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Nick Wright
I do want to play the game of people in sports who look like they would just dominate a Renaissance festival. I do want to play that game.
Jessica
Here in honor of nick.
Nick Wright
Yeah, Mike McCarthy's walking around with a turkey leg for sure.
Stugotz
What about new Jags coach Liam Cohen? Yeah, I think he would crush one.
Mike Ryan
Yes, Super Eager. What about Chris Cody?
Nick Wright
Oh, that's terrible. That's good.
Jessica
Good.
Stugotz
That's terrible.
Nick Wright
That is the voice, disembodied voice of Nick Wright. I will say before he came on, I don't like what's happening, not on this show and not in America. To. To Nick Wright, somebody. I admire his gift. I admire his grift. He is somebody really doing this job well. And when he sat down, you're. You spit, yes, sad room. And then said of Nick Wright, you said punchable face. Well, he does punch punchable face. And I think this is happening now to you, Nick, and I think you enjoy it, but I think it's dangerous where you have my producers in the other room. People who should not have opinions about these things are listening to you talk about the Chiefs and they're getting very mad at who you are.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, yeah. Losers and whiners. Sorry, guys. I mean, and you said sad room. We're doing a renovation here, pal. I apologize. We're getting it all together and I have to, you know, I'm trying to be ready for these media appearances, but I also, you know, work smarter, not harder. Do we want to fill up the wall when obviously in 10 days we're going to have more champs newspapers to hang. So let's leave the space empty so we can prepare for that. So here's the deal. Everyone's been wrong, I've been right. And now they're whiny babies calling the manager, saying, it's unfair, guys, and they should be mortified. And Dan, as someone who cares about the health of sports media, you should carry this torch with me because we are all being led down this path. Once upon a time, we were the tastemakers. We dictated the conversation. Now, disembodied fake people like Dove Kleiman and ML Football dictate the conversation. And lazy charlatans with seven figure jobs are like, well, the Internet's talking about it. It must be the story. And so instead of recognizing we are watching the greatest run by the greatest team in the greatest league in the history of professional football, we are talking about Cleat Blakeman, we are talking about. About Will Anderson. We knew, man. I'm old enough to remember crying about the refs after the game was loser behavior, not universally applauded. Someone finally said it. And here's the other thing, you know, brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Gambling's legal now, America. If the games are rigged, I hope you've made a fortune because all the idiots this is their Twitter Timeline. It's rigged for ratings. All. Never watch again. It's rigged for the Chiefs. Can't wait till the Eagles beat them. Those seem like contradictory thoughts to me.
Nick Wright
I love your rage. I love your passion. I also find it really amusing that you would fight the Internet on sports. Debate has gotten kind of cruel, and we eviscerate people when they're the third best instead of the best. And what you've got is the best, and people are discrediting the best. And the emotional fan in you is pissed off on behalf of. This is the culture you created, Nick.
Mike Ryan
I created.
Nick Wright
You were in the middle of it, and you're. You're.
Mike Ryan
You're.
Nick Wright
You're responsible for elevating the Flames on this entire game.
Mike Ryan
Oh, okay. Nonsense. So here's nonsense. I. Listen that. I don't. I. I'm not a crusher. I am an elevator. My. You said for years, what was the thing I was known for? I didn't say somebody sucked. I said somebody's the greatest. My. My. My hottest take ever that I was known for is this guy's awesome.
Nick Wright
Well, and somehow that was kind of stugots. Do you know what that is?
Jessica
Not doing it.
Nick Wright
Well, no, but do you know what that take is? Stugots. Because stugots would fall on the other side of this. And I don't want to go down a rabbit hole here, but Nick Wright thinks LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan.
Jessica
He's mean. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Okay. Yeah, listen. No, I get it. The. I. I understand that there is some nostalgia and some sentimentality involved in Michael Jordan, and it's never going to move. I get it. I don't even actually care to have that argument because that argument has been won and the cement is dry on it, and people are going to look back and be like, I can't believe that was a debate. I don't. That's not what I. That's not even the point I was trying to make. Point I was trying to make is this. We do. I do think sports media actually, Dan, has gotten. We have overcorrected. Okay? So once upon a time, back in the day, before my time, before talk sports and stuff, it was just columnists. Some of that stuff was outright cruel, and guys were really eviscerated. They were either heroes or the worst villains. I don't need you to give you a history lesson. Of all people, you know the history of sports media. And then my generation, the millennials, got a foothold and it was, hey, let's add some nuance. Hey, Quarterback wins. That's not really a thing. Let's be smarter. And that was all really good. And now we've gone too far. And now Justin Herbert can throw more interceptions in a playoff game than he did all season. And before any takes have been given, it is preemptive, premature defending of takes that haven't even happened. Whoa, let's not kill Justin Herbert. Lamar Jackson can win more MVPs than if Aaron Rodgers retires. Everyone else active in the NFL combined. And he can have two turnovers in the first half. And people be like, guys, he came really close though. He did. He came close. Josh Allen two years in a row can have the ball in his hands down three with with Mahomes on the sideline, nothing he can do. And those two years come away with zero total points. And the the first take topic is do you feel bad for him? Guys, here's the deal. Everyone's always understood it. Almost every little boy in America growing up wanted to be a pro athlete one day. You know why? Dope job, super rich women or people love you. Fame, fortune, very few, a lot of time off. One of the downsides, one of the only downsides. You fail on the biggest stage, you're gonna get criticized a bit more than the guy who's, who's, you know, doing your taxes or working at ups. Everyone understood it. Now the expectation is can't we just appreciate they're all doing their best? Can't we? We got. We got. Orlovsky is so comfortable criticizing people in his current profession, sports media, and would never dare criticize people in his previous profession, NFL quarterbacks. We've gone too far. So if I have to add some balance to the universe, so be it.
