Hour 1: The Brobdingnagian Pregame Show (feat. Jonathan Zaslow)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 1: The Brobdingnagian Pregame Show (feat. Jonathan Zaslow)
Date: January 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their crew (with guest Jonathan Zaslow) gear up for what they call the “biggest game in 20 years”—the Miami Hurricanes’ historic college football matchup. The Hour 1 show leans into comedic excess, parodying sports pregame show tropes while blending major breaking sports news (the Dolphins firing Mike McDaniel), a lively debate on coaching economics, and irreverent pop-culture tangents.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Parody of Pregame Show Excess ("Big Fake Pregame Show")

• The crew satirizes the melodrama and overstatement of televised sports pregame shows, repeatedly emphasizing the game’s “bigness”—using playful and even nonsensical language.

  • The invented term “Brobdingnagian” (meaning gigantic) becomes a running bit.
  • [00:02] Dan (sing-song): “It’s the big fake pregame show. Fake pregame show. It’s big. The biggest game in 20 years.”

• They play competing "show opens" produced by Roy and Jeremy, seeking Zaslow’s expert opinion on which one is “bigger.”

  • [01:43] Stugotz, listing Zaslow’s credentials: “Zaslow, you’ve been a radio producer for a long time… I need them both to be bigger.”

Notable Quote

“I keep exhorting these people, please make it bigger. So Roy made a new open and Jeremy made a new open, and I need them both to be bigger.”
— Dan Le Batard [01:43]

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2. Breaking News: Dolphins Fire Mike McDaniel

• News breaks live: The Miami Dolphins have let go of head coach Mike McDaniel.
• Stugotz and company react instantly, diagnosing the desperation and timing as a move to clear the decks for a “star coach” chase (immediately linking to Jim/John Harbaugh rumors).
  • [05:01] “As we also have breaking news. Dolphins have hired [fired] Mike McDaniel.” — Dan
  • [05:08] Zaslow quickly pivots: “So, I mean, we’re gonna have a big celebration… but like he’s actually fired now, so. Alright, it’s a party, I guess, right?”

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3. Harbaugh Sweepstakes: The Price of Desperation

• The crew launches into a layered conversation about NFL coaching economics, owner desperation, and Miami’s chances in a hypothetical sweepstakes for John Harbaugh.
• Key points:
  • The only advantage the Dolphins may have is owner Stephen Ross’s willingness to wildly overpay and cede total power to Harbaugh.
  • Wild salary speculation ensues—Zaslow floats $50 million/year for Harbaugh. Roy calls it fan fantasy; Stugotz says “what else can Miami offer?”
  • Historical context: The Browns’ guaranteed contract to Deshaun Watson is offered as precedent for outrageous moves to lure top talent.
• Discussion explores how billionaire owners actually spend (or don’t), with Roy mocking the idea that “money is no object” for even the super-rich.

Notable Quotes

“You can have all the power, you can do everything, and you can pick your next quarterback… wildly overpay him. But also tell him… you can have all of the power.”
— Dan Le Batard [06:33]

“If you just pay the coach an exorbitant amount of money with no salary cap, go offer John Harbaugh $50 million a season. I dare him to say no to that.”
— Jonathan Zaslow [07:25]

“They don’t spend $50 million… That’s why he can afford it.”
— Roy [20:06]

• They compare and contrast spending on coaches vs. players, and Steven Ross's potential end-of-life, “legacy move” motivation:
  • “This owner in South Florida cares deeply about not being a clown... This guy’s only advantage… is to have more money than the next guy.” — Stugotz [18:15]

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4. Media & Insider Dynamics

• Dan presses Zaslow to “report” the story as breaking news and own the Harbaugh-to-Dolphins angle, teasing the gamesmanship of being first.

  • [27:03] Stugotz: "Put my name on the crawl, I’m telling you."
  • Zaslow, tongue-in-cheek: “I gotta make a couple calls. I’m a real journalist here. I don’t just throw things out all willy nilly…” [27:14]

• The group good-naturedly mocks ESPN/Meadowlark rivalries and Zaslow’s live location in Atlanta for the Peach Bowl—while all the action is supposedly in Miami.

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5. Hotel & Travel Silliness

• The crew riffs on hotel aliases, room privacy, and the dangers of “outing” on-air broadcasters’ locations.

  • [28:14] Stugotz: “Why would he do that? He shouldn’t do that.”
  • Zaslow: "I stay under an alias. Don’t worry about that."

• Zaslow recounts a horrific first-class airplane experience—his nearby passenger a “slob” with bare, talon-like feet on the bulkhead. The group jokes about body shaming, class, and what constitutes “belonging” in first class.

  • [34:01] Zaslow: “I don’t understand people, man… They’re always slobs, right? It’s never like a good look.”
  • [36:35] Stugotz: “You’re being a classist and a body shamer.”

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6. Pop Culture Debates: Rewatching TV Shows

• Zaslow is binging The Sopranos on his travels. Roy defends “Family Ties” and other classic sitcoms as just as worthy of rewatching, sparking a friendly generational TV debate.

  • [31:22] Zaslow: “I’m actually in the middle of a binge rewatch of The Sopranos.”
  • [37:59] Stugotz: “To say that it airs as a rewatch in comparison to the Sopranos is as bad a take as you’ve ever had.”

• Roy & Dan discuss the evolution of television anti-heroes and U.S. film history—tracing modern storytelling from the Hays Commission rules to The Sopranos.

  • [40:24] Roy: “This is an American invention: good guy has to win… it’s why all that stuff happens now… The moment someone did [an anti-hero], it was like, this is so revolutionary.”

