Hour 1: Nick Wright Takes a Shot (feat. Nick Wright)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: "Nick Wright Takes a Shot" (feat. Nick Wright)

Date: October 13, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a chaotic and hilarious debrief with FS1 host Nick Wright, fresh off a complicated (and now infamous) high-stakes bet with Dan Le Batard regarding the Kansas City Chiefs and Detroit Lions game. The crew dives into the haziness of the "white Corvette" bet, the difference between gambling for show and for real, and how shifting stakes create on-air comedy. The hour also covers athlete pain and trade-offs (Tiger Woods’ back), NFL and college football, and a NASCAR human interest story, all filtered through the panel's distinctive comedic and often self-deprecating style.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. The White Corvette Bet—Nick Wright vs. Dan Le Batard

(02:12–15:57)

• Confusion Over Bet Details:
  The crew tries to clarify the terms of a bet made between Dan and Nick on the Chiefs-Lions game. Dan sent Nick pictures of white Corvettes after the win, while Nick thought the bet was simply for $5,000.
  • Nick Wright: “It was very clear we were betting $5,000. And then... Le Batard... is sending me pictures of white Corvettes.” (03:13)
  • Dan LeBatard: “This Dan LeBatard off on the side texting you, 'I don't want a white Corvette,'... and then turns to a microphone and says Nick Wright has to take this car is unbelievable, even for Dan.” (06:07)
• Nick’s Gambling Seriousness:
  Nick emphasizes he bets seriously and is about to play in the biggest poker game of his life—he needs the $5k, not car jokes.
  • Nick Wright: “I gamble for real, guys... I am, as happenstance, by chance, in about nine hours, playing in what will likely be the largest poker game of my entire life…” (04:55)
• Ethics of the Bet:
  Nick balks at the idea of a “free roll,” where only he could lose.
  • Nick Wright: “What I won’t allow is for me to be free rolling somebody... I’m not gonna free roll you.” (09:45)
• Nick on the Chiefs’ Dominance:
  Nick takes victory laps not just on the bet but on the Chiefs defeating the Lions, demanding overdue respect for Kansas City.
  • Nick Wright: “‘Bend the damn knee.’ My God, you guys... The Chiefs are back. Dan, look for that car and I need that money.” (10:43, 12:38)
• Crew Banter on Delivery Methods:
  Greg Cody suggests $5,000 in pennies; the idea of tracing down Greg’s old white Corvette floats around.
  • Greg Cody: “How would you feel about that? 500,000 pennies arriving?” (14:18)
• Resolutions and Ongoing Bit:
  Nick says, “We can figure out the white Corvette thing moving forward. However, let’s see how tonight’s card game goes. If I win, you can distribute that five grand amongst the shipping container. If I lose, I’m gonna need it.” (15:04)

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2. Nick Wright on LeBron James’ Longevity

(12:40–14:10)

• Dan Presses Nick: After Nick recently claimed LeBron could be an All-Star at age 50, LeBron immediately misses a month for sciatica at age 40.
  • Dan LeBatard: “Just 48 hours after you said LeBron James could play at an all-star level at the age of 50, it was announced he is out for a month at age 40 with sciatica. Your response?” (12:40)
  • Nick Wright: “LeBron James is going to miss like maybe a month... Let’s see if he’s an all-star this year. My guess is he is.” (12:55)
  • Nick Wright: “If he’s not an All-Star this year, I’ll fold my hand and say I was wrong.” (13:16)

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3. Athlete Pain, Sacrifice, and Trade-offs – The Tiger Woods Conversation

(22:15–28:32)

• Tiger’s Physical Trials:
  The panel discusses Tiger Woods’ seventh back surgery, the toll pain takes, and whether fame and money are worth it at that cost.
  • Stugotz: “You get to be Tiger Woods right up until I give you the singular back pain... every morning, you’re getting up with that.” (23:36)
  • Dan LeBatard: “My grandpa didn’t have the benefit of having the back pain and being Tiger Woods. He just got to be Bob Gulotta.” (25:24)
• Hypotheticals on Trading Pain for Glory:
  Billy, Mike Ryan, and Greg Cody riff if Tiger would give up majors or money for less pain.
  • Mike Ryan: “Would he give up 500 million to keep three majors?” (26:23)
  • Greg Cody: “Yes, because he’s Tiger Woods. He can win that money back in endorsements.” (26:34)
  • Stugotz: “If I eliminated some of the pain that he’s walking around in... I’m guessing he would pay a great deal of money to have that.” (27:40)
• Generalizing the Conversation:
  The crew reflects on what listeners themselves might trade for chronic pain vs. fortune.

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4. NFL/College Weekend & Haunted Locker Room — Athlete Vulnerability

(34:45–36:59)

• Colts Locker Room Going Sideways:
  Discussion on how pregame freak injuries (like Anthony Richardson’s workout band orbital fracture) and teammate concussions would affect team vibes:
  • Dan LeBatard: “Do you think your team is haunted?... Do you leave the locker room saying, 'I don’t want to play today'?” (35:13)
• Facilities Safety in College Football:
  Venting about dangerous sideline obstacles like brick walls and comms boxes too close to play.
  • Dan LeBatard: “No brick wall was too close. I think we saw... pitfalls of having the brick wall there.” (36:12)

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5. Quick Hits: Player Drops, Quarterback Talk, and Field Dimensions

(37:08–38:30)

• NFL Receivers and Ball Drops:
  Analysis of Amon-Ra St. Brown’s rare drop (possibly changing the Lions game) and the modern difficulty of catching.
  • Dan LeBatard: “The Amon Ra St. Brown drop proved pivotal... that totally ruined their chances in that game.” (36:59)
  • Stugotz: “He never drops the ball.” (37:08)
• College QBs and Field Size:
  Tua Tagovailoa’s NFL future, Arch Manning’s upside, and the idea that modern athletes may have “outgrown” field dimensions.

