Hour 1: The Fan vs. The Fanatic (feat. Brett Favre's Sister?)

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: The Fan vs. The Fanatic (feat. Brett Favre's Sister?)

Date: December 18, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, with Chris Cote, Mike Schur, Zach Harper, Trista, Juju Smith-Schuster, and Jeremy

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This episode is a classic mix of sports, pop culture, personal confessionals, and signature banter, focusing on the evolving line between fandom and fanaticism in sports, laced with hilarious takes on table manners, sports controversies, and the intersection of sports and movies. The team navigates everything from the discomfort of big Miami events to GM youth movements in baseball, with diversions through bad-movie nostalgia, food etiquette, and the latest NFL headlines.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Support for David Samson and Community Generosity

[02:02–04:15]

• Dan opens with a heartfelt discussion about David Samson's personal difficulties and the charitable auction effort for St. Jude's.
• Mike Schur and Ariel Helwani have both patched up feuds with Samson to support the cause.
  • Dan: "David Samson is trying to do a good thing at an impossibly hard time...Mike Schur has broken his feud with David Samson. That was a real thing."
• Emphasizes the capacity for sports figures to come together during hardship.
  • Mike Schur: "Helwani said something similar...I was very touched by it."

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2. Dan’s Internal Debate: To Attend the Fight or Not?

[04:19–11:01]

• Dan expresses ambivalence about attending a big Miami MMA fight, citing the divisive crowd, his desire to pay for tickets as a principle, and the PR nature of these events.
  • Dan: "I kind of want to go to this fight, and I kind of don't want to go...I felt really alone in my own city with what everything that was about the worst parts of Miami that I don't want to be around."
• The gang riffs on what food would be most disgusting to eat out of a bag at a public event ("spaghetti," "shepherd’s pie," "milk steak"), and etiquette on spaghetti eating: spoon-or-no-spoon?
  • Trista: "Get over yourself. If I see someone twirling pasta with a spoon at the end of it. Get over yourself." (06:03)
  • Dan: "I've gone through 57 years of my life not knowing some base, very basic thing about table manners." (06:30)
• Juju Smith-Schuster and Zach Harper volunteer as Dan’s companions, joking about levels of celebrity and access.
  • Stugotz: "Going with me places is like going with damn near MC Hammer somewhere." (11:38)
  • Zach Harper: "No better access in my life than having juju by my side, man." (12:21)

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3. NFL Thursday Night Football: Bigger Than Ever

[15:13–18:28]

• Excitement and gravitas build around the upcoming Thursday Night Football matchup—labeled as the biggest yet.
  • Dan: "We used to make fun of Thursday Night Football. Now it's Al Michaels and Kirk Herb street calling the single biggest Thursday night game..." (15:13)
• Chris Cote highlights the rarity: first time two 11-win teams have played on TNF.
  • Chris Cote: "This is the first time that two 11 win teams have matched up on Thursday night..."

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4. Puka Nacua Family Drama & Athlete Controversies

[18:07–22:58]

• Discussion turns to Rams WR Puka Nacua’s rising fame and recent controversies involving him and his brother Samson Nacua (who was arrested for stealing a car belonging to a Lakers player).
  • Dan: "Puka Nakua has been on that show [Aiden Ross stream]...he said the refs are making calls just to be on television."
  • Chris Cote: "His brother who plays in the UFL slapped a fan…then yesterday…he was arrested for stealing a car." (19:51)
  • Zach Harper: "I guess the car had a tracker in it, but again they valet parked it." (20:50)
• Cautionary tales are drawn between the behavior of young stars and the infamous Antonio Brown saga.
  • Zach Harper: "What was Antonio Brown doing? He's live streaming from the locker room...I think this is very familiar."
• The show hesitates but doesn’t ignore that antisemitism has surfaced in this story; they’re uncomfortable and aware.
  • Dan: "I don't want to just skip past the anti Semitic parts of this. It's not a great time." (22:29)

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5. The ‘Dentek Bucket’ & Football Pick Segment

[23:24–28:30]

• The show’s signature fantasy punishment game returns, with the crew drawing random NFL teams and swapping picks, complete with mouthpieces for sponsorship purposes.
• Comic relief as everyone banters, swaps teams, and complains about unlucky draws and owed punishments.
  • Dan (dryly): "That was fun. It wasn't really." (27:59)
• Show pokes fun at the elaborate and sometimes chaotic nature of the “Bucket”.

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6. Generational Shift: Young GMs in Professional Baseball

[32:45–37:49]

• Dan reflects on the Nationals hiring a 31-year-old GM, questioning readiness at such age, and comparing with the Moneyball era rise of "whiz kids".
  • Dan: "Were you equipped at 31 years old to run a franchise, to be the GM of a franchise?"
  • Zach Harper: "Absolutely not. Because when you talk about leading ops department, it's not just, 'Oh, what trade should we do?'...A lot of times, when you're that age, you’re in this constant feeling of, 'I gotta prove to everybody I know my shit.'"
• Juju notes that Nationals’ management is even younger than some minor league staff, which sparks more debate about age and leadership.
  • Juju Smith-Schuster: "Their manager is 33, their GM is 31. Every single one of those guys is born after 1990." (36:52)

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7. Bad Sports Movies: “The Fan” vs “The Fanatic”

[38:00–43:29]

• Dan brings up obscure movie trivia: the De Niro film “The Fan” vs. “The Fanatic” by Fred Durst (Limp Bizkit), leading to a Cinephobe podcast plug and an impassioned bad movie breakdown.
  • Dan: "Were you aware of there's a worse movie than [The Fan] called the Fanatic by John Travolta?...written and directed by Limp Biscuits Fred Durst..."
  • Zach Harper: "The central character in The Fanatic is played by John Travolta...one of the most famous quotes is ‘Moose is in the house.’" (40:12)
  • Mike Schur & Zach Harper: Bond over deep-cut sports movie scenes and nitpicking radio realism in “The Fan.”
• Discussion strays to sports superstitions—like players and jersey numbers—and real-life consequences of sporting “bad movies.”