Nick Wright
That is such a great point. On our Lovesky. I hadn't considered wait, but is Nick.
Jessica
Taking credit for nuance? I mean, I just gave him credit.
Nick Wright
For all hot takery. I just gave him credit for all. For all of it. For being.
Mike Ryan
You want to stay on the Orlovsky point, I'm okay with it. Everyone likes Dan. I'm sure he's nice but hey man, keep that same energy. Like it's so amazing. There's so much courage to criticize folks who do what he currently does and such as said to Shannon on television, it's not my job to criticize a quarterback who is better than me. Huh, really? Well then I hope you have a lot of Will Levis topics coming because.
Nick Wright
What he's saying there, I had not noticed and now that he mentions it isn't very Surprising, because of course, the athletes would come into the media space and then all of a sudden start bullying the media. Of course they are. Of course. Arlovsky is very popular. His information is very good. But he's sharp.
Mike Ryan
And everyone that I know that I don't know him and everyone that I know that knows him adores him, is a great dude. And the little snippets we get of his family life, he really seems like an awesome father and husband. Great guy. I just. There is. There. There is to me, a. If you're just going to be Mr. Positivity about everything, and I'm not saying that's Dan necessarily, so be it. But there is, to me, a hypocrisy of, oh, there are some sacred cows here, but I will. But not that I'll stay away from. That's all. And as the kids say on Twitter, the noticers are noticing. And maybe I'm just noticing.
Nick Wright
Well, one of the things I admire about you is I don't believe you have any sacred cows in this business. You're about telling people whatever it is that you think. And you're not too concerned with how any of that lands you right now are enjoying the sports moment of a lifetime. Right. That you have this team being this dominant and you're insisting from coast to coast that people respect it properly while they're not. While the standard birth of we criticize everything, we blame everything is very gentle to Josh Allen. And now America's rooting against your team.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. And so the. Listen, the thing you said on the front end, it is. I mean, I. I could not be more blessed than to be a kid from Kansas City who I. Somebody asked me yesterday, do I, you know, do I miss doing talk radio in Kansas City? And I said in a kind of. Maybe more vulnerable than I should have been. I was like, well, I maybe have never been as happy as I was when I was doing talk radio in my hometown dozen years ago, or at this point, 15 years ago, I guess. But the blessing of what the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes have given me personally is they have allowed, essentially me to pursue my highest career ambitions while still just doing a local Kansas City talk show. Cause I don't know if you watch a lot of First Things first, but there's a lot of Chiefs talk on it because they're the team. And so that is a huge blessing. Mike, you know, the fact that before last season, I get the never a doubt tattoo, and then Patrick Mahomes, who almost never tweets 60 minutes after winning Super Bowl MVP, sends his first tweet of the playoffs and it's three words, never a doubt. With him holding the trophies. Yeah, that's one of the dopest things that could you could happen in a sports movie, much less in real life. And so I should be happier about those things. I am frustrated because the only thing this compares to in my opinion as far as this level of dominance over a seven year stretch is the Bulls in the 90s. And not only were the Bulls in the 90s universally beloved, they are retroactively still a sacred beloved. They are. You mentioned it to Stigots and he gets even though he's a Knicks fan, his eyes well up with emotion. Thinking about Bob Costas and John Tash in the good old days.
Nick Wright
Yeah, I mean, I mean too, I.
Jessica
Mean honor to lose to that team. It was.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. And so. Right. And so and now we are getting it in a sport where it shouldn't be able to exist. Single elimination, salary cap, all of it. And during over the course of the year it was a denial that was frustrating to me. And then the moment it became undeniable, it was a rigged game. And there are a lot, a lot of uncomfortable equivalent or similarities to the run up to the 2020 presidential election. This guy has no chance. This guy is inept. This guy can't win. This is going to be a rout. I lost it direct and that's what I heard all year with the Chiefs. Fraudulent team getting lucky. Too many one score games. Can't score more than 30. Can't blow anyone out. Rigged. Okay, fine. You're just wrong.
Jessica
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Chris Cody
LeBatard I don't like smutty either.
Mike Ryan
Stugats women stay Home in the kitchen where they belong.
