Hour 1: The Great Soda Debate of 2026 (feat. Jessica Smetana & Jorge Sedano)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 1: The Great Soda Debate of 2026 (January 21, 2026)

Main Theme / Purpose:
Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew dive into sports, pop-culture, and absurdist debates—this episode spotlighting the evolving status of cash in America, college football reactions, Pittsburgh Steelers coaching rumors, the viral Dr. Pepper jingle, and an epic debate about soda, finger foods, and personal hygiene.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dan's Cash Confrontation at the Valet

• Story Recap: Dan attempts to pay a valet with cash, only to discover the service has gone digital.
• Hilarity Ensues: Dan insists, “This is America, Jack. Cash is still good!” [01:02]
• Sedano’s Embellishment: Sedano describes the scene as awkward and embarrassing, likening it to a scenario worthy of the "Am I the A Hole?" Reddit page.
• Panel Judgement: Stugotz and Jessica debate who was in the wrong, with Sedano firmly stating Dan was the “a-hole.”
  • Quote: “I love you, but you’re the a hole.” – Sedano [03:26]
  • Jessica's Take: Sedano should have been a better friend by telling Dan his behavior was embarrassing. [03:42]
• Humor: Cuban embellishment jokes fly as they debate who said “Jack” the most times.

2. College Football National Championship Reactions

• Jessica’s Multi-Cast Viewing Experience: She enjoyed ESPN’s skycast and coaches’ film room, noting it enhanced her understanding of game dynamics, but struggled with producers missing live plays by lingering on replays.
  • Quote: “I wish we had a forever game…watch the sky cast of all the NFL games I want to watch on a Sunday because it’s so peaceful and you get to see so much more.” – Jessica [05:38]
• Viral Dr. Pepper Jingle: Lucy and Jessica discuss the TikTok-generated jingle that made it into a national commercial.
  • Quote (singing): “Dr. Pepper, baby, it’s good and nice!” – Jessica [06:59]
• Notre Dame/Miami Playoff Fallout: Jessica clarifies she wasn’t bitter, rooting mainly for a good game. The crew breaks down game strategy, coaching calls, and key moments such as the blocked punt and pivotal penalties.
  • Statistic: Indiana’s postgame win expectancy was only 14%. [09:24]
• Coaching Critique: The group debates clock management and crucial endgame decisions.

3. Steelers Coaching Carousel: The Mike McCarthy Rumor

• Jessica on the AI-Generated Coach Image: Finds the “floating cigarette” in Mike McCarthy’s AI photo ridiculous and sees the report as unlikely.
  • Quote: “This would be like the most un-Steelers hire of all time.” – Jessica [12:13]
• Dave Dameshek’s Response: “Who cares what their wish list is? This era needs to be purged.” [12:51]
• Discussion of Marcus Freeman: Unlikely to leave Notre Dame for the NFL, with Jessica lobbying for younger, fresh coaching candidates.

4. William Shatner Eating Cereal While Driving & Finger Food Debates

• Rib Eating in Cars: Jessica and Dave recount their car dining adventures, including rotisserie chicken and ribs.
  • Prompt: “Put it on the poll: Have you ever eaten a rotisserie chicken in the car? Have you ever eaten ribs in the car?” – Stugotz [17:28]
• Zaslow’s Food Taboos: Zaslow refuses to eat “messy” finger foods like ribs, even as he samples White Castle on-air.
  • Quote: “I’m not trying to take a bath after I have dinner, all right?” – Zaslow [18:18]
• Panel’s Disbelief: The group is incredulous, teasing Zaslow about his picky eating (“nerd with his silverware”).

5. The Great Soda Debate: Sugar vs. Diet vs. Zero Sugar

• Zaslow’s Soda Experience: Shockingly reveals he’s never had root beer or Dr. Pepper. [25:06-25:27]
• Root Beer Preferences: Debunking myths around root beer’s frequency and appropriateness. Chris Cody champions zero-sugar versions.
• Sugar vs. Artificial Sweeteners: Spirited argument over whether diet sodas taste as good or better than regular.
  • Quote: “Diet Coke—much better than Coke.” – Greg Cody [30:55]
  • Lucy’s Take: “Diet Coke is better than Coke. It’s a totally different flavor.” [30:58]
  • Dan’s Counter: “The only way that you can arrive at that opinion is if you haven’t tasted [Coke].” [31:30]
• Root Beer Brands and Trivia: A&W, Barq’s, and Mug featured, with fun facts about logos and naming conventions.
  • Did You Know? Arby’s = "RB" for roast beef. [38:05-38:15]
  • A&W Origin: Named after founders Roy Allen and Frank Wright. [39:06]

6. Hygiene and Product Conspiracies

• Conditioner and Body Wash Are a Scam?: Dave Dameshek riffs on the creation of shampoo, conditioner, and the commercialization of body wash and “shower gel.”
  • Quote: “Shampoo is soap and soap is shampoo…this is all the man having his way with you.” – Dave Dameshek [33:31]
• Greg Cody’s Old-School Approach: Dismisses specialty products, insists traditional bar soap suffices.
• Leg Washing Dispute: Greg and Chris Cody claim the “soap falls down” so you don’t need to scrub your legs unless visibly dirty.
  • Quote: “If I look at my leg and it’s dirty, I wash it. If there’s no visible dirt, it’s unnecessary.” – Greg Cody [41:32]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan’s Valet Meltdown:
  “This is America, Jack. Cash is still good!” – Dan Le Batard (Retold by Sedano) [01:02]

• Jessica on ESPN’s Skycast:
  “It’s so peaceful and you get to see so much more of the lines of scrimmage, and I just really enjoy it.” [05:38]

• The Dr. Pepper Jingle:
  “Dr. Pepper, baby, it’s good and nice!” – Jessica (singing) [06:59]

• Dave Dameshek on Steelers Needs:
  “This era needs to be purged.” [12:51]

