Hour 1: The Gino Torretta Monologue (feat. Gino Torretta & Jessica Smetana)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: The Gino Torretta Monologue

Date: January 14, 2026
Guests: Gino Torretta, Jessica Smetana
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant and comedic episode from The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, the crew delivers a blend of sports analysis, Miami-centric nostalgia, and personality-driven banter. The centerpiece is a visit from Miami Hurricane legend and Heisman Trophy winner Gino Torretta, whose signature delivery is enlisted for a boisterous, tongue-in-cheek “threat” against Indiana ahead of a major college football showdown. The hour is rounded out with playful personal revelations from Jessica Smetana, deep Miami sports nostalgia, and timely NBA and NFL discussions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Drama: Giannis Antetokounmpo and The Bucks

(00:44 – 03:51)

• Stugotz highlights the Bucks’ ongoing struggles, listing losses and public player frustrations:
  • “Bucks lost to the Kings at home… two losses to the Wizards, a 39 point loss to the Nets… disintegrated there. Giannis is available. He’s booing his own fans.” (Stugotz, 01:57)
• Panel discusses Giannis booing his own fans after trailing the Timberwolves severely, questioning whether the fan reaction was warranted and parsing Giannis’ motives and approach.
  • “Does he think it’s inappropriate for the fan to boo the home team that’s down by 30?” (Jeremy Fowler, 03:13)
  • “Well, he reacted to it… it was a poor showing.” (Chris, 03:25)
• Light-hearted banter about misquoting teams and reflexive correction on air.

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2. Nostalgia Break: Greg Cody's ‘Artifacts’

(04:07 – 08:15)

• Greg Cody is asked to bring in sports-related artifacts from his garage, prompting a comedic unwrapping of memorabilia.
  • “He has fished something out of his garage. I believe they are the Dead Sea Scrolls.” (Stugotz, 04:09)
• Artifacts include:
  • 1967 Dolphins media guide
  • First known photo of Greg as a teenage reporter
  • Ancient, coffee-stained “Certificate of Appreciation” for being commissioner of his childhood football league (PFPI)
• Panel playfully accuses Greg of self-congratulation:
  • “You made that for yourself?” (Stugotz, 07:22)
  • “I refer to it as the Magna Carta.” (Greg Cody, 06:16)
• Tales of the “rat phase” and nostalgia for lost South Florida sports traditions.

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3. LeBron’s Leverage and Rich Paul’s Podcasting

(13:05 – 15:49)

• Discussion turns to Rich Paul (LeBron’s agent) and Max Kellerman’s new podcast, and the implication of agents publicizing potential trade targets:
  • “Rich Paul as the agent for LeBron has an uncommon amount of power and he’s just sitting there on a podcast pissing off Laker management.” (Dan Le Batard, 13:05)
• Jeremy Fowler highlights the problematic optic of agents discussing the fate of players who aren’t their clients, sparking side conversations about the blurred boundaries between player, agent, and team management in today’s NBA.

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4. Gino Torretta Joins: Hurricanes Nostalgia & The Monologue

(17:30 – 28:38)

a. Meet Gino Torretta

• Gino reflects on being a Miami football legend, where his Heisman is kept (“On the bookcase at home.” – 18:04), and being sporadically pulled into show antics when Dan is out.

b. The “Threat to Indiana” Monologue

• The crew prompts Gino to dramatically read a thread originally written by Mike Ryan, meant to “intimidate Indiana” before a major college football game.
  • Gino delivers in full Hurricane passion:

    “You haven’t been tested. Our minds, bodies, and spirits have been in hell since Halloween. You’re walking into an asylum. The same folks picking you have been pouring dirt on our grave for two and a half months—or 20-some years. We’re still standing. We’re forged in and fire, been fighting for our lives longer than you’ve mattered. See you in a week. Spot the goddamn ball.” (Gino Torretta, 19:53 – 20:16)

  • Immediate panel reaction:
    • “That’s what I’m talking about.” (Zaslo, 20:16)
    • “It carries a lot more weight when it’s a Heisman Trophy winner saying it.” (Dan Le Batard, 20:20)

c. Ticket Mania & Inside College Football

• Gino recounts being inundated by ticket requests for the big game (“Calls from people I haven’t seen or heard from in 35 years.” – 20:42).
• Discusses the challenge of alumni ticket access, credentialing, and the alumni hierarchy—even among legends.

d. Game Analysis: Miami vs. Indiana

• Gino breaks down Miami’s team strengths, the unpredictability and improvement of Indiana quarterback Mendoza, and weighs in on the matchup’s “emotion vs. analysis.”
  • “I think there are some guys on Miami’s team that remind me of guys I played with. I think Fletcher is a guy—just give me the damn ball. I’m not going to let us lose. I think Malachi is the same way.” (Gino Torretta, 23:19)
  • “Indiana may not have the superstar power…but they play arguably the best team football of anybody in college football.” (23:38)
• On Indiana’s season: “If they win this game, they will have to be considered one of the best teams of all time.” (Stugotz, 24:09)

e. Miami’s Offensive Line & Leadership

• Gino marvels at Miami’s massive and effective offensive line, comparing player size to NFL legends, and discusses rule changes like the “push the pile.”
  • “If you walk next to [Markel Bell] it’s like a shadow.” (Gino Torretta, 27:40)

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5. Jessica Smetana Segment: Steelers Exit, Personal Revelations, and CFB Preview

