Hour 1: Slappin Da Bass with Jordan Schultz

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Hour 1: Slappin Da Bass with Jordan Schultz
Release Date: January 15, 2025

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I. Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosted by Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, the team delves into a variety of topics ranging from NFL quarterback performances to personal anecdotes and potential coaching changes in the Dallas Cowboys. The lively discussion is punctuated with humor, insightful commentary, and engaging interactions among the hosts and guest Jordan Schultz.

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II. Analyzing Sam Darnold’s Quarterback Performance

A. Quarterback Critique and Strategic Analysis

The conversation kicks off with a deep dive into Sam Darnold's performance as the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. The hosts express frustration over Darnold's decision-making on the field, particularly his reluctance to run when under pressure.

• Chris Cody criticizes Darnold’s tendency to hold onto the ball too long:

  "He's holding it too long. Throw it, man." (05:22)

• Dan LeBatard echoes this sentiment, highlighting it as one of the top calls of the season:

  "That's got to be, I would say top two call of the last six months." (06:16)

B. Comparisons to Other Quarterbacks

The hosts compare Darnold to other prominent quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow, emphasizing their ability to maintain pocket presence and make decisive plays without over-relying on mobility.

• Chris Cody praises Joe Burrow’s poise:

  "With his face and his head up in a way that's uncommon for the quarterback." (08:30)

C. Organizational Impact

Discussion extends to the organizational decisions impacting Darnold's performance, including the Vikings' roster and coaching strategies.

• Chris Cody points out the heavy reliance on players like Aaron Jones:

  "They traded for Hawkins and got him from Detroit because they thought... we can make any quarterback good, even one that's on the scrap heap." (04:55)

D. Audience Takeaways

The hosts stress the importance of decision-making under pressure and the need for quarterbacks to adapt to fast-paced defenses.

• Chris Cody emphasizes the evolving nature of the sport:

  "We can't stop all of this mobility that's coming our way." (07:56)

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III. Vince Wilfork’s Personal Life and Banter

A. Discussing Vince Wilfork’s Divorce

The conversation takes a personal turn as the hosts address Vince Wilfork's recent divorce. The exchange blends humor with genuine curiosity about his personal life.

• Vince Wilfork shares about his divorce:

  "I have a new wife now. You know, me and Bianca didn't make it, so I moved on." (26:22)

• Billy Gill humorously congratulates Vince:

  "Let me be the first on this show to congratulate you on the new wife." (26:18)

B. Hosts’ Reactions and Humor

The hosts engage in playful teasing, highlighting the awkwardness of discussing personal matters on air.

• Chris Cody remarks on the awkwardness:

  "It's such a sad way to say it." (18:42)

• Stugotz chimes in with laughter:

  "It's a good save." (15:06)

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IV. Jerry Jones and Deion Sanders Potential Move to Dallas Cowboys

A. Exploring the Possibility

Chris Cody brings up the intriguing possibility of Deion Sanders joining the Dallas Cowboys as head coach, prompted by conversations and potential backchanneling between Jerry Jones and Sanders.

• Jordan Schultz explains the dynamics:

  "Jerry did [reach out to Deion] because he realized Mike McCarthy's contract was in limbo." (31:19)

B. Assessing the Feasibility

The hosts question the realism of this potential move, considering Sanders' previous statements and the organizational culture of the Cowboys.

• Chris Cody expresses skepticism:

  "How real is it? Them talking is fine and interesting, but how is it not just cosmetic?" (33:24)

C. Impact on the League

They discuss the broader implications for the NFL, including how Sanders' coaching style would fit within the Cowboys' framework and his relationship with players.

• Jordan Schultz highlights Sanders' player relations:

  "Deion is going to relate to players in a way that they have not had." (33:01)

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V. Light-Hearted Segments and Host Banter

A. Funyuns and Athleticism

The discussion shifts to a humorous segment about Funyuns and its supposed impact on athletic performance, leading to playful jabs at Jordan Schultz's athletic history.

• Jordan Schultz admits:

  "I had the lowest vertical leap in Seattle University basketball history." (40:36)

B. Shoes Inside the House Debate

Another segment features a debate on the etiquette of wearing shoes inside the house, showcasing the hosts’ differing preferences and humorous interactions.

• Dan LeBatard shares his practice:

  "I have a designated pair of slippers... they never go outside, so they're clean." (42:35)

• Jessica comments on the annoyance:

  "If I walk into a friend's house and they're one of those people where it's like shoes off at the door, that's always annoying." (41:32)

C. Fun with Foot Displays

The hosts engage in playful antics, including displaying feet on the screen and making jokes about physical appearances.

• Chris Cody jokes:

  "I think they're like canned hams." (43:40)

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VI. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with continued light-hearted interactions and a recap of the discussions. The hosts maintain their signature blend of sports analysis, personal stories, and humorous banter, leaving listeners entertained and informed.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Chris Cody: "He's holding it too long. Throw it, man." (05:22)
• Dan LeBatard: "That's got to be, I would say top two call of the last six months." (06:16)
• Vince Wilfork: "I have a new wife now. You know, me and Bianca didn't make it, so I moved on." (26:22)
• Jordan Schultz: "Deion is going to relate to players in a way that they have not had." (33:01)
• Chris Cody: "How real is it? Them talking is fine and interesting, but how is it not just cosmetic?" (33:24)

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Timestamps Reference:

• Timestamps correspond to the [MM:SS] format mentioned in the transcript sections.

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This episode offers a comprehensive look into current NFL dynamics, personal stories, and the unique chemistry among the hosts, making it a must-listen for fans of sports commentary and engaging podcast discussions.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Billy Gill]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Jessica]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Jordan Schultz]

This is the Dan Levator show with the ST Podcast.