• White Castle Product Plug:
  “Cravings say eat this. And with White Castle, 100% beef, grilled onions, melty cheese, and steamy buns…” – Chris Cody [22:02]

• Zaslow on Messy Food:
  “It doesn’t taste good enough to me to go through trouble. Sorry, not sorry.” [18:18]

• Coke vs. Diet Coke:
  “Diet Coke—much better than Coke. Unequivocal.” – Greg Cody [30:55]

• Lucy’s Insult:
  “I hope he has the day he deserves.” [28:45]

• Dave Dameshek on Body Wash:
  “Don’t call soap ‘body wash.’ It’s soap…That’s a made-up phrase that just means soap. It’s supposed to sound fancier and more upscale than soap. Dupes.” [40:14]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:28 – 03:43: Dan’s valet cash fiasco, panel judges the scenario.
• 04:18 – 06:03: Jessica’s national championship viewing experience.
• 06:09 – 07:11: Viral Dr. Pepper jingle and commercial.
• 07:12 – 11:35: Playoff emotions, Notre Dame/Miami game breakdown, key stats.
• 11:54 – 13:40: Steelers coaching rumors and AI photo debacle.
• 17:10 – 18:55: Shatner eating cereal in the car, car food stories, Zaslow’s food quirks.
• 25:06 – 31:22: On never having root beer, Dr. Pepper, and soda flavor debates.
• 33:29 – 36:01: Shampoo/conditioner conspiracy, “Big Soap,” and old-school hygiene.
• 39:06 – 41:06: Trivia about root beer and Arby’s, Greg Cody’s controversial hygiene tips.

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Conclusion

Hour 1 of “The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz” balances laugh-out-loud storytelling, pop culture tangents, post-championship football analysis, and off-beat debates ranging from soda flavor superiority to the legitimacy of conditioner and body wash. The crew delivers their signature irreverence and insight, creating a can't-miss episode for both sports fans and lovers of the absurd.

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For More:

• Jessica’s Notre Dame Podcast: The Echoes with Mike Golic Jr.
• Greg Cody Podcast: The Greg Cody Show with Greg Cody
• Recurring polls on show topics at @LeBatardShow on social media

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Stugats]

A lot to talk about with Jessica. We'll get to her in just a second. But Sedano's got just a couple of minutes here in between the show that he's doing in Los Angeles. Does a very popular radio show every morning in Los Angeles. Sedano, your appraisal, your telling of the story, standing next to me at the valet. Give the people the information from your vantage point.

[Sedano]

Okay, so we are coming back from lunch, you and I, a couple days ago, and you tell me, hey, can you give the ticket to the guy? I'm gonna run to the restroom real quick. I said, hey, no problem. So I give the guy the ticket. Guy orders the car. You come out, and you're about to give the guy a 20. Cause I think the value is like, 15. And the guy says, oh, man, we don't take cash. And you say, what do you mean you don't take cash? And he goes, you said, this is America, Jack.

[Chris Cody]

Jack.

[Sedano]

Money is good here in America.

[Chris Cody]

Still.

[Sedano]

Cash is still good. And the guy literally says to you, sir, this is my second day. I'll call my boss. Hold on a second. He's, like, terrified. And then the boss comes over, kind of on the phone, I guess he's talking to his bigger boss, and he's like. He says, sir, you know, we don't. We don't take cash. We just. We do things digitally. And you're like, but this is America. What do you mean, cash is still good in America? You're going to take my cash, and you put the crispy $20 on the stand, and then, like, turned around and looked at me, and I'm mortified. I don't know what's happening here. I was like, I thought you knew the guy. And the guy's like, okay, sir, well, let me figure this out. And don't worry. And you're just telling him, it's America. Cash is still good. And I'm standing there going, what the hell is happening here? And he's being super polite. He's like, all right, sir, we'll figure it out. And then he gets off the phone with, I guess his boss, this is the second guy, and says, okay, sir, here's your car. Don't worry about it. We'll deal with it. So he's like, then taking the cash and then paying for your parking himself with some sort of digital payment, whether it's Venmo or Zelle or something like that. And then we get in the car and you say to me, it was okay, right? I was like, it was okay, I guess.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Sedano]

It wasn't too bad inside. I was like, in my head going, dan, what the hell did you just do?

[Dave Dameshek]

Wow.

[Stugats]

I also believe I did say cash is still good in America. For now. I believe. I believe I said for now. You did add for now.

[Sedano]

There was that caveat.

[Stugats]

Yes. Trump card.

[Zaslow]

How many times did you tell them it's America?

[Stugats]

I think I didn't say jack four times. I didn't say. I might have said Jose. I didn't say jack. That's Cody's move. I wouldn't say thank you.

[Greg Cody]

I have a patent on that.

[Stugats]

That's Cuban embellishment from Sedano. All right, so now. Thank you.

[Sedano]

Very slightly. Slightly Cuban embellishment. But, Dan, there's a Reddit page called am I the A hole? And I would say, and you know, a lot of people put up different scenarios of two sides of the coin. I would say that if the valet crew put up am I the a hole here? They would say you were the a hole in that scenario.

[Stugats]

How about you? What? Where does your vote?

[Sedano]

I was just an innocent bystander. Like, I know what the hell to do.

[Chris Cody]

Feels like he thought you were the asshole.

[Stugats]

Okay, but where do you land? Do you vote on I'm the ass.

[Sedano]

I love you, but you're the a hole. Okay.

[Stugats]

Thank you for being on with us. Jessica, where do you vote? Here. I saw your faces. You were making. You were making faces. You're saying I shouldn't have done that. There was not a jack there. I don't. There might have been one. This is America. I mean, I don't think there were four. This is America's.

[Jessica]

I put a little bit of blame on Sedano just for being a bad friend. Because when you get back in the car after that scenario, that's when he has to be honest with you and say, dan, this behavior was a little embarrassing, not very acceptable, and next time we'll do better.