Chris Cody
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Billy Gill
Nick, I want to ask you Mahomes, even though, you know, you said people are accusing of being rigged or the rest are in the tank form, I think the general consensus around Mahomes is excellent. And damn it, I hate that he wins all the time. Right. Would you agree that the opposition, they don't say he's not that good. They say no.
Mike Ryan
That they say yes. About. About him Specific. Yes. Him specifically. Absolutely. Go ahead.
Billy Gill
And so it reminds me of a lot of what people said about Jordan and a lot of what people said about Brady. But as try as I might to remember, I don't remember anyone saying that about LeBron. So my question to you isn't whether LeBron is or isn't. That's to me that can't be answered.
Mike Ryan
But why is that?
Billy Gill
Why do you think LeBron never got that kind of fear respect among the masses that those three names illicit?
Mike Ryan
Oh, well, I think that there was something that LeBron was working against as far as from the masses that neither Brady nor Jordan had to work against, which is two die hard fan bases who were deeply invested in him not being considered as great as he was. Because you had Jordan fans and Kobe fans who it was a part of their individual identity that needed LeBron to not be LeBron. I don't think there was that with, I don't think Bird and Magic fans. I think they looked at it not like different eras, but like we had the 80s, this guy's having the 90s. And it was to me so universally accepted in the 90s. I mean, the guy. One of the reasons I hate the count, the ring stuff is Jordan retired after three and they put on the statue the greatest there ever was, the greatest there ever will be. You know, but if 30 years ago people were like, I don't care that Magic has two more rings and Russell has eight more, this guy and Cream's got three more, this guy's better. And they were able to do that. Brady, Brady was able to be a juggernaut underdog, which is what made him so unique. And the other thing with Brady was that people have kind of change, like forgotten Brady Manning was a legitimate and fair debate for 15 years. People say, oh my God, you know, Patrick's doing to Josh what Tom did to Peyton. That's not true. Tom Brady beat Peyton Manning in the playoffs twice, ever. And then lost their final three matchups. Peyton Manning versus Tom Brady in the playoffs is 32 Peyton. So the way that story went was, man, this kid is clutch. The defense is amazing. What a winner from 0104. Then a decade of not winning, of coming close, but not winning. Peyton finally got over the hump. Peyton finally got to another Super Bowl. Peyton goes to Denver, clips the Patriots in the playoffs. It's like, oh, my goodness, this is flipping again back towards Peyton. And then there is the second patriots run. 14, 16, 18. And then the cementing moment. Tom in 20 beating Patrick. And now he is seven. And now it's like, oh, he was always the greatest. So those were all. Those were very different stories than the one Patrick is having right now.
Stugotz
I just imagine you've been talking like that for four straight.
Nick Wright
It's like an asylum. I feel like I'm in a prison.
Dan LeBatard
Jesus Christ.
Nick Wright
It's just Chiefs talk. Chiefs talk. He's got every chief's opinion. He's right about everything. You're all wrong.
Dan LeBatard
Haven't stopped talking.
Chris Cody
Buy a ring light already.
Mike Ryan
I'm kind of impressed by it.
Jessica
Install lights.
Nick Wright
Our audience, like, six minutes ago is like, oh, my God, it's a speed bag to the face of sleep.
Dan LeBatard
Twice.
Billy Gill
Echo, echo, echo.
Mike Ryan
Okay, I forgot to turn the light on. You could have told me beforehand, first of all.
Nick Wright
Well, now it's an even more punchable face. And you know that you're leaning into all of this stuff. You're fighting America. You're. You're enjoying the holy hell out of just the unbelievable stupidity of Notre Dame fans.
Mike Ryan
Say she almost fell asleep.
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
Mike Ryan
On a second here. Why? That was compelling.
Dan LeBatard
So compelling. You. As long as you think that people are saying the chief's dynasty is more annoying than the Patriots dynasty because they've just been listening to you do that rambling bit all season long. And rambling.
Mike Ryan
They're laden. Also no out here. Dropp. Making you guys talk about what the.
Dan LeBatard
Internet trolls are talking. You can ignore the Internet trolls that are setting the quote unquote Internet discourse about all this.
Mike Ryan
I can. Can I ignore Adam Schefter's Adam Schefter and everyone else in the mainstream media? I can't do that.
Dan LeBatard
You could just talk about this. Just talk about this for your whole show. You're probably doing it anyways.
Mike Ryan
Okay. All right. Jessica, I've always liked you from afar, but our relationships now on the rocks. I always thought you were a really excellent addition to this team. I don't know why you're coming after me. I picked your stupid team to win the national championship, lost 2600 bucks those frauds.
Dan LeBatard
You don't have a 17 player half point underdogs. Why would you.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I know. Listen, big risk, big reward. That's what I'm saying. I'm not. I'm not in these small gains. If I want small gains, I buy Nvidia. I guess that's probably a bad one to this week. But in general, I'm a gambler. You are like, oh, cash out, hedge your bets. I'm a God dog gambler, man.
Nick Wright
Jessica, you speak for the audience. You speak for America.
