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Billy
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Dan Le Batard
The fear of Udonis Haslam as enforcer for our bucket has evidently worked. I'm in negotiations with Udonis Haslam to become the Bucket enforcer. We're gonna go to the Bucket here in this hour. Roy is paying his penalty of being an old timey baseball player. Zsasz is paying his penalty of doing the entire show in a be.
Billy
UD gonna do honestly, like if one of you guys decide. Not that I would do it, but if one of you guys decided. You know what? I'm not gonna pay this off. What's he gonna.
Dan Le Batard
He'll be in. Well, you can ask him when he comes in. You can ask.
Zas
Hopefully he trades us. Go Cherry.
Billy
I don't think he's gonna come in. I just gotta say, hasn't shown his face around here once yet. I don't think he's coming in.
Tony
You're gonna hit me, ud?
Billy
Yeah.
Tony
Is that what you're gonna do? You're gonna hit me?
Billy
We got laws here, brother.
Tony
Not gonna hit me.
Billy
Tony's already suing the company.
Tony
Make me.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, boy, I might.
Billy
Hop on. Make this a class action.
Tony
You know I'm not going to hit Billy Terrier.
Mike Ryan
Terrier quad and we can join.
Tony
We'll.
Dan Le Batard
We'll see how you guys do when he is here.
Tony
Are you threatening that he's going to hit me?
Dan Le Batard
Just. We'll see. You guys can take it up with him when he's here. I wonder if some of the bass in your voice will disappear when he's standing behind you.
Zas
Zazzle took a nap during the break.
Dan Le Batard
We'll find out together. Yes, but he's serving his punishment, and people are serving their punishment. I have to do mine tomorrow, so don't do it.
Billy
What's he gonna do, hit you?
Tony
He's not gonna walk right up to you Donna's house. I'm gonna poke him in the chest and say, what are you gonna do, hit me?
Billy
Well, no, that you hit him first and then he can hit you back, I think is what.
Tony
I will respect his personal space while also mentioning that his renegades fell to the Cyclones. The top of the table Cyclones. Because you know what happens when you go up against the Cyclones. Dan, do you know what happens?
Dan Le Batard
You lose to the Undertaker.
Spiro
That's right.
Tony
That's one on one with the undertaker. And it doesn't work out for folks. I'm telling you right now.
Zas
Smells different at the fronton right now.
Tony
He's like manu if you squished him. You smell it. You smell that.
Zas
Smells different at the front.
Spiro
Smells like cigs.
Dan Le Batard
It smells like Greg Cody passed out there on the floor. That's what it smells like. If you want.
Zas
Bringing up the darkest time in my life.
Tony
If you want to video team, show the undertaker.
Zas
Ah, there he is.
Dan Le Batard
If you want to do something sad, you want to dress like that in Miami to help the animals. We've got a bit of a crisis down here. One of many in Miami with the animal kingdom and people not taking care of the animals. But the humane society of greater Miami is doing something here on Saturday from 8:30 to noon. Food trucks, games, pet costume contest, adoptable dogs. It's Margaret Pace park on North Bayshore Drive. And you can check out the details there and at the website for thehumanesociety.org/walk the animals. If you want to participate in that. I've got a number of different football things that I want to get to. If you want your baseball, and I am excited for the baseball today. If you want your baseball pitch, clock is going to be in our two. I don't know if you guys have been watching late night television. It is. It's been nice. It's been heartwarming to see how Much these guys like each other. This was not the case for Letterman and Leno and Conan. The way that these people respect each other like each other. So you've got Kimmel in New York right now and Colbert is on his show and Colbert is, you know, also having Kimmel on his show. And I don't know if you guys saw the numbers, but did you see September 17th through September 23rd? How many cancellations Disney and Hulu got? Because this was not leadership developing a spine. This was the people speaking. And with Disney dollars making Disney, forcing Disney to stand up to an American Core Principle, 1.7 million people in a six day span canceled their subscriptions and got the attention of management and forced them to develop something.
Billy
But like how many resigned and now they can come out and say the board, hey, great quarter, look, record resigns.
Zas
Quarter million people rejoined. But it's a slow burn.
Billy
They'll be back. Also like some of the people were putting out the pictures like they would, they would buy the subscription just to then say they canceled it. And they have it for a year already because you already paid up front. And then in a year from now they'll just subscribe again and then you just inflate and boost the subscription. It's kind of a game.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, so it didn't work. It wasn't the American people speaking. Billy's got a different take on this. The 1.7 million number doesn't mean anything. Billy's got a different idea.
Billy
You think the people of America actually have a voice in anything that goes on anymore? Get out of here. That's the truest thing he's ever said.
Mike Ryan
In his entire life.