[Stugats]

He could have also paid while I sent him out there to the bathroom. I mean, I paid for lunch. He could have taken. He's got a card. He could have paid. He makes money.

[Jessica]

Another point against Sedano. I don't know, maybe you're both the a hole.

[Stugats]

Can you. Can you take us through you watching the ending of the national championship game?

[Jessica]

I can take you through the whole game, which I watched a combo of the sky cast and the coaches film room. Dan, I don't know if you guys recall, but coaches film room probably four years ago was the first time that the Jimbo Fisher character made an appearance on this show because he was in the coach's film room with, I believe, members of his staff at Texas A and M. And, man, it was just. It was such a fun watch with Jimbo. So I dabbled in it a little bit this year to see how it would go with Mike Gundy, Dave Claussen, Gene Chisak, and Steve Adasio. I know, Lucy. Dave Claus and not your favorite guy. This is also a kind of a weird. A weird bunch of coaches, but I enjoyed it. One flaw, though, they kept. They were like two in the weeds on coach's film room doing replays. Like, I liked the information they were giving me, but they kept showing replays while there was stuff happening in the game. And I was watching with my best friend who went to Indiana, and she was screaming at me and her husband to put it back on Skycast because we kept missing stuff. So then we put it on the sky cast, which was awesome for most of the types of plays you'll see in a football game. However, the blocked punt sky cam was way on the other side of the field. We had no idea what was going on. We missed the whole thing. And then we put it back on the regular ESPN broadcast for a little bit, and then for the end of the game, we're back on Skycast. And the interception was awesome on Skycast because you. You kind of just saw it coming the whole way. So anyways, I love the simulcast for the national championship game. And now I just. I wish we had a forever game. I wish I could do Sunday ticket with a sky cast component and watch the sky cast of all of the NFL games I want to watch on a Sunday because it's so just. It's so peaceful and it's so awesome, and you get to see so much more of the lines of scrimmage, and I just really enjoy it. Dan.

[Lucy]

Jess. So obviously I was at the game I didn't get to watch. Did you get to see the Dr. Pepper commercial?

[Jessica]

Yes, I. Lucy. I was like, wait a second, was that the. The jingle? And then I posted about it on Blue sky, and someone was like, I don't know why they didn't wait until the Super Bowl. And I was like, you know what? That's a good point. That would have been a good time to unveil it. But I know Dr. Pepper and college football and ESPN have, like, a whole thing. So anyways, what did you think about that? I thought it was actually a Great surprise.

[Lucy]

I was devastated that I missed it. So for those of you who don't know, there was this girl on TikTok and she said, hey, I have an idea for a jingle for Dr. Pepper. And she just, like, sang this little song, and everyone was like, you know what? Pretty good jingle. And then we thought we would never hear about it again. And then I get notifications during the game Monday that they're like, hey, they put the jingle in a commercial. And now Dr. Pepper has, like, like, teamed up with this girl from TikTok who sang this song. And if you're online, you know, it was a really big deal, but you guys don't seem to care that much.

[Jessica]

Dr. Pepper, baby, it's good and nice.

[Lucy]

It's so good. Like, isn't that a great jingle? And so we were so shocked.

[Dave Dameshek]

Cody, the hall of Fame.

[Greg Cody]

I did. What a great song.

[Chris Cody]

You have given me some ideas.

[Greg Cody]

It's fantastic. Jess, I wanted to get more to the emotion of what you were feeling Monday night, because to a lot of Notre Dame fans, I'm guessing Miami's the team that bumped you out of the playoff. It had to be. How thrilled were you that Miami not only lost, but lost the way they did? I don't want to put words in your mouth.

[Jessica]

Yeah, you did, and that's okay. I don't really feel like Miami did bump Notre Dame. I feel like Alabama bumped Notre Dame, to be honest with you. So when they got their asses handed to them in the Rose Bowl, I felt a little bit of, like, okay, cathartic. But to be honest with you, Greg, like this, it's been, I don't know how many weeks since the last regular season college football game that I watched. I kind of moved on to next year when it comes to Notre Dame. So I was just fully enjoying the game. All I was rooting for was a good football game. And when it was only 100 at halftime, I was like, I think this is going to be a good football game. And I think the stop that Miami had coming back from the half when Indiana got the ball to start the second half was huge. And then it kind of just from that point forward, it felt like a real game. So I was really happy that we got a great end to the season. And to be honest with you, didn't really care too much who won. Although, like I said, I was watching the game with my best friend who went to Indiana. So after Indiana won, I realized how happy I was to experience that with her. It was really nice. It was A lot of fun.

[Stugats]

Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, the Echoes with Mike kolik, Mike Golick Jr. Colic. One of the things that I thought was interesting about the game is the Indiana offensive lineman after the game saying, look, we knew that defensive line was good, but holy shit. So what you get, what you end up getting in that game is that Indiana really has only two touchdown drives. One aided by multiple Miami penalties, the other aided by two fourth down calls that were exceptional. So you get basically two touchdown drives from Indiana. There were a lot of things that happened in that game that I thought Miami would have settled for before the game, would have wanted the game to play out that way, but they lost it anyway.

