Hour 1: The Foundation of Americana

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 1: The Foundation of Americana
Date: November 17, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

In this brisk and irreverent episode, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Greg Cody, Mike Ryan, Chris Cody, and crew dive into the intersection of sports, nostalgia, and social trends—anchored by debates over petty change, respect (and disrespect) on and off the field, and the blurred lines between fan passion and unacceptable behavior. The group’s familiar blend of South Florida flavor, wit, and lively debate is on full display, dissecting NFL chaos, the "death of the penny" as a cultural touchstone, spitting incidents in sports, fan-athlete confrontations, and the existential comedy of modern American sports fandom.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. Nostalgia and the "Death of the Penny"

[03:39–05:51]

• Greg Cody discusses the demise of the U.S. penny on his own podcast, prompting a surprisingly emotional response (“the death of the U.S. petty...the U.S. penny,” [03:39]).
• Mike Ryan reflects fondly:

  “The penny is one of the foundations of Americana. I used to collect pennies...that was a big part of growing up to me, was the scent.” ([04:01])

• The group banters about how the penny now costs more to mint than its face value ([03:57]) and laments its fading relevance in modern society.
• Mike complains that nobody carries coins anymore:

  “Everybody used to have a load in their pants...now nobody carries a coin anymore.” ([04:45])

• Sentimental nostalgia is gently mocked with in-show teasing, including a “death of the penny” song teaser ([05:12–05:46]).

2. NFL Week & Betting Banter

[01:43–02:21, 05:51–07:59]

• The panel breaks down the upcoming NFL schedule (“Rams-Bucks...Chiefs in the hunt trying to save their season against the Colts,” [01:43]).
• Stugotz launches customary “Poll Question Roulette”:

  “Are you stunned that after next week the Dolphins will have the same number of wins as the Chiefs?” ([02:21])

• Trivial pursuits and betting insights intermix with comic observations, e.g., Mark Andrews’ enduring “tush push,” and Giants/Packers/“trick or treat” Jameis Winston.

3. Spitting Incidents and Respect in Sports

[08:27–13:54, 17:15–23:14]

• The crew unpacks a heated NFL moment: Jalen Ramsey versus Jamar Chase and the escalation after a spitting incident.
• Greg Cody, Tony, and Stugotz analyze recent precedent (the Jaylen Carter situation) and debate suspension policies.
• Stugotz argues the punishment should fit the severity:

  “If there's a loogie hanging from your face mask, the punishment needs to be worse.” ([17:30])

• The idea of escalation is central:

  “One of the things with punishment...is to avoid escalation. The malice at the palace comes to mind—throw a beer, escalation ensues.” (Stugotz, [11:03])

• Mike Ryan raises the philosophical line:

  “What if instead of spitting, I say something really disrespectful?” ([13:32])

• Consensus: spitting is the apex of disrespect, harder to police than words, and deserving of severe deterrence.

4. Fan-Athlete Confrontation & Social Media Era Disrespect

[24:16–41:58]

A. Draymond Green & The "Angel Reese" Heckle

• Draymond Green confronts a fan during a game, later explaining:

  “He just kept calling me a woman...then a woman's name. It was Angel Reese, because I kept missing shots and getting rebounds.” ([25:08–26:23])

• The crew pokes holes in Green’s explanation and reflects on “sticks and stones” adages’ limits.

B. Jimmy Butler vs. Gambler – When Fan Engagement Crosses the Line

[31:14–40:51]

• A now-viral street encounter surfaces: A gambler heckles Jimmy Butler about blowing his wager (“Green apple looking at stupid big ass Tims...I put 3,000 to win 30. Why you have 30 perks, Jimmy Butler? You work for Vegas.” [31:14]).
• The group debates the boundaries:
  • Is it playful or threatening? Does the gambling era embolden toxic entitlement?
  • Mike Ryan:

    “Athletes are living with the gambling and fantasy element more, but it’s dehumanizing in a way that’s super strange.” ([35:34])

  • Stugotz, indignant:

    “Don’t talk to Jimmy Butler that way. If you don’t know Jimmy Butler and you’re being ‘playful,’ that’s not for you to decide.” ([40:51])

  • Ryen Russillo:

    "This is pretty cut and dry. Like, this should not be happening." ([37:35])

• The general consensus: the onus is unfairly on athletes to show restraint—any retaliation risks “escalation” and career fallout.

5. The Role of Practice & Preparedness: Shadur Sanders Debate

[19:46–23:14]

• A deep dive into rookie backup QBs—Shadur Sanders’s lack of first-team reps and NFL teams’ approaches to developing young players.
• Tony presses:

  “Can you hype up the crowd when you’re running onto the field and then go 4 for 16 with an interception? That’s tough.” ([20:48])

• Dan Le Batard:

  “The only reason we ever talk about a third-string fifth-rounder is if he’s Shadur Sanders.” ([19:46])

• The panel scrutinizes the logic and fairness of coaching strategies with backups who are “one snap away.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mike Ryan, penny nostalgia:

  "The penny is one of the foundations of Americana. I used to collect pennies...that was a big part of growing up to me, was the scent." ([04:01])

• Stugotz, on punishments:

  "The punishment should be worse if the expectoration is worse. If there’s a loogie hanging from your face mask...the punishment needs to be worse than that." ([17:27])

• Jalen Ramsey, on being spit on:

  “He spit on me. So it’s up. Football after that. Respectfully.” ([09:39])

• Jamar Chase, denying:

  "I spit on nobody." ([10:20])

• Chris Cody (on line-crossing by fans):

  "Like, if 10 is, I'm legitimately fearful that I'm about to be attacked, this is like a six or seven." ([36:45])