Billy
I can make a difference.
Tony
Corporatists versus oligarchs.
Billy
Listen, if you think you can make a difference, go adopt a dog this weekend at Dan's Dog a Thon, but can't say it's not gonna do anything.
Tony
I love the animals, the dogs and cats too.
Billy
A little less than the dogs, but we love cats.
Tony
We like cats.
Dan Le Batard
It is Saturday from 8:30 to noon. Humane Society, Miami. Dan's Dog a thon or Dan's Dog a thon, if you prefer to call it that. That's fine. Just make sure that you help the animals. Billy seem to be very concerned about Tua. Tua hasn't been the same since Billy bought his jersey.
Billy
That guy, you think that's what it is? Now that we're talking it out, that's what it is, right?
Tony
That might be with the thing with you.
Billy
Yeah, I mean I was, I Was not to make this too much about me, but, like, I was with my now wife for probably like nine years or something before we got engaged. And with Tua, it was like a year, and I bought a jersey. That was quite the commitment on my part. He's made me look like a fool.
Dan Le Batard
He continues to do that. Listen to this sound here from Tua explaining how it is that he's avoided concussions this year.
Tua Tagovailoa
Come to know or come to understand from what the doctors were talking about is, you know, your brain kind of sits in fluids. And, you know, if I'm eating eggs, bacon, and sausage, and there's not. Not much carbs. Like, if there's no bread or whatnot, you kind of drink water, and it'll just flush out of you, so you can't stay hydrated that way. But the carbs kind of help soak that in and. And stay there.
Zas
That's why I haven't had a concussion. I crush carbs. My brain. You can't rattle this thing.
Billy
I'm worried about this guy, you know, Worried about that.
Dan Le Batard
Who, me?
Spiro
That's what we're doing now. We're eating. We're eating bagels and toast to stop concussions.
Zas
Learned about hydration.
Spiro
This is. This is. This is the guy who is leading the team now. Oh, my God. What are we doing? What are we doing, Dan? What are we doing?
Tony
Legitimately forgot Zaz was. Did he just wake up?
Spiro
Like, what happened? You know, I'm getting a little bit sleepy. I'm not gonna lie. Like, I'm really comfortable here.
Dan Le Batard
It looks comfortable. It doesn't look like much of a punishment either. I gotta say.
Spiro
The punishment is trying to keep my eyes open. I. I'm very sleepy.
Zas
I love Tua just, like, trying to educate us. Like, guys, listen up. Yeah, I. I figured it out.
Spiro
It's smartest.
Tua Tagovailoa
Eggs, bacon, and sausage. And there's not. Not much carbs. Like, if there's no bread or whatnot.
Zas
I love the whatnot, Dan.
Mike Ryan
There's no bread. You don't eat bread, Dan.
Tony
That doesn't sound too bright.
Billy
I'm not a dietitian, but the carbs that helps with the water that I don't understand. Takes out the water. Should he be drinking more water? Like, he can't hurt his head because there's no water. Now what are we doing?
Zas
Makes his brain in all that liquid in the head and makes it kind of not bounce around as much.
Dan Le Batard
The.
Zas
The carbs fill it up more so it just. There's less bouncing around because of the Water.
Billy
So he's just. If he's super high, like, the brain.
Mike Ryan
Is in fluid, like you said, his.
Spiro
Brain is, like, sloshing around in fluid. And that means more concussions every time you eat.
Billy
No less concussion every time you eat.
Zas
A piece of toast. It just. It's more. It's not moving around like a pillow.
Mike Ryan
Like Zaz, like, sitting on the pillow.
Spiro
Do you think when he took that hit, the late hit in the game the other night, that one? Because you saw when he got up, he was, like, smiling, and he was shaking his head, said, yeah, bagel and cream cheese this morning, player.
Billy
The fluids are good or bad for the concussions.
Tony
Let's have them explain it to us one more time. Nah, don't. I'm dumber listening to it.
Tua Tagovailoa
Come to know or come to understand from what the doctors were talking about is, you know, your brain kind of sits in fluids. And, you know, if I'm eating eggs, bacon, and sausage, and there's not. Not much carbs. Like, if there's no bread or whatnot, you kind of drink water, and it'll just flush out of you, so you can't stay hydrated that way. But the carbs kind of help soak that in and stay there.
Zas
So the carbs help keep the water in your brain so that it keeps your brain safe. Whereas if you don't eat carbs, the water goes right through. You pee it out, and all of a sudden, there's nothing protecting your brain.
Tony
Okay, why did he rattle off proteins?
Mike Ryan
Those are good, too, but you need.
Dan Le Batard
A little bit of carbs.
Zas
Those aren't really carbs or whatnot.
