Hour 1: Shut Up and Clean

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hour 1: Shut Up and Clean
Release Date: July 14, 2025

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I. The Hierarchy of Insults: Baloney, Bullshit, Horseshit
Timestamp: 01:13 – 04:35

The episode kicks off with a lively debate on the nuances of colloquial insults, specifically focusing on the terms "baloney," "bullshit," and "horseshit." Stugotz introduces the concept of a hierarchical structure where each term represents a different level of disbelief or frustration.

• Stugotz explains, "That's baloney, bullshit, and horseshit. And that's it. That's the gold, silver, and bronze medalist." (02:32)

• Dan Le Batard adds his perspective, distinguishing between the terms: "Bullshit is when you get unlucky with something. Horseshit is when someone does something to you like, that was horseshit." (02:12)

• Greg Cody emphasizes the disbelief expressed by "full of baloney," describing it as "an informal expression used to express disbelief or dismiss something as untrue or ridiculous." (02:18)

The discussion delves into the origins and appropriate usage of each term, with humorous interjections highlighting the group's camaraderie and differing viewpoints.

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II. Mascots and Stage Falls: Mr. Met’s Misadventures
Timestamp: 04:35 – 08:35

Transitioning from linguistic debates, the hosts shift focus to the amusing spectacle of mascots falling off stages, using Mr. Met’s antics at a Lumineers concert as a prime example.

• Stugotz muses, "One of the great delights of summer entertainment is just watching people fall off stages." (04:02)

• Mike Ryan describes the scenario: "Well, he's dressed like a member of the Lumineers. That's because he's at a Lumineers concert." (04:44)

The conversation highlights the physical challenges mascots face while performing, especially in elaborate costumes that limit vision and mobility. The hosts humorously critique the safety measures, suggesting that while the padding might prevent serious injury, the gimmickry adds an element of risk and entertainment.

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III. Lionel Messi’s Performance in MLS
Timestamp: 13:33 – 20:04

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing Lionel Messi's exceptional performance in Major League Soccer (MLS) despite his advancing age.

• Stugotz shares his admiration: "37 year old Lionel Messi is scoring two goals a game against young hungry kids." (16:52)

• Billy Corben highlights Messi’s consistency: "He's got 16 goals in 16 MLS matches. That's in any credible league that's noteworthy." (19:59)

The hosts discuss whether Messi remains the best player in the world, considering his stats and the evolution of sports science. They compare his longevity and performance to other athletes like Tom Brady and LeBron James, noting Messi's unique ability to maintain elite status. The debate also touches on the influence of team dynamics in MLS and how Messi's presence elevates his team's performance against ostensibly less competitive opponents.

Notable Quote:

• Stugotz: "At age 39 a year from now, he's going to be close enough to the best in the world to be the best player or the key player for a great Argentina team. It's incredible." (18:13)

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IV. Life Advice: Handling a Teenager’s UFC Fight Plans
Timestamp: 21:02 – 24:35

In a relatable segment, Greg Cody seeks advice on managing his 16-year-old son's unexpected decision to pursue a UFC fight in Chicago without prior discussion.

• Greg Cody recounts, "I lost my parent handbook, so I don't have the answers to everything." (21:02)

• Stugotz asks, "Are your kids of an age where they think you're their buddy more than their dad?" (22:42)

The hosts provide thoughtful and humorous strategies on setting boundaries while maintaining a positive relationship with teenagers. They emphasize the importance of clear communication and the challenges parents face when navigating their children's ambitions and independence.

Notable Quote:

• Greg Cody: "We avoid being the bad guys. I know there's a lot of pushback where it's like, why are you afraid of being the bad guy?" (21:08)

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V. Algorithms and Social Media Addiction
Timestamp: 33:01 – 40:10

The discussion pivots to the pervasive influence of algorithms on social media and the concept of combating addiction through innovative (and sometimes controversial) app ideas.

• Stugotz introduces the idea: "Does that seem like a successful App idea. One that merges the addiction you have with your phone to a demand for presence that will have exercise in it every time you get onto Instagram." (34:06)

• Billy Corben criticizes the concept: "Hypocritical app dumb." (34:44)

The group debates the effectiveness and ethical implications of forcing physical activity as a barrier to social media usage. They explore the tension between technological solutions to addiction and the potential for such measures to be seen as intrusive or ineffective.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Ryan: "You want to approach social media and your addiction to your device on some sort of moral high ground because you don't like that you've given yourself over to this addiction." (40:44)

• Billy Corben: "It's an algorithm. It's an invasion of privacy." (35:00)

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VI. Additional Highlights

• Concert Experiences:
  Timestamp: 32:30 – 33:42
  Mike Ryan shares his experience attending a Ghost concert, highlighting the unique policy of no phone usage and the impressive stage production. The hosts appreciate the immersive nature of such performances and discuss the broader trend of enhancing live entertainment experiences.

• Humorous Interactions:
  Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in playful banter and humorous storytelling, such as Greg Cody’s anecdote about Mike Ditka and interactions regarding personal experiences with overly talkative dentists.