[Jessica]

To be fair, there were also a couple drives where you know, the, the refs were letting them play that could have been extended by penalties, especially the one early on with the late hit on Mendoza. But yeah, I think Bill Connolly's post game win expectancy metric is something I usually look at just as an indicator on, you know, what, what really is going on with some of the stats in the games and like if you played this game 100 times, like who, what's the outcome going to be? And I think Indiana's post game win expectancy was only 14% after that. And the black punt is a huge swing in a game. Like if you looked at like first half statistics, I think Indiana was offensively just doing a lot better playing their game a lot better. Miami's defense, you know, obviously you had a player that was out because of the targeting penalty and that sort of helped after the second half started. But Miami's defense was playing well, but they weren't, you know I will also criticize Indiana and Miami both with their first second half like end of half clock management. Miami settling for the long field goal there and then Indiana had a chance to get into field goal range and kind of let some time wind down, which I thought was strange. So only 10 to 0. But you know, Indiana has offense played better in the first half and then the second half. I thought if you look at, you know, any of the success rate EPA per play, any of those statistics like Miami ended up playing overall throughout the game a much more, had a much more successful offense in the game. So I think, you know, I don't know if you say like tale of two halves or something like that, but that's why getting those first half points was really important for Indiana and then having the black punt was a huge, huge swing in that game. And I also like, I, I posted this online while I was watching it, but the drive at the end when Indiana had fourth and four and had to. Well, the false start was unfortunate. One of the worst timed false starts ever, possibly. But Indiana had to make a decision if they were going to kick a field goal, go up six, or try to get a first down, try to score, go up seven. And I, to be honest, was pretty critical of that decision to kick the field goal there because I don't think going up 6 gets anything for you. So it kind of felt like everything was going right for Miami to come back and score the winning touchdown. And unfortunately, the interception happened at the end. But, yeah, in a tight game, things like block punts really, really matter, Dan. And things like false starts really, really matter.

[Stugats]

I was worried about that kid's future and how haunted he was going to be if they lost that game for false starting in that situation. The Steelers coaching search. When you say Mike McCarthy, How do you feel about the Steelers coaching search?

[Jessica]

Did you guys see this photo that Tom Pelissero posted on his social media with a whole thing about Mike McCarthy? Okay, if you zoom in, this is an AI generated image. If you zoom in on Mike McCarthy's right ear, there's just like a cigarette floating up there.

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Jessica]

It makes me so angry.

[Dave Dameshek]

He put the cigarette on. On the side of his head and it just stuck there. That happens to every Pittsburgh. Didn't you know?

[Jessica]

Sometimes it does. That's true. I would love if there's just like a pierogi sticking out of his ear, too, Dave. But, yeah, so the AI Slop image aside, this would be like the most unstealers, like, hire of all time. So I just don't believe that this is gonna happen. Dave, I need to know what you think. I just don't. Like, there's no part of me that can believe that this is actually a reality that we're living in right now. And, like, Mike McCarthy's gonna coach his hometown team and Aaron Rodgers is gonna come back for a year. Like, we're getting the gang back together. I do not believe this.

[Dave Dameshek]

First of all, I don't want to be overly formal, but please, it's national champion Dave Dameshek. But, yeah, the idea that it's because the Steelers players, including their leadership, obviously their tenured guys, Cam Heyward and TJ Watt, want to run it back with Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers is not a reason to run it back. Does everybody realize that they have not won a playoff game? That's why Mike Tomlin is out now. Who cares what their wish list is? This era needs to be purged. They need to see if they can figure out a way to move on from T.J. watt.

[Jessica]

Yeah, it's just like, weird. It's a weird report that's been out there. And the cigarette in the ear just made me believe it was all a farce.

[Dave Dameshek]

How about Marcus Freeman now?

[Jessica]

Yeah, I. He was asked like six times in his press conference last week if he wanted to coach in the NFL, and I don't believe he does right now. And he already tweeted that he was coming back for the year. Certainly doesn't seem to be operating in the way that he would leave. But, you know, I also, I think like someone like Chris Shula does just make a lot more sense. Even Nate Shieldhouse makes a lot more sense. Yeah. And like, I think that would be. I think that would be wise. I think you need to inject some youth there and just kind of start over with with things. And please don't bring back Aaron Rodgers.

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[Jessica]

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[Lucy]

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[Zaslow]

Don Lebatard I don't think I ever.

[Lucy]

Got that many roses in my whole life.

[Stugats]

Stugats.

[Dave Dameshek]

Certainly not from your lovely grandfather.

[Stugats]

God.

[Greg Cody]

May a soul rest in peace.

[Zaslow]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Stugats]

Your thoughts here on William Shatner, 94 years old, driving in his car while clearly eating cereal.

[Jessica]

I'm with national champion Dave Damaschek. I've eaten rotisserie chicken in the car. I've had ribs in the car. I've done it all in the car. Really? So this is nothing.

[Stugats]

Maybe ribs in the car. Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Have you ever eaten a rotisserie chicken in the car? Have you ever eaten ribs in the cars? Just left.

[Chris Cody]

Have you done it all in the car?

[Stugats]

Have you done it all in the car as well? Zaslo will not eat finger food. He will not eat something like ribs, even though ribs are universal.

[Jessica]

You think he's too good for finger food?

[Stugats]

He is. He does. He does think he's too good for finger food. We're going to go to him in a second in the eating area because we've got a new sponsor, a great new sponsor, White Castle. And he's going to give us a take sliding it a microwave to take. He's got the microphone. Does the microphone already work? He's just gotten into position. You can explain to just yourself says if the microphone works why it is you won't eat anything with your hands. You've never had ribs, correct?

[Zaslow]

By the. I mean, I had them, but it got to a point when I was younger where this is not worth the trouble. I don't like eating food that makes me super messy. All right? You get it all over your hands. It's all over my face. I look like an idiot. So to me, I'm not trying to take a bath after I have dinner, all right? So, no, I don't do ribs. It doesn't taste good enough to me to go through trouble. Sorry, sorry, not sorry.

[Stugats]

Jessica, you got any thoughts on that? As a prolific ribs eater?

[Jessica]

You don't eat wings.

[Zaslow]

Wings I have softened up to. I've started eating wings again. Wings I think are light years better than ribs.

[Jessica]

There's a nerd with his silverware.

[Dave Dameshek]

Whatever your taste better or you mean mess factor? Ribs. Wings are very, very good.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, both.