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7. Running Gags & Musical Bits

• The recurring mention of “there goes another rubber tree plant”—a Sinatra reference—takes on a surreal life as a punchline for arbitrary bigness.
  • [32:01] Jeremy: “Oops. There goes another rubber tree plant. Came from the 1959 winner for best original song… High Hopes by Frank Sinatra…”

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Dan demandingly vaudevillian:
  “Please make it bigger. Bob Dignagian. I need it to be bigger than all big because it’s bigger than Bob Drignanian.” [01:43]

• On NFL coaching market tactics:
  “Great coach and most coveted coach at the most desperate time with the most desperate suitors. Those things are the same thing.”
  — Stugotz [12:18]

• On billionaire logic:
  “They don’t spend like that… That’s why he can afford it.”
  — Roy [20:06]

• Pop-culture meta moment:
  Jeremy: “I want to hear the podcast of that guy… talking about Zaslow as like this disgusting guy with a soda drinker’s body and a big ass head watching Sopranos.” [37:13]

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:02 — Satirical “Fake Pregame Show” open: the “biggest game in 20 years”
• 04:41 — Absurd rubber tree plant bits, Sinatra song reference
• 05:01 — Breaking news: Dolphins fire Mike McDaniel
• 06:33 — Dan outlines the Harbaugh “all the power and money” pitch
• 07:25 — Zaslow floats $50 million for a coach
• 18:15 — Stugotz on owner desperation and legacy
• 27:03 — Stugotz goads Zaslow to “report” the Harbaugh story
• 34:01 — Zaslow shares his infamous first-class airplane “slob” story
• 37:59 — Family Ties vs. The Sopranos as “rewatchable” TV
• 40:24 — Roy explains the Hays Commission and anti-heroes in media

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Tone and Style

This episode is energetic, irreverent, and self-referential—blending genuine sports analysis with parody, in-jokes, and cultural digressions. The hosts and guests riff with each other, oscillating between thoughtful sports talk and playful bits, always with a wink toward the absurdity of sports media.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This hour is quintessential Le Batard: a parody of sports media’s excess, grappling with real sports news and big-picture NFL economics, punctuated by pop-culture gags and sidetrack storytelling. The focus on both the absurd (giant fake pregame openers, Sinatra song misquotes) and the urgent (coaching changes, NFL market realities) means you get laughs and insight—and maybe more context about why Miami sports fans are currently losing their minds.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the big fake pregame show. Fake pre game show. It's big. The biggest game in 20 years. It's the big fake pregame show. Fake pregame show. It's big.

[Stugotz]

Hello.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the big fake pregame show.

[Stugotz]

How does it rub you? Just having fun, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan loves when it's big.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan wants it big.

[Stugotz]

Head to head. Mass kicks ass.

[Chris Cody]

Bigger.

[Roy]

Yeah, Bigger. Bigger.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's Brobding Negan. Biggest game in 20 years. Miami Hurricanes, Malaki own this tackles. And we're here to tell you it's big.

[Jeremy]

Oh.

[Dan Le Batard]

It'S Brobding Negian. There goes another rubber tree plant.

[Stugotz]

That means big. There goes another rubber tree plant. Like you're just using random sounds from. From Cody. What is. What is. There goes another rubber tree plant. Have to do anything. Wait a minute. All right, hold on a second. You guys don't know how to do big. Hold on. Listen, listen. I. You guys don't understand what I'm asking you to do. Zaslow, you've been a radio producer for a long time. Before you were a majestic college football insider, journalist, rising star. Race.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Race war expert.

[Stugotz]

Race war expert and everything else. I want you to tell me which open is bigger. Because we've got the biggest game in 20 years going on tonight. And I keep exhorting these people, please make it bigger. So Roy made a new open and Jeremy made a new open, and I need them both to be bigger. So play for Zaslow. Please stop Jeremy's for a second because you guys, Bob Dignagin. I need it to be bigger than all big because it's bigger than Bob Drignanian. And I need Roy's first for Zaslow, please.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fake break Home shop. Fake breaking himself.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Let's go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fake breaking him.

[Stugotz]

Shop.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fake breaking himself. Biggest game in 20 years.

[Stugotz]

Mask kicks ass. How does it rub you? We put belt to ass. It rubs me beyond the wrong way.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fake breakout show. Do you think that your family would get a lot of joy from Malaki?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So did we.

[Stugotz]

Head to head? It's good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hello?

[Stugotz]

Just having fun, man.

[Jeremy]

Punk.

[Roy]

And boom goes the dynamite.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fake Break hill show.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. I'm not letting that story mess with my glory.

[Roy]

Talking about how long, damn it, how long?

[Stugotz]

History is gone.

[Roy]

We are right here, right now. And every team they thought was gonna beat us is taking their ass.

[Stugotz]

Sorry.

[Roy]

And we gonna keep doing it until we land back home in our stadiums for the national championship belt to hand.

[Stugotz]

It's gonna be hard to beat that. I asked Jeremy to beat that. And Rob Dignagian is what he did. But let's see if Jeremy in Z professional radio producer ear opinion thinks this one is bigger.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the big fake pregame show. Fake pre game show. It's big. Biggest game in 20 years. It's the big fake pregame show. Fake pre game show. It's big. Hello. It's the big fake pregame show.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

How does it rub you just having fun, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

Damn loves when it's big.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan wants it big.

[Stugotz]

Head to head. Mass kicks ass.

[Jeremy]

Bigger.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, bigger.