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VII. Conclusion
The episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" titled "Shut Up and Clean" offers a blend of insightful discussions and lighthearted moments. From dissecting colloquial insults and marveling at athletic longevity to navigating parenthood and critiquing technological interventions in daily life, the hosts provide a rich and engaging narrative. Notable for their chemistry and ability to tackle diverse subjects with humor and depth, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz deliver a comprehensive conversation that appeals to both regular listeners and newcomers.

Final Notable Quote:

• Stugotz: "I'm just your app friends." (41:04)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Stugotz: "That's baloney, bullshit, and horseshit. And that's it. That's the gold, silver, and bronze medalist." (02:32)

• Stugotz: "One of the great delights of summer entertainment is just watching people fall off stages." (04:02)

• Stugotz: "37 year old Lionel Messi is scoring two goals a game against young hungry kids." (16:52)

• Greg Cody: "We avoid being the bad guys. I know there's a lot of pushback where it's like, why are you afraid of being the bad guy?" (21:08)

• Stugotz: "Does that seem like a successful App idea ...?" (34:06)

• Billy Corben: "Hypocritical app dumb." (34:44)

• Mike Ryan: "You want to approach social media and your addiction to your device on some sort of moral high ground..." (40:44)

• Stugotz: "I'm just your app friends." (41:04)

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This detailed summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't tuned in.

Transcript

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[Stugotz]

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[Stugotz]

Ba da ba ba ba. This is the Dunn Levator show with the Stugats podcast. As he got more and more agitated earlier, Greg Cody eventually blurted, that's baloney. And when you're getting more and more agitated and you want to dismiss someone, I'd like the escalating tears of the things that you say is bullshit higher than horseshit? Bullshit and horseshit are the highest of the indignant is here. But baloney, Baloney is mid tier. Right? And I'm assuming that it's just because baloney is made out of all the other meats and is a bunch of crap thrown together.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, that's the origin of the phrase, actually, because it's just a crap meat with a bunch of Stu into it.

[Dan Le Batard]

To me, bullshit is when you get unlucky with something. Horseshit is when someone does something to you like, that was horseshit. Bullshit is like, that was unlucky.

[Greg Cody]

Full of baloney is an informal expression used to express disbelief or dismiss something as untrue or ridiculous.

[Billy Corben]

Let's not forget chicken shit. Okay, that's not.

[Stugotz]

No, that's different.

[Tony]

That's different.

[Stugotz]

That's not. I think you and Chris are making distinctions that aren't necessary when you're doing the hierarchy of these things, it escalates from baloney to horseshit to bullshit. Correct.

[Mike Ryan]

It's kind of funny that the shit variants, they're all farm animals.

[Stugotz]

Horseshit might be higher than bullshit. Now that it comes out of my mouth, I think something like, if you're indignant about something that someone has said, what are the other phrases you would use? Other than. Yeah, I mean, from your time, it's, you know, poppycock or malarkey or that phraseology. What is all we.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, come on.

[Chris Cody]

Is all we've got. All we've got is now.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, come on.

[Chris Cody]

The podcast all we've got these days.

[Stugotz]

Is baloney, bullshit, and horseshit. And that's it. That's the gold, silver, and bronze medalist.

[Billy Corben]

I think baloney may have derived from the word blarney. Okay. That's my understanding.

[Stugotz]

I don't think that's true at all.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I think it is. But here's the thing. Don't disrespect bologna, okay? I grew up poor at 1440. Shit's gross. We used to eat bologna sandwiches, okay? We would fry the bologna in a pan, and we would have two slices per sandwich with some mustard. And it was delicious. Absolutely delicious. A bologna sandwich. So when I say full of bologna, I don't mean to denigrate the meat.

[Dan Le Batard]

You mean as a compliment.

[Billy Corben]

Yes.

[Stugotz]

You don't mean it as a compliment.

[Mike Ryan]

This is a really good podcast.

[Billy Corben]

Full of bologna.

[Mike Ryan]

Just you and your mustache talking, espousing the virtues of bologna.

[Stugotz]

I'm in Full of Bologna with Lawrence Maroney.

[Mike Ryan]

I just would listen to this. We should send this clip out of him just talking about baloney. Let's try to get more young listeners.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, let's play. Let's play for the video audience. And we will try and talk the audio audience through this. One of the great delights of summer entertainment is just watching people fall off stages. Like, I could do it for hours. It's wonderful video. We could consume it together here. It happened to Mr. Met, and I would imagine and unthought about consequence of being a mascot is that peripheral vision and up down vision might be difficult because you're wearing a giant costume. And so Mr. Met is doing what here on a. What concert is he at here?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, he's dressed like a member of the Lumineers. That's because he's at a Lumineers concert.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do like the idea of mascots having favorite bands.

[Billy Corben]

I do, too.

[Mike Ryan]

And while there are pitfalls, no doubt peripheral vision being one of them, there Are also some benefits, like if you fall off stage, you have a cushioned blow.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Lots of padding.

[Stugotz]

Do we have another angle of this? Because I want to go through a handful of people falling off of stages.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is not just him fought like his head hits the side of the stage as he falls. That makes this more painful.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. And I don't think.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, oh, yeah.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, my.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, hey.