[Dave Dameshek]

But barbecue ribs are the number one.

[Zaslow]

Not for me, player.

[Dave Dameshek]

To be put down by the man of capital punishment. Your final meal should be ribs.

[Chris Cody]

Way worse than wings.

[Stugats]

Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Wings or ribs? Just go ahead and pick again. I will tell you. Mike Kolik Jr. The echoes. She does a weekly Notre Dame podcast. Always nice to see you, Jess. Thank you for being on with us. Appreciate it. She said a bunch of words, but.

[Chris Cody]

I think she said, we'll talk about heated rivalry next week.

[Stugats]

Okay.

[Chris Cody]

That right.

[Stugats]

It's. I don't. I couldn't read her lips because it was quiet. I've been remiss in not promoting a couple of things that Greg Cody is involved in. First of all, there's the Greg Cody podcast featuring Greg Cody Cody show with.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Stugats]

The Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody is a podcast. Where are you right now on catchphrases? You're doing your top 50 catchphrases of all time. Chris Cody apologized earlier in the. Earlier, Please. Yeah. No, no. Do that seven or eight more times.

[Greg Cody]

Asma.

[Chris Cody]

When you're doing a bit. 25 weeks in a row, unveiling two sayings every week, I'm just. They can't all be winners. And this was the first week for me. It's the third week doing it the first time where I was like, okay, not as great as the.

[Stugats]

They can all be winners. Choose only winners.

[Chris Cody]

He won't let me have a say.

[Stugats]

You don't have to do top 50 catchphrases when your dad doesn't have 50 catchphrases.

[Greg Cody]

These were numbers 46 and 45. I invite people to listen to the podcast, give one. I forget what they were. To be honest.

[Chris Cody]

That is insane.

[Dave Dameshek]

Is they all can't be winners. One of them.

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Stugats]

So you don't know you want to promote.

[Greg Cody]

I literally don't remember.

[Stugats]

Great.

[Chris Cody]

So also insane Greg's defense. His mind is fuller than. So I was right. They were good.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you. Was that one of them or was.

[Stugats]

That the one that was number five? Greg, how do you. How do you have no recollection of the things you're doing on your expect.

[Greg Cody]

I didn't expect to be asked. Do you remember every single little thing you say?

[Stugats]

No, but you tell me every week. Don't forget to promote my podcast.

[Zaslow]

Every.

[Greg Cody]

Every week. You're like, no. The weeks you don't do it, I don't say a word. That mum's the word.

[Stugats]

That is in no way true. Mum is not the word. Yeah, mom, that's not in any way true.

[Greg Cody]

That's what my mom told me. Christopher, do you remember the names? The.

[Chris Cody]

I at least admitted that I didn't like Great promotion.

[Stugats]

Like the way that listen to it.

[Greg Cody]

Together to figure out what they were.

[Stugats]

What are you doing with Ron McGill this weekend?

[Greg Cody]

Ron and I are doing a book thing at the Miami Dade Public Library, Main Branc on Flagler. Those of you from South Florida who want to come say hello to Ron and I and get a signed copy of the book, feel free. I believe it starts at 1:30pm at the library. So we'll see you there Saturday.

[Stugats]

Put it on the poll at Le Batard show. Are you surprised that there are still libraries? Let's go out to Zaslow here, Chris, Cody, and a new sponsor that we're excited about. Who doesn't love white cats?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, my God, Dan. I had two yesterday. I mean, this. If you talk about a sponsor, it just brings me back White Castle. And we're doing BET The Castle, which is presented by White Castle. Hunger says eat. Cravings say eat this. And with White Castle, 100 beef grilled onions, melty cheese, and steamy buns that hold it all together. How can you not crack? Crave thy castle. Zazlow, what do you got?

[Zaslow]

I got White Castle right here. I'm gonna make it. Looks like the flavor I got is cheddar bacon cheese. But let me also tell you guys, I'm gonna do this in 60 seconds here, all right? But let me also tell you, you. I got some action tonight, all right? You know about that action, guys?

[Chris Cody]

I know about that.

[Zaslow]

Let me tell you about that action tonight. I like the Brooklyn Nets. Why do I like the Brooklyn Nets tonight? Because they're playing the New York Knicks, all right? And the New York Knicks right now are a total disaster. They've lost nine of their last 11 games, and the Nets are getting 11 1/2 points. I think. I think Mike Brown for the Knicks could be on the verge maybe. Maybe losing the team, guys. And if they lose at home at the Garden to the stupid Nets. Oh, boy. I mean, at New York media. I don't know if you know about the media there, Dan. You know about that media. They're a little bit tough. All right, so I like the Brooklyn Nets. Tonight. I'm gonna roll with them. Plus eleven and a half, because the Knicks are a disaster.

[Chris Cody]

Rare time where a coach gets fired in Thibodeau and then they bring in a new coach, and before, even halfway through the year, he's lost the team. It seemed like a thing they were doing for the players. It's weird, Zaz.

[Greg Cody]

Yep.

[Zaslow]

Absolutely. And apparently, I don't know if you saw a few days ago, like, that game against the Warriors, a game that the warriors beat the Knicks. You know, Draymond Green, Remember he called call Anthony Town soft for missing a game for a funeral. And then he committed a flagrant foul on him in that game. Very dirty. And Mike Brown is hugging and kissing Draymond, not just during the game, but also after the game. Bad luck time.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, I want that burger. Did you put two in there? Because I want one.

[Stugats]

Hold on, though. I'm a little worried about this. Zazzle. Please be careful, because that's a small burger. You put a small, nice, delicious White Castle burger in there, and I think a minute is a little too long in terms of the amount. Perfect.

[Zaslow]

We go learn.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, that looks so good.

[Zaslow]

Oh, I got.

[Dave Dameshek]

White.

[Chris Cody]

Go.

[Stugats]

Perfect.