[Chris Cody]

You may be asking yourself, where do we get more Lerd Show? Even though we get way too much Lerd show and we can't keep up with all of the Lerd Show, Mike Ryan has lovingly been working on a project, an oral history of our show's history. Very self involved. Where can people get it?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I've heard a lot of complaints as hey, I want to listen to all the episodes because we put them on our main podcast feed, available wherever it is that you get your podcasts. But sometimes some of the older episodes purge. So what we've [e-mail] is put together a playlist of the entire oral history in chronological order so you can listen back to every episode and not have to worry about scrolling down and not seeing an older episode.

[Billy Gill]

Made it easy for me.

[Mike Ryan]

Made it very easy.

[Chris Cody]

Playlist for Stugots Lazy this episode of.

[Jessica]

The Dan Lebatard show with Stu Gotz is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company New York, New York I'm playing quarterback. Yeah if I'm that guy I won't be taking sacks yeah I'm making special throws behind my back yeah Cause I'm that guy so I pick up your slack yeah what about this? If I'm just a guy won't recognize A blitz when it's disguised. I'm throwing pics when we're in overtime. That's just what happens if I'm just a guy.

[Jordan Schultz]

I got some questions.

[Jessica]

Sam Donald, that you be throwing or Geno Smith, that you be throwing. In Property that you be throwing it. Kyler Murray, that you be.

[Jordan Schultz]

Let me see what you got.

[Jessica]

Bo Nix, that you be throwing it. Michael Pannix, that you be throwing it. DJ Stroud. I'll ask a loud. Are you that guy? Are you that guy? Are you that guy? Are you that guy? Are you that guy? Are you that guy? Are you that guy? Are you that guy?

[Chris Cody]

Better.

[Billy Gill]

Pretty good.

[Jessica]

As in that's better than before or needs to be better.

[Billy Gill]

Always needs to be better.

[Jessica]

Got it.

[Chris Cody]

A guy. The guy. How many a guys are there at quarterback? Listen to the Viking frustration. This is. I'm going to set up the sound Stugatz because. And I will tell you that my Vikings analysis this season has been very simplified. I heard a lot of O'Connell's. The best. I heard a lot of Brian Flores. Proves to a wrong Coaching, coaching, coaching. Magic, magic, magic. And I just kept seeing center of all. No, that's Sam Darnold. And it's still Sam Darnold at the middle of that. And at the very end I collapsed because they went 14 and three. I'm like, okay, maybe it was Sam Darnold. And then what happened was Sam Darnold was maximum Sam Darnold. And the Minnesota announcers knew it was coming. They live a cold life in the cold. Physically in the cold. And now they've lived long enough. Oh, no, the Detroit Lions are better than us. We've lived an entire generation and generation after that and generation after that. We were always better than the Lions and now we're not anymore. And why is that? Because we have Sam Darnold.

[Stugotz]

Correct.

[Billy Gill]

But at least the Bears haven't caught up.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, well, the frustration that is in Minnesota, perhaps you can hear right in here because I mentioned stugats that Addison and Naylor and Jefferson and Hawkinson. And Hawkins.

[Billy Gill]

Hawkinson. You got it.

[Chris Cody]

Aaron Jones and Aaron Jones. Like that is a lot of people to give one. They traded for Hawkins and got him from Detroit because they thought, okay, if Naylor's our third best receiver, we can make any quarterback good, even one that's on the scrap heap. And then Minnesota realizes at the same time as the rest of us, oh, no, it's still Sam Darnold. Him, Aaron Jones, Addison and motion to the right. Two receivers left Rams Blitz.

[Jordan Schultz]

Darnold gets away from it, steps up in the pocket. He's holding it too long.

[Chris Cody]

Just run.

[Jordan Schultz]

Throw it, man.

[Chris Cody]

Just run. At the 25 yard line, he's sacked.

[Jordan Schultz]

For a fifth time.

[Jessica]

The throw it made.

[Billy Gill]

Throw it made. What a great goal.

[Chris Cody]

That's speaking for their, their entire fan base.

[Jordan Schultz]

He's holding it too long. Throw it, man.

[Chris Cody]

It's so easy to do from up there.

[Jordan Schultz]

He's holding it too long. Throw it, man.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, things are moving really fast down there. He's scared too.

[Jessica]

Throw it, man.

[Jordan Schultz]

He's holding it too long. Throw it, man.

[Billy Gill]

The just run is great.

[Chris Cody]

So easy. Just run.

[Jordan Schultz]

He's holding it too long.

[Chris Cody]

Just run. Throw it, man.

[Billy Gill]

Just run.

[Jessica]

I didn't catch that till like the fourth time.

[Chris Cody]

Both of them matter of factly just. They really are surgically dissecting the Rams defense from up there.

[Jordan Schultz]

He's holding it too long.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's got to be, I would say top two call of the last six months. Only just behind the disaster.

[Jordan Schultz]

What a bad idea.

[Dan LeBatard]

Call from the Maryland USC game earlier this year.

[Chris Cody]

Can you just put yourself okay. Right now when Chris Cody argues yesterday. Okay, stug. Because there's a lot of pressure on everything that we're watching. And Chris Cody, he was the only one in the world who had the coward's take of give me all of Sam Darnold's money, but none of the expectations that come with being an NFL quarterback. And I sign up with everything he's saying. But I too am a coward about this. You know why I'm a coward? Because I'm listening to that sound and when I hear that announcer just casually say, just run. As if those aren't 300 pound people chasing Sam Darnold. And that his every instinct actually is to just run.

[Billy Gill]

He wish he could, but.