[Roy]

Bigger.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's prompting Negan biggest game in 20 years. Miami Hurricanes. Mila this tackles and we're here to tell you it's big.

[Stugotz]

Oh.

[Dan Le Batard]

It'S Brob D. There goes another rubber tree plant.

[Jeremy]

That.

[Stugotz]

Doesn't make any sense. He's singing his song is there. What is the rest of that song? Give me. Give me the rest of the lyrics, please. Of there goes another rubber tree plant. Because I just need to get to the bottom of why that's at the end of that. As we also have breaking news. Dolphins have hired Mike McDaniel.

[Roy]

What?

[Stugotz]

Oh, my God.

[Jeremy]

I can't handle this today.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So, I mean, we're gonna have a big celebration here on the 50th day that I could fire Mike McDaniel, but like he's actually fired now, so. All right, it's a party, I guess, right?

[Stugotz]

I mean, it doesn't really suggest that they know what they're doing when they do it this piecemeal. Just sort of without explaining to anybody. Hey, we just needed McDaniel to sort on at the end so that we can just get everybody out of here at the same time. We needed him to just be a face and voice for. Well, there's somebody still in the building speaking on behalf of the team and no one told him.

[Roy]

Well, Guy, can I. Can I offer perhaps? Maybe you're like, oh, I like Mike McDaniel. But then you see there's a Harbaugh available.

[Jeremy]

That's where my mind goes.

[Roy]

Hold on for a second. Why am I married to this guy? Well, look who's on the market.

[Stugotz]

Okay, so this is what we're going to do immediately. I suppose this is what you have to do if you're one of seven teams in the market for Jim Harbaugh. He brings instant stability, credibility, and all these things where it's rare for a coach to get fired. And everyone, I mean, think about how cutthroat that business is, especially in football. Andy Reid was a fool not that long ago. Like he. He has Reinvented himself since. But there aren't many of the guys other than Tomlin and Harbaugh where you're like, really? You're going to be 18 years in one place. Like, how the hell does that happen? Everybody gets fired and then everyone's shocked when he is let go. Like, that's just because you're like, oh, we still expected you to be good. You still have the quarterback. And now that he's available, all the bad teams think he' the fix. And so if you want to be one of the bad teams who can get him, he's the most coveted thing there's been in free agent coaching, and I don't know how long. Right. Because you're going to have seven people who want, can you please come fix this? We've just got a shit show with the jets and with the. With the Giants. Which of these jobs would you like here? And Miami's doesn't have a quarterback. So if Steven Ross is going to get in the game, the only way he can do it is, hey, at my place, you can also pick the GM or be the gm. You can have all the power. The Harbaugh, the thing that you're giving him, what this firing shows you, I think Zazzle. You tell me if you have another instant reaction to this. But the timing of all this suggests to me that the only way you can get Harbaugh here is to do what you were saying yesterday, which is wildly overpay him. But also tell him you can have all of the power, you can do everything, and you can pick your next quarterback and you can show us if the Harbaughs can do it with anybody.

[Roy]

Yep.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, maybe Stephen Ross was listening, although Troy Aikman should have told him this by now. If you just pay the coach an exorbitant amount of money with no salary cap, go offer John Harbaugh $50 million a season. I dare him to say no to that. But, yeah. My first thought is that on top of what you just said, which is. And you could also get X amount of control, maybe in the front office, you'll be the. You'll have saying who we're going to hire as the gm, but. But it's you and him. Like, you're going to have say in personnel. That's the only way you could wind up getting him. I just. It's funny where. I mean, how sloppily was this handled by the Dolphins?

[Stugotz]

Rope?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It was just a few days ago that Mike McDaniel stood in front of everybody. And said he's going to be part.

[Stugotz]

Of the general manager search. Well, but that. No, but something changed. Look, sports is cutthroat. It's a business. And things change very quickly. And what changes? That Harbaugh became available. And that part seems obvious now. If they want to get in the game, they got to do it quickly. This is all going to happen pretty fast. It's rare that you've got seven suitors for the same guy. I don't know. Look, step back from this for a second. Somebody give me all the examples, not just football, of the coaching free agent where everyone is like, whoa, how'd he get fired? We all know he's good. And now you've got a ton of teams who would like just the credibility of that. Bill Belichick, a good example, and nobody wanted it. Harbaugh, though, does have coveted free agent. We're power hungry. We know this guy is good. It's. I dare say Baltimore did John Harbaugh a favor by making him somebody at this point in his career who's allowed to reinvent himself with all the power. And while Zaslo is saying a ridiculous thing there, at $50 million a year, you're not going to five times or. Or even three times, whatever the salary structure is or whatever. What do you. What are you saying? I mean, that you're looking at me saying that they are going to do that?

[Roy]

No, I'm thinking zazzle, save $50 million a year.

[Stugotz]

No, but what's that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But it's because money isn't an object to this guy. Like, why wouldn't you.

[Stugotz]

What?

[Roy]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

I mean. No. What. All right, you're saying it's absurd, and I'm saying the number is also absurd. But let's deconstruct this for a second. Harbaugh has just become available at a time of panic and leadership. Listness in Miami. Stephen Ross, at the end of his life, considering mortality and having one, but being a laughingstock for 25 years in this town as the worst owner there could possibly be in South Florida. But also, he does good business. Hey, thanks for F1. Thanks for running that stadium. It's a major league place you've built there, but you are a laughingstock in the one place that you want to be. Excellent. Everyone thinks you're a clown. You are terrible at this. You can't do it within the salary structures. You can't do it even within the rules if you believe some of what it is that's being said because you're so desperate to win at the end, and Zas is saying, money is no object. You are allowed to pay this person anything you want. We were talking earlier this week and saying, imagine what Stephen Ross would pay in an open market. No salary cap for a quarterback. He would pay a billion dollars for a quarterback at the end of his life and go into partnership and give him part ownership of the team because he would so badly want to win at the end of his life. As everyone says, he's a careless clown. A careless clown. And so the numbers, ridiculous. But why couldn't Stephen Ross blow up the coaching salary ranks? Because the only advantage he could possibly have is to have more money than the other guy.