• Stugotz, boundaries:

  "It's not a fine line. Don't talk to people that way. That's not a fine line." ([37:30])

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Segment Timestamps

• [03:39–05:51] – The Foundation of Americana: Penny talk and emotional farewells
• [08:27–13:54; 17:15–23:14] – Spitting, sports disrespect, suspensions, and escalation
• [24:16–27:33] – Draymond Green's encounter and "Angel Reese" heckle
• [31:14–40:51] – Jimmy Butler vs. gambler: Fan behavior, the athlete's burden, and the new normal
• [19:46–23:14] – Shadur Sanders: Rookies, reps, and the NFL’s backup plan
• [07:03–08:27 & scattered] – NFL musings: Giants, Packers, fantasy football, injury breakdowns

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Tone and Style

Breezy, quick-witted, and irreverently insightful, the show repeatedly returns to themes of respect, nostalgia, and the absurdities of modern sports culture. Segments oscillate between playful teasing, heated arguments, and genuinely thoughtful reflections, cemented by classic “Le Batard Show” humor.

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For New Listeners

This episode offers a quintessential sampler of the Le Batard universe—where sports analysis is inseparable from social commentary and high-level nonsense. If you want pointed commentary on evolving fan/player relationships, sportsmanship, and Americana (from pennies to pro athletes), this is your episode.

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Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

The poll plays a couple of things. Are you stunned that after next week the Dolphins will have the same number of wins as the Chiefs? And does it hurt more if at the end you lose to a guy named Lutz at Lebatard show. Also funny. Yesterday was on a tush push. Mark Andrews, the immortal, lumbering 35 yards in the open field. He can scoot. He can still scoot.

[Greg Cody]

He can move.

[Stugats]

I expect at this age, with the beating he's taken as the Ravens career leader in touchdowns. For body parts to fall off and WD40 to be required because things are creaking, but not tush push fake. And he just lumbered 35 yards with the ball. I want to get to a couple of things here. The Jalen Ramsey, Jamar Chase spitting incident. Draymond Green being Draymond Green. A gambler confronting Jimmy Butler. But before we get to any of those things, the Greg Cody show, featuring Greg Cody, is now out. And in it, he laments, and Chris told me he got sad in a way that made him emotional. He laments the death of the U.S. petty. The U.S. penny.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

It proves he'll get emotional about anything because he had Yeti make us. Like, I don't know if Yeti did.

[Stugats]

It on his own.

[Chris Cody]

I don't know how it came to be, but Yeti made a song about the death of the penny. And you. If you watch our YouTube channel, you legitimately see my dad getting emotional.

[Stugats]

The penny take the penny costs more to make than it is worth.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Almost four times as much.

[Tony]

Why is that emotional for you?

[Mike Ryan]

Because the penny is. Is one of the foundations of Americana. I used to collect pennies when I grew up in one of those little blue folders with, you know, you'd slide a penny into the hole. And that was a big part of growing up to me was the scent.

[Chris Cody]

There's a little nugget here, though, that you're leaving out. It's not. You can still use the penny.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, it's in circulation.

[Chris Cody]

They're just not making new ones. Like, you could still pay for stuff with a penny. So it's like nothing is really changing.

[Stugats]

Like newspapers.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the death of the penny, though. It's the death of the penny.

[Chris Cody]

I can still go to McDonald's and with 100 pennies, spend a dollar.

[Mike Ryan]

Fine. Do you have 100 pennies? No, because nobody collects pennies anymore.

[Stugats]

All right, put it on. The poll at Lebatard show is the pen. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Look, the whole idea of nobody carries change anymore, you know, walking around. Everybody used to have a load in their pants. You know, you'd reach in your right pocket, you reach in your right pocket, there'd be a handful of coins. And now nobody carries a coin anymore.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know what you did and the.

[Mike Ryan]

Penny is part of that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you know what you did?

[Mike Ryan]

What's that?

[Dan LeBatard]

The load in the pants.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Correct.

[Ryen Russillo]

Proud.

[Chris Cody]

Do you guys want to celebrate the penny and song?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, I sure do.

[Stugats]

Do we?

[Dan LeBatard]

How.

[Stugats]

How do you feel about Yeti's song? Oh, that's the face that you're making. All right, let's hear a song on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody. Let's hear a song that Yeti made about the death of the penny. The penny, of course. One of the foundations of Americana. Thank you. All right, that's enough.

[Mike Ryan]

What?

[Stugats]

You want to hear the song? It's on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a good tease by you as.

[Chris Cody]

Long as this intro.

[Ryen Russillo]

I do like that. R.

[Stugats]

All right, that's enough.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a great song. It's not a banger. Right. It's a sentimental song and appropriately so. Thank you.

[Stugats]

Yeti feeling me sounds like Fountains of Wayne to me. I will only talk about the Giants and Packers in this way because I thought Bart Scott had the best analysis before the game. Before the game I thought he had the best analysis and it ended up coming to fruition which was just, you know, with Jameis Winston. It's trick or treat now. It was. It was a couple of weeks after Halloween, but it's still. It was. It was still good analysis because it absolutely is with. Put it on the poll at Levittard show with Jameis Winston. Is it trick or treat? And that concludes our Giants coverage, Packers coverage for the day. And it don't make sense to say goodbye. But let's talk about this spitting incident from this Steelers game. And I wasn't aware of this till yesterday. I did not know that the Steelers had a 300 pound tight end named Darnell Washington. I thought that their tight ends were Friarmouth and John New Smith. Thank you. The former Dolphin.

[Greg Cody]

You never seen Washington dude.