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6. NASCAR Human Interest: Denny Hamlin’s Elusive Championship

(40:08–42:29)

• Greg Cody’s NASCAR Moment:
  Greg emerges as a fan, applauding Denny Hamlin reaching the Championship 4 despite a reputation as the “best driver never to win the Cup Series.”
  • Greg Cody: “He’s basically seen as the greatest, most accomplished driver who’s never won the cup series... now he’s close.” (40:42)
• Drama & Ownership Angle:
  Dan notes Hamlin’s dramatic season, dual role as owner/driver, and ongoing lawsuit with NASCAR.
  • Dan LeBatard: “He relishes being the villain. He also has an in season podcast...[He] is presently suing NASCAR. He owns another team...” (41:25)

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7. Greg Cody’s Injury – Pain and Bravery Theme Bookends

(43:04–45:24)

• Greg’s “Quiet Pain”:
  As the panel debates the cost of glory and pain, Billy notes Greg Cody is quietly powering through a torn meniscus and ACL injury without complaint.
  • Billy: “It’s really incredible what Greg is going through... I think he is an inspiration today.” (43:44)
  • Greg Cody: “Thank you, Billy. You know, I don’t like the spotlight on me... the fact that I have a torn medial meniscus and a sprained ACL... I don’t mention that.” (43:48)
• Callback:
  Stugotz callbacks to the earlier Tiger Woods/pay-for-pain debate:
  • Stugotz: “How much money would you give to not have that pain? How many trophies would you give?” (44:58)
  • Greg Cody: “I would go through the pain.” (45:17)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Nick Wright on gambling and stakes:

  “I gamble for real, guys… I am, as happenstance, by chance, in about nine hours, playing in what will likely be the largest poker game of my entire life, to which I will need bundles of money.” (04:55)

• Nick Wright on the shifting nature of the bet:

  “If Dan really thought we were betting a Corvette, does that make the bet? Meaning we weren’t really betting anything? Because who’s gonna find, ship, and buy a Corvette? Like, am I now a bad guy because I texted Dan my wire number this morning because I want that money?” (05:06)

• Dan on legacy and pain:

  “My grandpa didn’t have the benefit of having the back pain and being Tiger Woods. He just got to be Bob Gulotta.” (25:24)

• Greg Cody on athlete humility:

  “Thank you, Billy. You know, I don’t like the spotlight on me… the fact that I have a torn medial meniscus and a sprained ACL… I don’t mention that.” (43:48)

• Nick Wright, big-poker bravado:

  “This is a bigger game than I probably should be playing... It’s at a billionaire’s penthouse, but I think I have a huge edge. I’ve played in it once before. I lost, but… call it an investment.” (16:33)

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Segment Timestamps

• White Corvette/Nick Wright bet saga: 02:12–15:57
• LeBron All-Star at 50 debate: 12:40–14:10
• Tiger Woods, pain & legacy tradeoffs: 22:15–28:32
• Colts “haunting”/locker room injuries: 34:45–36:59
• NFL/receiver drops, field size chat: 37:08–38:30
• NASCAR/Denny Hamlin as underdog: 40:08–42:29
• Greg Cody’s personal injury aside: 43:04–45:24

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Episode Vibe & Tone

The episode is fast-paced, sardonic, and loaded with inside jokes. Nick Wright’s passionate, occasionally exasperated tone is balanced by the show’s usual blend of straight-faced goofiness, sports nerdery, and philosophical asides on athlete sacrifice. The “white Corvette” becomes the running bit, Nick’s real gambling stakes lend urgency, and deeper questions about fame, pain, and what we’d give up for sports glory connect threads throughout the hour.

Transcript

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[Nick Wright]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugats]

Where are you guys on this? What? I don't want to contaminate the jury pool. What do you want to know from Nick Wright about what this bet actually is, isn't, or where my confusion is on what the bet is?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I think I want clarification on your confusion because you're under the impression that this was a bet for a white Corvette.

[Stugats]

I woke up this morning with the empty feeling in my stomach that I had to get Nick Wright a white Corvette and that was going to be pricey.

[Dan LeBatard]

However, we reviewed the tape and we didn't get confirmation of that bet made with Nick Wright and Nick Wright, although we'll give him the floor now, he has conceded that this is now complicated.

[Nick Wright]

Yeah. Hi, guys. Nice ascot. Dan, you look resplendent as always. This is why it is frustrating to gamble for real money with people that are what I would call more of a casual. Other people would say, not problem gambler. Is this very. It was very clear we were betting $5,000. And then over the course of the weekend, LeBatard, who also has a very odd text schedule which is like you text him in the middle of the day, it might go unresponded, but then he'll text you at 1:30 in the morning as if we're not both on the east coast, is sending me pictures of white Corvettes. And I. And while I thought the bit with Greg Cody was funny, I didn't understand it. I then text Dan yesterday about, hey, you know, just so we're on the clear here, how do you. If by some chance, even though I knew there was no chance, never a doubt. If by some chance the Chiefs lost, how do you want me to get you your money? He texts back, I don't want a white Corvette. I'm like, yeah, okay, that's cool, but I just want to know your Zell. And so I'm. And then this morning he text me, this is gonna look so stupid in front of your house and a picture of a beat up, old bad Corvette. Meanwhile, I, I am, I, I have a weekly betting budget. I had incorporated $5,000 of it to this bet.