Mike Ryan
Speaks for the America. I'm beloved.
Nick Wright
Nick, I'm your. I'm your. I'm your biggest fan. You do not have a bigger fan of like doing everything right now in sports media exactly the right way. And I get genuine joy from getting to watch you live what we live of 2010 through 2014, which is. Are you kidding me? The local team is going to be the best thing. Everyone in the country is going to want to fight with it. And I get to do a local sports radio show. You're probably doing your TV show, leaving, and you've got a thousand other things that you wanted to say.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely.
Jessica
That's.
Mike Ryan
I did a 90 minute podcast yesterday and I didn't get to the Eagles game.
Jessica
Oh, boy.
Mike Ryan
I mean, yeah. So you agree?
Dan LeBatard
We all believe you, by the way.
Jessica
Are you okay?
Mike Ryan
I mean, I mean, yeah, I'm okay. Gosh darn it, man. I'll be honest.
Nick Wright
Yeah, I'm.
Mike Ryan
I was ready for a lot of, like, I know the room, I know this crew. Obviously, I've always felt deep down a mean. Probably doesn't like me. That was a nice softball LeBron question he threw me. I don't blame him for that. It's fine. You know, I've had, you know, I'm. I. Cody knows that. He's my second favorite member of the Cody family and I kind of made fun of him to start. So this. And Mike Ryan's not there to defend me, but Jessica off the top rope for no reason while I'm out here dropping knowledge seems unnecessary. Where's and where's juju? Where, where, where, where's my guy?
Nick Wright
Like, I will say that Jessica spoke for Billy. Billy didn't speak up.
Chris Cody
Billy?
Nick Wright
Yeah. Billy didn't guess for the Super Bowl.
Dan LeBatard
Billy, did you agree with what Jessica said, though?
Chris Cody
Can I be honest with you, Nick? I like you. I like you. You're very nice. I met him when we did the live show in New York. He said hi. Billy shook my hand. I was like, how the hell does this guy know who I was? It was a very pleasant exchange. I don't know what the hell you were talking about.
Nick Wright
Why does it.
Amin Elhassan
God.
Chris Cody
For a while you lost me and then I was like, I really got to get.
Nick Wright
Why does this show hate fact laden energy? That's a great question.
Jessica
See, we hate. Long answer.
Nick Wright
That's a great question.
Mike Ryan
Why does this show hate bad Ally.
Nick Wright
You know what? You're right. You're so right. All of your. So, Nick, we've got like, we've got the punchable face.
Chris Cody
You also like, by the way, you're competing against Paul Rudd and the guy from Modern Family. Stone Street. Yeah. For being like the, the, the Chiefs fan. Like, you know, you're already coming at us with a different disadvantage.
Nick Wright
Stone street, my friend. Is that what you just did?
Jessica
He did.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, of course. What do you mean, Nick? We're all just.
Dan LeBatard
We're all just. We're all fans of other AFC teams that just keep losing to the Chiefs every year.
Mike Ryan
Who's your AFC team?
Dan LeBatard
I'm a Steelers fan. And we are so.
Mike Ryan
We are God. Oh, and that's another one. Steelers legacy. Hey, at least they have the greatest six year stretch. Football for another 10 days. About to clip that one too. We're coming for everyone's records. You brought up Jordan. This old. This is really going to stick to stugon Michael Jordan has been able to own. When you say three Pete, you think of Jordan. That's got 10 more days, buddy. That. That's not going to be his anymore. They're coming for everyone's records. Everyone's hallowed ground. And you know what? I'm going to go even older school. Where's Greg Cody when you need him? Throw out the Curse of the Bambino and the Babe Ruth trade. Nobody cares about this but me. Everyone's like, oh, poor Buffalo. Here's a, Here's a pro tip, sports fans. Don't trade someone the greatest player ever. The Bills traded the Chiefs Mahomes. And now Mahomes kills him every year and everyone cries for him. No one cried for the Red sox in the 20s. Ruth always beats us. You shouldn't have sold him so you could put on a play that. That's. That happened in football. The bill said Tyrod Taylor and Nate Peterman. And they're like, let's run it back one more year. And they traded the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes. And now Mahomes sends him home every year. That's how sports are supposed to go. Fatal mistakes should be fatal. The right Team is winning and sorry, Bills fans, good people in western New York. I get it, but you did this to yourselves.
Jessica
I think of Riley when I think of 3 Pete. And by the way, Jordan did it not once, but twice. I mean, punt.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, yeah. Believe it or not, Stugats, that was a fact that I had. I did know he did it twice. Quit in the middle. And is it really a three peat if you get clipped in the middle by the magic? But that season doesn't count. But we don't want to talk about that. No, no, no, no, no.
Billy Gill
Why did you give like a shout out to the people of western New York?
Jessica
They're great.
Nick Wright
They're great fans.
Billy Gill
The great people. No, he said the great people.
Jessica
You have to do that.
Mike Ryan
Great people of western New York.