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Dan Le Batard (emotional): "I wouldn't wish what [David Samson] is going through on anybody that I cared about." (02:02)
• Trista (on spaghetti etiquette): "Get over yourself. If I see someone twirling pasta with a spoon at the end of it. Get over yourself." (06:03)
• Stugotz (on event access): "You know, going with me places is like going with damn near MC Hammer somewhere. You know, we just gonna be dancing and having a lot of high fives, bro." (11:38)
• Dan Le Batard (on Miami events): "This is a C or B seen thing and I don't want to be seen by these particular people." (08:47)
• Chris Cote (on TNF stakes): "This is the first time that two 11-win teams have matched up on Thursday night. It's been a very strange NFL season. Feels like a whole new era." (16:06)
• Zach Harper (on AEW): “No better access in my life than having juju by my side, man. Access to everything, private rooms and stuff.” (12:21)
• Dan Le Batard (on young GMs): "GM is different than a coach. And they really are going after the numbers guys trying to get the whiz kids who know better about how to exploit market inefficiencies with the numbers through the data." (34:44–35:45)
• Juju Smith-Schuster (front office youth): "Their manager is 33, their GM is 31. Every single one of those guys is born after 1990." (36:52)
• Dan Le Batard (on bad sports radio movies): "I'm honestly stunned that I placed in front of you a movie that had 150 big cats mauling crew members, and you're more excited about The Fan with Robert De Niro and a sports radio call..." (41:54)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:02] – David Samson charity, show-of-support stories
• [04:19] – “Should I go to this Miami fight?” internal debate
• [05:03–06:49] – The spaghetti etiquette debate (fork vs. spoon)
• [11:38] – Stugotz and Zach on how event access works with celebrity friends
• [15:13] – Build-up to the “biggest Thursday Night Football game ever”
• [18:07] – Puka Nacua controversies, family drama, live stream fallout
• [22:29] – Antisemitism and uncomfortable sides of sports controversies
• [23:24] – “Dentek Bucket” (NFL game pick ‘punishments’)
• [32:45] – Dan on GMs, front-office youth movement
• [38:00] – Movie segment: bad sports flicks and radio realism
• [41:54] – Dan’s incredulity at the love for “The Fan”

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Tone & Show Flair

• Original, irreverent, and always informal. The show combines vulnerability (admitting ignorance about table manners), inside jokes (eating spaghetti in a bag), sharp critiques (on young GMs, athlete behavior), and deep-dive nostalgia (bad sports movies).
• Signature blend: Sports commentary that’s less about box scores, and more about personalities, quirks, and cultural meaning—plus a healthy dose of self-deprecation and meta commentary.

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This episode is an essential listen for anyone who loves sports talk that isn't afraid to wander, joke, and uncover the beating (often bizarre) heart of what it means to be both a fan and a fanatic.

Transcript

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[Stugotz]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Matriculate.

[Commercial Announcer]

Mature.

[Dan Le Batard]

Matriculate. Matrix. Matic. Matric. Matriculate. I have had trouble this week sort of segueing from some of the stuff going on in the real world to the other things that we talk about. Silly. Every day. Like, we have still not talked about what happened with Rob Reiner because I had nowhere to put it in us trying to do nonsense. And I will just tell you that David Sampson is going through an impossibly hard time. I wouldn't wish what he's going through on anybody that I cared about.

[Zach Harper]

Ever.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the hardest thing. And in a recent episode of Pablo Torre finds out, Mike Scher and Joe Mandy are auctioning off a hat made by Mandy to raise fund for St. Jude's for Sampson's daughter. And if this audience, there are seven days left in the auction. Wants to help with, you know, David Sampson is trying to do a good thing at an impossibly hard time. And he's trying to raise funds for St. Jude's as a man who's run on seven continents in seven days to raise money, he's an impossibly strong and willful man. And what he's Going through is the hardest thing. So he. If you want to help Sampson's daughter. St. Jude's people going through difficulties with illness. Ptfo.betterworld.org There are seven days left in the auction. Ptfo.betterworld.org and Mike Schur has broken his feud with David Sampson. That was a real thing. Mike Scher has no use for David Sampson's worldview. David Sampson wanted his number because he's like, I can win anybody over. And Schur's like, don't ever give him my number. Nobody give him my number. I never want to talk to that person like that. I don't like what he represents in sports. Labor. And Mike Scher, because of what David Sampson is going to, is trying to help raise money for St. Jude's and for David Sampson, and none of the money will go to Sampson, obviously. Samson is actually very giving with his money.

[Mike Schur]

So Helwani said something similar last time he was here, too. I was very touched by it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ariel Helwani also broke his feud with David Sampson as well. Yeah, Helwani's in town for this fight, and I wanted to ask you guys, I've got a bit of a dilemma in that I kind of want to go to this fight, and I kind of don't want to go to this fight, because the last time that I went to an MMA event here and Trump came in, I felt really alone in my own city with what everything that was about the worst parts of Miami that I don't want to be around. But I kind of want to be ringside. And so what do I do? Because you go.

[Zach Harper]

You go. You go, and you bring your bag of shepherd's pie. There you go.

[Mike Schur]

God, I love shepherd's pie.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think shepherd's pie is worse than spaghetti? Like, spaghetti is so bad, guys. You guys are really.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

But I could see, like. Yeah, like, a little pee falling onto the floor and, like, rolling away.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys are doing spaghetti different than I'm doing spaghetti, though, because you're just doing it. Red sauce. Like, I can make it, like, a fettuccine or anything in that family and make it wings really more disgusting.

[Chris Cote]

You can't make a spaghetti.

[Trista]

Just pulling chicken wings out of a bag would be funny.

[Chris Cote]

You make spaghetti fettuccine. It's just fettuccine.

[Dan Le Batard]

Whatever. I can. Those noodles covered in an even creamier sauce than a red sauce. I can make a spaghetti even more fattening. You will not be surprised.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, you mean Alfredo.

