Hour 1: PLAYTHINGS

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 1: PLAYTHINGS (January 12, 2026)

Main Theme / Purpose

This episode finds the Dan Le Batard Show crew broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami as college football’s biggest party comes to the city. The group dives deep into college football storylines—especially the Miami vs. Indiana championship matchup—while satirizing sports narratives, blurring the lines between journalism and fandom, and staging an offbeat, on-location bit at a Miami sex shop called Playthings. Heavy Miami/college football talk, irreverent humor, and meta-commentary on sports media define the hour.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Miami vs. Indiana – College Football Championship Breakdown

• Dan Le Batard leads a passionate analysis of Miami’s unlikely football rise, arguing Miami should not be considered underdogs against Indiana. He contrasts Miami’s physical dominance with Indiana’s statistical prowess, especially highlighting Indiana’s high completion rate and unique efficiency.
  • “Miami should not be a touchdown underdog to any team in the country. Physically. It’s asinine.” (03:05)
• The panel debates the legitimacy of Indiana’s accomplishments and whether teams like Oregon and Alabama were truly elite this season.
• Zaslo points out that Oregon's supposedly convincing bowl win had a misleading final score, calling into question college football reputation points and highlighting the variability of single-game outcomes:
  • “The final score is very, very deceiving.” (04:22)

2. Indiana Strategy & (Reckless) Speculation of Cheating

• Discussion on Indiana’s uncanny defensive preparation leads to tongue-in-cheek banter about “cheating” and advanced scouting, playing up the show’s penchant for riding the line between hard analysis and wild speculation.
• Stugotz jokes about the improbability of Indiana’s four early-game interceptions, sarcastically floating ideas of Big Ten espionage, while maintaining the bit is “reckless speculation.”
  • “The statistical probability that a team inside the Big Ten is doing some sort of espionage is not slimmer than what we’ve seen...” (08:16)
• Dan and Stugotz point to the mental warfare aspect of sports narrative, with Indiana’s defensive coordinator even engaging with show contributor Mike Ryan on social media, blurring the lines between analysis, inside info, and entertainment.

3. Journalism, Fandom, and Going Viral

• The show pivots to a meta-discussion on what is and isn’t journalism, based on a viral post-game press conference exchange with Jaguars head coach Liam Cohen (21:05)—a reporter lauds Cohen with emotional encouragement instead of a question.
  • Dan asks: “Is that journalism?” (22:17)
  • Zaslo’s verdict: “That is not journalism. Not journalism.” (22:22)
• They riff on how sports narratives are adopted, spun, and debated on social media; Dan notes the reporter’s kindness is positive energy, but not journalism.

4. The Playthings Bit

• As a running gag, Tony attempts to do a roving report from outside (“and then inside”) a Miami sex shop called Playthings to “interview Hurricanes fans,” resulting in a parade of awkwardness, refusals, and comedic improv.
  • Tony highlights that patrons seek anonymity, and they’re not allowed to film inside for privacy reasons (13:02+).
  • Interviews a University of Miami student who is more excited for a free national championship ticket than invested in the show’s hot topics:
    • Tony: “What do you think about Mike Ryan?”
    • Oscar: “I’m gonna be honest. I don’t know who Mike Ryan is.”_ (15:05)
  • The crew jokes about being out of touch with younger fans and the absurdities of their on-location attempts.
  • Once inside, Tony attempts to match football takes with costume/sex toy browsing as the show pushes boundaries of site gags (24:05+).

5. NFL Playoffs: Drama and Playoff Collapses

• The crew dives into the wildness of the NFL playoff weekend, with Dan calling it “batshit crazy” and emphasizing how physical demands, small windows, injuries, and unforeseen drama drive storylines and ‘burn out’ great players and teams.
  • “We burned through these guys pretty good, right? ...You have these small windows in which to win. ... These rock hard specimens who collide for a living ...” (35:10)
• Focus on the Eagles’ meltdown, especially A.J. Brown’s drops, Jalen Hurts’ regression, and the “tush push” play losing its dominance, as well as the unique physicality and fragility of NFL careers.
  • “It must be unpleasant to be A.J. brown at the center of that particular fan base when it feels entitled to excellence…” (39:01)