[Chris Cody]

But the decision he makes to not run is based on knowing that it is best if I throw because I'm not much of a runner. Now we do have a lot of mobile quarterbacks in the rest of the playoffs. Dugouts. And I've been watching. It's. It's a fascinating evolution to see in the sport. Really fascinating. Oh, when it all shrinks up and Justin Herbert has to throw just from the pocket. Even Justin Herbert's not quite mobile enough to be the mobile thing you need because defenses are eating up. Just throw it, man. You gotta get rid of it in two and three seconds.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

So Sam Darnold gets swallowed by some of this. This is to me the greatest gift I will ask the rest of you if you think this is normal. Because I do not think it is. And one of the reasons that I think that Aaron Rodgers was a special quarterback that necessarily wasn't winning the way that Tom Brady was seven times, but would just step up calmly into the teeth of a pocket because he could feel everything that was happening around him wasn't chaos. He just needed to move up two steps to see that the field could be seen clearly. With his head up, not worried about either running or getting crushed. Joe Burrow steps into the teeth of the pocket.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Pocket presence with.

[Chris Cody]

But with his. With his face and his head up in a way that's uncommon for the quarterback. And so he can live in a smaller pocket that doesn't require him to be mobile quarterback. And still do some of the things that Joe Burrow does.

[Billy Gill]

Right. All those guys are doing when they do that is buying themselves the extra second or two that they need to get rid of the football. Right. A half a second maybe. But you're asking Sam Darnold in that spot when you say just run, man. You're asking him to be Jaden Daniels. He's not Jaden Daniels.

[Chris Cody]

But are you guys not noticing sort of the way that the terrain gets eaten up so that very quickly, all of a sudden Kirk Cousins isn't serviceable because of how much is changing? You got to get the running backs disposable, cheapened in value. I need my quarterback to either be value or be mobile, preferably both. Because I'm going to need somebody that turns run pass option into TJ Watt doesn't. TJ Watt doesn't.

[Billy Gill]

Right. Jaden is the guy most teams are looking for. Right. Cheap and mobile.

[Chris Cody]

Well, but I mean, great. But I would say Baker Mayfield is a level of athletic. I would say that C.J. stroud is a level of athletic. I would think that none of us would dispute that. Kyler Murray is obviously very athletic. But I'm talking about the way that that sport tries to exploit winning in the margins by finding value in all the places. Of course, if you make a quarterback who's a quarterback and a running back as well, you can save money at running back and then get Derek Henry for one year, 10 million dol. Boom. You have a Super Bowl.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

Two. Or if you're Josh Allen and you can run around like that. Right. And then all of a sudden you could beat Denver just handing the ball to James Cook all. All game, you could just beat Denver that way.

[Billy Gill]

Makes it easier because.

[Chris Cody]

Because we can't stop all of this mobility that's coming our way. But when you're in Minnesota, this happened in two games, Stots. We went from Sam Darnold's going to make so much this offseason to this.

[Jordan Schultz]

He's holding it too long.

[Chris Cody]

Just run. Throw it, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just run.

[Billy Gill]

Just run.

[Jordan Schultz]

He's holding it too long.

[Chris Cody]

Just run.

[Jordan Schultz]

Throw it, man.

[Vince Wilfork]

Who is that guy?

[Chris Cody]

Isn't that America, though, on Sunday, watching on your television, you're just like, just run. It's easy. Look, it's right there.

[Jessica]

I don't know who the just run guy is. I know the other guy's Paul Allen from KFXN in Minneapolis.

[Chris Cody]

Would you not agree, Would all of you not agree that much of the armchair coaching that there is from all of the critics who watch football on Sunday? It's some degree of. That's easy. Why wouldn't you just run there, the hardest position in the sport? Yeah, there's a hole right there. Look, it's right there. The holes right there are like, look.

[Dan LeBatard]

He'S open down the field, 50 yards. Pick your head up. Stop looking at the ginormous men trying to tackle you and look down field while you're about to get smushed.

[Chris Cody]

It's. It's better than that though, right? Because the decision of just run also doesn't take into calculation that since he's a child being better than all the other athletes at this sport, Sam Darnold has never thought that the good play is to run 4 yards and get tackle. Like, I think that's not the play. I understand that that has to be taught and he has to learn that that's the good play. But let me go get hit violently and I can just go over there for 4 yards. You also have Justin Jefferson, so that's not what you're doing. Generally not a team strength to drive down the field. Sam Dar yards at a time.

[Billy Gill]

Sam did rush it 67 times for 212 yards this season, a career high.

[Chris Cody]

4 yards at a time. He's gotten very good at it. You understand, though, it's not. And I'm sure Sam Darnold is very athletic compared to just people, to us, to huge normal human being.

[Billy Gill]

There was some more to the guys calling the game.

[Chris Cody]

Well, but here you go. Those two guys. So. But here's another thing that's harder than people think. Okay? Another silly thing that's harder than people think because you say to the guy calling the game, is everyone listening to this, understanding what a disaster it has been to pay $375 million for Tom Brady to not be even mediocre at broadcasting. The. Speaking of football games, it has not worked. It is likely to end after one year. You will have the fairly unprecedented distinction of having a broadcaster walk away from more than $300 million because he' good at a job failing after one year in a way that Tom Brady has never failed before.

[Billy Gill]

I hope Greg Olsen's agent is ready for this negotiation.

[Chris Cody]

Man, listen to what Tom Brady's former teammate Vince Wilfor had to say in general about Tom Brady's broadcasting. Before you go, what. What do you think of Tom Brady as a broadcaster?

[Vince Wilfork]

I don't know.

[Jessica]

Been stared at like that in my.

