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Dan LeBatard
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Tony
This is the Dan Levator show with the ST Podcast.
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Dan LeBatard
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Mike Ryan
Lucy what I think happened is they looked into the shipping container. They saw Chris Cody, Mike Ryan, Billy Gill and Jeremy Teshe. Looking back at them, I was like, anybody else? Can anybody else talk college basketball? Dan doesn't know that I'm doing this. And I want to start off by saying, huge win for Carolina. First off, Joe Lenardi, Seth Davis, Seth Greenberg, John Fanta, John Rothstein, and every West Virginia government official dead to me. Lucy it's been a brutal couple of days for West Virginia.
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Dan LeBatard
Yeah, they're not having a particularly good time. So it started Selection Sunday. I guess you could say it started in the Big 12 tournament. But selection Sunday, West Virginia is left out in favor of Carolina, or at least that's the team they're kind of focusing on, the one that they were like, we deserve to be here more than Carolina does. So West Virginia is all levels of mad. And despite that, there are probably a lot more serious problems happening in that state. The governor was like, nope, this is not allowed. You have done it. You have waged war with the state of West Virginia. And so he comes out and is like, ncaa, it's coming for you. Good luck. Hope you're ready for it. Then we're going to destroy the selection committee. All of that is happening and they have all their focus on destroying the ncaa, that they have no idea that their head coach is out interviewing for other jobs as they speak, as they are taking down the NCAA. Darian DeVries is at Iowa, is at Indiana having these conversations. Unfortunately, he picked wrong, chose the wrong choice, excuse me, and decides to sign with Indiana and leaves. So West Virginia now has waged war with the ncaa. They're coachless. They're not in the NCAA tournament. They're not in the nit. They declined the invite. So now things are bad. And just like a little cherry on top, the team that they focused on, that they were like, we're better than Carolina. Carolina in the first four beats the literal crap out of San Diego State to the point where I had to turn it off because it felt excessive. I said, I don't want to watch this. Not safe for young viewers. It was such a beat down.
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, they cut it to 30. And it almost didn't tell the full story of how bad that game actually was. But West Virginia watching from home like everybody else, and I actually have a first round game. I'm most excited to watch. I'm going first game of the tournament. The 89 matchup. It is Louisville and Creighton. I can't figure out the disrespect the committee gave to Louisville because in the.
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Dan LeBatard
Final AP poll, I think you're pronouncing it wrong.
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Mike Ryan
I think Louisville, you kind of just have to. Yeah, Louisville was an AP Top 10 team. The final poll before the tournament, the committee gives them an eight seed, implying that there's 28 teams better than them. Mike Malley was showing me this conspiracy on Twitter that he thinks people got Louisville and Memphis confused and they switched their seeds because Memphis is a five and all the metrics kind of support the opposite. But this Louisville team, really fun. They brought in Pat Kelce from the College of Charleston. They have the Sunbelt.
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Dan LeBatard
He's weird. I like him.
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Mike Ryan
He's got. He's got weird energy. And he brought in the Sunbelt player of the year, Terence Edwards Jr. From that James Madison team that pulled off the 512 upset of Wisconsin last year. Speaking of that Wisconsin team, they also brought in Chucky Hepburn from. From that Wisconsin team who was the first team all acc, ACC Defensive player of the year. And Stu Gotts. Stu Gotts always tells you when you get to March, it's all about experience guard play. Louisville, Louisville. Nobody has more experience guard play than Louisville. But that Creighton Louisville game, great way to kick off the tournament with two teams that have a legit case for Feeling under seated with the women's tournament. What can you tell us about the drama that they had with the unveiling of their bracket?