6. Other Memorable Show Elements

• Rose presents a rapid-fire, tongue-in-cheek “Top 5 Sexual Things Dan Has Said,” playing off the Playthings bit and the double entendres in Dan’s football analysis. (42:17)
• Extended banter about what counts as ‘journalism,’ with Tony being dubbed a better journalist for his Playthings reporting than the viral Jaguars “auntie reporter.”
• The cast, including the Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog character, continues to weave in and out with comedic voices, commentary, and offbeat jokes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Physically. It’s asinine to make [Miami] a touchdown underdog because you’ve been made crazy by what the last two games look like...” — Dan LeBatard (03:05)
• “If there’s cheating, I need to know going into the game. I can’t go in blind.” — Zaslo (08:33)
• “I want to get into this because we’ve got another test case here in front of us… Mike Ryan is in this weird lane between insider and guy who knows the business and investor in the Hurricanes and information broker, but not tethered to journalism’s rules in any way.” — Dan LeBatard (10:12)
• “That is not journalism. Not journalism.” — Zaslo (22:22), ruling on the Jaguars viral postgame press conference.
• Tony, to fan: “What do you think about Mike Ryan?” Oscar: “I’m gonna be honest. I don’t know who Mike Ryan is.” (15:05)
• “Paint the picture, Tony. All right. No, no, I—we’re walking through more of—how do I say it? A bit of, more of, like, 50 shades of gray situation on this side, if you catch my drift.” — Tony (28:11)
• “These rock hard specimens who collide for a living and train their muscled bodies to make violent collisions…” — Dan LeBatard (35:15)
• Rose’s “Top 5 sexual things Dan has said”:
  • “Grinding”, “minus 69”, “load management”, and others—all during football talk, highlighting the show’s penchant for wordplay and double entendre (42:17)
• “Tony, thank you for your report from over there. Thank you for your bravery and journalism. And you did much better journalism than that woman in Jacksonville.” — Dan LeBatard (30:15)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:08] Miami’s place in college football, the rise to the championship
• [03:05] Dan’s “Miami should not be underdog” argument and stats
• [08:33] Suspicion, jokes about Indiana “cheating”; “espionage” banter
• [09:53] Mike Ryan/Indiana DC Twitter interaction — “mental warfare”
• [12:53] Tony's on-location Playthings bit begins
• [14:27] Awkward Hurricane fan interview at Playthings
• [21:05] Viral Jaguars presser: “Is this journalism?”
• [22:22] “That is not journalism” pronouncement
• [24:05] Tony’s costume/football takes inside Playthings
• [35:09] NFL playoff weekend rundown—burnout, drama, physicality
• [39:01] A.J. Brown in Philadelphia, fanbase pressure
• [42:17] “Top 5 Sexual Things Dan Has Said” segment

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Tone & Style

The show maintains its signature tone: witty, irreverent, meta, and at times gleefully self-deprecating. The hosts swing between nuanced sports breakdowns and absurdist comedy, often lampooning both sports media conventions and themselves. Local Miami pride, media self-awareness, and offbeat field assignments (e.g., Playthings) fuel the episode’s pace and quirkiness.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is equal parts sports show and comedic performance art. If you’re a Miami fan, diehard college football follower, or someone who loves sports talk that refuses to take itself too seriously, Hour 1: PLAYTHINGS delivers commentary on the college football championship, sends up the performance of “journalism,” and delights in a sex shop location bit that is as awkward as it is hilarious—all while dissecting the drama of the NFL playoffs.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Tony]

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[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

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[Zaslo]

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[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

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[Dan LeBatard]

We're gonna be doing a lot of different stuff in the streets of Miami as the party comes to Miami in college football in a way that is really rare. Really rare, I should say. This has been a championship city in football only because of this team. I know the Dolphins won a long time ago, but it was half a century when the Dolphins did the football winning. The quarterback coming in with Indiana is not just the Heisman Trophy winner, a source of great local pride, an overachiever of the highest order, and also statistically great in a way that the NFL and college hasn't seen over a full season the way he's been. 85%. I'm going to give the stats again because they're crazy in the playoffs. 85% or better completion rate and three touchdowns. He's had six of those games this season. No other quarterback, college or pro in the last 25 years has done that even four times in a season. What he did was at Maryland was truly impressive. Okay, so I. I don't mean to degrade this kid when I simply say when that team went, never mind Ohio State in the game they played against Ohio State, a team that Miami physically dragged when they played it. I went Penn State and played athletes comparable to Miami's. Maybe I don't think I was. Or Penn State's might be. Those were very close games that Indiana could have easily lost this season. The two games that Miami lost instead, Louisville and SMU as losses. The Penn State. The two games that they had this season that were the impressive. The the most impressive games outside of the ones that you know of Ohio State Obviously it's Illinois. It's what they did when we thought Illinois was better than they were and they were ranked. And, and I'm asking you, I'm going to say Maryland because I like Maryland, but I don't know that the country at large, like I liked Maryland all season and Maryland, I think lost, ended up losing six games. So my analysis was bad there. Just like it was bad on, on what Texas Tech's offense was because I didn't, I thought Texas Tech's offense would be able to do something against Oregon. And so now everybody's looking at the last two games and I understand this, the betting line move. I will tell you again, Miami should not be a touchdown underdog to any team in the country. Physically. It's asinine. It's, it's asinine to make them a touchdown underdog because you've been made crazy by what the last two games look like because they took out a bad Alabama team. That's, I mean, I don't care what anybody says about you beat Georgia every once in a while. That's as bad an Alabama team as you've had in the last six or seven years. It gets to the playoff. But that's not Alabama. That's just running around in the uniform of a ghost. That's the same thing Georgia was doing this year. That conference was not any good. Like Lane Kiffin ran that conference with it with a team that could put up offense because they got a quarterback who's going to go into a six year and is going to fight the ncaa, CAA and everyone else to the grave to try and get a six year Mississippi because he'll be the biggest star in college football next year and that's better than being the seventh of the pros.

[Zaslo]

And let's be honest, I mean, we've been questioning if Oregon's that good the entire season. And I understand what they did in the Orange bowl against Texas Tech. But still, we could look at the final score. 56, 22. Oh my God, Indiana maul them. Oregon gave that game away pick six on the very first play. Then you got the stupid fumble inside the red zone at 21 7. That game was over immediately. The final score is very, very deceiving.