[Zach Harper]

The red sauce pops, though. That's the problem. You see It. And it does that little stain on the side of the plastic. That's why whenever you put spaghetti and Tupperware, it's ruined forever.

[Mike Schur]

I would have a hard time eating the spaghetti at the game out of the plastic bag because I eat spaghetti with a fork and a spoon.

[Zach Harper]

Whoa.

[Mike Schur]

Yeah, I gotta like, you know, the.

[Zach Harper]

Noodles the worst fancy.

[Mike Schur]

So I wouldn't be able to do it.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

What about jello?

[Dan Le Batard]

Is that the worst? You think it's the worst? He's just doing it neatly so it doesn't.

[Trista]

Get over yourself. If I see someone twirling pasta with a spoon at the end of it. Get over yourself.

[Mike Schur]

I have to do the spoon.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys think he's eating pasta wrong by using the spoon.

[Trista]

You're not better than me. You're not better than me.

[Zach Harper]

He's eating it aristocratically cleaner than you.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

You can't wear that outfit. And then also that way.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is there a proper way to eat spaghetti? Like, is there a.

[Zach Harper]

Definitely the spaghetti with the spoon. That's how you're supposed to eat it. If you are someone who doesn't wear a Roman Reigns T shirt to your.

[Chris Cote]

Anniversary dinner, you know what an alpha move is? Bringing scissors.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm really bad. My. My family. I'm really bad. I've gone through 57 years of my life not knowing some base, very basic thing about table manners. For example, Mike Scher was actually the one who showed me this the other day. I was unaware until a month ago that you put your credit card in the bill at the top to tell the waiter that that's where you put the credit card.

[Trista]

You think a little flap was there?

[Mike Schur]

What do you think that's not.

[Zach Harper]

That little pocket was there for us.

[Dan Le Batard]

Listen, listen. There are a thousand things you guys would be surprised that I don't know about. Very simple table manners. And I'm asking you genuinely, how do you properly eat Spaghett? If I were to eat at a formal dinner with royalty, what is the correct way to eat spaghetti out of a bag?

[Zach Harper]

Dan, all your years just as an adult, you go out to eat, whether you went to Chili's or you went to prime or whatever, anything in between, they hand you the bill. There's there no intellectual curiosity of you when you open it up? What is this plastic pocket at the top?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't admit this with anything except shame and embarrassment.

[Mike Schur]

How would the server know that you're ready to pay?

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys are properly shocked. I too was shocked to learn this a month ago.

[Zach Harper]

I'm not. I'm not shocked that you didn't know. I'm asking you the millions of times you opened up the bill and you saw that plastic thing at the top. What did you think about it?

[Dan Le Batard]

Never noticed it. Never noticed the receipt. I've noticed the plastic thing at the top. Never noticed that one of those was there for me. I put the credit card in the thing and I put it away from where it is that I'm eating. That's how I've always told the waiter that the bill is ready to be taken. I have never once noticed that flap or used that flap.

[Mike Schur]

That's wild.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are we done here? Like, are we done? Making me feel judged about this. Like I admit something to you.

[Trista]

Give us another one. What else do you do?

[Dan Le Batard]

How do you eat spaghetti?

[Zach Harper]

Doesn't know how to eat spaghetti.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know you guys seize on the piranha. Twirl the fork.

[Trista]

You twirl the fork. You put your mouth.

[Dan Le Batard]

You bite.

[Trista]

You lean over the plate like an animal.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're going to teach me? Yeah, I'll teach you.

[Zach Harper]

Let's get some spaghetti in here. Have Zaz demonstrate.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you want to go to this fight? But I'll only let you go if we spend the entire time eating things out of bags that disgusting. That could be on the Internet forever. Like, I'm not going with you otherwise.

[Mike Schur]

Okay, but you have to sneak it in. Like, they're not going. You carry. You're going to put under your shirt.

[Zach Harper]

Dan Levitzer. What you don't let us.

[Dan Le Batard]

They'll let us do what we want at this fight. They're not. Tickets aren't selling the way you think they are. Like, if, if we go, I am. This is a C or B seen thing and I don't want to be seen by these particular people. And then I'm going to be sitting there for four hours because the thing's not going to happen till 1, you know, 1O'. Clock morning.

[Trista]

Can I bring the trophy battle court?

[Mike Schur]

Don't even ask me.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you guys want to. Who would want to sit next to me at this fight? Because I am. I am genuinely. I don't want to go. The only reason to go is to be seen at this fight.

[Trista]

I'll go.

[Mike Schur]

What time again is the main event going to be?

[Dan Le Batard]

It'll be at 1 o' clock in the morning.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

So you don't want me to go?

[Zach Harper]

Dan. I'll go. I'll go. But I have to wrap myself in a flag and it's not the American flag. Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm asking you guys for Genuine advice on this. Because, first of all, my wife learned this morning that I demand on paying for tickets, that I can't take tickets for free. I won't take tickets for free.

[Chris Cote]

Journalists.

[Zach Harper]

You're for real? You're one of these people?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Mike Schur]

Wow.

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[Chris Cote]

Big J Used to be.

[Zach Harper]

It told me very deep into my ESPN career, like, you're not supposed to accept free tickets. I'm like, the hell I'm not.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. But my wife learned this this morning because I insist on paying for the tickets. And my question to you guys.

[Mike Schur]

Only for sporting events, like concerts.

[Dan Le Batard]

You would.

[Zach Harper]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

Anything. I can't. Well, the Heat run that facility. I can't take concert tickets from the Heat.

[Zach Harper]

Conflict of interest. How is he supposed to be an unbiased journalist when he's getting all these freebies?

[Dan Le Batard]

Why am I explaining this to you as a journalist?

[Mike Schur]

Like, I love free shit. Come on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, then. So you just take everything? Yeah.