[Stugats]

So if somehow I, I told you he bets big.

[Nick Wright]

No, I, I bet, I gamble for real, guys, I, that I gamble. And here's the other piece of it. I am, as happenstance, by chance, in about nine hours, playing in what will likely be the largest poker game of my entire life, to which I will need bundles of money. And this 5,000 isn't gonna make or break that, but it would be helpful. And now I'm in this weird spot where it's like, did. If Dan really thought we were betting a Corvette, does that make the bet? Meaning we weren't really betting anything? Because who's gonna find ship and buy a Corvette? Like, am I now a bad guy? Because I texted Dan my wire number this morning because I'm gonna want that money. And if we want to parlay that in down the road for the sake of the show to where this is just 5,000 in escrow. And when it gets to a large enough figure to where it could pay for a white Corvette. I guess my comfortability with that is going to depend on how tonight's poker game goes. Guys, good to see you.

[Dan LeBatard]

This, this Dan LeBatard off on the side texting you. I don't want a white Corvette. Trying to get himself away from that bet he made only two moments later turn to a microphone and say Nick Wright has to take this car is unbelievable, even for Dan.

[Nick Wright]

I mean, I don't. And here's the thing. I'm not opposed to a white Corvette. I'm not like Greg Cody where I, I think it would. I let me. Greg, that was unfair. I, I take that back and I respect for you take a cheap shot. I would be opposed to a white Corvette if it were my only means of transportation. But as like a sidecar, like, because I, I already have what would. What is, you know, what is kind of a ridiculous car. It's awesome, but it's a ridiculous car. I, because I got it for my wife, but it's our only car. It is a baby powder blue G wagon. So like, that car already draws some eyes. So if like I, well, see, this is the thing.

[Stugats]

You, you put me in such an unflattering. No, you put me in such an unflattering light there without allowing for the fact that you're the one who suggested that the bet should be the Greg Cody actual Corvette that he didn't like from his wife.

[Nick Wright]

That, that is the funny, the funniest outcome. But also, Dan, that's because once you start sending me these pictures and then I respond with, well, if this is where we're actually going with it, like here's an actual cool one. I. Even if you checked my Google history, it would be old school white Corvette South Florid. I don't want that. But I did. What I did say was if we're just gonna go full sake of the bit, then we need to reach out to Greg's insurance company. Because if I know anything about Greg Cody, he's had the same insurance company since you walked into an office and they hand wrote the slip for you. They definitely have his, his, his, his history. And we can look up, we can track down the that white Corvette and then make the current owner an offer that, you know, they can't refuse. That is the. If the funniest outcome is that that car does become a part of this universe. But I need that five grand, bro. Like, I would have bet an extra five on the Chiefs last night. This can't cost me money. Like, what.

[Stugats]

What.

[Nick Wright]

What can't happen here is the Chiefs annihilate the fraudulent Lions to. To the point to where Brian Branch, the biggest, toughest guy, is safety in the league, is near tears in the locker room saying, and I quote, I got bullied. Which I checked with the league office. Juju's gonna have to sit out recess Thursday and Friday because of that. No bullying on this campus. He's almost in tears talking about it. And I. And somehow I feel like I lost money. That can't happen. I'm just telling you right now, like I like. So. So we can do whatever white Corvette stuff we want, but at some point, either in cash that is handed to Mike Ryan, that he holds for me for the next time I'm in South Florida, or via. You know, I. I'm not really a crypto guy.

[Stugats]

You're not gonna bully me, sir. I'm not gonna be bullied.

[Mike Ryan]

The difference between a high jinx better and a real better.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, you're messing with the guy's business.

[Nick Wright]

I mean, this is you don't I dance?

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, this is.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're gonna stop being friends with this guy real soon if you keep playing.

[Nick Wright]

No, it's just. Here's the other thing. The other thing is this. If I can just reveal a little bit more. I then was in a very awkward position because I. What I won't allow is for me to be free rolling somebody. And it felt like once we were texting about Corvettes, I'm like, wait, am I. Does. Am I. Is. Are we in a situation where if the Chiefs win, I'm gonna want my money and if the Lions win, Dan's gonna be like, you don't owe me any money. And I don't feel as a. As a guy who's been gambling since I'm 12 years old, I don't feel comfortable with that. I'm not gonna give you. I'm not gonna free roll you. So we.

[Stugats]

I don't even know what that expression is.

[Nick Wright]

Free roll. A free roll is a zero risk proposition where I can win, but I can't lose.

[Mike Ryan]

Dan.

[Stugats]

Well, it was to Nick, Given that he knew the Chiefs were going to win and ended up being.