[Chris Cody]

Life other than my wife has given me those eyes.

[Vince Wilfork]

I mean, you know, it's like. I mean, he's very knowledgeable of the game. Like, that's. That's what it is. But I would rather be him, my quarterback, than my, you know, on tv doing what he's doing now.

[Jordan Schultz]

Okay, all right, that's fair.

[Chris Cody]

That's fair.

[Vince Wilfork]

I love him for my quarterback, and he.

[Chris Cody]

He may only be doing it this year. He's so involved with the Raiders ownership. I' I wouldn't be surprised.

[Billy Gill]

I think a lot of.

[Chris Cody]

There's a lot of rumblings he does.

[Vince Wilfork]

The super bowl, and he's done. You know, I heard there's a lot going on with, you know, legally, what he can and cannot do.

[Dan LeBatard]

So I'm not sure what was more awkward, his reaction to that or when Dan asked him about his marriage.

[Chris Cody]

You are very comfortable talking about how you met your wife, how much you love her, how important she is to you, and that's the reason that I asked the question. I've always admired that about you, that you are. You have no problems whatsoever professing your love.

[Vince Wilfork]

Well, the thing is, I have a new wife now. You know, me and Bianca didn't make it, so I moved on. We moved on. It was for the better for both of us, and. But we are. We are real, you know, good friends. You know, we are parents.

[Billy Gill]

First things just got a little awkward there. So let me be the first on this show to congratulate you on the new wife. Vance, congratulations on. On feeling whole. Feeling complete. You know, let's talk tailgating. Yeah. Witty was so disappointed in Dan. Did you see his face?

[Dan LeBatard]

He looked so pissed off.

[Stugotz]

It's a good save.

[Billy Gill]

Thank you.

[Chris Cody]

I would say comedically, just rhythmically, in terms of song, you have not heard a better cadence of words chosen than I have a new wife. You know, me and Bianca didn't make it. It like you would describe, you know, a plane crash. Like some. You would describe people not living. Didn't make it. Didn't survive the marriage. Didn't survive. But to say I have a new wife, you know, me and Bianca. It's a funny name as well. Me and Bianca didn't make it.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's such a cop out to be like, he's the greatest quarterback of all time. That wasn't the question.

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Jordan Schultz]

I like him as my quarterback.

[Billy Gill]

Well, no shit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Also, like, if he gets to call the super bowl and then he's like, I'm done calling quits, leaving on top. Okay, well, Greg Olson comes back. He's got to wait now, like, three more years to get to call a Super Bowl. That's not fair.

[Chris Cody]

Why have you guys frozen the way I look on the screen there?

[Jessica]

They're highlighting your face. And I'm just saying Dan's going to think you guys are making a fat joke.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I look terrible there. I look pale. The lighting's not good in the studio. I look deeply unhealthy. I do look less gray.

[Jessica]

You look good now, Dan. I think you look way better. That's great.

[Chris Cody]

But why is it on the screen? Is it just to make fun of.

[Jessica]

The face you're making when it happens?

[Billy Gill]

Right.

[Jessica]

This is your awkwardness.

[Billy Gill]

It's the face of shame.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's like ope. If you said ope, you would have said ope, but you don't say Ope, you just express it.

[Chris Cody]

I have a new wife, you know.

[Billy Gill]

Well, hello, Dan Levittau.

[Chris Cody]

Wait a minute. Why is Skipper here? No, that's what I thought you were doing. I was doing my limited fake Will Fork, not my limited fake Skipper.

[Billy Gill]

It was terrible, though.

[Jessica]

Billy, on the other hand, not feeling uncomfortable in this clip. The biggest smile I've ever seen.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, well, this is the thing. This is. This is why Billy is the secret ingredient that he is. Billy, look. Yes, focus, please. Focus in on Billy. You will see. No, down, down, down. And focus in as much as you can. Put that on the screen and try and focus just on Billy's face in the background. The reveal of this has Jessica hiding in her own hands because we can all see the delight of Billy in the background. As soon as we focus this up, up, we will see that Billy Gill, agent of Anarchy, is just delighted that I have fallen on my face opposite Vince Wilfork at his feet.

[Stugotz]

I love, love, man. I just glad to hear a nice love story.

[Billy Gill]

Look at the difference in faces between Whittingham and Billy.

[Chris Cody]

Let me. Yes, it's the difference between. It's the difference between the responsibilities of the chairs. Yes, that's exactly right. Why do you think Billy hates sitting in that chair so much?

[Stugotz]

I mean, we were supposed to ask about barbecuing and tailgating, not about his marriage. And I think that's what that look is.

[Jordan Schultz]

Agreed to the script.

[Chris Cody]

Agreed.

[Jordan Schultz]

No one said ask about his parents.

[Jessica]

Nobody loves love like this man. Vince Wolfork.

[Billy Gill]

It is so perfect.

[Chris Cody]

Witty.

[Billy Gill]

Just Billy. That encapsulates the entire show.

[Chris Cody]

The worst part. The worst part of that for me is I was in reruns. It had worked. The last time I talked to him, the marriage didn't.

[Stugotz]

Don't ask him about it next time because we don't know what happened with.

[Billy Gill]

You never know.

[Chris Cody]

Me and Bianca didn't make it. It's somewhere between a party you couldn't get to and a boat lost at sea. Didn't make it. Is it like it seems more extreme than just a marriage falling apart? Does it not. Didn't make. It feels like something between marriage falling apart and life ending. Ding.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's a really sad way to say it.

[Stugotz]

He said that they're still friends.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I'm sure that's.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. We didn't make it seem. I'm with Dan. It's an awkward, odd way it seems. It's a bit much.