[Mike Ryan]

Honestly.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Popped right up.

[Stugotz]

That could have been a concussion. But he's got so much padding. That's the helmet to us.

[Chris Cody]

Should use.

[Stugotz]

There's a lot of padding there.

[Billy Corben]

A Mr. Methead.

[Stugotz]

That would be great.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nothing better than you're walking and the floor is not there anymore.

[Mike Ryan]

Really surprised the Lumineers can sell out a baseball.

[Stugotz]

Let me.

[Chris Cody]

Let me play some other people falling off of stages. And let me send you guys one, because you sent me a couple here.

[Stugotz]

I asked for a list, and you.

[Chris Cody]

Guys sent me Kelsey Grammer and Travis Scott. But the one I was thinking of is Mike Ditka. So I'm going to send this to you guys now, and let's see if I can top what you guys have with what I have here.

[Stugotz]

But let's not go to mine immediately with Mike Ditka and Paul Horning. Let's go. Let's escalate to that. You guys say Kelsey Grammer fell off a stage. What is the backstory here? Does anyone have any context on what's happening here with Frazier?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't understand where Frazier is, why he's speaking, but just said he's on a stage. And let's enjoy.

[Stugotz]

All right. Trip through It's a Small World, pretending I was a UN Interpreter.

[Mike Ryan]

One more time. Let's rewrack that. Let's. We reacted with the fall, but he also says he falls one more time.

[Stugotz]

Please Trip through It's a Small World, pretending I was a UN Interpreter.

[Billy Corben]

Good Lord. Wow.

[Chris Cody]

It's pretty good. I'm gonna.

[Greg Cody]

Why is there a trap door in the middle of stage?

[Chris Cody]

Mr. Men is saying the same thing. Let's see.

[Billy Corben]

Poor grammar.

[Chris Cody]

Now, Travis Scott's energy, I imagine, would often take him off stage a little.

[Stugotz]

Bit dangerous when he gets momentum going.

[Billy Corben]

That's right.

[Tony]

So he's on stage, he's walking.

[Stugotz]

Oh, but here's the problem.

[Tony]

We got auto tune rolling, and then all of a sudden, the trap door opens.

[Billy Corben]

Like.

[Mike Ryan]

No, Love the auto tune.

[Tony]

Can we hit it one more time?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Tony]

To be honest, for the people that aren't watching on video, it's dark, it's.

[Dan Le Batard]

Red there's a hole in the middle of the stage.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, he's getting hurt about his shows for a change.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. I don't know that I can top that, but I do remember on Highly Questionable, we were always playing this funny video of Mike Ditkus. Let's see if I could top you guys.

[Billy Corben]

The golden boy, Paul Horny.

[Greg Cody]

Why did that guy push?

[Dan Le Batard]

He got pushed.

[Billy Corben]

Down goes Frazier for the audio audience. So he.

[Dan Le Batard]

He stands up the. The desk, the table falls off the stage, and Dick is still standing. And for some reason, he just gets pushed.

[Chris Cody]

That was Paul Horning who was mad. Who was mad at Ditko and was teasing. And that's what could have happened to Wayne Newton in Las Vegas if Tony hadn't. Hadn't saved him heroically.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me see this again.

[Billy Corben]

The golden boy, Paul Horny, stands up.

[Greg Cody]

Table falls.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dick is still standing.

[Chris Cody]

Shoved off the wonder.

[Stugotz]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

Dooley, that's an assault.

[Tony]

You got out.

[Billy Corben]

Down goes Frazier.

[Dan Le Batard]

I love the music here.

[Billy Corben]

Down, Frazier.

[Chris Cody]

Always funny. Am I right?

[Billy Corben]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

Getting back to what it is that.

[Stugotz]

Cody was saying, objecting to Misarowski being in the all star game. Five games. I'm going to give you the list of players that have been in the all star game this early. Well, no one's been this early, but with the least number of games played. So Skeens, 11 games is what he had played. Mark Fidric in 1973, the Bird Birdman, 13 games. Hideo Nomo, 13 games. And Dontrell Willis, 15 games. So in every instance, it's one of these flash phenomenon. It's always the same thing. It's always a pitcher.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but 10, 11, 15, these are like half a season's worth. Like, that's a number. That's a big number of starts.

[Stugotz]

But they're all pitchers. They're all novelty pitchers. Last one I mentioned there, my surprise is that Fernando Valenzuela isn't on the list as just an unusual novelty. That's a bit of a circus act that you're giving a space for because you don't need, you know, the 25th guy.

[Greg Cody]

I wonder, though, because Mazarovsky was named as a replacement. Like, were those other pitchers where they voted in the regular process, or were they also named as replacements?

[Stugotz]

I don't have an answer to your question. I am sorry.

[Billy Corben]

The good question. Well done.

[Stugotz]

We don't have that many novelties across sports because Jeremy Lin was this. In basketball, who are the ones who are. Who are these little. I mean, I guess Josh Allen were spoiled by what it is that that's doing at quarterback. You're now used to it. But when you're talking about a phenomenon, somebody who comes onto the scene and is different than everyone else, how many chances at that do you ever get in sports?