[Jeremy]

That Mike McDaniel magic crate topic was a little ahead of its time.

[Roy]

No man slapped right now. I owe an apology to Juju.

[Jeremy]

Apparently, it's going to hurt when he's the Lions offensive coordinator next year. That's the game we're playing.

[Roy]

He's going to be an amazing offensive coordinator.

[Jeremy]

I agree. It's either Detroit or I could see San Francisco back with Shanahan.

[Roy]

Detroit feels like the spot circles around everybody. But no, the only example we have in professional sports in the world of owners being allowed to pay whatever it takes and them actually paying whatever it takes is Saudi Arabia. There is no other place. So you guys go, oh, look, Steve Ballmer is one of the ten richest people in the world. Ty Lu doesn't make $50 million. Right. Like, so this idea that, like, oh, because there's no salary cap on front office or coaching.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Roy]

But going to invest an amount of money. That is absurd. That guys, there's still. Still America got. These billionaires don't like paying money. They like getting stuff cheap and for free and on the margins. Now, the highest paid coach in the NFL right now is Andy Reid at 20 mil a year. If you told me, hey, we're gonna get Harbaugh, we're Gonna give him GM and head coach. I could see a salary going 25, maybe even 27 million. Double that. Double that. No way, man. Not a chance in hell. He's not that. First of all, he's not that kind of coach. He's a great coach. He's not. Oh, my God.

[Stugotz]

Well, he's coveted free agent at the right time, which makes him might as well be.

[Roy]

Everybody is approaching that figure like that.

[Stugotz]

These are synonyms. What you just said are synonyms. Great coach and most coveted coach at the most desperate time with the most desperate suitors. Those things are the same thing. There's no difference.

[Roy]

There okay, but what I'm saying to you is that that does not evaporate the rules of economics.

[Guest Announcer]

Hey, Jeremy. Happy holidays.

[Jeremy]

Happy Januka.

[Guest Announcer]

I want to toast you. Actually, I don't. I will toast with you.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Guest Announcer]

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[Jeremy]

You could say.

[Guest Announcer]

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[Jeremy]

That's true.

[Guest Announcer]

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[Jeremy]

It's really amazing every time we say that. I can't believe it.

[Guest Announcer]

Well, it's crazy because, like, they've basically been partners with a Dan LeBatard show for half of their existence.

[Roy]

Wow.

[Guest Announcer]

When I put it to you that way, we got an old ass show.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, we do.

[Jeremy]

That's crazy.

[Guest Announcer]

Hey, let's look around at our friends, not each other. And our family, even though they're not here. I do miss your brother, though.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I know.

[Guest Announcer]

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[Jeremy]

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[Stugotz]

Smirnoff. Wow.

[Chris Cody]

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[Roy]

Don Leardard.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I've never stepped foot on that campus.

[Stugotz]

I.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

If you told me right now your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just, just, just take a picture.

[Stugotz]

Stugats I would die.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Stugotz]

Zaz is the one arguing this. I mean, if you want this guy. If Zaz, from the voice of the fan. Zaz is simply saying, if you want this guy, go get him.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Give him all the money.

[Stugotz]

Give him all the money and give him all the power.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's exactly my point. I mean, like, nothing you're saying is incorrect. It would be absurd economically to give John Harbaugh, and I'm just making up a number, $50 million. You know, it's. It's an offer he can't refuse. But if you're the owner and there's no salary cap and money is not an object, it's. It's literally nothing to him, the money, why not just go do what you want?

[Roy]

That's my point. And we behave, we operate as if money is nothing to these people. It is something to them. It is. They don't spend like that. They might spend, hey, you spent how much on a, On a, on a hammer, on a toilet, on whatever. They don't spend $50 million.

[Stugotz]

So let me, Let me frame it for you this way. Just. Can you give me, Jeremy, the amount of money, please, that Stephen Ross has given away? The amount of money that Steven Ro has given to Michigan? I'm not telling him to spend this money this way. I'm simply framing it for you in an end of life, mortality, legacy way.

[Roy]

Dan? Yup.

[Stugotz]

Please let me finish. Just let me, please. This owner in South Florida cares deeply about not being a clown. Laughingstock has been so desperate just trying to get Tom Brady, just disaster after disaster. 25 years of incompetence, offensive line coach snorting blow off the desk like just irrelevant team after irrelevant team. This guy's only advantage in sports in the modern age can be to have more money than the next guy. Compound that with at the end of his career and life doing this with something it is that he cares about at this moment, right now, the Dolphins look like they do not have a plan, do not have an idea, do not have a leader, do not have a voice, do not know how to do anything going forward. What would you pay to replace that with an amount of money? Because you do it with this amount of money given to this man. What's the amount that you'd will think he'd be willing to go in that context as a billionaire? Just please cure my problems tomorrow. I'll wire the money here.

[Roy]

Now, I just don't I think it's gonna be commensurate with whatever the current market value for highest approach, because that's how these people operate, man. Like, this is again, this is a Saudi Arabia where the guy's like 200 billion a year to go. Like, they don't do that.