[Mike Schur]

Oh, yeah, baby. That's me twice.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's so radio. I'm asking you guys for advice here because I genuinely had the conversation. It's my birthday week and I wasn't able to celebrate it Tuesday. I postponed it so that I could spend this time with my wife. I don't actually wanna go to this thing. The only reason to go to it, and it's gonna be expensive. Cause I have to pay for the ticket. The only reason is to be seen at an important event in Miami. There's no other reason to go for it. And I don't like the people physically who are gonna be surrounding me.

[Commercial Announcer]

It sounds like a pretty easy decision.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't do it.

[Chris Cote]

You're curious.

[Zach Harper]

You gotta go.

[Chris Cote]

You've been curious about this fight. Don't you want to get up close?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I want to see him get knocked out.

[Zach Harper]

And also then you owe it.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the only. The only reason to go is to see him lose badly in the first round because he shouldn't be in the ring with this person.

[Mike Schur]

If you don't finish the spaghetti in the bag and he gets knocked out. You stay in your seat until you finish eating.

[Zach Harper]

You let everyone walk out, get up and walk out around you as you sit there.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's four hours. It's gonna be like. It's not gonna be a lot of fun until the one minute I'm there for like. It's four. It's four or five hours. Coverage starts at five. So you juju.

[Stugotz]

I mean, I feel like you didn't ask me because, you know, I want to Go. You know, I would be the person to go with. If you pull up, we gonna be. Come on, man. You know, going with me places is like going with damn near MC Hammer somewhere. You know, we just gonna be dancing and having a lot of high fives, bro.

[Zach Harper]

Dan, if you want to see and be seen, right, and have people make a spectacle, you bring that man with you right there. I guarantee you Jake Paul, on his way into the ring, will stop and dap him up.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's not an ornament, he's a human being.

[Chris Cote]

Goodell dapped him up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, okay, so you. Well, that's a different experience.

[Stugotz]

Trust me. Trust me, Dan. Outside of these walls, people like me. I'm a pretty good guy.

[Zach Harper]

Outside of here, Dan, I'm an NBA guy, right? I'm a big deal. I go around all star weekend. I'm telling you, no better access in my life than having juju by my side, man. Access to everything, private rooms and stuff. Like, what's going on here? Then they just saw juju.

[Stugotz]

Hey, man, what's going on?

[Zach Harper]

And next thing we know, we're inside.

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[Mike Schur]

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[Chris Cote]

Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a good algorithm.

[Stugotz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

I have been remiss in mentioning that before, what is the single biggest game in the history of Thursday Night Football? I have erred and not talking about this before now because the title's going to someone new. It's gonna be something fresh. And you're about to learn things about Puka Nakua because you're paying attention that might be uncomfortable to learn about Puka Nakua because you've only sort of known for a while that, oh, there's another Ram that's catching all the touchdown passes and the Rams can make anything with anyone. They can make Puka Nakua into Cooper Cup. Davonte Adams is going to try and play in this game, which is sort of crazy, and he has to because it's a kind of important game and there's never been one like this. We used to make fun of Thursday Night Football. Now it's Al Michaels and Kirk Herb street calling the single biggest Thursday night game there is because we're ready for a new champion and a lot of us would think it might be playing tonight on either sideline.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, well, Philadelphia is still alive to win the super bowl, but this is the first time that two 11 win teams have matched up on Thursday night. It's been a very strange NFL season. Feels like a whole new era. It's week 16 and no one's won a division just yet. These are the two favorites to win the next Super Bowl. Whoever wins this game is going to have the inside track because they're going to have home field. This is the biggest Thursday night football game in the NFL ever.

[Mike Schur]

That's interesting that they're so. They're number one and two favorites because one of them is going to have to play all road games in the playoffs.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, we'll see how it impacts the odds. But the AFC is so wide open that, yeah, you have two teams inside the same division.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, but this is. There are a number of things that are important about this game, but whenever they do super bowl matchup type stuff, the NFC is so much stronger than the afc. The teams at the top of that division, whoever, the Rams, if the Rams lose a couple of games, they're suddenly not in the same position that they were in as a team that this season has lost three games. All of them by one score. All of them weird. That team could be undefeated. All of them weird games. Like the Rams could be easily undefeated because they have an offense. McVay, I guess, got forgotten last year because they got hurt, but they have an offense that will make Devonte Adams try to get out there tonight. But the last time he had these two receivers, Odell Beckham got home, got hurt in the super bowl and was going to go for 200 yards. Like McVay can do it with this quarterback. He's shown us. He was throwing no look passes to Cooper cup in a Super Bowl. That team plays tonight against a team that it needed to turn the ball over four times. And the Seahawks were still kicking for the game at the end because the Seahawks are really good, but they play in the same division and in a conference where the 49ers have four losses. It's absurd what that division is and it's absurd that anything from Tampa Bay's division is going to be playing a playoff game.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, you know you're going to be taking that home dog, that NFC south home dog first round. You do not want to go into that building.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a giant game. And the. The wide receiver for the Rams, Puka Nkua is a household name because he's got a poetic name and he's super excellent, super tough. His brother has been arrested for shoplifting and he was on a live stream, not shoplifting. I'm sorry for car. I'm sorry for. I'm sorry. I didn't. Shoplifting.

[Zach Harper]

I wish it was shoplifting.

[Dan Le Batard]

I confused him.

[Chris Cote]

Grabbed a Twix.

[Dan Le Batard]

I confused him with Brett Favre's sister, who we did this to. She was a shoplifter.

[Zach Harper]

Also, Lonzo Ball's brother was a shoplifter.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pukinakua's brother did a carjacking Allegedly, Pukinakua has also been on a live stream in which last was it? Last night with Aiden Ross.

[Chris Cote]

Never let that happen. By the way, teams don't let your athletes go on Natum Ross.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Good lord, man.

[Chris Cote]

You can't let that one sneak through communications.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a very popular podcast. It's a very popular podcast in sports. Puka Nakua has been on that show and these are popular. This is a place where an athlete who is young, who wants to reach a different audience. You mean Nazis or Pukinakua? So let's talk about this for a second because what Pukinakua has done on this live stream, the news of yesterday was that he went on the live stream and he said the refs are making calls just to be on television. The refs are the worst. That was yesterday's controversy.