(32:26 – 41:56)

a. Personal (and Hilariously Embarrassing) Moment

• The crew plays an audio clip of Jessica snoring during a Bears game; she laughs it off, turning it to a self-deprecating bit about her “loud” sneezing and general disarray.
  • “He said, ‘are you in a good mood right now?’…he pulled up his voice recordings and played that for me. I still think it may have been the dog.” (Jessica Smetana, 34:32)

b. Steelers’ Coaching Transition: Mike Tomlin

• Jessica addresses the end of the Mike Tomlin Steelers era and her mixed feelings about the coach stepping down.
  • “I think it kind of feels like it was time. Like, 19 years is a really long time…in the big picture, I think Hall of Fame head coach that won a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh, that had a record of winning, not losing seasons, winning seasons that I don’t think anyone’s ever going to break.” (Jessica Smetana, 36:07, 38:06)
• Greg Cody posits on Tomlin’s Hall of Fame credentials. Jessica strongly advocates for Tomlin’s induction (“That’s a straw man argument. No one said every coach that wins a Super Bowl makes the Hall of Fame…We’re talking about one specific coach.” – 38:52).

c. Antonio Brown & Hall of Fame Debate

• The panel briefly debates Antonio Brown’s Hall credentials, separating stats from off-field reputation.

d. CFB Title Game Preview (Miami vs. Indiana)

• Jessica doesn’t have a strong rooting interest but predicts a closer contest than expected.
  • “I think it’s going to be a better game than people are giving it credit for. Mendoza has obviously been really excellent. I think if Indiana plays their A plus game they’re probably going to win the game, but I think it’s more of a game than maybe the spread is giving it credit for.” (Jessica Smetana, 41:24)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Bucks’ woes:
  “The Bucks lost to the Kings at home…two losses to the Wizards, a 39 point loss to the Nets…disintegrated there. Giannis is available. He’s booing his own fans.”

  • Stugotz, 01:57

• On bringing in old sports memorabilia:
  “He has fished something out of his garage…I believe they are the Dead Sea Scrolls.”

  • Stugotz, 04:09

• Gino Torretta’s monologue (spotlighting Miami’s fire):
  “You haven’t been tested. Our minds, bodies, and spirits have been in hell since Halloween. You’re walking into an asylum. The same folks picking you have been pouring dirt on our grave for two and a half months—or 20-some years. We’re still standing. We’re forged in and fire, been fighting for our lives longer than you’ve mattered. See you in a week. Spot the goddamn ball.”

  • Gino Torretta, 19:53 – 20:16

• Jessica on snoring audio betrayal:
  “He said, ‘are you in a good mood right now?’…he pulled up his voice recordings and played that for me. I still think it may have been the dog.”

  • Jessica, 34:32

• Tomlin’s legacy according to Jessica:
  “Hall of Fame head coach that won a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh, that had a record of winning, not losing seasons, winning seasons that I don’t think anyone’s ever going to break.”

  • Jessica, 38:06

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Segment Timeline

• 00:44 – 03:51: Bucks’ struggles & NBA discussion
• 04:07 – 08:15: Greg Cody’s garage treasures
• 13:05 – 15:49: LeBron, Rich Paul, and NBA agent drama
• 17:30 – 28:38: Gino Torretta’s Miami monologue, college football analysis, and legendary anecdotes
• 32:26 – 38:52: Jessica Smetana on personal moments, Steelers and Tomlin legacy
• 41:11 – 41:56: Jessica’s CFB title game preview and closing banter

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Tone & Style

• Fast-paced, energetic, and irreverent
• Signature Miami flavor and inside jokes
• Frequent comic detours, “roasting” among friends
• Genuine sports insights, but always filtered through humor and character

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Summary Verdict

This episode is a quintessential blend of Le Batard show DNA: over-the-top Miami pride, playful sports debate, and comedic personality showcases. The hour pivots easily from bashing NBA dysfunction to reliving Hurricanes glory, taking college football seriously (until it doesn’t), and incorporating the panel’s personal quirks into the sports conversation. Gino Torretta’s mock-motivational monologue is a highlight, and Jessica Smetana’s honest, hilarious storytelling adds warmth and relatability to the CFB preview.

Transcript

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[Dan Lebatard Show Announcer]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Stugotz]

The show is moving a little too fast. The week is moving a little too fast. Building up the entire week until next Monday. It is a company holiday. It is a holiday around the country. But we're working two shows that day because we're going to be doing a live stream of the national championship game. My friends feel bad for me. The friends who are going to the game. The friends who understand that I can't go to the game. Mike Ryan is, I'm assuming, going to the game. The tickets are really hard to get. They're crazy, crazy expensive. I have never been solicited this way by people that I haven't heard from in 20 years because of what this game is. We haven't gotten to the Giannis stuff yet. Giannis was booing his own fans. That seems like something that Miami, Miami Heat fans would be interested in. I will be before the end of the show. Nude, recreating the Don Bailey senior carpet pose at some point. I'm telling you guys.

[Zaslo]

Thank you Zaslo maybe for the Columbus hit.

[Stugotz]

Thank you for the support. We are getting into Columbus. Are we getting into Columbus?

[Zaslo]

Tony, like he said earlier, Tony is telling us for hour two he's going to be somewhere. I don't know where that will end up, but we're hoping to go to Tony.

[Chris]

An hour two, he was locked in.

[Dan Le Batard]

But then the last segment happened.

[Stugotz]

The Bucks lost to the Kings at home this year. Two losses to the Wizards, a 39 point loss to the Nets. They lost to the Nuggets who were missing four starters. They've got a 33 point loss at home to the Wolves. Without Edwards and Gobert, like it's disintegrated there. He's available. He's booing his own fans. Giannis is available. It seems obvious.