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Dan LeBatard
I don't know if there's ever been a. A tournament release where so many coaches have been upset about 1 seeds, which I know it's only two out of the four, but that's a high number that it's happened twice. Usually people are pretty pleased to be a one seed. So it started with UCLA getting the number one overall seed. They only have what, two losses on the year to USC both times. And then South Carolina got the second overall seed. So Don Saley was super, super upset saying that South Carolina deserved the number one overall seed. I test he's absolutely right. Correct. What South Carolina did after that Yukon loss, which was awful. It was a terrible loss. I haven't seen South Carolina lose like that in a very long time. They've completely turned it around. They are playing like the best team in the country. And then you saw that in the SEC championship with where Texas like didn't stand a chance. It was all South Carolina the entire time. So Don, Sally comes out and she's like, we should be the number one overall seat. Like, this is, this is messed up. And then she kind of pulled like a little bit what Alabama did when they were left out of the playoff and was like, we're not going to schedule tough teams anymore if we're not going to be rewarded for that. Which I was like, okay. And I do agree that South Carolina is the best team in this field. They probably should have been the number one overall seat. However, UCLA was number one overall seed. UCLA has a head to head win over South Carolina. And when they have a head to head win over like a team, you're like, girl, I think you're right. But they do have a head to head win over you and it's hard to argue with that. And so I do think it's totally valid. I think they're the best team in the tournament. I think they're going to win the whole thing this year. Especially because I think that Don Saley definitely believes her team is the best overall team in this field. I think she's doing a little bit of the Kirby smart thing. You know, everybody's doubting you. They didn't even think you were the best team in the country. No one believes in you. South Carolina women's basketball. And so now that there's like somewhat of a chip on the shoulder for South Carolina, I think it's pretty much over for Everybody else at the same time, usc, the other one, the one in California, they were like, we don't like our number one seed. I think this one's a little bit more valid, especially because USC leads the series against UCLA 2 to 1. And the first two times they played USC was really dominant over UCLA in a way that's made me kind of nervous about UCLA's tournament chances. And so USC got the fourth overall highest seed, which just doesn't really sit right when they have those head to head wins over ucla. I understand that UCLA beat them at the Big Ten championship game, but that game was dominated by USC for a large chunk of it. Like UCLA just came back and kind of had one of those moments. And so what's really, really upsetting is that USC got Yukon as the two seed in their, in their region. And nobody like every two seed is good, but Yukon is a particularly good two seed. As we talked about just a little bit ago, Yukon beat the brakes off South Carolina. Like this is not your average two seed. And so the fans are super upset because it's like juju Page is a matchup. You get in the Final Four, not the Elite Eight. So USC is unhappy about their seating. The other USC is unhappy about their seating. Texas and ucla, pretty quiet. They seem to be pleased with everything.
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Mike Ryan
Someone in my ear just said that Dan found out about this and he wants me out of the studio immediately. So I'll leave with one final stat. In the first 13 NCAA men's basketball tournaments that have featured the first four, at least one first four team has survived until the round of 32 in all but one of those seasons. So if you're looking for that first four team that will most likely advance past Thursday and Friday, all bias aside, it's got to be North Carolina.
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Mike Ryan
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Tony
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
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Lucy
This episode of the Dan LeBatard show with Stugots is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
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Stugotz
Les Taylor. Just less he killed it, more the show.
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Chris Cote
He's been right about a lot. And he knows ball. Everyone knows that about Taylor. And this is March. Last I checked, Taylor, they told us the SEC was 10 bits better than the ACC. Why do they keep doing this?
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Mike Ryan
Who could have seen Texas, the team that was 8 and 13 since January 1st losing. Who could have possibly seen that coming?
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Stugotz
Your shit, Taylor, 6 and 12 in the conference. Texas was.
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Chris Cote
Give him that stat. No, no. Give him that stat that you gave me.
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Mike Ryan
I have to get my phone out.
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Zaslow
I love Mike claiming un as a for Miami, seemingly acc.
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Chris Cote
They do this every year. And sometimes it's Miami carrying them, sometimes it's ncc, the bad teams that carry them.
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Stugotz
You can catch Zaslow on ESPN Radio. And something that I've noticed. I noticed it this morning when I was gone downstairs that on espn, one of the anchors on espn, I did not recognize that happens a lot to me, but looked extraordinarily young to me. And the thing that I wanted to talk to you guys about is if the highlight show is endangered and if the sports anchor is endangered. Because we have sports that we consume through highlights. The casual fan observes through highlights. The NBA chief among them. But observing it on highlights on your phone or through your social media is different than having to go to your television. And I assume I don't Assume. I actually know that throughout the industry, everyone's being asked to take pay cuts because media is shrinking, media is in trouble, and there are fewer jobs in general than there used to be. And as a practice, ESPN makes sure that the four letters are the thing that matters the most and that other parts are interchangeable or disposable. I think, I think Scott Van Pelt is so popular that ESPN will continue to pay him. But I also know that if ESPN lost Scott Van Pelt, it wouldn't be some sort of seismic thing just because in general, the sports anchor is less valuable throughout, everywhere in television than he or she has been almost the entirety of my lifetime.
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Roy
Well, that part is.
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Stugotz
Go ahead.
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Roy
I'm sorry, Roy.
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Tony
Well, I don't think we're losing the highlight show. I mean, Sports center is getting expanded out to Disney plus with Gary Stryking, Randy Scott.
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Lucy
Those are the best two doing it in terms of chemistry with each other right now. I know like Linda Cone's still doing it and there are still like.