[Dan LeBatard]

Once you see him once you are locked in. Yes, well, Aaron Rodgers is so locked in because he has eyes.

[Stugats]

He's got to be £300, right? He's not listed at £300, but he's got to be £300. That guy in the open field was just wrecking people.

[Dan LeBatard]

He reminds me a lot and probably Aaron of Jermichael Finley. Just a giant put together, cut out of stone type of dude.

[Greg Cody]

They got him at 6 7, 264, but that's.

[Dan LeBatard]

You want to talk about a load, Greg?

[Stugats]

That guy loading his pants.

[Mike Ryan]

Tell you what. Damn right. Jingle jangle, right?

[Stugats]

So Jalen Ramsey. Jalen Rams I don't think Jingle Jangle is the same kind of load.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's just dawned upon me that he doesn't understand what a load means.

[Mike Ryan]

We're talking about coins.

[Stugats]

Said he was doing a couple coins, but he was.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think so. Yeah, I think he was lying.

[Chris Cody]

Gaslighting.

[Stugats]

When you did load in the pants, we thought you knew what you were saying, but you were just saying change in the pants. But that's not what a load in the pants.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know about that jizz.

[Mike Ryan]

There's more definitions to what that means. What do you think I'm referring to a baby diaper?

[Stugats]

You know what? I'm not gonna allow Mike Ryan.

[Tony]

That was a scene, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

He's got a. He's got a minor penalty. 2 minutes for a contribution.

[Chris Cody]

This will work out with the green shirt.

[Stugats]

That's also a load of hands. Yeah, the green screen and the green shirt isn't gonna work. So you can go sit in there and make bad television like you made bad audio.

[Greg Cody]

He was right. It's right.

[Stugats]

It's unnecessary. I don't need uncouth was what it was. Yes. And I'll get to Shador Sanders in a second, but let's do. Do Jalen Ramsey and Jamar Chase. What's going on with spitting on people? Like, what is happening? And Jamar Chase just lied about it afterward. And what should the penalty for this be?

[Tony]

He's going to get suspended.

[Stugats]

You think he's going to lose an entire game?

[Tony]

Yeah, it already happened with homeboy from Jaylen Carter.

[Stugats]

Yeah, you so. But Jaylen Carter was suspended for the game that he was in. He was ejected for the one game. Right.

[Tony]

Like, wasn't he also suspended after that?

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[Chris Cody]

No. I believe he got. It was like, early in the game. I think he just.

[Tony]

It was before a single play.

[Ryen Russillo]

Right.

[Chris Cody]

So I think he just. That game was.

[Stugats]

That's what I think that got him suspended for the game. You think Jamar Chase is going to miss the next game? Yeah. What is happening with people spitting? What happened? So Jalen Ramsey punched him. Right. And then. And. And the referee. Did the referee see that Jalen Ramsey had been spit on?

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Tony]

He must not have.

[Chris Cody]

No. He get Jalen. The punch gets seen. Jalen gets kicked out. And then we, of course, see afterwards that it was all triggered by a.

[Greg Cody]

Spit, a big loogie that he said he didn't spit. You clearly see, like, a massive spit.

[Stugats]

Wad from flying through and hanging off of his face.

[Chris Cody]

We have the back and forth here. First, here's Jalen saying, he did spit.

[Stugats]

He spit on me. So it's up. Football after that. Respectfully.

[Greg Cody]

He added an important caveat.

[Stugats]

You know what? I think most people understand that, though. I think most people say, you know what? I'm with Jalen Ramsey on that. So it's up. I don't get football after that. Respectfully.

[Tony]

Which gets the point across better, the respectfully or the quite frankly?

[Stugats]

Well, the quite frankly before bleep you has a bit of song in it. It respectfully looks like he's just trying to dilute what he said before. I think that quite frankly builds up and then bleep you is the big puncture.

[Chris Cody]

Here's Jamar denying it, even though there's clear video evidence that he did spit.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just. You did not spit on him.

[Stugats]

That's what he's saying. I spit on nobody.

[Tony]

What a liar.

[Greg Cody]

Massive hawker.

[Mike Ryan]

Maybe.

[Chris Cody]

Maybe he was just talking crap and, like, spit out not that amount of crap. So enthusiastic about what he's saying.

[Stugats]

Okay, but you guys are telling me, and I have not seen video or photographic proof of this, you guys are telling me that something was hanging from Jalen Ramsey face mask. If that's the case, that's not spittle. Like, that's not that. That is from the throat. If it's something that's hanging, that's like. Like a. A fern that's hanging from the face mask.

[Ryen Russillo]

Look.

[Chris Cody]

Look how scary Mike looks right now.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow.

[Stugats]

That's too.

[Mike Ryan]

He's in a graveyard.

[Stugats]

It's too big of a disrespect. And I don't understand why it is that people continue to do this. And I wonder if the penalties need to be stiffer. Because if you don't want things to escalate. Right. Like, I think one of the things with punishments that is preventative is the consequences have to be to avoid escalation.

[Tony]

That's why he's going to get suspended.