[Nick Wright]

I mean, yeah, that's the other thing. That's the other thing. And I don't know how much time we have here, but it can. Can everybody for the fifth? Nah, it hasn't been that long of doubt. Fourth Straight year. Bend the damn knee. My God, you guys. My. How much, how many times does this team have to show the Eagles? Did you guys read Rossini's column this weekend? The Eagles anonymous players being like, we're just beat up and tired. We went to one whole Super bowl in a row. This team plays 20 or 21 games every single year. And the last half decade like clockwork. People find a reason this year's gonna be different. Watch out for those September champs Buffalo Bills. I've had to listen to the margin of victory champs Lions. The Lions, the biggest, baddest, toughest team on the block, has a fourth and inches from the goal line and and splits Jared Goff out because they are so desperate to prove to the world they don't miss Ben Johnson, who had just run it down somebody's throat and then, I mean, give me. You don't even know the rules on your own trick plays. You're cheap shotting after the fact. You go up 10 to 6 and then get boat race the rest of the way. And obviously it's going to end with the Chiefs winning. Obviously they're the best team. Obviously they're the most complete team. Everybody had the Lions at top their hierarchy. Now the Chiefs knocked him down a peg. Everyone had the Ravens as the greatest 1 and 2 team in NFL history. Now their season's over. The Chiefs have only won three games this year, which is disappointing. But in those three games they have ended Russell Wilson's career, ended the Ravens season and ended the Lions aura of invincibility and the biting your kneecaps quickly pivoted to. We got bullied, we got pushed off the swing set. And so yeah, the Chiefs are back. Dan, look for that car and I need that money.

[Stugats]

That team's dead.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nick, before we let you go, just 48 hours after you said LeBron James could play at an all Star level at the age of 50, it was announced he is out for a month at age 40 with sciatica. Your response?

[Nick Wright]

My response is very rarely. Will do you get for a hypothetical, a real life test to see who's right and who's wrong. LeBron James is going to miss like maybe a month of the season with sciatica, an old guy injury. Let's see if he's an all Star this year. My guess is he is. Okay, checkpoint me. All I'm telling you is. All I'm telling you is if at 40 turning 41 he can miss, you know, the majority of the time to become an all Star. Listen, if he's not an All Star this year. I'll fold my hand and say I was wrong.

[Dan LeBatard]

He will be voted in, no doubt.

[Nick Wright]

Well, I don't. Listen, Mike, I don't know if you want to. I know you reran the tape of our bet. When we were discussing this before, I didn't put any qualifiers on how LeBron James at age 50. I just said that guy an all star at age 50. And if he, and if he's voted in this year despite having the most old man of old man injuries, which is my ass hurts, then I feel like I won the bet.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think we actually brought up that possibility, but Dan is jealous with how aggressively you move the goalposts.

[Stugats]

See you later, Nick. Thank you. His podcast. His podcast. $5,000 in pennies is what Greg Cody has suggested.

[Greg Cody]

How would you feel about that? 500,000 pennies arriving?

[Nick Wright]

I mean, that would be a pain in the ass. But I'm already never betting money with Dan again, so. It is what it is. I, I, the thing is this. And like, it's. You just sell me. You got my phone number. I'll just. And I'm not again.

[Stugats]

How about.

[Nick Wright]

You know what? Binding. Here's what it is. Binding. And because I'm a man of honor, this is how I would like to handle this. We can figure out the white Corvette thing moving forward. However, let's see how tonight's card game goes. If I win, you can distribute that five grand amongst the shipping container. And if I lose, I'm gonna need it.

[Stugats]

Okay.

[Nick Wright]

I like this guy, dude.

[Billy]

We all agree tomorrow's shipping container today.

[Dan LeBatard]

Should be container right now because Tony killed off the Chiefs too.

[Greg Cody]

So, yeah, I'll take Tony's place. I want to be.

[Billy]

That's fair.

[Dan LeBatard]

We'll allow that.

[Stugats]

I told Tony he can have the Corvette, though. Yeah, I told Tony that you would.

[Tony]

We can work on the Corvette.

[Stugats]

You wouldn't want the Corvette so he could have the Corvette. I told him he. Because he's riding shotgun with me on that Chiefs offensive the last 18. 18 games was the actual Chiefs offense.

[Nick Wright]

Okay, well, listen, Tony's out of the way, shotgun with you in the white Corvette and your horrific football takes. That's fine. I, I, I don't, I do like Lewis. He says hello to me every time. You guys can divvy it up as you see fit, but let's just hope hopefully you guys get it. But I, again, man of honor. I might need it play well tonight. Thank you. I appreciate it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'll text you guys updates Jeremy off mic to himself under his breath. You're pathetic as you are. Just doing your thing, your little bit here, Nick.

[Stugats]

Why is that?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, it just sounds like Jeremy's out.

[Greg Cody]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

Although if you want Jeremy to be out, we'll accept.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that's not fair, Nick.

[Stugats]

What. What is. Why is this card game so big?

[Nick Wright]

Just a lot of money.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean. Yeah. Okay, cool.

[Tony]

A lot of money.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dan, sometimes you have to explain things.

[Mike Ryan]

Is it streaming anywhere?

[Nick Wright]

No, no, no, no.

[Stugats]

I thought you. I thought you regularly played in games that were a lot of money. Why?

[Nick Wright]

I do.

[Dan LeBatard]

He does.

[Nick Wright]

I do. Yeah, but this is.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's well known.

[Nick Wright]

This is. This is. I gotta be. I gotta. I gotta say this quietly because I gotta take my wife somewhere and she might be right there. This is. This is a. This is a bigger game than I probably should be playing.

[Greg Cody]

It's had a. It's at a.