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Roy
No, they're the new guys. They are, they're the together. They're, they're the new big show. You know, instead of Dan Patrick and Keith Olverman and Scary Streisky and Randy Scott and they're fantastic. But I feel like one of the big complaints that fans that viewers have with ESPN television these days is that they want more Sports Center. They want more highlight shows that they miss that part. You know, the same way that, you know, you get older, people say mtv, oh, why don't they have videos anymore? I feel like we're in that place with ESPN where they want more Sports center and Scott Van Pelt, by the way, I think you're wrong about that part because that show is pretty damn important. He gets amazing guests after all the big games. Be it, you know, if it's college football game or if it's NBA or even if it's, you know, for next year, Major League Baseball. He gets the great guests on the field, on the court, right after the game. That shows pretty popular. I think you're wrong about the spot.
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Chris Cote
No, and, and it fixed the ratings issue with the, that time slot. Sports Center. I read a think piece that actually said stop thinking of him as a sports anchor. Start thinking of him as a late night talk show host because his ratings kind of command that a little bit. You need to start. Yeah. Well, that is good spin from the agent. Trying to get incredible spin. No, this is my price range. I'm more like Jon Stewart price range than you know Randy Scott Price range. But you should absolutely think of him as a nighttime host because he's emceeing an evening talk show.
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Mike Ryan
I actually found that stat.
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Tony
Oh, good.
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Chris Cote
Thank God.
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Mike Ryan
Since 2015 in the NCAA tournament, wins above seed expectation, the ACC 21.1, the most of any conference. SEC minus 4.6. Overrated.
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Stugotz
Jeremy just whispered to me, is this what it feels like when I talk?
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Zaslow
Is it that bad?
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Chris Cote
You're less nervous.
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Stugotz
But you don't have the accompanying visual aid of popping out from under Mike Grimer.
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Chris Cote
That is endearing.
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Stugotz
The Scott Van Pelt thing, just to clarify. Okay. Because I want to make sure people understand this. I mean it as no indictment as Scott Van Pelt. He's as good as anyone who has ever done that. I'm just saying the construct of what it is these things are. It makes it so that that kind of personality is less important than he or she has ever been. And the movement throughout the industry seems to be that it doesn't matter who the anchors are. You guys are telling me that there's a new big show because Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann changed television, but they were also at the center of bucking up against ESPN on espn. Wanted them to change television, but wanted ESPN to get the credit for changing television. Not any individual to have the personal power to be able to do anything that harms those letters if they leave. In fact, I would say that one of the chief forms of leadership at ESPN has been simply to make sure that no one else establishes the precedent of being more important than the other folks on the network. It's.
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Chris Cote
It's important we experience that.
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Stugotz
Yeah, well, I mean I would say that just in general it's not even a bad thing to do as a business because it's one way to keep costs down. So I like that late show. I like Scott Van Pelt as a personality. But I don't believe that if I suddenly took Scott Van Pelt off of that and did a form of the same show that the larger entity of ESPN would be harmed anym then it's already harmed by whatever it is that you think the defections or the loss of quality is.
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Chris Cote
You're getting buy in from Chris here, but the ratings speak for themselves. Like when he took over, he saved that show that was in free fall and he's built an audience. So I guess in the hypothetical I would agree with you, but I have real life examples and data that backs up that he matters.
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Roy
I think it's on the crawl right now on ESPN. Dan LeBatard says, Scott Van Pelt, not important.
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Stugotz
Not what I said, not what I would ever say. I would say that if ESPN chooses to make its midnight flagship something that it's pouring all of its resources in, because one of the things you guys just said is, oh, he's got the greatest guest. That has nothing to do with Scott Van Pelt.
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Lucy
Partnerships with leagues like that.
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Stugotz
Scott Van Pelt is being put in a good position to have maximum support and resources and do that better than most people have ever done it.
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Zaslow
But the way that he's created moments in these interviews and relationships with the people that he's interviewing makes it so that the people who are being interviewed actually want to participate. Because we've seen. I mean, we see it on regional sports broadcasts, we see it during games and quarters.
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Roy
Nobody wants to talk with so and so it's like, oh, I'm going on with Scott.
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Zaslow
Scott Van Pelt. And that matters. And I don't know that they're Stephen A.
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Stugotz
Included.
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Zaslow
I don't know that there's another personality at ESPN that could be hosting that particular show at that particular time that would be able to have the viewership, comfort with the athletes and ability to be serious and joke around the way that SVP does. He's. He's a singular talent at that network right now.
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Stugotz
Wow, that's something to say there. Even as I admire all of his.
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Zaslow
Why did they show my fist bump?
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Chris Cote
He made a good point. You gotta. That's an excellent point. Because he can.
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Zaslow
Good point.
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Chris Cote
He can be humorous. But, like, say there was something tragic. God forbid something tragic happens.
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Zaslow
Exactly.
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Chris Cote
ESPN trusted guy. Now they're bringing in SVP and he's going to anchor that coverage.
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Roy
Yeah, I think so.
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Stugotz
Got a couple of top five lists for you here on college basketball related content. What are you shrugging your shoulders about?