[Stugats]

And when you have, like, let's say, whatever you believe to be the greatest escalations in sports history, the malice at the palace comes to mind. It starts with, you throw a beer on Ron Artest. That action creates the escalation that ends up in the biggest suspensions you see in the history of the sport. I think the suspensions have to be pretty stiff on this as a disrespect, because what can escalate after that can get a lot messier than what happened in that game. If your teammates see it, then I know that, Greg, after the game that was marred earlier this season by punches being thrown after the game that involved the Lions. You were lamenting and you were saying that that had to be big suspensions. If other players on your team see that you have a loogie hanging from your face mask and it's Jalen Ramsey who's feeling that level disrespect that he tells you after that he's like, football doesn't matter. My job doesn't matter. My paycheck doesn't matter. I'm on television doesn't matter. My team's in the playoff hunt doesn't matter. Aaron Rodgers last year doesn't matter. Nothing matters after that. Like, it's just not something that you can have in the sport. You can't abide that level of disrespect. Suspending someone a game is something that matters in that sport when there are 17 games. But I do wonder if there are enough deterrence. Given the amount of spitting we've seen recently. It seems like there's not enough of a deterrent.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I think it's going to depend on the NFL really rethinking its whole punishment system and adding this, because right now it's the physicality that they're after. In other words, if you spit at me and I punch you, I'm more liable for punishment than you are, even though you started it. And my other question is, the ref.

[Stugats]

Couldn'T have seen that there was spit though. That couldn't have been seen, otherwise they'd both be ejected.

[Mike Ryan]

But my other question is, what if the disrespect is spoken? What if instead of spitting at you, I say something that's really.

[Stugats]

I don't think there's. I don't think there's anything that you could say honestly, as disrespectful as that. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Is there anything anyone can say to you as disrespectful as spitting in your face?

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[Stugats]

Don LeBatard.

[Mike Ryan]

He called me on my own podcast. He called me full of shit, claiming that I'm faking interest in the solar eclipse.

[Chris Cody]

Well, you do do this. You love to just get excited about everything.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, junior stugats. I had to school you and explain.

[Tony]

To you he was gonna take you to a Gusta.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, when I was 17 years old, Alan Sherry and I used to haunt the Bueller Planetarium.

[Stugats]

This is the D? Ler show with his two gods.

[Greg Cody]

Clarification on the Jaylen Carter situation. So he was suspended in the game that he was in. I was. He kicked out. The NFL said, we're not going to suspend you for another following game after that.

[Tony]

So it was literally a whole game that he was kicked out.

[Greg Cody]

It was again one of the first plays of the game.

[Tony]

No, it was before the first play. It was after the kickoff.

[Stugats]

Yeah, it was on the field. Yeah. Dak Prescott had just come out. But I would say, honestly, I'm not kidding about this. I'm serious about what I'm about to say. The punishment should be worse if the expectoration is worse. If there's a loogie hanging from your face. Math. Like with Jalen Carter, there was some question about, like, did he, didn't he? We got to go to the video. But if there's a loogie hanging from your face mask, the punishment needs to be worse than that.

[Tony]

So do you just have to leave the loogie hanging on your face and run to the referee and say, see?

[Stugats]

Yes, yes.

[Mike Ryan]

It takes a skill to spit through a face mask, I would imagine, because you've got a bar here or a bar there. How do you have to raise your lips to, you know, guy who's never.

[Greg Cody]

Had his hand in the dirt? I don't like that. From Greg Cody. I don't like that.

[Mike Ryan]

Look, it's skillful though.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but you got to know, you got to put a helmet on, throw a hawker out there just like Dan last week. Not, not a fan of having his hand in the dirt. Greg Cody showing your ass right now.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, But I'm respecting the ability to spit through a face mask. I don't condone spitting, but I'm respecting the ability to accurately.

[Tony]

Sounds like you're not condemning it either, though.

[Chris Cody]

You ever spit on someone?

[Mike Ryan]

I have not. Nor would I.

[Chris Cody]

Me neither.

[Mike Ryan]

Nor would I. But if I do spit on someone, does it justify him punching me in the face? I don't think so.

[Tony]

Respectfully, you get a disease from being spit on.

[Mike Ryan]

You're thinking, five years ago, have you.

[Greg Cody]

Seen the spit offs that they have in like, in like the East?

[Tony]

They got rid of that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Respectfully, never forget, it's a big breakthrough five years ago to us.

[Stugats]

So five years ago, I really. Us. Just, just for the record, okay, I want you guys to now imagine Jalen Ramsey out for the rest of the season because of the disease that he got.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

From the mouth. From the mouth of. Of Jamar Chase.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, yeah. Pandemic.

[Stugats]

Respectfully.

[Mike Ryan]

You kidding me? You spit during the pandemic. They put a white suit on you. You couldn't even, you couldn't even see.

[Chris Cody]

Through coughing just now is back.

[Tony]

Jaylen Ramsey out two weeks. Spitting disease.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Stugats]

What is the disease you believe that people can get from spitting, just out of curiosity?

[Mike Ryan]

A spitosis.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right.

[Stugats]

Respectfully.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, they should both be gone, you ask me.

[Stugats]

Yeah, it's my mistake. I, I want to ask you guys this because I don't believe that there's any circumstance under which we're talking about the third string quarterback who's a fifth round pick on a terrible Browns team. Unless it's Shador Sanders. Like it's legitimately not in my lifetime. A story that I'm ever going to. Talked about a great deal on a Monday after the weekend's games. How bad and unprepared did the fifth round pick who's the third string quarterback for a truly terrible team? This is the only guy famous enough to have ever registered on anyone's conversation scale. He clearly wasn't ready. The Browns obviously knew he wasn't ready. He showed yesterday why it is that they thought he was not ready. And yet I believe a lot of people will still be talking even though he's an irrelevant person in the league.

[Tony]

Can you hype up the crowd when you're running onto the field and then go 4 for 16 with an interception? That's tough.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, you can.

[Stugats]

It is tough. I rethought my position from a month ago where I was arguing on behalf of the Lego helmets. Romeo Dobbs, when you drop the ball that much, you can't be wearing a Lego helmet. Like, you got to catch the ball if you're wearing the LEGO helmet. I'm fine with you running around wearing the Lego helmet and not dropping the ball, but if you're going to drop the ball and look ridiculous with the LEGO helmet, I'm going to, I'm going to be embarrassed on your behalf.