Dan LeBatard
If Greg Cody, he would tell you, you still don't have a perfect season, though, punk.
Mike Ryan
Say, oh, great. No, he's right. We don't have a perfect season yet. Yeah, I mean, that's.
Dan LeBatard
He got.
Mike Ryan
We're going in order. We're speed running everything and you know, we're on a. We've been on some side quests and we'll get the perfect season at some point this year. They could have done it and they said, you know, what if we beat Buffalo in the regular season, probably a little harder to beat them in the playoffs. So they sacrifice what would have obviously been a perfect regular season to have a better chance at the three peat. But in a future year when they're not going for a historic championship, they'll go for the perfect season. But that'll come. You know, that'll come. So. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not worried about that. I don't know if you have more questions.
Nick Wright
I do. I wanted to know if there were any other sacred cows that you wished to go after here before you get out of here. And I wanted to through Stugatz. I don't know if Stugatz knows this Nick Wright because he's enjoying so much being public enemy number one as a Chiefs fan, making arguments on behalf of Chiefs fans.
Stugotz
He has number three behind Paul Rudd.
Mike Ryan
And Eric Stone Street.
Nick Wright
Is he number three?
Chris Cody
If Riggle's in there.
Nick Wright
What. Number four. What number are you? What number are you?
Mike Ryan
Hold on, hold on. Can I. Can I make this something very, very clear?
Billy Gill
That's number one.
Chris Cody
That's.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. No. So listen, though. Riggle and Rudd and Stone street, who I adore, you know, again, good friends, good Kansas City, and they're from the Kansas side. That's okay. They Are the number one Chiefs. The. If you say Chiefs fan, Family Feud style, and people are like, who gets the votes? Taylor's. Taylor wins. Number two is me, Jason Sudeikis.
Jessica
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
No.
Nick Wright
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
No. Those guys are more famous than me, but they are not more associated with the Chiefs than me. Me. These are. Brad Pitt's a Chiefs fan. He's more famous than all of them. But the. Yeah. So like. And again, some of those Family Feud answers would be, I don't know the guy's name. He's got a big nose and a punchable face. The font, that's me they're talking about. Like. So that's. That's.
Nick Wright
That's. I go. I'd go a step further, though. I'd put you number one on voice for the team.
Billy Gill
Rasheed Wallace.
Nick Wright
Just being able to get like the feeling of. Of regional pride that comes from being a fan on behalf of the team who will then make arguments on behalf of the team.
Jessica
Are you saying this because we couldn't get the other ones on the show?
Nick Wright
I'm promising you that those people don't get to support their team from the same place that Nick Wright gets to support this one.
Mike Ryan
If you're saying that I'm the Baghdad Bob of the Kansas City Chiefs. That's correct. Except I'm on the right side of the war. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's definitely.
Chris Cody
Doesn't everyone think they're on the right side of the war, though? Like, it's hard to put your life on the line.
Jessica
Why would you fight on the wrong side?
Chris Cody
Yeah, exactly.
Jessica
Right.
Chris Cody
Knowingly.
Mike Ryan
But. But luckily in sports, Billy, there's an official scorecard and the. The people on the right side get to hoist a trophy at the end of it.
Chris Cody
Sometimes you realize things weren't as right as we thought they were.
Dan LeBatard
Caitlin Clark.
Mike Ryan
Billy, I listened to your. Listen, Billy, I. You guys, here's the thing. I listened six years ago when you gave a very off the cuff, eloquent Cuban history dissertation on sports radio. I know how erudite and learned you are, but don't come at me about being on the wrong this war, because I'm not. I'm not.
Dan LeBatard
He's also very recalcitrant. Nick, we can use big words here too.
Chris Cody
I know.
Mike Ryan
Oh, because I said erudite. I was trying to compliment Billy Gill. Jessica, we got. You know what? Dan knows this. I have a media rivals list. You're on it now.
Nick Wright
Oh, no.
Jessica
Oh, wow. I want the entire list.
Mike Ryan
She had never been eligible because she's so much younger than me. But I'm now elevating her because it's. This is an outfit.
Chris Cody
That's a compliment.
Jessica
It sure is.
Mike Ryan
The arrival. It is.
Nick Wright
But wait a minute. You just promoted her, Thompson.
Jessica
A huge promotion.
Nick Wright
Promotion for Jessica. You just rewarded her by making her your rival. You're the one with the punchable face.
Mike Ryan
That's true, but it'll just make her all the more fun to vanquish. There you die.
Jessica
Am I on it now?
Mike Ryan
I mean, no, no, listen, St. Gods, you are. You are living. Like, sometimes people live lives. And you're like, man, I. That's. That path could have been mine. And every time I watch you, I'm like, man, if I just grew up in a different part of the country and suffered a minor head injury, that would have been the life I'm living.
Jessica
Well, thank you, Nick.
Mike Ryan
No problem.
Amin Elhassan
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Jessica
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Chris Cody
Don LeBatard go pee pee.
Nick Wright
Stugats.
Mike Ryan
Go pee pee.