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Tony
I'm saying, finally, dan, we got 47 games in the next two days. We've talked zero.
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Lucy
I thought you wanted mine. I got one, too.
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Stugotz
We did a Sunday show that was not zero, zilch. We did three hours on Sunday. I saw about the tournament.
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Roy
I saw.
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Lucy
Is Sunday night last.
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Zaslow
Starts the week.
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Stugotz
Right?
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Chris Cote
Starts the week. To me, it was last week, but it is also.
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Zaslow
But it ends the week.
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Chris Cote
It's called the seventh Day.
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Stugotz
But no, Sunday is the end of last week. Sunday is the beginning of.
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Lucy
Technically the beginning of a week and all that stuff.
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Chris Cote
But no, it's starts like biblically, maybe new. We start on Sunday.
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Stugotz
Put it on the poll. Juju Sunday, the end of last week or the beginning of this week at Lebatar, or both.
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Chris Cote
This one's going to be hotly contested, even though there is a legitimate right answer.
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Stugotz
I think you say the calendar and I'm saying what's going to come back on this poll is that Sunday was last week. That Monday is the beginning of the week. That when your workweek starts, that's the beginning of the week. I don't care what the calendar says. Your boss says, get to work. Monday's the beginning of the week. Your boss overtakes the calendar and all of time history to say that Monday is the beginning of God.
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Chris Cote
Generally, the sentiment during these times. I don't care what the fact is, I'm going off the gut.
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Stugotz
No, I'm polling is what I mean. I'm going off the boss. Making it a democracy on the Internet. That's what I'm asking you. And I'm just asking. That's a good poll question. And wait till you get shocked by. Everyone's going to say Monday. Everyone's going to get this one wrong. Even though you say, the fact is this. Everyone's gonna go with not the fact. Let's go first to Chris's top five list. What is your top five list? What is the subject matter?
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Lucy
I am ranking Sports Thursdays. Top 5 Thursdays on the sports calendar.
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Stugotz
All right. Any olives here or just.
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Lucy
No Olis.
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Stugotz
All right, so just. Are there five great sports Thursdays? Zasla? I don't think that's why they're.
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Roy
I could think of. I think there's some.
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Mike Ryan
You think?
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Roy
I think you can. Yeah.
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Stugotz
You think you can come up with six?
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Roy
Well, should I give a few Right at the top.
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Stugotz
I can't ruin his only five. And I don't know, Pickens. All right. I'm not totally sure how he's going to get to 5.
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Roy
Better not leave any mine off.
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Stugotz
Let's. Well, I don't think there are six. So let's see what his number five is.
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Lucy
Number five is Thanksgiving football. Three football games.
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Stugotz
You got four better than that.
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Lucy
I do. Number four, opening night, NFL week one. So it's the last few years, it's been Thursday night, Hall of Fame game, number three, NFL draft round one, Thursday night.
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Roy
You got that better than the first game of the NFL season.
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Lucy
Something about the draft. Yeah, because my team's usually not playing. It's like Bills, Chiefs, like, I like it, but the draft, everyone's got hope.
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Chris Cote
Your team is never playing because it's the defending champion. It's kicking off but you know, actually not true. They got to play another team than the Culpepper.
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Lucy
It's never the Dolphins though.
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Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
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Lucy
Number two today, March Madness Thursday, 12:15, Creighton, Louisville.
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Chris Cote
I think I know number one.
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Stugotz
Yeah, we all do.
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Lucy
Number one. Masters Thursday.
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Roy
Yeah, it was pretty easy what he just did. That was like nothing. Yeah.
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Stugotz
Do you have a sixth one?
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Roy
No, no, I. I probably would have had trouble coming up with five because I would not have had the NFL draft there.
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Lucy
Jeremy tried to make the argument for MLB opening day regular.
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Tony
It falls on a Thursday regular opening day.
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Stugotz
No, it fell on. It's 6am on a Thursday.
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Lucy
Well, it's.
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Stugotz
No, next Thursday.
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Lucy
Technically next Thursday.
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Stugotz
Andy versus skiing next Thursday. Okay, so not the fake opening day, the real opening day.
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Chris Cote
Yeah.
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Stugotz
Okay. And Tony's top five list is just five players to watch.
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Tony
No, no, no, no. Don't, don't, don't do that to it. Don't diminish what we're doing here. Okay? The NCAA tournament. Everybody on the planet will be watching this. Maybe not everybody, but a lot of people on the planet will be watching.
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Chris Cote
Out a DK lineup. I'm watching this one.
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Lucy
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Tony
So Dan, what we're going to be doing is the top five guys you need to be watching during this NCAA tournament.
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Chris Cote
Right.
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Stugotz
Which is different from what I said.
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Tony
Yes, completely different from what you said. I don't know what you said, but I didn't like it.