[Jeremy Fowler]

It's an interesting strategy from Giannis.

[Stugotz]

I mean, just make it messy.

[Chris]

But he won't.

[Stugotz]

But he just did. He just did. He just did.

[Chris]

Saying out loud, no matter what, I won't ask for a trade. I won't ask for a trade. I won't ask for a trade that's messy. He claims that it's just because of the way that throughout the year on the road, this is what he does when he's getting booed on the road. He'll flex and he'll boo the opposing crowd.

[Jeremy Fowler]

But he knows the difference between home and away, right?

[Chris]

And it's a bit of a reflex, but big difference.

[Dan Lebatard Show Announcer]

The.

[Chris]

The. And the biggest difference is that this was clearly like a premeditated feeling because the. The booing happened as they went in for the half and they were down 30 plus. And this happened on the first bucket of the second half. This is not like, oh, it was much later in the game or it was in the flow of the game. This is the first opportunity that he had to do something like this.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Does he think it's inappropriate for the like for the fan to boo the home team that's down by 30 to the kings?

[Chris]

Well, he reacted to it after the.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Game, like, inappropriate thing for the fans to be upset about.

[Chris]

Look, they had a really poor showing, and they continue to struggle amidst a moment like this.

[Jeremy Fowler]

What are the Kings trailing? What did the Bucks trailing the Kings at home by 30 be like? 1 of the top reasons to boo.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you're a fan.

[Chris]

Well, it was the Timberwolves, but it would be against the Kings, too.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Okay, Timber.

[Stugotz]

Sorry, but it's the Timberwolves without Edwards and Gobert. A good correction. That's right, Jeremy. Just useless correction.

[Zaslo]

So someone say that team without Gobert and Edwards is the Kings.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.

[Stugotz]

The things that I need to get to. We need to keep this moving. Emmy winner Jeremy. He put the Emmy in. Jeremy is gaining confidence around here. He called Zaz a dumbass earlier. That seemed out of his character.

[Jessica]

That was wild.

[Dan Le Batard]

A lot of names have been thrown around Cody.

[Stugotz]

Again, it's Wednesday. Please find me a hurricane that will read what Mike Ryan. Just find me one. Get one in studio. I want one in studio before the end of the show. A hurricane of some repeat to read this quote to threaten Indiana from Mike Ryan, but in front of Greg Cody, he has fished something out of his garage. I believe they are the Dead Sea Scrolls. I'm Looking at them right now, and I don't know what this is. Can we take some guesses on what this is? We've asked Greg Cody to go through his garage to find in his garage just an assortment of things that haven't moved in 50 years. And he's got something Zazzle. Why don't you describe it to the audio audience?

[Jeremy Fowler]

Yeah, I mean, it looks like. It looks like part of the set of the movie National Treasure. It looks like the thing Nicholas Cage.

[Stugotz]

Is carrying around a manifesto, scrolls of some sort. Does anyone in the shipping container have any guesses as to what it is that Greg Cody has here that he is soon going to reveal for us?

[Zaslo]

Is that like my first school project when I was like 4 years old?

[Stugotz]

Is this a sports thing? Greg, can you give us some hints? Is this a sports thing from your garage?

[Greg Cody]

It is a sports thing. It's related to the Cody family legend pfpi.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Is it the original column you wrote to Trey Damarino.

[Zaslo]

That.

[Stugotz]

That is framed on the wall next to Pat Riley over there. Roy, if you want to get that and hold that up for the people we have. Okay, Jeremy will do it.

[Greg Cody]

This came about 20 years before that.

[Stugotz]

All right, so do you want to unspool it? We're not getting a lot of guesses here, but it looks like it's. Looks like it's poster sized. It's got a lot of stains on it. What are those stains? They look like coffee stains. What? Those stains.

[Greg Cody]

Those are the stains of time. It's been in a plastic tub for decades. I had forgotten all about it. And then you asked me to bring in some artifacts. I brought in three. I brought in a 1967 Dolphins media guide. I brought in the first known photo of me when I think I was still a teenager on the job interviewing someone.

[Jeremy Fowler]

And you brought the Bill of Rights.

[Greg Cody]

And then I bought. I refer to it as the Magna Carta, but we're on the same. Same wavelength there.

[Stugotz]

The Bill of Wrongs. So go ahead and spread that out. I feel like I'm gonna start coughing because of the amount of dust in there. It could be because it looks like. It looks dirty, looks old, and it really does look like something you would fish out of an Egyptian pyramid near a mummy that would be thousands of years old. And it looks like a big giant birth certificate. It is a certificate of appreciation. This presentation is made to Commissioner Gregory Paul Cody on this day, December 27, 1971, in appreciation for a job well done while serving as Commissioner of Professional Football Predictions Incorporated all members of the league wish to express their. What's that word? They're performed.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Profound.

[Stugotz]

Oh, they're profound thanks. Well, the cursive is bad.

[Zaslo]

They're writing in cursive.

[Stugotz]

Their profound thanks and gratitude for his diligence and performance of the duties of the office of Commissioner. Signed Dick's Rough Riders, Dad's Dynamics, and Greg's Lobos.

[Zaslo]

So you signed it for yourself?

[Stugotz]

You made that for yourself?

[Greg Cody]

It was cursive back then. Hey, kids, talking to the mic. This is what cursive looks like. No, I believe my brother did this. I did not make.

[Zaslo]

I cannot believe Uncle Dick would do that.

[Greg Cody]

Well, we will.

[Zaslo]

It seems like something you would write for yourself.