[Chris Cote]

There was some other stuff.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but see, that hadn't gotten to me until I just heard you guys talking about it 10 minutes ago.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, you could say certifiably worst week in the Nukua family went to Puka. And then last night happened. Just a banner day for the surname.

[Zach Harper]

His brother said, hold my beer.

[Chris Cote]

His brother who plays in the UFL slapped a fan. There's video of this in full uniform.

[Mike Schur]

Why?

[Chris Cote]

You know, right here we have video because the fan probably said something that bothered him. That's just my guess. I haven't reported on the situation.

[Zach Harper]

Great reach. But that didn't happen yesterday. Or that wasn't the news that came out yesterday. The news, Dan, that came out yesterday about Puka Ngua's brother Samson, by the way, is his name Samson Nakua? Was that. He was arrested for stealing a car. Now you say whoa, was a random car. Like no, it was a Lakers player car. Then you say, well how did they get caught? Like was there a police chase? Like no, they drove the car and they valeted it.

[Chris Cote]

No.

[Zach Harper]

And then they went inside a hotel to hang out and. And cops came to arrest him and his dumb ass buddy in the hotel lobby.

[Chris Cote]

The crime is almost too perfect.

[Zach Harper]

The valet, the stolen car, the proof.

[Dan Le Batard]

For the cops could be found in the pocket. Like hand me the valet slip or the picture you take of the valet.

[Zach Harper]

I guess the car had a tracker in it, but again they valet parked it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who was the Laker he stole it from? Do we know which it's the rookie.

[Zach Harper]

What's his name? Yeah, Tiero, I do.

[Dan Le Batard]

So it's a nice car. He just stole a Laker.

[Zach Harper]

He plays with the Lakers, Dan. It's not a It's not a Mazda Miata.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but did he just go to the valet stand outside of the. Like, how did he steal the car?

[Zach Harper]

He did.

[Dan Le Batard]

I called it a car. First I called it shoplifting, then I called it carjacking. Did he just take it from the valet?

[Zach Harper]

No, he took the car and then valeted it later. He's like, I'm driving a stolen car. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna valet it at the place I'm at right now.

[Mike Schur]

I think Dan's asking how he hopped.

[Dan Le Batard]

Carjacking. I accused him of carjacking. That's not. Same thing. That carjacking is with a gun. Did he just pick it up outside the lake?

[Chris Cote]

You're the one that made a carjacking.

[Dan Le Batard]

So he just picked up the car outside the laker.

[Chris Cote]

The spectrum of crimes that poor Samson Nakua has allegedly committed, according to Dan Lebatard.

[Zach Harper]

Also, by the way, going back to Puka Nakua, he did the stream and all that stuff. But do you guys know he tried to get those guys into the practice facility?

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so do you guys, though, want to talk about what he did on the live stream?

[Mike Schur]

Jeremy sounds like he's got something to say.

[Zach Harper]

Before we get to the live stream, I just want to say all of these things that PUK is doing, they're very, very, very familiar. I don't know if you guys remember Antonio Brown at the very beginning, when he's still with the Steelers. What was Antonio Brown doing? He's live streaming from the locker room. He's doing all this stuff. He's hanging out with these people. We're like, oh, he's just eccentric. And then we know where I ended up. This feels very similar.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Really?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. Is he still dating Charlotte Flair?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't want to just skip past the anti Semitic parts of this. It's not a great time. I don't. I don't want to ruin this by making Jeremy make us all serious, but it seemed like you. I was learning about what happened here from you and Zaz talking about it 10 minutes ago.

[Mike Schur]

Yeah, I was learning about it too.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. It's not something that I don't know. We're talking about the other parts of this story. Not a part of this story that probably not a lot of people are talking about, but it's kind of about.

[Zach Harper]

It's Dan, it's Tanuka. We don't want to bring the move down.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

More like Puka. No jewels.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay? So we are gonna just move on. Bring in the Grim Reaper here. The Grim Reaper and the bucket. The Dentek Bucket. I don't have this mouthpiece in. Yeah, I was. I'm sorry to Dentech for not having the mouthpiece in. You should have it in in order to stop headaches if you grind at night.

[Trista]

The bucket is presented by Dentek's ultimate fantasy football punishment. The next big fantasy fantasy football punishment is almost here. Watch for your wow. Watch for the [e-mail].

[Chris Cote]

It'S okay, Trisha.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know about that mouthpiece. I got it in. Chris was not wearing a mouthpiece.

[Chris Cote]

That's why he stumbled.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's how that happened.

[Stugotz]

I got the Atlanta Falcons.

[Chris Cote]

Peace up.

[Dan Le Batard]

A town down.

[Chris Cote]

They're at the Cardinals and they are a three and a half point road favorite.

[Stugotz]

I'm gonna put it back.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really? You're Atlanta. Really? What are you doing?

[Chris Cote]

That's why.

[Stugotz]

I know. I know that. Don't take the Falcons rummaging.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ah, the Jets.

[Chris Cote]

It's always dangerous to put back a favor.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're right at the Saints. They're at the Saints. They're four and a half point dog.

[Trista]

Trista, you know how this works. You can make a pick and if you don't like it, you get one.

[Chris Cote]

Put back seven point swing on that.

[Zach Harper]

All right, we are.

[Dan Le Batard]

We are rummaging.

[Zach Harper]

We are rolling around.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chief Gardner Minshew at Tennessee. Three and a half point favorite.

[Commercial Announcer]

Three and a half, I think.

[Chris Cote]

I think.

[Dan Le Batard]

I say yes.

[Chris Cote]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Chris Cote]

Gardner Minshew for you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mania. Good for you. Yeah, good for you. Show some guts. Why don't. It's a three and a half point favorite. Team of a generation against the worst team in the world.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah, I think they're pretty good.