[Tony]

Am I supposed to believe. Because the big, the big story is that Shadur Sanders was completely unprepared and it's not his fault. It's Kevin Stefanski's fault because apparently he has not taken a single snap with the first team since preseason. How could that be true if he goes into this game as the backup? Not a single practice snap with the first team and he's the backup quarterback. I mean, is that. Is that even reasonable to believe?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, he was only the backup because Dylan Gabriel got a concussion.

[Chris Cody]

But wouldn't the backup. Wouldn't. Every week a backup gets some reps with first team.

[Tony]

He's literally a play away from playing.

[Stugats]

No, he's not here. He was the backup.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, he was a backup. Once they got rid of Joe Flacco, I think the argument for not giving Chador any reps as a. As a number two quarterback on the depth chart is they took another quarterback in this draft class that was higher. And that quarterback needs all the snaps that he can get with the first team. And clearly they've seen enough throughout their evaluation process that leads them to believe they have a better chance of winning with Dylan Gabriel than Shador. And so probably they decided no snaps for Shador, all the snaps for Dylan Gabriel.

[Tony]

I mean, I'm sure that's true, but like, when. And when the Dolphins threw Quinn Ewers in there a few weeks ago, like, no one was saying he hasn't had a single snap with the first team in practice since training camp. Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think anybody was making excuses for him at the time. And I imagine Quinn Ewers did get some first team snaps.

[Tony]

I would think so.

[Stugats]

But it's. But it's also not the same thing. Not the same situation. Tua doesn't need more practice snaps. Dylan Gabriel needs all of the practice snaps. He's not. He's not a veteran quarterback. So just to correct things, because it's important. Important that we get things right about all the Bears defenses. But also diseases spread through spitting. Aids. Not one of them.

[Ryen Russillo]

That's right.

[Stugats]

So just to be clear, who had.

[Tony]

That double check on that?

[Stugats]

It was just double checked. There aren't a lot of diseases that can be spread through.

[Ryen Russillo]

You can find out those, though, if you'd like.

[Mike Ryan]

No, but I said half jokingly, and it's true that during the height of the pandemic, if you sneezed in public, people looked at you. Crazy papola.

[Ad Read Voice]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Coughing was the real thing.

[Mike Ryan]

Coughing. I'm a professional cougher. I know that it was tough going through the pandemic. Coughing.

[Stugats]

Believe me, before we get to Bill Belichick being cold in the handshake with Wake Forest after the game, after losing to Wake Forest, I do want to get to this Draymond Green story because we were just talking about Jamar Chase up and down, lying about spitting on a face mask where there was clearly a loogie. Draymond Green is also not telling the Truth about whatever it is. What are the details? I need to know about what he was reacting to in regards to Angel Reese.

[Tony]

Yeah. So yesterday, the warriors were playing at the Pelicans. Boy, Pelicans are terrible. Dan. The warriors were at the Pelicans. Zion never plays, Dan. And they fired Willie Green, their coach. So the Warriors. That's a rundown. Everything you need to know about the Pelicans.

[Greg Cody]

Things are going well in New Orleans.

[Dan LeBatard]

Keep interrupting yourself. I like that as a character.

[Mike Ryan]

A lot of parentheticals there.

[Greg Cody]

You know about them.

[Tony]

So Draymond Green, in the middle of the game, walked over to, you know, behind the basket. He confronted a fan. And by the way, that fan is tall. They were nose to nose, all right? And Draymond Green and the fan are having a back and forth, and then eventually they get split up, and the fan got warned, you know, don't do it again. And so turned out what happened was Draymond Green was then asked after the game about the incident. I believe we have the video. So here was Draymond Green's explanation as to what made him confront the fan.

[Dan LeBatard]

What happened in the second quarter with that fan?

[Stugats]

He just kept calling me a woman. It was a good joke at first, but you can't keep calling me a woman. You know, he got quiet, though, so it's fine. Yeah, he just kept calling me a woman's name. I am not official.

[Greg Cody]

Came over.

[Stugats]

I mean, were you guys discussing. Yeah, he just told me. I got it.

[Mike Ryan]

I've heard him over and over and over again.

[Stugats]

Don't get yourself in no trouble. I'll take care of it. Accordingly.

[Greg Cody]

Was great.

[Tony]

Okay, so first, Draymond Green is saying that the fan kept calling him a woman, which you would think means one thing. Then eventually he was called a woman's name. Well, as it turns out, the fan was calling him Angel Reese because he kept missing shots and getting rebounds, and that's all he could do. He keeps missing layups. Being called Angel Reese and being called a woman are not the same thing. Which is why Draymond Green never actually said what he was being called, because it's stupid.

[Stugats]

He was offended because he kept missing shots and grabbing his own rebounds. The way that rebounds, Dan, and the way that Angel Reese does. So. So the fan was complimenting him by calling great player angel. Great offensive rebounder is what the. What the fan meant in that situation.

[Tony]

He's being called a woman.

[Mike Ryan]

Thank you. Well, come on. You know, there used to be a saying, I don't want to be the. The Old.

[Chris Cody]

All right. I don't like where this.

[Stugats]

We don't want it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, I like where this is heading. No, this is not something he'll regret. Come on.

[Mike Ryan]

The saying used to be, sticks and stones break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

[Ryen Russillo]

That's a good one.

[Mike Ryan]

Actually calls me a woman or called me Angel. Reese, what am I supposed to do? Get all macho and punch the guy? Come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

I need your support.

