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- [00:01]
Jeremy
Hey, friends, Jeremy here. The NBA on Prime is back tomorrow with another great Emirates NBA cup doubleheader. The night starts with Pascal Siakam and the Indiana Pacers meeting Donovan Mitchell and the Cleveland Cavaliers, a matchup that, if Tyrese Haliburton was healthy, probably would have been a potential Eastern Conference finals preview. Instead, you got Donovan Mitchell, who's averaging about 30 a game, and the Pacers, who were struggling. But those games on prime are always intense. And then it's down to Texas, as Anika Jokic in the Denver Nuggets as Big Honey plays some of the best basketball of his career, which is certainly saying something. Get their first look at Kevin Durant and the new look Houston Rockets. If you're not a Prime member, that's not a problem. Just sign up for a 30 day free trial to get started today. Pacers, Cavs, Nuggets and Rockets coverage starts tomorrow at 6:30pm Eastern only on Prime. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details.
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Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats Podcast. Miami does care, even if we do not always act like it. So until midnight tonight, we'd like you to be a part of what it is that we're doing. I know a lot of you don't listen to the show live, you listen to it later in the day. So we have until midnight tonight to raise money for givemiamiday.org I know Ron McGill will tell you that there are a lot of extraordinary people in our community who do do a lot of community minded things to help, but rare among them over many decades is Dave Lawrence, the publisher or the former publisher of The Miami Herald. And what he does on this day for Miami is extraordinary. It is exhaustive, and it is not easy to raise, you know, $40 million from over 50,000 donors for things that people often don't care about, whether it's the arts or MUS or an autism theater project or, you know, the Philip and Patricia Frost Museum of Science. There are any number of things in South Florida worth donating to, and one of them is zoo Miami's Ron McGill's endowment, his substantive endowment that you guys, our listeners, have given more money to than anything. I don't know, actually, Ron, if you're involved with givemiamiday.org are you? You know Dave Lawrence, right?
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Ron McGill
I know Dave Lawrence. I just. I've already donated to Dave in his honor. Reid and I have both done that. And listen, guys, you know, like, I've always told people I love what I do, what I do with the animals, and the endowment is very important. But there's no single animal life that's more important than a human life. And, you know, human. Human aid needs to always take priority. And in this time and age, there's so many people that need help. So, though I appreciate if you have anything extra, you can go to the Zoomiami foundation and donate for that. But, you know, if you gotta set a priority, make sure you're doing things like, for people like David Lawrence who are really helping the core of our community. And at the end of the day, by him doing what he does, those kids, those families can hopefully grow up to be conservation warriors themselves.
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Dan LeBatard
Give MiamiMiday.org is where you go. Where you been? Ron, we have missed you.
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Ron McGill
I appreciate it. I've been in Patagonia. I did a one last trip with the family. You know, the two kids are now in their 20s and 30s and before they have, you know, married Suneva and others, and they have careers taking off. I wanted one last trip with just the four of us. So I wanted to go to the end of the earth. And I did that with just an amazing trip. I mean, you know, from glaciers and mountains to cliffs and beaches and elephant seals fighting in pumas, hunting and. God, it was amazing. Condors. It was just amazing.
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Dan LeBatard
Zaslow, what would you like to hear as highlights from this trip? When Ron McGill says a trip was amazing, he's been all over the world and alleged to have seen any number of amazing things. Are you interested about what the most interesting or amazing thing he saw on this trip was or not really.
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Amin Elhassan
I mean, the thing that hits me because I feel Like, I'm about to go through it with my older son. Like, the idea that you are doing one last trip with just, you know, your family, the four of you, that kind of bums me out. Like, were you bummed out at all?
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Ron McGill
You know, I wasn't bummed out. I would be bummed out if I wasn't able to do it. But I made it very clear to all the kids, listen, I'm paying for this. It's out of my pocket. This is the last time you're on the payroll for a trip, because the next time we go, I know they're going to want to bring their significant others and stuff. And I said, I'm not paying for that. I'm not paying for that. I wanted one last trip and appreciate it with just the four of us. I think sometimes we. We don't do that enough. And we have always traveled together, the four of us. But like I said, you know, one lives in California now, one is working here doing a bunch of different things, and they're all out of the house. Have been out of the house for years now. And I just. My wife and I just wanted one. Listen, I cannot overstate how nice it is to have breakfast, lunch, and dinner with just the four of us every day for two weeks.
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Mike Ryan
Ron, can you believe that Zaz has never seen March of the Penguins?
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Dan LeBatard
What?
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Amin Elhassan
That's not true.
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Ron McGill
What rock are you living under, brother?
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Amin Elhassan
Oh, my God, Ron, he's totally making that up. He never asked me, and I happen to have seen March.
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Ron McGill
Okay, I don't believe him.
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Mike Ryan
I don't believe he's seen Happy Feet and he thinks that's March of the Penguins.
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Ron McGill
Okay, who narrates March of the Penguins?
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Amin Elhassan
That's a young and a paquin.