[Nick Wright]

It's at a billionaire's penthouse, but I think I have a huge edge. I've played in it once before. I. I lost, but I. Not. But it was a. Call it an investment. And so there's a big. Is a big swing. Is a big swing. Like, this is this game. This game could be brand new white Corvette. Now, I wouldn't spend the money on that, but. Yeah, this is. This is. This is real. This real. This. What? Listen, man, you work as hard as me, you have all these extra jobs, you do all these things. It's really just so you can live the exact life you want to live in. What that life means is Monday night, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go take a shot. I'm gonna go take a big shot. So I'll see how it goes. And then hopefully I win. And then the shipping container and everyone else wins. And hopefully the only loser in this is Dan and his ascot.

[Stugats]

See you later. Good seeing you, Nick. Thank you for making the time.

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[Greg Cody]

Hi, everybod.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugats]

What is the worst part of the life?

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats.

[Nick Wright]

The worst part of the life of what?

[Stugats]

This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.

[Nick Wright]

Foreign.

[Stugats]

Anyway, I'm gonna figure out a way to send him the one that Billy's talking about there that has no transmission.

[Greg Cody]

We'll track down my original one.

[Stugats]

He got you how to do that though. Going through your insurance paperwork would be the way to do that.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I'll get. I'll get on.

[Stugats]

You could give it to to Tony if you want.

[Mike Ryan]

You'll get on it?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I will. I'll get on it.

[Stugats]

I wanted to ask you guys about something from the sports weekend that I think is probably going to go under the radar a little bit, but Tiger woods is now emerging from his seventh back surgery. It is lumbar disc replacement. I don't know if any of you have ever had back pain, but when you have back pain, there's like nothing else going on in your life. And so over the last four years, one of the greatest ever, an icon for all time, a sport changer. Over the last four or five years, he's only played in like 15 tournaments and four of them are 36 holes. And you can use a cart. Like, if in terms of how aging presents itself in front of the immortals, it usually isn't quite that stark where my back hurts because of this game. I can't play it if my back isn't right. The reason that I never caught Jack Nicklaus is because his back went bad. Because the human back isn't meant to do that that many times. So Tiger woods, seven back surgeries. I'm assuming he's physically and fundamentally broken every time he gets up. And I'm assum assuming that part of his journey has had pills in it. Because there is pain all the time in a way that is unreasonable. And I say that, I don't say that recklessly. I say it like he has talked about some of the things that are required to stay on top of that sport. I can't imagine how much pain he's.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, it's been in the news. It's not reckless to know what was going on in the past with him.

[Stugats]

But how could it not be? Would be the place that I would start with you, but then I'd go another place. Right? Because obviously any one of us would say, yeah, worth it. Worth it. If you get to be Tiger woods right up until I give you the singular back pain and say every morning you're getting up with that and doctors are going to try and fix it for 10 years with seven surgeries, and it's just going to keep getting worse. Worse. It's never going to get better. It's just, you're bleeped for life. You're going to be in pain for life. I know everybody would say, worth it right up until you wake up with back pain.

[Greg Cody]

Help me understand. Because you have to assume he hires the best back surgeons available. If you're having a seventh back surgery, does that mean the first six didn't quite work? Like.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like he also got in that wreck? That was not part of the script. But I do think Tiger woods would accept everything that came his way to remain being Tiger Woods, a guy who at his peak, was bigger than the sport itself.

[Stugats]

Agreed. I'm just saying, once pain arrives singularly with mortality on this, when it's this overt, I can play 15 tournaments and four of them are gonna be the same one and it's gonna be in a cart and it's gonna be 36 holes because what I used to be, I ain't that anymore. But I love it so much that I'm gonna keep trying. Cause maybe I can beat Jack. Cuz Daddy raised me to beat Jack. And I, I. All I'm telling you is when the back pain is that bad, I understand everybody would say it's worth it. Because anybody listening to this would say, yeah, I'd like to be Tiger Woods. I'm just saying that back pain is singular. It, it stops your life in its tracks. Like you, you don't think about anything else once you get out of bed in the morning and the first thing that meets you is it hurts to get out of bed in the morning.

[Tony]

Some people have back pain for free. You don't get paid what they get paid to drive in a car and play in the tournaments that he does. And it's like, yeah, that's, that's terrible. But also he has access to things that people don't have.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, my, my grandpa didn't have the benefit of having the back pain and being Tiger Woods. He just got to be Bob Gulotta.

[Billy]

Okay, so he has 15 majors. He won't give back the 2019 Masters, obviously. But if you tell Tiger, hey, we're gonna take away your 2008 U.S. open, your 2007 PGA Championship, and your 2006 Open Championship, and you lose like 30% of the back pain, but also like 30% of the income or whatever that came from that. Do you think he takes that?

[Mike Ryan]

That's one option. I have another one. He's worth it. Says the Internet. 1.3 billion. 500 million.

[Billy]

No, that's no back pain.

[Mike Ryan]

A divorce, you now, you give up 500 million, you now have 800 million. No more back pain.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, but he gets a white Corvette.

[Mike Ryan]

Got to get to keep the majors. With my scenario, you get rid of 500. 500 million, but you keep the, like. What do you think between billion I's game? Do you think he gives up a chunk of his money or would he.

[Greg Cody]

Give up the money?

[Billy]

Would he give up 500 million to keep three majors?