[Greg Cody]

I didn't.

[Zaslo]

And then have the family honor myself.

[Greg Cody]

With an appreciation of you.

[Zaslo]

Do it once a year. There's a time during the PFBI gala where you go. Now, let's hear it for the commissioner, Greg Cody.

[Greg Cody]

Well, I also floated the idea of a PFPI hall of Fame, and that never got off the ground. But anyway, I hadn't seen this in decades, and I was thrilled that the.

[Zaslo]

Color on the writing is held up.

[Greg Cody]

It has, yeah. But the paper itself, I think when I went through that rat phase, you know, rats will eat anything. They'll eat cardboard, they'll eat cotton. They'll eat anything you put in front of them. And I think there may have been some rat involvement on that. I'm not sure.

[Stugotz]

I just saw playing dominoes in the other room, a credentialed and famous Miami hurricane. And they work quickly over there to get us people when we need them to Read Mike Ryan quotes from threads that he didn't want.

[Dan Le Batard]

Red four TSLs deep.

[Stugotz]

That is too many.

[Dan Le Batard]

When I say four, it was eight.

[Stugotz]

Too many hints. When you say former Heisman Trophy winner, that. That. That makes it two people. Greg. Yeah, I was trying to be cryptic to the audio audience so that it can.

[Greg Cody]

Pretty obvious, though.

[Dan Lebatard Show Announcer]

No.

[Gino Toretta]

Audio audience.

[Stugotz]

Audio audience. Greg.

[Greg Cody]

No, I misspoke. It's not a high metro misspoke.

[Gino Toretta]

You know what?

[Greg Cody]

I'm just kidding.

[Stugotz]

Minor penalty. Two minutes, sport.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Came out of your mouth.

[Stugotz]

Just get out of here, Greg, for two minutes, you've been on fire today. We'll get to the Heisman Trophy winner, Gino Toretta in a second. Mike, print out that quote you didn't want anyone to see so that he can read it right next to you.

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[Stugotz]

For some reason would do a Gary Stevens impersonation of the offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins in the University of Miami. Go ahead. Do you want to do that for the people? Your Gary Stevens impersonation? You want to give people some of that 30 years in the mail King.

[Greg Cody]

Sts what who needs me?

[Zaslo]

Oh that what you got my whole life.

[Greg Cody]

You're going to go to Buffalo and win with Bernie Pome?

[Gino Toretta]

Who needs B this is the Dan.

[Stugotz]

Levitar show with the St. Jessica is going to join us here in a little bit, but Zazel, I've been miss in not getting to this LeBron James. This is interesting when he's going to fight his way out with the Lakers and he's going to continue to try and change the paradigm in a number of different ways. Rich Paul is doing a podcast and has been doing a podcast here for a little while and if you thought Max Kellerman was going to come back into this game quietly, he is not. So this is all very purposeful. Max Kellerman getting back in at the top of the media game is doing he could have chosen anything. Max Kellerman really could have chosen anything. He chose to do this podcast podcast with Rich Paul who is interested in changing the way all of this is done. Rich Paul is an agent. Rich Paul as The agent for LeBron has an uncommon amount of power and he's just sitting there on a podcast pissing off Laker management by doing things like this with Max Kellerman, the Lakers have options.

[Zaslo]

The Lakers. If I was the Lakers, I would probably be targeting the Memphis Grizzlies as a trade partner for Jaren Jackson.

[Chris]

Yeah, that'd be a great fit.

[Zaslo]

I would, I would, I would.

[Gino Toretta]

For whom?

[Zaslo]

Well, that's the thing. The package just goes out is what you have to decide. Because if you, if you're, if you're able to trade out expirings and give up the last first round pick you got, that could be one scenario, right? Or you can say, let me withhold that. But this comes with a Austin Reeves. This comes with a very unemotional attachment because Austin is beloved, which he should.

[Gino Toretta]

Be, but he's about to get hated.

[Zaslo]

He's an underdog. And here's the thing. You, if you really, if there's a world where you can do what's best for your team and do what's best for Austin because Austin deserves to get.

[Stugotz]

Paid, that is fairly uncommon, what we just witnessed there. And LeBron is flexing through his agent, but LeBron is distant, distancing himself from all of that by saying, oh, no, no, no. Rich Paul's his own man. His own man, his own man. Fascinating to me, all of it, because if the Lakers think they're bigger than LeBron James, and I understand why they would, the last 15 years have emboldened LeBron James to do things the way that he wants. And he's got out here a mouthpiece for him who is his own man, but is developing his own media Persona and is going out on. What an interesting choice for Rich Paul to be able to do this with anybody and for Max Kellerman to be able to do this with anybody. And they chose to do it with.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Each other and for Rich, do it. You know, when we're in the peak of NBA trade season, you know, we're, we're a month away from the trade deadline. And so LeBron got asked about it last night and LeBron's trying to distance himself from it. And like you said, Rich is his own man. I think every. I hope people know that and if they're not sensible to that, that I don't know what to tell them. I think it lacks a little bit of self awareness there where LeBron seems, he, he doesn't understand why anyone would try and connect the dots there. That the most powerful agent in the game, who's the most powerful agent in the game because he represents LeBron James, is trading players to and from LeBron's current team. And people are thinking, wow, I wonder if that's passive aggressive LeBron, who's kind of putting the words in Rich Paul's mouth there. So there's a little bit of a lack of self awareness there. But I also don't understand.

[Stugotz]

That's like.

[Jeremy Fowler]

That's a move from Rich Paul, where he's just. He's getting up there and trading someone else's clients.