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Ron McGill
Oh, no, Absolutely not. It's Morgan Freeman. You're a liar. You didn't see the movie.
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Dan LeBatard
Oh, no. You didn't know the answer to that question.
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Ron McGill
Oh, my God.
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Dan LeBatard
He's being revealed as a fraud, a movie fraud, here in front of us all.
- [06:31]
Ron McGill
He's a movie fraud right there.
- [06:33]
Dan LeBatard
Give miamiday.org, put it on the poll. LeBatard show. If you don't know that Morgan Freeman narrated March of the Penguins, are you a movie fraud? Yes or no? And also, LeBatardshow, if you haven't seen Dodgeball, should all your movie opinions be disqualified?
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Greg Cody
Ron, a week ago, a bird of prey landed in my backyard and I did some Googling. I'm pretty sure it was a retro tailed hawk. Then for the next two days after that, My dog was afraid to go on the grass. She even went to the bathroom one time on my patio. She never displayed that behavior before. She's since gone to the grass. But are the two things related?
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Ron McGill
How big is your dog, Mike?
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Greg Cody
My dog is a medium sized whippet.
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Ron McGill
Yeah, well, those are, those are not the most courageous dogs to begin with. You know, that's why they're so fast. They're right next to the greyhound there as far as their running capability goes because they're used to being run after instead of running towards something. But having said that, it could be related. They could sense. Listen, we're in the winter season now. As we get into the winter, more and more birds of prey are coming through here as a migration. You know, South Florida is kind of the funnel of the migration route into Central and South America for all the birds of prey that are now coming out of the north. So we're going to see a lot more hawks, falcons, kestrels, things like that. Now not that you're not, not that that red tailed hawk would have gone after your, your, your whippet, but I'm sure an instinct in the whippet made it aware of its presence and said, listen, let's be safe than sorry.
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Mike Ryan
Zaz, you seen Birds of Prey?
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Amin Elhassan
That's with Margot Robbie. That's Harley Quinn. Of course I've seen that. Smanayou, look at that.
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Dan LeBatard
His credentials, credentials are getting stronger. And so that's scent based. How, how rare is it, Ron?
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Greg Cody
The bird did poop.
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Dan LeBatard
Yeah, I was going to say. So the bird poops and now the dog knows to be afraid of the area because the poop, the scent tells the dog that it's a meatloaf in the wild.
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Ron McGill
No, I don't think, I don't think it's as much that, I think probably much more either visual or audio because the hawks will constantly call and animals pick that call up all the time, not to mention the visual. Remember, your dog has much better sight than you do and they're noticing any kind of movement, any kind of different kind of thing in the yard. That's how they survive. So that's probably what it was.
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Dan LeBatard
I don't think so. You're. But it's a threat. It's a threat and the dog's a coward.
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Ron McGill
That particular dog, yeah, it's not the most aggressive, you know, fighter of dogs. Let's leave it that way. It's a very thin, very agile, fast running dog, but not necessarily a fighter.
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Dan LeBatard
Run because it's afraid, because it's a Coward?
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Ron McGill
Are we just trying to label Mike's dog as a coward?
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Greg Cody
That's exactly what they're trying to argue.
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Jeremy
I mean, you did it, right?
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Ron McGill
What I said was that that dog is not bred to fight. That dog is not bred to hunt as much as it is to run.
- [09:20]
Dan LeBatard
From things, because it's a coward.
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Greg Cody
Okay, all right, stop. It's very rude. She's very old.
- [09:28]
Ron McGill
Listen, I tip my hat to you for raising her. You did not tip your hat.
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Mike Ryan
Didn't even try. Ron, there's a house in my neighborhood that when the birds come home to roost, they all sit on top of just that house.
- [09:42]
Greg Cody
Why?
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Jeremy
It's a bad sign.
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Ron McGill
Listen, that's pure speculation. I couldn't tell you exactly why that is, other than is somebody putting bird feet out? Is somebody putting out feet? Is that house next to a fruit tree or something that provides any kind of source? Does it provide shade? Does it provide shade? For instance, when the sun is setting, does that tree provide a block from that sun setting? Or is it the other way around? As the winter comes around, is it a metal roof that can radiate heat that the birds enjoy or. There's so many different reasons.
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Mike Ryan
It's like a planned community. So the rules are all the same. All of them have fruit trees and stuff like that, but they always sit just at this one house. And it's not. I don't see them feeding. I don't see them swarming. They're just there chilling at the end of the day. Just all.
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Ron McGill
It's hard to say. You know, probably one of the alpha birds, so to speak, may have picked that tree. You can go into the Everglades, for instance, and every night all these egrets and ibis will come and roost on one tree that looks like it's no different than any other tree. But every night they come back to that same tree, and I don't know why that is. You know, is it more. More protected from predation as it provide them with some kind of shade or barrier from wind or whatever? There's so many things, so many variables that would be pure speculation when there's something about it.