[Greg Cody]

Yes, I think he would. I think he, I don't think he'd have to think about it. I think he would do that easily.

[Mike Ryan]

You think he'd give up 500 million?

[Greg Cody]

Yes, because he's Tiger Woods. He can, he can win that money back in endorsements.

[Billy]

No, no, he can't. Part of the stipulation. He can never go over million. He'll never be a billionaire again.

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God, he'll be so poor.

[Billy]

He can't. It's impossible.

[Mike Ryan]

Still get in money he's already getting in. But there's no new, bigger deals to recoup that money.

[Greg Cody]

I think he's going to do okay.

[Stugats]

So I want to ask you guys this because you guys have heard me say before, some form of money doesn't buy you happiness, but it helps with the down payment. I would say that most people listening to this, if they have money problems, there aren't a lot of problems bigger than money problems. But some of them would say, no, my pain is. My pain is a bigger problem than my money. And once you get to a stratosphere where what you're talking about is Tiger woods yacht is gonna be the same, he lost that much in a divorce already. He could lose it again. If I eliminated some of the pain that he's walking around in. To just let him play golf without pain, I'm guessing that he would like. He would pay a great deal of money to have that.

[Billy]

Well, that's why I'm taking away some of his accolades now. He's not that close. He goes from 12 majors to or for 15 majors to 12 majors. Does he trade majors for health and he can't play anymore.

[Stugats]

Can I make it simpler for you guys, though? Like, what would I have to pay you to endure back pain that wasn't going to get better?

[Billy]

Like, how much 3 billion is.

[Stugats]

Yeah, but.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that sounds a good number point, though. If all of a sudden you get 1.3 bill, but your life stinks the rest of the way.

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[Mike Ryan]

I think you guys are underestimating, like, terrible back pain for the rest of your life.

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[Mike Ryan]

I would. I think I would just take my life as it is now as opposed.

[Billy]

To getting $1 billion.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dude.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, do you know I'm agonizing back pain?

[Dan LeBatard]

Are you not selfless? Wow. You guys know how much good you can do with that money?

[Mike Ryan]

Super easy. Super easy for you guys.

[Dan LeBatard]

As I wheel into our 12th national title celebration.

[Billy]

It's also not like back pain where he can't walk, he can't play golf for a weekend without it hurting.

[Mike Ryan]

The pain I'm talking about is like every morning you're in pain getting out of bed.

[Stugats]

If you have seven surgeries in 10 years, something's really wrong with your body.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right. The selfless good I'm going to do is winning 12 natties with the University of Miami as Arch Manning plays for them.

[Stugats]

Let me ask you guys, if you take Arch from yet.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm proud stockholder.

[Billy]

You would Take him next year.

[Dan LeBatard]

He looked good. He looked good.

[Mike Ryan]

Your voice went up when you said that.

[Billy]

He comes back, right? He's not going.

[Dan LeBatard]

He looks really good.

[Billy]

He's not going. He looked good, man.

[Stugats]

Mike has been doing deep dives the last three weeks on how Arch Manning looks against pressure. He actually looks in the pocket the way. And this is something that you can feel, right, Because I thought, I thought the easiest betting mismatch in that Texas Oklahoma game was how good that Oklahoma line is against how bad that Texas offensive line is. But Arch Manning has some moments Young amid the frenzy where he looks like there was only one young quarterback I saw yesterday, young quarterback that looked in the pocket this way and it was Drake May, where you're like, oh, he's figured out how to move around in there. He's totally comfortable back there. He's feeling things correctly now over the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Course of 40 years. The Patriots are going to end up being bad for three of those years. And the Dolphins did nothing with those three years.

[Stugats]

They were. Yeah, they put a couple of four and 12 seasons together and Drake May is now obviously the first round talent. And when you put an organization around it that's not Cleveland or Carolina, that withstands Jared Mayo gets rid of him and then makes it variable. The Bills have an instant challenger in the division because we can all see, oh, that quarterback can do that. Give Arch Manning a minute, okay, because it's fair to add.

[Dan LeBatard]

No more stock. I bought the dip. I tried to tell you. Tried to tell you. Red river, weird game.

[Stugats]

Yeah, it always is. And Texas now number seven ahead of Miami in the future rankings.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Dan LeBatard I feel like we need to normalize saying these scientific terms for.

[Tony]

Organs on the air. Like someone yes, you know what? If someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats.

[Greg Cody]

That free kick hit him right in the cock. A doodle doo.

[Stugats]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. The thing that I want to wanted to say from yesterday and I want to ask this question because it's going to. It's going to skip on the radar from the football of yesterday because I think many of us learned together. Jacoby Brissette's there back up and it's a close game. It's nice. It was comforting to see Jacoby Brissette back out there doing Jacoby Brissette things. But the things that happen in the Colts locker room before that game that make them one of the good teams in the league that can escape on one of those weird Sundays where Arizona has no business being in a game but their defense is really good and the Colts offense is really good. So the Colts offense did things to the Arizona defense. But also before the game, Anthony Richardson is doing something with those elastic bands and shatters an orbital bone. I can't even imagine how horrific this was in the locker room where he ends up in the hospital because one of these bands has snapped in his face and now he's hospitalized. But also during that game, they lose their number one corner to a concussion from just colliding during warmups with a teammate. And what I wanted to ask you guys, if you're the Colts in that circumstance and they have a down game and talked afterward about, yeah, that was weird. Our energy was totally off because we were like worried because our guy was headed to the hospital and another one had a concussion. Do you think your team is haunted? Do you leave the locker room saying, I don't want to play today. Everything here is haunted. That's two, not one. I believe there are ghosts here. I don't want to play. I don't want to play football today.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jim Ursay having a hell of a time in the afterlife.