[Stugotz]

And by the way, well, well, Max Kellerman is the one who inserted the name by name Austin Reaves there. That's not something that. That's not what Rich said. But then he followed him down the.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Path, and Austin Reeves agent confronted Rich Paul last night at the game. They apparently had a conversation courtside for a few minutes. I mean, you're. You don't want another agent, the biggest agent, trading your clients. It's. It's kind of inappropriate.

[Stugotz]

I want to get back to this, but we have royalty in the house, and I if. At the risk of making things awkward, as I always do. Mike, would you like to hold Gino Toretta right now? Because I really do feel like.

[Zaslo]

I feel like that didn't take long.

[Gino Toretta]

My daddy got mad at me because I said Warren Moon. When I saw his jersey Ward, I'm like, you know, I just showed my age as Warren Moon. And that's an Oilers jersey, right?

[Greg Cody]

I look like old Oilers.

[Gino Toretta]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

I've seen. I've seen Gino once in the last. I don't know how many years. It's been a long time, but it was in an airport, and it was basically just the both of us going. Cam Ward, huh?

[Gino Toretta]

Lax.

[Stugotz]

Cam Ward's pretty good, huh? At the position. He didn't win a Heisman. But you did, Geno. You did. Where is that Heisman right now?

[Gino Toretta]

It is on the bookcase at home.

[Chris]

Weird you don't bring your trophies with you to work. That's strange.

[Dan Le Batard]

Conventional place for it.

[Gino Toretta]

They're a little heavy. This one's a little heavy and large.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Do we want to give Geno the Telestrator?

[Stugotz]

Well, I want to give. I want to give him the telestrator, and I want to give him the Mike Ryan speech to make. And is he willing to do this? I haven't prepped him for any of this, and I haven't seen him for a while, so I don't know how playful he wants to be with this.

[Gino Toretta]

You know, the only time I get invites on this show is when Dan wasn't in and Stu Gotts would invite me.

[Greg Cody]

Whoa.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know who that is, Gino.

[Gino Toretta]

I don't know what. I don't know why, Mike, you know, I mean, we got ties.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Well, I appreciate you. You're a Heisman trophy winner and a legend. You don't have to do what Dan's gonna ask you to do right now.

[Gino Toretta]

All right. I just learned how to play dominoes. First time's a charm.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me preface this by saying this was about 12 tequila soda limes deep.

[Zaslo]

This is a tweet from Mike Ryan.

[Dan Le Batard]

The guy wearing this wasn't a tweet. It was a thread.

[Chris]

Which because he was hiding from the niche.

[Stugotz]

So we need. We need this to be more intimidating than the way Mike Ryan did it where he's basically threatening Indiana. But it's a mil. And we don't think that coming from him, it's as strong as it would be coming from a voice sound face of college football and the hurricanes. And I don't think it's too dangerous for you to say so. Chris, can you give Geno Toretta some music here of some sort?

[Gino Toretta]

And I'm just reading this.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, but you've got to. You've got to go summon your passion.

[Gino Toretta]

I'm going voice.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's a broadcasting legend too. So Gino knows how to find but.

[Stugotz]

Also the soul of hurricane fire.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Ray Lewis is what we want.

[Stugotz]

Indiana's coming into town. They're playing a big game. Gino in Miami. Miami doesn't lose the big games.

[Gino Toretta]

Gardens Dan in Miami.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you know how to summon the soul of hurricane Fire, as Dan put it?

[Gino Toretta]

Sure.

[Stugotz]

Would you like to threaten?

[Gino Toretta]

All right. We got some music.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Gino Toretta]

We ready?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Gino Toretta]

You haven't been tested. Our minds, bodies and spirits have been in hell since Halloween. You're walking into an asylum. The same folks picking you have been pouring dirt on our grave for two and a half months or 20 some years. We're still standing. We're forged in and fire been fighting for our lives longer and then you've mattered. See you in a week. Spot the goddamn ball.

[Zaslo]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Gino Toretta]

I'm ready.

[Dan Lebatard Show Announcer]

I'm ready.

[Gino Toretta]

Let's go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Talking about carries a lot more weight when it's a Heisman trophy winner saying it.

[Stugotz]

Now do it with Mike holding you. Gino, how hard is it to get into that stadium and be around that game? You have some power, but I imagine you're getting inundated. People think you could get them tickets.

[Gino Toretta]

Yes. Yes, yes. Calls from people I haven't seen or heard from in 35 years.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Balls to be that person.

[Zaslo]

Did you have it. Did you have any people do the thing where a week early? They just do the.

[Jeremy Fowler]

That's a good move.

[Zaslo]

Hey, check it in. How you been setting up for the week? Later where they're like, hey, we caught up last week.

[Gino Toretta]

Oh no, I got it after the Fiesta Bowl. I think my first text was, let's see, I was woke up in Phoenix and it was probably five something in the morning and I got a text and it was like, hey, do you know how we get tickets? And I'm like, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

How is Stugot's doing?

[Stugotz]

What, what percentage, what percentage of people? Like if 1 to 100% are you going to be able to actually get tickets? And how many are going to be disappointed?

[Gino Toretta]

Zero. I'm in the same boat. So basically the alumni, we could put in a request for two tickets and we have to use one of them. And they, I don't know how they're going to decide. We did that yesterday. Thursday they're going to, they're going to tell us. I've been asked by series to do some pre game, so I'm going to get a credential, but my wife wants to go to the game. So not saying no to Gino.

[Jeremy Fowler]

How do they decide which players, Gino, you got to be at the very top of the list.