[Mike Ryan]

Take an insult like a man and move on. You know?

[Chris Cody]

You know, the actual saying.

[Stugats]

Sticks and stone like a man, you.

[Mike Ryan]

Know, or like a woman, as the case may be.

[Chris Cody]

Say the saying that you're talking about.

[Mike Ryan]

What saying? What do you mean? Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

[Chris Cody]

I thought maybe you'd screw it up after saying it's a great saying.

[Mike Ryan]

I grew up with that saying. We used to always say it.

[Stugats]

Back when the penny mattered.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, the US Sent. Bring it back, Jack. Let's go.

[Stugats]

He was not the only warrior. Who was. I'm not gonna say. Was this a confrontation? Was Jimmy Butler. What happened here? What happened with Jimmy Butler and a gambler? Before we get to this Bill bel check moment, Jimmy Butler. The warriors beat the spurs twice with Steph Curry going crazy. With Steph Curry so good right now.

[Greg Cody]

I think he might be my MVP right now.

[Stugats]

Really?

[Greg Cody]

Might be my MVP of the day.

[Stugats]

Really? Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

He's playing that well right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's wearing Nikes.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Wearing Kobe's. He's a sneaker free agent, by the way.

[Ryen Russillo]

Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Ryen Russillo]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Stugats]

Don LeBatard.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats don't do it.

[Stugats]

This is the Don lebatar show with the Stugats. Did you guys hear what Greg Cody said? When MVP talk came up, he just muttered under his breath, Norman Powell. He's right. All right, let's. Let's hear and watch Jimmy Butler in the street having an interaction with a gambler. I'm sure athletes love being in the street and hearing from gamblers or fantasy players on how they ruined everything.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Green Apple looking at stupid big ass Tim's on Jimmy Butler. Man, they don't give a you in that city.

[Mike Ryan]

Look at him.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Mo P looking ass. Yes, bro. I put 3,000 and win 30. Why do we have 30 perks? Jimmy Butler?

[Ryen Russillo]

Why?

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

You did not have a 30 perks. You were supposed to go over. You work for Vegas. You work for Vegas.

[Chris Cody]

Seems reckless.

[Tony]

It's a fair question.

[Stugats]

No, it is.

[Greg Cody]

Green Apple Looking ass a good one.

[Tony]

We're not Timberlands.

[Stugats]

You can't talk to people like that, man. What. What do you. Who do you think you are?

[Dan LeBatard]

Keep doing the impression. I like it. Who do you keep using that voice.

[Stugats]

That's great. For those of you who cannot see this, Jimmy Butler is wearing. What is the color? Somewhere between yellow and lime. Is it green apple?

[Dan LeBatard]

Like a pale green Garish.

[Stugats]

It's not. It's very colorful, I guess.

[Ryen Russillo]

Yeah, it's a highlighter. It's a yellow highlighter after you've gone over black pen just one time. So it's just slightly darker than the yellow highlighter.

[Mike Ryan]

It's got a little vomit quality to it.

[Tony]

I like how Jimmy. He wasn't necessarily offended by the things the guy was saying.

[Ryen Russillo]

Saying.

[Tony]

It's that. Can't you see I'm on the phone?

[Stugats]

This is admirable restraint from Jimmy Butler. You really shouldn't talk to people like this 100%. You should not do this. Play the whole thing.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Jimmy Butler, man. They don't give a you in that city. Look at him. Mo Prain. Look at that. Yes, bro. I put 3,000 to win 30. Why you have 30 perks? Jimmy Butler? Why you did not have a 30 perks? You was supposed to go over. You work for Vegas. You work for Vegas.

[Tony]

It's crazy.

[Stugats]

Would you guys. Funny. Would you guys. If Jimmy Butler reached into that man's car and slapped him? If just. If Jimmy Butler reached in the car and slapped him. Most athletes know better than this. Know they're being provoked. Know that a lawsuit can come from the video. Know that this person can be videoing them in order to get the provocation response. But if he had slapped him, would you guys have the similar reaction that you did to Jalen Ramsey when he's like. Yeah, I understand why it is that he. What? Why it is that he punched Jamar Chase?

[Mike Ryan]

I think it relates to our earlier conversation. If Jimmy Butler reaches through that window and punches that man, Jimmy Butler gets suspended by the NBA.

[Chris Cody]

This feels a little more playful than a spit.

[Ryen Russillo]

That guy sucks.

[Stugats]

No, you can't. That feels playful to you when he calls him over ass like that? That feels playful to you because you guys cut that off on the second part. Like the. That's the one that was like that when. When it. Once it got to there one more time. Because if someone talks to me this way, I'm not taking it as playful. I'm not receiving this. What are you doing? I'm not receiving. I'm not receiving. This as playful is what I'm telling you.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Green Apple looking at stupid big ass Tim's on Jimmy Butler, man. They don't give a. You're in that city.

[Mike Ryan]

Look at him.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Mo pain. Look at that. Yes, bro. I put 3,000 and win 30. Why you have 30 perks, Jimmy Butler? Why you did not have a 30 perks? You were supposed to go over. You work for Vegas. You worked for Vegas. Green Apple looking at.

[Tony]

Without the profanity. Why didn't you go over 30 points? Fair question.

[Stugats]

Well, the way he said points was funny.

[Mike Ryan]

Perts.

[Stugats]

Pert.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Mo Pain looking ass. Yes.

[Greg Cody]

Bad bet, though. Three grand on Jimmy over 30.

[Stugats]

I don't like that.

[Mike Ryan]

Isn't over 30 always a dangerous bet?

[Tony]

Maybe he may be getting off.

[Stugats]

Not. Not in today's NBA market. It'll give you 47 every night.