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Dan LeBatard
When we talk. The weather in South Florida is ridiculous. I've been talking to some of my friends who are in rain and snow. Your weather friends shoveling snow? Yes, some. Some friends from New York who are. Yes, my weather friend. And. And what South Florida has right now in terms of weather is completely absurd. It's beautiful, and it's why so many people are here. When a Bird of is flying through here this time of year. How rare is it for it to grab a pet? A cat, a small dog, small fart, a pet.
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Ron McGill
Oh.
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Dan LeBatard
Oh.
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Ron McGill
Yeah. Good job.
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Dan LeBatard
All right.
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Ron McGill
Oh, my gosh.
- [11:53]
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Dan LeBatard
Don LeBatard the elephant went into a 711 and bought a pack of cigarettes. But my question to Ron is this Stugach. That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to, did it? We all just stared at it. This is the Dan lebatar show with the stugats. Can you answer my question, please, Ron?
- [14:52]
Ron McGill
It's very rare that a bird of prey will go after a small pet. Extremely rare. Now, if you have one of these, you know, ridiculous, like teacup yorkies or something like that, a little miniature Chihuahua or something like that. Yeah. Great horned owl, you know, a cat.
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Dan LeBatard
A cat?
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Ron McGill
No, no. I just don't see a bird of prey, you know, short of an eagle going after a cat, at least an adult cat. Kittens, sure. Kittens could be subject to almost any bird of prey of medium size, but generally speaking, no your pets, unless, like, say, the extreme designer teacup breeds that could easily substitute for a rat, then you've got a problem. You know, anything from a rabbit size on down. Absolutely. There's a, there's a, there's a certain risk there.
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Dan LeBatard
Let me get to some video here. You are not an insect or bug expert, but you're always talking to us about how animals have an incredible strength. Now, I don't think this is AI but this video here of a bug holding on to the side of an airplane, successfully holding on to the side of an airplane. Is that real? What is happening there with the physics of that as the speed of should, that. Those, those arms should not be strong enough to be Tom Cruise in the Mission Impossible movies. What's happening here?
- [16:08]
Ron McGill
Well, they can be strong enough to do that. You know, they have very fine little hooks, so to speak, on the ends of their, their, their feet, their, their legs. And though you don't notice it because it's, it's so minute, glass does have a lot of little fissures in it that they're able to grasp onto that way. So that's not, I believe that's probably true. And I think eventually that thing just blew off. But it is pretty spectacular to watch it there.
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Dan LeBatard
It did blow off. And did it blow off to its death?
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Ron McGill
No, not at all. That can fly. That was the type of Katie did. And it basically has wonderful wings that basically opened them up as soon as it fell out of the plane and came down to earth like a little parachute.
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Greg Cody
What a stupid question, Dan. No, it's a bird, you idiot.
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Mike Ryan
Oh, no, I'm falling.
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Ron McGill
Oh, wait, I can fly.
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Greg Cody
I remember my nature as a bird.
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Ron McGill
Well, also, listen, you know, in deference to Dan, it could have been an insect.
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Dan LeBatard
That doesn't.
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Ron McGill
A lot of insects don't fly.
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Dan LeBatard
These guys are making it a bird. I thought it was an insect. I didn't think. I didn't think that was a bird.
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Ron McGill
It's a katydid. It's an insect. And to your point, katydids do have wings that are disguised so you don't see them like you would see the wings of a fly or a wasp or a butterfly.
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Amin Elhassan
That's a bird of.
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Ron McGill
See the wings kind of flapping a little bit in the wind. There. There are insects that don't have wings. Listen, I don't think this is an insect. I'm going to defend Dan here. There are insects that don't have wings. Having said that, had it fallen off of the plane because of the size of the insect and the. Basically, you know, the resistance it would have in the wind and having an ectoskeleton, it would likely still survive a fall.
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Greg Cody
That's right. It's like dropping an ant from the empire state building. The ant just lands like a. Like Captain America would.
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Ron McGill
There you go. The wood rolls around.
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Amin Elhassan
I think that's a toucan.
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Ron McGill
Yeah. Okay. You also thought that what's her name narrated March of the painted money pack one.
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Amin Elhassan
I want you to be John Anthony.
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Ron McGill
And I'm missing a lot of the inside.
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Dan LeBatard
Oh, his credibility is getting stronger now when he's answering some of the means supposedly difficult quiz questions. They're not difficult with impersonations.
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Mike Ryan
Not difficult. I'm just throwing the softballs that this loser, this sucker be swinging and missing on.
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Ron McGill
Hey, guys, before we go any further, I want to let you know we finally got our two new lions in. So if anybody's down in Miami want to come to the zoo, we could. Our two boys are back out. The boys are back in town. So lions are back at zoo Miami. Royalty has returned.
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Mike Ryan
That's awesome. That's awesome. Zaz, you ever seen the ghost in the darkness?
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Ron McGill
Oh, that was a good one.
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, I know, right?
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Ron McGill
Did you see it? That's.
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Dan LeBatard
It doesn't seem like that was a good one. It doesn't seem like Zaz saw it.
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Ron McGill
That was a great film, Zaz. You know, it was a. You know, what was it?