[Billy Corben]

I mean, the All Star Game would be the portal for that, right? Because so many players bow out with fake injuries. They love to be named to an All Star team, but they don't like to actually play in the game that you have people like this waiting in line to be named. They're not necessarily worthy, but they're waiting in line. And you see the same thing with the Pro bowl in the NFL, players who are undeserving end up saying, can say, I made a Pro Bowl. Why? Because nine other guys had head colds.

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Ler show with the st.

[Stugotz]

I'm surprised that I haven't gotten to this earlier, and I apologize that I didn't get to this earlier. So, somewhat quietly, I guess, behind a paywall, Lionel Messi, in five straight games has scored two goals. That's not something that's ever happened before in mls. In fact, I don't think four had happened before in mls. He is an old player. I don't know how much precedent there is for a player that age remaining the best player in the world. Even if you don't think that he's the best player in the world because you don't believe in MLS's competition. As recently as a year ago, he was the best player in the world. And it's not like he's. It's not like he's slowed in any appreciable way, any. When Zlatan is going out and watching Inter Miami, he's saying that, I came to see Messi and he's playing with a bunch of statues. No one around him knows how to move. He's the only one who's moving. How is he doing that at that age? I don't, I don't want to be spoiled when the Immortals sort of remain immortal, but we were talking last week about Kirk Cousins and how it went from hundred million dollar quarterback to Euro backup in six games. And Mike Ryan pointed out correctly, yeah, that's when that happens. At about that age, Messi's age. At about that age. That's when it always happens to quarterbacks, except for Tom Brady, all of them 37 years old, you will see numerically the spike. Tom Brady is a total outlier. But all of aging and science has changed. Diana Taurasi is over here playing in her 40s. LeBron James is playing in his 40s in a way that makes no physical sense. That what LeBron James still being statistically the player that he is numerically makes no fundamental sense to anyone who has ever watched sports or the aging process. 37 year old Lionel Messi is scoring two goals a game against young hungry kids.

[Chris Cody]

That's crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, against kids that can run. MLS is athletic and it doesn't really matter now. I don't think he's the best player in the world anymore. And I think you can just point to the competition because you have no real way to measure it. However, he was just in the club World cup and he was doing it against Porto, he was doing it against European teams, he was doing it against big Brazilian sides. He couldn't do it against psg. He ran up against a PSG team that had prior to this final, one of the craziest dominant runs in the history of world football. But he's still very good. And when Argentina plays international games, he's still the talisman. He's still what everything goes through. Everything is for Messi to eat and get his and they know that that is their most successful pathway to victory. He is still an elite talent. I don't know if he's best in the world anymore again because the measuring sticks have changed, which will be curious to see if he does have a decision to make. His contract is up here in December. That's when the MLS season ends. Is he going to rest before the World cup being he's at his age and just play international duty? Or is he going to go to another club to remain sharp? And if he goes to another club, where will that other club be located and what kind of competition will he be going up against?

[Stugotz]

Greg, the thing that I'm marveling at that as someone who has watched sports all his life and is having difficulty with how it is that some of these guys and women age in sports in general. It's such survival of the fittest, young people, hungrier people are always coming at the champion whose hunger can be dissipated over time. How could it not be? Messi has won everything there is to win. Like 20 year olds chasing you down and him still being better than them in a way that Mike is saying, well, he might not be the best player in the world anymore. Well, who cares when that's what you're talking about when he's this age, if.

[Chris Cody]

He'S the first best, the ninth best, the 18th best.

[Stugotz]

The way that these things cycle in sports, right. We just, we're talking about Najee Harris two, three years. This is, this is your prime. You got two or three years. You got two or three years. And there are veterans and there are people who can take care of their bodies. But staying on top when it's always young people coming to try and knock you off. And it would only make sense for Messi, if not to get tired or old, to get bored, to get bored in a way that would make him not be able to be better than faster people who are more athletic than him.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I would never include boredom among among the pitfalls for him. He turned 38 a few weeks ago. It was right around the time he began this five match, two game, two goals, every single game for five in a row, even against MLS. That's a fabulous record setting trend. And at age 39 a year from now, he's going to be close enough to the best in the world to be the best player or the key player for a great Argentina team. It's incredible. It's an anomaly. But I don't see much regression in his game. And I worried, as Inter Miami fans, I'm sure did, two or three years ago when he came here. I worried that they were signing an over the hill player, that he was coming here as a vacation.

[Stugotz]

That's how it's always been at the end of the careers with Pele or anybody else who was coming over to save soccer, it was always the tattered remains of what those legends used to be.

[Mike Ryan]

Zlatan changed the narrative a little bit because he rolled in here and he dominated. And then he went back to Europe and he's still scoring at a decent output while still making fun of mls. And he doesn't ever miss an opportunity to make fun of what he thinks of mls. But we'll say that these, this run of braces for Messi, they're coming in a lot of 2:1 games like they are grinding these things out. And the best player that has ever entered this league is literally winning them their games. He's all their output and he did so in the club World cup too, against international competition. Incredible. An incredible player still.