[Stugotz]

How much money is he giving away?

[Jeremy]

Jeremy, just in 2013, he gave 200 million DOL to the University of Michigan, $100 million to athletics, $100 million to the Steven Ross School of Business. He gave another $50 million in 2017.

[Roy]

Did he pay that to an individual?

[Jeremy]

No, it's the University of Michigan.

[Roy]

Okay, Was that someone's salary? Was that Michigan's like.

[Jeremy]

No, but that is probably.

[Roy]

It was a philanthropic donation. Yes.

[Jeremy]

It's how he donated to Michigan. $100 million went to the athletics program. And I will say soon thereafter, they hired Jim Harbaugh to be their head coach.

[Roy]

Okay, My point is this. That doesn't mean shit when it comes to paying employees. You guys are living in a fantasy land of the fan where it's like, he's rich. He can afford it. Yeah, he can afford it. He doesn't spend money like that. That's why he can afford it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, what if this time that ridiculous amount of money that he would give this individual would stop him from losing?

[Jeremy]

Would stop him from losing a laughing stock.

[Roy]

20 million is the highest paid coach in the NFL right now. Andy Reid, who we considered to be excellent in this job, if you told me, hey, first of all, I think the power is a bigger play for Harbaugh than the as Bill Partels, once.

[Stugotz]

You can have all of it, it's the only thing the Dolphins offer.

[Roy]

But that's the real thing they offer. That's the real, hey, you get to buy the groceries and then cook it. In the words of Bill Parcells, then you start from there. You say, okay, well, I'm doing two jobs. I'm horrible. I'm like, I'm doing two jobs. You can't pay me enough for just the one job. Cool. 25, 27. $30 million a year. You say $50 million a year. That makes zero sense. First of all, you got to staff everybody else, right? Because if you made him 50, what's his associate head coach worth? What are his coordinators worth? What is his assistant general manager worth? You have to be able to staff, right? Number one. Number two, you don't think NFL owners talk to each other about, like, yo, don't set a precedent where we're paying guys.

[Stugotz]

You Tell me that the Raiders paid Chip Kelly $6 million a year. That's where the advantages are. If you're a rich person, you can out buy a coach, and these guys.

[Roy]

Are getting unreasonable salaries marginally, you don't go. You don't go quadruple what the highest paid guy is.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But what. But if Steven Ross says, I don't care, I just want to win. I'm old. I can't take my money with me when I die. Why does Steven Ross care?

[Roy]

First of all, I believe he has, like, heirs. So it's not like just his money. He dies and now it's all gone. Number one. Number two, again, you're speaking like a fan's ass. Like, you're like, if I had that money's money, I'd. He not going to do it, man. I don't. What do you want at this point? Like, the only way we can settle this is, let's see how much Harbaugh gets paid. If he gets paid anything more than $30 million. All right, I will. I will concede.

[Stugotz]

All right, no, so let's. Let's not get caught up in the absurdity of what the number has to.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Be, because it is absurd.

[Stugotz]

The point. Yes, of course the point remains on. What Zaslow is saying is, as we speak right now, what we did not think would be so 10 minutes ago is when Jim Harbaugh became available, all of a sudden. I'm sorry, John Har. When John. I'm going to make that mistake a lot. When John Harbaugh became available. 18 seasons. I gave this stat yesterday. 12 playoff seasons in 18 years with some different quarterbacks. 12 playoff seasons in 18 years is more than Arizona has in 106 years. Okay, so he's a coveted free agent. The only way to get him, the only way is for the Dolphins to have a more appetizing job than the other seven teams. When you got Jackson Dart, when you've got young quarterbacks, there were greater, easier paths to success. The only thing the Dolphins offer that no one else can offer it. Hey, blank slate. All the power, all the money, you go get them. Harbaugh, this is Ravens. Did you a favor. You are the highest paid coach in the game because you're available. And, sorry, Andy Reid, you're paid less than that.

[Jeremy]

Now, why are the Dolphins the only team that can offer that?

[Stugotz]

All of those things, all of the things of no quarterback. You can pick your own gm. You can be the gm, and we will give you the most money. That's not everyone else.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's their only advantage.

[Stugotz]

Not everyone else is in the same desperate position of Steven Ross at the end of his life.

[Roy]

Let me ask you guys a question. A couple years ago, the Broncos were sold to the Walton family. They're hundreds of billions of dollars, right? They had an opening, and Sean Payton was a guy who had a name and everything. And they went aggressive for Sean Payton. Right. They gave him control. They paid him. They didn't pay him $50 million. They didn't even make him the highest paid coach. They paid him a lot. He's one of the top five highest paid coaches. But again, there is a realm of reason, especially when it comes to to coaching and front office. You guys might idolize this. I'm gonna tell you right now, billionaires, they still look at it. It's like, well, that guy doing all the winning, pointing at the quarterback or pointing at the star player, they're like, you're just a guy. Yeah. If you're not the right guy, just get someone else in here. There's no part of them that looks at it as like, no, this is my man and I have to go down with the ship with him again. Ty Lue is widely recognized as one of the the best coaches, best X's and O's guys, best ATO guys, best communicators. Former player, won a championship as a player, won a championship as a head coach. Steve Ballmer is worth more than the next 15 NBA owners together. Fifteen. Right. And when it came time, the Tyler was like, all right, let me get paid. C. Ballmer's like, let's see what the market says. He actually had to go out and like, shop around because his like, really? So then it's like, oh, should I go to the Suns? Whatever? And then they paid him. And even then they paid him, but not like, exorbitant amount.