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Stugotz
Okay. It didn't sound like you liked it. And, and not everyone is going to be watching the tournament. Not even most people. And you say a lot of people are going to be watching, but when it comes to earth, it's not even a lot of people. But go, continue.
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Tony
Gamblers will be watching. That's what's most important. The gamblers will be watching and taking note of again, these top fives.
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Stugotz
Well, there isn't. Like I saw, I saw John Oliver do a piece last week on sports betting. And one of the things that he did was point out, among other things, that people are betting ping pong and betting on ping pong in Poland right now. What we're talking about today in college basketball, there's nothing quite like this when it comes to gambling, which is a whole lot of people gambling on something that they know very little about while doing it. Cuz it's just sports is happening and on my television, what I'm tuning in for is just action with my money. It's not necessarily that I care about St. Mary's or Virginia Commonwealth or know anything about the participants.
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Roy
It's the. The most reckless you could possibly be with money. That's NCAA tournaments and gambling on it. Right?
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Stugotz
I don't think it's the most reckless.
- [28:06]
Zaslow
There's a lot of other things.
- [28:09]
Roy
You're gambling your money on something you know nothing about.
- [28:15]
Stugotz
It is often the case. It's not the case for everybody, but in terms of concentrated, I don't think there's anything like these. The. These two rounds here at the beginning where you're just inundated with action all over the place. It's just what Olymp.
- [28:32]
Chris Cote
Olympics were pretty good, too.
- [28:34]
Stugotz
Yeah, that was a rush. See, now, I don't think of that as the gambling event that this is.
- [28:39]
Chris Cote
It never was until this year because the coverage is so much better now, today than it's ever been, that you can legitimately follow everything. And the Olympics, while you have your niche sports that I would readily admit I know nothing about, it's also like the second best international women's soccer competition. And you get to actually watch all these games and there's action going on literally all day. That was a sports betting equinox that I hadn't quite experienced. And it's on a par with March Madness.
- [29:13]
Stugotz
Do any of you feel some of the dirty that you feel at the NFL? Sundays at the end of the day where you've just been in your house watching something on the couch or in.
- [29:23]
Roy
A bar, dirty because, like, you're a sloth?
- [29:25]
Stugotz
Yeah, just. Just.
- [29:26]
Roy
Yeah, that's what the next couple days are.
- [29:27]
Stugotz
Too much.
- [29:27]
Roy
That 10 hours, it's not too much, but. Yeah.
- [29:31]
Stugotz
Well, if you feel dirty, it's probably because it is too much.
- [29:34]
Roy
No, no, I feel dirty, but it's not too much. Like, the dirt's worth it. I feel gross. I've been sitting on my couch all day. The food, the drinking. But at the end, I might. I may feel like a sloth, but I'm like, this was a great day. I like, I enjoyed the whole day. And you know what? I'm gonna do it again when I wake up tomorrow.
- [29:50]
Stugotz
I have not been to Vegas on Super Bowl Sunday, so I don't know if there's anything that compares to what is presently going to happen in Vegas as soon as this thing kicks off. But in terms sports thing, the two things that I have felt that are strongest in Vegas is Heavyweight fight when that mattered, and you had a heavyweight champion that people cared about. And what this week is in the sports books. Cause it's just.
- [30:16]
Roy
Oh, and 9:00am over there.
- [30:17]
Chris Cote
Oh, it's insane.
- [30:18]
Roy
You know how time zones work. It's 9am There.
- [30:20]
Chris Cote
I wasn't there for the first round, but I was there for a sweet 16 once, and that was as electric as I've ever been.
- [30:29]
Roy
Even though it's just one game at a time by the sweet 16, right.
- [30:32]
Chris Cote
It'S still like there is so much action. It is a palpable buzz that you feel in the sportsbook on Sweet 16 Day.
- [30:40]
Stugotz
Oli Tony, by the way, putting this out there.
- [30:42]
Tony
Tony Brackett's maybe live from Vegas for the first day of the tourney next year, I'm sure. All right, cool. Perfect. All right, Dan, top five guys you need to be watching in the tournament. And again, that's a list of all guards, because guards rule March. That's what we do here with Tony Bracket. We're starting the OLI2 OLIs that you need to be watching. Number one from the big sky, the Grizzlies of Montana, Money Williams.
- [31:10]
Chris Cote
Great name.
- [31:11]
Tony
We want him to be great just based on his name.
- [31:13]
Stugotz
That's not a real name.
- [31:14]
Tony
His name is Money Williams, Dan. And he had a 30 burger against Tennessee earlier this season. Had 36 against Portland State to open up March. Montana lost both games. That's not the point.
- [31:24]
Stugotz
Is his name actually Money? It's got to be a nickname. Did his parents named him Money? You don't know?