[Chris Cote]

I got the Patriots. They got Sunday Night Football at Baltimore. That is a Waterloo game.

[Dan Le Batard]

Baltimore's a 3 1/2 point favorite.

[Chris Cote]

I like road variable, but this isn't against the spread. This is straight up. I'm putting it back.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Wow.

[Chris Cote]

All right, here we go. Alan Falcon, Sir.

[Dan Le Batard]

Upgrade.

[Zach Harper]

All right, guys. Hey, did you know there's a Cam Ward documentary on Tubi?

[Chris Cote]

That's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is it any good?

[Chris Cote]

Zero star. That's the name of the show, not my review.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is it any good?

[Chris Cote]

I don't know. They were filming it for a while. That's great information, Mike.

[Dan Le Batard]

Insider.

[Chris Cote]

They were working on it.

[Trista]

You happen to know.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you get the Lions there?

[Zach Harper]

I got the Panthers. They're playing Tampa Bay.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're a three and a half point dog at home.

[Zach Harper]

And the winner just wins a division, right? No, that's too many stakes. Too many stakes.

[Chris Cote]

Wahoo.

[Zach Harper]

No. Too many stakes.

[Dan Le Batard]

You mentioned that. It's a three and a half point favorite. A three and a half point dog at home for the division.

[Zach Harper]

Dan, the statue outside has balls. I don't.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's see what you also.

[Zach Harper]

I'm 5 and 0 this year, so I need this. I need the undefeated season.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Ooh, milk steak out of a bag.

[Zach Harper]

Commander.

[Chris Cote]

They are a 6.5 point home dog to the super bowl championship Eagles. This might be it for your undefeated streak. That game is on Saturday.

[Dan Le Batard]

Should be worse.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

I got Tony's Jacksonville Jaguars.

[Chris Cote]

Jacksonville is at Denver. They're only a three and a half point dog, but Denver's a hot spot. No, I'm a huge Denver guy.

[Zach Harper]

If you had a documentary, would you want it to be airing on Tubi, specifically?

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, I got the Broncos.

[Chris Cote]

Where'd it go?

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Chris Cote]

Some good game changers. If you had a documentary, my inclination is you just want it anywhere. Hard to sell those things.

[Zach Harper]

If you say. I'm just saying. If you say, I think tubi, I mean, hey, we're gonna make a documentary about your life. It'll be on tubi.

[Chris Cote]

That's right.

[Zach Harper]

You know what? Nevermind. I got the swap helmet put on YouTube.

[Trista]

Let me pick my helmet. Now I got the Vikings.

[Chris Cote]

All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's all I want to. Well, he doesn't have to keep it anyways. No, he's gonna give it to somebody else.

[Trista]

Let me see here. Who do I want?

[Zach Harper]

Commander.

[Dan Le Batard]

Commander.

[Trista]

Go in there. I'll make my.

[Zach Harper]

Take the Commander.

[Dan Le Batard]

Vikings are at the Giants. There's a good helmet.

[Chris Cote]

You should probably keep it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Three and a half point favorite.

[Chris Cote]

It looks like Ocala's kind of figuring out JJ McCarthy, too. It is starting to come online.

[Zach Harper]

One game.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, two.

[Chris Cote]

Two games.

[Mike Schur]

I got the Buffalo Bills.

[Chris Cote]

Buffalo is. Are we still doing bye weeks?

[Zach Harper]

We are.

[Dan Le Batard]

Camaraderie. I'm gonna keep it. Ten and a half point favorite.

[Trista]

And I will swap with Zaslow.

[Dan Le Batard]

I got the Jags. I don't believe in either of these teams. I don't believe in Jacksonville and Denver. So I'll just keep Zazzle.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

You have lack of belief in Denver.

[Trista]

Zazzle, you have the Vikings. I'm swapping with you.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Chris Cote]

That was fun.

[Dan Le Batard]

It wasn't really. I would say there was too many people. I would say that it reminded me of all the times I haven't enjoyed doing the bucket because probably keep the mouthpiece in.

[Trista]

What do you think?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I think that's also.

[Chris Cote]

Thank you to Dentek.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

And not Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

We had a good season at the bucket. It was much more disciplined. People. People paid their penalties.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

We've still got a few to pay off.

[Chris Cote]

Don't you worry, Dan.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

I'm on it.

[Trista]

Could not have lost more this season.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Yeah, you owe four punishments still.

[Trista]

I think it's three.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Nope.

[Trista]

I'm gonna check my math on that.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

I have the math.

[Chris Cote]

I have a dangerous punishment. I have to pick any name out of a bucket, a cast member from this show, and I have to dress like them.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

We're filling it only with me.

[Zach Harper]

What if you pull Zaz?

[Chris Cote]

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[Trista]

Folks, listen up. You know my holiday pattern by now. Every single year I tell myself, listen, Chris, you're going to be thoughtful this year. You're going to get good gifts. You're not going to be lazy. You're not just going to get gift cards. And this year, guys, I have news. I pulled it off. No panic. No sad little card. You know what I gave? I gave an aura frame. Like, why is it so hard to find a personal gift these days? It's for the people I'm closest to. My parents, my wife, my in laws, my kid. The most important people in my world. I have no idea what I'm supposed to get them as a gift, but one thing I know, people light up when they get photos.

[Jeremy]

People love photos.

[Trista]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard.

[Stugotz]

I ain't never met nobody in the world that's gonna hate on Great nomination. Like who don't like Blues Clues? Bruh, if you don't like Blues Clues, you're a loser.

[Chris Cote]

Stugats.

[Stugotz]

Look, you get one paw print. That's the first clue. You put it in a notebook. Now what do you do? Blues Clues. Blues Clues.

[Trista]

Sit on the chair and think about it.

[Stugotz]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, I wanted to ask you somebody, something. As somebody who dedicated his life to front office success. When the nationals hire someone 31 years old to be their general manager to run their baseball franchise against the, against the Nets and the Braves, the person is 31 years old. Were you equipped at 31 years old to run a franchise, to be the GM of a franchise?