Billy
So proteins, according to AI, are not inherently good for hydration, but carbs are good for hydration.
Tony
But he didn't list off. He didn't list, but then he said there.
Zas
When you drink water, if you hadn't drink. If you don't have carbs in your system, when you drink water, it goes right through you.
Dan Le Batard
My. My personal opinion on this is that the best way to cut down on concussions is to cut down on the football.
Mike Ryan
Those.
Tony
What do you know? He paid too much money.
Mike Ryan
You sound like Zazna.
Billy
But are you cutting down on football and having carbs or protein? Because that's the issue at hand.
Dan Le Batard
You can have carbs and protein, and if you cut out the football, you're gonna have fewer concussions.
Zas
Put butter on my toast.
Billy
These not around this office.
Dan Le Batard
When we're speaking about.
Spiro
I think it's wheat toast or white. Have we decided which is better for no concussions the fat one.
Dan Le Batard
Speaking of quarterbacks that are looking or sounding foolish, I don't know if you guys noticed, but immediately after we had a meeting on and we were talking, Tony said that the mime population in America is either endangered or extinct, but there is still a flourishing mime economy in Europe. But as soon as that happened that night, one of the jets celebrated a play by miming by doing a mime celebration during the Monday night football game. And Shedeur Sanders yesterday. And Shedeur Sanders mom has called, called Rex Ryan cancerous for some of his commentary on Shador Sanders. Here's Shador Sanders. Does this qualify for you guys as miming? He doesn't get the start this weekend. Dylan Gabriel gets the start. Joe Flacco has been benched.
Zas
And let's remember last week, Rex Ryan told him to shut his mouth. So I think that's what he's doing here.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, so is this successful miming from Shador Sanders as we try to bring back the mime in America an endangered species?
Tony
What do you think?
Dan Le Batard
You have to show, you know, show.
Tony
To some coaches just to have them.
Billy
Have that belief in you that you.
Tony
Can, you know, be ready.
Dan Le Batard
It was advertised as miming. That is not miming.
Zas
You gotta be as if you're in a box.
Mike Ryan
It's more pantomime.
Zas
You're not doing this. You're not miming.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, my mime, he's not miming. He's not pantomiming. He's just pretending to speak and no words or sounds are coming out of his mouth.
Tony
Bad for the podcast listeners while grinning.
Zas
He's grinning mouthing words and they're just like you want to say anything.
Tony
And he's just talking about a third string quarterback.
Spiro
See a lot of third string quarterbacks doing nonsense. This is nonsense.
Billy
Well, the thing, the thing about this move also is that he was a practice squad guy, as they told us before. But also Joe Flacco's been benched but is still listed as second string. So he's still the third string quarterback even after the benching of the starter.
Tony
I hear Zaz's point. You see a lot of third string quarterbacks do this nonsense. I don't see a lot of third string quarterbacks getting interviewed because I don't see them being a topic of daily conversation on cable sports debate shows.
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Mike Ryan
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Mike Ryan
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Dan Le Batard
Dan Lebatard John Zaslo how you love that catchphrase. Brand new used for opposing teams in the Triple St.
Tony
Again, this is the.
Spiro
Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Dan Le Batard
I I did see what I thought was a third string quarterback getting mugged in Dublin. I did. I thought news.
Tony
You got to report that though when.
Dan Le Batard
You put next to each other because we'll get to the bucket in a second but when I put that to a sound and that Shador Sanders non sound when I put those things next to each other and then I compare it to the quarterback that every defensive coordinator in the league is fearing because his confidence level is through the roof. The Rams are ram tough and Matthew Stafford getting away from the Lions organization that had two of its best players ever quit. Matthew Stafford got so much confidence just in leaving that he was throwing to Cooper cup in a Super bowl when everyone in the stadium knew he was going to throw to Cooper cup and he was doing it late in the super bowl with no look passes. Did you guys see that? I think Matthew Stafford made Xavian Howard quit last weekend and this isn't a play against Xavian Howard. But I want to show you guys also bad for the audio audience. I want to show you guys Matthew Stafford looking off the safety because he's looking one way and the Colt safety goes with Matthew Stafford's eyes. But that is not where Matthew Stafford is throwing the ball. He's not throwing the ball where he's looking. He's throwing the ball to a place he is not looking at.
Tony
Not completely lost for the podcast listeners because there is quite the audio payoff here. You can hear Matthew Stafford very excited and pleased with himself.
Dan Le Batard
Very happy, very happy that he tricked the safety saying you are a fool for looking at me. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. Don't look at me. See ya. See ya I mean, the confidence level on this dude. You get so many hours of these kinds of reps. The he's so confident back there, the old dog.