[Dan LeBatard]

I believe that Oregon was getting some reputation points and again they did something to Texas Tech. So I'm wrong on this one, okay? When they did that to Texas Tech's offense because I thought Texas Tech was good enough to beat anybody, I'm like, okay, Oregon must have some defense. So that when I see Indiana do all of that to Oregon and Fernando Mendoza being as efficient as he, as he is more than any other quarterback, college or pro, I then end up believing in some of the history of Oregon and I believe it's a bit. It's about time to sort of revisit with the Dan Lanning stuff. Oregon never wins that game. And there's not a reason that Oregon, funded by Nike, would ever be worse than Indiana at nil. You lost twice to them this season, like they're Indiana's other impressive win is against Oregon. But is Oregon that good?

[Zaslo]

I don't know. I've been asking all year long, is Oregon that good? I don't know how fair the Dan Lanning stuff is though. Like, I know they always get smoked in that game, but literally the week before it, they killed Texas Tech. Like you can't ignore that, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't. I don't. I'd like to ignore it actually because of how bad it made me look on what I thought was a team that could physically be with Miami. But there is not a team I have seen that can physically be with Miami. It would look a little bit like Texas, it would look a little bit like Penn State. But when Indiana played Ohio State, you saw what that game was. And a hugely impressive victory incidentally. Like to beat the defending champions that way. But they didn't manhandle them the way that Miami did. The thing about the Ole Miss game, to me that was the most interesting is I'm watching Miami play a bad football game. Sloppy, undisciplined. Trinidad Chambers should have had four interceptions. It shouldn't have been. They were celebrating Trinidad Chambliss's as a new superstar. He should have had four interceptions.

[Zaslo]

Telling you all week about Trinidad Chambers, right? Who this guy?

[Dan LeBatard]

But Miami won the game anyway because they can beat you a number of different ways. And sometimes it'll be the quarterback's legs because they've spent a lot of money on the quarterback and this is the one they needed him to win. He's been playing caretaker at the end, in the end of these close games. He needed to be the one that won, that they lost it. I'm telling you that Louis Louisville game is a fluke. Think about the four interceptions that Miami dropped in its last game. Louisville made three spectacular plays on long ball interceptions against Carson Beck and wrecked his head with a four turnover game. Like. Like it was three great interceptions. Professional plays. You know how many plays I watched this weekend? I'm watching defensive backs drop the ball. Louisville had three great interceptions in that game. Trinidad Chambla should have had. It's four interceptions on 12 hands off 12 hands. It's not one hand interceptions. It's. There were 12 hands on four interceptions.

[Zaslo]

It was. It was two hands on a ball in your stomach.

[Dan LeBatard]

It might have been 14. It might. There might have been somebody else who bobbled it. Lewis Riddick said he's never seen a game like that. And Miami won it anyway. And it's because they're better physically than most of the teams that they're playing against. And it's something that only sort of Lane Kiffin and. And Nick Saban can tell you about as guys who were at Alabama when that was happening. It's super rare for every team in the sport, even the undefeated one, to concede 50 pounds on the line. Indiana's conceding 50 pounds along the defensive line.

[Stugats]

They're incredibly well prepared. They don't make mistakes. They know where stuff is going. They. They make incredible breaks on balls. There's an insane stat. They. They've intercepted the first or second pass of a game four times this season and they admittedly say they don't do the practice on practice field as much. Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, Mike says they're cheating.

[Stugats]

No, Mike doesn't say that they're cheating.

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Stugats]

Who's to say that if they're cheating.

[Zaslo]

I want to know.

[Stugats]

No, I'm just saying the statistical probability that a team inside the Big Ten is doing some sort of espionage is not slimmer than what we've seen, which is a team picking off the first or second pass in a game four times this season.

[Zaslo]

If there's cheating, I need to know going into the game. I can't go in blind.

[Stugats]

People think that doesn't matter. Like, doesn't matter.

[Tony]

My.

[Stugats]

Here, I'll tell everybody.

[Dan LeBatard]

All journalistic credibility and get reckless.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.

[Stugats]

You're good. It's not me. There's other people on the Internet that this has been. Well, they say this has been the thing that's been rumored about Indiana. Like they're so well prepared because they might have an idea of what's going on. That's the hearsay. And I'm here to tell you it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whatsoever. Dan, what do you think Miami's going to do? What do you think Miami is going to do against Indiana?

[Zaslo]

Hit that a gap down.

[Dan LeBatard]

They're going to dominate the ball offensively by caretaking the Football and running the ball.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Right.

[Stugats]

Indiana knows that's coming, and all the teams that have played Miami have known that's coming. So it's. Everyone will look at this. They're already touting what a coaching advantage Indiana has in this. The whispers and stuff. That's. That's something for Indiana to deal with. That's all right. The defensive coordinator already hopped in my mentions. We're okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

The whispers.

[Stugats]

It's good to know that we're already.

[Zaslo]

Defensive coordinator hopped in your defense coordinator for iu.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Zaslo]

Hopped in your mentions.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Zaslo]

What do you say?

[Stugats]

Check for yourself.

[Dan LeBatard]

The whispers. Is that part of the Mike Ryan exclusive information that you give on Twitter for a price every month?

[Stugats]

There is a mental warfare aspect of this that I've been at war for three months, and if those whispers are already reaching that building to the point that the offensive coordinator is hopping in the Menshees. Okay, I'd say that's a big fat mission accomplished.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wait a minute. All right, so you. You skew the lines between journalism and. I want to get into this because we've got another test case here in front of us. Zaslow, I need a ruling from you on whether something else that's gone viral. Ok. Is or isn't journalism? Because we've got a story that a lot of people are talking about. But Mike Ryan is in this weird lane between insider and guy who knows the business and investor in the Hurricanes and information broker, but not tethered to journalism's rules in any way. He's sitting here saying, and I don't know what this is happens to know or what it is. Whispers, whatever it sounds like, he's saying Indiana's cheating and that the defensive coordinators in his men cheese in his DMs. Excuse me. That's different. The mentions are different.