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Amin Elhassan
About the lie. It was about darkness. Shit was dark.
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Dan LeBatard
Can we get to some more video for Ron McGill here, please? Let's see what we have here. We are going. Let's see what we have here. This is a buffalo charging a tourist. Or is this a shark? Okay, this is a buffalo charging a tourist.
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Ron McGill
What is this, Yellowstone? Trying to get too close to bison, and all of a sudden he gets charged. Oh, wow. Surprise, surprise. Natural selection, brother. Natural selection.
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Dan LeBatard
All right, let me see the next video that we have here. Is this. Okay, this is a crocodile or is this a crocodile? Yeah, this is a crocodile.
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Ron McGill
Oh, no, I think that's an alligator, guys. No, I have. I can't see the. No, it looks like an alligator, but.
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Dan LeBatard
What'S the fish tail? Why does it.
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Greg Cody
Yeah, it's got, like, a fin.
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Dan LeBatard
What is. Why does that. Why does that have a tail? That's a fin.
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Ron McGill
That's obviously some kind of either genetic deformity or AI but it's. Yeah, it's. It's just. It's a deformity. It's very possible that the tail just splayed out and grew that deformity there. Or like I say, I don't know if I could believe anything I see on the Internet these days.
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Dan LeBatard
Okay. But let's believe that for the purposes of what we're doing on this show, let's pretend that everything we've got here is an AI Is not fake. So what is this? Why is this happening here?
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Ron McGill
It's just a deformity.
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Dan LeBatard
No, no, no, no, no. Next. Next up on our list, tell us what's happen. Cattle, I guess what is happening with.
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Jeremy
Cattle in Ireland were transported on a boat and dove into the water to swim to their grazing pasture.
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Ron McGill
Okay. Yeah, I guess you can't bring that boat too close to shore. I. This is a first for me. I've never seen.
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Jeremy
I didn't have cows jumping or swimming.
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Ron McGill
Yeah, I've never. No, they can swim. That. That's not. That's not an unbelievable fact. You can see them swimming, but I don't understand the purpose of bringing a boat and then making them jump out into the can.
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Jeremy
Horse swim.
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Ron McGill
Horses can swim as well.
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Jeremy
Nice.
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Ron McGill
Almost all mammals can swim.
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Ron McGill
They couldn't dock the boat.
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Dan LeBatard
Horses did. You mean horses.
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Ron McGill
You treat it like you have invited me to Seabiscuit. Listen, I've ridden a horse while it swam. I mean, I've been on the back of a horse while it was swimming.
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Greg Cody
While it was swimming. With nothing below it. With nothing below its feet.
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Jeremy
With horse.
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Ron McGill
Yeah, a horse.
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Jeremy
That's horse.
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Dan LeBatard
Thank you, Ron.
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Ron McGill
What are these? All of these juvenile infantile.
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Dan LeBatard
No, it's Chris Cody. I think Chris Cody tried to make the plural of horses.
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Amin Elhassan
Horse. Eye.
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Dan LeBatard
Horse. And it's not the dumbest thing he's ever done. Thank you. I guess I called an insect a bird.
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Dan LeBatard
Ron, welcome back. We have missed you.
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Mike Ryan
Yes.
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Ron McGill
Yes.
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Dan LeBatard
Where is the We've got Sounds Miami for Miami give Miami, Miami day is today and they sent us a bunch of stuff to make noises. We your we is insincere.
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Ron McGill
There you go.
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Dan LeBatard
Thank you, Ron. We appreciate your time.
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Ron McGill
Dave Lawrence. Dave Lawrence, support Dave Lawrence, take care.
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Dan LeBatard
Genuinely happy to have you back. And yes, I don't know how many of you in our audience know truly philanthropic people who, despite whatever the politics of the day are, are really just trying to be about the right things. But Dave Lawrence, the former publisher of the Miami Herald, has been a giant of a man in our community for a long time doing a lot of things for people that a whole lot of other people do not care about. If today you are feeling any kind of generous with excess money, and I do know that these times are difficult for people and I also know that that inflation is a total insanity that is making it very hard to give. So if you do not have money to give, I do not shame you for this. But if you have some excess money and you don't know where to put it and you want something that I'm assuming these donations are tax deductible and I'm assuming that this kind of giving is something that will cost you less than it might if it were not tax deductible. So givemiamiday.org is going on until midnight tonight. We will check in with Tony again in a little bit bit here from Lone Depot Park. But please give if you can because there are a lot of organizations. You don't even have to look it up. These people are doing good things. This is a good person that I know to be doing good things for many, many years in this community for a whole bunch of people that other people do not care about. And so I could not vouch for him more strongly in these terms as a giver to this community since I've known him. And he was my boss at the Herald along time ago and he was my brother's boss at the Herald. And in the name of my brother, the Perez family Foundation is giving $10,000 to an assortment of the arts here in South Florida. But you can give to whoever it is that you want and you can find all the information that you need as well. Givemiamiday.org, go to the website and get informed.
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Amin Elhassan
Don Lee I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just just take a picture.
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Ron McGill
Stugats.