[Billy Corben]

He's got 16 goals in 16 MLS matches. That's in any credible league that's noteworthy. I mean, that is fantastic.

[Stugotz]

Tied for the league League with Sam Surridge of Nashville.

[Billy Corben]

Wow. Nice. Nice factoid.

[Stugotz]

Where'd that come from?

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[Stugotz]

The Miami Herald, who is a source of constant frustration and entitlement and narcissism. This is what he says. This is either the last back in my day as a regular series or the first of a new phase in which back in my days are occasional, not every week. So he has just announced officially his laziness stugats. I want to make him an occasional series.

[Billy Corben]

I am once a week.

[Stugotz]

But no, I think more occasional. I think every time you don't have a back in my day, you can't do the show.

[Billy Corben]

I think, okay, okay, that's fine because I have a contract. So if you want to pay me for not doing the show, that's fine.

[Stugotz]

We can pay him for doing nothing.

[Chris Cody]

We already do.

[Billy Corben]

That's a good. That's a good one. I got no retort for that.

[Stugotz]

This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats. Zaslow, some life advice the audience was giving you.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, man.

[Stugotz]

I need the audience's help with something that happened to me on Friday. And so I want to know what the feedback was in general and what you got decided with your teenage boy who informed you the other day at 16 years old that he was headed to Chicago for a UFC fight. Did not ask your permission, just told you he was going. The audience said, what about this? And what's the reaction, Ben?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, well, first of all, the reaction's been great because I lost my parent handbook, so I don't have the answers to everything. And the reaction has been ongoing throughout the weekend. So I appreciate that. And I will tell you it's an easy out for me and my wife because as some of the listeners have pointed out, there's no hotel that's going to allow a 16 year old to check into a hotel. You probably, you definitely at least have to be 18. So we already told my son that we avoid being the bad guys. I know there's a lot of pushback where it's like, zaslo, why are you afraid of being the bad guy? Whatever. All right, so we got out of it by. Because of that. And now he's trying to get. They think that they're going to get one of the parents to go. Ain't going to be me. I'm not trying to go to Chicago, but I think we're in the clear.

[Stugotz]

Are your kids of an age where they think you're their buddy more than their dad?

[Greg Cody]

No, no, they know. They know. They know I'm above them. They know I'm about them.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, well, this, this doesn't make it. This doesn't make it sound like.

[Stugotz]

Right.

[Chris Cody]

Like in this instance, it didn't sound like it. If he told you he was going.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Greg Cody]

Well, okay, when he says he's going, it doesn't mean that. And we're saying no, which we weren't doing yet. But he says he's going, we're saying no. And then the day comes, he just up and leaves and he goes like, that's not the way. That's the way it would happen. All right? He could think he's going. We could say no. He could think he's going. He's not going if we don't want him to.

[Stugotz]

But.

[Chris Cody]

But does he know that he.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Tony]

Good card, though.

[Greg Cody]

Can't just get into his car and go to the airport. And all of a sudden he's flying in Chicago with me and my wife screaming, no, you're not. No, he wouldn't be going.

[Dan Le Batard]

Then I think Uncle Tony should go.

[Billy Corben]

I mean.

[Tony]

MMA hangout live from Chicago.

[Greg Cody]

Low key Tony in consideration as chaperone.

[Tony]

Low key Dan, can you make a kid's dream come true? We can make it happen. I think loves Hamza, loves the Arab fighters.

[Greg Cody]

My son loves them.

[Stugotz]

I think it would be bad judgment.

[Billy Corben]

He goes to the.

[Tony]

No, he goes to the fight.

[Billy Corben]

Okay?

[Tony]

We do the show. Once he's done, he comes over, that's it, we're done.

[Stugotz]

The life advice I need is the following from the group here. I really don't know what to do about this because I've told you that for many, many years without knowing it, because I had just gone to the same old school dentist I had always gone to. That I had not realized that over the last 20 years or so, the dental industry has become something that is much more modernized. So what I was doing in a dentist chair was a little more primitive than what it is now, where I'm watching a netfl Netflix show and my legs are being massaged and it's a whole spa experience when they're cleaning my teeth. It has been lovely, lovely to go from passing out in the chair one time, from the dental work that was being done on my mouth, to enjoying going to a truly happy dental place where a lot of people are enjoying nice services.

[Greg Cody]

Where is this?

[Dan Le Batard]

I gotta try this.

[Stugotz]

Yes, it's in Aventura and it's taken me many years to find it. But what I was going to tell you, and I don't want to talk too much about this because then it's going to get back to my dentist like Curb. But Larry David's got a new show coming out on HBO. Did you know that?

[Mike Ryan]

Produced with the Obamas 30, 30 minute.

[Stugotz]

Sketch sketch comedy series. Anyway, so I'm in the chair and I've told you before that I have been surprised that my dentist, while doing a great job, like I don't feel anything. It's just I'm in and out in an hour and everything is perfect. It's a perfect experience.

[Greg Cody]

It's that big needle that they use.

[Stugotz]

It's not a needle, no needles, just topical, just little topical stuff. But the last time I was in with her, it was super far right politics that she was talking. And this time with my mouth open and sharp instruments inside. I get the question, how do you feel about Trump?