[Gino Toretta]

I don't know. I mean, I, you know, SAP. SAP's like, hey, I need a parking pass. I'm like, dude, they're a thousand bucks online. I don't know. I mean, you know, the bad thing is I'm on Orange bowl committee and normally I get to buy my same tickets that I have for the Orange well for the championship game, but this year my 14 seats are corporate. So.

[Stugotz]

Mike Ryan, how many parking passes have you gotten? How many tickets have you gotten?

[Gino Toretta]

12. See, but he's probably like a big booster and a donor and all that stuff.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't win a Heisman, but, well.

[Gino Toretta]

If I, if I wear a 26 jersey, I think there's some guys on the sidelines. I don't know how they get down there the last few games.

[Stugotz]

So as someone who knows, really knows college football still modern college football as well. Can you separate your emotion from your analysis on this game? Like, what do you believe is going to happen? But answer my first question first. Can you separate your emotion from your analysis?

[Gino Toretta]

Yes, I would say this emotionally. Personally, I'm rooting for Mendoza because he's a stud. He's a local kid. Met him in New York at the Heisman and great story. And I can remember doing a game, Cal and USC and they, they lost 50 to 49. And I remember Dan looking at my boards going, who the hell is this kid from Miami and why Isn't he at Miami because he was accurate as hell with the ball throwing and he's gotten better from, from there. So I think, you know, individually, I guess all those kind of root for guys individually. Obviously Miami, they have the talent, skill up front, they have mass on the offensive line. Little different than, you know, we were in school. It was all speed and using the skill guys on the outside. I think there are some guys on Miami's team that remind me of guys I played with. I think Fletcher is a guy just give me the damn ball. I'm not going to let us lose. I think Malachi is the same way. He's just been dynamic and unbelievable Bane. I think as far as when you look at the matchup, Indiana may not have the superstar power I guess that we have outside of Mendoza, but they play arguably the best team football of anybody in college football. Now the bad thing is everybody's blowing smoke up there, you know what and saying they're the best team since the lsu. You know, Joe Burrow teams, that's a rap rap poison.

[Stugotz]

But if they win this game, Geno they will be regarded as such. If they win this game, they will have to be considered one of the best teams of all time.

[Gino Toretta]

I think they will be considered to have one of the best seasons. You know, lsu, you got to go back. Add in the fact of look at the picks on their team pros. I don't think that Indiana is going to have that type of draft day success. I would say if they won, Mendoza will have had the best by far playoff bowl performance of anybody in the history of college football. I think that what he's done, he's gotten better every week. I mean it's just, it's amazing. The accuracy he has, the precision he has and nobody's been able to get him off platform. Even when Ohio State lit him up in the first play, even, you know, even the first series last game they didn't, they didn't look great. He makes adjustments and he's been pretty impressive.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I agree they certainly don't have the talent and the NFL draft talent that that LSU team did. I think people do this thing where they see the eight blue chippers, you know, the five and four stars and they say, wow, this team is really maximizing on their talent. There are plenty talent did. I think that's a question. When it's all said and done, they probably have four first rounders on that, on that offense. When you have Mendoza, the center, Surat, and I know that Charlie Becker is Not eligible for the draft, but he's looking like a player. I think he's PFF's highest rated wide receiver since week 11. He's really. Come on. So they got a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball.

[Gino Toretta]

Yeah. Not Justin Jefferson. Of guys that are like the best in the NFL.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fair enough.

[Gino Toretta]

That's. That's all, that's all I said.

[Stugotz]

Fair enough.

[Gino Toretta]

I just. What's impressive when you watch their defense, you know, they're, they are sound in their assignments. Like, they don't miss gaps, they don't let somebody cut back and just gash them.

[Stugotz]

Everyone's had a 50 pound advantage on their defensive line. Like everyone has that advantage.

[Gino Toretta]

I mean, they lost arguably their best rusher. Yeah. To a freak knee injury after the Big Ten championship game. And that, that they have just not missed a beat. So yeah, it's, it's been impressive their sound. They don't beat themselves. And you know, at some point in time, you know, everybody's like, get to the quarterback. Hell yeah, get to the quarterback. Little easier said than done because it seems like Mendoza, if you rush him, he gets rid of it quick or, you know, he's been athletic enough to make some plays.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Gino, I can't stop watching the Carson Beck touchdown. Can you, can you take us what you are feeling good, that play and all the emotion.

[Gino Toretta]

Well, one, I obviously, I thought that it being there, I was like, man, does LSU or Ole Miss have the magic at the end and we don't have enough time and then we, you know, march down and, and get in that range. I just remember watching the play and I mean, obviously we're trying to throw to Malachi. He gets doubled and Carson looks right. And I watched the D tackle for Ole Miss like fall down and he's just gassed. I mean, the guy can't even like get up at that.

[Jeremy Fowler]

People were upset at him. People like Ole Miss fans, like, he quit. People were upset.

[Gino Toretta]

How many plays had he played at that point? I mean, like, guys got no gas at that, at that point. And when he turned back around, he didn't even run. I go, touchdown. And my, and my buddy in the box goes, what do you mean touchdown? I go, there's nobody over there. All he's got to do is hell at 55. I could run for a touchdown at that point in time.

[Dan Le Batard]

But that's a visual manifestation of a team getting worn down, though. That's what Miami's offensive line will do to you. It'll make you.

[Gino Toretta]

I mean, they're enormous. You know what I mean? I still work out the wellness center on campus. You see that Markel Bell, and it's just like. If you walk next to him, it's like a shadow.