[Stugotz]

Harbaugh is already making 17 million a year as the. Where are you on all this?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, I think the one example that I would give is because there's no reason for Harbaugh to want the Dolphins job. So obviously you're trying to make an offer he can't refuse. And the one example I would give, like, Deshaun Watson didn't want to play for the Cleveland Browns. And back then, giving $250 million guaranteed, by the way, with a salary cap. But given $250 million, guarant was unheard of. But it's what they had to do to convince him to play quarterback for them. That's the example I'd give.

[Roy]

Yeah, but the example you gave is a player, and owners will pay players because there's an element of. That's an irreplaceable talent right there. They look at coaches and front office people as, all right, so I'll get another guy.

[Stugotz]

Zaslow, I'm telling you right now, if you got out in front of the report, Harbaught of the Dolphins, like, everything that just happened here, sniffs of that, like, everything McDaniel was not wronged here at the end. He was a.500 coach. And the way that we turned on him and the quarterback is ugly. Including that there's a CTE issue in the middle of that. And it tramples. Ends up trampling both of them. Like, it's the asinine nature of what it is that undercut this Dolphin season, head injury included, makes it so that everybody is dumped and they start all over. And I think it'd be a pretty easy report to say, given the histories at Michigan, given the histories between the families, the Harbaughs, that what just happened today is because. Because whatever's already needed to be in place is being put in place because the Dolphins are going to go so hard at this that they're not actually not going to get him. Like, they're going to get him. Like, if I'm guessing that Zaslo could report that now and be right in, you know, in a couple of days, as soon as they start feeding it to the insiders what the money's actually going to be.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Look, I'm. I'm here in Atlanta with ESPN today. I'm on at 3 o'. Clock. I'm doing afternoon Drive with Amber Wilson. You better believe that I am leading with this, that I'm gonna be right in front of this thing here. Put my name right. Put my name on the crawl, I'm telling you.

[Stugotz]

Well, then do it now. What. What are you doing? We can't have it. Then just go ahead and report it now. Do you have.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, yeah. No.

[Stugotz]

Do you have it? What do you mean, oh, yeah? I don't know if you have it yet. Have you done any reporting on this?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I gotta make a couple calls. All right, I'm. I'm a real journalist here. I don't just throw things out all willy nilly. I mean, heck, a couple days ago, someone tipped you off about Trey Young and the Washington Wizards. I don't necessarily have to say their name. You guys know who it is?

[Stugotz]

Is.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But I gotta do. I gotta make a couple calls here. This news broke after I was already on with You. But I'm telling you right now, this passes the smell test. The Dolphins, they're going after Harbaugh and I think they're going to offer him an incredible amount of money. Now, that's just my opinion, but I'm going to make a couple calls here. We'll see.

[Roy]

He's got to do some work. He's got his reading light behind him over there by the bed. It's on because he's got to go.

[Stugotz]

And do some reading. That report needs to be for Metal Arc Media. That report cannot be for ESPN radio at 3 o'. Clock. You work now at Meadowlark Media. You're going to the Peach Bowl. You're at the Peach bowl right now.

[Roy]

You can't be.

[Stugotz]

You're at the wrong game. You're at the. You're at the incorrect game. Tell us about the sad hotel. Tell us about the sad vibe there. A Peach Bowl. The Peach bowl is gross.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay?

[Roy]

The.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The hotel is not sad. This is actually my favorite hotel that we stay in every time we come to Atlanta. This is the best hotel. We're at the Hyatt Regency. This hotel is.

[Roy]

Just put it out there.

[Stugotz]

Why would he do that? He shouldn't do that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

People shouldn't do that.

[Stugotz]

Who cares? People are going to.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Whatever. I'm a man of the people. You want to come say hi to your room number?

[Roy]

Call the front desk. Everybody, Hyatt Regency in Atlanta. Hey, can I talk to Jonathan Zas?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I stay under an alias. I don't have to worry about that. You can't just call my room. Don't worry about that.

[Stugotz]

Jack.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Can I tell you something, though?

[Stugotz]

In a very tight window there. Jack Spade. Are you aware. We'll get to that in a second. Are you aware that Roy that.

[Roy]

Plume.

[Stugotz]

Are you aware that Roy checks in the hotel?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He checks in as King Spade.

[Stugotz]

No, as better.

[Jeremy]

Even better. Jack Spade.

[Stugotz]

Jack Spade. I'm gonna get you, sucker.

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[Roy]

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[Roy]

Don Le.

[Stugotz]

How you love that cat. Bad news for opposing teams in the triple air stall. Smiles till the Bloods are clutch again. Clutch again. Clutch again.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is the Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Roy]

Roy, you're making a reference that a philistine like. Like Zaz would never get. He hasn't even seen Dodgeball. You think he's seen. I'm gonna get you, sucker.

[Stugotz]

Absolutely.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm looking at too much.

[Roy]

I'm looking at a sucker right now. I'm looking at a sucker right now on my screen.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Man. You're lucky I'm here at the high studio.

[Roy]

What do you do on flights? I asked Dan this right before we came on. What do you do on the plane? You're. It's a two hour flight to Atlanta.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Right from my hour 10. Much shorter.

[Roy]

What are you doing? What are you doing in an hour 10?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I was watching TV on my iPad.

[Roy]

What? And what were you watching? You watching children?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm actually in the middle. I'm in the middle of a binge rewatch of the Sopranos.

[Roy]

Could have been watching Dodgeball. It's a good watch. Something else. It is, but don't laugh.

[Stugotz]

It's the best of the rewatch. No, it's not. Actually, I'm thinking of going to there a third time.