Tony
Dan. I love watching this old dog. He's learning new tricks.
Dan Le Batard
What are you doing out there? The no look. No look passes is what he's doing.
Tony
He's done this.
Mike Ryan
He did this earlier this year against the Titans where he threw a ball to Devonte Adams where he was looking the opposite way and fit it between two defenders. And Devonte Adams had a window of about six inches to get the ball through. And it was the most incredible pass I've ever seen.
Tony
What a month for Xavian Howard. Came out feeling really good about himself because he went against old carb protein tua and then in a matter of four weeks, having to go up against Puka and Matthew Stafford just decided, I'm not good at this anymore.
Billy
I'm gone two out of no look passes here. It was an interception that ended a game, but he tried.
Dan Le Batard
It is really rare for a player in the middle of the paychecks to quit a football season. Vontae Smith did it with the Bills, did it during the middle of a game where he just quit and retired. But Zavian Howard was, I thought, going to be important to the Colts. I thought that he was only available this off season because of an assortment of offense, field problems and a slowing of his speed with age combined to make him someone that not a lot of teams were interested in. When Xavian Howard was a great player, not a good player, was a great player for the Miami Dolphins, to see him quit in the middle of a promising season or at the beginning of a promising season, super strange because these guys, the way the contracts work, these guys are paid during the season. Guys do not quit during the season. They might quit during training camp, they might quit in the off season. But quitting isn't generally something that happens four games into a season.
Mike Ryan
And the Colts are good, right? I could see if the Colts were all in four and things were just miserable if they were the Panthers or if they were the Dolphins or if they were the Saints. But it's like the Colts have a chance to win the division, to like make some noise in the playoffs. And it's like, you know what?
Dan Le Batard
I'm good. Mike, before we go to the bucket here, can you get the gearhead real quick? I know you've been dying for about two weeks to talk about Denny Hamlin. You can't shut up about Denny Hamlin. You're somebody who's trying to get us the audience interested in the Denny Hamlin story because it's an interesting story. You've got a wild loose cannon driving around at high rates of speed, running relatives off the road.
Tony
Yeah, you've got him racing for Joe Gibbs Racing, but he co owns a racing team with Michael Jordan. He is actively suing nascar, a sport that he is, you can't say dominated, but he's been one of the best drivers of his generation. But he's never won a Cup Series championship. He's arguably the greatest driver to not have that to his name. He's won so many big races and this year kind of felt like it's going to be the year for Denny Hamlin. But the last two weeks have been truly bizarre. Again, he races for the legendary football coach Joe Gibbs. The last race prior to this one, he ran Joe Gibbs grandson off the track and he wrecked him, leaving everybody confused, including Joe Gibbs. Then the following week he is chasing down Bubba Wallace who is in first place. He owns this car. That's fine. He's paid by Joe Gibbs to win races. We all get that. But it seems as though he goes out of his way. If he just stays in his lane, he's going to win this race. In fact, he takes himself and Bubble Wallace out and Chase Elliott comes from out of nowhere to win the race. So let's have do we have the still image of Bubble Wallace flipping off his boss? Bubble Wallace gave an interview immediately post race he did, saying, you know, two.
Zas
Years he hand out the window.
Dan Le Batard
Hand out the window. Yes. This is a cheaters never prosper like this is a cheatin'.
Tony
He's giving middle finger to his boss for the world to see. Now Denny Hamlin kind of pulled rank. It's awesome to hear Denny Hamlin immediately after everyone has all these questions, go to his own podcast and try to give his POV on it. He defended his actions here, but Denny Hamlin's having a really interesting season. Can we queue up the video of Denny Hamlin trying to explain himself as to why he did this to Bubba Wallace? And it kind of sounds like he pulled rank on Bubba on Sunday. I am the driver. The person in the 11 car is the driver. That's where the disconnect, I think comes from. They expect me to be the guy with a 23:11 shirt on when I'm in the 11 car and that's just not possible. I was racing the 23 the same as I would race anybody in that moment. It is not up to me to get 23, 11 into the round of eight. My responsibility is to get the 11 into the round of eight. Joe pays me a lot of money to make sure that that car wins a championship or has a shot to. Could you imagine the outrage if I just backed off and let him have it? It's a kooky situation. Every time I explain this to somebody. No, he races for another team, but he owns the other team. And people wonder, well, how. How does that not appear to be a conflict? It does appear to be a conflict, but actions like that make you really confused. But it wasn't Eyes on the prize. And meanwhile, he didn't notice Chase Elliott running low. He gave Chase Elliott that win credit to the 9 car. But this is a really interesting, precarious situation. Like Denny Hamlin, even though he says all the right things in public, is feeling the pressure to not be motorsports greatest loser.