[Stugats]

Menchis are out there for public consumption. Jeremy, as a tweet, little quote tweet.

[Rose]

So Mike tweeted, I'll spare Indiana from the narrative. It's not my place to say if they do or don't, but in case they do, I'll spare them the time and effort and reveal our greatest secret. We're running a gap. And Indiana's defensive coordinator quote, tweeted Mike and said, thank you, sir. We'll meet you there.

[Stugats]

Do you see my response to it?

[Rose]

He says, best of luck, coach. May you continue to catapult your team to new heights.

[Stugats]

Did you get it? Do you get it? If you don't get the catapult reference, that's on you.

[Dan LeBatard]

So Mike Ryan would have you believe during this victory lap of his that he's playing a different game than everyone else. This is going to be really annoying to people who already hate Miami for a number of reasons that are not Mike Ryan. Mike Ryan gets to be not only guy who goes into the championship game being right all season, but he's also telling the defensive coordinator, Indiana and our Heismang, okay, it's coming up the middle, and it's 50 pounds heavier than you.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Now.

[Zaslo]

Now, what does the defense coordinator feel? A little bit above this.

[Stugats]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If you're just trying to. If you're just trying to rile folks up. And inside of 24 hours, the defensive coordinators. Look, Corey Heatherman's not tweeting Mike Epps. That's what I'm telling you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Zaslo, where are we, please, on this journalism story? Oh, Tony's back, though. Wait a minute. What should we do here, Zaslo? Make an executive call here. Should we go to the journalism story of the moment that has gone viral that everyone's talking about, or should we go to Tony outside of plaything journalism? I'm sorry, Tony, Stay right there. Go ahead and put Tony in picture. In picture. Tony, if you want to also just wander around so that we can see your interactions without any sound, that's fine. Zazzle has made his ruling, and he wants to talk journalism instead of Playthings. What is the story, Zaslo? I'm sorry, Tony. I want to. I'm being told he has, like, a.

[Tony]

Guest he was going to bring in.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay?

[Tony]

Now, who cares what Zazzle has to say about journalism?

[Stugats]

Who cares?

[Zaslo]

Who's the guest? The clerk at Playthings?

[Tony]

No. So here's the thing, right? I'm a big. I'm a big proponent of personal freedom, and I think what we're doing out here is wrong, okay? They didn't let us film inside for obvious reasons. People that may be patrons of this establishment want some sort of anonymity, right? They don't want a big camera in the face saying, hey, what do you think about the Canes this week? Right? So there's been multiple people that have been walking out of cars that have looked at me a little funny, and I don't like that. So with that, we're not going to go inside there. Plus, we can't, right? But we will be showing people coming in and out. But we did have come in and say things. I'm heading over there, right Now, I guarantee you there are multiple people sitting in their car right now afraid to.

[Dan LeBatard]

Walk in because the door.

[Zaslo]

I mean, would you.

[Tony]

Yeah, I got no shame in my game. Yeah, no, again.

[Dan LeBatard]

Again. I don't like.

[Tony]

I don't like that. I don't like what we're doing, Chris. I do a cartwheel in there.

[Dan LeBatard]

How I would love the visual of just you striding confidently into a. Into a sex shop. Over Tony's. Over Tony's shoulder. All right, so we're not going to get inside, and you're not going to be able to ask any Hurricanes fans about anything because there are too many people near the sex shop that don't want to be seen. A.

[Tony]

And B, I actually have.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, you can go.

[Tony]

You can go. There's an old lady here trying to get through. Thank you. She was. She was a patron. I don't know if you saw her.

[Dan LeBatard]

Walking through the back.

[Tony]

I have a Hurricanes fan right here. We have a. We have a unit of University of Miami student. Come over here, buddy. What's your name?

[Zaslo]

Oscar.

[Tony]

Oscar, what's up, buddy? He was watching the show, listening to the show, getting ready. He said, oh, they're at playthings. He's like, I live right down the street. I know exactly where that is. So he says he's been to enough games where he's gonna get a free ticket as a student to the Natty. How do you feel about that, buddy?

[Zaslo]

Oh, I'm ecstatic. I just wanted us at the beginning of the season to get into the playoffs, maybe win a game. This is like the craziest thing ever.

[Tony]

What do you think about Mike Ryan? That's enough. Okay, thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

What just happened?

[Tony]

I don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't understand what just happened between him and Mike Ryan. Where are you? Do you not like how Mike Ryan represents.

[Tony]

Cleared his throat.

[Zaslo]

You're embarrassing.

[Stugats]

Get his names.

[Zaslo]

I'm gonna be honest. I don't know who Mike Ryan is.

[Stugats]

Yeah, there we go.

[Zaslo]

Embarrassing.

[Stugats]

Okay, that's Brandon Marshall.

[Tony]

That's fair. That's fair. That's.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

That's a Golden cane.

[Tony]

He says, who. Who are you? Brandon Marshall. He's a golden cane.

[Stugats]

Really?

[Zaslo]

I used to work for the Hurricane Club. I would help out at the Golden Claims. I worked for them for the 24 season.

[Stugats]

This guy's electric Cam Ward.

[Zaslo]

Last year, and I would work game days and I helped in the Golden Canes and in the Champion King.