[Jessica]

It's actually a nice way of saying.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, we're divorced now. Terrible battle custody. She got the house.

[Jessica]

Oh, no.

[Billy Gill]

I hate her.

[Jessica]

Like, it could have been a lot worse.

[Stugotz]

Could have gotten a lot worse.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

He did a great job.

[Chris Cody]

A success. Yes.

[Stugotz]

I got the rowboats.

[Chris Cody]

You're right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Get everything in the divorce. It's not fair.

[Chris Cody]

I got the dog. Look. Yeah. Billy. I aired and I've aired today. I aired before, and I've aired today. In not getting to the fact that you have now, you came in the other day and you simply said, big night for ghosts.

[Stugotz]

Oh, it was on Monday.

[Billy Gill]

Really?

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Wasn't it?

[Dan LeBatard]

Because Darnold was seeing ghosts.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, Darnold was seeing ghosts again. Then we had the flashback to the last time he was seeing ghosts.

[Billy Gill]

Just wrong.

[Stugotz]

Everybody was talking about the ghosts that he was seeing. Good night for ghosts.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was like the whole universe made that same sort of callback at the same time. Like, several group chats. Just the ghost emoji. It's like the thing he's gonna be best known for now.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, but can we think about. Honestly, can we think for a moment about the haunting and the humanity and what I'm about to say. Sam Darnold cares deeply about being a great quarterback. And for 17 weeks he had us fooled. Like he's been up and down a Jets organization relied on. He was great at usc. He was supposed to be a first round pick and then his career was dead. Careers aren't dead in this sport. Maybe you can be Baker Mayfield, maybe you can get into a contract and then you're playing in the most important game of your life for a contract. And just last week you went from 14, two, you got everything conquered to, oh, we're a five seed going on the road. That's hard to win as a quarterback on the road. Daniels was the only one who did it this weekend. He's a rookie. He's got a future that you don't have. Sam Darnold right now. Now, we thought you had a future going into the off season. We thought you were going to get money. And the reason that this is happening is you're in a playoff game and we all feel that this is going to happen to you. And now you feel that it's going to happen to you and the pressure of it is falling on you. And there's a pass rush, but you're feeling pass rush where it's not, holy shit, is that feeling alone when your skill guys are great and your entire future is playing out on television and everyone sees, yeah, he's just Sam Darnold. And you're like, oh my God, I'm just Sam Darnold. I'm just Sam Darnold. I see ghosts everywhere. I'm not as confident as I need to be. It reminded me, actually, I told you I used to get into bar fights and I retired.

[Billy Gill]

I retired from bar fighting.

[Chris Cody]

I retired the time that I got it tied up.

[Stugotz]

The gloves or what?

[Chris Cody]

I appreciate that you guys are making fun of me about this, but it's a horrible self realization to have, which is where you've started a fight and you realize that the person across from you is not afraid of that fight. And then it means that you are because you've registered a thought in a moment that's supposed to be about muscle memory. Sam Darnold thinking that he's Sam Darnold in that moment when America's thinking he's Sam Darnold and the Rams think he's Sam Darnold and now his teammate Justin Jefferson thinks all bleep. I'm still with Sam Darnold. He fooled me for 16 games.

[Billy Gill]

I don't know, Dan he's still going to get paid. He's not going to get paid what he was going to get paid a couple of weeks ago, but he had 35 touchdowns, 12 interceptions. And I look. And this is a product of the jets just being a lousy organization last year. Not this year. Last year was his rookie year with Kyle Shanahan. He learned under that quarterback coach, that quarterback whisperer, and then came to Minnesota. And this is really his first full year as a starting quarterback. He gave you 4,300 yards, 14 wins, 35 touchdowns, 12 interceptions.

[Chris Cody]

I'm just.

[Billy Gill]

I know he was lousy in the biggest game.

[Dan LeBatard]

Two biggest games.

[Chris Cody]

I'm, I'm talking most about how alone it must feel.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

When we all can see. You're seeing danger that's not there. When an announcer in the, in the press box is this comfortable with his frustration of, oh, no, I had hope and my quarterback sees fear. That isn't registering with me.

[Jordan Schultz]

He's holding it too long.

[Chris Cody]

Throw it, man.

[Billy Gill]

I mean, I hear you. I feel like Viking fans and those announcers should applaud Sam Darnold, the quarterback they drafted, the guy who was supposed to be their quarterback. J.J. mcCarthy went down and in walk Sam Darnold and got them 14 wins. Got them relevant the entire year.

[Dan LeBatard]

We. We have the other call that I was referencing, which I contend was the best call of the season. This was the end of the first half of the Maryland USC game. Maryland's down. They're fumbling. It looks like they have no hope. They did end up winning the game by one point. But here is the call of the Maryland fumble.

[Mike Ryan]

They're not going to clock it.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, no.

[Jordan Schultz]

Disaster.

[Chris Cody]

What a bad idea. Oh, my goodness. That is shouted at the sky by someone falling to their knees.

[Mike Ryan]

They're not going to clock it.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, no.

[Jordan Schultz]

Disaster.

[Chris Cody]

What a bad idea. Oh, my goodness.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Jessica]

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[Chris Cody]

The last thing you want to hear when you need your auto insurance most is a robot with countless irrelevant menu options. Which is why with USA Auto insurance, you'll get great service that is easy and reliable, all at the touch of a button. Get a quote today, restrictions apply. Don LeBatard, you are very comfortable talking about how you met your wife, how much you love her, how important she is to you. And that's the reason that I asked the question. I've always admired that about you, that you are. You have no problems whatsoever professing your love.