Chris Cody
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Nick Wright
Very happy for you legitimately, but the question that I was asking you on the way out because I don't know how Stugots feels about this because he likes and respects our show. Do you get hurt at all that he appears but with to give his chief's takes to Dan Patrick first and to Colin Cowherd first. And that we are the bronze medalist on his world tour of. Listen to me yammer.
Jessica
Yes, of course I'm upset by it, Nick. Remember the people who got you to where it is that you're at right now. Now, you probably think you got there by yourself. But no, this show helped you, okay? This show helped you.
Mike Ryan
We promoted it.
Nick Wright
I don't think that's true at all. We love you.
Jessica
And you gotta stay loyal to the show, Nick. You gotta stay loyal to this show. This show.
Mike Ryan
First.
Jessica
First.
Mike Ryan
Stu Gotts. Here's the thing. First of all, I. No one really, and Dan won't accept it, has any idea how much this show helped me. Because I've told this story and I will tell it again. When I was auditioning for FS1 eight years ago, my first time on the air, I made a Cam Newton point, oddly, about the officials that Dan then referenced and played when you guys were at the espn. It was remarkable and I really think that helped me. So. No, no, no. This show has helped me immensely. However, what Stugance does not know because Stugots, I assume, was in a, you know, somewhat drunken stupor. I did do this show first. I did it during the game. During the game. I came on this show. I broke all of my rules of no tweeting, no media chiefs games. And I gotta tell you.
Jessica
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
When nine 90 minutes after doing the show, the Bills led for the first time all game.
Stugotz
How'd that feel?
Mike Ryan
I was furious. And I was on tilt and I was blaming you guys.
Nick Wright
Yes.
Mike Ryan
So I Did your show and I apologize.
Jessica
I just wasn't here.
Nick Wright
That's fine.
Jessica
Fair.
Nick Wright
Fair point. And when you say a blame though, then should we get credit because we're now taking credit for your things. So. So if you're.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, you guys. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Here's. Here's a cool idea. Someone in that room, instead of rooting for a losing football teams, root for the team that wins every Super Bowl. No one's going to be like, oh, you were a die hard Dolphins fan. That doesn't exist. No one will blame you. So, yeah, feel free to jump on right now's the time. Because right now they're so hated right now. It's a cool pivot to be like, you know what? What? I like the Chiefs. I think you got. I think everyone else is a bunch of whiny babies. We invite you, but that invitation expires 6:00pm a week from Sunday because post three Pete bandwagon clothes.
Nick Wright
Okay.
Jessica
How do we let you know? Do we send you a text like.
Nick Wright
He'S put some stakes on these picks. We got to make some picks now. Sticked against Kansas City the last couple of years. We don't allow him. We've forbidden him from talking about this team around here.
Jessica
That's why I wasn't there for the game.
Nick Wright
Good seeing you and congratulations. Thank you for the help. We'll talk to you soon.
Mike Ryan
Of course. Talk to you later. Love you guys.
Billy Gill
Bye, Willie. Collie Stein.
Stugotz
And if you do want to go to this super bowl game and man, it's going to be a doozy. Download the Game Time app, create an account. Use code dan for $20 off your first purchase terms apply. What time is it? I'll answer it myself. It's game time.
Nick Wright
Have you guys been thinking about people in sports who look like they would crush it at a Renaissance fair? Have you guys. I don't know if you guys have seen is it Ren Fair on Max that it's confusing show in that at the start I couldn't tell whether they were actors or whether it was just unusual people as you might find that were addicted to the Renaissance Fair. But we've got a look in mind here. I don't suspect we will have a lot of ethnicities at the Renaissance fair. Right. This will be a pink Chris Cody type of experience. They will all look like the new coach of the Jags, Liam Cohen.
Billy Gill
Ain't no brothers at the Renaissance fair. Is that what you're saying?
Nick Wright
I don't. I think so. I think visually it's all the Same game, right? Some form of. Are you playing the game in the other room?
Stugotz
I felt. I think I just won the game. Oh, I did. And I. I don't even have to say it to anyone back here. I said it to myself. I looked at a picture of him. It's him. Creed Humphrey, the center for the Chiefs. I mean, this. You're not going to beat it. Don't even try.
Jessica
Pretty good.
Stugotz
I'm a damn good nomination. But not as good as Creed Humphrey.
Billy Gill
Are we going across all sports or just football?
Stugotz
All sports.
Billy Gill
We're.
Nick Wright
We're doing all sports. And I. I do believe that the type, though, there's a thickness involved with the type.
Mike Ryan
Right.
Jessica
Some long hair helps. Right. An unkempt beard, like Clay Matthews.
Nick Wright
Clay Matthews is a little aggressive. Although he might be jousting over there. Behind the tomato throws. Right.
Stugotz
They have to look disheveled.
Chris Cody
Does it have to be sports?
Nick Wright
Why? What would you like to do? Why. Why would you like. I'm giving you all the role of sports out as the playground, but you want to go off the board.