Dan Le Batard
Speaking of conflicts, before we go to the Dentech bucket here, I don't know if you guys have an opinion on this because we haven't talked about it in a while, but at this point, the highest paid broadcaster in broadcasting, Tom Brady, is distracting me during games because he's still bad at this. Like, it's not even that he's neutral or mediocre joker or milk toast or just there and I don't notice it. I'm noticing. And he's distracting me with it not being good. Has Tom Brady done anything during any of these broadcasts that you guys remember? Never mind the way that Tony Romo started where he was correctly predicting plays. Is there anything memorable that Tom Brady is giving the Fox broadcast for that 375 million guaranteed doll that any of you have from the first four weeks of the season that would indicate that he has improved at this? To you?
Tony
No.
Spiro
No. But that's not why. That's not why they pay him that money. I mean, you know that they pay him that money so that he's in the room with potential sponsors and advertisers like that. That's literally.
Dan Le Batard
But he's distracting me during the broadcast. That can't be like, it's not about you, Dan.
Mike Ryan
They don't care about you.
Dan Le Batard
Well, but they don't care about us. Okay, but you don't. I guess I'm asking you is, are you? I'm noticing when he's doing things incorrectly. I'm not noticing when he's doing them.
Spiro
Cor.
Dan Le Batard
And at this point, he needs to just be an offensive lineman. Don't get a penalty. So I don't notice you.
Tony
I was hopeful with Eagles Bucks because I think that was probably the best game of his career last year because he was giving us insight into the whole like weird dynamic with him and Baker and Baker replacing him and being successful despite the vibes being totally different. I was eager for that. But he's not meeting with these guys, so there's not much to build on over there and that that's really impacting him. I I thought, all right, if he's allowed to be in these meetings like he wasn't allowed last year, we'd get a better Tom Brady. I was confused as to why they decided to allow it, and that all unraveled with one still image of him in the Raiders press box. But it doesn't feel like a big game when he is on it. I find myself listening to Greg Olson, missing him on the bigger games. I was wrong about this. I thought Tom Brady would lean on his experience and storytelling because no one has experienced more for the audience and Tom Brady and we're just dying to hear all these stories. It hasn't worked out at all and there doesn't seem to be room for improvement.
Spiro
What a surprise. You can't just say, hey, I'm gonna be a good broadcaster and be a good broadcaster. You can't just say, hey, I'm here. I'm top guy.
Dan Le Batard
Now you think you can just be in bed and be a good broadcaster?
Spiro
Not everyone could do this.
Tony
Let me rephrase. There's plenty of room for improvement. He doesn't seem capable of improving. Moving.
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Tony
Yeah. Okay.
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Sts, you think you're big time or you're going to die big time.
Tony
That is on my infamous scale of 1 to 10. That's a, that's a 7.6 solid. That's a sui nominate right there.
Spiro
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Dan Le Batard
If he hasn't improved yet, what gives you the indication that he's going to improve? Because I've seen no indication so far as we prepare to go to the Dentech Bucket that he's capable of making memorable content.
Tony
I mean Dan in QB fashion, Sam.
Mike Ryan
Darnold was bad for a long time.
Tony
And then he got good. He, you know, Smith the same way.
Mike Ryan
Like maybe Brady would take a couple.
Tony
Of years and be good. That's not how it works in broadcasting. Guys that are like thought to be bad, they get Jason Witten. Oh no. Like people with prime time. Big marquee jobs. Maybe we do this experiment for a couple of seasons but at a certain point we gotta go.
Billy
Not as long though. As to Tony's point, he keeps adding value and making sales like they'll keep if he's not good at it. But he's bringing in a ton of money for them. They're keep them around.
Zas
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Dan Le Batard
Tony's going first here. And finally, people are paying their punishments around here. Tony, what did you get?
Tony
Picked a good one down.
Dan Le Batard
Let's see.
Tony
I got the Steelers.
Dan Le Batard
The Steelers are. Where are they? Here?
Zas
They might be on a buy.
Tony
They're on a bar.
Dan Le Batard
Congratulations.
Zas
The buy teams are Atlanta, Chicago, Green Bay and Pittsburgh.
Tony
I'm underheated this season.
Zas
Early buys.
Dan Le Batard
Zaz also has a buy because he's got the golden helmet of life for three straight weeks. Congratulations to Sleepy Zaz. Thank you, Mike. Go ahead and select from the bucket, please.
Tony
I lost last week, but I'm taking my sweet time to pay this off because I don't see you, Donna Zasm here in Fortune. Shit. Also, thoughts Sell old money Charlie, who's got a health battle ahead of him. We love you, Charlie. A former reaper in his own right.
Dan Le Batard
Wait a minute. The reaper's not always the same reaper.