[Tony]

What do you think about Joe Zagaki again?

[Zaslo]

No clue.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not his fault. I'm done not his fault here. An imposter. Run him off of the street. Get him away from the. The pleasure center.

[Tony]

Ask him about Josh. You gotta go, buddy. I'm sorry. Thank you so much.

[Dan LeBatard]

Get him out of here.

[Tony]

Go Canes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, but you guys are offended.

[Stugats]

Look, yeah, no, he was gonna throw up the Utah Utes one fraud.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, let me. Let me.

[Tony]

You know. Hey, hey, look, he's gonna Google all of them right now. Start with Joe Zagaki, Kane's legend. Kane's voice at. Kane's voice on Twitter.

[Stugats]

If that guy worked in the hurricane, you know.

[Tony]

Hey, look, again. Again, we're trying to teach the younger generation about the things that were handed down to us. That being the void the radio voice of the Miami Hurricanes for multiple sports, by the way, not just football. He does baseball, he does basketball.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's the sale? What's the sale? Play things has got going on. What's the sale they got going on back?

[Tony]

Yeah, they got a nice bogo. They got a nice bogo. I don't know exactly what the bogos are though. Let me see. Hold on, let me walk.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, let's see what this. Let's see what the discount is here.

[Tony]

They also have popsicles. They have popsicles in there. I don't know what. So the guy was. That's about a fan of our show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Doesn't know Michael just wanted to be on television. Tony, go in there and grab a popsicle. Go in there and grab a popsicle.

[Tony]

You want me to go in there and grab a popsicle? Okay. And a Fleshlight sounds so excited about the came in.

[Stugats]

It's unfair to use this voice in.

[Tony]

There and grab a flashlight.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just grab a flash. Just a popsicle. Just grab a popsicle. Thank you.

[Tony]

Okay, let me. Let me. Let me ask if they see if they got it. Okay.

[Stugats]

Bella's got two L's.

[Zaslo]

See if they got it.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's a. There's a big sale going. There's a big sale going on. What is the bit of journalism that we just got overruled by Tony on? We keep him up in the picture.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

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[Tony]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Tony]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Tony]

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[Stugats]

Wow.

[Tony]

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[Stugats]

How about that?

[Tony]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Dan LeBatard.

[Tony]

Cheaters never prosper.

[Stugats]

Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

I ain't cheating.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

This is the Dan lebatar show with the stugats.

[Zaslo]

All right, so this, this is actually a huge story right now. There was NFL playoffs this weekend, which were really fantastic. And the biggest story actually took place in the Jacksonville Jaguars post game press conference. All right, so Dan, check this out. Liam Cohen, he's the head coach of the Jaguars. This is right after loss. Their season is over. And give this a listen here. This is a credentialed reporter and here is her question.

[Dan LeBatard]

I just want to tell you congratulations on your success, young man.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

You hold your head up, all right? You guys have had a most magnificent season.

[Stugats]

Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

You did a great job out there today. So you just hold your head up. Okay? And ladies and gentlemen, Duvall, you the one. All right, Keep it going. We got another season. Okay, take care. Much continued success to you and the entire team.

[Tony]

Thank you, man.

[Zaslo]

This is a very polarizing issue on Twitter right now. Very polarized among journalists.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, I was just a kind, nice lady.

[Tony]

So we play our game. Is that journalism?

[Zaslo]

That's right.

[Dan LeBatard]

So that's our imaging?

[Zaslo]

Yeah, that's it.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, no, I mean that's.

[Tony]

He gives his ruling and then we have.

[Rose]

Can you play It.

[Tony]

One more time is. We can do it together, guys.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is that journalism?

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Journalism?

[Zaslo]

The answer is that Is not journalism.

[Dan LeBatard]

A shocking journalism.

[Zaslo]

Not journalism.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. Truly.

[Zaslo]

Not journalism. That is not journalism. Not journalism.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

You know, in the lexicon you have unk. That was an auntie. Gotta listen to the auntie.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just a lovely woman coming and offering perspective and not journalism. Nice energy, though. It doesn't. It's just. She brought a little kindness. His offseason is going to be rough.

[Zaslo]

And people got mad. It really fanned the flames when Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter tweeted out. He, quote, tweeted that video, and he tweeted out, this is an awesome exchange between the reporter and Liam Cohen. And then everyone. All the journalists, they got mad.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, it's not that either.

[Zaslo]

Not journalism.

[Dan LeBatard]

Journalism. But it's also not an awesome exchange. It's just a woman being nice.

[Zaslo]

Schefter thinks it's awesome.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not that, either.

[Zaslo]

Not journalism.

[Dan LeBatard]

You mentioned that. Stop badgering me with that.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Encouraging.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's not encouraging. Where's Tony? Let's see what Tony's doing. Tony continues to be outside. Did you grab a journalist? I got it. I got it.

[Tony]

Did not grab a Popsicle. Damn. But miracle. Okay, I went inside, talked to the nice lady at the front. We're going inside.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Let's go.

[Tony]

Oh.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now we're. Now we're getting somewhere. All right, so, Tony. More so, Tony, just walk around, and if you want to interact with anybody, you can, but. But also, just give us all your.

[Zaslo]

Foot, all your furries.

[Dan LeBatard]

Give us all your football takes as you wander around in there. Just all of them.

[Tony]

Okay. All right, we'll start. We'll start. It's a Halloween show. We'll start in the NFL. It's. It's a bit of a mix. Like, they got costumes, they got certain things going on here.