[Stugotz]

The weird part about that is Miami's never had the great offensive lineman. I know McKinney was drafted high. This guy's bigger than McKinney.

[Gino Toretta]

That's why, like, Dan, his size is just like. You look at these guys, you're like, he's enormous. And then they figured out, I don't know, the push. The pile pushes are. I don't know how they're legal in football because I don't think they were when I played.

[Stugotz]

Shouldn't be.

[Gino Toretta]

But, man, they get kind of stopped and it's just like, push the whole pile. 812 yards.

[Greg Cody]

I pop for that. I love it.

[Stugotz]

Gino, we'll get back to you in a second. But out there, they're summoning you to Domino's because somebody, I think it was Robert the IT guy, said he wanted to kick your Heisman ass. We'll come back and get you.

[Gino Toretta]

Let me put it to you this way. I ended with the most. Whatever you call cards. Yeah. You know, I was called. I was saying, this is like uno, but my. But my partner dropped him and we won, so I don't know what that means.

[Stugotz]

Go ahead and get out there. We'll come back to you because we've got Jessica coming in here. We'll come back to you in a second. We also have to go. Go back out to Tony at Columbus. Also, I'm going to be nude later in the show. Laying off.

[Zaslo]

What a show.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, we got a lot going on.

[Dan Lebatard Show Announcer]

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[Stugotz]

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[Gino Toretta]

Wow.

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[Gino Toretta]

Yours, yours.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Jess, you can't talk about double digit national titles won. Every single call of you winning the national title sounds like this. Oh, there's. There's Chubby jacket running down the sideline if the audio.

[Zaslo]

Yeah, that's not true.

[Gino Toretta]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And there's a World War II veteran pitching into another white guy and he avoids another white guy.

[Jessica (guest)]

Oh, my God.

[Dan Lebatard Show Announcer]

Notre Dame.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Fighting Irish have done it again for the eighth time over playing white people Stuga.

[Stugotz]

That's Chubby Checker.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sorry, he's black. He's black. And I was like, named Chubby Checker. I think I'm like, I'm sorry, man. I'm improv in here. It's a pretty cool riff. Why is running down the side he spells it differently? All right. His name is Chubby. Maybe you didn't hear me correctly. His name is Chubby Checkers. There's an S at the end.

[Jeremy Fowler]

I feel like that should be the largest of fives.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chubby Checker. It sounds like a quote, college football name.

[Stugotz]

This is the D. Levatar show with the St Cats. So Jessica's here, and I was. I was fairly shocked to learn this. I feel like this was her man betraying her. But during the Steelers game, during a Steelers loss. We've got. This is not made up. It is not altered. This is. Jessica has released this to the public. She had fallen asleep. And this was the sound that was coming out of her face.

[Zaslo]

You can hear Al Michaels in the background.

[Stugotz]

People are gonna think that's altered. Jessica, what happened here?

[Jessica (guest)]

Hi, Dan. It's nice to see you, too. Thanks for setting it up that way. This was actually during the Bears game Saturday night. And the setup is I got really cozy, comfy in my jammies, and I thought, there's no way the Bears are gonna My Chicago Bears are gonna come back in this game. So I got a little cozy and I closed my eyes. And then the next morning, Lehman showed me this on his phone.

[Stugotz]

It's fairly startling. Was it a betrayal? Did Lehman just betray you?

[Jessica (guest)]

Yes. He said, are you in a good mood right now? And I said, why would you ask me that? He's like, are you. Are you capable of seeing something that may upset you? And I said, I mean, yeah, sure. What is it? I thought it was going to be like something terrible about, like, a sports team that I follow. And instead he pulled up his voice recordings and played that for me. I still think it may have been the dog.

[Zaslo]

This Sounds like some milligrams here. How many we think in 10, 20.

[Stugotz]

It sounds like a lumberjack.

[Greg Cody]

It does.

[Stugotz]

After just an exhausting day in the forest.

[Jessica (guest)]

Yeah, I mean, it was a long. I got a lot of fresh air on Saturday.

[Dan Le Batard]

What am I?

[Jessica (guest)]

What's a gal to do, Dan? I was sleepy. It was late. I. I should. I belong in the central time zone. No one should be on the east coast to watch primetime football games.

[Stugotz]

You do understand? No one's going to believe that that is actually you. They're going to think that we altered that.

[Jessica (guest)]

Why not? I mean, it kind of. Kind of fits my whole. I sneeze loud. I snore loud. I was with a baby yesterday, like a six week old baby who was. She's having a tough time sleeping at night, Dan. And she finally fell asleep in her mother's arms. And then I had to sneeze really bad and I let it rip and I woke the baby up and I felt so bad about it. But sometimes there's just nothing you can do.

[Stugotz]

A week ago, you were drinking fake alcohol on here, celebrating the Steelers, and.

[Jessica (guest)]

Now who was drinking alcohol? Not me.

[Stugotz]

Tomlin has now been fired or he's stepped down. Excuse me. How do you feel about this today? Thank you.

[Jessica (guest)]

Thank you. I think. I mean, I think I have mixed feelings. I'm not celebrating that he stepped down, but I also think it kind of feels like it was time. Like 19 years is a really long time. It had been sort of the same story for the last few seasons where the team is, you know, claws its way into the playoffs, and then I have to watch a brutally embarrassing wild card weekend playoff loss to Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes or, you know, the Houston Texans defense. And so I get why he want to move on. It doesn't sound like a decision that he made after Monday night. It sounds like something he had been thinking about for most of the season based off of Jeremy Fowler's reporting. So I kind of get it. It makes sense. And you know, I, I'm, I'm sad I'm going to miss him. But you know, 20 years is a long time.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Just better chance for the Steelers next year. They're in the playoffs again or they have the number one overall pick.