[Chris Cody]

God, do I Love White Castle.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

60 seconds. Just right.

[Chris Cody]

You put a little thing of ketchup on the.

[Zaslow]

Really good.

[Chris Cody]

I'm dipping every bite.

[Zaslow]

Doesn't even need it. Totally flavorful without anything added on.

[Dave Dameshek]

Pros.

[Chris Cody]

Pro move with the White Castle. You don't have to put the. The condiments on it. You eat it as is.

[Lucy]

Yep.

[Chris Cody]

Dip. It's a dipping.

[Greg Cody]

Excellent.

[Stugats]

Oh, excellent.

[Chris Cody]

Give me one of those right now.

[Stugats]

Zazzle, what else will you not eat with your hands? You're an unusual eater. There are any number of things you've said on the show. You have not or would never eat olives or one of them. Right. You've never.

[Zaslow]

I've never even had an olive, but I. I could tell, Dan, when I look at a food, even if I've never had it before, I could tell if I like it it. And I don't like olives.

[Chris Cody]

That is some crazy.

[Stugats]

What Else. Do you have any other peculiarities when it comes to things that you simply will not eat?

[Zaslow]

Yeah, I mean they're like certain. They're like certain beverages that I've never even had. I've never had root beer. I have no idea what it tastes like.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, it's so good. You're missing out.

[Lucy]

It's not that good.

[Zaslow]

I know, I know.

[Chris Cody]

Should have him on mystery crate to try root beer.

[Stugats]

Put it on the pole. Have you ever had Dr. Pepper?

[Miller Lite Announcer]

Nope.

[Dan Le Batard]

Never.

[Lucy]

What? There's 23 flavors.

[Zaslow]

No idea what it tastes like. I don't know. Whatever.

[Stugats]

Okay.

[Zaslow]

Living my life.

[Stugats]

You don't feel like you're missing anything.

[Chris Cody]

How's that White Castle though? Man, that looks good. Doesn't look good.

[Greg Cody]

Sure does.

[Stugats]

Ebitardshow, please. Do you trust anyone who has never had root beer, olives or ribs?

[Greg Cody]

Yes. No, I don't.

[Stugats]

You can't trust that person. No. These are normal things to eat and you can't decide. You can't be so close minded that you can decide before eating olives that you'll never like olives.

[Dave Dameshek]

I ate my first olives olive about a decade or so ago because growing up, every olive I ever saw was one of the green kind with the red thing and I thought that looked unnatural and unseemly. It wouldn't pass my lips. I've learned as a grown up to enjoy the olive. However, I remain resentful of the fact that after you eat it, you have to spit. That's gross.

[Lucy]

Jeremy has root beer on him.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah, I do. To spit out the pit, I drink.

[Chris Cody]

A w0 sugar root beer.

[Zaslow]

Like it.

[Chris Cody]

Get that?

[Dave Dameshek]

0 sugar.

[Chris Cody]

It is a. Like a fiend. And even for that matter, in my publix, there's clearly one other.

[Dave Dameshek]

Aw.

[Chris Cody]

Zero sugar root beer person because sometimes I go there totally sold out of all of it. Or it's totally full. Which means me and one other person in my publix are the only two people that drink it. That's what it has to be. But I have it with me right now. Zaz, if you want to try.

[Stugats]

Zero sugar is not where he start. He shouldn't start with zero sugar.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

It's, it's.

[Chris Cody]

It is just as sweet and delicious as any other root beer. You guys are clearly not root beer connoisseurs. You don't understand stand. I'm drinking this on the daily.

[Jessica]

Sometimes multiple root beer food is like.

[Lucy]

A thing you can only have like once a year.

[Chris Cody]

That's crazy.

[Lucy]

Like I feel like root beer is like here at the fair or something.

[Chris Cody]

How about this? My favorite candy.

[Lucy]

Root beer.

[Chris Cody]

Jelly beans.

[Lucy]

Like a diner or something. You get a root beer. But I don't think root beer is something that like.

[Dave Dameshek]

Is it crazy, right, Lucy?

[Lucy]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Root beer float.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like root beer.

[Lucy]

Yeah. I like associate it with a float so it feels like a. Like a special occasion. But I don't like it. So I'm not gonna have it. Uncultured, but it doesn't feel like a daily thing.

[Stugats]

Thing.

[Zaslow]

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[Lucy]

He seems like a not nice guy and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him and I hope he has the day he deserves.

[Greg Cody]

Oh.

[Stugats]

Stugats. I hope he has the day he deserves.

[Lucy]

That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go f yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve.

[Stugats]

It's a great, kind insult.

[Jessica]

Yes, it's beautiful.

[Stugats]

It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out. That's a less southern.

[Jessica]

Bless your heart.

[Zaslow]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Stugats]

Put it on the poll, please. Ebitard Show. Does root beer have anything to do with whether you're cultured or not? And also I think you've got this wrong, Jeremy, because I think I could say this as an absolute without any diluters. None of the no sugar stuff tastes as good as the stuff with sugar. Like none of it.

[Chris Cody]

Like every time you had a zero sugar.

[Dave Dameshek]

I think that's crazy.

[Chris Cody]

It took zero is just as delicious. It's just a different type of flavor. You just like it, right? Exactly. You just said it. It's a different flavor, but you enj just as sweet. It's delicious. And, and, and if you try a root beer and a root beer with.

[Zaslow]

Zero sugar, if you're missing out best they would come out the gate with this is a new.

[Chris Cody]

This is a new time.

[Zaslow]

A new age in America drink is invented. The o the OG flavor is always the best. That's why I only eat the original.

[Chris Cody]

That's like saying a rotary phone is.

[Zaslow]

Better than the original Pop tart with no icing. None of that bs. And it's just the strawberry flavor. That's the only pop tart I eat. That's the best one.

[Chris Cody]

We're supposed to double down.

