelle Beadle
You'll find a way to get it done.
Stugotz
The only doubt was if that was a homer or not in the first whenever I hit it.
Dan Le Batard
So thank goodness for that bonehead play, that the team was resilient enough and Cam was resilient enough to go out.
Stugotz
And it was.
Dan Le Batard
And it didn't mess up the chemistry or the moment. So that's good.
Stugotz
And kids at home don't do that.
Dan Le Batard
Future opponents, please do that.
Stugotz
I love that bonehead play. So I'm just glad it worked in.
Dan Le Batard
Our favor and it won't happen again.
Michelle Beadle
Champagne celebration and you're giving a lesson to the kids at home.
Chris
That's smirk at the end. He sounds like the Rock.
Dan Le Batard
He. He did stand There watch his home run. Looked into his dugout and should have been thrown out at second base because he thought it was a home run and it bo bounced off the wall. Usually he knows when he gets them. It was weird to watch him not know.
Chris
I heard. I saw that. That was like, the fastest in his career he's ever run from first to second. Like, they can actually track all this stuff now. And he was just so panicked that.
Mike
He ran, which is saying something because that guy can no longer move. It's crazy to watch this person who was like the peak of athleticism.
Stugotz
No, he was never a good runner. Get out of here. Not gonna pretend he was ever. No, no, no, no.
Mike
I'm not saying he was fast, but he was an athlete, and now he cannot move. It's similar to watching Pujos at the end where it was like, oh, he could run a little at the beginning of his career, and by the end he was in cement. But to have John Carlos Stanton this way, seemingly miss a ball like that. He normally knows that ball's going 500ft. It was so bizarre to see it end that way.
Stugotz
Is it reckless to say he seemed very drunk in. In that video where he was talking? And then I think, do you smell what Giancarlo's cooking? The follow up question to that is, how did he get so drunk so quickly after the game? Like, he's a big dude. Like, how. How much could he have had that he was like that, that quick?
Chris
I like to think he's probably not drinking a ton during season.
Stugotz
Ah, so like 1/2 a beer and he's like.
Chris
He's there, hasn't eaten much.
Dan Le Batard
Can you guys tell me, because I did not see how the Dodgers celebrated. The Dodgers have made this round 13 consecutive.
Stugotz
They can't celebrate them. I will say they can't celebrate that round at all. If you're the Dodgers, you cannot be celebrating celebrating the wild card round. In fact, you shouldn't be playing in the wild card round. That's a story for another day. Sorry, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
I didn't see how they celebrated. I did see there was a difference, though. The Tigers really celebrated getting past Cleveland, at least in part because of how much relief they had. Because it was the most historic collapse in the history of baseball that Detroit allowed Cleveland, a Cleveland team that's not that good, to catch up to them. So I assume there was a good deal of relief in being able to finally get past Cleveland, because Cleveland spent the last three weeks of the season kicking Detroit's ass and. And putting on them, a special kind of misery. But the Yankees did not celebrate the way Detroit did. On the field it was a more muted celebration Even though for 20 years they haven't actually been able to get past the Red Sox in the postseason, which represents a total change from all of baseball history when it comes to the Yankees and Red Sox.
Mike
The Dodgers was similar in that it wasn't a huge celebration on the field, but afterward a ton of champagne. The. The photos and the videos coming out of that of S.H. otani and everybody else, they were celebrating and that was beating the Reds.
Chris
And in their defense they do have a couple days off. Now we can argue about like I think we talked the other day about like the disadvantages for the teams that had to skip this round because they're going to be rust versus rest kind of thing. And I heard that they all had scrimmages because everyone's worried about having too much time off. So all the teams that were off had scrimmages, intramural scrimmages.
Dan Le Batard
So good stuff you've got in the buys. Among the buys, I believe the only team that has. Are you guys laughing because Chris petered out there? Again, you guys are just laughing at him because he didn't close that with the dismount that you guys.
Chris
I thought I brought a helpful nugget there with the intramural games and the rest versus Russ.
Dan Le Batard
The teams with the buys don't have a great deal of national interest even though I'm interested in them. You've got Brewers, Blue Jays and Mariners. The only national interest you're going to find is in the Phillies with the buy. But I don't. I think that you need the Dodgers and the Yankees to advance there to capture the imagination.
Stugotz
We had that last year. Like yeah, it's. I mean I guess maybe for like the, you know, common not really paying attention to baseball fan. You would want the Dodgers and the Yankees. But we had that last year and it didn't do like world breaking numbers.
Mike
Regardless, the Phillies are the team I think that enter in terms of entertainment value and giving people something different. Like obviously the Yankees are always going to be that powerhouse that attracts viewers. But I think if you ended up with Phillies, Yankees or. Or really any combination to know you have Schwarber who put on that show in the all star Game, Bryce Harper, like the name recognition is there with that team and they would have beaten the Dodgers to advance which would give you that storyline.