[Zach Harper]

Absolutely not. And I think for several reasons. And this guy might be awesome. I don't know anything about him. I just learned the story from you right now. But here's the problem, right? Number one is you have just experience and institutional knowledge that's so huge in these things. Yes. There's all sorts of new cutting edge technologies and stuff that being able to adapt to, being able to adopt is easier for a younger person. But a lot of stuff is just knowing stuff that's happened because you've lived it. You were, you were around when, hey, I remember when we traded so and so, or when so and so was traded for such and such. And I think that's a huge thing that people overlook when they hire a young exec. Number two, I know for myself, I definitely did not have the temperament to be a leader. Because when you talk about leading ops department, it's not just, oh, what trade should we do? And give me the analytics readouts. It's like, I have to, number one, manage up. And that's a skill in and of itself. How many billionaires have you been around in your life to where you know how to handle this situation? Number two, you've got to know how to delegate. And a lot of times when you're that age, I know for me, I was when I was age, I know a lot of people like this. You're in this constant feeling of, I gotta prove to everybody I know my shit. Which means I gotta do everything and I gotta do it at a high level. So everyone says, oh my God, he's so good at this and so good at that. And I think those are kind of maturity things that I'm not saying people are immature at 31. I'm just saying things that you have to have a certain comfort level that is not typical among someone that young.

[Dan Le Batard]

The reason I ask you the question is I'm trying to think if baseball is somehow different. Okay? So at the start of the Moneyball movement, when they started hiring young people who were good at math, modern Paul Dipatesta left the Oakland A's and was wanted to run a baseball team. And he's gone back and forth between baseball and football and whatever power they gave him with the Cleveland Browns has been a disaster with the Cleveland Browns. If he had anything to do with anything happening there, that was a failure. And now he goes to the Rockies, who are epically bad, and he goes to run the Rockies with whatever he's learned from being whiz kid to being 50 year old. Sean McVay obviously knows something as a young person, as a 31 year old that the rest of us didn't have access to. How do I bridge the gulf if I'm going to give this over to a baseball team is different than some of these other teams. A GM is different than a coach. And they really are going after the numbers guys trying to get the whiz kids who know better about how to exploit market inefficiencies with the numbers through the data.

[Zach Harper]

Right. I think first of all, there's a big difference in coaching and GMing. Like front office work and coaching work is totally different. To me, a coach can be young, especially if he's got a playing experience or has been an assistant coach for a while. There's a lot of stuff you can figure out as a coach with. Again, with being a gm, being in the front office. There's so much juggling of things that are. That seem like are beyond what most people consider the. The auspices of the game. Like, this is what you need. This is. This is the stuff that is important. There's so much more. And then like I said, when you're interacting with an owner, I don't know. Again, I just learned this story right now from you. Is he the president of baseball operations?

[Dan Le Batard]

He's the general manager. He is not. He's more powerful than the manager. He's running the place.

[Zach Harper]

Yes, but. No, no, but see, there you go. I'm gonna stop you there because this is a new thing across baseball and basketball. This thing where like I have a GM and this is a gm, he does all the trades and he has the analytics and stuff. But then he answers to another layer before we get to ownership. The president of ops. And that guy is typically going to be like, Stan Castin was in LA and stuff.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

And for the Nationals, that is Paul Taboni, who is 35 years old. Their manager is 33, their GM is 31. Every single one of those guys is born after 1990.

[Chris Cote]

Chris and I are a little confused that you're going to amin on this when you're looking at The GM of the Year. I'm sorry. Did you win a championship in your sport?

[Trista]

What do you need to know?

[Chris Cote]

Did you build a championship roster?

[Zach Harper]

No, I didn't. I.

[Chris Cote]

Well, Amare came off the bench. We all know what happened.

[Dan Le Batard]

We all.

[Zach Harper]

Hold on.

[Trista]

Did you find an unda.

[Zach Harper]

Hold on, man. First of all, you're not gonna disrespect my WNBA titles.

[Chris Cote]

That's right.

[Zach Harper]

An Olympic gold medal and an Olympic gold medal. But I was not. To be fair to y', all, I was not the GM in any of those segments.

[Chris Cote]

That's right. And you're pretty far removed from the game. We won a championship last week.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

It is pretty crazy that the Nationals front office is younger on average age than the Cyclones front office.

[Trista]

What do you want to know, Dan?

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you GM of the Year or is he the GM of the year? Which of you is the GM of the year? That's right.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Yes.

[Chris Cote]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. You're both the GM of the year.

[Chris Cote]

There he goes, trying to drive that wedge.

[Zach Harper]

The Nationals leadership is younger on average age than the Clippers. That's not the Clippers front office. Not the Clippers coaching staff. The Clippers.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, I need your help with a couple of movie things, since you are our movie expert and you have said that Zaz is not. Zaz has something for you on the movie front, too. But among these three movie stories, I want to know which one you find more interesting, because I discovered three things I did not know about. About recent movies and a 1980 movie. Have you ever heard of the movie roar from 1980? Because it was 150 large cats, and apparently everyone on the set got mauled. Like, there were 70 injuries to staff people. So I want to know whether you want to go down that path, whether you want to go down the path of Pedro. Pedro Pascal was in a movie this year that made $2,750. $2,750. And then the other movie fact that I learned here recently, and I couldn' believe it. Do you remember the movie the Fan with Robert De Niro? Truly, truly awful movie. I won't spoil it for you. But at the end, Robert De Niro does something as the umpire that's unspeakable.

[Chris Cote]

In a driving rainstorm.

[Dan Le Batard]

But the thing that I wanted to tell you about this is, were you aware of there's a worse movie than that called the Fanatic by John Travolta? And the thing that I did not know, it was written and directed by Limp Biscuits Fred Durst, which is another person that Zaslo dresses like.

[Zach Harper]

Okay, so first of all, the fanatic, Cinephobe, episode 26.