- [31:29]
Tony
His mama called him Money. I'm a call him Money.
- [31:31]
Stugotz
I'm not sure his mama calls him Money, but.
- [31:32]
Tony
Okay, Mike, look that up for me.
- [31:34]
Chris Cote
I'm building out my dk.
- [31:35]
Tony
Okay, perfect. All right, second Oli. This name you may have heard, Jace Richardson from Michigan State. Lefty guard combo, a little undersized, but the son of Jason Richardson. Good, crafty guard, has a nice little shot. Really came on in the second half of the year. Tom Izzo always has the boys ready in March. Jace Richardson, a name you need to be watching.
- [31:57]
Chris Cote
This guy.
- [31:57]
Tony
No.
- [31:58]
Zaslow
He has a chance to shoot up draft boards, too, with this March Madness because he's one of the top prospects. But late in the season, he's really gotten a lot of buzz.
- [32:05]
Tony
Starting to play a lot more now in the back half of the season. Izzo gave him the reins to the to the Sparties, and they've been playing really well. All right, starting off number five.
- [32:14]
Stugotz
I don't think anyone calls them The Sparties.
- [32:16]
Tony
Sparties.
- [32:17]
Stugotz
I think.
- [32:17]
Dan LeBatard
Sporty.
- [32:18]
Stugotz
I think. I think you're doing that. And my father.
- [32:20]
Tony
The Cuban thing. Yeah, sorry. Number five. Con canople. Do you know where con canople plays?
- [32:27]
Stugotz
I like saying that name. Con Canople, brother.
- [32:30]
Chris Cote
I know ball. Jace Richardson went to Columbus. He was a Columbus guy. Jay Rich's son. He was a Columbus guy.
- [32:36]
Tony
Oh, Money Williams. Dad is named money and his. One of his sisters is named Monet.
- [32:44]
Chris Cote
There's apostrophe in there. Great contribution.
- [32:46]
Stugotz
That is good. That's excellent work. I remember one of. I remember somebody at sports Illustrated there was a wide receiver named, I think Marta Jenkins. And he was saying that the difference between Marty and Martae is the difference between a party and a partay.
- [33:05]
Chris Cote
Is there an apostrophe in there?
- [33:07]
Stugotz
Go ahead, Tony.
- [33:09]
Tony
Con canople. The other white guy at Duke, for those of you not following along in the. In the ncaa, he's a freshman five star guy who's now starting to come into lottery draft boards as a guy who could be maybe a top 10 pick. Very tough inside. Got a good shot. But another white guy, Duke. This Duke team is really good, by the way. So watch out for.
- [33:33]
Chris Cote
And as we established yesterday, the magic secret sauce of March madness white guys.
- [33:38]
Tony
Backdoor cuts.
- [33:39]
Stugotz
How many? Okay, but we already did Con canuple. Where are we?
- [33:42]
Tony
No, no, I know. I'm just kidding.
- [33:43]
Chris Cote
He's a white guy.
- [33:44]
Tony
He's giving you a paragraph.
- [33:45]
Chris Cote
He's highlighting part of the secret.
- [33:46]
Stugotz
Wait a minute. Chris isn't supporting what's happening here because I just. Chris muttered, I don't think this was on the air. I think it was just to be.
- [33:52]
Roy
Rolled his eyes.
- [33:53]
Stugotz
Well, he didn't just roll his eyes. What I heard in my ears is him saying, great, a stat on every guy.
- [33:58]
Lucy
We're getting like full box scores on olis.
- [34:00]
Chris Cote
I mean, excuse me, we got the money, monetary. That was a great contribution. That doesn't exist without this incredible top five.
- [34:07]
Tony
Number four, John Tanjay. Wisconsin Guard. Averages almost 20 points a game. Scored 25 points or more in eight games this season. Can light it up. Scored 41 against Arizona. Good little shot. Can create his own zazzle. I know you like guards that can do that.
- [34:24]
Roy
I'm big on being able to create your own junk and shot.
- [34:27]
Tony
It's super impressive.
- [34:28]
Lucy
You always have been.
- [34:29]
Tony
Yeah, number three.
- [34:30]
Roy
It's one of the things I'm known for.
- [34:32]
Tony
Can you create your own shot?
- [34:33]
Roy
Not anymore.
- [34:34]
Stugotz
I did an inner mural with those terry cloth shorts. You should have seen me Crossing people over. Old terry cloth.
- [34:41]
Tony
Number three, Chaz Lanier. Tennessee Guard transferred from North Florida, 18 points a game. SEC newcomer of the year. Taking the same path as Dalton Connect. Last year, small school. Got up to Tennessee coach Rick Barnes and them boys all of a sudden, Chaz Lanier, the next evolution of that guard that can light it up. Hopefully Tennessee can make a run. Mike can have the podcast with coach on, you know, gear, Gearhead, podcast, barn and rubber.