Tony
Probably I shouldn't have invoked the reaper there. Yeah. Washingtonville Jaguars. I'm putting that back.
Dan Le Batard
They got.
Tony
The Kansas City Chiefs are at home.
Dan Le Batard
They're three and a half point dog against the Chiefs.
Tony
Frisky Charlie would be fine, though.
Zas
Kind of like the Jags.
Tony
Touch base with Charlie yesterday.
Dan Le Batard
Odd timing and judgment from you.
Tony
Well, we haven't said it. This one's really bad. I downgraded severely. Everybody is out for the San Francisco 49ers today. Everybody.
Dan Le Batard
The 49ers are playing against the Rams. And that line has gone up to nine and a half. It started at like three or 4:30.
Tony
No Jennings, no kiddo. All right. No Piersaw. I mean, they got white guys all over the field. And even the white guys are not on the back. Jones, I don't think football is for Juwan. Jennings. Got hurt every game.
Dan Le Batard
Billy, go ahead and select.
Billy
Got the Seahawks 3 1/2 point favorites against the Bucks. I'm putting that back.
Tony
I like them, too.
Dan Le Batard
At home is a 3 1/2 point favorite.
Zas
I'm with Billy.
Tony
I like the Bucks.
Dan Le Batard
It's one of the biggest favorites of the week.
Tony
He doesn't like them.
Billy
I got the Colts 7 1/2 point favorites at home.
Dan Le Batard
Look at that.
Tony
I'm jealous of them.
Zas
Look at that.
Dan Le Batard
Billy, you are a brave spirit spiral.
Tony
Diaz on that call for sure.
Dan Le Batard
Roy is going now. Moly Cox.
Tony
The Arizona Cardinals, they're a big favorite.
Dan Le Batard
Seven and a half point favorite, Tennessee. Come on, Roy.
Zas
Live dangerous.
Dan Le Batard
Chris Cody's gonna go now.
Tony
All right, here we go.
Zas
Rummaging.
Tony
He got in trouble for his quote.
Zas
I got the Packers.
Dan Le Batard
It feels like. Oh.
Tony
Bye.
Zas
Loving it.
Tony
I'm jealous of how well this is going for everybody else.
Dan Le Batard
Cam Ward got in trouble for saying they were ass.
Tony
Yeah. Yes. Keeping her buck. Yeah, she got. You know, they don't want. They don't want the rookie saying that.
Billy
Double agent, huh?
Tony
I don't like this Castellanos thing.
Billy
Yeah, that's weird.
Tony
You talk to Carson Vecker. You don't talk to anybody.
Zas
Reaper, climb over. Zaz. Don't walk around the camera.
Dan Le Batard
You want to hand me the bucket, Reaper?
Tony
No, you can't have two hands on a bucket. Oh, I don't know.
Billy
Conflict. Conflict of interest. Reaper. Like that. Don't do that.
Zas
Reaper.
Tony
Reaper.
Dan Le Batard
You want to walk all the way around. All of a sudden, they're militant about how they're protecting the rules around the bucket when they have.
Tony
How you do anything is how you do everything.
Billy
That's right.
Tony
Powerful.
Zas
I love how happy the reaper seems.
Dan Le Batard
I got the Dolphins at Carolina.
Billy
Ooh, that's good.
Tony
You're putting on black. Wow. Geez.
Zas
You're gonna regret that. Remember their offensive lineman?
Billy
Classic rotor.
Dan Le Batard
How did I pick it again?
Tony
It's still gonna work out for you.
Dan Le Batard
No.
Spiro
What?
Dan Le Batard
I don't think that's how that's supposed to work.
Tony
That's how it works. That's why you put it back. Because that chance is always live. I think everybody survives except for me.
Dan Le Batard
I'm a guaranteed L. So the Dolphins are going on the road to Carolina, and I don't know why you would trust that team on the Cars. I also don't know when we talk about Kansas City and Jacksonville. Mike Ryan threw back Jacksonville. Kansas City is a big favorite in that game. Like, to make them a big favorite on the road in a Monday night game is giving them a lot of credit for what happened against Baltimore. Chris, you say it's not that big a favorite. They're telling me that they think that the Chiefs are seven points better than the Jags if they're making them on a Monday night game. I think think Monday Night dogs covered a 70% clip throughout the history of Monday Night Football because you're the only game and on Monday night might be even a little bit higher than that. The Chiefs evidently changed a whole lot of opinions just with Xavier Worthy coming.
Zas
The rule for if it's a big line or not is if it's less than 5. Small line. If it's 5 or more big line.