[Vince Wilfork]

Well, the thing is, I have a new wife now. You know, me and Bianca didn't make it. So I moved on. We moved on. It was for the better for both of us.

[Billy Gill]

Sts things just got a little awkward there. So let me be the first on this show to congratulate you on the new wife. Vince, congratulations on, on, on feeling whole. Feeling complete, you know, tailgating.

[Vince Wilfork]

Yeah, don't be, don't, don't feel awkward, buddy.

[Billy Gill]

You know, I don't. I mean it's much too late for that.

[Chris Cody]

I appreciate you soothing me in this regard, but I already feel terribly awkward. And then my teammate comes to my defense with not a question, but congratulations. Just a healthy congratulations. And the further pointing out of that awkwardness because he's always good for me in those spots. I'm also thinking of divorce, Vince. After Many, many years, 18 years with a partner who does things like that. To you.

[Jordan Schultz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Chris Cody]

I actually want to ask Jordan something about what he just did there. Jordan Schultz is the Fox Sports NFL Insider co host of why is Draymond Green talking about Football? There are a lot of people in the insider space. His information is very good. He had something on Jerry Jones and Deion Sanders the other day. But when you come on and you say my pledge, is it because you're such a hurry gathering information that you don't have time for the word pleasure? You don't have time, actual pleasure or saying the word. You got to just say my pledge?

[Jordan Schultz]

No, I actually stole that. It's so funny you asked that, Dan, but I actually stole that term from the movie I love you, man. When Paul Rudd is talking to Jason Segel and he has all these different phrases he says that aren't really a part of his vocabulary. But because he's so awkward and so desperate to create a friendship, he keeps saying things that he doesn't really want to say. And one of them is my page. And I stole it because I thought it was so funny.

[Jessica]

So that's actually the reason I love that movie Jobin.

[Chris Cody]

It's a great show. It's a great scene.

[Jordan Schultz]

My favorite scene of that movie is the dog poop when he doesn't pick it up and someone says something to him and he just yells at them and he just runs at them and yells. Not even anything. He just. Just makes a loud noise. That scene. And also the fact that Jason Siegel's actual day by day job is essentially to go to open houses and steal their food.

[Chris Cody]

That is correct. I also think that slapping the base is a rare phrase that we're not making. Really movies that carry over for 10 years with funny things like that that you'll remember. But I want to go back and I failed earlier in the show. I want to show this to Jordan Schultz because I have failed as a network to correct the generation gap we have around here. When David Sampson and Adnan Virk start talking about movies, they know more than just about anybody. I'm listening to on movies, however, they're talking about movies that are ancient. They are talking about back to school, 1986, and what I want to play for Jordan Schultz. I don't know if you're familiar. Do you know what I'm talking about here? Because I want to just show you something and tell you that it's better than anything Paul Rudd has done. Are you familiar with the movie Back to School?

[Jordan Schultz]

No. But that looks great. Oh, wow.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. This is Rodney Dangerfield. This is the triple Lindy right here. This is Rodney Dangerfield going from diving board to diving board. No one's ever done the triple Lindy before. This is an amazing dive to end this movie with you. Yes. A very not physically fit Rodney Dangerfield.

[Jordan Schultz]

This is on.

[Chris Cody]

That's right. That's right. And there it is. The. Please put that picture in picture. I want that to play for the rest of the show. Jessica, do you believe that this is a movie worth watching? Because Rodney Dangerfield has just nailed the triple Lindy.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, I've done the triple Lindy, so I'm not that impressed.

[Billy Gill]

Really.

[Jordan Schultz]

That looks like death defile, evil Knievel type act.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. Yeah. And Jessica has not done it, and it doesn't deserve to. Look at me, Louie. And you, just because I'm a woman, you've devalued.

[Stugotz]

Great question.

[Chris Cody]

It is because you're a woman. Women can't do that. Only Rodney Dangerfield can. Clearly, you have to have a penis to do that.

[Stugotz]

Muscle memory.

[Jessica]

Let me remind the audience that this episode of the Dan LeBatard show is brought to you by DraftKings. Good draft kings, the crown is yours.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't have a comeback. I'm sorry.

[Chris Cody]

Jerry Jones has spoken with Deion Sanders. Jordan, can you tell me what the news is there and how real this is? Or is this just. Jerry loves marketing and, hey, look, I can get around the Rooney rule by doing this as well.

[Jordan Schultz]

Jerry is a master marketer. But really, what it came down to, Dan, was over the last week when he realized that Mike McCarthy's contract was a limbo and that there was a possibility, albeit a strong one, that they weren't going to extend him. They decided Jerry did. That it was time to try and get ahead because he was already behind. Don't forget, because he waited, he cannot interview Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn or others this week because of the way the NFL sets up its interview policy. So as a result, he started doing his back channeling and realizing that Deion Sanders could potentially be a fit to become the next head coach of Dallas. And ultimately, he ends up reaching out to Deon as a reporter the other night and realizes that Deion is potentially interested, knowing full well that Deion, over the last couple years has been very clear publicly that he does not want a coach in the NFL. But when the Cowboys become an option, or at least a possibility, that's a call he has to take. It's a call, quite frankly, that with the relationship he has with Jerry Jones. It wasn't even necessarily an interview. They haven't even scheduled an interview. But it was, I think the respect, the mutual respect that the two men have as peers. And I've said this a lot over the last couple of days, there's not a lot of people that can match Jerry Jones in terms of charisma, panache, prestige, let alone understand the cachet and gravitas of an organization like the Cowboys. Deion Sanders is one of them.