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Amin Elhassan
I would die. I don't know where it is.
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Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. I'm a little uncomfortable by the amount of arguing that Amin and Zaz are doing and the number of ways that Zaz has been shamed today by Amin. So let's see if Zaz can find out if Amin knows about that. I don't really understand this game that Zaz and Z are playing, but it's something that Zaz has been grilling Amin about basketball and generally Amin has known, but there have been a couple of times that Amin has not known. So let's see if you is the point to stump him here?
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Amin Elhassan
No, it's just we all want to learn about what's going on in the association, so we're going to find out, you know, for me, if you know about that. You ready?
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Mike Ryan
Me, I'm ready.
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Amin Elhassan
I mean, last night, Zion Williamson decided to play basketball. Very rare occurrence. All right. He played last night. Pelicans still lost. They're awful. You know about Zion Williamson?
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Mike Ryan
I know about Zion Williamson. I don't think he decided to play as if he decided not to play. In other moments, he was been hurt again. Another victim of the hamstring strain that's been going across the league. He's hurt now. You. I think he is an example of someone that we can blame for some of his injuries, for being out of shape, but this year is not one of them. This year he came in to camp the best shape of his career, and he got hurt. Sometimes happens.
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Amin Elhassan
Zion Williams is a massive bust. Right?
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Dan LeBatard
Can that be declared now? Can. Can that be be declared over?
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Mike Ryan
I mean, I. I don't know. Know. Not. Not until he doesn't play well. Right. Because that's. That's the part with him that's different from like Greg Oden, for example, is that when he plays, he's amazing. It's just he's hurt a lot. So I think until his play, the drops off or he just doesn't play anymore, I don't think we can close the door.
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Dan LeBatard
They're such a nowhere franchise that it just feels like his bustiness has ended up. Up just cratering them.
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Amin Elhassan
Remember, they were one of those franc. Remember the night that they won the draft lottery and they showed like the room and everyone was freaking out. And it was one of those deals where they got rid of the entire sales staff, you know, because you didn't need a sales staff. That was a joke to sell. No, I. I think that actually get rid of.
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Mike Ryan
They didn't get rid of them. It was a joke. Was like, I don't know if we need a best sales staff, but they didn't die.
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Amin Elhassan
It kind of happened with the Heat when we got LeBron. But anyway, now all these years later, it's like, that building's empty, man.
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, no, the people in New Orleans are pretty pissed. And it's finally hit anti Zion. I think for the first few years, people were like, very protective and supportive. Now the fan base is like, get this guy out of here, because he never plays and we can't move forward as an organization. Also, the early play of Derrick Queen and Jeremiah Fierce has given the fan base a glimpse of, oh, okay, maybe there's life after this.
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Dan LeBatard
All right.
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Amin Elhassan
It sounds like Amin knows about that. Zion Williamson. Amin, the Sixers, they lost the Toronto Raptors at home last night. So speaking of playing, Joel Embiid, he never plays. Like he played a few games at the beginning of. See, he never plays. You know about that? Joel Embiid?
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Mike Ryan
I know all about that. I also know about that Philadelphia 76ers who started hot, now are couple games above 500. Reality is starting to set in for them. And again, Joel Embiid, to me a poor example of the use of the word decision. That dude is legitimately hurt. Hurt, hurt, hurt. And unlike Zion, he been hurt since before he played a single game. He's had a leg. I think he's just got a bad body. Like the Pelicans, though the light at the end of the tunnel has come up between Maxi and Edgar. It's like, okay, maybe there's life after. After. Excuse me.
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Dan LeBatard
Joel Embiid, Toronto good or schedule the last 10 games?
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Mike Ryan
Toronto's good. Toronto's good.
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Jeremy
You know about Toronto?
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Mike Ryan
I know about Toronto.
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Dan LeBatard
I'm sorry, I'm playing, playing the game wrong. I'm sorry. I ruined it. All right. You know about Toronto?
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Amin Elhassan
No. You know about that. Toronto.
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Dan LeBatard
You know about that. Toronto.
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Mike Ryan
I know about that. Toronto. Toronto's good. Toronto. Look, the Brandon Ingram deal last year was one of the most under the radar deals. But that was a huge move for them. It gave them a legitimate score to go alongside Scotty Barnes. They got great length across their perimeter. Mark Wetz used to talk to me about this, like the concept of small ball, but playing big, big, small ball, which is all right. We were not going to have two traditional bigs, but all of our perimeter players are 6 7, 6, 8 or taller and can handle do multiple things. And I think Toronto is doing a good job. Don't do that, Dan. I care about you.
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Amin Elhassan
Amin sounds like you know about the Sixers and Toronto. The Oklahoma City Thunder, they beat Sacramento last night. They are 15 and one now. Oklahoma City. Jalen Williams has even played yet the Thunder on pace to lose like five games this year. You know about that record 73 wins.