[Tony]

I thought she's run this game on you before.

[Stugotz]

I just stay quiet. I don't know what to do because I don't want vulnerable position. Well, here, this is, this is what I'm telling you. I'm admitting to the audience a vulnerable position. Because here is where my morality gets diluted by my comfort. Because you do what in this situation? What do you guys do in this situation where you're having the magical, the magical dental experience, but you really don't want to have this conversation in any way.

[Greg Cody]

It has to be whatever keeps you comfortable in that moment. That's the only thing there is.

[Stugotz]

But I felt, but I felt in that chair as soon as she started about cloud seeding, weather control and deep state. I just said I think they're all dangerous. But I'm speaking like my mouth is wide open with one of these things.

[Chris Cody]

I can barely speak. I got a. I got one of these things sucking out things.

[Tony]

That's the thing with the dentist, right? Or the person who's cleaned the dental hygienist they ask you questions while they're working on your mouth.

[Greg Cody]

They love doing that.

[Tony]

You have no way to answer back.

[Dan Le Batard]

You start to answer and then they're like, no, keep your tongue down. Or like, move your tongue.

[Tony]

I can't talk then.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, my guy was like that too. Mandel. Yeah, he. He used. He was an older gentleman.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why I switched dentists.

[Billy Corben]

He used to talk about all these, like, Abe Saperstein and all. All these old timey NBA names.

[Dan Le Batard]

All of a sudden in the middle, right in the middle of the thing on another server, he, like, walks over and grabs like, a picture. And all of a sudden, now I'm like, looking at a picture frame. It's like, I don't care, dude.

[Billy Corben]

Right? Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Oh, wow.

[Billy Corben]

I know you remember him.

[Dan Le Batard]

How old are you?

[Chris Cody]

What do you do in my situation?

[Billy Corben]

I'll tell you what I do. I say, be a dentist. Quit talking politics.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is a crazy thing.

[Tony]

Shut up and clean.

[Billy Corben]

Is that what you're going to tell Be a dentist? I don't want to talk politics.

[Dan Le Batard]

How do you feel about Trump? Is one of the wilder things to be asked.

[Stugotz]

I like him.

[Chris Cody]

I'm telling you guys that as your.

[Stugotz]

Mouth is open in that situation, it does not feel safe to do what you just did.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, what.

[Stugotz]

What you just did. I understand.

[Chris Cody]

Be a dentist.

[Stugotz]

They've got sharp things in your mouth.

[Greg Cody]

You would never say that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like the idea that she would, like, attack you if.

[Stugotz]

No, I'm not. I'm not.

[Chris Cody]

I'm not saying that she would.

[Mike Ryan]

You also enjoy the experience so much you're living out the Palestinian chicken episode. Because this place brings you joy for something that. This is actually the most enjoyable experience I've ever had here. I'm willing to tolerate your politics.

[Stugotz]

Not since chicken filet has this. Has this conundrum been seen quite so clearly by those on the left who have their appetites about comforts.

[Tony]

Don't wear Chick Fil a there or.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don'T wear a Biden shirt in there.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I'm wearing it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll wear it in there.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm actually mentioning Chick Fil a Chicken filet.

[Tony]

I didn't know what the.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, sorry. Gotcha.

[Stugotz]

Sorry. My bad. The thing that I'm saying, though, to Greg about be a dentist and how it is that you're not going to do that because I don't fear an attack there. I just fear all future awkwardness that will make it a less pleasant experience than what it presently is.

[Billy Corben]

Well, what Zez says is true. I would find a polite way to say, be a dentist, don't talk politics.

[Dan Le Batard]

You just gotta give a nothing answer. Like when they go, how do you feel about Trump?

[Billy Corben]

You just.

[Tony]

God, it works.

[Billy Corben]

I mean, you can't talk politics. I feel that in my own family. You know, relatives of mine no longer come over for Thanksgiving dinner because they're not welcome there.

[Stugotz]

What?

[Billy Corben]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Jeez.

[Stugotz]

It's not because of.

[Tony]

Okay, Dan, I think what you should do is kind of hit him with a. Hit with one of these.

[Stugotz]

Tone, Tone. I'm sorry, I need.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's not sit here.

[Mike Ryan]

Politics is everywhere.

[Stugotz]

I'm trying to get out of that.

[Tony]

Thing and trying to move on over.

[Mike Ryan]

Politics is everywhere. Which is why people gravitate to escapes like our show in the Club World Cup.

[Stugotz]

I wanted to see Greg Cody and.

[Chris Cody]

Chris Cody sink into a family argument about Chris not knowing who's been banned from the Cody household because of politics. I felt like we needed to follow that. I'm guessing despite how he looks dick and leans left.

[Billy Corben]

Yes, he does. He's been banned from Facebook for.

[Dan Le Batard]

He has multiple times. Uncle Dick loves to get in the comments.

[Mike Ryan]

Usually does lean one way or the other.

[Billy Corben]

Not me.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, by the way.