[Dan LeBatard]

Obviously, you know, Tony, just plow ahead, and if there's anything you want to interact with, you interact. But in the interim, just give me football analysis, please. Nothing else.

[Tony]

Yeah. Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Here's your big moment, Tony.

[Tony]

The Rams. Yeah, yeah, the Rams, I think, like we talked about, could be one of the best teams in the NFL, but they have a weird thing with the Panthers where they just kind of can't figure them out. I don't know if it's that the Panthers have their number or if Stafford just doesn't like playing in Carolina. I don't know what it is. But now that the Panthers are out of the way, I think the Rams can go on a run. What do we think about this bow and arrow? It's a little cow girl situation there. I don't know. There's a lot of costumes here. A lot of costumes. Ben Johnson is probably one of the biggest winners not only of the. Of the weekend, but the entire season. Because when you have somebody who goes inter division and then all of a sudden can do what he can do. Here, hold this for a second. When somebody can do what he can do, which is basically completely flip.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think you're using that right.

[Tony]

More quiet.

[Rose]

What?

[Dan LeBatard]

Are you being reprimanded?

[Tony]

That holster.

[Dan LeBatard]

Something else. You're being reprimanded.

[Tony]

No, no, I was. I was told. I was told to not to. Not things. Which is fine. We're in the costume section. Which is perfectly fine. No, what I was going to say was not only do you have the. The plus of taking away a divisional opponent's best asset. Because they told me to be more quiet. There's people actually patrons of the store that are looking for stuff.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think that that mask is supposed to go over eyes. Over your eyes. I think you're wearing that. Yeah.

[Zaslo]

Look a little like the Hamburglar.

[Tony]

What though they have. They have a picture of it. People over their face.

[Stugats]

You can't just put that back.

[Tony]

Multiple uses.

[Zaslo]

Yeah, you own that now.

[Stugats]

That's yours.

[Tony]

No, no, I'm not buying.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Yeah, you can't.

[Dan LeBatard]

You can't put that back. Somebody else didn't want to wear that. Be smelling your fumes in that.

[Tony]

Oh, I could. Oh, I could. I could put this back in a second. What are you talking about?

[Stugats]

That's gross.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, don't do that. People have been wearing that thing for 16.

[Stugats]

We approve it.

[Rose]

What?

[Tony]

What do you think? There's. There's rules here.

[Dan LeBatard]

What can you show? He just said it's a no. Hold.

[Tony]

I can't show the obvious thing. Well, I can't show the obvious. I've been already told by. By the higher ups. I didn't confirm. Nor did I. We did two shows on that a few weeks ago.

[Stugats]

You can, you can sell them at a cvs, but you can't. You can't.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think it's porn. It can't be any sex toy related things. He can't televise.

[Tony]

No, no, it is. It is. No, no, it is. It is. It is St related. It's absolutely ST related.

[Dan LeBatard]

Rose told me.

[Tony]

Hey, you can't do that. So. Okay. Do what?

[Stugats]

All right, St. Let's keep bringing down the playoffs.

[Tony]

Sex toy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Keep giving us your football analysis. Were you done with Ben Johnson or do you have more. What is that?

[Tony]

I have a clown horn.

[Dan LeBatard]

What is that? It's a clown horn.

[Tony]

Also, Dan, don't think you have the right use for that either.

[Stugats]

Where does that go?

[Tony]

It's 7.99.

[Stugats]

You became John Madden all of a sudden.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's such a great bit sexual job you did.

[Tony]

Okay, so the best thing about Ben Johnson is leaving the. The Lions in a lurch, going over to Chicago saying that he hates Matt LaFleur for some oblivious reason, we have no idea why, and then beating him and then giving him the handshake of like, see you later.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's so good. It's so good. The Bears coach does not respect the packers coach and came close to getting him fired. Brutal questions. Whoa. Because I missed that. Cuz you never see that. Am I wrong or overreacting when I say that's one of the great football collapses of all time in the playoffs?

[Zaslo]

I mean, points wise. Yeah. They were up by 15 in the fourth quarter.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Paint the picture, Tony. All right. No, no, I. We're. We're walking through more of. How do I say it? A bit of. More of like 50 shades of gray situation on this side, if you catch my drift. Which put something behind you if you want to take those for a walk.

[Stugats]

All right.

[Dan LeBatard]

One more football take. You have earned one more football take. Be careful. Don't show anybody on camera.

[Rose]

That's Rose.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, that's just Rose. Okay.

[Tony]

No, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

Does Rose have any thoughts? Does Rose have any thoughts? Any?

[Tony]

She can't be enjoying it.

[Stugats]

I'm sure she has a few thoughts.

[Dan LeBatard]

50 off.

[Tony]

Dan.

[Stugats]

Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a blowout sale.

[Tony]

Your interest.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, my God. Give me a couple of those.

[Tony]

Blow out.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

Wait a second.

[Tony]

Do you want. Do you want these?

[Stugats]

Do you want the crafty into this section right here?

[Tony]

Oh, I got. I got. I got Dan's kit, the wizard kit. Dan, you show up in the wizard kit, you're gonna dominate.

[Dan LeBatard]

I should do the live stream dressed as the sexual wizard. Bring me one of those costumes back here so that we can a week from now build up to. To this purchased. Get my size, Tony. Make sure to get my size.

[Tony]

Thank you. What size is that?