Chris Cody
I was gonna say Jewel.
Nick Wright
Hmm.
Mike Ryan
Who will save your soul?
Nick Wright
How about Mike Glennon? How about old long necked Mike Glennon?
Dan LeBatard
How about Enya?
Billy Gill
Jewell's great band or just her?
Nick Wright
I could see Jewel I couldn't believe before the show, and this has happened the last couple of days where for some reason I'm leaving Stugatz and Stugatz is saying, that's a good idea. And so whenever Stugatz is saying that, I like to trail where it is that that's coming from. I usually catch the back end. And then I hear Billy talking about the idea of not divorces, but trial divorces. Obviously they're separations, but more formalized that there should be a stop between marriage and separation and trial separation and divorce, that there's a stage here.
Jessica
Trevor Lawrence.
Billy Gill
I kind of feel like separations already are a lot more formal than they need to be. Because like on forms, when you fill out forms, it says, are you married, single, single, divorced or separated? I'm like, you're asking me if I'm having marital problems. Is that what this question is?
Mike Ryan
Which is so weird.
Billy Gill
Why does a doctor care? Like, it doesn't matter.
Nick Wright
Right?
Stugotz
That's why you're losing your hair.
Dan LeBatard
I think it depends on, like. I think it's also like a. Whoa.
Stugotz
That's what a hypothetical doctor would say.
Mike Ryan
Right? You're right.
Stugotz
Hypothetical person.
Jessica
You're a good hypothetical doctor. Yes.
Chris Cody
What's this?
Nick Wright
Cough masks. Really? Amin was about to get started on something that was going to be legitimately good, and you guys just undercut him by going at his hairline.
Mike Ryan
I was.
Stugotz
Yes. Anning.
Mike Ryan
No.
Stugotz
I was playing the game of what?
Mike Ryan
The doctor.
Stugotz
Why the doctor?
Mike Ryan
Role playing.
Nick Wright
No, but you said. Did you not see what happened? Amin was about to get rolling. I mean, was about to take flight. Like, he was so excited.
Billy Gill
Upset stomach, sore ankle. There's so many headaches, migraines.
Chris Cody
Are you separated? Mm, check.
Mike Ryan
Yep.
Chris Cody
Sleep apnea.
Billy Gill
He went straight for the hair.
Nick Wright
I have never seen that happen in the history of our show. Except when Amin did Ninja Warrior and started running and was about to take flight.
Jessica
Which time.
Nick Wright
He was about to take flight. He had. I know, I know. My friend here. He was about to unspool a tapestry of complaints about. Why does this doctor need to know that I'm separated? This is none of his business. Like this is. He doesn't need to invade my marriage. You don't have to take that information, too. And he was about to take flight. And then Chris Cody's just staring at his airline. And I saw all of Amin's insecurities leak out in front of me.
Stugotz
I was honestly looking at myself in the mirror there, dude. I was like, man, I've had a stressful year.
Billy Gill
There's no mirror between me and you.
Stugotz
Got to see my reflection in this.
Nick Wright
The two of you. Listen to me. The two of you staring forehead to forehead with surface area for miles.
Mike Ryan
I.
Stugotz
Relax.
Nick Wright
Both of you capable of being in a barbershop quartet. Only because of the shape of your face combined with your hairline. That was a mirror you were looking into. You're always wearing a hat.
Stugotz
Zagaki. That's what I mean. I'm not throwing stones, man.
Dan LeBatard
You guys make fun of Chris's appearance all the time.
Stugotz
Zagak.
Billy Gill
So you're saying I should see myself at the Ren Faire?
Amin Elhassan
Hey, howdy, listener. Why don't you sit down here next to me? Let's have a fireside conversation. In the winter, this is all theater of the mind. Anyways. If the weather outside is a little chilly, let's warm up. Let's cozy up not just to each other, but also to that beautiful white can of Miller Lite. That's right. Make these moments even better with Miller Light, the great tasting light beer for people who love beer. A new year is a perfect time for friends, family, and great tasting light beer tastes like Miller Time. You know, as a football games get bigger. Everybody's talking about hosting parties. It's always difficult. Everyone's got an opinion. Why don't you just bring out a nice cooler of Miller Lites and make everybody happy? You could be on opposite sides of the big game, but you still know that you are. Brought together by Miller Time. Miller Lite is a great unifier. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. The original light beer. Beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite Great Taste 96 calories go to millerlight.com dan find delivery options near you or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell. Beer tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Stugotz
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode Title: Hour 1: Nick Wright Speaks For Longer Than Any Guest In Show History
Release Date: January 29, 2025
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, listeners are treated to an extended and spirited appearance by sports media personality Nick Wright. The episode delves deep into discussions about sports media dynamics, the dominance of the Kansas City Chiefs, and the evolving landscape of sports commentary. Hosted by Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, with regular contributors Mike Ryan and Jessica, the show offers a blend of insightful debate and humorous banter.
[02:11] Nick Wright:
"I do want to play the game of people in sports who look like they would just dominate a Renaissance festival."