[Dave Dameshek]

I'm Zaz and I once again in the same garage with our cars. I don't know what the Dr. Pepper is a flavor. Cherry vanilla Dr. Pepper. What the hell are we doing? I thought you were already a made up flavor.

[Greg Cody]

Dr. Pepper.

[Stugats]

I don't believe that Jeremy has had a take that is more wrong, more obviously wrong than stuff without sugar tastes just as good as stuff. Stuff with sugar.

[Greg Cody]

No, I think Jeremy's right in this case. I'll give you a quick example. Diet Coke.

[Lucy]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

Much better than Coke.

[Lucy]

No, that's so true.

[Greg Cody]

Unequivocal.

[Lucy]

Diet Coke.

[Chris Cody]

I know these are popular things.

[Lucy]

We are the same. But what I will say is Diet Coke and Coke don't taste the same. They taste different. It's a different flavor. My issue is, I get it. We want to be healthier as. As a society. I think that's awesome. But quit trying to tell me it tastes as good. Like, just say it's a little bit grosser. Say, hey, this is sugar free. It's not gonna taste as good. Don't tell me. Oh, it's exactly.

[Zaslow]

Don't bring it to me.

[Lucy]

It's not. It is not the same. But Diet Coke is significantly better than Coke. It's a totally different flavor than regular Coke.

[Stugats]

I can understand if you arrive at the opinion that you love the flavor of Diet Coke more than anything in the whole world. The only way that you can arrive at that opinion is if you haven't tasted.

[Greg Cody]

No, I switched. I tasted both.

[Lucy]

I switched. I was a Coke person. And then one day I woke up and said, hmm, I think a Diet Coke sounds nice. And my life has literally never been the same. I reach for that fridge cigarette every day.

[Stugats]

Chris Cody just whispered to me, agree to disagree, and I will not. I will not agree to disagree. I hate agreeing to disagree. No, but I.

[Chris Cody]

It doesn't seem like we're gonna get anywhere.

[Stugats]

It just seems like I'm arguing the most obvious thing. The people who invented Diet Coke would not argue that Diet Coke tast better than Coke. And nobody listening to this who craves or likes sugar is going to tell you that sugar list things taste as good. Sugarless gum is a failure. Anything that is less sugar is less. It tastes less sweet. And Diet Coke, if you've had coke, tastes like a diluted, muddied version of Coke, where I'm reminded with the aftertaste, oh, this is a pale facsimile that I'm having only because it's ostensibly healthier.

[Dave Dameshek]

You're dancing for man when you start talking about Diet Coke being better than sugared Coke. What the hell is this conversation?

[Stugats]

Put it on the poll, please. At Lebiton show. Are you dancing for the man if you think that Diet Coke is better tasting than Coke. Lucy's disgusted with us right now.

[Lucy]

Dan, when you refer to the people who invented Diet Coke, you need to call them by their proper name, which are heroes. They have changed my life. Diet. I'm not saying that Diet Coke. Diet Coke is better than Coke, but I don't think it's a substitute for Coke. I think Coke Zero is a substitute for Coke. But Diet Coke and regular Coke have very different flavors. And do not even get me started. When I go to a restaurant and I say, hey, I'll have a Diet Coke, and this is Diet Pepsi. Okay?

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Lucy]

No, bring me a water.

[Dave Dameshek]

Shampoo is soap, and soap is shampoo. And the shampoo maker said, look, all the dupes of society are buying this liquid soap and rubbing it in their hair. Maybe we can double down on it and create another thing for them to rub into their hair. And we'll call it conditioner. And now we have conditioner, and everybody caught on after a decade or three, that conditioner is unnecessary. And then all the conditioner makers said, we have warehouses overflowing with this crap. What are we gonna do with it? We can't pawn it off on the dupes anymore. Oh, I know what we'll do. We'll make shampoo and conditioner combo in. In the same container. So you have no choice in the map. And now everybody just keeps rubbing the shampoo and conditioner into their hair, never even considering that this is all the man having his way with you. Once again, fat and double fat.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

He really looked like a Muppet there.

[Stugats]

I liked. After the show yesterday, I saw people trying to create a physical Muppet character of Dave Dimashek. I need to attack some of these things one at a time here, okay? Because the root beer conversation. Conversation is an interesting one. You either like there are two kinds of people in the world. People who like the flavor of root beer, love the flavor of root beer, and people who will not have root beer. I don't have once a year root beer. You either like that flavor or you don't like that flavor. But I legitimately have not heard it argued, okay. Because I know that Chris Cody has a problem with his dad. His dad historically either has beer or Diet Coke for as long as I've known him. Doesn't drink water. It's just beer or Diet Coke. Coke will not consume water.

[Chris Cody]

Gone more towards coffee and beer.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

He's.

[Chris Cody]

He's eliminated the Diet Cokes a little, but it's those three coffee Diet Coke.

[Stugats]

I've literally never heard anyone make the argument that sugar free stuff in any realm tastes even like stuff with sugar, never mind liking it better. I thought it was as close as you could come to consensus that people would tell you that if something is sugarless, the reason you're doing that is not because it tastes bad, better, it's because you're trying to be healthier. It's never because it tastes better.

[Greg Cody]

No. No. First of all, nobody who ever has known me well has accused me of trying to be healthier. So that's not it.

[Chris Cody]

I tell him to drink more water, and he says there's water in coffee and.

[Greg Cody]

And in beer. Beer is mostly water. That's why I drink a lot of it. I got to get my water. No, Diet Coke tastes better. You know, when I taste a regular Coke, which I do occasionally if I have to. Regular Coke tastes thick. It's syrupy. It leaves an aftertaste. It's just awful. I don't care about the calories. I'll drink a can full of 110 calories. I don't like the flavor and the thickness and the sweetness. Sugar is overrated. If I drink a coffee, I like it very lightly sweetened. If you put four or five sugars in this coffee, I can't drink It. I'll pour it right out because it's too sweet. Sweet. Too sweet is better than not sweet enough. Take it to the bank.