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Mike Ryan
I know all about it. And the thing that makes them a great candidate to do this, number one, their margin of victory is the highest in NBA history right now. Right. Which would break with the bulls were the 96. Bulls were the prior number one. But number two, because their margin of victory is so high, they're able to to not have to play guys. So I don't hear anybody crying about Jalen Williams not playing. The reason why is because they go out there and they bust Ass. And they win. And so they. They have the luxury of bringing them along as slowly as they want. But I said the stat the other day about Che Gusis Alexander not having to play in fourth quarters, but yet still being able to score 30 points in a game. Pretty remarkable.
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Amin Elhassan
All right. You know about that thunder. Amin. Last night, Nikola Vucevic hit a shot at the buzzer for Chicago Bulls are fun.
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Jeremy
Well, they.
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Amin Elhassan
They won two in a row now after losing five straights. You know about Chicago Bulls?
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Dan LeBatard
The Russian. You know about the Russian?
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Mike Ryan
Vucevic is Montenegrin. And I know it's. It's a joke, I know, but, like, I just want to be clear, because some dumbass. Having said that, is that with a dumbass out there, my teeth stick out when I'm dumb and I talk about things, I don't get the job. But, yes, two games in a row. You know who they beat before they beat Portland at a buzzer?
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Greg Cody
Who?
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Mike Ryan
The Denver Nuggets.
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Dan LeBatard
That was a fun game.
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Mike Ryan
Fun game. Chicago. Like Dan said, they do play fun. They. They move around. They're cutting their passing. And it's kind of like them Atlanta and Miami have all had this kind of awakening of like, we're gonna play offense a little differently. Not so much. Give it to our best player, and everyone get out of his way. And Josh Giddey is having a phenomenal year. I think I know about them Bulls.
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Dan LeBatard
Oh, OKC discards.
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Amin Elhassan
Sounds like you know about them.
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Dan LeBatard
They're running the sport. They're running the sport.
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Mike Ryan
I don't know. I wouldn't call Josh Giddy a discard.
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Amin Elhassan
They got a good guy for him.
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Greg Cody
How was that thing?
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Dan LeBatard
I'm just saying. Saying that OKC has so much abundance that they can give you a player who can be your number one because they don't need him.
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Greg Cody
Yeah, there was that thing.
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Jeremy
Heat at Bulls tomorrow. You see?
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Amin Elhassan
Yes, I've seen Bull Durham. I got one more for you, Amin.
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Mike Ryan
Okay.
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Amin Elhassan
Jalen Brunson returned last night for the Knicks. They won a close game at the Mavericks.
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Mike Ryan
Last minute call. Last second call there.
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Amin Elhassan
You know about that.
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Jeremy
It's.
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Mike Ryan
Man, Maverick should have won that game. That layup was good. No Cooper flag last night. The first missed game of his career. Or as Zazzle would say, he decided not to play.
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Amin Elhassan
No, he was sick. If you're sick, you can't play. He was sick.
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Mike Ryan
So was Draymond.
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Amin Elhassan
Yeah, he was sick that he couldn't play with Steph because Steph was out.
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Mike Ryan
Yo, Zaz.
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Jeremy
Yeah?
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Mike Ryan
You ever seen Maverick?
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Amin Elhassan
I have.
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Mike Ryan
Who's in it.
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Amin Elhassan
Mel Gibson almost called him Tom Cruise.
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Greg Cody
Yeah. How about that chemistry between Mel Gibson and Jodie Foster? Off the charts.
- [33:30]
Dan LeBatard
I know.
- [33:30]
Amin Elhassan
I like. I like when he wins the hand at the end of the movie. That was good hands.
- [33:36]
Greg Cody
You know about that James Garner.
- [33:37]
Ron McGill
Spoiler alert.
- [33:38]
Dan LeBatard
I would have said. I thought of. I thought of a notebook. Put it on the poll at Levittard show. Was Maverick trick a James Garner vehicle or a Mel Gibson vehicle? Because I honestly thought James Garner before Mel Gibson.
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Greg Cody
James Garner was in the. The movie remake at Levitar.
- [33:57]
Dan LeBatard
What they call that show on the.
- [33:58]
Ron McGill
Pole, the tip of the hat.
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Dan LeBatard
I can't believe I did that, though. James Garner, that's a Mel Gibson movie. That's where Mel Gibson became or started to be.
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Greg Cody
Honestly. You ever watch a movie and like, have sex already?
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Mike Ryan
Dan, Maverick is not where Mel Gibson started to become a star.
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Amin Elhassan
I mean, Lethal Weapon. Now you'll know movies.
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Ron McGill
Lethal Weapon.
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Greg Cody
He became a star.
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Ron McGill
Mad Max.
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Jeremy
He became a star.
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Greg Cody
15 years.
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Mike Ryan
I have a proclamation. You know who doesn't know about movies?
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Dan LeBatard
Oh, no.
- [34:28]
Mike Ryan
Dan Leviton. You suckers belong together.
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Dan LeBatard
It was a bad mistake. I just had never. The. I. I never thought of him Lethal Weapon. I never thought of him as a comedy person. But I was making Maverick the part that made him a. My bad, my bad.