[Dan Le Batard]

Down the middle.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, we were. Well, we were having fun at Conor McGregor. McGregor's expense. Azalea Banks, the outspoken hip hop artist, she released screen caps of DMs that she received, allegedly from Conor McGregor. Nude ones, unsolicited, including one photo in which there's a barbell hanging from his penis. The alien. And said one of the messages and they're threatening, which is don't be a rat, because rats get caught. So that was happening today very early. Conor got after it, by the way.

[Billy Corben]

Happy birthday, Conor McDavid. 37. Today.

[Stugotz]

We weren't talking about Conor McGregor or McGregor.

[Billy Corben]

I should say McGregor.

[Greg Cody]

Happy birthday.

[Mike Ryan]

So whose birthday is it?

[Tony]

McDavid's. 37.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah. Also overrated.

[Stugotz]

Good luck.

[Mike Ryan]

Whose birthday is it?

[Stugotz]

Whose birthday?

[Billy Corben]

No, it's Conor McGregor's birthday.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, good. Horribly unfair thing to invoke Conor McDavid during that I know.

[Billy Corben]

Particular part.

[Tony]

I thought he was 37.

[Billy Corben]

Got my Connors mixed up.

[Stugotz]

Earlier in the show we played Travis Scott falling off a stage. I want to go back to that because Mike Ryan described it as both red and dark, which is accurate. Let's play that video. And that sound again. The autotune is hysterical.

[Greg Cody]

That's right.

[Chris Cody]

Not Dan, dear. For those of you not watching on video, the last sound that you're hearing is very much him falling off the stage with auto tune. As punctuation. And when you mentioned that it was red and dark, it made me imagine.

[Stugotz]

What I thought is the shirt you're wearing now, which is the satanic music that you went to go see last week or this weekend.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I went last night to the Kaseya center at 8 o'.

[Stugotz]

Clock.

[Mike Ryan]

I strolled in. The concert started at 8 o'.

[Stugotz]

Clock.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Mike Ryan]

At 8 o' clock you put your phone in your. They have a pouch. No phones. The concert started at 8 o' clock on a Sunday night. No opener, Just here's the band Ghost. They play for an hour and 45 minutes. You are on your way home by 9:45. It was the greatest. And I like shows in which I can't have my cell phone. I wish I did have some video to share with you because the stage production is unbelievable.

[Greg Cody]

I've never heard of that before. A concert, a music concert that has the pouch to put your cell phone away.

[Mike Ryan]

I've seen that before. I've gone to Jack White concerts. Jack White is a huge believer in this, but he's playing smaller venues and he realizes that when he plays arena shows, it's a little harder to. To enforce. I haven't been to an arena show with a music act that does that. It was incredible. And I think my favorite part about it was the fact that they started at 8 o'.

[Stugotz]

Clock. You mentioned that they were.

[Mike Ryan]

They were. So it took a satanic band to finally be considerate to its audience on a Sunday night.

[Greg Cody]

What's that mean, Satanic what?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, it's all theater. I don't actually believe it. Although there was a lot of, you know, espousing the virtues of the dark lord.

[Stugotz]

When you mention. Oh, thank you, Satanic Mike Monday makes its appearance there as part of the new imaging. As part of what? Jason, the director is going rogue on.

[Mike Ryan]

So I have to say, stop doing this.

[Stugotz]

It infuriates Mike Ryan when you mentioned the taking of the phones away. I'm wondering if you guys will be able to find what the app is. I wonder how you guys would feel about an app that is becoming popular. A couple of friends of mine have mentioned it that basically, if you're gonna go to Instagram, for example, to do something mindless, the phone makes you do five squats or whatever to make sure that you don't do it mindlessly. Something that throws exercise into the addiction of social media that we have for our phones. How do you guys feel about that as an idea? Does that seem to you a successful App idea. One that merges the addiction you have with your phone to a demand for presence that will have exercise in it every time you to get onto Instagram.

[Billy Corben]

Hypocritical app dumb.

[Mike Ryan]

What are they standing for? We're going to decrease your dependence on this device by increasing your dependence on this device. Now you need an app to tell you to do squats. Get out of here.

[Tony]

Also, how does it work? Like, am I sitting on the couch since I do five squats and I'm like shaking my phone?

[Stugotz]

In order to get your phone working, you have to do the exercise. Look, you guys can have your questions about it, but I'm asking you. You don't like it as an idea for what is our greatest untreated addiction as a species? The addiction presently have to our phones that are distorting us and creating a dystopian loneliness throughout. Throughout society. Our addiction to it. If I tell you, you have to be more present when doing it. And here, here five squats to do it. That doesn't seem like a good idea to anybody listening to this.

[Billy Corben]

It's too easy to beat that rap. You know, I'm smarter than an app. It tells me to do five squats. I'm like, all right, I just did them.

[Stugotz]

I don't feel like. Like I'm smarter than my apps anymore. I don't feel. I don't feel like I'm smarter than my apps anymore.

[Chris Cody]

Do you?