[Dan LeBatard]

Are you gonna. Are you gonna go over to Columbus?

[Tony]

No, no, I'm not going to Columbus.

[Dan LeBatard]

Today because I think it'd be funny if you got picked up by a school with some of these things in your car.

[Zaslo]

Tell them play things, let you in. Why won't Columbus?

[Tony]

Would that be funny to you?

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, enough.

[Stugats]

It's a good point, actually. The feelers.

[Tony]

The feelers have been out there. We're looking at maybe Wednesday or Thursday being able to do something at Columbus. I've already got boots on the ground working things out. So. Again, Dan, is there any other costume you would like that would make sense?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, they have a count.

[Tony]

Would you want to be account?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, just. I. I don't want you to.

[Zaslo]

Count.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's that, Rose?

[Tony]

He's right about that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Did you just do the count from Sesame Street? Was that just your count from Sesame street in person?

[Zaslo]

Another count.

[Dan LeBatard]

Tony, thank you for your report from over there. Thank you for your bravery and journalism. And you did much better journalism than that woman in Jacksonville. Thank you for being on with us. Hey, Go Dolphins. What's that? What did you. Oh, is that a Go Dolphin thong?

[Tony]

No, it's a. It's a garland. They're selling garlands here now, so should be a thong. That's nice. Your head's in the right spot, Dan. I can bring this back for you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, actually now, you see, Tony, you laugh. But my next step on this, I'll keep escalating this so that ultimately you're just doing a report wearing nothing but that outside of some place like Bird bowl in Miami. Like, I'll keep escalating this if you want. Like if. Do you realize what a payoff it would be if it. If at the live stream you debuted nude reporter Tony reporting live off the cane journalism. Bad idea. Thank you, Tony. Appreciate the time. Appreciate the reports. Get into Columbus before the end of the week.

[Tony]

Okay, I will.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

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[Rose]

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[Stugats]

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[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog here live from Meadowlock Media Studios here in Miami.

[Stugats]

Stugats. The Germans are advancing on France in World War II.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Dan LeBatard]

Again, I'm gonna just say to all of you, I don't think I have this wrong, right? Batshit crazy football week over the last week that that makes the sport continue to rise and pop where you don't think the games can get any better or more dramatic or tenser. And one story you got that just sort of spills off to the side of our show is, whoa, what a bad ending for A.J. brown in Philadelphia. Like what a.

[Zaslo]

He's definitely done there, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

But what a terrible way for all of that to escalate. Like we, we burned through these guys pretty good, right? Like Todd Worley. It's not that long ago that he was playing football like and was a key to the championship with the Rams and then gets hurt and Belichick wins 13 to 3 and it sends Jared Goff somewhere else. And then the whole league changes over the next few years. You have these small windows in which to win. They're not. These guys get burned up. Lamar Jackson's not the player that he was already. That happened very fast. Justin Herbert, they're going to get him killed in Los Angeles because these rock hard specimens who collide for a living and train their muscled bodies to make violent collisions. These people who are maniacal about winning and at almost any physical cost, they're caring deeply. Nobody questions load management here, right? They're caring deeply on every Sunday and Monday and every weekend they exceed our expectations. Where the Rams. What I'm telling you is I believe the best team in the league is laboring like that against what I believe empirically, mathematically through point differential is the worst NFL playoff team there's ever been in the Carolina Panthers. Minus 69 or whatever. 67 for the season. That game is that. And it then it just kicks off a crazy weekend that has you disappointed because Patriots. Chargers. Wasn't that. Patriot Chargers in the second half is just one healthier team grinding to dust an unhealthier one. Because nobody can be what the 49ers are. We overcome all injuries under all circumstance, no one understands how we do it. All our stars can be physically unable to perform. And as an added bonus, Trent Williams can be washed. And we're going into Philadelphia and we're beating Lane Johnson and we're ending Sirianni's season with him on the sidelines explaining why him and AJ Brown are yelling at each other. And that's one soap opera gone. And it was a perfect football week for drama, for storylines, for stakes, for close games. For Josh Allen overcoming Jacksonville, for it ending that way where Josh Allen is the veteran now and Trevor Lawrence has to learn some things about what you do with 59 seconds because Josh Allen saw what Mahomes did with 13 of them.

[Zaslo]

Can I ask you. And you saw it here if you were watching the game where Sirianni and AJ Brown got into it and you know, Big Dom comes running in and he separates the two of them. Big Dom's the security guard. Remember he got thrown out of a game last year. Big Dom wears a headset during the game.

[Stugats]

What is that? I think he got promoted.

[Zaslo]

Offense coordinator.

[Stugats]

No, no, I think he's on like proper staff now.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's your takeaway from all of this? Yes, sir. That's your takeaway from the A.J. brown Experience in Philadelphia where we've watched somebody be a very, a very good to great receiver for two different teams the last time. Well, he, yes, he was awful yesterday.

[Stugats]

Were allowed because, you know, it all works when you're winning championships. But it's been an exhausting season dealing with A.J. brown's constant.

[Zaslo]

And he dropped like a 25 yard pass right over the middle in the fourth quarter.

[Stugats]

Yeah, I mean, this stuff is unsettling to a team and it was unsettling last year and they found a way to navigate through it. But the charm wears off when you start dropping those 20 yard passes that impact your season.