[Zaslow]

I don't think I've ever had Diet Coke before.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, my God.

[Zaslow]

You're missing, like, I don't drink soda, so I don't think I've ever had.

[Chris Cody]

To me, it tastes like flat Coca Cola.

[Lucy]

No, no, no.

[Stugats]

You're crazy.

[Lucy]

It's like a totally separate flavor. Have you guys tried, like, the healthy sodas, like the Ollie Pops and Poppies? No, they're very popular with, like, the Gen Z girlies.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Weird.

[Lucy]

Some of them are really good, and they have a ton of fiber in them. Some of them taste like the worst thing I've ever had in my entire life. Like, they taste like cough medicine, but it's actually a pretty good alternative.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

Fiber.

[Greg Cody]

Fiber in their drink.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Lucy]

There's a lot of fiber in some of these drinks, so. Yeah. They help you go to the bathroom.

[Jessica]

If you need it.

[Lucy]

You're welcome. Folks.

[Chris Cody]

All I'm saying about the root beer Zero sugar is of the Zero sugar sodas, it's the one that tastes the closest to the original.

[Dave Dameshek]

Here you are.

[Chris Cody]

Coke Zero trying to be a replacement for Coke is different than Diet Coke. Diet Coke its own flavor. Coke Zero an alternative flavor for your Coke when you're trying to be healthier, like Dan is saying, said, but it's not quite the same flavor. With root beer, you go root beer sugar the closest you get to root beer. And I'm status as a root beer connoisseur.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

Can we make you look up something? I have no idea what A and W stands for.

[Lucy]

It's like a name.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

Yeah. It's got to stand for something, right?

[Stugats]

It has to initial.

[Lucy]

They have a W restaurants.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

What does A stand for?

[Greg Cody]

And it's always. An ampersand is never the word. And.

[Dave Dameshek]

And we all know Arby's is rb. Right? Roast beef.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

What?

[Zaslow]

Really?

[Lucy]

Shut up. Are you just blew up?

[Stugats]

Are you fibbing? What?

[Lucy]

Are you telling the truth?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, no, it's true.

[Dave Dameshek]

I am. And also the baseball glove on the brewer's hat is an M and a B. Milwaukee.

[Zaslow]

Everyone knows that one.

[Chris Cody]

I knew.

[Dave Dameshek]

Not everybody knows that.

[Stugats]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Did you know that RB's was the initials for roast beef? Because I did not know that. And I is aw. The most popular of the root beers. Is that the thing that you associate.

[Chris Cody]

It's the Cadillac.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. They. They own the. The name.

[Chris Cody]

It's A and W. But there's also Barq's and there's Mug. Now to me, barks and A and W. They stand above mug for sure. But you really. It kind of depends on which place you go. Honestly. Barq's ends up there more often because I believe it's a subsidiary of the Coca Cola products, which is why you end up getting Barq's in restaurants more often. I' where A and W stands.

[Greg Cody]

I have the answer right here. I just looked up A and W stands for its founders, Roy Allen and Frank Wright, 1922.

[Stugats]

Thank you. Put it on the poll, please. As well. Is conditioner a grift that dupes idiots brought to you by Big Soap.

[Lucy]

No. Conditioner serves a purpose. So smooth after shampoo is to clean. And you can do different types of shampoo. You can do clarifying or dandruff or whatever you're looking for for your hair. Hair conditioner is to help put the moisture back in because you just washed all the oil out of your hair. Conditioner is how I have this beautiful thick hair.

[Greg Cody]

Dude, it's all a scam. Most of what Dave said was absolutely correct. And I would add one more layer.

[Dave Dameshek]

To national champion Dave.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, sorry. I would add one more layer to that, which is. Don't call soap body wash. It's soap. I don't care if it's in a container and I'm squirting it, it's soap. It's not body wash. That's a made up phrase that just means soap. And it's supposed to sound fancier and more upscale than soap dupes. Like you said, liquid soap.

[Lucy]

What about shower gel? How do you feel about that?

[Greg Cody]

It's the same. It's the same scam. Soap.

[Dave Dameshek]

Soap.

[Greg Cody]

You have a bar of soap, you put it under your armpit, you move on. That's it.

[Dave Dameshek]

Bb make room in the garage. Zaz, we got a third car pulling in.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

Let's go.

[Stugats]

Did you just say be soap Soap. Be soap.

[Greg Cody]

Be soap. It's one of the classic. It's perfect. Soap is soap. Be you.

[Zaslow]

I'm more focused on the put it under your armpits and move on. Is that all we're doing with the bars?

[Stugats]

Cody's famously do not wash their legs. Chris Cody. What?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

He takes a bath in the pool.

[Chris Cody]

This guy.

[Dave Dameshek]

That's crazy.

[Lucy]

Really gross.

[Stugats]

Greg Cody washes his hair in the pool. That's why he looks every other person.

[Lucy]

Every other person.

[Greg Cody]

I don't only wash under my armpits.

[Chris Cody]

You know, the soap falls down and.

[Stugats]

Goes over your legs.

[Greg Cody]

Yes. Thank you. When's the last time you had dirty knee? What do you bent on your knees in the garden doing work? I mean, nobody has dirt on their knees. My. You know, unless you're bending over doing labor in the. In the garden, playing soccer.

[Chris Cody]

Your granddaughter.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but there you go. You watch the knee. But if the knees don't wash using, I look at my legs. If my legs aren't.

[Chris Cody]

The knees don't wash using.

[Miller Lite Announcer]

He's screwed up. He's fine.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you. If I look at my leg and it's dirty, I wash it. If there's no visible dirt, it's unnecessary to wash your leg.

[Stugats]

Chris Cody is famously bad at hygiene. He learned it from his father.

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