- [35:08]
Lucy
That's how North Florida should always be. Said North Florida.
- [35:13]
Stugotz
One of the reasons that I like Florida in this tournament so much, I think against Auburn, Alabama and Tennessee, they were five and one. Like that team. I don't know how you feel about this. I'm excited because what is. How does. How do you guys feel about this? Because Zaslow like you. Donnis Haslam.
- [35:28]
Roy
That's right.
- [35:29]
Stugotz
Identifies as a Miami guy.
- [35:31]
Roy
One of the many things we have in common, me and ud, but has.
- [35:33]
Stugotz
A certain allegiance to Florida. When Florida school there starts.
- [35:37]
Chris Cote
No, you went. I thought you went to Santa Fe.
- [35:39]
Roy
Oh, stop it. What an embarrassing theater school. I went to a university, the Universe. No offense to anyone who went to Santa Fe, but it's a community college. All right? And for someone who went to a university. And I have a degree, all right, I have a degree from the University of Florida in journalism. To say that I went to community college. I'm sorry, you're offending me.
- [36:01]
Tony
Business decision.
- [36:02]
Chris Cote
I went to community college.
- [36:04]
Roy
Okay, good for you.
- [36:05]
Chris Cote
Good for you.
- [36:06]
Roy
But I have a degree from a university.
- [36:08]
Tony
So do I.
- [36:09]
Roy
All right?
- [36:09]
Chris Cote
So do I. But you went there for your BA after you went for your AA at Santa Fe.
- [36:13]
Roy
No, I went to the University of Florida. I started at the University of. Of Central Florida and then I transferred. All right. To University of Florida.
- [36:21]
Zaslow
Why would you do that?
- [36:23]
Roy
Let's listen. We're getting into my backstory.
- [36:26]
Tony
Number two, speaking of the Florida Gators, Walter Clayton Jr. Incredible guard, can get his own shot.
- [36:33]
Stugotz
Like Zaslo mentioned, he's going to be a good pro.
- [36:35]
Tony
He's an incredible shot maker, has a great three ball, leading probably one of the best teams in the country. Walter Clayton Jr.
- [36:43]
Roy
I get very excited about the Gators when their basketball team is good.
- [36:46]
Stugotz
Well, I noticed this, and you made it about railing against community colleges.
- [36:52]
Roy
I didn't bring it up.
- [36:53]
Lucy
He did dismissed it, though.
- [36:55]
Stugotz
No, but the thing that you.
- [36:57]
Roy
I think you did it to aggravate me.
- [36:58]
Stugotz
The thing that you did is that you deflected from me saying that you're a Miami fan. Miami through and through right up until the Gators are good at something. And then all of a sudden, you're orange and blue.
- [37:11]
Roy
Well, I'm allowed to. It's my school.
- [37:13]
Chris Cote
But when it comes to football, much like you, Donnis Haslam, that is Canes. Go Canes.
- [37:18]
Roy
Yes, Canes. Because that's what's best for business. I do a podcast called Zaslo Show 2.0. No one who's listening to Zaslo Show 2.0. A very, very minute number of the millions of listeners care about the Florida Gators. A lot of them care about the Miami Hurricanes. And I do a podcast in Miami, not Gainesville. So I need the Hurricanes to do well. That's what's best.
- [37:40]
Stugotz
For again, though, you identify as a Miami person, and to me, it feels wrong to identify as a Miami person and then have this undercurrent of traitorous orange and blue.
- [37:49]
Roy
But you say I identify as if, like, I'm choosing. No, I am a Miami person. I'm not. It's not a choice. It's not something I identify with. I am a Miami.
- [37:58]
Stugotz
You publicly. You publicly present my whole life as. As. As. You are Miami first.
- [38:04]
Roy
Yeah.
- [38:05]
Stugotz
And I don't know that these two things are allowed to coexist.
- [38:08]
Roy
Why not? I'm from Miami. I've lived here my whole life, except when I went to school at the.
- [38:13]
Stugotz
University of Florida, because Miami people hate University of Florida people. That's how that one works. And so you and Udonis Haslam are the rare few that I point to, and I'm like, those are mixed allegiances.
- [38:24]
Roy
Be careful what you say about us.
- [38:27]
Chris Cote
As someone that is a Hurricane fan that didn't go to the school, too, I have the utmost respect for people that went to other schools.
- [38:33]
Roy
Yeah.
- [38:33]
Chris Cote
How about that?
- [38:34]
Roy
I'm an amazing Miami Hurricanes fan. I went to uf and I still.
- [38:37]
Chris Cote
Root for the Hurricanes. What I don't like is that you still, like, root for UF when convenient.
- [38:41]
Roy
That's my school.