[Chris Cote]

What's Cinephobe?

[Zach Harper]

The Cinephobe is the podcast where Zach Harper and I watch movies that are poorly rated on Rotten Tomatoes and try to ascertain whether they're accurately rated or maybe didn't get a fair shake. Cinephobe. Wherever you get podcasts, today's episode is the Three Musketeers. It just came out today. Blue. But episode 26 was the Fanatic. Episode 60 of Cinephobe was the Fan. So I've reviewed both of these movies, Dan, and I know a lot. And the central character in the Fanatic is played by John Travolta. He plays perhaps a mentally challenged. We don't know. It's never explicitly said. And his name is Moose. And one of the most famous quotes is Moose is in the house.

[Dan Le Batard]

You were very excited about that.

[Zach Harper]

These are.

[Chris Cote]

You opened up a Google Doc.

[Zach Harper]

Yeah, these are. I gotta know the episode.

[Chris Cote]

He's got the notes.

[Zach Harper]

These are two of my all time favorite episodes we've ever done in the Fan with Robert De Niro and Wesley Snipes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, Bobby.

[Zach Harper]

There is a sports radio character who we all believe to be modeled after Michelle Beadle, even though Michelle Beadle wasn't doing sports radio in the 90s. Ellen Barkin.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Mike Schur]

You know who the producer is?

[Zach Harper]

Oh, it's Jack Black. Yep, yep. See, so they open. This is one of my favorite things, Dan, because people, like I said, people watch movies. They don't know shit about anyone else's jobs other than their own. But I've worked sports radio. So imagine a sports radio show where it's like, all right, hey, welcome to the Da Da Da show. Let's open up the phone lines. Now immediately, the first segment, before she even lays anything out, opens up the phone lines. And then the, you know, Bobby De Niro is driving and he's like calling, yeah, we got our guy, Bobby Rayburn, and da, da, da. And I just hate the negativity you always have on the show. And he starts killing her right there. And then Bobby Rayburn hears and he calls in. This is all in the first segment of a radio show. He calls in and then him and Robert De Niro start having a conversation like, hey, man, thanks for being such a great fan. That's why I came here and signed with the job. It is a great movie, Dan. You call it a bad movie, It's a great movie.

[Stugotz]

Negativity is what Amin said.

[Dan Le Batard]

Negativity I am honestly stunned that I placed in front of you a movie that had 150 big cats mauling crew members. And you're more excited about the Fan with Robert De Niro and a sports radio call at the beginning of that. Your love of bad movies is staggering.

[Zach Harper]

So here's the deal. So he's a big free agent signing. He comes back to San Francisco Bay area, everyone's excited. But then he doesn't start so hot. And then he has his number, and he didn't have his number. Who wore his number?

[Mike Schur]

Juan Primo.

[Zach Harper]

Juan Primo, played by Benicio Del Toro. Benicio Del Toro. Yeah. Look at this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Connecting. Okay, experts.

[Zach Harper]

All right, so. So Robert De Niro's character, Gilbert, he's upset. He's like, it's all because you don't have his number. And it's that dude's fault. So what does he resolve to do? He confronts Juan Primo and says, hey, man, why don't you just give up the number? It's all good.

[Mike Schur]

And then where does he confront him?

[Zach Harper]

At a strip club in the bathroom.

[Chris Cote]

Wow. Not a single eyelid was open in that scene between Del Toro and De Niro.

[Zach Harper]

And so Juan Primo, imagine a player having some fan come in and say, you gotta give up your number to the other guy. Get the hell outta my face. So, of course, Gilbernard, who I should mention at this point is a knife salesman.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah.

[Zach Harper]

Stabs him to death.

[Chris Cote]

That's a thread.

[Mike Schur]

Got him his number back.

[Zach Harper]

He did.

[Dan Le Batard]

You two have never been so aligned. You. You two have looked in each other's eyes, and you have a love of movies in a singular language. You're.

[Zach Harper]

Look, you can love a sports movies. I think. I think this is a sports movie.

[Stugotz]

Great movie.

[Zach Harper]

Have you seen the Fanatic?

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Of course.

[Mike Schur]

With. What's his name?

[Zach Harper]

Devin Sawa.

[Mike Schur]

Yes.

[Chris Cote]

I'm a big fan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait a minute. Wait, that's what.

[Mike Schur]

Patton Oswald.

[Chris Cote]

That's right.

[Mike Schur]

Yeah, I've seen that too.

[Dan Le Batard]

You have not seen the movie by Fred Durst.

[Zach Harper]

I have.

[Dan Le Batard]

You. He said.

[Zach Harper]

Oh, oh, maybe I haven't.

[Mike Schur]

No, maybe I haven't.

[Dan Le Batard]

Then with John Travolta.

[Mike Schur]

No, I haven't seen it.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the biggest turd on a Travolta resume that has a thousand turds on it. Bop Peacock.

[Stugotz]

What kind of nonsense is it that a player on your team passes away and you give the number to the other teammate? What is that like Philip Rivers? How does he get to wet? Number 17, Daniel Jones is on the roster, man, it's called the Slump Buster.

[Zach Harper]

Samson taught us that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Again with the Slump Buster. We have never foiled Samson that way. He has never had that experience where he was just Derek Jeter's a bad person. Everyone knows that.

[Zach Harper]

You don't respect the boulevard and you don't respect the fans.

[Stugotz]

Samson also said that Philip Rivers would not start he was uninsurable.

[Zach Harper]

I guess they got some insurance.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is, no one else broke down the Philip Rivers story the way Sampson did with He's Uninsurable.

[Commercial Announcer]

The crazy thing about Sampson is that he opened up the show to take a shot at Zsasz and other people about being so confidently wrong.

[Juju Smith-Schuster]

Wow.

[Commercial Announcer]

Multiple times during the show and I.

[Chris Cote]

Think the WNBA will prove this that.

[Commercial Announcer]

Take that he's so confidently wrong.

[Jeremy]

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