[Billy Corben]

I tell my. I know I did five. I just did 10. Now I'm going to do tick tock up the ass more often than I would have had had the app not told me to do squats that's what I'm going to say. I'm going to get the best of my app. Tell you that Raggedy. I tell you the apps are taking over the world. So is the algorithm. Okay, you mentioned algorithms earlier. That's an invasion of privacy. Okay, I don't want my computer paying so much attention to everything I do that it. It now feeds me stuff it thinks I most want or might want. Don't make that decision for me. You know, just because I watch a bunch of elephant videos, it doesn't mean I want nothing but elephant videos. It's an algorithm. It's. It's an invasion of privacy. So is everything now. You know, drones flying over my house, taking pictures of me. It's ridiculous. No privacy anymore. Am I wrong?

[Stugotz]

I was just taken aback by the language you used. I haven't felt that way since last week. You used the phrase hard on yeah.

[Billy Corben]

Well, we were talking about how Viagra originally began as a heart medicine.

[Tony]

He's right about that.

[Billy Corben]

And so I put together two things.

[Stugotz]

I didn't finish my story because the house on Star island that resulted from that medicine, that was heart medicine, and by accident became a boner pill. The trees on that lawn are all $100,000 trees because of how much money was made from that act. The happy accident of the boner pill.

[Tony]

First guy must have been like, doc, I don't know if it's helping my heart. I know what it is helping.

[Stugotz]

Though it is a bit startling to have that kind of good fortune. I appreciate, though, Greg, that you went totally off the rail there.

[Billy Corben]

Did I?

[Stugotz]

Yeah. I mean, yes, you were. I believe we were all jarred by. Look at them.

[Chris Cody]

They're still. Look at that room. That room remains shell shocked. I feel like a strong 90 mile an hour wind has singed all of their eyebrows in there. The whole. The whole group of people are startled.

[Stugotz]

By how you got that burst of funny out of nowhere.

[Billy Corben]

I can't believe I'm the only one who is anti algorithm.

[Stugotz]

I don't think you are. I think they're making us crazy and sad and that we're addicted to them.

[Chris Cody]

Them?

[Stugotz]

I. That part is obvious, is it not? And yet I don't feel like I'm smarter than they are. I get when I talk to you guys about the changing of viewing habits, I was for a while there stuck at night going through all the trailers on Netflix, on Apple, without picking any one of them. My.

[Greg Cody]

My algorithm on Instagram, it's Dance all Boobs. It's a good algorithm.

[Chris Cody]

It is an invasion of privacy.

[Stugotz]

You're not wrong about this.

[Billy Corben]

I like intentionally fooling my algorithm. What I'll do is I'll go 24 hours watching nothing but old Jetsons cartoons, and then for the next week, it's sending me Looney Tunes, it's sending me all things related to cartoons. I feel like I have won that. Okay, I have gotten. That's where I say I'm smarter than an ass. That's where I have beaten the app by fooling it into telling them what my algorithm is, even though it could not be part of the school trick.

[Chris Cody]

So your great mustache, Summer. It is just. I want to be clear on this. Your great victory, though, is that now your algorithm is filled with crap you don't actually want because you showed it.

[Billy Corben]

Yes, exactly. What a feeling of superiority. You kidding me? It's the same with cars. Don't tell me you Know when my window should move? I'm veering slightly toward the center of the lane, and it beeps. What if I want to veer slightly to the center of the lane because the guy in back of me to the right is tailgating? So when he goes to pass, I'm veering over just to give him a little of that, and the car is beeping at me like, I shouldn't do that. I know what I'm doing. I'm smarter than a car.

[Tony]

Greg's onto something here. Because you feed the algorithm things you don't want. You don't spend as much time on your phone looking at stuff you don't want. So there's the addiction buster right there. Tom and Jerry cartoons or whatever he said.

[Billy Corben]

Yep.

[Tony]

I don't want to watch that. Okay, perfect. Feed me more of it that way. I'm looking at him like, I don't want this.

[Stugotz]

You guys surprised me with your just total rebuffing and indifference about an app idea that I thought was pretty smart about trying to keep people intact. Intentional. I know people don't want a lot of intentionality, but some do, and some appreciate the help with the discipline.

[Mike Ryan]

It's phony. Here's why it's funny. You're the sucker. Because you. You want to approach social media and your. Your addiction to your device on some sort of moral high ground because you don't like that you've given yourself over to this addiction.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do three squats now every time before I.

[Mike Ryan]

You do. We. We all have it bad, and they outsmarted us, and they feed it. And you feeling bad about it by installing an app that makes you do four lunges before you open. It doesn't make you better than me. It doesn't make you better than Zaz.

[Stugotz]

I haven't installed such an app. I'm just. I'm just your app friends.

[Mike Ryan]

But I see how you. You're approaching this whole conversation as if you're the. The moral high ground. Man. No boobs.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

My algorithm and I were on the same page.

[Stugotz]

I'm not looking down on you from my squat from Squat Mountain up here.

[Chris Cody]

I don't have the app, and I'm just thinking it's a good idea for people who would appreciate being more intentional.

[Mike Ryan]

Here's what good ideas. I open up Instagram. I see Bret Hart applying the sharpshooter on Mr. Perfect. That's what I want instantaneously, and that's what I get.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now the airport looks even more ridiculous because you just see some asshole like.

[Stugotz]

All right, good.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm good to go now.

[Mike Ryan]

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