[Chris Cody]

It just doesn't seem like it's real. It seems like they're both profiteers and masters of getting attention. Like, how real is it? Them talking is fine and interesting, but how is it not just cosmetic? Does anyone believe that Jerry Jones would turn over his organization to someone like Deion Sanders, who played the way Deion Sanders does, coach the way Deion Sanders does and would occupy a position that Jerry Jones needs, needs to be egoless?

[Jordan Schultz]

Right. And I, I hear what you're saying, and I asked that question and one of the answers that was given to me by someone in the Dallas building was, Deion has run his operation in Colorado much like an NFL program over the last couple years. And it's a small sample size and he's still very green as a head coach. But the way he assembled the staff, the way he relates to the players, and that was really the message that, that kept getting reiterated to me, is that Deion is going to relate to players in a way that they have not had, with all due respect to a Mike McCarthy or Jason Garrett. And on top of that, Dion has also said, as we know, and this is a question that is very valid, Dan, what you're saying, that he would only consider the NFL if he got to coach his sons. Well, Dallas has a quarterback. His name's Dak Prescott. They just paid him a record setting deal. Deal. If Dion were to come to Dallas, make no mistake, Dak would be the quarterback. It's not going to be Shador Sanders. So there's a lot of factors here. And then there's also been the question mark of would Deon use Dallas as a leverage point, a leverage play with Colorado? I was told no. And that he has a lot of respect and too good of a relationship with Rick George, the AD there. But there's. And there's also a big buyout. There's a lot that has to happen. And it's also without question that Dallas is going to do an extensive search. But it's been made clear to me in no uncertain Terms that should Dion want to pursue the job, should Deon have interest in the job that he would be at or near the top of the list?

[Chris Cody]

Chris Cody, I have seen. Forgive me for a second, Jordan. The good people at Cuervo have arrived and we like to take care of the sponsors who take care of us and the sponsors who take care of us like to take care of us. So I would like to celebrate Jordan Schultz here with some shots of Cuervo. Let's see if all of you have some, some nice 11:30am Cuervo, because we like to take care of a very good sponsor here. Jordan, while we're doing this, what can you tell me the story of the jerseys that are behind you there? Mahomes and Kelsey, Aren't you supposed to be an impartial reporter that gives us the news and doesn't have fandom showing like that? And what are you doing on your phone right now? Are you breaking news right now?

[Jordan Schultz]

The phone, the one on the phone can wait. It's not, it's not urgent. It's. That's like an hour or two away. But, but the jerseys is actually a sweet story because it comes down to my daughter who's 10 and loves nothing more in the world than Taylor Swift. And I told her and my son that I would get them a Travis Kelsey jersey. And then my son said, well, I like Mahomes better. So I got them each of my homes and Kelsey jersey and I've essentially put it in my office until they realized that it's their jersey and until they come in and physically remove the jerseys, which my wife says they will in the next couple of weeks when they really understand this is what's happening. It's still mine.

[Chris Cody]

A toast to front runners. We've got kids who are front runners. A toast to Jordan Schultz's front running kids and Cuervo. They've been with the Chiefs ever since Taylor Swift got there. To Jordan Schultz and the front running children and Cuervo. Thank you, Cuervo. I think Chris Cody just faked a shot. Did you have the shot or did.

[Jessica]

You fake a shot sipping tequila all day?

[Chris Cody]

We have been sipping tequila. You know what? I'm slurring my words because we have been sipping tequila since they got here. Jordan, among the people in the sport, the fear of the Rams. Is it throughout the league that everyone knows that the Rams can beat anybody and fear their coach and their quarterback and their receiver? Or is that just the public getting away get, you know, getting away from itself in the week of wild card play where a team looks good and then all of a sudden you think they can beat the team like Detroit that's got a 222 point point differential and are the Rams. Are the Rams. Should the Rams, given what the Lions did this season, be among the big underdogs?

[Jordan Schultz]

No, I think, I would say as the Rams started to get healthy the second half of the season, Dan, it became clear among the league circles that that was a very, very dangerous team. And that Sean McVay, as long as he had a healthy Cooper cup, as long as Jared Verse continue to cause havoc on the defensive side of the ball, killing quarterbacks, that this had a, this team had a chance to make a real run and that nobody, not only in the NFC west, but nobody in the NFC really wanted to play them. So the Rams are a very good football team and. And as good of a year as Minnesota had with the 14 wins and the reclamation project that was Sam Darnold, the Rams beating them the way they did in Arizona was not really a surprise because that's really who this team has been the last six weeks. Stafford's been playing at a very high level. They're incredibly well coached and they're finally healthy and they have, I don't know, one of the best four or five running backs in the league. All due respect to everyone, you know, Saquon and Derrick Henry, Calvin Williams is good as any. He is an absolute wrecking ball and he gives them the type of balance that they so desperately have wanted. So I'm excited about that team. I still think Detroit is the most complete team and I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone say differently. And they have the best two 1, 2 coordinator punch in football with Aaron Glenn and Ben Johnson. And then Philadelphia has the best offensive and defensive line combo the NFC is. It's very tough and I could see it going a whole lot of ways, but I think top to bottom, most balanced. Even with all the injuries and all the ir, Detroit's still number one.

[Chris Cody]

How do you feel about Funyuns?

[Jordan Schultz]

I am a big Funyuns guy. That was my number one snack growing up until I realized it wasn't very good for you. Dan, it's not very bad for you. My mom used to tell me Funyuns, it's, you want to play basketball, Jordan Funy is going to make you thirsty. You're not going to have the nutrition on the court. So I stopped eating them when I was like 12.

[Stugotz]

Jordan, that's not why you didn't make the NBA, buddy.

[Jordan Schultz]

Oh, I. I know. I'm well aware. I was never going to the NBA, but I did enjoy a fairly successful high school career and did play four years in college, which, considering my athleticism or lack thereof, is pretty good.