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Greg Cody
You know, Mel Gibson. Say what you will.
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Dan LeBatard
No, no, no, don't do that. I don't understand how he's made a comeback. He's still making movies. He's making. He's somehow.
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Amin Elhassan
Yeah, my people are forgiving.
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Jeremy
Doesn't like Lucky J's.
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Dan LeBatard
Jeremy, can we get from yesterday's show? I just want to get an assessment from you and an assortment of thoughts. I'd like to start a segment that more reg critiques the show from the day before. I'd like to get imaging for this. I would like somebody to be an ombudsman for the day before. What it is that we did incorrectly, where it is that criticisms reside because I suspect while you were listening to yesterday's show, I could just imagine you screaming because of whatever it is that Mike Ryan had to say about the University of Miami. We've spent a lot of time there over the last couple of weeks. We're going to spend a lot more time there, I suspect there through the holidays. But do we have imaging for this or we're just gonna start it cold? Acapella. We're just gonna do it. Acapella.
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Jeremy
Yes, it's me. There's no imaging for anything like that. But speaking of Mel Gibson. Dan, careful. You started the show yesterday by criticizing the cream cheese usage of Jonathan Zaslow and Ethan Badowski. I'm just gonna say careful couple Lucky J's over there. Just be careful on the cream cheese.
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Dan LeBatard
Breakfasts have gotten skimpier here because our cream cheese budget is excessive because of how Ethan and Zaslow are eating.
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Jeremy
So you're just gonna double down on it?
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, I'm with them. They keep eating all the people. They keep controlling the amount of cream cheese we have here.
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Amin Elhassan
What do you mean? They?
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Dan LeBatard
Are you two. Not the two who have been eating all the cream cheese.
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Jeremy
They're the Jews who have been eating all the cream cheese. Does Dan know?
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Ad/Promo Announcer
I don't think.
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Jeremy
I don't think he realizes.
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Ron McGill
Oh, my God.
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Mike Ryan
He doesn't know. Oh, my God.
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Greg Cody
So uninformed.
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Jeremy
My God.
- [36:37]
Greg Cody
He doesn't know.
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Jeremy
I think Tony was right. Wemby wouldn't be good at softball.
- [36:43]
Mike Ryan
You guys are ridiculous. You're ridiculous if you believe that. The dude could do the splits.
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Jeremy
No, no, no, I understand that, but it's really difficult to, like, bend as quickly as you need to do to crawl. No, but he's short and stout. That's better.
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Dan LeBatard
Poll at Lebatard show. If you can do a split, does that automatically make you good at softball?
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Jeremy
It's not about athleticism. It's about being near the ball would bend toward the ball. Would Wemby be a good first baseman? I feel like we should.
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Dan LeBatard
That too. That too.
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Jeremy
I mean, he'd be good at catching the ball thrown at him. But I don't know about fielding ground balls.
- [37:18]
Dan LeBatard
He'd make a double play. He'd. He would field the ball at second base and be touching both bags.
- [37:23]
Jeremy
Just reach across 60ft and. So interesting.
- [37:27]
Greg Cody
How do you think this segment's to be going?
- [37:28]
Jeremy
Dan asked if the kids would put Eddie Murphy up there with Richard Pryor. As if the kids know who Eddie Murphy is. Even my bro, you know, my brother who's, like a full grown man. He was born the year Shrek came out.
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Dan LeBatard
Damn.
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Jeremy
That's how old Eddie Murphy is.
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Dan LeBatard
So they don't know Eddie Murphy.
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Jeremy
Not as a comedian.
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Mike Ryan
They know him as Shrek the Donkey.
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Jeremy
They know him as Donkey.
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Ron McGill
Yeah.
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Jeremy
He's making waffles.
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Ad/Promo Announcer
Waffles.
- [37:52]
Greg Cody
Loves a parfait.
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Jeremy
But, Dan, that idea that you had about watching old sports moments with kids.
- [37:57]
Dan LeBatard
Kids.
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Jeremy
Good idea. It's a really good idea. Not even a criticism. Really good one. We asked who ruined their legacy more, Ben Stiller or Bill Belichick? Stiller Loser. Nepo, baby.
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Ad/Promo Announcer
Wow.
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Jeremy
Father's the goat. And he's just, like, out here.
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Amin Elhassan
Definitely Belichick.
- [38:12]
Dan LeBatard
He works hard.
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Jeremy
He's Marcus Jordan. Scrotum face. Good insult.
- [38:16]
Dan LeBatard
I was surprised RFK didn't make an appearance on yesterday's show.
- [38:20]
Greg Cody
I didn't want to touch that one.
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Jeremy
And lastly, there was an argument made that there's a world where Ole Miss should miss the playoffs if Lane Kiffin were to leave while our show spent the overwhelming majority of two hours of the show arguing that the only thing that should matter are the games on the field. And I just don't understand sort of the backward line of thinking there, because I am. I am fully.
- [38:50]
Greg Cody
You're a decontextualizer, Mike.
- [38:53]
Mike Ryan
Viral decolonization.