- [38:42]
Chris Cote
I know plenty of people that went to FSU that are like, they don't root for FSU at all in anything in their canes, through and through.
- [38:48]
Roy
Well, when my school's good, I show out.
- [38:51]
Stugotz
Okay. But that's. That's what I'm objecting to. What I'm objecting to is how bandwagon that is.
- [38:56]
Roy
That's okay.
- [38:57]
Tony
Number one, Cam Jones from Marquette. Probably the number one bucket getter of the tournament, Koozie Award finalist, left handed. And you know when you get that left handed bucket getter, you can get some different angles, finishing at the hoop, getting different angles in the paint. He does everything for Marquette. Leads him in points, assists, second in rebounds. And a guy who can get hot at the right time and carry a team. Kind of like Kemba Walker did back in the day. Cam Jones for Marquette.
- [39:22]
Stugotz
Shaka.
- [39:22]
Tony
Smarten them boys.
- [39:24]
Roy
Sanders, NFA Community College and really make me angry, man. It's insulting. That's all I'm saying.
- [39:29]
Chris Cote
Man, I could have sworn you went there.
- [39:31]
Lucy
I'm picturing a player that gets hot at the wrong time. It's like he's at home. He's like, why'd it get hot here? That guy gets hot at the right time. It's like, oh, we're in a game right now. Perfect.
- [39:44]
Roy
Switch.
- [39:45]
Stugotz
I wanted to ask you guys, I do not watch and have never watched any reality television. I'm going to have a hard time saying to you guys, in my entire history or in the history of reality television, I'll be someone who has trouble naming. Like, you never watch the Real World reality shows? No, I never got into any of that stuff. However, I am interested in something that I feel like the grand majority of people are not interested in, at least in part because they find the subject unlikable. The Alec Baldwin reality show on Max, where they're showing you the innards of his life when his wife presents as Hispanic but isn't Hispanic. They have seven kids and six animals and he's ocd. So about cleanliness and stuff. That's a bit of a nightmare to have seven kids, six animals, and be OCD about cleanliness. But they're also in his life as all of this stuff happens around him where he's killed somebody and is headed to trial because on the set a gun went off and he was holding the gun. I have found I'm only a couple of episodes in and I found it interesting. But I think that a lot of people really don't like Alec Baldwin for reasons ranging from arrogance to politics to behavior with the paparazzi and stuff, doesn't seem to like being famous at this point. But to me, being in that man's life at that time, like really in his life, is interesting viewing. Where are you guys on this? Because I don't think many people are watching it. And when I've brought it up before, no one's interested in talking about it and I'm not sure why.
- [41:39]
Roy
Well, I have zero sympathy for the guy that that doesn't enjoy being particularly famous when he's doing this reality show right now, like, you're gonna have to miss me on the. I don't like all the fame that's surrounding me. But as someone who doesn't do reality tv, why is this the one that you're picking?
- [41:57]
Stugotz
I'm interested in Alec Baldwin. I've been interested in Alec Baldwin. I'll tell you why. I read a long profile on him many years ago when I thought of him as a very accomplished actor and a bit of a movie star. And he was saying in the article, with uncommon vulnerability and self awareness, I failed as a movie star.
- [42:17]
Roy
Yeah. Cause he's not a leading man. Right.
- [42:20]
Stugotz
Hank Azaria would say that after Birdcage, what famous people get who have a hit movie or show like Jeremy Piven or whatever is, you get three chances. They'll give you three movies. And Hank Azaria chose Mystery, Alaska and Godzilla and something else, and then never got to be like the star principal again. Jeremy Piven got this after Entourage, where he got a couple of chances and then didn't get more chances after that. Alec Baldwin was talking about himself as a failure, and the awareness of it made him someone I'm interested in. I bought his biography and his wild arrogance is also something I'm interested in. But the rest of you just find him not likable. This Aaron Rodgers is running into this. These reports yesterday about Aaron Rodgers is having all sorts of trouble getting any media jobs as a possibility as a fallback to retiring, because the executives being quoted are calling him insufferable. Like there's a likability factor that you kind of need if you want people. This is what Scott Van Pelt has where you're talking about. I enjoy spending time with this person. They have a personality that is likable.
- [43:33]
Tony
So you say she's not Hispanic, but pretends to be Hispanic.
- [43:36]
Stugotz
Yeah, she's got an accent and everything. She speaks Spanish, but Hispanic face.
- [43:39]
Tony
Like, I don't get it.
- [43:40]
Stugotz
She's not here. She's not Hispanic.
- [43:42]
Tony
I don't like that. I don't like that.
- [43:45]
Stugotz
I mean, it's not something you see every day. It's not. It's not very common to have someone speaking in a Spanish accent when they're not Hispanic. Like.
- [43:55]
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Yep.
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