Nick Wright kicks off his segment with a light-hearted game idea, setting the stage for his extensive discourse. His early remarks hint at his playful yet critical approach to sports personalities.
[03:19] Mike Ryan:
"Everyone's been wrong, I've been right. And now they're whiny babies calling the manager, saying, it's unfair..."
Mike Ryan expresses frustration with the current state of sports media, arguing that traditional voices are being overshadowed by newer, less substantial commentators. This sentiment resonates throughout the conversation, highlighting a tension between old-school sports journalism and modern media trends.
[05:36] Nick Wright:
"I love your rage. I love your passion. I also find it really amusing that you would fight the Internet on sports..."
[06:31] Nick Wright:
"You're responsible for elevating the Flames on this entire game."
Nick counters Mike’s criticisms by highlighting the increasing cruelty and evisceration in sports debates, emphasizing that constructive dialogue has been replaced by personal attacks and shallow commentary.
[09:53] Nick Wright:
"That is such a great point on our Lovesky. I hadn't considered..."
The conversation shifts to the dominance of the Kansas City Chiefs, with Nick Wright defending the team's achievements and critiquing the media's often unfair portrayal. He draws parallels to Michael Jordan's legacy, questioning why similar respect isn't afforded to current sports figures like Patrick Mahomes.
[12:11] Mike Ryan:
"We are watching the greatest run by the greatest team in the greatest league in the history of professional football..."
Mike reiterates his admiration for the Chiefs, comparing their seven-year dominance to the legendary Chicago Bulls’ era in the 1990s. He laments that the current sports media landscape doesn’t adequately celebrate such achievements.
[16:50] Mike Ryan:
"Why do you think LeBron never got that kind of fear respect among the masses that those three names illicit?"
The hosts engage in a nuanced discussion about why certain athletes like LeBron James haven’t been met with the same media narratives as legends like Jordan or Brady. They explore factors such as fan base dynamics and media storytelling that influence public perception.
[20:10] Stugotz:
"I just imagine you've been talking like that for four straight."
[20:13] Nick Wright:
"It's like an asylum. I feel like I'm in a prison."
Stugotz and Nick share a moment analyzing the repetitive nature of Nick’s critiques, blending humor with their critique of ongoing media conversations.
[26:43] Jessica:
"I think of Riley when I think of 3 Pete. And by the way, Jordan did it not once, but twice."
Jessica brings up historical sports anecdotes, intertwining them with the current discussion to provide depth and context.
[28:23] Stugotz:
"He has number three behind Paul Rudd."
[28:35] Chris Cody:
"That's number one."
[29:05] Jessica:
"Yeah."
The hosts engage in playful banter, ranking celebrities and sports figures humorously, which lightens the intense discussions and showcases their camaraderie.
[37:11] Jessica:
"How do we let you know? Do we send you a text like."
[37:25] Jessica:
"That's why I wasn't there for the game."
Towards the end of the episode, the conversation takes on a lighter tone with the hosts teasing each other about their roles and contributions to the show. This segment emphasizes the friendly dynamics among the hosts despite heated debates.
The episode concludes with Nick Wright addressing the impact of the show on his career and the mutual respect among the hosts. Despite the teasing and critiques, there's an underlying appreciation for each other's contributions to sports media.
[34:45] Jessica:
"Yes, of course I'm upset by it, Nick. Remember the people who got you to where it is that you're at right now."
[35:04] Jessica:
"First."
[35:04] Mike Ryan:
"First."
These final exchanges underscore the theme of mutual respect and the complex relationships within sports media, blending heartfelt acknowledgments with ongoing playful rivalry.
Nick Wright [05:36]:
"We are watching the greatest run by the greatest team in the greatest league in the history of professional football..."
Mike Ryan [16:50]:
"Why do you think LeBron never got that kind of fear respect among the masses that those three names illicit?"
Jessica [27:05]:
"Why did you give like a shout out to the people of western New York?"
Nick Wright [30:06]:
"That's the Baghdad Bob of the Kansas City Chiefs. Except I'm on the right side of the war."
Media Evolution: The hosts discuss how sports media has shifted from authoritative voices to a landscape dominated by quick takes and less substantial commentary.
Chiefs’ Dominance: A significant portion of the episode focuses on the Kansas City Chiefs' continued success and how it compares to past sports dynasties.
Respect and Critique: There's a thematic exploration of how legendary athletes are treated in media versus current stars, questioning inconsistencies in narratives.
Host Dynamics: The interplay between Dan, Stugotz, Mike, Jessica, and Nick highlights both camaraderie and competitive banter, offering listeners a mix of serious analysis and entertaining dialogue.
This episode serves as a compelling examination of contemporary sports media through the lens of passionate hosts and a notably verbose guest. Nick Wright's extensive participation underscores ongoing debates about media integrity, athlete legacy, and the evolving nature of sports commentary. For listeners unfamiliar with the show, this episode provides a snapshot of the vibrant discussions and playful interactions that characterize The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.