[Stugotz]

Maybe if you didn't have the Funyuns, you would have made the NBA. Now, I take it back.

[Jordan Schultz]

No, I had the lowest. I don't know if I want to say this on this program, but I will say this.

[Stugotz]

Just friends here.

[Jordan Schultz]

I had. This is very tough to admit on national television. I. I'm debating in my mind whether or not.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, you're here now. Come on, come on, because I already told you. Come on, Jobin. We're friends. We're friends now. You got to do it. You got to impress your friends.

[Jordan Schultz]

I had the lowest vertical leap in Seattle University basketball history.

[Stugotz]

That's impressive.

[Jordan Schultz]

Yeah, a record breaker. I believe it was like 22 and a half, which basically means at a shade under six.

[Billy Gill]

Three.

[Jordan Schultz]

Three. I could grab the rim. Maybe if I was feeling good. That's how unathletic I was.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's no shot you could do the triple Lindy?

[Chris Cody]

No triple Lindy for me. Put it on the poll, please. Would Jordan Schultz have made the NBA if not for the Funyuns?

[Jordan Schultz]

Dan, I can't express to you how unathletic, how slow I was. In fact, you just.

[Chris Cody]

You just did.

[Jordan Schultz]

I got the nickname the Matador because my defense was literally the Matador.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. How do you feel about wearing shoes in the house?

[Jordan Schultz]

I'm really into the comfortable slippers. I love those. But those shoes don't go outside, so outdoor shoes are a serious. No, no. Inside the house. In the Schultz house.

[Chris Cody]

How are we about that in the shipping container? Because you asked me earlier this week. Chris, you asked me a question because I dropped the banana on the floor without the peel, and I was thinking about eating the banana after it was on the floor. You asked me if we were a house where we wear the shoes inside. And I did wear shoes inside and didn't know any better. Better until I got married and then I stopped wearing shoes inside. Are you guys wearing shoes inside or do the shoes get left out?

[Jessica]

I really don't feel that strongly either way. But if some. If I walk into a friend's house and they're one of those people where it's like shoes off at the door, that's always annoying. Like, I'm all for clean houses, but just like someone.

[Jordan Schultz]

Yeah, of course I don't do that. Yeah, I don't I don't mandate that. I think that's something that's a personal decision. And I go back to a Larry David episode in Curb where everyone is supposed to take their shoes off and Larry doesn't really want to. I feel like it's the guest decision.

[Stugotz]

Is it though? Because, like, what if you assume that there are shoes off house and you just walk into the house and you take off your shoes and just make yourself comfortable uninvited.

[Dan LeBatard]

It also depends if there's socks involved. Like, I don't want someone's bare little toes on my couch. I also don't know if I want their dirty shoes, though. But it just. It depends what the shoes are, I think.

[Jordan Schultz]

No, that's a great point by Jessica. The worst case scenario is the barefoot, which is disgusting.

[Chris Cody]

That's a no go, Roy.

[Mike Ryan]

I keep my shoes on in my house.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Do you wear your shoes shoes inside the house?

[Dan LeBatard]

I. For my own house, I have a designated pair of slippers, like hard bottom platform slippers I wear around. So I feel like I have shoes on my feet. Seas don't get cold, but they never go outside, so they're clean, man.

[Jessica]

The best part about this cold season for us down here in South Florida.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've been loving it.

[Jessica]

We get about two weeks of it is the socks in the house and at during night time. Because, like 10 months out of the year, 11 months out of the year, you can't wear socks to bed in Florida.

[Jordan Schultz]

It's too hot.

[Jessica]

I love going to bed with your socks on. If your feet sleep out, slip out of the covers, you're still warm. It's the best.

[Jordan Schultz]

Yeah, that's. That's south Florida. That's the best of South Florida. We know in New York today I woke up, it was 19 degrees. So, you know, enjoy that. Look at me, Louie Chris, were you.

[Chris Cody]

Trying to be cute there?

[Jessica]

I'm just saying, when my foot sometimes if I don't have socks on and my toes slip out, I'm like, oh, get back in there. What are you doing out here? But if I have socks on, I'm like, you can go out there for a little bit, go out, get a little fresh air, explore.

[Chris Cody]

I don't know what I'm doing there, but I do believe that Jess has feetsies. But you don't have toesies. And I don't know what I'm doing there because I think you have thick freckles. I don't know.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's see him.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, no, let's not see him.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's got some hobbit feet.

[Stugotz]

I bet.

[Chris Cody]

Well, I just think they're thick. I think they're. I think they're like canned hams.

[Jessica]

Thank you, Dan Freckles. I didn't know you had that thought of me, but thank you.

[Chris Cody]

No, I think that I. I don't think it's thick.

[Stugotz]

Huh?

[Chris Cody]

I don't think your feet are cute. We're gonna get a look here. We're gonna get a reveal.

[Jordan Schultz]

There it is.

[Chris Cody]

No, a sock doesn't. Well, you kind of.

[Jessica]

We just did a whole thing that we don't like feet. No, the feet are behind the paywall.

[Chris Cody]

We're talking about Some do.

[Stugotz]

Those are good socks. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Foot. Foot.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, we're not.

[Chris Cody]

Foot.

[Jordan Schultz]

What are you putting on the screen?

[Chris Cody]

And there is. There are Chris Cody's feet right there. Thank you. On the screen. Toast to Cuervo. Thank you, Jordan. A toast. Cuervo. Jordan, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the information, sir.

[Jordan Schultz]

My pleasure. Always enjoy it. Bye.

[Jessica]

The rare buy our pledge our flesh.

[Mike Ryan]

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