Dan Le Batard
The only reason that I say three and a half points is a big line is because games in that sport are so close. I that last week it was weird to See in the witching hour, as they went into the witching hour, the only one score game was Bills and Saints. Because the last few weeks of the witching hour and honestly the last three years of the witching hour, what they've done in that sport to legislate equality is a bit crazy. Basketball with its salary cap does not create the kind of parody that football does. There is nothing like football in terms of creating. These teams are close and you've seen very little this season that you can describe as a surprise. The Saints play the Bills close and you're surprised even though the Bills, the record of the Bills opponents is terrible. Cleveland beating Green Bay biggest surprise this year is a surprise. And it can only be so much of a surprise because Cleveland's at home and the spread is seven points but you've seen very few double digit spreads this year.
Spiro
Yeah, I, I would, I would point out though. Yeah, well it's hard to do it in the NBA. They do have seven consecutive unique champions, you know, now, now going into the year, like you kind of know who those teams could be that could win, but you got a different team winning the whole thing every year now.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, but here's what I'm maintaining though. You're right. After decades of basketball being totally lopsided by this, the champions are indeed more random over the last seven years empirically than they'. Been. But you know what's not happening in those playoff games? Buzzer beaters close games. These three point games at the end where all of a sudden somebody's hitting a shot you remember forever because the three point shot has made it. So the distortions in these game Sevens are always 20, 30 point games. They're not close, they're double digit games. Football's never that like football. It's weird when I'm watching last weekend and the games aren't close in the witching hour where I'm just now at this point expecting, if you're giving me eight or nine games, half of them at the end are going to be everybody's tearing each other's head to get six yards.
Mike Ryan
And it was almost like the super bowl last year, right? The super bowl was a blowout and everybody's like, oh damn, this was supposed to be a great game they had played two years prior and it was a great game there. And it's like seeing a blowout in that sport just kind of feels weird now.
Spiro
I will say something that I don't love at the end of these NFL games, which, you know, most of them Are close. I don't like because the kicking is so good. Now you start like the final drive on the 30 yard line, all right? If I pick up 30 yards, I'm ready to kick a field goal, the buzzer. Like, like you don't get these long drives to win a game.
Dan Le Batard
It's unsatisfying. Vic Fangio of all people has had some opinions on the kicking. I will say though, when you guys go ahead and name them, the Seahawks crush the Saints. Name all the games the, the Carolina crushed the Falcons. Name all of the games this season where somebody goes out there and just wins by three or four touchdowns. And the game is decided very early.
Spiro
Patriots, Panthers last week.
Tony
Colts, Dolphins, Lions, Browns last week.
Spiro
Even though Panthers, Falcons.
Tony
Yeah, that was.
Dan Le Batard
I mentioned that, but it's. It, it's half a dozen. They're playing a lot of games. To have to play a month's worth of games and you can name the six of them because there aren't that many is a little bit nuts. But let's play Vic Fangio talking about. What's he talking about here? Is he talking about the number of missed kicks this season?
Zas
Oh, no, he's talking about the length of these kicks and how it's changed the games. And you know, he might accuse people of doing some stuff.
Vic Fangio
These kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically changed the kicking game. So it's almost like they need an asterisk here. Like it was the live ball error or the asterisk for those home run bonds and Sosa McGuire were hitting.
Tony
Is the shape different?
Vic Fangio
No, the. The. In years past, the officials would rub them down or other people would rub them down and you play with them. Now the balls are in house all week and they kick those balls that they've had and nobody else touches them. And the guy in Dallas is going to hit a 70 plus yarder this year. You can just book it. It's drastically changed the game. The kicking game and the field. Field goal guys have longer range than they used to. Kind of like Brady Anderson with the Orioles. And we went from 15 homers to 50 in one year.
Dan Le Batard
He used performance enhancing drugs.
Vic Fangio
I am insinuating.
Tony
Which reminds me when we invoked how does Aroldus Chapman do it at his age in that sport?
Mike Ryan
That's reckless.
Tony
No, it was reckless of us to not mention it.
Zas
No, it was reckless of us to talk about him and not crochet with how great he was that game one.
Spiro
I'mma tell you something that's kind of, that's kind of BS that you get to just get a ball, a different ball, a ball that no one's touched to kick. You should have to use the ball that was used the previous play.
Zas
I think that the other team. I like, they should. I rub down the other team's balls, they rub down my balls.
Billy
None of that is how football works. Each team always uses their own balls.
Zas
That's what he. Apparently it used to be a league thing and now the team use the.
Spiro
Ball from the pre previous play.
Billy
Now there's just kicking balls is what he's saying.
Dan Le Batard
You guys mentioned that New England Carolina game, and it made me think of Chaminade alum Chris Myers walking through football purgatory, always getting that game. And I know he just looks at the schedule and he's like, bleep, you fuck. Like just bleep. I think he.