[Stugats]

Charvarius Ward is their number one cover corner and he gets concussed before the game and all of a sudden Brissette's like, I wish I'd done that myself.

[Tony]

It looked like he got knocked out, like he was running full speed and.

[Nick Wright]

Hit a guy that looked like a fridge.

[Tony]

And all of a sudden he was like laying lifeless almost on the floor.

[Stugats]

I wanted to ask you, this happened twice in college football. So the Arkansas Tennessee game, did you see that? The coach's comm box which looks like a micro. A microwave from like 1950. They knocked out all the comms between the coaches because a kid hit a. A giant thing that shouldn't be that close to the field that seems dangerous. And in a game I was watching a kid carted off in an ambulance or the week before in Tennessee or two weeks before ran into a brick wall. Cuz it's too close to those. Those 2 ton beluga whale goal posts. Should the brick wall and the coach com machine be those giant things near violent people moving very quickly so that, like, does that make any sense to you guys?

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, no brick wall was too close. I think we saw what it, you know, the pitfalls of having the brick wall there at.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that ranks right up there with photographers being about an inch and a half from the end line on an NBA court and players plowing into. Into photographers. Same thing.

[Stugats]

What did you guys make of Nick Wright sticking out his chest on the idea that the Lions were bullied? Because I just. Look, their offense seems like if it would be on the road occasionally against really good defense, it could be slowed just because that's what we've seen happen with Green Bay. It didn't happen against Baltimore, it happened against Green Bay. And it happens against the Chiefs. And that whole game ends up swinging because the Chiefs score a touchdown at the end of the first half, get the ball and score another touchdown to start the second half. And now Detroit's just chasing.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Amon Ra St. Brown drop proved to be pivotal. That totally ruined their chances in that game. That was a. When you look back on it, that totally changed the game.

[Stugats]

He never drops the ball.

[Dan LeBatard]

Never.

[Greg Cody]

He's great.

[Stugats]

Like, what is that? Like, what. Can you guys get me a drops number? Like, but I, I remember that Larry Fitzgerald had more tackles than drops at one point. I know DeAndre Hopkins went multiple seasons without a drop. I'm. I'm. I'm finding it sort of maddening the amount of people like Brian Thomas, Tony, that guy. How many times, how many times does he drop balls?

[Tony]

Third and seven, and it's for the game. We're driving down the field.

[Stugats]

That's twice.

[Nick Wright]

It's a catch I would make, dude.

[Stugats]

That's twice this season.

[Tony]

But then he makes a catch where.

[Nick Wright]

It gets bobbled up.

[Tony]

He's running full speed behind him. He catches it, scores a touchdown. And then Travis Hunter is nine feet past the line of scrimmage. What are we doing?

[Mike Ryan]

Waddle also had a bobbling catch where he's like. Caught it on the ground like sliding four feet.

[Stugats]

I see. Great. Look, man, the field is not big enough for the athletes on it, ok? Because I just. I saw this weekend in Alabama, they're playing Wildcat with Proctor. He's £366. Like the fridge was a novelty at 320 because they just hand him the ball. This guy's taking screen passes and running the Wildcat that he's 40 pounds heavier than William the Refrigerator Perry.

[Mike Ryan]

They're throwing him screen passes the way Drake May moves. And then there's Tua.

[Stugats]

The field's not big enough.

[Mike Ryan]

That's what I'm doing now. With my football experience. I am just looking at every quarterback at college NFL. I'm just like, tua couldn't do that. Oh, wow. Tua could never do that. Couldn't do that either.

[Stugats]

So you guys are just all out in all the ways you guys have run, and you're wondering why Tua doesn't want to take all the blame when you guys are just done with all of the careers of people in dolphin uniform.

[Mike Ryan]

Hate hearing him talk.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Makes me so angry.

[Stugats]

Used to love hearing McDaniel into a talk. Remember you loved hearing him talk during the preseason when he ripped Flores and gave you the interview while you were scratching your balls the entire time.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, that was a year ago now.

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[Stugats]

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[Billy]

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[Stugats]

You. Wow. They got that up. Why is that so ready?

[Greg Cody]

What are you doing?

[Stugats]

They got that video up fast.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm glad that we can just take attention away from my gut and my body.

[Stugats]

You loved how he talked then. You loved so much how he talked then. Look at how you're looking at him. Look at how you're looking at him. He's that man. Could take your shorts right off you and you wouldn't even notice.

[Mike Ryan]

Those are damn impressive shorts.

[Stugats]

I'll tell you.

[Greg Cody]

The look of love.

[Nick Wright]

That's the look.

[Mike Ryan]

That's Tua.

[Stugats]

Now you're so out. You and your dad. You descended from Homerism. Look at how you're looking at him now. You're out on him even speaking. And Billy wants to give him lie serum.

[Billy]

Look how close he is to having his arm around you, too.

[Mike Ryan]

Right there, touching my shoulder.

[Billy]

I think you're leaning in a little bit there.

[Greg Cody]

Right after the camera went off, he said, let me help you with that string there.

[Dan LeBatard]

What?

[Greg Cody]

Nothing.