[Greg Cody]

It's good.

[Chris Cody]

It was. Yeah. To win 30, he said so. It must have paid really good.

[Ryen Russillo]

You work for Vegas is crazy.

[Stugats]

What is propane looking ass like? What?

[Greg Cody]

You know when you see it?

[Stugats]

What? No, I don't know. Is that. Is he alleging that the color of the outfit is propane colored?

[Ad Read Voice]

Play it again.

[Stugats]

Play it again.

[Greg Cody]

See, it's not propane.

[Chris Cody]

The text said propane. I thought it was propane too. It's something else. Moped looking one more time.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Mopane.

[Mike Ryan]

Look at that moped.

[Dan LeBatard]

Totally comfortable with this. Yes.

[Tony]

Jimmy doesn't seem very amused.

[Dan LeBatard]

Nor should he be.

[Stugats]

He just was on the phone.

[Mike Ryan]

I think he handled it admirably. See, I credit Jimmy Butler.

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Stugats]

For sure. These guys are used to it. But it is dehumanizing in a way that's super strange. Like, I don't know how it is or why it is. Well, I kind of do, actually. Why it is people are that comfortable being that disrespectful.

[Mike Ryan]

I think athletes are more and more comfortable with living with the gambling and the fantasy element of what they do for a living. Quick example. AJ Brown, who spent the entire season complaining that the Eagles aren't throwing them the ball in the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Enough.

[Mike Ryan]

Was quoted the other day as saying, I wouldn't have me on my fantasy team. I'm not getting the ball enough. Nobody should have me on their fantasy team.

[Dan LeBatard]

If I could be for real for a moment. That's a scary situation. If you're Jimmy Butler walking down the street. A dude pulls up on you in the car. You don't know what he has.

[Chris Cody]

I would argue that this guy did not cross the line. But I'm with you that you don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

Know there is nobody that is comfortable with anybody driving up to them, screaming at them. You don't know what is happening.

[Stugats]

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. The only reason you don't think he crossed the line is because you, too, think that you're entitled with gambling fantasy or whatever to be mad at an athlete because he cost you money. That crosses the line like that. Absolutely.

[Chris Cody]

You don't talk for me like if the scale is zero. Like, if 10 is. I'm legitimately fearful that I'm about to be attacked. If that's a 10, to me, this is like a six or seven.

[Stugats]

You can't call him a ass, and you can't do that, like, harassed in public.

[Chris Cody]

But he's saying it. Play like, I get it. Like. But he's not. I don't hear this guy's tone and being like, oh, my God, this guy's. I'm with you. I don't know where the line is either. I'm not saying, let's have.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's have a car roll up on you and say, hey, Chris Cody, in that tone like, you look, I've been.

[Chris Cody]

Heckled walking to my car before.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's not. Like, I don't think, like, you cost me money.

[Ryen Russillo]

You work for Vegas.

[Dan LeBatard]

Calling him a B word, like, he's. I mean, you don't know what he's asked.

[Mike Ryan]

I think it's a fine line here. I think that Jimmy Butler absolutely is being insulted. I don't think he's being threatened.

[Stugats]

It seems like it's not a fine line. Don't talk to people that way. That's not a fine line.

[Ryen Russillo]

This is pretty cut and dry. Like, this should not be happening. No, I'm not saying that you should be, like, cowering in fear. But I also think that, like, to have someone drive up, roll down their window and start yelling at you, no matter what the context, by the way, on the phone. Right? So he doesn't know at first what this guy is yelling at.

[Mike Ryan]

Him.

[Dan LeBatard]

Him.

[Ryen Russillo]

That's not. And by the way, even given what he is yelling at him, not. Okay, you should not be approaching people saying, you work for Vegas. That's not how this works.

[Tony]

The York for Vegas was the least.

[Stugats]

Offensive thing he's ever done around.

[Ryen Russillo]

It's the.

[Chris Cody]

It's like he's. He's being playful. Like, there's no point there where Jimmy thinks this guy's getting out and I'm with you.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's worse.

[Ryen Russillo]

That's why this.

[Chris Cody]

I'm with you. That this is Not a good thing.

[Mike Ryan]

Thing.

[Chris Cody]

Because someone might go past the line. I think that this guy was like, close to the line, but on, like, the playful side. But I'm with you. That guys. I don't know.

[Stugats]

He's criticizing both his appearance, his choice in shoes, a funny joke. Accusing him of fixing games and calling him a ass. Where do you think the line is?

[Mike Ryan]

I think the line is getting out of the car and being physically threatening. Guys, guys.

[Greg Cody]

He started with green apple. Looking at it. We're fine, guys. We're fine. You guys are sensitive on this.

[Chris Cody]

It could have escalated. And it is a slippery looking ass.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wait, is this in San Francisco?

[Greg Cody]

Fentanyl capital of the world.

[Stugats]

Not big Tim's. It was stupid ass Tims.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was big stupid ass Tims.

[Ad Read Voice]

Funny.

[Chris Cody]

Which is a funny burn.

[Ryen Russillo]

I can't believe we're debating it.

[Tony]

Were they big stupid ass Tims?

[Ad Read Voice]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Did he look like a green eye apple propane tank?

[Dan LeBatard]

I thought Jimmy handled that exceptionally well.

[Ryen Russillo]

Perfectly.

[Mike Ryan]

Me too.

[Stugats]

You guys have. You guys have a different.

[Chris Cody]

So you think that I should be arrested? To me, it's just like.

[Stugats]

Yes, yes. Shot in the street. Yes. That's what I think.

[Chris Cody]

You literally just said that. He went way past the line.