Zas
He looks ahead, like at the whole week's schedule. He's just like, that's my game.
Dan Le Batard
He's. But Chris. They're never going to let Chris Myers be anything other than the guy broadcasting this sixth game. They're not allowing him room for promotion as they paid Tom Brady $375 million to be terrible.
Spiro
Do you think he books the flight before he gets the actual.
Tony
There is nobody more unhappy that the Bucks are good with Baker than Chris Myers. Because you could always guarantee. You could say your watch to it. Chris Myers was on the Bucs call. Do you think when the Colts schedule comes out, Spiro did. He's just puts that on the fridge. He's like, he knows exactly where he's.
Mike Ryan
Going to be if the Raiders are playing the Colts.
Dan Le Batard
He is there.
Mike Ryan
He's going to be there this week. I don't even know, but I know he's there.
Tony
No, he's got to be there.
Spiro
I'm a check Carolina.
Dan Le Batard
That game. Carolina, New England.
Tony
Oh, that game's on Fox. Spiro will not be there.
Dan Le Batard
I did not want to watch that game. I had no interest. I haven't wanted to watch a game. What were you guys saying of Carolinas for a while? What were you guys offensive linemen? There was somebody. There was somebody that we. There was a team we were talking about in the other room the last couple of days that someone identified them as the worst franchise in all of sports. And it got me to thinking because through my lifetime, the Clippers and the Lions are sort of viewed as that's the worst franchise there is. And somewhere in there, the Charlotte Bobcats get to skate a little bit.
Tony
I've been recommending the Angels get in this conversation when you consider the resources they've applied to not be as bad as they've been.
Dan Le Batard
That was the conversation we were having. You mentioned the Angel Angels because Albert Pujols is going to be their manager and you were wondering whether the Angels were the worst franchise in all of sports.
Spiro
My guy, Spiro Adidas has Tennessee at Arizona.
Tony
We knew it. AFC South High.
Mike Ryan
By the way, how does Fox steal a classic CBS game like Colts and Raiders? That is a CBS first class game. There is no way that should be played on Fox and that game should always be 425.
Dan Le Batard
Guess where I tell me where Chris Myers is going to end up this week because I do believe that when. When Chris Myers gets Carolina, when he gets Carolina and the Patriots, he's saying bleep his bosses because he's not allowed any upward mobility.
Spiro
Calling football this weekend, Chris Myers has Vegas at Indianapolis.
Tony
If I grab a random fan, I'm like, hey, do you follow baseball? Oh, you know, kind of tangentially. All right, name the three best players of this generation. They might go off the top of their head. T.R. trout, Otani, Pujols. And I'd be like, they played on the same team at the same time and they were bad folks.
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Tony
Hey, Jeremy, old buddy, old pal. Hey, Mike. I want to talk to you about Miller Lite. You and I have bonded over these last few weeks talking about our shared love of Miller Lite. That's right. A great partner of our show for practically its entire existence.
Mike Ryan
It's been a partner of this show since I was 10 years old, and.
Tony
It'S been around for 50 years, and they've been a part of our show for almost 20. We're approaching incredible partner status with Miller Lite.
Mike Ryan
I mean, to think that people were.
Tony
Celebrating at my bar mit mitzvah with Miller Lite as they were a partner of this show is pretty incredible. You're talking about the moments that are made better by making those times, those special times. Miller Time Jeremy, there's nothing like cracking open Miller Lite with your crew this football season. It's especially true whether it's a touchdown you didn't see coming or just arguing about fantasy lineups you already know you're gonna lose. Miller Lite has been the taste you can depend on for 50 years. Brewed for flavor with simple ingredients, rich toffee, not notes that iconic golden color. And here's a kicker. Jeremy.
Dan Le Batard
What's that?
Tony
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Date: October 2, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Billy, Tony, Zas, Spiro, Roy
In this fast-paced, laughter-filled hour, the crew dives into a mix of sports chaos and South Florida absurdity. Front and center: the show's fantasy football “Bucket” punishments and the always-colorful cast, all sharing their signature takes on the latest in sports, media, and pop culture. This episode features everything from Udonis Haslem’s potential role as a “Bucket enforcer,” to confusion over Tua Tagovailoa’s concussion logic, a Denny Hamlin NASCAR soap opera, harsh Tom Brady broadcasting reviews, and lots of loving Miami weirdness.
Expect classic Le Batard Show energy—irreverent, quick-witted, layered with inside jokes, banter, and a uniquely Miami sensibility. There’s seriousness in between, especially when plugging local animal causes or the realities of sports injuries, but above all, it’s about finding laughter and community in the chaos.