[Nick Wright]

No, he's right.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you, Tony. Tony.

[Mike Ryan]

Remember, Tony will agree with anyone.

[Dan LeBatard]

What?

[Stugats]

Would you believe that Greg Cody came in here wanting to talk? Denny Hamlin, I don't think. I don't think I'd see the day it took till he was 71 years old. Where Greg Cody runs in here with the desire to talk about racing that I haven't seen since him and Gary Long were trudging to seven miles away from the Homestead Speedway.

[Greg Cody]

That's right.

[Stugats]

What. What? How did. Mike Ryan has been trying to get here to talk Denny Hamlin for. For about six months, and everyone ignores him. They wait for him to stop talking. They Wait for the breakfast on his breath to end up, you know, wafting away.

[Greg Cody]

I'm a. I'm a closet NASCAR fan. I'm by no means an expert, but I love their playoff format. I think going from 16 drivers to 12, I think it's. It's a great system that's working. Granted, they tweak it every single year, it seems like, but Denny Hamlin, you don't have to be a NASCAR gearhead to know that. And Mike will correct me if I'm wrong. He's basically seen as the greatest, most accomplished driver who's never won the cup series. And now he's close. He's made the championship four. He's guaranteed of his best shot, I think to win it all. And that's a good story. That's a human interest story. I've never met Denny Hamlin. I don't know whether he's a nice guy worth rooting for or not, but I think it's a fun story to follow.

[Dan LeBatard]

He relishes being the villain. He also has an in season podcast that is often Revel.

[Stugats]

What's it called.

[Dan LeBatard]

He is presently suing nascar. He owns another team. Week after week, something dramatic happens. He either wins a race or. Or is directly involved in something seismic. Whether it be knocking out his boss's grandson for a race, knocking out a driver for a team that he owns, or allowing Joey Logano to creep back into the final eight when he himself admitted, like I wish I didn't past Ross there. Had I known that men Joey made the playoffs, I wouldn't have let the defending champion in the final eight. It is a great underreported story. You understand why it's underreported? Because it's NASCAR and it's having this playoff chase in the middle of the football season. But yeah, he is considered the Buffalo Bills. I think that was his 60th cup race win. He is by far the greatest driver to never win a Cup series and he is right there in the final four. In a sport that in a playoff format that allows for some randomness, it is good to see one of the more consistent drivers actually get to the final.

[Stugats]

You can't talk anymore. You have to stop talking. Once the gearhead falls off, you have to immediately stop talking. You violated the rules there. You've got a. I'm sorry to do this to you. I don't know how rare it is. Shouldn't his team forgive my ignorance here. Shouldn't his team alert him that Logano is in that position? If that's something their driver wants.

[Dan LeBatard]

They should have, probably. Yeah, yeah. It's not at the front of mind when he's there. The spotters do do a good job of that, but he was already, like, fixed into the. The final eight. Yeah. It was just an oversight, and Logano just turned to the dark arts again to get in the final eight.

[Billy]

Can I just marvel at Greg for a moment? Coming in here, talking nascar, talking dolphins, we talked about Tiger Woods. Tiger woods back surgery. It's really incredible what Greg is going through, because I don't know if you guys noticed, Craig has been hobbling around a little bit today, and I was asking around, and I heard that he has an ACL injury. He has to see some specialists, might need surgery. Not to put his business out there. And he's not saying anything to anyone about it. He's not telling people, hey, I'm not going to be able to do this or that because of my leg. He's not making excuses. He's just powering straight through. And I think he is an inspiration today. And we haven't given him his just due yet.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you, Billy. You know, I don't like the spotlight on me. I don't like it when it's all about me.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

And so the fact that I have a torn medial meniscus and a sprained ACL and might need knee surgery, you know, I don't mention that.

[Stugats]

It sounds, if it's torn and sprained, that you do need knee surgery.

[Greg Cody]

It could be. I'm seeing my doctor tomorrow who's going to refer to an orthopedic surgeon. So I should know very soon.

[Billy]

And here's the thing about him. When I was. When I was asking him about it, I was like, oh, my gosh, Greg, like, this is devastating news. How did this happen? And he's like, I don't even know. Because he's so focused on his work and all of his other responsibilities and everything else that's going on, he's just powering right through. He doesn't even know when it happened.

[Greg Cody]

Believe it or not, it is weird because I had a discomfort in my right knee for a lot of weeks, but I assume it's related to age or arthritis. And it wasn't pain. It was just mild discomfort.

[Billy]

Because the strong ones don't feel the pain.

[Greg Cody]

Exactly.

[Billy]

Not today. You said, yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Is this gonna take you out of bowling for a while?

[Greg Cody]

Yes, for sure.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow.

[Greg Cody]

And then all of a sudden, it went from mild discomfort to real pain. And so I immediately had an MRI and That's what it showed.

[Stugats]

How much money would you give to not have that pain? How many trophies would you give to not have how many trophies? How many green eyeshade awards would you give back in order to not have that pain?

[Nick Wright]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Or PFPI championship.

[Billy]

PFPI is a good one.

[Greg Cody]

I'm an eight time PFPI champion. Dad's Dynamics and.

[Mike Ryan]

But only, I think only three in the modern era.

[Greg Cody]

I would not.

[Mike Ryan]

I think five of those were before the 60s.

[Greg Cody]

I would not any of them. I would go through the pain.

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[Stugats]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

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