[Stugats]

Chris.

[Tony]

Okay, like arrested.

[Stugats]

Chris. Arrested. Like there. So what's that?

[Tony]

Crime.

[Chris Cody]

What do.

[Stugats]

There are no detours. Wait a minute. So your line is crime, commit a crime against. No.

[Chris Cody]

You guys are the ones freaking out over this. And I'm asking you, like, what should they call the cops? Like, what I'm doing.

[Stugats]

Not freaking out. I'm saying that's wildly disrespectful to do to somebody you don't know. It's disrespectful.

[Mike Ryan]

What should Jimmy Butler have done? What would you.

[Ad Read Voice]

What he did.

[Ryen Russillo]

Exactly what he did.

[Stugats]

But that's. That's calling on the athlete to show vastly better behavior as the victim of this than it is of the fan. Which I'm not surprised when I say, oh, I'm not surprised why this happens. Yes. More and more because you're in fantasy leagues with these players. Players. And because they cost you money. More and more fans, the customer feels more and more entitled to dehumanize the athlete. But that is not a person you talk to that way. You heard Draymond Green say while he was talking, you heard him say it was fine. I handled it. As soon as I confronted him face to face, that stopped. Everything stopped. Because that's not something that you do to Jimmy Butler. Unless you're trying to provoke some sort of Response if Jimmy Butler does slap you in the face, you were looking for it by talking to him that way.

[Mike Ryan]

Right, but who gets in trouble? Jimmy Butler.

[Stugats]

That's correct. But who got in trouble in the Jalen Ramsey thing? He was disrespected. And then Jalen Ramsey got in trouble. Like that's. But, but the better behavior is required of the athlete in that spot because I assure you the conversation. If we had video of Jimmy Butler slapping that guy or worse, just putting his fist repeatedly in the car, Jimmy Butler would be the one that's in trouble there. When the thing that happened was the disrespect escalated to that point and I'd be sitting there saying, you know what? I don't blame Jimmy Butler for doing that. Don't, don't talk to Jimmy Butler that way. If you don't know Jimmy Butler and he doesn't know, you're being playful.

[Greg Cody]

And also the responsibility is on the athlete. They know they have more to lose than a guy who's gonna pull up on the street and make a joke about you looking like a green apple wearing stupid ass tims like you know that going into it, hey, I make millions of a year this like I can't do anything.

[Mike Ryan]

If Jimmy Butler leans into that car window and starts yelling back at that guy. The escalation is on Jimmy Butler. He's the athlete who needs to take the high road there. I give him all the credit in the world for the way he handled that Butler.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Why you did not have a 30 per. You were supposed to go over. You worked for Vegas. You worked for Vegas.

[Stugats]

We've got breaking news here with the Atlanta Falcons. Michael Penic's potential season ending knee injury. So it looks like Kirk Cousins will probably be going the rest of the way there. I'm assuming that Aaron Rodgers wrist is broken. I don't know if Aaron Rodgers can play or would want to play with a broken left wrist. Like they. If it's not his. Does anyone have any earthly idea, any earthly idea whether or not he could play with a broken left wrist? Given that it's not really. I don't know whether you can hold a snap. Can you even take a snap without fumbling? If you've got a bro, if you got a cast on your left, on your left hand, I would think that's.

[Mike Ryan]

Going to remove him from the game. Generally when a, when a right handed quarterback has the opposite arm injury, whether it's a shoulder or anything like that, it, they're out.

[Tony]

I mean it wouldn't be A cast tape it up. I. I think he probably plays.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, but you got to take a snap though.

[Tony]

Aaron, shotgun. It's not like the ball is going to be, you know, pushed into your hands like.

[Greg Cody]

But he's not in shotgun all the time though. Like he's got to go under center with their offense. He's got to go under center. But the thing is it's not even that. It's just the act of football. All right, I'm fine. I throw the ball, I get tackled and then I land on my wrist. Like the way I broke it the first time.

[Chris Cody]

It's just going to us trying to break down. This wrist injury is one of like this last 30 seconds.

[Tony]

I did good analysis.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, Greg like that Zaslow. So did body 90 year old man and a guy that imaginary football started.

[Chris Cody]

Talking about the wrist. Tony like mimed a hut to like. All right, let me text.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, because I was thinking, all right, you go right as a right handed quarterback.

[Stugats]

You right over left, right here we are the worst that I don't know.

[Dan LeBatard]

Damn. I don't know. Boom, I'm up here. I don't know. It seems like it hurts.

[Stugats]

Neither do I. But do you know how hard this.

[Greg Cody]

Guy'S a green apple looking at?

[Stugats]

What are you talking about that says.

[Chris Cody]

He might put play.

[Stugats]

Do you know how hard it is for us as a show to be worse than we were with Chris Cody saying No, I don't think that's close to the line.

[Chris Cody]

You guys are okay.

[Stugats]

I mean you.

[Chris Cody]

I think you guys are off on this one.

[Stugats]

This guy getting heckled, by the way.

[Greg Cody]

Come on, give me a break.

[Mike Ryan]

Multiple times and stones, baby.

[Jimmy Butler Fan]

Yo, chicken thigh. Complete fraud across the streets.

[Chris Cody]

Carl's seen it.

[Stugats]

They call you a big faced red faced bleach ass mother. Big ass tits. I like it.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugats]

Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I do know know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out especially for one of our great partners.

[Stugats]

Sweet, delicious Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Stugats]

Cuervo.

[Dan LeBatard]

So enjoy the tequila that started it all. Cuervo, Cuervo. The tequila that invented tequila. Proximo, Cuervo.com, please drink responsibly.

[Stugats]

Cuervo.