Dan Le Batard
It's super strange to see because Phillies, Dodgers is great, but it's super strange to see them both behind the brewers. To see both the Phillies and the Dodgers have to bend a knee to the Brewers. And I want to talk for a second because we skipped past this when it happened because it was the late game because the Reds were not a match for the Dodgers. Didn't make it interesting. The Dodgers could have and should have lost last year to the Padres in one of these short series because of how random baseball is. But what Shohei Ohtani did, did in the first at bat of that series where Hunter green is throwing 101 miles an hour and Ohtani's turning on it and sending it out of the park at 118 miles an hour. And it was his second most impressive home run of that game. He's doing stuff in the postseason that Judge has not yet done. I thought that the Yankees had a real good chance, even though the Red Sox are injured, of succumbing to baseball because for the last few post seasons they hit a lot of home runs during the regular season. And then they get to the postseason and the home runs go quiet. And they go quiet even if they're playing in Yankee Stadium where they have that favorable porch. Aaron Judge is getting two hits a game, but they're not home runs singles.
Chris
Right.
Mike
And last night he was over 3. Like in the, in the deciding game. Ultimately, they made history last night as the first wild card team to lose game one and come back and ultimately win that three game series. But Judge didn't have a ton to do with that.
Stugotz
I don't think anyone expected Aaron Judge to be what people have expected Shohei Ohtani to be.
Dan Le Batard
How do you mean?
Stugotz
I don't think anyone thought that Aaron Judge was going to be the greatest baseball player of all time, which is the standard that Shohei Ohtani to say he's never done what Shohei has done. I don't think anyone ever thought outside of New York where they just assume everyone is going to be the greatest thing ever. I don't think that was the expectation for Aaron Judge.
Dan Le Batard
No. But once they get to the postseason, Aaron Judge is now carrying around that he has not carried that team in the postseason. Like even, even stug was down here last year saying show, hey, show me something in the playoffs. And he's doing it like he's doing the same things in the playoffs that he did during the regular season. Aaron Judge has not. Aaron Judge. What are Aaron Judge's power numbers in the postseason? Go ahead and look it up for me because he's carrying around the burden of hey, Aaron, when are you going to show us power in a postseason? Because you're an absurd baseball player and you just had one of the most absurd offensive seasons I've ever seen, either steroid division or non steroid division. The fact that Aaron Judge hit for power and hit for average this year, when no one's hitting for average.
Mike
Aaron Judge's career OPS in the regular season is 1028. In the postseason, it is 700. It is a giant drop off in terms of his slugging percentage, and it has weighed on them for years. Giancarlo Stanton is the reason that they made that run to the World Series last year. We learned this on the pitch clock this week. He's fourth in Yankees franchise history in rbi. Giancarlo Stanton, Yankees franchise history. It's nuts.
Chris
A bit of a cheap player that he's been because of the extended playoffs now, but yes, of course it is.
Stugotz
No, in all time, in.
Mike
In playoff history, in rbi, all time Yankees postseason history.
Dan Le Batard
Postseason, they play more playoff games. That's part of the reason. But how many home runs has Judge hit in the postseason?
Mike
He has. He has hit 16 home runs. That's in 61 games. So those home runs are there, but not at the rate that you see in the regular season. And it's just a.212 career batting average in the post season. So, look, I mean, this year he's off to a better start and the hope for him would be that moving forward it would be better. But I mean, look, in 2024, he hit.184 and had a slugging percentage of.408. In the postseason, he was not dominant by any means. They made it there in spite of him in some ways.
Dan Le Batard
Billy, how do you feel about the fact that Jazz Chisholm and Miguel Rojas and Luis Arias, that all of these former Marlins are all over your. Your postseason? Do you have any feelings about that?
Stugotz
No, not. I'm. I'm not like, not. I don't feel bad that they're there. I'm happy for Jazz that he's there.
Chris
I'm rooting for Jazz.
Stugotz
You know, Rojas honestly seemed like a pain in the ass at the end, if we're gonna be honest. He was blocking everybody on Twitter. He was picking fights with people. Like, good for him, I guess.
Chris
But him, I like, say, how is.
Stugotz
He still in there? I'm not crying over spilled milk on that one.
Chris
How is he making that roster still? That roster is so good. How is he still making.
Stugotz
He had a good season to be honest with you. Like, he's a very serviceable. I was. I thought he's a starter on the Marlins and probably nowhere else.
Chris
Wait, he starts for them?
Stugotz
Yeah. I mean, he plays a ton of games for the Dodgers. I was wrong on that. Like, he's a serviceable piece on the Dodgers. That's crazy.
Dan Le Batard
Also crazy. Roy got a glove from Apple the same way that Michelle Beetle did.
Jeremy
No, you did.
Stugotz
Your name's on the glove.
Dan Le Batard
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Date: October 3, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
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This lively episode centers on sports, pop-culture, and a heavy dose of Miami-flavored banter. Michelle Beadle joins Dan, Stugotz, and the crew for a freewheeling hour, touching on everything from wild field stormings and NBA storylines to honest relationship talk, WNBA leadership drama, phone etiquette dilemmas, milestone birthdays, and the quirks of postseason baseball.
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Michelle Beadle’s signature blend of humor, sports insight, and irreverence fits perfectly with Dan and Stugotz’s looseness and honesty. From frank WNBA criticism to phone etiquette and birthday philosophies, this episode is quintessential “Le Batard Show”: smart, vulnerable, and unafraid to say what others won’t.
Memorable moment: Beadle’s “horrible advice” goes off the rails, generating belly laughs and the title of the episode.
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Expect rapid-fire banter, surprising vulnerability, offbeat segments, and the chemistry that makes the Dan Le Batard show a singular voice in sports and culture podcasting.