[Dan LeBatard]

I actually heard the announcer and I don't remember because I was listening to it in my car. I heard the announcer go immediately on one of the drops to, you're paid too much money to drop that football. Like go straight to that because whatever. A.J. brown, man, it must be unpleasant to be A.J. brown at the center of that particular fan base when it feels entitled to excellence and likes the way Jason Kelsey represents the brand better than AJ Brown. Those two drops as punctuation on his career are the worst possible punctuation. He would have been better off being physically hurt in the game than leaving Philadelphia that way where at the end they can say, oh, good riddance, man. You've been this all season when that guy Zaslow, when he was in Tennessee, was the last player in Tennessee who mattered. Legitimate receiver, superstar, somehow in Tennessee, goes over to Philadelphia, gets some of the popularity of Saquon Barkley in the short time that he was there at the beginning. Because who doesn't love somebody who can physically be bigger and better at wide receiver than everyone else and then burned it all down throughout the entirety of this season.

[Stugats]

I totally understand going at A.J. brown. Jalen hurts. His performance maybe looks a little bit better. Maybe they win that game if AJ Brown makes a couple of plays. The thing that fascinates me about the Eagle season is how Jalen hurts, can go multiple second halfs without completing a pass. How. How he's become basically a running quarterback. Both college that you're hoping can throw an accurate pass. He's trying to play like Tim Tebow.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys saw the stats. Look, if I make you this scared of the turnover, okay. I mean think about what we're talking about in Philadelphia. Their coach is a meathead and they've won for several years now and dragged a pretty good Chiefs team because they're more physical than everyone in the sport when they're healthy at the tush push is an unstoppable play. Pretty giant advantage in a sport where the margins are this small. And you see how many 4th and shorts are missed or how many 4th and twos people have to throw for because the chargers can't get 2 yards. But these people can just every time make a drive something that is four downs. We can get 10 yards because we'll get it to third and fourth and one and then we'll just punch you in the face. That style of football over two seasons when Lane Johnson has played has been like some ridiculous 40 and 2 or whatever. And what it's done is it's made that team so afraid of the turnover because the turnover, the feeling is the only thing that can beat us. Our defense is good enough that we will continue to punch you in the face. And. And they had more three and outs than any team in the sport this year. Because while even Carolina's going forward on every fourth down and Carolina is playing reckless football, the Philadelphia Eagles are playing scared champion protect the football. Football because they want to believe in their defense and what's left of their ability to beat you on third and fourth and one with these plays, these stupidities that change the balance of the game are in football are going to get the rules changed on them. But they if not dominating an era. They won a whole lot because they had a play that was more physical than anyone else in football.

[Rose]

I've got a top five sexual things Dan has said since we left Tony at playthings.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can we do that while we go to Tony checking out now he's checked.

[Tony]

Out and Tony's gone.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, I missed my window there.

[Rose]

Number five too bad rams.

[Tony]

Number four.

[Rose]

Minus 69 point I picked up on that. Number three grinding number two these rock hard men. Number one load management.

[Zaslo]

All in like.

[Tony]

A three minute span right after we.

[Rose]

Let him 90 seconds.

[Don LeBatard Kirby the Frog]

You said overcome as well you cooking.

[Stugats]

We can stop with the tush push stuff too, right? I didn't touch push because I think they said the sad like it did been six of the last 10 that they had successfully converted onto tush push which means they're being stopped when Lane Johnson isn't in there. Their entire team is impacted and it's not the unstoppable play that you guys made it out to be anymore.

[Dan LeBatard]

Trent Williams being washed is not something that I had. And I will ask you again, please, all you people analyzing football all over America and many of you are doing it so very well. Chris Long, Dominique Foxworth, Mina Kimes. Please, please explain to me how it is because the entire sport has changed where you have all of these people going for it on fourth down and you're getting the ball at the 35 yard line and the game has a Cam Little in it who yesterday misses for the first time in 20 times. But you have the margins being this small and you have the ability with all of the precisions that you have there for the games to be so close as to be crazy, right? That you that the Rams and Carolina are playing that football game twice. Twice where any, any bounce changes the result of that game. The Philadelphia Eagles have been better than everyone physically in that sport for two seasons. This year they went three and out more than any sport, any team in the sport. And Mike is sitting here telling you really, we're going to keep putting Jalen Hurts in more of a. More of a box. A.J. brown's going to get frustrated by that and then A.J. brown is going to have that game to punctuate his career. How is it that the Philadelphia Eagles collapse on their face here and we still expected them to get to the super bowl based on toughness without understanding that if you're trying to be physical for something that is two seasons more physical than everyone else in a sport like that, the wheels have to come off of that. Like you can't keep being more physical than everyone in that sport. Play more games than everyone in that sport. Do more tush pushes than anyone in that sport. Like you're going to run through the bodies if AJ Brown eventually is going to Somebody explained to me how it isn't just understood. Well, of course their offense is less than it was because how many times do you want to run Saquon Barkley? Like how many times do you want to keep doing this before the wheels fall off the thing? When I just saw what happened to Harbaugh. Harbaugh. It's not a collapse of genius there. His offensive line didn't and shouldn't have been in the playoffs. That's not a playoff offensive line there shouldn't. But if you're going to be fit, if the game is to be more physical, 4 out of 10, 4 out 4 plays in 10 yards, ZAZ. If that's because everyone's going to be a buck fifty, I'm going to go for it on third and four. All I need to do is get five yards here. If that's how we're going to play football. How do more people not understand that the Philadelphia Eagles are dead today because all of their bodies gave out. If Kevin Durant's body falls apart at the end of those four years, this sport is more physical than any of them.