[Jessica (guest)]

Probably the latter, if I had to guess. I think, think it's, it's a tough spot for any new coach to come in because the quarterback situation is obviously very unsettled. I think the, the bright side for me is it sounds like Aaron Rodgers return is extremely unlikely now, so that's great. Didn't want to, didn't want to run that one back next year, but yeah, I mean if you look at the available jobs like in your same division, you've got a job in Baltimore with a MVP caliber quarterback and then you've got the Steelers who have a decent roster, but some flawed, expensive contracts on older players. But at the same time, like there's some, some nice younger players like they've drafted well in the interior of the lines. They have some nice younger players there, but with the quarterback situation being what it is, yeah, I think that that's going to be tough for whoever takes that job.

[Greg Cody]

Jess, what do you think Tomlin's legacy is? Because despite the relentless winning seasons, one super bowl win, a bad finish, I think it's fair to say with the playoff win drought, how do you, what do you see his legacy in the bigger picture?

[Jessica (guest)]

In the big picture, I think hall of Fame head coach that won a Super bowl in Pittsburgh, that had a record of winning, not losing seasons, winning seasons that I don't think anyone's ever going to break. Greg, honestly, I think like if you look at the last few years, yeah, it's been disappointing, but it's still been better than a lot of other teams. And so you give him credit for, for what he's done with, with imperfect rosters and without a franchise quarterback, but over the span of 19 years, I think without a doubt a Hall of Famer and one of the best ever do it.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Dan, you think he's gonna go hall of Fame?

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Jessica (guest)]

Is that, is that up for dispute?

[Jeremy Fowler]

There's a lot of coaches who've won a Super bowl, they're not in the hall of fame.

[Chris]

Questions as 100% he'll be a Hall of Fame.

[Jeremy Fowler]

Every coach who wins a Super bowl.

[Gino Toretta]

Is in the hall of fame.

[Zaslo]

100%.

[Jessica (guest)]

No one said that you're changing the argument. That's a straw man.

[Stugotz]

The one who has 19 straight winning seasons.

[Jessica (guest)]

And Dan, don't fall for it. That's a straw man argument. No one said every coach that wins a Super bowl makes the hall of Fame straw man. We're talking about one specific coach.

[Jeremy Fowler]

He's a really good coach. A really good coach.

[Gino Toretta]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Never had a losing season.

[Stugotz]

No.

[Jeremy Fowler]

9 and 8's not that great.

[Stugotz]

All right.

[Jessica (guest)]

I mean, I agree with you. I think it's been. You guys perfect. The last.

[Stugotz]

The better question to me is, is Antonio Brown a Hall of Famer? Because Antonio Brown's statistics, like, they're a good deal better than the wide receivers that you guys are talking about that have not. This isn't Tory. This isn't Tory Holt.

[Gino Toretta]

This.

[Stugotz]

Antonio Brown was the best receiver in football for five straight.

[Jeremy Fowler]

I mean, he might be a Hall of Famer, but they will not vote him in.

[Stugotz]

Okay, but I think it's a character clause or I think it's a better question than is Mike Tomlin going to be a Hall of Famer? Because I think Mike Tomlins is. It's obvious. And there's nothing bad to put there. There's nothing. There's nothing bad to put next to Mike Tomlin's resume. Like you could say no playoff victories, but winning seasons every year. She's talking about a record that's not going to be broken.

[Gino Toretta]

Broken.

[Greg Cody]

There's a little stigma about one super bowl and. And I think it applies to Aaron Rodgers as well. And, and it may be unfair, but if you have a great career and win only one super bowl, that's a stigma.

[Jessica (guest)]

Greg, do you think Aaron Rodgers should be in the hall of Fame?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, without question.

[Gino Toretta]

No.

[Jessica (guest)]

So obviously there's exceptions then. Even though there may be one stigma. A stigma to one Super Bowl.

[Greg Cody]

And I think Tomlin will be in the hall of Fame, but I don't think it's unfair to ask whether or not he will be. I don't know that. It's just an absolute no brainer.

[Stugotz]

She's got a weekly podcast, Notre Dame podcast, the Echoes with Mike Golick Jr. Before this game that's being played. I don't know if you're going to be a part of our livestream on Monday. I hope so. It might be too late for you. You might. You might be snoring. Do you have both a rooting interest and a thought on the way that that game is going to go?

[Jessica (guest)]

I don't really have a rooting. I've gone back and forth on this. I don't really have a rooting interest. Dan, My best friend Priya went to Indiana and has been along on their postseason journey. So I'm probably going to be with her this weekend and I'll probably have to cheer for Indiana, but like, I don't really have a dog in the fight so I'm rooting for a good game.

[Stugotz]

How about your analysis? As someone who loves college football and loves the minutia of breaking down games, what are your thoughts about Mendoza's precision against Miami's physical strength?

[Jessica (guest)]

Yeah, I think it's going to be a better game than people are giving it credit for. I think that having the Oregon Indiana game be so recent in people's minds, which was a total Dan and Dan Lanning disaster class, is kind of making people think that like, oh man, Miami's got no shot. But I do think it's going to be a good battle in the trenches. I think Mendoza has obviously been really excellent. I think if Indiana plays their A plus game they're probably going to win the game, but I think it's more of a game than maybe the spread is giving it credit for for thank.

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[Chris]

That guy's not winning an Emmy.

[Jessica]

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