[Roy]

The best, sir. Been rewatching Family Ties. We didn't give that show enough credit.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Wow. Michael P. Keaton.

[Roy]

Michael P. Keaton. Alex P. Keaton. Michael J.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Fox. Yes. Like I said, sucker.

[Stugotz]

Okay. That's a terrible reference. Compared. Really? The Sopranos?

[Roy]

Family Ties? You're not respecting Family Ties. Respect yourself, Dan Lebatar.

[Stugotz]

Oops.

[Roy]

Shaaa. Respect yourself.

[Jeremy]

Oops. There goes another rubber tree plant. Came from the 1959 winner for best original song at the Oscars, it's High Hopes by Frank Sinatra, which he later re recorded to be the actual official campaign song of the John F. Kennedy campaign for president in 1960.

[Stugotz]

Can you give me the lyrics, though? I didn't want any of the information about the history of the song I wanted, which was the bigger pregame show. Zaz, you never gave us, what, your actual thoughts.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, yeah, because there was breaking News of Mike McDaniel. I. The first one comes off as celebratory. My phone's ringing in the hotel room. Somebody's calling me. Oh, someone already got your. Somebody just called the air.

[Stugotz]

He's a moron. Sure, go answer it. Go talk to a fan.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Guarantee it's a listener.

[Roy]

Where you might. With you. Bring your mic with you. Like, he's wireless.

[Stugotz]

Does he still think he's anonymous?

[Roy]

Speak loudly. It is wireless.

[Stugotz]

He's not going to be able to bring the phone.

[Roy]

It's wireless.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, yeah, I brought the phone with me. They hung up before I got there, so it's right next to me in case.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

Okay. But now, of course, somebody's going to hunt you down here now.

[Roy]

They all are, because they saw it works.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. And so I guess. Yeah. Calls with Zazzle.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Look, how'd they figure out my alias, Zazlo?

[Stugotz]

I'd be totally fine going live streaming right up now to the biggest game in the history of games tonight. Because we should be live streaming with calls and callers. Go callers on Zazlow's phone, finding him at the Hyatt Regency. Why are you at the Peach Bowl, Zazzle? You're at the wrong game, doing the wrong. You're doing the wrong thing.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, look, we set our schedule for college football campus tour before the season starts, and we were always coming to the Peach bowl and then the national championship, and once the tournament bracket came out, it's like, shit, the Hurricanes are on the other side of the bracket racket. So, yeah, like, I don't really have control of it, but I love Atlanta. I like coming to Atlanta, so it's okay. I'm gonna be watching tonight. I'll be watching the bar getting loose.

[Roy]

How you like that airport?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's fine. Can I tell you, I had such a disgusting experience flying over here. Can I tell you guys?

[Roy]

Yes, please.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So, like, you know how you go on Twitter, you go on social media, they're always like these stories. You see people post videos or pictures on the airplane with, like, people who take their shoes off and, you know, and, you know, they'll put their feet up on the seat in front of it. I gotta tell you, I FL lot and I. I've never encountered an experience like that. I've never had really like, a bad flying experience until yesterday. I'm sitting first class, of course. I'm sitting in the very front row on first class. And the. The slob who is next to me, but, like, across the aisle, you know, it's not immediately next to me. He, him and his slob son, they're sitting on the aisle across from me. And Buddy's got his shoes off, no socks, box, the long gross toenails. The entire flight, he's got him up against the wall, you know, because they're in the first row. And like, I. I just. I don't understand. I don't understand people, man. Like, and. And by the way, they're always slobs, right? It's never like a good look. It's never like a handsome guy, you know?

[Stugotz]

What difference does that make?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It makes a difference. It makes a difference.

[Stugotz]

What do you mean it makes a difference? A handsome guy.

[Roy]

Usually the sun's like a Nepo baby.

[Stugotz]

So. So wait a minute.

[Roy]

You're.

[Stugotz]

What, you're alleging? Let me just. Let me see.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I understand not alleging anything.

[Stugotz]

I want to understand the nature of your allegation because it's not hard to say, hey, barefoot guy in the plane, don't do that. But what you're saying is it's always a slob. It's never a guy in a suit who looks presidential and also has decided to take off and show you shoes that are less talent than these shoes than these feet.

[Roy]

Slob dad is always kind of an entitled guy, a real narcissist.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, and he's on the phone being all loud and shit before take off. He's just. He's a slob dude up for his.

[Roy]

Son to get a job with his buddy, probably.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Son was like 400 pounds right next to him, I'm telling you. I guess, like, if he was right next to me, I'd have to say something, I guess because it was across the aisle. Because that's a delicate situation, right? I mean, where, like, if I say something. And now the rest of the flights, like, I started a confrontation, you know.

[Jeremy]

You give him looks, though, you can kill him.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, yes, of course, of course.

[Roy]

Thinning hair. Except for one of the sons, he's fine.

[Stugotz]

At Lebatard show, do you tell the guy in first class with his talon.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Feet out on, he did not belong in first class? Kick him out Even a kid.

[Jeremy]

He lost me when he had a kid in first class. How old's this kid? I don't like seeing, like.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, I said he was like £400, so he was.

[Stugotz]

Wait a minute. You're being a classist.

[Roy]

Kid's old enough to have his own child.

[Jeremy]

Okay, so it was old. Okay, I don't like us. I hate 6 year old in first class.

[Roy]

Perhaps the wife I'll kick this coverage with.