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Greg Cody
This is textbook. No, I was just asking the question. I wasn't telling you what to think.
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Ron McGill
Sure.
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Jeremy
Okay. So, that being said, though, the last observation, Mike's totally right about everything. It is a TV contrivance. It's the SEC College Football Invitational, where all they do is invite the teams that they care about. They've been doing this for a decade, and all that really ultimately matters is their bias against the free state of Florida. They don't like. They don't like people here. They exclude teams from Florida. It's a bias against those of us living in this free state. Our Great Governor Ron DeSantis needs to step up on behalf of the little guy and get Miami to the playoff. And if not, they should maybe consider, if they're not invited, claiming a national.
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Greg Cody
Championship, there it is.
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Jeremy
If they're not given the opportunity, that's.
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Greg Cody
What they should do.
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Jeremy
Now, have they won all their games? No. You probably should win all your games if you're going to claim a national championship. That's how you do it. But they have an opportunity to be excluded from this thing. That is clearly just a TV contrivance, and I don't think it's right either. Mike, I'm with you. I'm here in support. Why? Because I'm saying the same things Mike says.
- [39:58]
Greg Cody
It feels like support.
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Dan LeBatard
The thing. Get the. I need your support from Greg Cody there. The thing that's not being talked about. And perhaps you guys can clue me in on this because. Because it's a giant business, and a few weeks ago, they had a different spokesman giving different reasons for why Miami isn't Notre Dame. Paul Feinbaum is now on Miami's side and talking emotionally with his hands a lot in defense of Miami, which is not something I have seen very much of over the Years. But is anyone covering or talking about? It's Mack Rhodes, right? Like they just changed from that guy to the wet sock who came out a couple of days ago and was saying what he had to say. And so now the voice of, hey, somebody's coming out in public on behalf of a giant business once a week. Okay? As a spokesman. Giant business different than the guy from two weeks ago. Hey, Wet sock, can you explain this to me? Okay, yeah, I'm the Arkansas athletic director. Let me give you the explanation. What happened to the previous guy? He was less of a wet sock. Is this a made for television event or not? When they change voices and faces on. Who's going to explain the business of this to me? As you 12, as you guys decide who are the 12 teams and you're just gonna make it up on behalf of this giant business. Is anyone reporting, like, why they change those two things?
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Greg Cody
Well, Mack Rhodes took a personal leave of absence. If you run a Google, it's not the prettiest situation that he was dealing with. And I know Wet Sock didn't ask for this job. It just kind of landed on his lap unexpectedly. Okay, that's all right. Understand you're not ready for the cameras. Not only did he open up a world of hypocrisy, but the criteria specific to Miami also changed when Mack Rhodes was there. We'd like to see a little bit more consistency from Miami two weeks ago. Absolutely. I agreed.
- [41:52]
Dan LeBatard
Offensively.
- [41:53]
Greg Cody
Yeah, offensively they needed to fix that. Now two weeks later, Miami has their second best offense in the last 20 years. And that discussion's out the window. Now it's about Miami being in a different tier. No one knew about this tier thing before, but that's how they avoid the head to head discussion. Who's in charge of the tiers? Because Miami is just three teams away from Notre Dame. I feel like that's close enough to have a head to head discussion, but apparently not. Apparently not. The, the, the tier that Miami is trying to get to apparently cuts off right at Alabama. And a huge talking point was, hey, why is Alabama behind Notre Dame? Alabama, because they rigged. Has four ranked wins because Tennessee and Mizzou should not be ranked. But whatever. They have a huge, a huge thing on their resume that says they've beaten four ranked teams. Why is Alabama behind Notre Dame? So they can avoid the discussion. Same reason why Utah's there. Same reason why. Well, byu. I think it deserves to be even higher than Notre Dame. They rig the entire system. They reverse engineer it with the, the bottom of the rankings because you don't care about Team 26. You don't care about Team 27. We just cut it off hard at 25. And that's how Arizona State gets to be 25 in the only goddamn poll that matters. Watch them not rank the winner of SMU Louisville.
- [43:12]
Jeremy
He's rigged.
- [43:12]
Greg Cody
Watch them not do that.
- [43:14]
Jeremy
All a giant conspiracy against Miami. He's right. It's a made for TV event and nobody thinks that the U should be there. And to those of you who are looking at me and saying like, why would they rig it against Miami? It's a you thing. You wouldn't understand. But Mike is right. Right when he says the lunacy is out there for everyone to see. And the normies are waking up. Incremental games. They're starting to feel the heat. And now it's back in the team's court. When he says that on Twitter, he couldn't be more right.
- [43:39]
Greg Cody
That's right. I know you're yanking my crank here.
- [43:43]
Jeremy
I'm supporting you.
- [43:44]
Greg Cody
I appreciate even your fake support.
- [43:46]
Amin Elhassan
I don't know what's going on on Twitter these days.
- [43:49]
Greg Cody
You just bought a G wagon thanks to crypto.
- [43:51]
Dan LeBatard
I need your support. Folks.
- [43:53]
Greg Cody
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