[Stugotz]

You're being a classist when. And. And a body shamer. You're being a classist. And a body is when you sit here and you say £400 slob on the phone, loud. Shouldn't be in first class. You. You shouldn't be in first class.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, I'm very well behaved, all right? I deserve to be in first class. If you're the type of person who. Who goes on a plane like that, you don't belong in first class. It's disgusting.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I picture this guy on a podcast right now being like, this slob next to me was watching Sopranos.

[Roy]

Yeah, that's what I want. I want to hear. So you know what? I want to hear the other guy's side. I want to hear the podcast of that guy probably with his son. Maybe his son's a co host. Maybe he's a producer. Maybe they do musical bits and they're talking about Zaslow as like this disgusting guy with a soda drinker's body and a big ass head watching Sopranos.

[Stugotz]

I can't believe that you publicly said at LeBatard show on Twitter juju that family ties is as good a rewatch as the Sopranos.

[Roy]

Wild.

[Stugotz]

Have you rewatched Family Ties saying I actually dabble in something like that And Miami Vice.

[Roy]

Listen, you're not going to compare dabbling something like that.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, when I need 20 minutes of something fast and I'm not thinking about anything and I'm bored about streaming Family Ties and something like Miami Vice. I'll check in on my childhood occasionally. The Jeffersons. I'll go watch 20 Minutes of Family.

[Roy]

Not family time.

[Stugotz]

All in the Family. All in the family. But to say that it airs as a rewatch in comparison to the success to the Sopranos is as bad a take as you've ever had.

[Roy]

Not enough f bombs for you, Dan Le Batard. Oh, I need someone to get off for me to feel like I'm watching good television.

[Jeremy]

It's like saying, like a mean saying like, oh, I do cocaine. And you saying, I dabble in something like that with caffeine don't put them.

[Stugotz]

In the same class.

[Roy]

Family ties. Great show. Beginning to end. Beginning to end. They never fell off. Can you say that about Sopranos? How many people were upset? Now everyone wants to do revisionist history. When that finale aired, boy, was America pissed.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm in the middle of the part in the show where Carmella and Tony aren't together, and I've realized I don't like that. It makes me uncom. I like when they're together. I don't like when they're together.

[Jeremy]

Like when they're together and he's cheating on her constantly.

[Roy]

Just like I like when Alex was with Ellen when they broke up. It kind of hurt me my feelings. Then we get a young Courtney Cox comes in as. What was her name? Lauren. What was her name? Roy. You know these things. No, no, I do not know her name.

[Stugotz]

All right, well, I love the history of the Sopranos. And one of the things that isn't known about the Sopranos is how much David Chase had to fight in order to get all of that stuff done. Including whenever it is the end of the first season or the beginning of the second where he has Tony actually murder someone. The feeling was that they were going to end the show right there because you could not have someone on telev who was an actual murderer and have anyone celebrate the show. Want to watch the show? Like it changed the way that television was made for the next 20 years.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. Wasn't he the first anti hero?

[Stugotz]

I don't know if he was the first or not, but he was given. He was given the credit for being the first because people were rooting for somebody who was a clear murderer. And it ended up spawning the ability to do Breaking Bad and all these other anti heroes where people were shield enjoying that.

[Roy]

Do you guys know why, why that is? Why is it, oh, we can't make the hero be a bad guy. You guys know why that is, right? Cause years and years and years ago when startup moviemaking in America, they had Scarface. The original Scarface came out and the government flipped out. Like, oh, we can't have this. They created this thing called the Hays Commission. Warren G. Hayes. Warren G. Harder had the Hays Commission. And they basically wrote this whole rule book for the good guy always has to to win. Bad people who do bad deeds have to have comeuppance. All this, like, you can't show like an open mouth kiss. All of these rules were written and for like 25, 30 years, every TV show, every movie had to follow those rules. This is An American invention idea like Good guy has to win, right? It wasn't until the 60s where the movie industry said, hey, we'll create our own thing called the MPAA and we will sell police because self police policing is better than having the government tell you what to do. That's why all that stuff happens now. The crazy thing is, even though those rules don't exist anymore, storytelling for decades still followed it out of habit. Cuz we were like, how can we have a good guy be bad? And now the moment someone did it, it was like, this is so revolutionary. But really it isn't because if you go back to the 30s, the bad guy.

[Stugotz]

Well this is why he says Family Ties is revolutionary because Michael J. Fox was a loud Republican child.

[Roy]

Do you know what the premise was of the show? Z, you're a TV God. What was the premise of Family Ties?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean the, the mother was supposed to be the star of the show, but Michael J. Fox ended up stealing it. And they built the show. He became the big star. They built the show around him.

[Roy]

You did a great Stephen A. Smith where I asked you a question, you answered a completely different question. I said what was the premise? Not who was the star of the show? Meredith Baxter. Bernie, by the way, put some respect on her name.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean the premise was a family, everyday life. What do you mean was the premise?

[Stugotz]

No, no.

[Guest Announcer]

The parents were hippies.

[Roy]

Parents were hippies in that generation.

[Stugotz]

The kid was pretending what America's future.

[Roy]

By being a Republican neocon. He was a neocon. And it was like, how could we have given birth to a neocon? That's the show.

[Jeremy]

Did he try to fuck his mom in that one too? Like in Back to the Future?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Jesus.

[Stugotz]

Jesus is the appropriate response. I'm sorry to do this to you. To Jeremy. Minor penalty, two minutes. Personal foul. Personal and foul.

[Jeremy]

Saw somebody tracking that. Jeremy was our leading penalty minutes person last year.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He's a goon.

[Stugotz]

You can't get enough. Peach bowl, Zaz. Peach bowl. See you later.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

See ya. Bye guys.